Marathon is getting rebooted

Just got off a long call with a contact of mine and this is probably hitting news websites next week. it would probably be next 48 hours but with all the shit going on with Polygon and Gamespot the journalists are distracted right now.

TL:DR

The reception to the Alpha has been a disaster

On Average 7 out of every 10 people that tried the Alpha dropped it after a single game

Influencers with communication lines to Bungie are all saying the same thing: "Delay it"

With Borderlands 4 and Ark Raiders getting such positive buzz and Marathon being compared to Anthem and Concord its very clear the current product will sink on release and Bungie needs a win.

The game is being pushed back to Summer next year

A PVE mode with bots and story cutscenes are being hurried through, don't expect Halo or Destiny, expect Brink but its all bots

Proximity chat is in, Item values is out

Currently up in the air now if heros will have abilities reworked or have them locked to certain weapon types. By the end of the alpha 90% of players were using void and a shotgun which broke the game entirely.

This was decided in the first 24 hours of the alpha as twitch views and player activity plummeted after people getting minutes of eyes on the unedited gameplay. They are just spitballing how to announce this and save face.

This was originally intended to replace Destiny as their "core pillar" years back when Tarkov got big, a lot more money has gone into Marathon than Destiny over the last 4 years and this cannot afford to fail.

Bungie actually listening to feedback for once

fake as shit

Sony really bought these guys lmao

I don't have enough faith in Bungie to believe any of this

The game is being pushed back to Summer next year

You mean right after gta 6 releases?

This sounds too reasonable to be true

GTA comes out in May, most normies (which GTA players are) will have moved on by July or whatever to the next Big Thing

By the end of the alpha 90% of players were using void and a shotgun which broke the game entirely.

HOLD THE FUCK UP.
isn't that the character that can go full invisible? and they let them equip shotguns?

are they fuckin' stupid??

have a successful franchise

instead of putting the money back into the game dump it into a shitty extraction shooter

it didn't work

Who could have seen this coming?

They bought a part of bungie if I remember correctly

add to that the nonexistent footstep noise

The hero shooter garbo was added late when a valorant guy took over. Now you know why all hero shooters build the weapons as well as abilities around each other. Shouldn't have got passed the drawing board phase.

Just got done sucking some dick at bungie. Nothing op said is true.

But why was bungie surprised that people dropped the alpha when in the private play test those same streamers told them they wouldn't play the game

This is GTA we’re talking about, it’s going to have a strangle hold on the wider audience until September if it keeps its May deadline.

let's spend more time and money on this disaster!

Gotta love Sony

tfw my friend's partner actually work at Bungie

could've crosschecked this and gotten some actual scoops

if my friend isn't such hard person to contact AND their relationship isn't in shambles

Welp

bungie

listening

LMAO

Probably a pig-headed executive who thinks they’ve got the next big trend and they just have to show it to people for it to succeed.

Doubt it, it will be the #1 thing for as long as streamers play it, when they move on to the next thing all normies will too

I play Tarkov occasionally

Absolutely loved Arc Raiders and is my most anticipated game

.1% interest in Borderlands unless it ends up being this amazing must play 11/10 game

I have less than zero interest in playing this goyslop of a game
0%
This game WILL flop.
I'll buy a PS5 and play GTA6 before I play Marathon

Unless you're rebooting it like Doom 2016, I don't fucking care.

Why the fuck can't they just make Apex Legends with that aesthetic instead of yet another shitty looter shooter (they always fail)?

With the amount of money they had they could've licensed GiTS. With cyberpunk theme they could've just done away with heroes and tied abilities into equipment like headsets, prosthetics, chips, shit that you could switch on the fly or at the base

What a massive missed opportunity

Bungie is gonna need a whole lot more than a single good game, they burned a lot of good will with destiny 2 in the last 3 years.

burned out players with a seasonal model

over priced expansions that were a coinflip if they were good

split the playerbase who didn't bother with the expansions

removed paid content

paid dungeons

double down on microtransactions

lay off half the studio

players lose all faith in bungo

even shillup lost faith

they are gonna have to operate on a loss for like a year just to get players back

friend's partner

this is important, ask your boyfriend's boyfriend.

battle royale

ugly

poor idea

We're never ever getting a good GitS game, it's the sad reality. Certainly not from an American or Japanese company, if anyone makes it has to be from a Euro studio.

bungo actually do something sensible

fake and gay

How's Marathon get more money than Destiny over the past 4 years when Marathon only has 3 maps? Not like those maps are extremely big either, the games are like 18 players.

Gun attachements gets destroyed when removed

Who ever though this was a good idea when gunporn is such a big part of these kind of games is beyond retarded

I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked up while coding and left it in as a "feature"

I don't think you know how much was scrapped and started over.

-Also Lightfall was largely made of scrapped Marathon maps.

