This guy slaps your ass and hands you an egg, what do you do?
Deltarune
Dunno, Watch If It Ever Hatches Or Something?
Yeah sure, you're the one to talk about eggs hatching.
I was bitching about how fanmade Kris portraits look shit so I made my own in paint
Huh, I think I can live with it if this was in the game.
I have a feeling that Kris would lose a lot of appeal in the fandom if they actually talked directly
Why is he such a whore?
Hopefully there'll be a part where we'll possess someone else, like perhaps Noelle or the discarded vessel, and we can get to see Kris more directly.
The powers that be made Ralsei sexy on purpose to prey on Kris's latent attraction to his brother. That's why Kris is so distant from him. They realize Ralsei is existentially a honeypot, even if he himself doesn't know it.
You say that like Kris wasn't getting railed daily by Azzy before he went to college.
Eh?
Even if that's true, Asriel is still not around and it's not something you speak about openly, so Kris has to keep it all inside. Even if Kris doesn't act upon Asriel, the amount of tension they feel around Ralsei would probably still make them easier to manipulate
*act upon Ralsei*
it looks...tiny for some reason
can you put them next to Susie's?
lore accurate
Is this why Jevil was imprisoned?
you found an ice-e pain chart
at 0 he's happy
at 10 he's happy and sweating
WTF man??? When I clicked the "YOU ACCEPT EVERYTHING" terms of service, I thought it was just about accepting meta stuff. I didn't know I was consenting to having my ass slapped too.
Fuck you and your stupid esoteric consent forms.
Pretend I had no idea it was him and say "Huh who did that? Who slapped my ass? It's not funny guys cut it out."
I am in Spain, without the P
Fun fact - you could've just refused the terms. It wouldn't have made your ass non-slapped but at least you would've had moral license to be indignant about it.
Not bad, could work as a light world icon or something.
Scale this up a bit and it's the best kris portraits i've seen
Fuck, I just realized I can't remember an important thing. Do we have blue and orange attacks in Deltarune already?
Why yes I will stay True Pacifist until the bitter end, how could you tell?
Personally I'm gonna pog out when he hits us with that "Greetings, partner"
new pope
birth name robert
born in the us
is this what Toby was doing this whole time?
But you robbed yourself of true Undertale experience. This game's message is about how you need to spend several hours humping walls to see five new lines of text.
...
Heh
Heh, it ain't rape if it's willing
You're seriously mistaken on who the rapist is here
He looks evil, i understand why they all stay away from him
GO AHEAD AND PRETEND I DON'T EXIST, IN THE END IT IS YOU WHO IS INCORRECT
I want him to bully me
I was prepared to shittalk but this isn't that bad. Certainly better than Deltatraveler's. I don't get the eye thing, though.
I suppose it makes sense if the eye was red, but I guess it's to fit in with the usual color palette for Lighter portraits.
Orested breaking as the silent protagonist and talking is one of the coolest moments of Live A Live, which is an inspiration for Toby. I can see him making it work.
Holy fuck he's such a good villain, unironically one of gamings best, the hug with Pogo they added was perfect
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you have instantly made me 100% certain that kris will talk
Go schizo crazy and become a manlet.
I can smell this image
It would be cool if Kris was along with Jevil in being one of the few characters to actually talk and not just do via text. Like imagine them doing a whole ass monologue.
based on the concept art
smells like apples right?
looks up Deltatraveler's portraits out of curiosity
Holy shit why does DeltaTravelers Kris look look like a edgy e-girl? The old one was ass but like do they look like this now?
bottom right is my reaction to this image
Because Deltraveler Kris acts as a mentally ill teenager girl that puts they/them pronouns in her twitter bio together with free Palestine. Also Noelle and the creator of the game are troons
Noelle
What the fuck do you mean. Do they canonically bring up Noelle's giant deer horsedick in the fangame or some shit.
Those Kris sprites are honestly the least of DeltaTraveler's problems, but they do still suck though.
Kris uses they/them pronouns in the actual game though
Yeah, but they still just come across as a weird teenager instead of some unstable e-girl with inane politics.
Dess doesn't have antlers, so it's implied Noelle is a male deer. They forgot Noelle is a reindeer.
To be fair, Kris does not seem terribly stable.
Dess doesn't have antlers
This is headcanon due to Toby's awkward phrasing.
That's fucking horrible.
Okay, well they're not the kind of unstable that's terminally online.
I'm sorry but this is hot. Kris should be an edgy egirl who gets lesbian sex with Noelle and Susie.
Minecraft skin Kris. The eyelashes suck bad, too. The overworld sprite looks like it has shit on its eye.
edgy
Canon
lesbian
Canon
sex
Non-canon
ACTUALLY Dess is the troon in Deltatravelers because they were called December in a newsletter once or something
Dess is a troon
Immediately accuses Gaster of grooming kids the second they see him with a child
Dev is a troon
There's layers to this.
androgynous my ass this makes them look like a girl
I'm gonna be real, I genuinely hope whatever's going on with Dess in DR just turns out to not be important to the main plot at all. Like, she isn't working with Gaster, she isn't the knight, she's not trapped in the bunker or in a dark world somewhere, she's just normal missing and that's all there is to it. She just ran off somewhere and decided to never come back, 0% paranormal shit involved.
Naught remains.
