game was made by over 100 people
yikes, our narrative has been broken
game was made by over 100 people
yikes, our narrative has been broken
Damn
The brony OP has turned on his game already, damn.
dev team is 32 people and a dog
the rest are people they contracted (voice actors, translators, QA testing companies...etc) and they did not outsource development like other studios do.
to me those don't count as "making" the game, when a movie is made and they need to translate it to 12 languages, i don't consider the localization agencies doing that job count as a "making" the movie.
"Nuh-uh, wasn't made by 30 people"
[clicks on the article]
"Akshually, it was made by 34 people. And there were many othe people involved, like musicians in the orchestra and voice actors for various languages. These are also people. I am very smart. Checkmate atheists"
You cannot hate gaming journalists enough.
Count them when talking about AAA game dev size
Ignore them when talking about indie game dev size
It was made by 1 dude Im sure of it
Core devs are 30 people, if they can make this with 30 full time employees why do teams with 1000+ full time employees make such shit. Your average Anon Babble retard will argue niggers and fags are to blame but the truth is that too many cooks in the kitchen means there’s no clear vision. You get a mess. Only studio I’ve seen manage to make a title with a huge employee count and not have it be an utter disaster is R* and they only make a game every like 7 years now
i never talked about AAA devs, you are assuming my opinion on other things.
it's just that this one is odd to me, because while voice actors, translators or QA testers are essential, i don't believe they count as the ones "making" the game, the same way i don't think actors make the movies, they play a role (literally) but they don't make them unless they are more involved in the creative process.
Why does this article exist other than to cope in defense for bloated AAA companies
Omeletted Du Gommage
Pretty racists of them
Firstly, there's the eight-person Korean 'gameplay animation' team. If you've played any of Clair Obscur, you'll know how vital animations are to its combat. Monsters feint and twirl in battle, pulling off elaborate combos that you'll need to parry and dodge. While we don't know specifically what 'gameplay animation' refers to, the only comparable discipline in-house on Sandfall's side is 'cinematic and performance capture'. So, I'm left to conclude that this Korean team are effectively responsible for a large part of why combat is fun in the first place, and a fair chunk of the game's personality besides.
To those eight animators, add the dozens on dozens of people that worked on localisation, QA, and voice production work. And then there are the 30-plus musicians that worked on the soundtrack, including a nine person choir. As far as the in-house Sandfall credits for music go, only lead composer Lorien Testard, three vocalists, and the audio and music lead designer are listed. Again: I'm absolutely not suggesting Sandfall or anyone else is telling porkies or burying talent here. I only bring this up to say that, even just accounting for the music that's so vital to Clair Obscur's essence as a work, we can effectively double that '30 people' narrative.
fair about the animators, but the others don't count
Counting localizer subhumans as being part of the dev team
Total journo death
so the game had 38 devs
While we don't know specifically what 'gameplay animation' refers to, the only comparable discipline in-house on Sandfall's side is 'cinematic and performance capture'. So, I'm left to conclude that this Korean team are effectively responsible for a large part of why combat is fun in the first place,
What? While animations are great for the aesthetic this game has. The fun in the game comes down to the people designing the mechanics. The guys who handle the combat logic likely had to tweak all the animations to fit things like timing and readability so that it could feel good
Keep in mind that the part that the korean team played for the animation is unknown, so they might've just done some polish work for all we know. I'll still give them and them only the benefit of the doubt, since they do have some skilled high end animators over there desu.
Sounds like that journo has a promising career at Snopes ahead of them
technically the game was made by THOUSANDS of people. unreal engine is open source. lots of people contribute to the code that they use. a lot of the world streaming shit in unreal engine 5 is actually code from cdprojekt they upstreamed from witcher 4.