It already looks exactly like Apex/Borderlands/Destiny etc, all those console shooters

Its literally all the same shit

its like they had a factory that just spits out the same generic artstyle over and over packaged as different product

They already lived in separate apartments, seems selfish asking about this irrelevant thing considering what they're currently going through
I also deliberately make their genders vague lol

M$ at some point considering buying bungerino, but after looking into their finances they bailed out because bungo were burning through a fuckton of cash without producing shit.
Bungie are known for producing fuckall content while acting like they're sweating their asses off. So I wouldn't be surprised if it's real.

This makes sense actually since they announced whole bunch of shit for Destiny recently

Why would they do that if their next game (which looks just like Destiny and is catered to exactly same console controller FPS autoaim normies) was about to come out as well

It should have been a single player campaign, not Extraction slop. The trailer looked good until the player set foot outside.

youtube.com/watch?v=ckI_m8bbXfw

we might see Bungie die before 343

Did anyone take all this bullshit as an excuse to try old marathon for the first time? Pretty solid set of games so far (just about to start game 3 of 3), although the enemy designs are all ugly garish shit. Like DOS garbage ugly. Everything is also named after unplayable scrabble hands. "The pfth of Lx`jorn fight the evil sbip slavers" etc etc.
And lol they sure lifted a cheeky slice of plots, ideas and names directly from these games for Halo. Im sure thats old as fuck info for most but its funny to see it first hand.

But a C suite guy heard vaguely of tarkov and thought it was "the next fortnites".

343i dies with practically every release, MS pumps&dumps 80% of devs each time.
Bungie died a long time ago, considering the house name means jack shit and devs are all that matters, and well, all relevant ones left long ago, just like Bioware.

Tbf it's pretty much confirmed that really early drafts of CE had Halo being a sequel to Marathon or something

And lol they sure lifted a cheeky slice of plots, ideas and names directly from these games for Halo. Im sure thats old as fuck info for most but its funny to see it first hand.

It's not really a coincidence that they did it considering the plot of Infinity.

Fake and gay, but would honestly be the smartest thing Bungie could do. They need to spend the next year building a dozen maps so their game doesn't have a paid release with 3 maps, immediately killing it, and allowing them to have time to actually write the fucking story which they admitted they haven't even fucking WRITTEN yet.

What if... Bungie was never a good studio and Halo 1-3 were just flukes?

All the management and shareholders at Bungie know that the company is done for, they're just gonna cut and run

expect Brink but its all bots

Halo baby hasn't played Myth, ONI, Marathon, nor PID

inb4 is a roguelite + extraction

lol, they're behind me and panicking. I dont get why they can't get me if they know who i'm.

Unless you're rebooting it like Doom 2016, I don't fucking care.

This.

youtube.com/watch?v=2D8VCM2cMAo

Hows those versions of classic marathon on steam?

They can listen to all the feedback they like. This game needs done from the ground up which is another 5 years minimum. Even concept art needs to be torn up and burnt.
Sony should just write this off now.

I don't care if they add a fucking story. The very idea that they would dare to even attempt to release it without one, let alone they're trying to make it into a hero-shooter, is completely at odds with what Marathon is. They can go straight to hell.

another imminent flop by yet another American AAA company

Sony should be used as a case study on how a foreign company gets American-ized and goes to shit immediately. Get fucked lmao.

Game is this generation's Brink.

this cannot afford to fail.

very well

Honestly believable but I won't lose sleep if it isn't. This game is getting delayed, there's no denying that. I got into the alpha and shit was misery.

I dont know about that. Cockstar knows 6's online mode is going to get massive traction whether it releases in May or gets delayed a few months like 5 and RDR2. And even then how would a game thats gotten almost no marketing compete with a game that everyone has been waiting for since 2013 even if its a few months old? Bungie is going to fumble this game whether this news is true or not.

is this game cyberpunk?

decide to prank Sony

start multiple new projects to inflate value

remove devs from destiny to man these new projects

destiny is the only thing actually generating revenue

lightfall tanks in part because missing talent

final shape underperforms because people just didn’t buy after lightfall

He sure got Sony good

Oops, forgot

side projects collapse

Youre cyberpunk.

kisses kitten on the lips

Sony shut down Japan Studio and purchased Bungie

Everything is also named after unplayable scrabble hands.

heh

Drunken Russians able to put together some of the most detailed maps in an FPS

Bungo can only slap together 3 maps, all of which look like a generic space swamp with flat textured assets lazily plopped down

Bungie even made their own not-GITS game

I'm pretty sure their analysts concluded live service is zero sum, so the point of it being an "extraction shooter" was to muscle in on a segment they full is underexploited rather than have to compete against (and inevitably fail versus) major established titles.

the problem with marathon:

they greenlit it when they saw the success of tarkov

don't understand why tarkov is popular

don't understand the slow methodical gameplay that creates tension and the gun autism

half ass a concept together with an old IP

proceed to build half of a tarkov clone and combine it with half of a bad shooter

several years late to the party

while simultaniously trying to FOMO battlepass cashshop the game up to the eyeballs to maximise player engagment

and make BUNGIE do it despite having failed destiny for years

you can't make this shit up

Why does the in game engine look like a reskinned destiny 2 PS4 game?