Alone. Utterly alone. Cast out. Unloved. Outside the grace of gods.
The Dark World, they call this shrine of death. Yet nowhere do I spy our Roaring Knight.
His throne sits empty, wanting, for an heir...
Why
Are artists incapable of drawing an appealing Dess design? If it's not a generic tomboy, the design looks too much like an OC.
Sorry man, not a chance in Hell that's happening.
This Kris is too pretty. The previous one wasn't great, but I think it was closer to Kris's character. A Kris sprite should at least be a little scruffy.
Asgore intentionally flumbing the investigation so Dess could live out her life and presumably fuck her son would be pretty cool of him. Since Asgore apparently can't get anything, I would have to say that's not the case.
Because I hate Noelle and think it would be really funny if this happens.
*fuck his son*
presumably fuck her son
W-what? Did I miss something?
I meant she doesn't have it in Deltatraveler.
It's too much like the Kris on the right
turd entity yes or not?
turd entity a shit
I kinda just want to see her so we can move on
Yes, but she's not directly controlling Kris.
no
yeah i can live with that.
he looks like a shithead ready to inconvenience you for hours because he thought it'd be funny.
what do you think about spamton-mike relationship? spamton seems bitter and think he doesn't need friends but he still miss mike somewhat
Third entity is dumb as fuck and makes no sense in deltarune
what a shit idea
The attitude of this artist is hard to gauge.
Male Kris literally labelled as MASCULINE FORCE
Nonbinary quirk chungus (which is how they draw them)
Girlboss because "girl power" isn't as cool as MASCULINE FORCE
Get outta here Anon Babble
interesting how the masculine one is the one that actually looks like kris
goes against kris' character as a whole
it's kind of interesting but i don't think it will be too important to the lore, i'm guessing mike was just an old friend of his
I don't see what's so masculine or feminine about these Krises, they just look like different styles or more or less detail. There is definitely a trend where some artists will draw Kris like an alt chick you'd see at the mall, for some reason.
It's a little subtle, but the more masculine Kris is broader, which is more noticible in his shoulder area, while the feminine Kris is thinner and has a bit of a figure if you look at her hips.
27 days inside me
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So what did they talk about?
Honestly, they all look like girls to me. The one on the left just has the hips drawn sharper and looks broader due to the larger size.
You know, given what we know and what may happen in the future, it's an interesting thought.
That all this is arranged like some generic kids movie coming of age story where the power of imagination allows Kris to turn everything around, make friends with his bully, reconnect with his childhood friend, fix his parents' divorce. And whatever else.
And yet all signs point to the fact that none of this matters. That there's some unseen third path which is the only actual way for everyone to be happy by the end.
Did a scuffed edit to remove the eyes. It still looks off but at least kris doesn’t look like a mentally ill e-thot
those mixels are PISSING me off
Somehow makes my dick react more than the fucking girly eyelashes. Maybe it's just the imprint of the lashes on my psyche and preferences aligning more positively.
DELTATRAVERLER... HIRE THIS MAN!!!!
She's dead
Don't know. Maybe explaining why he strongly believes they and Susie are the heroes, or something about the SOUL.
Yes but they're only helping Kris fulfill their goals, not taking over him.
Trying to plot behind my back. He will fail
Napstablook to Spamton's Mettaton.
eyelashes
So gay that it wraps back around into being straight because they just made him a girl
I appreciate the apple stem cowlick though
kris will rip us out and be a boss fight but since he's half dead it's more an endurance test
but if you have all the shadow crystals then he uses the power of freedom and it'll be a cool ensemble fight against all the schizo bosses lending their power to Kris
thoughts?
He’s gonna make the twisted sword and regain control of his body
right Kris would be peak androgyny without the lashes
also save your fucking images at a higher quality what is this artifacting jesus
look in a public pisscord server thats not UT/DR related
some art posted of kris being mad that he's not a monster like the rest of the town
"otherkin kris"
entire fucking convo starts over it
they are all circlejerking their mentally ill idea of kris actually believing that he's not human.
not a single person pointed out the fact that kris is just mad that he doesnt fit in.
i know that i shouldnt be surprised, but its still disappointing whenever i see it.
its the most obvious shit, its just a story of a teenage kid that doesnt fit in. and they still find ways to latch to insanity.
Kris can talk as soon as we're with someone else
otherkin
what do you think trance down means? was it an error? is giving kris more freedom? is giving us more freedom?
The thing you have to keep in mind is that in english speaking communities basically nobody has actually played the game and see it as a vessel for their narcissism complex.
I've gone so far with meaningless speculation that I think, beside wanting to fit in, it's not that they don't believe they're human, but that they've had issues seeing themself as a person. I can admit this is complete headcanon, at least.
give kris twisted sword
they thank us
sans in UT mentions a “antlered girl and her big sis” implying dess doesn’t have antlers
what the fuck does this mean
No one would have gotten it if he said "antlered sisters" because there are no such characters, so the line was changed to that, since there is a singular antlered girl the player would know about.
Its funny that despite modern Anon Babble being a unusuable shithole, this has become one of the few ways to talk about toby fox shit in a non-autistic manner.
if i said "the white girl and her big sis" you can imply the sister is also probably white
once ch3/4 come out we will be waiting another 5 years for the rest of the game
How do you cope with this?