Read on reddit the 30 french people were actually slave drivers and forced 70 american poccymons to make the game for them. Literally shaking right now
So now that this game is finally getting mainstream media attention is Anon Babble finally going to start hating it?
the SECOND this game outdid Rebirth the campaign to undermine its success in every possible way begins
Subtle
Actually did they account for the people who invented the semiconductor, without them, this game wouldn’t be possible. I don’t see them in the credits.
unreal engine does credit amd and nvidia and intel other IHVs
So what did they not include the indians that did QA for them in the credits?
They want to convince people that hiring 1000 blacks and troons is necessary actually
Literally every thread about this game immediately devolves into how woke and trash it is lmao.
We need IDs because it's most definitely like 2 or 3 people replying to themselves endlessly to stir more people mup
new retard contrarian script has been downloaded after "woke" and "not a jrpg" failed
game was made by over 100 people
Frogs have learned how to lie like chinks. kek
You helped beta-test Bethesda games by buying them early, this means you count as making the game.
They should also account for all the people responsible for producing the food needed by the huge team baka.
So they didn't give credit to the muslim janitor of the office building they rent space in?
It's honestly impressive how game journos run to the defense of big gaming studios when a game by a smaller studio is doing well, claiming that quality like this just isn't feasible in quadruple A games, and that we should keep buying those instead.
frenchoids are the weakest race of europe.Full of thieves
There was a massive schizo who kept posting about this game being a kike psyop over a year ago. I have no doubt him and a couple other faggots are spamming all this artificial hate.
vidyagame players...we lose
back to fifa slop
Go crying
that's how fake indie work, they advertise smal studios but they just pay for hundreds of pags and pajeets to do the actual coding and assets.
actually made by 38 people counting the Koreans
every other person is a voice actor, musician, QA, or a l*calizer
they're really reaching to find something to tear the game down huh
Except it was. Nobody counts the people who don't code, write the story, or compose music.
QA is not a developer. The Voice actor is not a developer. The Marketing team is not a developer.
I don't think I've ever seen real game journalism before. Good job, Rock Paper Shotgun.
Every single photo I've seen of this studio has been of 90% white and 10% conventionally attractive females of the has womb, lacks Y chromosome variety.
That's what they're actually mad about, isn't it?
Must be a slow new day where you have to make an "ackthually" article over a successful game.
what is this smear campaign and who is behind it, tendies and Squareenix?
Yes. It directly refutes the tenants of globohomo with its mere quality.
In brief: Sandfall themselves are, indeed, around 30 people. I counted maybe 34 but there's a few people pulling dual roles across writing, quest design, and so on. The story starts to look a bit different, however, once the bulk of the credits begin to roll.
And then there are the 30-plus musicians that worked on the soundtrack, including a nine person choir.
Strange. Why would the marketing dept choose to advertise themselves as starving tranny artists? Undertale sales aren't good if you have orchestra bills to pay.
Made by white men and attractive white women with wombs. This is why
The 8 Koreans are included in the 38 number, why are some Anon Babbletards absolutely hellbent on hating a small team with a passion? No forced politics, soul and 45 dollars, how are those not things to promote?
he thinks it's expensive to hire musicians
lel
30 core devs
several contractors
Why is this a bad thing if the product is good and the core team stays intact?
because the faggots who keep screeching "smorru daberu ay indie comupanee onry 4.25 emproyees" are annoying and need to be put down.
the game is shit you dumb nigger
it was made by 34 people
They really should have fired someone because Expedition 33 made by 33 people would be peak
Too many cooks. The more hands that touch something the harder it is to maintain a cohesive vision. Studios firing half of their staff is only going to be a good thing for the industry.
true, fuck anon for making shit games
Rebirth schizos are trying to shit on this game any way they can now
The credits are only 8 mins long which is a refreshing change of pace compared to other Westoid devs who rely on outsourcing.
Funny that you mentioned outsourcing when Elden Ring devs do the exact same shit.
I specifically said western devs. Capcom use outsourcing all the time, it just never makes their credits over 50 minutes.
The Korean bros and the composer can get on the squad.
The rest can fuck off.