I don't care about this fake post but I don't feel even a little bit bad about them producing another monumental fail like concord after raping the Marathon IP. Also, they didn't bother getting the backstory written because they knew this will implode immediately as they're releasing a soulless cash-grab "game" just as other anticipated titles like GTA6 and Borderlands4 are getting released. Rest in piss, former shell of what used to be Bungie studios.
Also, the Marathon trilogy is available on steam for free, for all noobs that are curious why the old-timers are so pissed about them necroing this IP without a passionate team of devs behind it.

Anon the normies have been playing GTAV for 12 years. 2026, 2027, and 2028 will be dominated by GTA, every time it updates it will be a huge event that eclipses everything else. Launching a few months after GTA6 is honestly worse than launching closer, since you might clash with GTA onlines launch (which won’t be with campaign).

you were dead a thousand times. Hopeless IPs successfully won. A franchise long dead, grafted to mechanics your builders did not understand. You follow the trends, fitting into an infinite pattern. Yours to bend to, to submit to and suffer. Now, in the quantum moment before the release, when sales amount to nothing. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know what you are. You are Bungie.

Every extraction shooter copy:

Oh so a big part of tarkov is looting stuff for money? Ok just put a bunch of random shit in the game and slap a sell value on it.

And they don’t consider the loot in Tarkov can be:
Gear for your PMC
Millions of gun parts
Different types of medical items, drugs, food or water
Items for hideout upgrades
Items for crafting things
Items for bartering
Items for stash space efficiency
Quest items
With the majority of items able to be sold to other players.
Not saying they have to copy Tarkov (Hunt is an example of an extraction game with no real looting) but just putting dollar signs on random objects that you sell ain’t the right way to do it.

you know people are still playing gta online, right?

oh tarkov has an inventory? just make a boring one item = one inventory slot system

finding your favourite scope in a tarkov raid is great. What exactly are you supposed to care about finding in arc raiders/marathon?

oh man a green quality zorpy fabric!

I PLAYED IN MARATHON'S CLOSED ALPHA TEST, AMA

Is it true Aztecross prefers older women?

How big are Glitch and Blackbird's asses?

Why did bungie cord around my balls spill printer ink all over my tarkov clone?

for arc, blueprints, high level weapons, and fruits to feed the chicken

How many hours have you sunk into the game? Did you enjoy it from the beginning or did it take a while to "get good"? How much would you pay for this kind of game? Did you play the original Marathon games back then?

Not going to ask you a question but I still gotta ask what the fuck is this aesthetic? I get these are supposed to be mass produced cyborg bodies but they seem highly impractical for a combat environment, especially in a universe with the Pfor

They need to completely replace every character they have with something hot/sexy/cool instead.

The "Modern audience" never fucking existed and the sooner these chucklefucks fire all the millenial moron designers and writers they hired, the better. These androgynous ugly characters are never going to sell your game. People want either characters they can connect with, or characters they can fuck. That's it. Deliver this and get money. If you really want to make your DEI pink haired trans artist happy, agree to add their weird character everyone will hate and never play, and bury it, but you better have the following on the cover art and in marketing material:

Big tiddy goth girl

Big tiddy furry girl

Cute loli with a big gun

Lithe ninja assassin girl

Hot german woman with all of those 10/10 features people actually want across the world

An indian chick for the hindu chasers

A latina with a fat ass

NO BALD BLACK WOMEN

NO BALD ANY WOMEN

BALD IS NOT BEAUTIFUL FUCK OFF.

This will sell your game. Throw a few big muscle dudes in there for the faggots and a twink for the faggot that wants a twink and you can target that audience too. Maybe a Cole train "HURR FOOTBALL N' BOOTY MY NIGGA YEET" black guy for the 9% of black players out there.

DONE. MAKE MONEY. That's it.

Extraction shooter more like shooting yourself in the foot.

Or how about following what Marathon actually is you fuckwit?
The answer to the artstyle problem isn't to double down on retardation but on the "based" side of the spectrum, it's to keep to the style that people did enjoy once upon a time.

funny if true

More like extracting yourself from the revenue stream.

you can succeed but the genre will never have mainstream appeal, it's inherently repulsive for the average casual gamer that values their time

How many hours have you sunk into the game?

I had to check my steam account, I played it for around ~25 hours until calling it quits.

Did you enjoy it from the beginning or did it take a while to "get good"?

Honestly I think I enjoyed it way more from the beginning than in the last 5 hours. I mainly blame the "unknown" for that, because the gameplay loop itself felt extremely stale after a good 10h+.