Deltafags have collectively convinced themselves that Dess is their tomboy waifus with the only ones going against that idea being contrarians
I mean kind of, sort of.
It's more that things that aren't rampantly being shilled you can mostly talk about.
Barring you know the obvious thing, actual shills getting mad and spamming the thread because real human beings are eating into their adspace.
Plus Undertale has like a 12 year history of mostly being intolerant of people that obviously haven't played the game being annoying about it.
why is that? is it because it contrasts with noelle's meek nature?
Why exactly are you coping that Deltarune's going to have a massive developmental delay like chapter 3 and 4 in the first place considering that was the result of gamemaker shitting itself because the game was too complex
Kris finally gets free
SUSIE WE ARE GOING TO FUCK, RIGHT NOW
There's been a lot of drama queen faggots crying about how it'll take forever for the rest of the game to come out.
But the Switch 2 is finally out.
Gamemaker was updated.
Toby now has a fully functional Japanese pipeline going for the game.
Literally what could impede this any further.
I just think it'd be funny if she was literally Ness.
It's the wiffle bat and beating up Kris, probably.
tobert uses his nintendo connections to secure a music license for megalomania wyd
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Yeah
Didn’t he say ch5 hasn’t even started
Literally what could impede this any further.
Toby dying in a car accident
No retard.
Even one of the earliest announcements for development progress outlined that between chapters 3 4 and 5, when Toby was acting like those would be the only other chapters that progress was done on ALL of them.
If Deltarune doesn't have Gigalovania then deltarune will be shit
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Literally what could impede this any further.
Figuring out what he's gonna write for the next 3 to 9 next chapters.
Or just him getting hit by a car and being put in a coma or just being stuck in the hospital for years.
Or him getting stabbed to death by a crazy shipper who'd just come up to him mumbling about how he ruined Deltarune by making Susie not laugh at some joke Noelle made in chapter 4 and he deserved to die for that (in Minecraft).
Yeah this is the biggest niggerbrain cope possible. Acting as if the game is literally being written as it goes along with no planning or forethought.
YO BUDDY,
That's basically how One Piece has been rolling for over two decades and people call the author Goda for just re-reading back on something that happened +600 chapters and deciding "oh right that was a thing, guess I'll slap it in now".
We'll never know for sure with Toby but it'd be funny as hell if true.
WHERE'S MY NEWSLETTER?
WHERE'S MY NEWSLETTER?
Where and when has Deltarune ever given the implication that it's some kind of serial webcomic which will run forever without ever thinking of an ending?
Well, in One Piece...
GIGA
I was just a funny comparison since both are taking fucking forever to finish.
You just sucked the fun out of it, forget it.
Literally what could impede this any further.
toby.fangamer.com
One day in the future, after 3&4 are out, we will need to update GameMaker again in an even more extensive way... causing new and unknown bugs, crashes, and strange differences to appear once again in a game that is twice as big as it is now.
sheepish blush proto-susie my beloved
A funny comparison that doesn't have anything to do with anything. Not even like, "Oh you gotta argue with me I'm a big argue man with a big brain." It's basically just an autistic outburst on your part.
Yeah yeah, whatever go suck a dick, I'm not reading all of that.
years of bug testing for chapter 7
it's over
any puppet pipeline fans here
Next year
Literally three sentences
Lol. Keep crying. Your comparisons suck and you're a major faggot.
One day I'll sit down and actually read some of these newsletters.
I don't think I've ever fully read one, I've just skimmed through a few and stopped to look at some funny gifs like Papyrus watering Flowey and Asgore's flowers and Sans WHIRRRRRRRRRRRing some snowflakes away from Papyrus into his own mouth.
I think Underrunefags just really like their tomboy waifus (See: Undyne and Susie)
Noelle quietly sobbing into her pillow because she expects the new pope won't have very nice things to say about gay people and she's afraid to talk to Alvin anymore
Don't worry, episcopals don't care about the pope.
It's ok they don't believe in God in their world, they believe in Dog.
Thinking back, do you guys think Ralsei came first, and then Toby put DR and went on to create undertale + Asriel, or was Asriel always apart of the picture pre-undertale?
I thinka character that is something like Asriel/Ralsei was always part of the picture, but it took Undertale for him to really formulate his ideas.
ameribro...
Anon, the game's religion isn't catholicism or even any form of christianity
Anon, you might just be gay.
Monster Kid is Christian though, let's be clear.
Its obviously aping Christianity, even if it's not literally Christianity. It's set in what amounts to a North American small town.
Fucking Yujiro Hanma in here.
That's a save point they're wearing, not a crucifix.
If it were a crucifix it would be one pixel longer on the bottom.
ralsei is based on the name "ralse", so ralsei probably came first
Do not fear, gay does, Prevost will lib out. He worshipped Francis in his opening speech
It's typically bad form to badmouth your predecessor. Especially if he just died.
He was close to Francis even before he died iirc
Alvin isn't a Priest. They follow a pagan religion.
He was picked to be cardinal by Francis less than a year ago.
It's true that you don't badmouth the last guy, but the substance of the speech was continutity, that Francis' "open arms" is the path the church must continue following. This election was ultimately an approval by the college of cardinals of Francis's tenure.