I really really really like this post. It's such a funny reply, it gets better the more I read it. From the callous dismissal to the brutal ad hominem, I'd actually say it's a completely perfect post - no extra filler, not lacking anything. I myself was tempted to reply "the game is shit" but I hadn't considered the vital second half of your post that increases the emphasis and in fact makes anyone who disagrees look like a fool.
How do I upvote on this site? Thought I should check it out since it just came back from the hack. Or did they never add that function? I haven't posted here since 2008.
You will never get IDs, shills and tranny jannies need the mystery to socially engineer.
A shame the site is dead. Anon Babble has 12,000 users at most and it's probably even lower now after the hack, that's not even counting how a majority of that traffic is bots, shills and thirdies.
kys larpfaggot
Man the thread IDs in 8ch absolutely proved how you can easily curb shitposting by implementing it
Shitposting is the culture by design though, as anonymity is the appeal of sites like Anon Babble. Just look at old ass Anon Babble threads where everyone pretends to be one dude named dave or jeff or whatever. There's a reason people say tripfag and namefag and not tripgod or namegod, and that's because on a board where you're supposed to be anonymous you're doing the dumb thing of making yourself recognizable.
No they don’t count in AAA either. What does is how many jeets you hire to make assets
Why is the number of developers being debated about anyway? Can't you just roll credits and count?
Journos and japaboos mad that a small team with no blacks has made the GOTY and that it has a better user score than their childhood tendie games.
profoundly retarded post
QA testers and orchestra members are now developers
Mainstream press is so fucking salty that their corporate overlords are only shitting out garbage.
But the journos and japaboos are right though. I just did exactly what I said of watching the credits and counting and I already hit 33 non repeated names not even 2 minutes into their 7 minute and 45 second credit roll.
localizers are now devs
Kill all video game journalists.
We need IDs because it's most definitely like 2 or 3 people replying to themselves endlessly to stir more people mup
Why are men like this
90%
Literally 100%.
10% conventionally attractive females
There's only 6 women in the entire team, and 2 of them look attractive.
Okay and how many of those were QA testers or marketing team members?
A choir member is not a developer, shitposter-kun.
Ajit and Kung-Ho Sun the QA monkeys count as developers
Stay mad. You're falling for a jewish pilpul
Everyone is attractive, no homosexuals, huge emphasis on family and a love for life, the only black person with voice lines dies 30 minutes into the game, several suicides shown and mentioned, "badass" women are shown as weaker as the men and need protection, strong cultural and national identity with zero modern messaging. Games like this and Black Myth Wukong are like pouring acid into a tranny's eyes.
It didn't even make it to the QA testers anon. I even extended the grace of not counting anyone labelled as an intern.
So you never beat the game nor bothered looking up the credits? Choir member isn't a thing within the first two minutes of the credit roll, shitposter-kun.
QA doesn't even get mentioned until after the 4 minute mark, retard.
The team is mostly ex-Ubisoft employees, wouldn't be surprised if Ubisoft is bankrolling a smear campaign against them to defend their bloated dev teams with their last few dollars before getting bought by Tencent for less than that.
strong cultural and national identity with zero modern messaging
This is the part that gets them the most, guaranteed. I've already seen people seethe about the fact that the game is not concerned in any way whatsoever with things outside of its own imaginative world, and that it remains french from beginning to end. Sure there's obvious JRPG influences everywhere, but it has such a strong cultural identity on its own. The characters, the story, the comedy, the music, it's all 100% french.
If it was made by a large dev team it still btfo other devs
Like why did it take this long to get a quality turn based rpg? We haven't gotten one since dragon quest or whatever
It's just jealous trannies, shitposters and journalists running damage control by claiming that the game was actually made by five billion people and it's only good because a brave black transgender womynx did everything and so on. See
White shirt in the front, the ginger in the middle-ish, black dress on the 2nd row and the homely grey tank on the left. I'd say 4/6.
Absolutely unheard of. And none of them look like dysgenic freaks.
Fagrock and international urinalist jewry will foam at the mouth.
