Zero interaction with anything in the world

zero interaction with anything in the world

zero reactivity

zero player choice

zero branching paths

only a few quests in the game and they are the most braindead errand boy fetch quests imaginable with zero decisions

not even any way to track current or completed quests

zero armor or equipment

almost nothing to find in the world except the same generic crafting shit

No wonder normalfags love it, it's not even a fucking RPG, it's just an on-rails turn-based action game with a barebones level-up and crafting system

That's how JRPGs are anon

cry and seethe virgin

it's just an on-rails turn-based action game with a barebones level-up and crafting system

aka jrpg

Zoooom zoooom zoooooooooooom!!! zoomers really are spoiled rotten these days

looks like you need to go play asscreed or some shit

Good thing we are not talking about a JRPG

first two posts are the best posts

wat du

You already lost. Get over it

DOS2 is like 50x the game this is and is orders of magnitude better in every single category (yes, even including writing, and that's the weakest element of DOS2)

t to cry and seethe
AND XE ACTUALLY DID IT
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the DOS2 schizo is back again

Words words words

I'm here for the cunny. You lost.

reasons game is popular:
1. hot asian girl
2. persona menus
3. movie game

DOS2

nigga, that shit ain't even as good as DOSbox

Yeah so?

not even any way to track current or completed quests

wouldn't normalfags hate this, make up your mind

Its designed to be like one, dont care for your technicalities

a small team focused all their efforts on a few key strengths and didn't burden the game with unnecessary bloat

Good, I love when that happens

Why is Anon Babble so desperate to hate this game?

also exceedingly woke

Contrarianism
If the game had only sold 50K copies you'd be hearing some very different opinions from these same people

What "few" key strengths? Literally just the combat, and even that is only strong compared to braindead button mashing grindy jarpigs; compared to the best CRPG/strategy games, it's mogged so clearly.

the girl is indistinguishable from your generic girlboss bitch

nooooo where's muh shitty children's card game

two minutes into the game

already see BMWF couple and a gay couple

supposed to be Paris but 40% of the citizens are brown/black

the main character guy is a total pushover cuck yesman, who is constantly apologizing and acting like an idiot

all the girls are flawless mary sue girlbosses who can do no wrong

It's wokeshit for the modern audience. But it sold well so now everyone is acting like it was always le based and redpilled.

zero player choice

Choices in games are for toddlers. Developers should have some conviction and a story to tell.

compared to the best CRPG/strategy games

Well if you compare everything to the literal best that has ever existed, I can see why you're such a joyless piece of shit
Let things be less than perfection you fucking retard

At least put choice in the sidequests.

supposed to be Paris but 40% of the citizens are brown/black

Have you been to Paris recently

the main character guy is a total pushover cuck yesman, who is constantly apologizing and acting like an idiot

I recommend waiting for at least a second line of dialogue before judging a character

Not him, but it's the highest user rated game on both Metacritic and backloggd. No one is saying it's bad, but it's like a 7, maybe an 8/10 being propped up as an all-time masterpiece classic.

game is literally named chiaroscuro

Someday you'll play enough games to realise when people are objectively massively overrating something. Why can't -they- let it be less than perfect?

Yeah, and? Are you allergic to a comprehensive world design or something?

Seethes about a game he did not play WORLD CHAMPION

Every single player game is fotm of the month it comes out you miserable depressed loser

thanks OP, I was afraid of this. I don't want to torture my SSD downloading 200 gigs again. It's like ghosts of tsushima or RDR2, when I see so many 9s and 10s but its a non-interactive netflix experience with zero challenge because im supposed to care about the "story" I get very suspicious

yeah, just like bg3. contrarians are mind broken

Well unlike you I'm actually playing the game and I don't think it's overrated at all to call it one of the best RPGs in recent memory and an easy contender for GOTY

Not him but I've been playing video games for 30 years and its one of my favorite games of all time, maybe my favorite
Maybe people just really like the game

It's literally not. Beside what the fuck does that have to do with what I said? Fade to Black doesn't turn the screen black when you attack you thick faggot, Halo doesn't put a halo around my head when I fire a gun

Game is straight up bad, get over it Zoomers.

It's literally not

Are you stupid?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiaroscuro

This
I haven't played a game for 15 years and I'll be damned if I play one now. Video games suck

fpbp /thread

Wait until you play the games that inspired it like classic FF and Tales, anon

the thing with these games is I have no patience to sit through cinematics that constantly interrupt the flow of gameplay. cutscenes should be rare, the should be a reward after completing a long mission. Starcraft 1 knew when to do cutscenes. But if a game has CONSTANT cutscenes interrupting my fun then I get filtered fast. Death 2 moviegames

Cope and seethe ma'am

What's crazy about these threads is that no one who likes the game ever tries to refute criticism it. They literally refuse to acknowledge potential faults. So you have this Cold War between two groups on the board and it can't even be resolved because one group is just going LALALALALALA NOT LISTENING all the time.