The Hometown religion doesn't have sin or confession
Asriel is still aware of the concepts of sin and confession
Toriel makes Asriel go to church every day as if what he did was sinful
The church still has communion wine and turned Kris into a mini-alcoholic despite not being Christian
They have a yearly festival centered around the religion
It's all a mystery.
Do you think Toby personally wishes church didn't have the concept of sin, or at least didn't dwell on it? What does he think of Leviticus 20:13?
Toby has a dedicated Nintendo call-girl to tap it on her tongue these days I don't think he's thinking about Leviticus much
The Angel religion probably just has a different way to enforcing or promoting morality that doesn't involve the concept of sins. Like maybe something like karma or the idea of adhering to societal norms.
You mean the entirety of Protestantism, coming to the basic premise that a church run by mortal men could become corrupt.
Gay priest is here now
Imagine the STENCH
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CATHARTIC
No, Alvin straight up says they don't have sin. Like straight up. Removed from interpretation or misunderstanding.
The only other hint about the religion is that Alvin says, "May the Angel's POWER guide you." and "May the Angel watch over you." separately to Kris. So despite there being no sin, their belief is the Angel still witnesses and influences everything you do.
If there's no sin, then there's nothing to stop me from becoming the Angel.
cultivation
HOOLY FUARK
Holy fuck this made me lose it.
Guys is Deltatraveler actually kino? I know people here say it's bad, but the idea that Noelle constantly has foul thoughts despite being such a nice person is a really amusing idea.
Toriel was likely inspired by the idea behind Ralsei and then Ralsei obviously draws on Asriel, Deltarune and Undertale fed into each other like that.
The timeline would be
There should be a guide character
Okay fuck this game, it's too hard to make, I'm making Undertale
There should be a tutorial character
Tutorial... Tutoriel? Toriel.
And her son is Asriel Dreemurr (aka Serial Murderer)
Okay I'm making Deltarune this time for reals
There should be a guide character, one the fandom should get really attached to.
*looks at fan reaction to Asriel*
Bingo.
It says fuck
omg it's kino
are you guys 12?
Thinks it's funny solely because it swears and nothing else
I guess I know who just turned 16.
The idea that Noelle of all people gets so pissed off that she would say something so uncharacteristic of her is what makes it funny. It would be like Toriel making a suggestive comment or Berdly acting suave for once.
Okay imagine that you like their version of Noelle and don't care that it dumpsters her character.
Now imagine that literally everyone else is an annoying whiny unfun bitch to counteract this.
The things is, his prediction of five year assumes that each chapter takes two years and that a whole yeah of work is already done for 5, which would be almost but not quite TWICE as fast as the development of the previous four chapters.
Filtered
Lmao
You know, if I go into it not thinking of it as Deltarune and more like its own thing, kinda like Tails Gets Trolled, where this Not-Noelle is a straight woman (hah) to all of the nonsense going on, maybe I could enjoy it.
Thinks it's funny solely because it swears and nothing else
I don't think it's funny.
Haha she swore!
Noelle wouldn't swear!
Yeah real hilarious
Yeah that's the joke. Humor is about the unexpected.
Kino.
Yes, it's funny because it was written unironically. Are you autistic?
MAIDO IN HEAVEN would qualify as a fever dream ending too.
Human...I remember you're Earthbound GENOSLIDES
what do you do?
Pic related
anon...i remember you're swears
Optimist sisters oddly silent after this bombshell dropped...
It's mischaracterization: the game with marvelslop-tier tonal whiplash at every turn. If you played any of the games that the fun gang cross over to, you'll probably die of cringe. But the guy from the newest Budokai Tenkaichi game is in it so maybe it isnt all bad
My original prediction was three to five years assuming a really fast dev time but this pushes it back to like six or seven years.
It's kinda nutty that Toby isn't just dictating Deltarune's development but making YoYo bend over backwards to update GameMaker just for his game.
The Angel religion makes homosexuality mandatory. According to secret leaked Toby documents
Is Toby Fox the Kanye West of indie games???
Making one of the biggest and most successful indie games ever created with their engine will have that effect. Toby gets to work with what he's comfortable with and they get to use Undertale and Deltarune as promotion for their engine. It's a win-win.
It would make sense if he did his cousin given the subtextual incest between Asriel and Kris.
the turd entity in question:
tfw these people are making a Mario and Luigi section
LOOKS LIKE KINOS BACK ON THE MENU
trance has a connection with control (given noelle's whole deal in the weird route), so yes i think it is to give kris freedom. i can only imagine this is building up to us and kris separating. but despite all of the fan interpretations of the kris and (you)'re relationship, i dont think kris wants you to separated from them. we've seen what happens when a puppet loses their strings with spamton neo.
Susie is the type of person who boldly claims she would go and sing Frank Sinatra's "My Way" at a Karaoke Bar in the Philippines, but chicken out at the last minute.
why the philippines?
I need it to happen only because of the bizarre outcome an "M&L Obliteration Route" would entail
you're reading it slightly wrong, spamton mindbreaks kris specifically because that is EXACTLY what he wants, and it's triggering a deep fear that he's both
a. going to destroy himself
b. incapable of actually achieving freedom
doesn't toby use a weird and inefficient way of storing/ordering sprites that makes it basically impossible to scale?
Kris is so fucking """"male-coded""" it isnt even fucking funny anymore.