I never felt like I "got good." I constantly felt at a natural disadvantage because I decided to play with Pad on the PC, and for some god-given reason they gave Mouse & Keyboard players aim assist. The other thing is, firefights feel completely imbalanced due to the "shield charge/shield slot"-system.
When you go in unequipped you only have 1 small Shield bar, but if you put many hours in and harvested a lot of good gear, you might have 3-4 shield bars. Fights felt as if one party (3-4 bars) just constantly had Halo's super-shield equipped, completely unbalanced.
It's kind of like OP said, I remember in my survey I also heavily advised the devs to delay Marathon.

How much would you pay for this kind of game?

I don't think I'd pay anything really. This was not this "new-age extraction shooter"-experience it was advertised as. I don't think charging $40 would be egregious, sometimes the game was fun, but it is certainly stupid, considering other competitors of the same genre are for free.

Did you play the original Marathon games back then?

I did not, but I will definitely look more into them.

pls gib Glitch waif

normal dick or girl dick?

KEK I hope its real

Thanks for the answers and the confirmation of what I had already suspected about the game. I got a little bit hyped after seeing the pre-rendered teaser videos that advertised some gritty shooter that involved looting corpses but I was utterly disappointed after seeing actual gameplay, which looked like a neutered / censored version (downed opponents turn into hand-bags, ffs).
I personally don't like the complete lack of gore in a game that is supposed to be a simulation of a brutal fight about resources. It's probably done to get into the Chinese market but it's just not fun for me. The art style looks a bit like they decided to declare the placeholder-graphics as final graphics due to their suits pushing them to release the game to quickly cash-in before this game dies the inevitable death due to much better coming out soon-ish.
Keep in mind that the original games are rather dated by now on many levels but I think they're still worth playing at least once to see one of the biggest games on Mac back then. The steam workshop has some mods like wide-screen support and high-res textures that are highly recommended as the original, low-res pixel-art is looking extremely pixelated on our current monitors.

OG marathon was never known for its visual style, though. Moreso the lore

You’ve gone from calling out a lack of hot females in games to demanding they're shoved into every corner of every game. Actually legitimately NEEDING sexual stimulation from a vidya game is degenerate and pathetic.

how do you even save this trainwreck? This and Fairgame$ are a lost cause.

The time to save this game is long past. The amount of spent resources and the state of the deliverables indicates that this "game" is a money laundering scheme.

If you want money you add characters people will want to fuck. Don't be a fucking retard.

I miss Hyenas, despite the tranny aesthetics and characters it was actually a fun shooter.

Because it wouldn't sell for shit. Are you fucking dumb?

Take a note from Valve. TF1 had an ugly, generic art style. Valve wasn't retarded and realized they'd need to set themselves apart if they wanted to sell TF2 since the market was getting more competative.

Old marathon looks generic, bland, boring. New marathon looks like they hired every DEI fucktard from Concord and injected them with even more HRT drugs.

The real solution is what everyone already knows is the answer. Beefcake dudes and hot/cute girls with iconic personalities and looks. Done. Marvel Rivals, Every gacha game, overwatch originally. There are still people drawing porn of OW characters. That's success right there.

implying they will fix anything

No but they'll burn an additional couple dozens of millions which makes the demise of Bungie more likely when it eventually does come out. That's a good thing.

That's just your opinion, I for one really like the art style they're going for. If only the game underneath wasn't a boring looter shooter it'd be fantastic.

The kind of shit they should do feels so obvious to me maybe for lots of others too

Make a coop campaign

Too hard?

Stratify maps by entry gear value; you can launch tougher map variants which have different times of day and weather. There needs to be a clear progression path from map to map and a way of limiting the balance variance between players. Each map variant should lead into the next tier

Custom characters scrap the hero concept separate the skills to lootable gadgets. You can use multiple characters per season with their own progression. If one gets reset you can fall back on another. Even better if you give players a stop loss tier as they progress the story for each season; monthly would make the most sense as each month passes you drop the new story content on a map variant and people have better chances of completing the season in time as long as they complete the story quests.

Build an actual identity to the core gameplay there has to be one universal unique mechanic to the game. A fucking sidestep would be enough it has to be something substantial though.

Lower TTK. Visible armor/gear. Helmets protect ops from being killed in one shot.

Unique maps to close out seasons like Labs

They are just spitballing how to announce this and save face.

If any of this is true, all they have to say is that "apha went poorly but we listened to players and know we have a long way to go. Our aim was drastically off so we're delaying the game to give it the overhaul it needs and not just paltry number tweaks."

Publishers don't seem to realize that when they try to "save face", consumers can read their dishonesty and disingenuousness clear as day. Their expectations sink lower than they already were because they know damn well the devs still plan to try to sucker them some other way and that the publishers don't understand the fundamental issues with the game.

Thanks for the answers and the confirmation of what I had already suspected about the game.