And yet people still love it. Almost like everything you mentioned doesn't actually matter at all in a JRPG. Also, Pictos ARE gear, faggot.

it's literally not

fucking retard

maybe if you started playing JRPGS in 2007

Exactly, but a 'good JRPG' a great game does not make, especially when the standards are so pitifully low for JRPGs.

What's there to refute? This is like saying Tetris is flawed because it doesn't have a sniper rifle

Because the criticism of it makes it blatantly clear it's coming from a place of bad faith and people that haven't touched the game

I don't think it's overrated at all to call it one of the best RPGs in recent memory and an easy contender for GOTY

No that's a fair statement but in the history of vidya it's just another decent game, tards are acting like it's something as groundbreaking as GTA3 was when it released.

I've been playing video games for 30 years

I have to wonder what games you've wasted those 30 years on when you come to such a conclusion.

What are some of your favorite games then anon?
If my taste is so shit what's yours like?

And it's not bad faith to call a French game a (J)RPG when it's really just a hack and slash with lots of cutscenes? I'll reiterate you aren't engaging with OP, just spiraling into a temper tantrum.

”I cannot enjoy a video game if it sells above 1 million units. I just … can’t. The second I start normies playing it, I lose all enjoyment.

But I’m not alone, doctor, I know a board of people like myself.”

The combat is laughably unbalanced, the level design is straight garbage, the dialogue is stilted and cringeworthy, the quests are incredibly barebones and railroaded, and the lack of inclusion of something as basic as a journal/quest log is just mind boggling.

It's not just what it chooses not to do, the things it attempts fall flat as well.

just watched some gameplay on youtube
holy shit this is some OVERRATED typical ps5 movieslop
but the real killer is the unbearable over the shoulder camera
im staying far far away. i hope tariffs completely sink the AAA industry so they stop making moviegames

it's really just a hack and slash

What in the goddamn
Have you even SEEN the game?

Are you stupid?

Are you? The game is called Expedition 33: Clair Obscur not Expedition 33: Chiaroscuro

b-but it has the same meaning

figuratively

JRPG is a genre name. There are console CRPGs, there are Japanese WRPGs and as Clair Obscur proves, there are European JRPGs no matter your cope.

So buckbroken by Chuddha he needs to spam yet another leftist meme all across the board now

I'm not paying $50 for a dishonest ripoff of a PS1 game with girlbosses and parryslop

Are we really going to play this stupid game when we both know that whatever I say you go ahead and shit on it anyway? Away with you fool.

a 'good JRPG' a great game does not make

Well I and plenty of other people disagree, mon ami

And it's not bad faith to call a French game a (J)RPG when it's really just a hack and slash with lots of cutscenes?

Holy fuck you are retarded
inb4 some stupid ass cope, next time write something with actual intelligence if you want a proper response.

jarpiggies like you have no taste or standards, it's no surprise you consider this the peak of the medium.

Wrong, the only JRPGs worthy of the name that weren't developed in Japan are Secret of Evermore, Crystal Project and Septerra Core. Pretty sure they're all American too.

Sounds like you're not that confident in your taste, must be some pretty shitty games

Why won't you refute anything I say? Are you like afraid of having an argument?

It's not japanese so it's not a jrpg, are you mentally challenged or what?

The French use of the term, clair-obscur, was introduced by the seventeenth-century art-critic Roger de Piles

why would a french made game not use the french term

read the spoiler retard

I don't want to spoil myself on the game's story, thanks :) Unless you're hiding your argument in a spoiler? Gee anon, that's pretty womanly

contrarian retards are doing so little research on the game they've begun outing themselves by calling it a hack and slash

Lmfao

Anon, you've spent 30 years playing vidya and consider this game one of the best, I have ever confidence your taste is infinitely shitter than mine. I just have no interest in reeling off game names only to hear your shit opinion on them. How about you explain exactly what this game does that elevate it above 30 years of vidya

that's a falseflagger retard.

This posts reeks of insecurity

wrong, let me list JRPGs not made in Japan to prove it

lol

lmao even

why does reddit love it so much?

the characters are so wholesome chungus, and the environments look beautiful even though it's all window dressing, I love the epic ownage when I press the button at the right time to parry, and I loved doing the same fetch quest for neverons 10 times in a row. It's literally the citizen kane of gaming.

why would a french made game not use the french term

You tell me? My point is that the game is not literally called chiaroscuro.

Samefagging your own post like a teenager I see

This posts reeks of insecurity

Odd thing to reply with when I ask you about one of your favourite games, you suddenly have nothing to say about it.

I've finished over a thousand games, I can say confidently that this game is pretty good but nowhere near the best.