Basically everyone even the most fruity lala homo artists draw him looking and behaving like a skinny weird teenage dude. The no gender whatever "enby" stuff is almost exclusively used when hes beeing used as a reddit soapbox how its gay pride month or some shit, and female Kris appears 95% of times when its porn.
it makes me kinda sad that people who play deltarune ch1 play it knowing what it was. playing it when it was disguised as a survey program was fucking kino. that made my halloween that year.
He's waiting for you, Anon Babble. He's waiting to see you again like an old friend that still remembers you. He wants to see how much you've grown and changed as a person because he loves you and thinks you're beautiful.
He wants you to know that you're not alone.
What's that? You don't trust him? It doesn't matter because he still loves you.
And here’s the old sprite
and female Kris appears 95% of times when its porn.
In 99.9% of Deltarune porn Kris is explicitly male.
Side note, Toby explicitly calls the game.change function a "chapter-switching command".
What do you think this means?
Literally changing which chapter you're in on the fly (for whatever reason)
Getting to the end and then doing time travel shenanigans to a specific chapter
Getting fucking dunked on with random time travel like Sans did
On the plus side, it means we can ship things like Kriselle and Krusie with impunity since it technically isn't a "straight ship" or whatever. Fujos can eat a bag o' dicks.
Yes he uses half-pixels and shit. Im making my own Deltarune sprites for a campaign and I used Noelle for scale and I couldnt get her to be "proper" sized due to it.
I remember that, I was at a fucking Olive Garden with my friends when I found out about it. What a mysterious experience.
On the plus side, it's still happening and there's still so much to experience and talk about.
Hot Topic e-thot (Male)
Not if you refer to Kris as a he.
Yes what I mean is that female Kris is basically almost never depicted in anything that isnt porn. Like theres tons of SFW male (or male but called Them because reddit) Kris art, but hardly any SFW female Kris art
THIS NEXT EXPERIEMNT
SEEMS
VERY
VERY
INTERESTING
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WHAT DO (YOU) THINK
Ch3 secret boss is going to give Kris a weapon if you win via violence since both Susie and Ralsei already got one.
It's obvious but the light world form of it will be a paintbrush.
It's effect will let Kris do a unique ACT that does damage in fights, since the Jevils knife lowers Rude Busters TP cost and Puppet Scarf lowers Healing.
the update already came out, each chapter is now a different executable dummy
That's really good
You can run every single chapter at the same time and they can all intermingle with one another
This is just more confusing and I straight up don't know what the fuck this implies.
Deltarune was Toby's pet project to make his fiction Real Life
You guys are forgetting that Deltarune is now being developed with consoles in mind
I still have the original survey program file thign on my old laptop. It'd be funny to see if we could backtrack to the same level after completing it further along the story and load it into the survey program. Survey Project's Dogcheck only looks for level numbers so it might be possible to do if ever.
toby took so long Deltarune will become real before it got finished
Where my Shizo waifu bros at?
Sex
I could never kill /ourboy/
No matter how cringe he becomes in DR. Even if he's the My Little Boney fedora tipping shithead
Toby delayed development for an entire year for a feature which doesn't work on console
The soup just keeps getting thicker.
shota on shota
Beautiful boy.
Soft boy.
Kind boy.
Cute boy.
give dess hug give dess hug give dess hug and then judo-flip her into a seat at a giant christmas dinner with the rest of her family that didn't die
no I mean scale as in the game's scale, I remember reading that all the game's sprites are on one big data sprite sheet the game needs to scan through rather than a bunch of dedicated sheets
looking forward to how they try to shove the pacifism nonsense into zelda (the next area)
they could get away with it in earthbound since they're a bunch of random animals, but in zelda the enemies you face are all mindless demons that exist solely to ruin the world, they cannot even begin to comprehend the idea of mercy.
it is your moral imperative to fight and kill them.
they could ignore it with earthbound (mind controlled by an eldritch horror) and handwave underfell, but to try and shove blind pacifism into zelda would be so lore blind that it wouldnt even be funny anymore.
That's silly as fuck but I'm telling you now, he's doing this because he was a romhacker.
The reason Yellow didnt get shat on unlike Deltatraveler is because yellow has almost exclusively its own cast besides Flowey and whoever wrote him didnt shit the bed/was actually good.
Just make your own fucking characters
Actually it's because
It was written well, and writing began so early on after Undertale came out it was basically completely absent ALL the secondary cancer that plagues ALL western fan content that exists these days.
It's written like someone who actually played Undertale rather than someone who once met this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy who knew this guy's cousin that played Undertale at one point.
Toby codes the way I used to "mod" my CiV mods to work with other cartoonhorse mods 10 years ago:
looks at code
autistically copypastes shit until it works
autistically tests every possibility
it somehow just works
because autism but no idea what hes doing
I wanna draw a Dess but by now Im afraid her design will be wildly different from what everyones been drawing
Those two arent mutually exclusive. Yellow had every fucking chance and lore-excuse to have Sans appear and go "Haha, cant let you do this Fangamer" but resisted doing so.
Thing is, Deltatraveler came out of the box with its bed already shat. In Undertale Yellow it moreso pissed the bed around the fourth quarter, just enough to piss some people off but not enough to sour the audience entirely. Probably why there's so many fix-it fics. I think the Yellow soul will be referred to as "Clover" for a long long time.