Your welcome.

downed opponents turn into hand-bags, ffs

this also pissed me off, it's extremely lazy, which for a game like Marathon, which announced itself with stunning visuals, is just disappointing. From what I understood regarding lore ("Runners" losing their humanity, dying so often you finally grow tired of death, succumbing to instrumentality), it's like a slap in the face. I suggested they stick to what they did in the teaser, make dying players gush their goo out, and in order to revive players, the player either injects them with new goo OR uploads their consciousness back via plugging a USB-Stick into them kek.

Graphics

That's the one thing I am not so concerned about. I heavily believe that they WILL get the aesthetic right. For example, in the survey I filled out, they heavily explained that "besides the graphics, does the gameplay loop work?" To me, that's a clear indicator that Bungie will improve on Marathons graphics in the future. I imagine they will improve on a lot of things anyway, I will give them the benefit of doubt on some things considering this is an Alpha.
What was concerning to me weren't some bugs or the lack of graphics, it was that the very core gameplay loop they were focusing on, wasn't encouraging me to play more at all.

I'm starting to believe might really have insider-info, too many things adding up.

that won't happen, if they operate at a loss that long, Sony will dismantle them, they are already a fucking big problem for them as it is.

they forgot about that entirely, the gunporn aspect, these guns look like SHITTY kids toys.

everything really looks like shitty kids toys from Temu, really.

they should have just made it an Arena Shooter and not an extraction shooter, it would have been a lot more successful but no

assuming this is the truth, how much more money is playstation willing to lose before taking bungle out behind the shed with the shotgun?

they already likely are planning it, their going to probably take direct control of Destiny,cancel Marathon,and oust all the retards currently running the C-Suite, I cant see them just accepting continuing Bungie how it is

I really hope this dogshit kills Bungie.

way worse, this game has way more money and pressure on it to succeed when its obvious it won't.

Brink "could have" this never could, Brink at least looked like a coherent fucking arty/scenery even if it wasn't pretty.

retarded larp
at least that what I'm hoping for
I want the game to fail so hard
I want to see bungie burn

Same
I want Destiny 2 to shut down

I don't believe this. They are either going to double down on their own retardation or scrap marathon entirely.

The ps2 sac game is actually really good

be ceo

call devs

"make it fun and cool instead of lame and gay"

hang up

save the company

its literally that easy

doom is pure garbage

How does Bungie feel getting utterly mogged by Arc Raiders?

expect Brink but its all bots

So, it's exactly like BRINK is what they're trying to say

devs you were required to hire to qualify for blackrock loans and good boy points on social media have multiplied by 5x over the past several years completely erasing everyone else

they believe the game is already fun and cool, not lame and gay

if you fire them, your company gets defamed and tarnished all over the internet

full government investigation occurs if its in California just like Blizzard

and how will Sony and the shareholders take that?

they would do that if the CEO isn't some soulless company hoping gremline like 99% of CEO's.

all the people who make real decisions are lefty fucktards, all of them, its why you can't fix the Western video game industry, they are all artsy faggot leftoid trustfund fucktards.

Also Lightfall was largely made of scrapped Marathon maps

Is that true? Lightfall was years ago.

further proof sony deserves to crash and burn
they're just too retarded to live

live service dead on arrival

Marathon started development nearly 6 years ago. You never wondered how they pulled neomuna out their ass while working on the final shape? a wierd cyberpunk city that didnt match destiny at all?

lets just burn sony money for 5 more years

what a retard

I hope this is true the alpha rlly sucked

I mean this was what they thought was the absolute best shit they had to show on this game.

"going back to the drawing board" isn't going to do shit, you need a fundamental change in staff, art direction especially, its just not gonna happen.

cool, there's still hope for Concord and Morbius then

nah, they'd Suck dick for cock.

youtube.com/shorts/gqHcfdYgNnQ

Nah the way to do it is to accuse someone high up of sexual misconduct, then you have an excuse to bin the art style and boring gameplay because you don't wanna be associated with that guy anymore.

I can completely see this happening as the reception has been terrible and Sony just got off the haymaker that was Concord, but I tend to not believe any leaks off of Anon Babble. This seems like just a guy betting on a delay since the Alpha is done and if they're gonna delay it then it has to be soon. However if it happens within the next 24-48 hours I'll admit OP was right.

the art style and shit is from the coven of retarded leftoids that premates every fucking inch of the industry in America and Canada.

you couldn't get them to make it cool if you put a gun to their head.

game looks like a roblox version of what is shown in the cinematics.

Neomuna is made off of reworked Beyond Light assets, the Braytech ones, in fact, Braytech is the art style that most closely matches NuMarathon.

And guess who designed Bray exo-science for Beyond Light? Joseph Cross

Marathon has looked like this since forever, art-style wise at least, in terms of graphics, the Blender renders as well as the original trailer are closer to that 'Graphic Realism' look that they wanted for it.
Asset creation, real asset creation I mean, goes very deep into development, which is why the current Marathon model still remains unfinished.