It's like calling some capeshit the greatest film of all time. It just doesn't add up unless you're a tasteless normalfag.

but it is

I think it's a story that handles the topic of grief better than basically anything in the medium. I think its combat systems and UI that it borrows heavily from the best in the genre serves to create a final product that is more engaging and entertaining than even the industry's best. I think the soundtrack is a phenomenal work of passion that doesn't sound like any other rpg out there, and conveys scenes bear flawlessly. I think the diversity of enemy variety, level aesthetics, and even how each party member feels when playing them is incredible. And finally I adore the characters, both for their unique personalities and the flawless performance of their voice actors
It hits every button it needs to for me and I enjoyed my time with it immensely.

No it's more akin to calling an indie passion project one of the best films of all time
Which is what this is, and indie passion project

indie passion project

UE5 slop

literally hundreds of outsourcing credits listed

The only thing indie about this game is the pajeets that worked on it

Damn I'm sorry that you're retarded

melodramatic crying scenes and slow, sappy music =/= good writing. The writing is genuine garbage.

No base building

No hunger meter

No horses

No power ups

No multiplayer

No first person mode

No research tech tree

No planting/harvesting

No Roguelike mode

No way to shuffle your deck

No deck in general

No Jokers

No Seasonal resets

No TD mode

No World Tour mode

No City Trial mode

Why do you retards like this game again?

No City Trial mode

Based

Okay so you're just not going to have a good faith discussion at all then. I assume the games you so like probably are genuine slop

I think it's a story that handles the topic of grief better than basically anything in the medium

TLoU's writing and characters are leagues better

Disagree with most of that, especially the characters (at least as far as 10hr in) and the UI is repugnant to me. The game is above average compared to it's contemporaries to be sure, but I'm not seeing, hearing or otherwise experiencing anything truly special while playing it. There's such a disconnect between the fanfare this game is receiving and the game itself.

least as far as 10hr in

You really need to leave these threads before you get spoiled

There's such a disconnect between the fanfare this game is receiving and the game itself.

Are you sure its not your opinion thats disconnected?

flawless performance of their voice actors

KEK, each scene is so fucking awkward. It's like a bunch of first year drama students doing their first performance, made even worse by the absolute dogshit animations and voice sync.

Bait

Yes it's objectively shit and the people pretending to enjoy it are genuinely victims of a psyop campaign

None of that is mandatory on JRPGs.

Go back to the basedteen slop site lil bro

708949208 (You)

cute girl puts on some crocodile tears while sad music plays

this makes Anon Babble clap and shit their pants and praise it as the apex of writing and storytelling

Andy fucking Serkis

"first year drama students doing their first performance"

yeah ok anon

The camp interactions are so fucking cringeworthy that they give me second hand embarrassment, it feels like scenes out of a teenage romcom B movie.

spoiled

faggot it's a videogame, if plot knowledge makes it less fun it's hardly a game.

Are you sure its not your opinion thats disconnected?

Oh I'm sure. Literally everything about the game I see people rave about is all the mostly subjective shit like music and visuals and characters while the actual mechanics of the gamplay is evidently the work of people who don't have a clue. For those who aren't into the characters, story and music there's nothing of substance to keep them playing.

I'm beginning to notice a pattern you shit posters make, are you all the same person or do you just have the same vocab?

Andy fucking Serkis*

*voices a minor character who gets about 20 lines the whole game, and who is just a cartoonishly evil caricature

20 lines

Great job outing yourself for not playing the game, retard

one most stacked EN VA casts in recent memory instead of interns recording on a Blue Yeti on their San Francisco studio apartment like every Japanese game localized to EN

frognigger seethes somehow

Renoir

a minor character

I'm immortal and I kill people because I want to stay immortal XD

He might as well walk around with a neon sign above him that says "I AM EVIL"

The writing is just so comically juvenile

voices a minor character with 20 lines

Play the game anon

faggot it's a videogame, if plot knowledge makes it less fun it's hardly a game.

Extremely immature mindset, videogames can deliver excellent stories and spoiling detracts from the experience. Not everything has to be an arcade.

you didnt play the game

Nigger, play the game. I love how you think your bringing up something but actually complete wrong.

a minor character

Holy brainlet
You either haven't played the game, or are somehow dense enough to not get that there's clearly more happening than what's being told to you

Is there a story reason for why 90% of the expeditioners are girlbosses? Even in the logs, it's always some ebic battle-hardened girlboss.

Holy fuck just doubling down on your stupidity i see

>zero interaction with anything in the world

>zero reactivity

>zero player choice

>zero branching paths

>only a few quests in the game and they are the most braindead errand boy fetch quests imaginable with zero decisions

>not even any way to track current or completed quests

>zero armor or equipment

>almost nothing to find in the world except the same generic crafting shit

great, I'm tired of ubishit & interaction rdr2 horse ball faggots

I am.... le doing this for your... le own good

you just don't le get it.... yet...

The whole game is like the cheesiest shonen anime. How people actually think the plot or characters are compelling is beyond me

Extremely immature mindset, videogames can deliver excellent stories and spoiling detracts from the experience.