It's now the best Global seller. They will have meltdowns with this game being a huge hit.
NOOOOOOOOOOO
403 people worked on it.
See for yourself, the entire list has been itemised.
For all you idiots moving the goal posts and claiming nonsense like "contractors don't count" then that means those 4000 dev ubisoft games like assassins creed etc were actually made by a small dedicated team of about 50 people then.
You've gotta be consistent if you're just making shit up and changing definitions willy nilly.
every single orchestra member is a developer now
There's a difference between outsourcing QA or localization and outsourcing 80% of the programming, bucko.
It was six million, you filthy antisemite!
An Indian made this post
Might as well count the dog as a developer. Emotional support and all that.
If it was made by a large dev team it still btfo other devs
This.
The stupid argument over how many devs it took to make this game is the most dumbass first world problem "there is no news today" nothingburger shit to happen. Ten devs, a hundred devs, it means fuck all. Game's good.
the only black person with voice lines dies 30 minutes into the game
I went into this game largely blind so I was positive that dude would be a party member, just based on the intro.
Then he got beach'd immediately lol
It could have been made by a thousand and it would still be a shitty glorified mobile game
Give false information are normal now ?
Ubisoft
Ah that's why...
That's normal for phycology warfare.
What does studying algae have to do with it, you retarded brown ESL vermin?
Who funded this game? Where does a small dev team get the millions to make their game?
Probably got bankrolled by the publisher.
legitimately, shills for the AAA development model that requires hundreds of people to churn out focus-tested crap
Probably got an early payment from Microsoft as part of their Game Pass deal
Also read they got a grant from Epic for using UE5
Kepler Interactive is a video game publisher founded in September 2021. Based in London and Singapore,
and Singapore
Kepler received $120 million in funding from Chinese gaming company NetEase, which became a minority shareholder.[1] >The studio's revenue reached $50 million in 2022, boosted by the release of Ebb Software's Scorn and Sloclap's Sifu.[5]
Now everything's beginning to make sense. The absurd reviews, the wall-to-wall shilling. This is a French game made using Chinese money.
Journos playing defense for bloated AAA games for their lefty activist friends on said bloated team. They know the feminists and troons would be the first cut from said bloated teams.
It doesn’t matter. This game looking as good as it does with a small team destroys Pokémon’s excuse for looking like shit.
Wait. So all profits will go to china?
Great now i will change from anti it to help shill it .
westoids make a good game
look closer
it's the chinese
kek
The publisher didn't produce the game, nor are they involved in developing it. Now keep seething, ex-Bioware employee.
Yep, the publisher Kepler Interactive only had one major investor: NetEase, the company the CCP uses to fund games.
en.wikipedia.org
They were also the ones behind David Cage's Quantic Dream shit (lmao) and a bunch of other stuff. Basically Chinese Activision.
minority shareholder for the publisher
this game is chinese!!
I remember now why I didn't miss Anon Babble that much.
Now post how many of the employees of the studio also work for the publisher. You won't.
Spot the paid shill.
the wall-to-wall shilling
Oh please, go fuck yourself. There has been nothing but word of mouth for this game, there are barely any ads anywhere, almost no sponsored streams, nothing. Pisses me off that we see success for a game like this and you retards cry foul. Yeah sure this super greedy chinese company sells the game for 50$, that totally makes sense.
you are not allowed to like this 50$ JRPG because chinese people paid the publisher for it!
I genuinely can't think of the furthest straw this schizo can go for next. He went through it all. Only thing left would be to claim that there's tons of trannies on the dev team or something.
we see success
How to spot a shill in five seconds or less.
There has been nothing but word of mouth for this game
It's literally you, me, and a paid marketer in this thread after 7 HOURS buddy. Your word of mouth doesn't exist.
Yey yes everyone is a shill.