The game only hade a speudo graphical reboot between its original trailer and now.

enjoy marathons reveal and alpha

figure jump into destiny 2 to get a feel for modern bungies design

that new player experience

I have never played a video game before where you legitimately do not know what is happening.

Doubt the authenticity of this but I want to believe because it serves Sony right for chasing the FPS hero shooter trend so hard. Remember when Sony used to invest in smaller creative projects like Tokyo Jungle that were never going to sell gangbusters but at least some creative intent behind it? Games churned out to chase trends because Sony's competitor owns the top FPS game series in the world doesn't sit right with me. Not when Sony could be doing what people liked them for doing 20 years ago.

forgot to add that the cinematics dont look that great either so not sure why the actual game looks so much worse.

This is the new meta. Make a dogshit product so you keep getting paid to reinvent it because your handlers (in this case sony) are just as retarded than you, if not more. Remember Sony spent $3 billion on this.

That kind of makes sense if Neonuna was meant to be Tau Ceti.

tranny.

Their only other option is to release it, it flops, and they Concord it. Sony spent billions on buying Bungee and they have not even remotely gotten their money back. They either believe in their investment or they write the entire thing off.

they could save millions by shelving it this moment, and not releasing it like Hyenas.

but they won't.

Yeah but this is Bungee dude. The creators of Halo... the creators of Destiny the game that kind of invented looter shooter GaaS shit! Just a few more months bro, just a few more million bro...

Play Warframe, it's better

Thats because you are going from a scuffed remake of the first mission in destiny 1 to a weird sequel to its first zone to suddenly being dropped in the latest like season 29 of seasonal content with most of the story between then and now removed from the game. Destiny is a actual scam.

Reminds me of the the days I played Mirage in that garbo game, Apex Legends.

a lot more money has gone into Marathon than Destiny over the last 4 years

How? The game is pretty bland in perceived production values. Or is it one of those "we paid our employees their salaries the last four years so we're gonna count those as production expenses".

Speaking of, 1999 actually reminds me a lot of Marathon.

with most of the story between then and now removed from the game

This was a worry with Marathon, even more so because of the live service stuff.
Everyone knows they were going to rotate maps per season, so catching up with story would mean going through hours of YouTube lore analysis.

1999 is extremely silly, you get attacked by an infested boy-band and there is a dating minigame(not with the boy-band)

They spent 2.5 billion for Bungie. Sony could have made 25 games with a 100 million dollar budget.Jim Ryan destroyed PlayStation.

Valorant devs

I just want to try it. My wife got a code but I didn't. Fag shit. We ended up playing ARC Raiders instead since we both got invites. It is really fun but definitely prefer Bungo gunplay.

probably that, most of the Western Industry is make-work faggots reaping 150k a year salaries to ultimately tank the entire company into the ground.

then they are immediately hired without a hitch to another.

NO BALD ANY WOMEN

The Wraith bald skins used to be one of the most popular and wanted in the early days of Apex Legends. So, it happened at least one.

Bingle is dead
I'm one of the idiots that like the visual style, and I even think the cahracter designs are great... targets to shoot. But going the pvpve route? And as a 'hero' shooter no less where the players's options are different flavors of absolute faggots?
This shit is dead in the water no matter what they do.
There's no way for them to recover, and while the game desperately needs a pve mode, Marathon enthusiasts are want for something built from the ground up, and going out on a limb, are the sorts to want to play literally faggot 'heroes', and anyone else doesn't give once single shit about Marathon.
Interest is in the lore and atmosphere, not insufferable characters. Could have invited a new audience that would have ate up some slop on exposure to some underground boomer shooter lore
What they delivered is an about-face to anything the brand meant twenty years ago. Reboot? Reboot that shit into the dumpster.
Rebooting into a completely different game doesn't work, I will disregard any examples to the contrary. At least Nulara games are still technically in the same genre of single player adventures. Marathon no longer means anything. Cool lore? Atmospheric? What am I supposed to expect from something wearing the brand? About the same as Final Fantasy. It means fuck all, and so naught but fucks will be given.

Thanks for attending my ted talk

explain to me the merits of this NPC enemy design.

Low poly means more grass:)

I bet you five million dollars that they have way more mesh triangles than they look like they have and are not actually low poly in render and mesh.

which means they are ugly, square and also eat up your GPU still.

This is the best part
3.6 billion.
Sony wishes this would be another Concord.

this game looks like the most bright lego shit I've ever seen put into a supposedly serious dystopian game.

It just looks really fucking crap, like the entire game is using placeholder assets for everything but decided to ship

shooting them dead is fun
Give me a game world populated by the dumbest, literally gayest shit, built on the premise of slaughtering all of it and you have the start of a fun game.
It is not a necessary element. But it is a fun one on its own.

this is levels of cope I never imagined.

