I'm tired of safe mental illness

It was cool at the time but the hype around it ruins the entire gam., It's obvious that something will happen so it loses the charm.

i thought coffin was really good actually

bait

safe fuck yourself

why are you fags putting so much effort into making it sound even more forced?

You've already answered. Because they are fagotrons.

what's the unsafe ones?

download page, install and title screen all have content warnings

WOOOOAAAAAAAAAH THIS GAME ISN'T ACTUALLY AN ANIMU DATING SIM THAT'S CRAAAAAAZY

This was such blatant reaction-bait yet everyone and their favourite streamer fell for it.

It was cool at the time

Only for zoomers who had never seen that kind of "meta" twist done before in other media. It was just annoying watching everyone overreact.

I haven't played Milk outside of a bag of milk yet but it's on my 'log

Anyway I'm glad my favorite games aren't on the list. Although of course nothing is sacred on Anon Babble so they aren't safe from being in the second chart.

These are games trying to reach a wider audience. Wanting them to deal with more aggressive and crude things is the same as wanting Nintendo to make a game with sex or something...
You won't find anything like that loli kidnapping simulator that some autistic anon pedophile was making when it comes to mainstream products. The guy even created a simplified genetics system to define the appearance and physical characteristics of the babies you made by impregnating the lolis in your dungeon.

Manhunt 2

That guy who posted a webm on Anon Babble of himself cutting off his own penis with an electric drill cutter or whatever it was

YIIK
If anything it will make (you) mentally ill.

I played an h-game farm sim like that where you time travel to fuck your grandchildren

I saw that being posted once too but I doubt it's the same person posting as one in the video lol

Where does Silent Hill 2 fit?

Not fair to judge SH2 the same way as those games. Back when SH did it, it was a novel concept not seen in many games.

Well to be fair, someone had to record himself doing it and post it somewhere in order for it to get out, so who knows.

It's the Godfather of safe schizo
But actually also loops back to being real schizo and perhaps the most schizo

You want Walter Sullivan simulator or something?

manhunt with uncensored patch and that rape game that caused a bit of stir on steam

essential troonslop

I haven't played any of this shit. What the hell is safe mental illness?

People don't like when the characters are too unlikable, which ultimately is many mental illness. it's not something pretty and can turn people into awful/selfish persons. So they stay safer to not piss people too much, if they do, not many people will play the game or enjoy it, leading to bad reviews

The vaguely popular games OP has a schizo hateboner for today

I know this thread is probably super disingenuous, but I'm genuinely curious what games you class as "not safe mental illness".

The people who like 90% of the other stuff in that image hate Coffin with a passion.The only game there where the fanbases probably overlap is Miside.

safe mental illness

To be fair, anyone who isn't struggling to get over Oreimo being finished hates Coffin.

I like Coffin and Omori.

SH2 isn't really a schizophrenic episode, the monsters are all real and can kill you.
People get it wrong when they think that SH1 story is completely separated from SH2 story. If it wasn't for the actions of the cult in SH1, James would not have seen a single monster.

I liked psychopomp, haven't played omori or coffin but they seem like something I'd enjoy
no real interest in the rest

why'd you have to remind me that I actually watched that piece of shit

Class09 and miside are boring and mouthwashing is straight up trash. Doki doki is just shock value slop. Omori overdose and tcoaal are good tho. I'm surprised vallhalla is not on the list.

Laura doesn't see the monsters or the otherworld though. Do you think she would see James attacked from nowhere?

I mean Mouthwashing does in fact have a terrible person as the protagonist and it doesn't end in anything pretty

What the fuck? This would make an amazing video game. It would be both parts funny and sad. It would truly make a citizen ponder.

Yeah Yiik is good example

generational trauma

the victim becomes a narcissist imitating his father stuck in a loop of nostalgia while failing the transition to adulthood rather than a heckin wholesome sad boy

realistically, how do you handle a character who is too ill and genuinely a shit person without it being labeled as tryhard/edgy? A character HAS to have redeeming points for one to be enjoyed as the protagonist

Yiik is just autism simulator and it turns out 99.9% of people don't want to play as an autist, either because it's fucking infuriating or it hits too close to home.

realistically, how do you handle a character who is too ill and genuinely a shit person without it being labeled as tryhard/edgy? A character HAS to have redeeming points for one to be enjoyed as the protagonist

Disco Elysium sort of does this but also sort of sidesteps it by giving Harry amnesia and (you) enough roleplaying options to completely turn his life around if you want.

Ahem

What the hell does "safe mental illness" even mean?!?

I thought Yiik was fairly known but it has less than 900 reviews on steam, the hell

Your online experience is in a bubble of people hyper obsessed with it for several reasons

Majima is both fairly well handled and "wacky funny whoohoooo" depending on who is writing him and the context

pedophilia

I hate it when the big twist becomes the selling point and people play it just to see it already knowing what will happen.

