Its really not that hard

its really not that hard....

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Guilty Gear and Blazblue both include stylish mode

normalfags ignore those games

SF adds in modern controls

normalfags don't use it

granblue makes technical inputs useless altogether

normalfags still use them alongside simple inputs

Maybe the issue isn't really motion inputs hmm?

Did anyone say it was?

boomers will look at this and tell you it's good game design

U really need someone to answer that. There are people here that can’t do quarter rotations.

My closest irl friends. u_u

smashies can’t into this

What game?

>granblue makes technical inputs useless altogether

Never played it, but I remember something along the lines of simple inputs having cooldowns, while motion inputs have no cooldowns.
So anyone who gets good will eventually use them both according to the situation.

I like motion inputs. Too bad I have to grind like a madman and be part of a pyramid scheme to see progress.

I can't read inputs

Holy shit, even bots can do it. What are you even doing?

But modern mode is an absolute success with how many use it. Also funny thing is how they made strive without stylish/modern mode while making instant block harder and it still ended up completely overshadowing every other anime fighter in popularity with no auto combos, no 1 button specials and no simple mode.

This is impossible to do consistently without a stick. You shouldn't need a $300 special controller just to play a game.

Here's 4 performed on a basic Playstation controller.

I'm a diamond 2 shitter and I rarely see modern users.

GGS is fun but the game is dead, they took way too damn long for these DLC characters that nobody gave a shit about.

I literally use the joystick instead of dpad on controller

And here's like 5 on the same controller.

capcom cup second place was a literal kid playing on analog stick
git gud scrub

I use my ps4 controller on my pc. Sometimes I get some misinputs because the Bluetooth on it sucks ass so I gotta use a wire.

2k+ steam players plus crossplay

dead

Do people seriously think those are low numbers for a fighting game?

Fighting game players will try to convince you that getting combo'd like that is fun and they genuinely think they're right in the head.

Why is jumping over fireballs such a weird concept to people

I find qcf harder than dp on pad

Normalfags don't play granblue, Guilty Gear and Blazblue

Maybe the issue isn't really motion inputs hmm?

Good luck telling that to modern FG devs

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anon posts combo webm

another anon complains about getting hit with it

Have you considered inserting yourself as the person landing the combo?

You call 2.2k on PC alone after 4 years dead? Feels like it takes longer to get matches in fucking Tekken 8 after they fucked the matchmaking in season 2.

characters nobody gave a shit about

The entirety of season 3 was the game's highest peaks since launch what are you saying?

I stopped playing fighting games when I realized I sucked at them and didn't feel like being a punching bag for other people. Last one I played was with first Blazblue.

All true except for GG
Also granblue is full of gacha players who idle for items

nta but GG is absolutely a normalfag game now.

Getting to combo the other guy is fun, don't get it twisted.
Imagine being such a FUCKING KEK that you imagine being the guy getting hit instead of the guy doing a combo. Jesus christ, what is wrong with people today.

The hell it is. It's probably at peak of popular mountain when it comes to anime fighters but it's in no way mainstream.

simply block the opener

Sure, it won't be Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat, but being 4th or 5th place in the genre puts it well above niche status.

Seth is the most fun character i've ever played. it's not just because of his inputs but they do contribute to the satisfaction. it's looking grim for the future of this genre.

Deserved for playing Toki.

If you have no experience with fighting games you're never going to land a combo like that, most of the time you'll be the one getting combo'd like that or worse, and you wonder why people don't touch fighting games
Wow I didn't know it was that simple

I don't spend time thinking about what non-players do or don't do. Play someone at your own level is all I have to say.

Wow I didn't know it was that simple

uh, yeah?
Just block nigga

I was gonna keep disagreeing but then I thought about it and realized strive probably has more players than 99% of non SF, Tekken and MK fighting games combined if puddle.farm is anything to go by. You're kinda right.

If you have no experience with fighting games you're never going to land a combo like that

you will also never get an ace in counter strike, a penta in league, a knockdown in irl boxing, etc.
yes, it takes experience to do cool shit. that's the appeal.

you wonder why people don't touch fighting games

They don't touch them because they're little bitches like you

If you have no experience with fighting games you're never going to be matched against someone who plays like that.

this, i could mash mvc3 with my non-player friends and have fun.