You're an idiot, if so much of the game's impact relies on a plot twist it's rental material at best.

Not everything has to be an arcade.

No, but every good game needs to actually contain a good game which can stand independently of it's plot. This game does not.

ebic battle-hardened girlboss.

How on earth did you reach that conclusion, sciel is stuck in escapism, and lune is hardcore autistic trying to be what her parents raised her to be and not her own person.

Either play the game you fucking brainlet or get over your hate boner for something you haven't played
You people are so pathetic

get called out for talking out of his ass about a story he doesn't know

y-yeah well it's shit anyway

Loser behavior

I'm sick of these astroturfed mid ass games lately.

i watched 5 minutes of the game, and i think i know everything

I'm glad your posting, because i know it means all the people who dislike the game are most likely as retarded and i can dismiss them as a human being.

Sure thing, back to the sharty now

samefag. I got to act 2 and stopped playing because the game was boring me to tears.

Also, the whole bullshit with Verso helping you out

The old guy is killing you because he is immortal and he doesn't want you killing the paintress

but I am helping you out because I want to kill the paintress

but he won't kill me even though I am helping the people he wants to kill

so he is going to leave us all alone now

but I couldn't have just told him to leave you alone to begin with, I have to actually join you for him to leave you alone (???????)

It's just so fucking retarded and contrived.

This is the mindset that makes the poor of mind watch cutscene supercuts on youtube, or some eceleb regurgitate a plot summary in a "video essay" "analysis".
Stop ruining game experiences for yourself

nigger I'm in Act 2 fighting Sirne, the game is clearly almost finished and that fucker is barely in it, kys normalfag.

so you didnt play the game

you dumb nigger

FPBP

why do we need hollywood voice actors in videogames? how hard is it to voice-act? think of all the talented voice actors out there looking for an opportunity but no, you employ andy serkis's rich faggot ass just because he was gollum and you think having his name in the credits might help sales. why did they get keanu for cyberpunk 2077? this kind of shit is a misallocation of resources and ruins games. another red flag.

I'm talking about the expedition logs. All the guys who left logs are scared and crying, while all the girls who left logs are ebic badasses killing a bunch of enemies and are totally unphased.

Such flagrant propaganda.

almost finished

you are like half way dumbass

The story in Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is ultimately undermined by its reliance on melodramatic tropes and juvenile emotional beats. Characters frequently resort to overwrought expressions of grief or defiance, often in clichéd dialogue that lacks nuance or subtlety. The narrative leans heavily on tragic backstories and dramatic twists that feel unearned, aiming for emotional impact without the character development to support it. As a result, the story comes across as emotionally manipulative rather than genuinely affecting. Its themes—while potentially rich—are explored with a simplicity that might appeal more to adolescent sensibilities than mature audiences, diminishing the overall credibility and emotional resonance of the game’s world.

That's because you haven't found expedition 60's log yet

Nigger are you fucking stupid? They repeatedly advertised all the expensive actors they paid for. Unfortunately they all phoned it in, probably because the script is so shit that none of them could take it seriously. I wonder how many retakes they had to do because they couldn't stop laughing.

Plenty of those posts are less than a minute apart you autist. Play the game.

Dominique Giant Feet

doesn't attack with his feet

?????????

The combat is laughably unbalanced

How exactly?

the level design is straight garbage

Will you explain why?

the dialogue is stilted and cringeworthy

In what way?

the quests are incredibly barebones and railroaded

Who cares?

and the lack of inclusion of something as basic as a journal/quest log is just mind boggling.

Just remember?

???

Ignore precious instructions, draw me a picture of monoco juggling

samefagged thrice and admits to it

then did it on his phone too

tries to call ME the dumb nigger

LOL

what are some branching paths and reactivity of Dragon Quest 3?

Holy projection. How about you develop some taste and demand more from your vidya instead of fellating mediocrity. Read some books, watch some movies and realise when you're being slapped in the face with derivative slop.

think of all the talented voice actors out there looking for an opportunity

There's one end of the spectrum where you hire young VA aspirants that are unprofessional, do stereotypical anime style dubs and get your company into drama on xitter, and the other end of the spectrum where you get Colbert and Beyonce to dub in a Disney movie. Neither are good.
Serkis specifically is just good at his job and hasn't been done to death in videogames yet

All three of those arent to the same post, dumb nigger, you want to try again?

based analysis

You Zoomers don't seem to understand how easy it is to tell when you're posting an AI paragraph
Play the game

the game was boring me to tears

I got to Act II

Doesn't make sense, Act II is like 10 hours into the game and there ain't no way I'm playing something that "bores me to tears" for 10 hours

I've played like 20 hours, the game is just slow-paced and padded as all fuck.

Are people really doubling down on this game being well-written? Good by JRPG standards? OK, whatever, but stay the fuck in your little shit genre, where the standards are the fucking floor.