Hey! Here's a character + role combination no one has predicted yet.
Sexy dragon book lady is the chapter 3 shopkeeper.
We got photons reading negative irl before chapter 3
Imagine making fucking GANON of all things a dindu nuffin. Dunno if I'd laugh or vomit.
Yellow had every fucking chance and lore-excuse to have Sans appear and go "Haha, cant let you do this Fangamer" but resisted doing so.
Sans wank is literally mutually exclusive from being absent secondary influence.
Undertale didn't become the Sans wank game until months after release because secondaries realized he was the "true final secret mega boss that you're extra cool for knowing about".
I really can't see Kris being anything but a dude, I can barely think of times where there's even been anything female coded.
Maybe when Ralsei asks you to put on the ribbon?
Kris outfits are
jrpg warrior
t shirt and pants
doctors coat
glam rock (he has heels in the outfit but like so did every glam rock star)
gangster uniform
Not canon
Wasn't there a counter that'd go up if you selected options Kris didn't like, and one was hugging Ralsei, and another was saying anyone but Susie when she asks about the Carnival.
Or am I thinking of something else?
Bad writing will be bad writing. But it really just went down the line of bad ideas.
Taking a funny meme and using it for shitty drama
"Interpreting" characters who have some pretty well-defined personalities
Enforcing your own interpretation of a player self insert (who also has their own predefined personality) which is just going to piss off literally everyone if it's a shitty one (it is)
Changing the funny meme idea into AU autism
Kris rocks heels even better as a guy thoughtbeit
yellow also didnt make a character brag about killing orphans, or have another tell you to kill yourself.
i feel like thats a pretty big line here.
yellow started off slow, built up a pretty decent jog, and then RIGHT at the finish line it tripped, fell down a hill, and landed in a septic tank.
I'm glad I still have no idea what deltatraveler is
It's at least incidentally hilarious since it's similar to the issue with Undertale itself. Tard wrangling a certain someone resulted in hotland through the True Lab getting compressed.
what's toby's game here?
I'm really glad we finally got out of the skele-wank trenches after YEARS of the horrid slop. I'd take a hundred Plueys and Friend Inside Me before another dose of "What if Sans was X" AU shit
A MAJOR SNOW WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR SOUTHERN COUNTIES
Home is where the [HEART SHAPED OBJECT] is, after all.
we all love gaster here, this is a gaster board
An ongoing fangame that took the "KRIS WHERE THE FUCK ARE WE" meme and turned it into an excuse to have Kris and Susie go through mini-adventures in other games.
Unfortunately rather than treating it as the goofy lighthearted concept that it actually is, the faggot in charge really wants to use it as a vehicle to push headcanons about Deltarune with a smug sense of "heh... I see your game, Toby, I read you like an open book." that's destined to become dated and cringeworthy as more and more emphasis is pushed onto the serious side.
They also couldn't resist plugging their dead Underfell take into the game, having you go through its Snowdin as the third chapter/world.
You might be thinking of the counter that increases when you threaten to delete a save file.
Or the 'krispreservationsociety' variable that tracks how many Chapters you've been Kris for.
what the fuck are you on about, a month into undertale's release there were thousands of youtube videos of the sans boss fight
besides a lot of skeletonwank comes from fujos wanting to fuck sans
Deltatraveler feels like tumblr(not the frans half) wrote deltarune with all the shitty fanon that entails
kris openly hates the player no matter what you do
suselle is ten times more blatant and “wholesome”
FIGHTing for any reason is treated as inherently evil
kris has a talk sprite and dialogue
”serious” moments right next to literal shitposts
melodramatic geno route that doesn’t even make sense
Meanwhile yellow (mostly) played it safe headcanon wise and its biggest retard moment was with its OCs and near the end
great
Tard wrangling a certain someone resulted in hotland through the True Lab getting compressed.
what
If Dess isn't a sporty tomboy, with dark hair, a somewhat alternative appearance, and at least a pixel's worth of deer tidy, we kill the dog
what the fuck are you on about
I'm "On About" actually having played the game at launch. (And the demo, which has to be brought up because it nukes the le megglevania homestuggers Undertale didn't actually get bobular on idds own shit secondaries talk about)
They didn't organize related sprites into their own texture pages so GameMaker just crams them all together randomly. The dark worlds do have shit internally stored at 2X resolution including world coordinates, who fucking knows why
the faggot in charge really wants to use it as a vehicle to push headcanons about Deltarune with a smug sense of "heh... I see your game, Toby, I read you like an open book." that's destined to become dated and cringeworthy as more and more emphasis is pushed onto the serious side.
This is the one thing that truly pisses me off about the game. Hate that shit because you can tell that they're WAY off and they'll either scramble to retcon it all or chug along with their now disproved plot
I'm "On About" actually having played the game at launch
and where does that provide your evidence for the nonsensical claim that secondaries didn't know about the sans fight in the first few months of undertale's release
Turns out that Dess had big naturals
It call comes back around to make it even more clear that Noelle is some kind of sex pest
The pacing towards the end of the game is a little fucky allegedly because of Toby having to tard wrangle Butterfagon who was making tons of absurd demands and harassing other backers
berdly is the key to all this, because he's a smarter character then we've ever had
So you were around when the game launched but what does that have to do with knowing what people who started pretending to care about the game after it was fairly popular
There aren't words for how much I hate the modern internet sometimes.
