In one of his “Cain on Games” videos, veteran programmer and creator of Fallout 1...

In one of his “Cain on Games” videos, veteran programmer and creator of Fallout 1, Tim Cain has gone on record praising Bethesda Softworks’ sequel to his 1997 classic.

Cain stated that when Fallout 3 came out it “blew him away” and “was perfect, in every way possible.”

Cain went as far as saying that Fallout 3 was the Fallout game “he wish he made”

”Fallout 3 deserved every Game of the Year award it won” Cain said, “I played it non-stop when it first came out, and I’ve replayed it dozens of times since. It’s really just that good.”

cain doesn't have an opinion on fallout 3, he has an axe to grind against a former employer and uses fallout 2 as an emblem of them to throw stones at whenever possible.

One of my most recent favorite RPG in terms of design principles was Fallout 3, and aside from the sense of freedom and exploration reward, there was one other outstanding reason – they turned almost every obstacle and hazard into an opportunity for reward for the player, which I thought was great. Simple examples of this include the ability to pick up and use mines in the environment and the fact dead-ends often had containers and boxes in them embedded in the rubble – this sounds minor, but it’s a way of maximizing gameplay that I appreciate.

- Chris Avellone, 2013

I respect Tim Cain's opinion even if I disagree with it
I didn't really like 2 either, though, much less New Vegas

Tim Cain

You mean the faggot that made The Outer Worlds?

but he criticized the humor and recycling of too many story elements from the earlier Fallout games.

lol even he hated emil's writing

He could make 50 shit games in a row and that wouldn't undo his legendary status for Fallout, Arcanun, Temple of Elemental Evil and Bloodlines
Show some respect

It's a team effort not just 1 guy you brainlet, the original story for 3 was supposed to be set 50 years after the bombs

Idk anon, as much as i like his older works I have to wonder exactly whats wrong with him if all he does now is make absolute garbage. Like did he just make kino before on accident? What changed in him to lead to this

This is extremely common with creatives of all types, and even more common with artists. Even reaching one hit wonder status is difficult. Maintaining consistency especially across decades is nearly impossible.

We're not talking about someone who has just "fallen off". We are talking about someone who went from 1 extreme to another in terms of quality.

Not really. Outer Worlds is a 4/10 at worst and unironically complex in its systems by modern first person RPG standards. That doesn't even come close to being on the other extreme, especially when you consider it's 1 game vs 4

anon, ive played the outer worlds dont try to gaslight me. There is no other rpg i have ever played that was so fucking creatively bankrupt and unfun. I had more fun with starfield, in fact probably twice as much, and starfield fucking sucks.

The worst part was the disguise system, [Sneak 15] and convince everyone that your disguise is still on

arcanum is shit, whats the appeal?

appeal to authority

Can't wait for the remaster to come out.

appeal to authority

That’s great, now tell me what do they eat?

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Fallout 3 is pretty good, if Bethesda stuck to that style with 4 it would have been good too.

Victorian fantasy word with all of the socio-political/economic things that that entails.

they eat?

Years old food filled with preservatives, food from traders and hunters. Your first few quest with Moira are about finding food and hunting. They also have a local water purifier.

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What traders and hunters are giving the entire town enough supplies to sustain itself?

Molerats, Radraoch and Mirelurk meat

entire town

all maybe 15 of them

it really is the best one, once the remaster adds Fallout 4's gunplay then 3 Remaster will be peak Fallout

I said "which hunters and traders", not what food are they giving them.

Wastelander hunter

These hunters are wastelanders who kill animals and sell their meat. They sell items such as mirelurk meat, yao guai meat, mole rat meat and dog meat They are often found in a group of three. One kills animals, and the other two carry and sell the meat. They have weapons such as .32 hunting rifles, and .32 pistols, or various knives.

fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Hunter_(Fallout_3)#Wastelander_hunter

well theres traders that visit the city and they are shown raising brahmin

they arent, the people in the town are hunting and trade helps supplement that

That says nothing about going to Megaton specifically. A town that size can't be sustained by people randomly deciding to head over and trade, they need a consistent food source.
When is this shown?

A town that size

You mean the 15 NPCs? You're asking dumb questions.

Do you even know how much food 15 people alone can go through in a week? Fallouts 1 and 2 never had this issue, why are you making excuses for 3?

Fallouts 1 and 2 never had this issue

What did the punks in Valdez eat?

I literally don't care. The game sucks. If you like it then either you have horrible taste or it was your first fallout game and you have intense nostalgia for it. Either way, I pity you.

tanker near a city

Gee I wonder.

You mean the handful of people who don’t specialize in food production and don’t have any kind of organized trade hub and function more as a ramshackle collective than any kind of organized trade group.

Years old food filled with preservatives

From the store no one went to?

food from traders and hunters

There aren’t enough traders and the town doesn’t have hunters

Your first few quest with Moira are about finding food and hunting

Meaning you’re the only person there that actually does any of that otherwise she would of asked them.

They also have a local water purifier.

Yes the run down purifier that’s leaking all over the town.

From the store no one went to?

yes

There aren’t enough traders and the town doesn’t have hunters

How many traders do they need to feed 15 people? The hunters are from all over the Waste who sell their meat to the local towns. You can find them outside of Megaton and Canterbury Commons

Meaning you’re the only person

Welcome to being the protagonist in a video game

Yes the run down purifier that’s leaking all over the town.

and there's an unmarked quest to fix them

it's a video game. they eat the food that the NPCs sell and that's enough because no one is starving to death

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Frankly speaking, there's nothing wrong with Fallout 3, especially as compared to everything else that was on the market at the time. It's a good game. It just has completely different priorities than Wasteland, Fallout, Fallout 2, or Van Buren had, or that New Vegas would later reintroduce. Sure, a lot of it doesn't make sense, sure a lot of it is pretty contrived, and it has barely anything beyond the superficial connecting it to the other Fallout games, but that doesn't make it bad in and of itself. Disappointing if that's not what you wanted, sure. But not bad. There hadn't been a game like Fallout 3 before, one that combined the freedom of a CRPG with the accessibility of a first person shooter, at least not one done well enough to become an instant hit. It struck a balance, and in doing so, it appealed to more people and captured more imaginations than ever because it made the things that made Fallout work in the first place click with people who didn't have the mindset or patience for it. That's neither good nor bad. Just different. There was still a lot of effort put in, it's still self evident that it's a well designed, well polished product in its context, but the identity of the series changed permanently because of it.

That's such a fucking stupid argument. Fallout new Vegas having fields is like some game having fingernail clippers and some autist comes in all 'how do they cut their nails?!?!' It's sad that this is all fallout neo vaginas have to bitch about.

Bro, do you realize how many toothbrushes a town like that must go through? Where are all the toothbrushes?!?!

YWNBAW.

I would fucking love it if god howard came out with fallout 3 remastered and he puts corn fields in it. It would probably double the 41%.