Hilariously his Gaiden game shows that it isn't all just a show to get over his 0 era trauma, no even with amnesia he's still not all there

safe

depicts graphic suicide

it's definitely mental illness, that's for sure

I mean, even with amnesia, the body and the mind can keep some stuff, even if you don't remember it

White guy with tourette's.

"Pissing out the window and shitting out the window are two different things!"

Still one of my go to responses to stupid things

tfw psychological dating sim where you play a guy with tourette, but instead of being comedic it's extremely sad with you having to try your best to not have an outburst

What is unsafe mental illness?

A game about a guy like Terry would be something very sad
if movies and books could explore this, could a game can?

fail and have an outburst

have to button mash to control it like a reversed freak out from tony hawks underground

because rightoids force memes and ideas where they dont belong

Almost nobody has actually played Yiik it is legitimately a victim of circlejerk Youtube essays exploiting the fact it’s a game about the suffering of a basedboy

Honestly I might actually get it next sales, sure it's a weird game but it has some honesty behind it, the fact they didn't even gave up and actually updated the game with a lot of content, that' some dedication

Unironically because the yiik dev was right : "gamers" however then are to be defined, have pretty immature taste overall and do not want games with challenging narratives. The various meta actors involved in gaming be it journalists, critics, commentators or what have you, are hardly any better. They sure love to pretend they are much better but the fact that the still can't get over the catharsis debate every time a trigger-happy teenager does something dumb is all you need to know.
Gaming itself is evolving very quickly but the audience is not.
If you made a game about someone as uncomfortably unusual as Teddy, the players would say it's dumb, pretentious and makes no sense while every blogger and video essayist would say that "akshully this is not a valid depiction of mental health and its inherent problematics" . Remember, these people said Omori was bad because it implied depression is a mental ILLNESS and not something that just happens and that you shouldn't judge etc.

Well the dev didn't do himself or his game any favor by ranting about how he was misunderstood by a bunch of children who aren't ready to engage with ART. Because clearly, his writing could not be at fault.

it reminds me of a debate I once saw some people debating : can video games explore all themes like movies or books, or are they forced to be restricted due to the player involvement (unlike in other medias, YOU play the character) and still being considered games.
I honestly don't know the answer : both side had compelling points from what I remember

It's probably possible to engage with "themes" , it's just that because of interactivity, things have to be done differently and video games still need to figure out their stylistics and their grammar, for lack of a better term. The same thing happened with cinema : at its beginnings, there were serious questions as to whether or not a movie could have the sort of complexity as a novel or tackel the same themes.
Video games are still very young as a medium.

What about forced mentalslop? Soulless health?

"safe" mental illness vidya

made by women

"unsafe" mental illness vidya

made by men

Soulless health?

Hollow Knight. heh

DO YOU FEEL LIKE A WOJAK YET !?

It means OP needs to go back to twitter

they just want to self insert and receive some sort of victimhood validation

why is why it makes sense that all these devs who pretend to be women or call themselves women without proof. nobody wants to tell the world that they are a woman more than troons do, not even actual women.

actually we want to lmao at mental illness without feeling the disgust of seeing u in public

Wouldn't a person who suffers from heavy mental illness, if they self insert, deliberately make it a very bad experience instead of romanticizing it?

i'm 35
when i was in high school kids would fake this mental illness shit all the time to look cool or different, and that's exactly what this zoomer obsession with "schizo" shit is
actual schizophrenia isn't a meme about having two wolves inside of you it's in reality a living hell

desu the milk game handled it pretty well, it's really the fans of the game who does fan art and shit

dota 2

I think safe mental illness is similar to ones you see in popular movies like Forrest Gump, Rain Man, Hangover, and such where the mental illnesses are mild and usually ends up providing some benefit to themselves or others around them.

As RDJ said, you never go full retard.

Me and who? (Me on the left)

God, I fucking wish someone would finish Loli Rape Simulator. Playing as a depraved pesophile child rapist who goes around kidnapping, torturing, raping, and killing lolis and having to avoid capture is such a unique game concept. Only other game I can think of is I HAVE CANDY GET IN THE VAN.
It'd be really cool if we had more games that let you play completely irredeemable monsters that let you do way more than simply just go around committing mass murder.

ew a pedo

Garage is a good unsafe mental illness game

It's worth a conversation too on how many of these are actually romanticizing it, which is to say none of them, especially not Psychopomp, Omori, Mouthwashing, Andy & Leyley, Doki Doki or Class of '09 which all present the mentally ill people as rat-shit insane and Not A Role Model in their own ways. Espeically Mouthwashing and A&L.