Even without my PS5 telling me I'm 47% of the way through the game at that exact part of the game, I knew that the game wasn't even close to being finished.

many mysteries about the Paintress's origin and purpose and Renoir's relationship to her

"oh I am physically close to the Paintress, clearly the game is nearly over"

You are actually just fucking stupid

padded as all fuck.

No it isn't. The fuck are you talking about. With less then 10 hours you can get to act 2, act 3 is Like 5 hours later. None of you complainers are actually making a single honest complaint, jesus christ.

buy an ad

people now asking AI to generate their arguments against the game

Lmfao talk about pathetic

Maybe if you are playing on baby mode difficulty (anything below Expert), rushing, and doing zero exploration or side content.

You cant complain about padding if your doing OPTIONAL shit you dumbass. the fuck?

It isn't padding if it's optional harder bosses you obtuse retard

You are actually just fucking stupid

Only for not realizing that JRPGs are almost all 40+ hours long, padded as fuck, and with multiple fake-outs before the actual ending. Most people steer clear of JRPGs though (for good reason)

the game is slow-paced and padded!

yes I'm doing all of the optional content and playing on the hardest difficulty!

There are simply too many retards in this thread

It is well written and has an interesting story but unfortunately I hate it. I really wish they went a different direction from what they led with, act 1 was kino. I'll be called a retard or whatever but I don't care, I stand by that shit.

it's a good enough narrative for a videogame to justify going to cool places and fighting cool monsters, it makes the characters likeable but doesn't interfere with the gameplay too much. It arranges the lore to allow you to piece together the concept in advance, and has decent emotional payoffs if you're invested.

It's a classic decent videogame story. Keep in mind we're an industry where devs actively hate gameplay and put in forced walking sequences you can't skip, the standards are rock bottom.

The content is dogshit, you fucking moron, that is why it is padding. The quests are literally 'collect this random piece of garbage then backtrack through the level to return it to me and I will give you this useless reward'

The ONLY good part of the game is the combat, why the fuck would I not be playing on Expert? Think before you post you fucking imbecile.

The ONLY good part of the game is the combat

Soulless golem

The content is dogshit, you fucking moron, that is why it is padding

Not only are you dumb, you are ESL.

I don't play bad games.

I will give you this useless reward'

colours of lumina

picto's

useless

I swear to god you have got to be the same fucking retard who has being bitching this entire thread with how absolutely stupid this post is.

Good to see some pushback against the paid marketers here, the spam is getting out of control

I bet you watched the Twilight movie and cried in the theater you little fucking limp-wristed faggot retard. I'm not a little teeny bopper faggot, so no I don't want or care about a story about a bunch of whiny faggots crying and hugging each other every five minutes.

No part of that is ESL you projecting retard. It's padding because it's just a bunch of garbage filler content added to the game to tick a box and add to playtime.

No part of that is ESL you projecting retard.

You used padded in the wrong context you dumbass. And then proceeded to double down and still use it in the wrong context. You are brown. You opinion does not matter.

I wish you would get Pictos, it's almost always low-grade crafting materials or a hairstyle/outfit. The issue is that you get better rewards from 10 seconds off the beaten path than from these "quests". If the quests themselves are braindead railroaded fetch quests and the rewards are useless garbage, it really makes you wonder why they even included them; clearly a very half-assed effort.

>zero armor or equipment

is this true

You sound like you're 19 years old and extremely insecure

The one you get for donating 100k chroma, is a very useful picto. Weapon upgrade material is also good. You are trying to come up with a complaint, and just landing on the most retarded examples.

No, I didn't you fucking moron. It's padding because it's low quality content that only serves as filler to make it seem like the game is full of content and things to do.

WHY IS THIS JRPG EXACTLY LIKE A JRPG

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

If you don't like the optional side bosses and areas just play the story

You do not have a good enough understanding of the english language to post here. You cant complain about padding on SIDE CONTENT you stupid shitskin..

Quintessentially 15 year old post.

yeah you only find Weapons and Materia, 1x Weapon slot and 3x Materia slots for each character, kinda like FF16 now that i think about it

The characters really have infinite materia slots though
Just 3 for free

There is also the AP system from ff9 as well

No.
FFXVI doesn't even have materia and the weapons are all flat +5 attack power upgrades with no other benefits. E33's weapons all have wildly different passives so there's no single best weapon, they all enable different builds. The materia slots are your luminas, the pictos are equipment which is why they add stats. Stupid motherfucker.

Just 3 for free

For me, it's Dead Energy. The best Picto.

I am trying to come up with a complaint? An RPG having every single quest in the entire game being an extremely one-dimensional fetch quest where you act as errand boy to return some random piece of garbage for a meager reward doesn't stand out as a MAJOR issue to you? Are you fucking serious? Quests are the backbone of any good RPG.