Ah so you're just angry that people talk about video games, gotcha. I'll bet you're glad that you're not on 8kun anymore where you immediately got exposed because you didn't know about post IDs, huh?
how many people made AC:S?
whoever did the music for this game also worked for Amplitude, may as well be a sound track for endless legend and endless space playing (and that's a good thing)
I had a similar feeling but the dude has literally zero previous credentials. Which is of course something a chinese investor would do, hire a bunch of nobodies for their project of a completely new IP (the schizo unironically believes this).
No one counts those in AAA either, faggot. And there the base dev team is already a gazillion people too, so you don't even have a point.
Based chinese making better games than western AAA studios.
From now on I'm gonna post this pic in every single thread about this game for years to come thanks
This.
The OP article is just sour grapes from an AAA-adjacent journoscum.
it was made by 6000000000000 gazillion people
complain that a studio has Chinese investment
doesn't ask why western studios aren't investing in independent studios
Ironically the reason is that western corps like Microsoft or shits like Sony always try to get rid of your freedom if youre too successful. Chinks have a habit of just skimming off the top and let the studios do whatever as long as they're successful.
That's why youre seeing a lot of devs go for Chinese investment.
You all think its all some grand conspiracy but you don't actually pay attention to how the industry is moving.
journo mad that there was chinese funding for the publisher 4 years ago
It's Black Myth Wukong all over again, they absolutely dilate furiously whenever there is the possibility of a threat to the established western propaganda market lmao.
localizers
QA
Voice Actors
Musicians
These can all be important parts of the game production process, but none of these fuckers worked on the game itself. This is fucking retarded clickbait from a self-important cunt who deserves to bite the curb.
I honestly don't get why a game being funded with chinese money makes it unplayable for some people.
You can enjoy the game without endorsing the CCP. Most of the games coming out of western AAA studios these days are legitimate slop so more competitive is good in my opinion.
localizers
important parts of the game production process
Trannies foam at the mouth whenever something doesn't bend the knee to american cultural imperialism. They see a game like AssCreed: George Floyd Edition and say "uhm, why do you care??" while seething endlessly about i.e. Black Myth Wukong because the game has zero globohomo messaging.
not a single pajeet
not a single chink
not a single arab (and not a single hijabi to boot)
not a single nigger
not a single fatass
not a single strand of dyed hair
not a single facial piercing
not a single drop of visible tattoo ink
cute dog
INCROYABLE
MANIFIQUE
FRANCE I KNEEL
Okay but seriously why aren't western devs investing into studios at the same rate as the chinks?
Its only proving that the Chinks are practically saving the industry
If people who speak other languages can't understand the game, they won't play it. Translators are important, but they get put under the localizer umbrella.
no it's niggers like you defending shit games made by a hordes of niggers
I unironically can't wait for AI to take over this "important part", because so far every single one of them does a job so bad that it would get them fired outside of video games.
The frogs literally picked the guy up off of some forum
inverse.com
I'll support any studios that don't outsource large parts of their games to india, simple as
No argument here. Localizers can get fucked because there's nothing inherently valuable about their jobs that couldn't be replaced by a decent AI and an entry level editor to do basic revisions and clean ups in a week.
Ok, but what narrative was being put out there? Who was "owned" by this?
mgs and death stranding were made by over 1 people
holy shit bros I thought kojima is a genius
Running defense for their AAA publisher friends who insist you NEED hundreds of people and huge budgets to make a good game
And "good" isn't even guaranteed from AAA these days
And "good" isn't even guaranteed from AAA these days
I cannot remember the last time a AAA western game was actually good
Trannoid journalists who NEED you to believe that a game must be made by five billion pajeets or it cannot possibly be good.
Just found out some Indians worked on this game... Damn...
What did anon mean by this...
The defense is that the based French devs who made an amazing game with a fraction of the budget and team size of multi-billion dollar studios is actually just like those giant, bloated, slow, talentless studios and that they don't get to be praised for pulling off things that giant studios can't do with 1000 devs, 10 years, and half a billion dollars.
No other reason. You nailed it on the head.
Trannies foam at the mouth whenever something doesn't bend the knee to american cultural imperialism.