I want to hug Milk-chan tight while kissing her and telling her how everything will be fine. Also why do big sweaters make girls so huggable?

Shutter Island pretty much has the character going insane, pissing everyone else by refusing the truth and deliberately giving themselves a lobotomy because it's too painful

Chaos;Head

The milk games are about that

I think the "romanticism" is usually not from the games themselves most of the time, it's the fans, and the fans view on things ends up influencing the discussions about the games.

Rebirth is the only game to do mental illness right and Nomura got a lot of shit for it
The world is not ready

Hit the nail on the head

youtube.com/watch?v=IyTMqFOP1cY

nta, but a game like that would be fun.

Yeah it strikes me as more complaining about the guro/blood yaoi shoujo fans than any actual romanticism on the games' parts, hell Andy & Leyley plays with incest a lot to show how broken the both of them are.

Of these games the only one I’ve played is Omori but what makes it “safe” is

the main character is still cute and loved by others

the trauma of the event is at a socially acceptable level rather than a thousand small cuts like in real life

can't a character be cute but also broken? It be like saying only fucked up looking people are fucked up inside

Come home, white man.

You could have just said "trannycore"

the ones you can't tell your university or job interviewer about for brownie points. the ones rich kids don't claim to have on tiktok

What games would you call "core" mental illness ?

hyperdemon

OP considers games with actual representation of mental illness where the protagonists do awful things due to their mental issues and hurt everyone arond them if not even bringing them down with them and aren't portrayed as good role models as "safe mental illness"

some anons in the thread list actual safe mental illness games(crazy protagonist is crazy cause he is so we can have justify crazy unhinged gameplay and situations, or antagonist is crazy so we can justify his horrible actions while the protagonist is actually mentally sane but is dragged down, or place the game takes place in is cursed so we can justify the protagonist going insane, etc) as NON safe mental illness ones

post yfw

safe mental illness

Incestual cannibals are safe? What the fuck?

actual video game

Omori is a JRPG.

isn't that the 2D fucked up demon death game from decades ago? how is this related to mental illness? it's just a fucked up game. Kinda wonder what happened to it's creator (if I'm thinking of the right game)

nah it makes for good videos games
source? store.steampowered.com/app/3272830/Choko_loco_2/

They sure love to pretend they are much better but the fact that the still can't get over the catharsis debate every time a trigger-happy teenager does something dumb is all you need to know.

Catharsis debate? What do you mean? Dopamine from playing a video game?

NTA, but it's not that
hyperdemon is just an extremely fast paced "layered/multi dimensional" first person shooter with hyper seizure inducing visuals, it literally has nothing to do with mental illness, webm related
video.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/store_trailers/256906712/movie480_vp9.webm
if anything, this is the demonstration of what the anon right after that post said: a lot of anons in this thread are giving examples of what they consider not safe mental illness, but they're all listing real safe mental illness games where the crazy/mentally ill part is either irrelevant or is only used as a justification for visuals, situations, and gameplay

incest is safe mental illness

I want more mental ill waifus

Safe means that it doesn't offend modern western sensibilities, and mental illness just means the game contains metal illness themes.

Yeah, time for proper mental illness.
Red Hood bros REPRESENT
DOG FUCKERS
CUM EATERS

Idk man, raping the only woman on board, repeatedly, cannibalizing upon the captain and killing everyone on board is pretty fucked. I do hate the tumblrnigger fans, though

Remember, these people said Omori was bad because it implied depression is a mental ILLNESS

Omori had ONE character with depression and it was because his fucking girlfriend committed suicide.
The overall themes and plot of Omori is more about getting over guilt and forgiving yourself
Sunny is more traumatized and emotionally suppressive than depressed, but nobody actually played the game and just looked at it and assumed "Oh it's a quirky earthbound game about depression.".
Omori is closer to End Roll.

If I want homeless nigger simulator, I'll just go to fucking Jones St in San Francisco.

They can be sure but it’s safe to do it that way because cute people (especially girls) are inherently more sympathetic, and trauma linked to a life changing is more socially acceptable than depression arising out of a pattern of life experiences is what I’m trying to say

can't a character be cute but also broken?

God I can't wait for Am I Nima.

"Safe mental illness" are games done by self diagnosed retards. In 2014 they'd be roaming Tumblr with their self diagnosis but Tumblr fell off so instead they're advertising their shit everywhere else.

There's nothing to them. They are games made by the common retard, larping and wanting to have some mental illness to feel unique and special but they only larp as far as it's socially acceptable amongst retards.

Oh right, I must have confused with another weird game with a similar name

Im hijacking this thread to post about Milk-Chan pillow

Most of them are on TikTok calling themselves systems now or whatever the new mental trend is

Cool pellow

Revenge of the Sunfish

mouthwashing

safe