Is any of the old guard of Bungie still there?

serious dystopian game.

yes. Look around you and the enshitification of everything is manifesting as rendering our public spaces into grade school class rooms. This is EXACTLY what a dystopian future would look like, with simple shapes, and colors so even objective retards could have any hope at all of operating the machines necessary to sustain society.

absolutely not lol.

its all the biggest diverse cast of faggots you've ever seen, always giddy to show you the next trans flag unlockable in a vid doc.

if things get that advanced, people wouldn't even be involved with the process, retard.

once you get to the "harvesting entire planets for resources and building Dyson Spheres" human labor is a worthless, everything would be harvested, shipped, and packaged and unpacked and processed by machines.

You misread my original post then.
In no way do I have any hope at all of marathon being anything other than a complete disaster. On the contrary, I hope it is an even bigger disaster than any of us can anticipate, BECAUSE of how this game has perverted Marathon.
All I am saying is the visual style and characters - as targets - are the least offensive attributes of the production as it stands.

Just make it look like it's from the franchise that spawned Halo. The art style needs to have that DNA in it, it needs to be recognizable for that. I don't want an art style that has a bluesky account and self-diagnosed mental illnesses in its bio.

I understand they're probably trying to distance themselves because 343 has the Halo rights, but that's a mistake.

Bungie is going to be the Bioware of this decennium

Ill be honest, Halo is outdated as fuck, its perfectly passable, but its nothing special.

and I mean when it was good, it was just passable.

the Nips are the only ones that push the boundries on style sad as it is. and I guess also the French now lol with E33.

Ill be honest

People who preface what they say with statements like this are retarded.

Nah, it's fully owned by Sony. Bungie fucking raped Sony's ass.

This could have been a really good episode in LOVE, DEATH & ROBOTS or Secret Level, but that's about it.

cool, side tracking from talking about my point, that's fine.

its still true, Halo was always just okay, its beloved becuse it was fun, not because the style was slick.

It's really embarrassing when you see people that want PvP games to be turned into PvE. It's essentially admitting you are a low test little pussy in public for the world to see.

Spoken like a true zoomer.

Everything listed won't fix the game. It's tainted. They need to rebuild it from the ground up. Not make bandaid/superficial fixes.

harvested, shipped, and packaged and unpacked and processed by machines.

for... what? If your dystopia completely eschews fleshy idiots in all forms no one will give a shit. You're beyond dystopia firmly into irrelevance for a product meant to sell to fleshy idiots.
Rest assured, bungie did no better job than you. But the aesthetics aren't where it fell short.

PvP is ironically more artificial in 2025 than PvE.
Would you believe that Call of Duty and Fortnite adjust hitboxes and artificially change ping to adjust for win rates?
That’s without even getting into people cheating.

It’s not worth playing PvP games in 2025 because it’s a massive fog wall. You can’t know what’s real and what isn’t.

For a shooting game, the shooting certainly feels like shit.

put pink gato on the game

make it a her and playable and most importantly sexo

game gets saved

Sounds like you're the guy in every friend group who immediately tilts when he dies and bitches about netcode for the next hour while everyone else silently prays for you to have a deep vein thrombosis and die.

Pussy excuses from a pussy.

dark darker got ruined by pve shitters

trying to play high end PVP in Destiny 2 (Trials of Osiris) was a total nightmare.

I'm an upper tier player, it didn't really matter, I would get pitted against streamer sweats and cheaters like no one's business.

worst part is there was so much cheating you would get paranoid as fuck.

dude you’re a pussy bro

gets fucked sideways by EOMM algorithms and Deep Learning bots

The artstyle in halo is still one of the very best ever conceived in video games especially given the graphical limits it had to work with, you actually have brainrot

People who dont hold this opinion, don’t play PvP games or modes.
Every game is full of cheating and now companies train bots on player aggregate data.

Cheat dev here. Don't play heavy PVP multiplayer games if you value your time and sanity. We will shit on you just for fun. I'm bored of destroying people in Tarkov but I will be in Marathon if it comes out lol

its just rote realism till you see Covenant forces and then its sleek chrome shit.

Western studios do this all the time.

Halo is also a spiritual sequel to Marathon, but then you can’t just make Marathon Halo and come full circle.

You need Marathons goofy art style to differentiate it a bit. It just needs to be toned down for young men.

If they're trying to tune out all discussion about the character designs as "white noise", Concord-style, they're going to fail.

them

you're part of the problem

this people in this thread will call me a retard and paranoid but they didn't play during busy trial weekends.

getting sniped 0.1% into the match through all the walls, people having infinite super, people having infinite health.. ect.

or up agains tthe literal 0.2% best players in the world 4 matches into a card, every time, like its a joke ON YOU.

You don't like the walking hitbox man?

youtube.com/watch?v=2D8VCM2cMAo

Damn this shit slaps

LOOK MOM I WATCH MANDALORE ON YOUTUBE IM A BIG FAN OF MARATHON XD

pvp games use bots all the time you retard. titanfall 1 and 2, pubg did that and so does new cod

The overwhelming majority of people who buy games will never play competitive multiplayer. There is so little money in people who will that you need to win the entire industry just to survive. You'd think the evidence of the wreckage of all the expensive failed multiplayer games would be enough to teach devs not to chase this dragon, but they keep doing it. Over and over again.