Play someone at your own level is all I have to say

This only applies to [current SF].

Seth is fun but damn, even practicing him for an extended period of time actually does get a bit rough on the hands. Nowhere near Naoto from BBCF but still working with a flurry of inputs and side-switches.
And now you can even weave in [FF] > 236C in there too.

If you have no experience with fighting games you're never going to be matched against someone who plays like that.

Yeah that's bullshit

my problem isnt with the motion input on its own its just memorizing every input for whatever characters I want to play. Everytime I play MvC3 I have to look up what inputs I need and frankly thats bad design.

If I want to play an old game I have to actually practice and learn from people who have been playing for years?!

FIGHTING GAMES SUCK

I see blue squares and D rank shitters even in "dead" anime games.
Honestly, unless you're somehow wanting to learn actual dead games like Arcana Heart which I HIGHLY doubt there's still beginners even in Blazblue and UNI2.

learn to friends, was playing the virtua fighter beta with a friend and had fun.

learn from people

where did this delusional take come from? you're not gonna learn shit by getting perfected and juggled by 50 hit combos you retard.

why fighting games create this mentality? people dont expect to play the top dogs at any multiplayer game but retards think they will be matched with EVO top 8 all the time.

Which SF are you going to be juggled by 50 hit combos? And getting perfected is entirely on your end as well, throwing out normals or simply not blocking because, again, you need to practice.

it's not the juggle that you learn from, it's where you got hit in neutral. also most people that stomp you will gladly give you pointers on what to do better, especially in niche games.

One of the best ways to learn how to even pilot your character is watching better people play them.
You don't even have to understand why they're doing what they're doing yet, just imitating them and their habits will already make you a better player by default if you do.

Absolute egomaniac losers like anon cope with every loss that way. They lost to a world champion genius savant instead of some bronze shitter who make up 98% of fighting games.

literally impossible

well if you understood how that is supposed to be interpreted it's not. You just move down forward, do a half circle from back, then a reverse dp
It's 3 separate motions and after doing this a few times you will just learn it. What input is this anyway? Is this Ivy's calamity symphony? I don't know I haven't played this game in ages but these actually aren't that hard to learn once you realize you are supposed to "chunk" them.

you learn each character's best normals and pokes so that you can anticipate them and block them during the neutral game you spastic. you act as if being combo'd is something that randomly happens to you when instead it's your failure as a player to defend correctly.

combos combos combos

only normals maybe a medium punch into shouryuken, all i need to beat a combo nigger that knows nothing about the game.

I speak from experience, you can't learn from playing sweaty strangers online, if you have friends to try shit out with you sure, otherwise you should steer far away from fighting games.
Which is why the new fatal fury game has bombed, big franchises like SF and Tekken will always sell but when you have a fighting game by itself with no franchise power it bombs because of the massive barrier of entry.

It's sad that every fighting game thread on Anon Babble needs the same bait in the OP if it wants to hit bump limit.

Daigo did this for both Mahjong and Street Fighter. First you copy, then you slowly realize why the things are good and then you come up with your own shit once you already have a good fundamental understanding.

If I lose to a character I'm learning I save the replay to study it. That alone is learning, unless you have an ego/learning disability.

Genuine question: how many of those hours are in practice mode getting a handle on your character

I'm going to play devil's advocate for a second here though

Neutral Game

Which in modern fighters is like nonexistent. The retarded devs believe their offense heavy game balance is going to attract casuals when really it doesn't because a casual can never grasp a game that's completely composed of trading blockstring setups into 50/50s.

Normalfags play Mortal Kombat, smash and MAYBE street fighter or tekken if they're nerds

but muh steam charts!

MK1 sold more on consoles

47 hours

you are close anon, i would say the fighting game really starts to get in your blood by the 80 hours mark, i started at gold and by 120-150 hours i got to diamond for the first time.

As someone who recently started playing fighting games for the first time less than 2 months ago, those are genuinely as easy if not easier than quarter circles. You just makes a Z motion in the bottom of the control stick and it works what's so hard about that.
These on the other hand, I literally can't I literally cannot, I do not understand what I'm doing wrong. I will practice my supers for literally HOURS in training mode and get them all off constantly. Then I take it online and not a single super comes out. I stun my opponent and am left looking like an idiot as I wiff the air.
Is it nerves? Is it lag? Should I treat full circles differently online? Please explain!