Has there been a big kickstarter with, "Pay us enough money and we will personally give you the reins over our development cycle!" drama lately? I feel like all the biggest "successes" actually had this exact kind of drama and it stopped people from doing it later on, but I dunno.
a tl;dr thats actually too long:
started out as a shitpost game off of the "kris where the HELL are we?" meme
actually opened beautifully with a perfect gag (susie gets pissed at flowey for trying to make her fight kris, goes to kris's side, explosion.mp4 as the battle UI changes to accommodate, then rude buster's flowey away)
immediately after that, shits the bed by making toriel have a meltdown over kris looking somewhat similar to chara.
keeps stumbling and tumbling down the mountain as it fails to recover and only keeps digging itself deeper in the pit
second area, chance to recover and start over with a clean slate. will they take it?
haha WRONGE! thoust silliest worms shouldest have guessedeth they'd get worse!
second area, earthbound
they start out with the game in earthbound's style. noelle uses a spell (lightclear) to force it to UT/DR's style
they completely ignore earthbound's lore, in earthbound fighting enemies frees them from their brainwashing, fighting them yourself on the other hand is very very evil and ness will fight you with a megalovania remix
everybody freaks out over you fighting a fucking snake and treats you like the scum of the earth, even if you abort geno right after you kill it
after said snake, non-UT monsters will bleed when you fight them
third area, another chance. will they take it?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
its underfell time baybe!!!!
right out the gate, its made obvious that they enemies are explicitly trying to KILL you, directly going against the one thing that makes undertale work.
killing the first enemy will make noelle have a meltdown regardless of if you've done geno up to this point
she will eventually tell kris to kill himself
sans is le soup pour edgy guy, before his boss fight he brags about killing orphans.
gaster wankery, devs trying to push headcanons, flanderization. the list goes on
i have mostly memory holed this area
[coming up next]: zelda, underswap, M&L, toon town
George Lucas get the fuck off Anon Babble you fucking motherfucker
Oh shit I forgot about that guy.
I'm glad "insert your OC into the game" has fallen off, because developers realize what kind of cancer it's inviting.
Or the 'krispreservationsociety' variable that tracks how many Chapters you've been Kris for.
qrd? is it just a "chapters you havent saved for" button?
[citation needed]
people don't misremember the past
i was there too faggot
I still think the Shovel Knight devs making Reize a massive part of Specter Knight's backstory solely because Reize had a shitton of rules against the things that explicitly happen in said backstory is one of the funniest things to happen.
button
counter, oops.
ness will fight you with a megalovania remix
kinooooooooooo
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we are the kris dreemurr preservation society...
no, it's a "is this a chapter 1 save imported into chapter 2" variable
They made him into a better character too KEK
Toriel adopted some Christian mannerisms online even if they're part of a pagan religion.
It tracks what Chapter you started from so it can write "Since Chapter x", it's just got an odd Kris centric name.
Reminds me of Pathfinder Kingmaker when some retard with too much money paid for his OC to have his own quest and its the lamest shit ever.
I guess Lobotomy Corp did backer abnos pretty well? Most, if not all of them fit in the game to varying degrees
No because you know who is quite literally responsible for most crowdfunding websites allowing project leads to be able to forcibly refund people and bar them from donating to the project.
Also crowdfunding is kind of but not really dead.
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we are the kris dreemurr preservation society...
Yeah, in fact melting love is incredibly popular in the fandom
People can misremember the past, sure, but that's not the issue here.
Undertale Yellow AS IT EXISTS would not be the way it did if the version of the past you were presenting was at all accurate.
It'd be like asserting that Romans didn't like columns.
so THAT's how he does it...
what the fuck are you on about
i don't see "at what point did secondaries latch onto sans" as a question relevant to "why did uty avoid skelewank"
Censoring fuck for monetization
Meme is a joke about hardcore porn addicts who jerk off for hours at a time
Kris can sometimes show up in a more feminine nurse outfit half the time.
You're not this stupid, or if you are, knock it off.
TL;DR: meme game where kris and co enter various games that the devs tried to take seriously WAY more than it had to so it looped around to being unintentionally funny
no argument
You guys should just kiss rather than argue about some nonsense that has nothing to do with the original point about Yellow or some shit.
I'll be watching, spit-shining my BIG BONER.
People here make up fanfiction to make types of people they don't like look bad, what's new.
Honestly one of the worst things about nu-internet
people will make 40 minute video essays about the KurzenFurzen-Regiment of the german SS that massacred 500k civilians of eastern east slavonia
But while they do that they will say shit like "then they geno decided the entire village before unaliving themselves"
goes toe to toe with psychotic murderer hellbent on destroying everyone and everything
My fucking HERO.
I really wish there was a Deltatraveler that wasn't grimderp and stupid. I think that there's gold to be found when you place the Deltarune characters in more traditional RPGs while keeping their non-conforming and untraditional eccentricities intact. Susie telling Flowey to eat shit was the most hilarious part of the game.