That's really sad... fortnite used to feel incredibly intense, then they added bots (a lot of bots) and the world feels empty now.
Meaningless kills vs. braindead ai just makes everything feel cheap

The Fortnite money is too much. The problem will always be that there can only be one.

There can only be 10 or so major online games at any one time, and everyone already has their darlings.

You’re misunderstanding. There are two tiers of bots in Fortnite: recognisable bots and hidden ones trained on player heatmap data.

Fortnite made three times as much money as GTA:Online and even then GTA:O still made ~10 billion over the past decade. Even getting a tenth of that will be more revenue than whatever single-player game they could've shat out.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they had hidden bots with behavior based on heatmap data.
But a human-like bot is useless if it actually has a k/d ratio over 1.0 (since the whole point of bots is to die to humans) so there's a very low limit on how well they can be allowed to play.
Like, epic could easily make a bot that cranks 90s, makes quick edits and does max damage pumps, but it would be totally pointless and counterproductive.

yeah this sounds too self aware to be real.
You really think these people congratulating the smell of their own farts will really go back to the drawing board on a project like this?

At most they will launch it in the state is in and updates will roll as time goes on.

sony always making outdated decisions has been a thing for years and not just games their entire movie devision has the same issue of chasing after trends while they are going down and are finished and they always, ALWAYS pick the wrong directors for every movie that needs to be big. Old slow boomer/japanese boomers are to slow to react.. sames as sony and nintendo and other japanese companies are right now jumping big on dei diversity stuff just as it is getting kicked in the ass in the rest of the world.. they are all sooo slow to react and always late to any and every western trend they chase.

Item values is out

I remember shroud criticizing them for attaching direct values to each item and half the chat went apeshit saying they should keep it. Interesting.

Sony pictures actually managed to snipe Zelda license tho.

really? ok thats really surprising

The capacity for successful game studios to self-sabotage apropos of nothing truly astounds me.

This was originally intended to replace Destiny as their "core pillar" years back when Tarkov got big, a lot more money has gone into Marathon than Destiny over the last 4 years and this cannot afford to fail.

There's just no way they looked at EFT and said - "Yeah, let's move from our relatively successful franchise and bruteforce ourselves into a niche market by making a game that's nothing like the game people play extractors for".

Remake it as Lethal Company with BoBs

nintendoeverything.com/the-legend-of-zelda-movie-release-date-revealed-coming-in-2027/

Mario movie made huge bux, jews when smell money act fast.

Maybe they should reboot Marathon to be a new Marathon game instead of realistic Roblox extraction mode

how the fuck could this replace destiny when it's neither pvp or pve?
anyways, nice bait.

this, the allure is too much, all failures don't matter if you eventually hit.

the industry over here is really a fucking nightmare, all are trying to hit it bigger than big, and have no reason "not" to try, problem is, they don't have any talent to work with, people shit on them for their talentless fag art liberal shitters, but its all they have, a sea of them.

And vagene?

No intestines coming out, no buy

so who the fuck is this guy

I assume he means replace Destiny as their source of income.

Proximity chat is in.

Just lost all interest.

Shotguns

Don't include them. No sniper rifles either. No rocket launchers.

Make characters sprites so they aren't downgraded. Use very low res for world. Use better lighting at least for some sections.

Get rid of chat entirely.

Maybe play as a bot. Some spammed enemy. Compete to play as main characters. Main characters overpowered. Get single player sequences. Spend what you've earned fighting unlocking areas. Time spending it anyway. Play to enjoy looking around. Pay for it with combat, more earned online against other people, or with them against bots.

SP story is just you're catered for. As a main char, a hero, while as one live a good life, interesting, excess.

Influencers with communication lines to Bungie

Daily reminders those ''people'' are the ones behind the failure of Marathon. Literally every streamer was talking about ''Yeah extraction shooters are the next big thing'' in the Marathon event when they were called for recording footage in the studio. DrLupo, the guy who got caught cheating while playing chess was in communication with Bungie for 6 fucking years. He literally made Marathon. He had more say in that game than actual game devs. Bungo also fired the original Marathon director(who also worked on Bungie for 20 years since Halo CE) who wanted to make the game more of a traditional extraction shooter without hero shit and hired the director of Valorant which turned the game into a hero/extraction shooter hybrid. They literally brought this to themselves.

TlDR: Fuck streamers, behead streamers, they are out of touch with the reality and fuck trend chasing executives who doesn't understand game design and thinks they can just copy whatever's popular and make something good.

Proximity chat is in.

Just lost all interest.

Get rid of chat entirely.

What's that, you don't want random people online to be able to tell that you're a pajeet?