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I'm seeing many people (including my friends that I'm teaching) get filtered by CotW combos even though the most demanding inputs are shit like

623C Break

5C Feint 5C

that's not even a motion and brains are being melted by it.

I don't mind it, still better than trying to talk about any fighting game on fucking Anon Babble.

Nothing quite hits that feeling of epiphany of

You can fucking do that?

That works?

That can combo into that?

when learning new shit

uh actually you need at least 100 hours in labbing to even have a CHANCE of having fun sweaty

huh?? why new people don't give fighting games a try or stick around after giving it a fair shot???

It's a mystery, truly.

And it's one of the most boring fighters out right now for a reason.
Even watching it feels boring as shit.
At least you can appreciate the visuals in another way.
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labbing

im the monkey poster, i hardly did any labbing, just basic combos and counter to some annoying moves, i learned through ranked mode.
sub-50 hours is just not enough, you need more hours to your body get used with the game.

So you were actually trolling the whole time?
Who gives a fuck if people stick around, if you want to get good you need to put some effort in.

Learning disability it is.
Quite the epidemic.

yeah I agree they should let anyone with a driver's license compete in formula 1 bro!

At least one of you is honest enough that you only want new players to start playing fighting games to get ez wins online, why even bother with all the fake positive & supportive shit? it's transparent as fuck

100 hours is nothing when you factor in the total amount of time you spend playing videogames or say bullshitting on this website. The majority of that learning curve is also universal you aren't just learning what you can do you are also learning how your character interacts with other characters and the more of an understanding you reach the less you will need to use training mode to really understand the game. Well unless you are trying to win a trophy at some queerbait E sports event.

Fine, one last (You)
Most people have been in this exact situation, cried a little, then wiped their tears and sat back into the pain chamber. Now they are playing the game and having fun and telling others to do the same. Why? Because it's a video game and it's fun and they put in effort to get here and think you should too.

new players to start playing fighting games to get ez wins online

I see this bait all the time, but just to clarify, a newfag is never going to run into a longtime player unless you jump into something like random casual matchmaking or join one of the lobbies that have blinking neon labels that say "VETERAN PLAYERS ONLY".
Ranked exists for a reason.

nah, diamond isnt much but at least i dont get raped all the time and im a Jamie main so with a decent character you could probably climb higher.

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It's actually nuts how much a leverless made fighting game enjoyable to me. No more lost inputs and bad joystick wiggling. No "which gate is superior". You learn the buttons and how much delay you put between them and done. Zoomer friendly. Modernized.

Fighting games are outdated as fuck and SHOULD be fucking dead, cause there's no innovation.

Fighting games be like

Too new and bad; fun

Get some kind of experienced at a main character; ruined

Stockholm syndrome

That shit filtered me too at first. I can do them easy now, but fuck my brain could not comprehend the timings and having to press all of these different combinations of buttons and on top of performing them against a living person.

I heard there was some strange shortcut input for 360s based on a quirk of the input reader so look into that.

New player starts playing

"Well I have no experience so I should play casual"

get demolished by veterans

"wow this game sucks I'm done"

Other new player goes to ranked instead

Get demolished by smurfs

"wow this game sucks I'm done"

Brilliant

cause there's no innovation.

Are modern FPS games innovating at all to be worth keeping around too?

As long as I'm having fun

only if you never get better, life is hard anon, even trying irl sports you will suffer for months, at least with vidya you can power grind 100 hours within 2-3 weeks, in a real martial it would kill you.

normalfags

tranime games

lol

He doesn't play Modern

Get demolished by smurfs

The only reason you think they're smurfs is because you lost, time to get on that grind baby, because trust me that F-Rank player you lost to would get mauled by most of the playerbase.

Fightingkeks still struggling to address the most basic bitch complaints about their genre in 2025 is sad, wonder if that guy that was shilling City of the Wolves killed himself by now after seeing the sales numbers.

But I'll get trounced at the arcade if I get used to some home console only control scheme.