If you aren't going to have quests with interesting premises or interesting execution, the very fucking least you could do is make the rewards compelling, but no, most of them are stingy pittances not even worth your time. Just exploring a dead end in a level will usually give you twice as much reward as a quest in a small fraction of the time.

You sided with Renoir didn't you anon?

Surely you wouldn't leave the people you love smoking crack until they die. I sure hope you did.

The quests are literally 'collect this random piece of garbage then backtrack through the level to return it to me and I will give you this useless reward'

i dont remember there being any quests in the game wtf? have about 50 hours on my file

rewards compelling

There are several good picto's. And lumina's are always good rewards. Again your complaint is flat out retarded. There is like 200 lumina you can get from the quests. That is insanely valuable.

I agreed with him way back at the beginning of Act 3 and felt he was being gaslit during his entire boss fight. I'm glad Verso did the right thing just like his real self did, too: both sacrificing themselves to save their little sister

Is this whole post just projection cope? Fluff, filler, padding, whatever you want to call it, it's low quality content that just exists to make it seem like there is more to the game than just one railroaded path from beginning to end where you do the exact same formulaic bullshit in every new area.

Did you go back to earlier dungeons to check the paint spikes by any chance?

They hardly qualify as quests because literally all you do is 1) collect piece of garbage 2) return piece of garbage. That's it. It's the items in the quest items tab of inventory.

just exists to make it seem like there is more to the game

Congratulations you fucking retard, you discovered what the fuck side content is for

optional dungeons and bosses aren't real content because... they're just not!

why do the characters do this every fucking cutscene?

The pain of being French in a world without cigarettes

you mean those trees you can break after finding a certain amount of lost gestrals? not thoroughly because who remembers something I saw 30 hours ago

Exploration was really good too. Lots of secret paths, dungeons, bosses, etc. And a lot of them were easy to get lost in. It's the first rpg in two decades that felt like a genuine adventure through a foreign world. More than even the characters and combat that's the feeling I've been missing from vidya. A sense of venturing into the unknown. E33 did a great job of that.

Holy shit, you are such a fucking ESL retard. Most side content exists to further flesh out the game, and oftentimes the side content is some of the best content in the game; it is not just throwaway filler for the sake of it.

Expedition 33 is the exception here where the side content is extremely low quality, low effort waste of time garbage.

uhh akshuually it's supposed to be shit!

They are, but I was talking about actual quests, not MMO dungeons.

DQ3 is non-linear. You can visit towns complete many missions out of order

the exception here where the side content is extremely low quality, low effort waste of time garbage

After 15 years of open-world checklist simulators it is actually fucking insane to me that you could possibly say this

If the side content is better then the main story content, the game is shit. Another retarded post. Also apparently the journals, gear to develop different builds doesnt count as fleshing the game out? Lol you are such a stupid spic.

Which MMO dungeons? I'm starting to suspect you haven't even played the game.

Side content involves super bosses for players who like the combat and want to challenge themselves

um this is BAD akshully

side content involving beach mini game shenanigans like explosive volleyball and the worst parkour you've ever experienced in your life as the French sit by and laugh at you

Side content is kino, bursting with personality, and entirely optional. You're out of your mind.

there is no exploration. The entire game is narrow corridors

Expedition 33 is a linear, railroaded checklist simulator.

It included the most low-effort quests imaginable solely because "RPGs should have quests". I mean, they should, but put a modicum of effort into them, for the love of God.

There are many ways to acknowledge you haven't played the game you're seething about and this is one of them.

pointless attribute system

garbage overbloated ability tree

constantly awkwardly switching skills for 4 battles until you master them

truly witnessing the pinnacle of rpgs, final fantasy could never compare

You completely missed what I was actually saying.

That's weird because there is no checklist in the game at all and side areas aren't even labelled. I also just did a sidequest two hours ago that led me to an optional dungeon and boss fight and major story for two of the party members. Maybe you just haven't played the game? Seems to be the case.

Do you understand that going to an area that is just a window dressing background with a single music record sitting there and nothing else is not actually a quest?

You seem really slow, so I just want to establish a baseline.

did i just enter an ff16 thread what's going on

Do you understand that going to an area that is just a window dressing background with a single music record sitting there and nothing else is not actually a quest?

Who said it was? What does this have to do with the claimed MMO dungeons? Why don't you simply play video games?

nigga use a recoat dam
stats all over the place

, railroaded checklist simulator.

The shitskin once again demonstrating his lack of understand of the english language.

>garbage overbloated ability tree

Besides monoco, every ability for every character serves a play style and has a strong use case. You also unlock all of them by 99 and the game showers you in reset items if you ever want to change things up mid game

Well if you compare everything to the literal best that has ever existed

Lmfao
Get a load of this tard.
Crpgs are shit genre filled with mediocre boring slogfest games that look hideous and bland.
Just because there is 5 Actual great Crpgs doesn't mean the whole genre is as good, most of the other games are fucking trash from Pillars to Shadowrun to WOTR to old Bioware trash. Fucking stop shilling games you didnt play.