I don't need an argument to "rebut"
I'm a big silly head I'm gonna pretend like Sans wank was in full swing before Undertale came out but had zero observable impact on fan works despite the elephant in the room proving otherwise and if you say otherwise it doesn't count
I don't know Kris reads pretty androgynous to me. Granted, I still almost automatically think of "he" when referring to Kris, but Kris doesn't feel especially masculine to me. I guess it's kinda like how you'll probably think of a stick figure as a man most of the time despite said stick figure not having a huge, latern jaw or anything.
It's gotten so fucking stupid that showing a body bag, no context, will demonetize you, despite the fact the body bad exists as a form of obfuscation to hide dead bodies.
They have to RE-CENSOR CENSORSHIP now.
He jobbed though
It's mostly in the fact he shares a room with Asriel, both of them being in their hormonal years, something that Toriel would not let fly period if Kris were a girl given how much Kris idolizes Asriel.
why did dessriel got popular?
What's worse than that is at the same time people are trying to get kids to mutilate themselves and we're years from the chinese getting kids to eat laundry products and vandalize their schools.
But no you can't say "suicide" because the mentally ill person who was the first to sign up to moderate might do it if they read the word.
That or they just go ahead and fully embrace the fact it's borderline its own story with characters that just happen to look like characters from this other game and fully embrace its dorky edginess.
pretend like Sans wank was in full swing before Undertale came out
i didn't say that
but had zero observable impact on fan works
i didn't say that
Don't play semantics with me you little fucker
It's not because of the troon you described, it's because Big Daddy Gigacorp wants a squeaky clean reputation so the CEO can humblebrag to other rich twats about how "unbelieveably successful I am while still adhering to a family-friendly approach."
the yellow threads had an idea a while ago
game starts out with the gang going to universes that are light hearted and happy
but as time goes on, murdering enemies becomes more justifiable to the point of it being your moral imperative with games like OFF and lisa
I think Toriel has enough faith in her son to not commit statutory rape on her maybe-daughter.
It's the thought that counts.
it's because Big Daddy Gigacorp wants a squeaky clean reputation
The reputation of (at best) employing child molesters and scammers (via talent agencies), which they currently have?
kris gender argument
again
Faggots that saw glam-rock Kris and think its finally a example of him totally not beeing a dude for all purposes have to be 16 year old that didnt get exposed to pic related second or third-hand.
I'm pretty sure its rhe same people too. We're basically paraphrasing the same arguments again.
Kris and Noelle have excuses to hang out together as smaller children.
Asriel and Dess hanging out together as like, 12 year olds gets you thinking. And then there's the casual mention from Noelle with "Dess wiping my tears with Asriel's jacket."
Who ISN'T a child molester or scammer these days, though?
This world actively rewards the vile and punishes the virtuous, because the top of the world is ran by the dishonest who find every opportunity to make life harder for the honest.
Will happen, happening, happened
Will happen, happening, happened
And will happen again and again
toby must have a thing for glam rock aesthetic. I don't blame him
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Who ISN'T a child molester or scammer these days, though?
Real human users.
Who are generally annoyed with the the bot spam on the internet and sex freaks occupying the moderation of every core website.
Final world
The most CATHARTICS kills
They enter and Kris immediately gets misgendered.
i'm not playing semantics with you because i have no fucking idea what you think my thesis is
Toriel’s house does have any spare rooms so unless she made kris sleep on the couch then yeah Asriel and Kris would share a room
if the greater fandom made this the final world would just be one of those anti-bullying videos.
somehow ranking above lisa in how fucked up the world is
Such is what happens when there's only a handful of organic users on the entire site, and everyone else is bots.
native RPG characters are either weirded out or outright hostile from all the MERCY and SPARE'ing stuff
Could be kino. Maybe.
he is absolutely doing it this way because its how earthbound did it. lmao
It's about marketing agencies and ad revenue. Going by pure volume, advertisements bring in more money by proportion than anything else. Blame ads for users having to use censored kid talk, just so the trogs at the marketing agency deigns to give the platform their money.
birdGOD supremecy
Nah people here are definitely deranged enough to keep arguing about this. I hate the "everyone I don't like is AI" paranoia that is everywhere nowadays
No like I was one the anons who responded using one of the same typical counter arguments. I only realized how repetitive it was after the fact
That's what I meant, it's that minority of organic posters that keep having schizo feedback loops. The implication is that everyone else fucked off from Anon Babble, either to other platforms or giving up on online discussion entirely.
I extremely doubt that Earthbound did anything like that, considering consoles then didn't even have enough VRAM for you to be able to
Look, I lost my job, Im exhausted, im tired, I just want to discuss why this teenager in this videogame im autistically invested in is basically every 6th dude I knew in Highschool (Including me, I even collected fucking knives)
Can I fucking do that?
Every sixth guy who knew liked to eat moss?
Kris's outfit for this segment is peak
Yellow was great for a number of reasons, one of which being that it gives zero shits that you want to do a genocide.
The only flaw is retarded Fox lady and the general humanization of the character sprites, but that's forgivable.
I think Kris is androgynous and they/them because they're literally 2 niggas now shut the fuck up let's talk about lore or ANYTHING.
I think it's ironic how with Deltarune having a premise that makes way more sense to insert a bunch of OCs into, these fangame devs just don't go all the way with it. You could make a DR fangame about a group of unrelated characters doing their own side quests in a dark world and even let the players headcanon that it coincides with the canon DR plot. You can do literally ANYTHING with dark worlds, the only limit is your imagination.