ERMMMMM, isnt modern even harder cuz you have to use both your one button moves and specials in your combos aswell......?

even trying irl sports you will suffer for months

More respectable than fighting games

Fighting games are outdated as fuck and SHOULD be fucking dead, cause there's no innovation.

innovation for the sake of innovation

Literally is what is destroying the genre. Imagine if every few years a comittee of douchebags started just changing the rules of every sport for no reason. "Yea boxers should just be forced to allow the losing fighter a free punch twice every round you know we gotta get the casuals in the door." Then the casuals show up for like a few PPVs just to see what all of the fuss is about disappear when the novelty wears off and everyone else who is invested is just stuck participating in a degenerate sport.
Modern fighting games are in a similar predicament. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. The AAA obsession is also going to hurt this genre in the long run. Fighting games were better when there were MANY games but of lower quality just to allow devs room to experiment. Nowadays we get like 5 "good" games for what seems like 8 years that go through game breaking patches every year and they just experiment too heavily with mainline franchises and everyone is just stuck with these games.
"Oh you like 3d fighters then just play tekken" "Oh you hate tekken 8 well looks like you are shit out of luck buddy!!!"

And we both know you won't attempt sports neither.

That was the original GBFV. Rising changed the mechanic to have no downsides.

But I'll get trounced at the arcade

lol
The Arcade

respectable

what it has to do with anything, people at volley are shouting because you cant do shit for the team and people arent really fond to spar with you on bjj because you are so weak.
you should stop being a vanity/ego fag and think about improving yourself.

You don't go to the arcade to play games with the boys?
You're missing out dude.

Anon Babble gets hacked, giving anons ample time to learn how to play fighting games

anons just return with even more excuses

PLAY FIGHTING GAMES
GIT GUD AT FIGHTING GAMES

not an argument.

I'm glad fighting games are a niche with people like you guys mulching new players up to the point they just run away.

is 2 AM in japan, that means today is the Kunzite lady's BD :DDDDDD
Say something nice about her!

I'm not the one playing them nor am I the one giving up.
Most of them probably weren't worth keeping around to begin with if the desire to LEARN isn't even present in them to begin with.

git gud or git MULCHED

It was an order, not an argument.

It's the cycle of the game. Rough games require rough people. You just weren't cut out for the business.
BWO
BWO
BWO!!!!!!

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PWEASE NEW PLAYERS PLAY FIGHTING GAMES IT'S SO FUN I'LL BE YOUR FRIEND AND YOU'LL ENJOY YOURSELF LEARNING STUFF!

New player spends 60+ Dollars and start playing the game just to get absolutely destroyed with no way of fighting back

AHAHAHHA GET FUCKED NOOB GIT GUD JUST FUCKING UNINSTALL YOU ARE NOT MADE FOR A HARDCORE GAME LIKE THIS FOR HARDCORE GAMERS LIKE MYSELF! HAVE I TOLD YOU I'M BETTER THAN YOU YET?

wow why is it so difficult to get new people to play fighting games, am I the problem? no it is the unexperienced players who are wrong.

When has anyone ever said the first half? I never begged for new players.

with no way of fighting back

press buttons

When has anyone ever said the second half? In ITT we told him he should study players and do some basic practice

do you believe that a brand new player deserves to win against someone who is established and has a stronger understanding of the game? what alternative are you trying to propose?

I like how Anon Babble hates fighting games so much mainly because it requires effort to improve at and that path will include a lot of losing that you can only blame on yourself.
These gaming kids nowadays are soft I tell ya.

Simple inputs do 10% less damage
EX and Ultimate specials put the special on cooldown for a few seconds
Simple inputs make it so you don't have to charge on charge characters

ah yes after 100 hours of training I can play a game where every map/level/stage is the same. Where the only variety in the game from the 20-30 characters who most of which require paying for the DLC and ontop of that the visual customization of these characters cost more with possible microtransactions to buy fake money with real money. All for a genre that really is quite boring and lonely playing online and only fun with a buddy on the couch who wont wanna play for too long if you keep kicking his ass

Didn't you know? If a game doesn't have at least 50000 concurrent players, then it is not worth even thinking about.

This is a lot of cope just because you can't be good at a game immediately

Steamcharts has done irreparable damage to fighting game discussions.