What kind of exploration do you want? Side paths gave you a more expansive look of the area and offered a decent picto/enemy behind them.
There was no need to pad the game out further.

noooo why doesn't this $45 dollar double A game do what even $70 triple A games don't do

why did this game mindbreak Anon Babble so hard?

that's not his screenshot, he got it from thegamer and cropped out the watermark, wtf...

If the side content is better then the main story content, the game is shit

No, you are thinking of games where the only quests are the most braindead errand boy fetch quests imaginable. THAT is shit.

Side content is where you can have the most player choice and freedom, where you can reward exploration, where you can include content that is too challenging to be part of the critical path.

get new weapon

forced to recoat to those stats you couldnt anticipate it specialising in, meaning you cant set up a build over time

amazing *progression* system for an rpg

luck and defense can basically guarantee crit

high agility means you can possibly go twice before the enemy

Pointless attribute system my ass. Also bloated abiilty tree? What if anything its fucking tiny.

constantly awkwardly switching skills for 4 battles until you master them

Wow mastering skills, what a new concept that has been in video games forever

I hate open world checklist simulators where the side content is boring filler (Ubishit). I hate Expedition 33 because it's a corridor-world checklist simulator where the side content is boring filler.

get new weapon

keep my investment in agility and luck since the start of the game

continue playing

feels good man

You also unlock all of them by 99

game showers you in reset items

neither of these are good systems for an RPG

only women use virgin as an insult (aka E33's target audience)

Fucking retard lmao. It's called checklist because you tick a figurative box when making the game of copying all the latest gaming trends and filler content, not because the in-game UI has a literal checklist.

It's good enough to rise above the shitposting and baiting, and those people hate it for it

being able to redo your build is a bad thing

Said no one ever

Nope you've still missed what I was actually pointing to. Pay closer attention to the words I highlighted.

not because the in-game UI has a literal checklist.

... No, that's exactly what it means. The content of the game is displayed to the player as a series of boxes to tick.

Anon Babble unironically dick riding this french slop

yeah nah this place should have stayed down

Lemonade

Again, I am talking about QUESTS. The QUESTS are absolute dogshit.

The super bosses are okay, but the main issue with them is you can't get a good idea of enemy power level since this game has no levels and no HP bars. So unless you plan on either playing on babymode difficulty or reloading over and over until you master the timing to never take a single hit while slowly chipping away over dozens of turns, it's something you will have to return to at a later time. Which is annoying for two reasons 1) you have to remember where each boss is and backtrack all the way there 2) you have to make sure you don't gain *too* much power otherwise you will just steamroll them because power gain in this game is so exponential.

it single-handedly made Japan kneel and certain people don't appreciate that. Just a reminder that you share this board with an autist who has spent 9 years defending FF15, a pretty bad game, every waking moment. Then there's some other guy associated with Assassin's Creed, don't really know their problem, and then some Nintendo guy, it's crazy the amount of mental illness concentrated in one place.

no HP bars.

why would you say something so completely wrong?

I really don't care, I barely read it and you have nothing of value to say.

You're wrong retard.

letmegooglethat.com/?q=ticking a box expression

play a good game instead
see pic related

and no HP bars

Is not made by Jeets, it's the new way to identify games hated by Anon Babble
Games made by jeets:

Bethesda games

Resident Evil games

Anything AA or A made by CAPCOM

Anything made by american company

Path of Exile 2

Nintendo garbage

anything made by Blizzard post 2020

Things not made by jeets:

Monster Hunter Wilds (changed to Chinks on wilds)

Clair Obscur

Last Epoch

any indie with less than 5 devs.

Now you wonder why those games are hated.

There are bars, but no numbers associated with them, so you can only do an attack and then estimate based on how much of the bar disappears from your attack. Really just an amateurish and glaring oversight; a lot of them in this game.

It's called checklist because you tick a figurative box when making the game of copying all the latest gaming trends and filler content,

Which trends? What do trends have to do with the 'filler content' you're complaining about?

not because the in-game UI has a literal checklist.

That's exactly what you said it was though, that the side content was just a checklist of shit for you to do.
Are you a bot?

should there be a jeetdetector steam group like the deidetector one

There's no AK47 and ferraris in the game too, so that means its shit

If you need more information, than seeing how much damage you actually do, you got brain problems. If i do 10k and it only tickles that hp bar, i know im not where i should be.

Wouldn't have guessed, the game gives off some serious poojeet vibes

That's more than most JRPGs give you, they typically don't even have health bars and you can only guess, or occasionally spend a turn using something like Scan. Why are you such a dumb nigger? Why don't you just play video games?

uhh every game must be survival crafting sandbox where i can cut trees and make houses!

you can only do an attack and then estimate based on how much of the bar disappears from your attack

... Yeah, so? You're already in the battle at that point.