I think this is why there's any sort of dedicated effort to smear the game. It's not overtly virtue signalling in favor of any culture war politics, which is the same thing as openly telling a tranny "you will never be a woman" to his face, as far as they are concerned.
see That anon already put it best.
based
It didn't exist in the first place for anyone without a sub 100 IQ.
If you even look at the credits for any game like this it's well over 100 names every time. Dudes take years just to make a fucking pixel game.
Studios back then didn't credit QA testers and some even payed to keep them off the credits.
Some grouped them all up into a single department name without specific names.
Its only really recently that specific QA testers actually get named.
Only time AAA counts them is when they want to make the game sound bigger than what they are. So they're being just as dishonest but on thenother end of the spectrum
Fuck me, at this point you might aswell every digital storefront worker as part of the dev team
If the purge taught us anything, it's that a good 80% of shitposting comes FROM the staff working for Gookmoot on Anon Babble. We'll never get ID's cause they want this place to be shit
And who told the animators what to do and approved the end result?
Ermm...heh, Acktually if you count the independent orchestral members, the QA testers, and the janitor of the building...heh...weeelll...let's just say its quite a bit over 30 people than people are leading you to believe...
we want everyone on this ANONYMOUS imageboard to be identifiable
At that point you might as well just fuck off to reddit or resetera.
...You do know that post IDs are already a thing on several boards here, right? We're not talking about fucking usernames.
When you think about it, that's really impressive for a French company
Thread IDs don't stop people from being anonymous since they change from thread to thread you fucking retard. They work to prevent samefagging,spam, and shitposting.
Mentions ubisoft
Hello Raj, AC Shadows has already released. Your contract is over.
They work to prevent fun
Name me a dev in the industry that china hasn't fingered yet. I fucking dare you
When the site was down and most of us went to 8kun for the time (it's still the inferior imageboard, don't get me wrong) it was absolutely hilarious how many faggots didn't know about post IDs and blatantly samefagged, and none of it was "fun", it was all absolutely bottom-of-the-barrel garbage posting.
You realize soijak party exists for you already right?
and none of it was "fun"
That's what a no fun retard would say. Boards being spammed with the "niggers eating money" threads for days on end was one of the most hilarious things to happen in Anon Babble history.
I bet you thought Anon Babble being DOGE'd for April fools was shit.
Ok disingenuous newfag that doesn't understand ID's. Explain why other boards have them?
why are work journos so mad at non-woke games that succeed
japaboos
What is there to be mad about this game?
Anon Babble on the French any other day : I hope you get run over by a van, you cheese-eating surrender monkey! We saved your asses in WW2!
Anon Babble on the French when they release a game with a loli : UOOOOOOHHHH BASED BASED ToT BASED!
It really is just that simple, huh?
it's weird how much tertiary drama there is around dumbass social media bullshit and development teams
i don't even barely know what this game is an already you guys are crying about narratives and reposting journalist snips
i just dont get it
shouldn't the va's count?
dev team is ~40 people (and a dog) instead of 30
wow this really crushes the narrative huh
lolno when do they ever count?
Anon Babble iz le 1 persun xD
A-actually it wasn't made by 30 people! It was made by 38 and several contractor. Surely that makes it more acceptable compared to AAA studios with thousands of employees that can't make a game worth shit.
Gaming journalism is an embarrassment
Don't forget to count their neighbors, the corner store guy that sold them some energy drinks, the entire local post office who delivered their mail, the bank that handled their accounts, and the entire French government for keeping the water and electricity running.
He wasn't even an especially bad dude. All the more reason him getting shrek'd right away makes for a good shock.
Paid*
Wrong gotcha because ubi makes almost everything in house and that's why they have 20k employees
This is more true than people care to admit. Since Anon Babble is a cesspit of negativity and actual positive interactions don't work here actual unironic shills don't actually shill for games most of the time they just spend their time shitting on competitors. They're also the ones most guilty of accusing other people of being shills.
QA aren’t developers, would you call a food taster a chef?