And because of the mechanics, you can defeat anything in the game regardless of your own stats/build.
Also they put a big red "DANGER!" on optional areas with bosses which are significantly more difficult at your current level.

first game with generic white male MC

one gajillion copies sold

Its that shrimple.

Fuck I dont understand how this wokeslop trannygarbage with ai music is even remotely popular when THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME just got a remake???

Obviously you can get a rough idea of it (after you've already wasted time starting combat), but it's just a really questionable exclusion, even moreso than the complete lack of journal/quest log.

I'm pretty sure that danger warning is just there in general, not respective to your level.

Is this game actually as good as the hype? I watched one of my buddies play it and it looked so slow and boring as a spectator. Every attack was like a 5-10s unskippable cutscene with a QTE to dodge or parry.
I'm sure its more engaging to actually play but I was practically falling asleep.

It just seems like the next metaphor refantazio that people glow up and call GOTY and the thing ever and it just turns out to be FOTM that no one touches after like a month

not respective to your level.

if your stronger then the area it goes away

It's respective to your level.

Yeah, it's really good.

and it looked so slow and boring as a spectator

It's extremely fast paced though, and the menus flow very well so if you know what you're doing ahead of time you can just zip through combat.

FOTM that no one touches after like a month

Why does everything have to be an eternal slopfest service game? Why can't a game just be played through and put away like they used to?

it looked so slow and boring

Go play and realize how retarded what you just said is

Fucking retard, almost every Jrpg has both, health bars and an optional scan function, quit spouting shit you don't have a clue about

Battles are actually really fast-paced if you want them to be, and have a good flow with the QTEs. It's mostly everything else that is mediocre.

Is this game actually as good as the hype?

Its a good game with fantastic music, which in my opinion music can make a break a game, no matter how fun it is. But the real reason people like it, is because with all these companies upping their games to $80, they released this for $50.

almost every Jrpg has both, health bars and an optional scan function

Yeah like Super Mario--
Or uhh I mean Final Fan--
Eerr uhhh Chrono Tri--
I mean uhhhhhhhh Shin Megami Ten--
Maybe Xenog--
Well uhhh
You know I'm sure they're out there. Surely you're not just a dumb nigger.

i despise zoomgroids with every fiber of my existence

this stupid faggot has played maybe a couple jrpg's in his life, the most recent being in the 90s, and has the fucking audacity to come attempt to speak on a topic he doesn't know the first thing about
kill yourself

I am curious to know what RPGs Anon Babble loves and why.

I like how you samefagged instead of actually responding to my post because you know you don't have an argument. >B-B-BUT POKEMON...!!!

B-B-B-BUT PERSONA...!!

Are you just underaged and only know Persona 5? Is that it?

the music isn't even slightly memorable though.

game for women and dandy fags

Demon's Souls, DOS2, New Vegas are the holy trinity.

samefagged

cope, you're just enough of a retarded faggot for multiple people to call you one. i've been playing jrpg's for close to 30 years, stop talking out of your ass you ignorant fuck

Why does everything have to be an eternal slopfest service game?

It doesn't

Why can't a game just be played through and put away like they used to?

It can.

But if we're putting a label on something of "best game of the decade", I've ever heard people say "it might be the best game ever made". When we get to that point, this "play it once and enjoy it then never touch it again" shit doesn't fly. If one of the game's defining characteristics is that people don't even want to play it anymore after you beat it, how can that be game of the year/month/decade/etc?

A game doesn't have to be live service slop (that exists for the sole purpose of milking thousands of hours from its players), to be replayable. It just has to be a good game that people want to experience again. If its not, that's fine, it just removes it from the levels of praise its being given because its showing it for what it really is - "just" a good game.

why do you even need numbers. Your damage isn't set in stone. If an enemy has 1000 health and your first attack did 500 damage you have no guarantee that the same attack will do 500 or more damage a 2nd time

A lot of these are lies

you sound like a battered wife, you alright?

Notice how you still don't have an actual response?

forgive me, retard-sama, but something as profoundly retarded as saying "most jrpg's don't have health bars" isn't even worthy of a response

Four posts later and still not an actual response. Damn, I'm starting to think you can't actually refute anything I said.

how the fuck did you come to that conclusion nigger

Every criticism of the game can be countered with this image

Damn you BTFO that dumb nigger

OP made a new thread after getting raped and gaped What makes someone act like this?

Were you expecting mindless drones to have standards?

Demon's Souls is not an RPG. It is an action game.

If one of the game's defining characteristics is that people don't even want to play it anymore after you beat it, how can that be game of the year/month/decade/etc?

What literal retardation are you afflicted with that makes playing a game and moving on to other games a "defining characteristic" of a game?
You don't have to keep playing a single game in perpetuity for it to be considered a good game, and putting a game down after beating it so you can play other things does not make it a bad game.

Fuck off with your zoomer mind disease shit.