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Deltarune
knightkrisfags will BURN in 4 weeks
they think genocide ending was toby trying to make an unsatisfying ending
Does it mean anything?
Kris/Vessel split stuff we probably won't get answers to until the bunker opens.
I still think the sink thing is part of the theory that kris is both chara and frisk at the same time before the roaring causes a reset of the universe into undertale
Did you not look at the sweepstakes updates?
Kris Knight got way more likely.
haha if you keep smelling like such an apple i might bite you
weird way to flirt susie
she's autistic, please be patient.
originally one tall sink (kris) that was cut in half to create both of them (chara and frisk)
kris as a character got split into the dreemurr child half for chara and the vessel for the player half for frisk
Our FRIEND is waiting
no part of the last few threads even mentioned kris knight
krisknightfag:
"heh... the sweepstakes update actually CONFIRMS that kris is the knight!"
"why? uhhh... IT DOESNT MATTER!
yep, typical kris knight fag.
I wonder, do you think Deltarune would be just as popular if it had none of the meta elements and mysteries
I wonder, do you think a car would be just as popular if it had none of the wheels or fuel?
If FRIEND, why not FRIEND shaped?
Kris and Susie had indirect kiss.
Noelle is getting with Catti
Susellefags on suicide watch
Gotta say toby's pretty good at revealing just enough to make people wanna draw fanart and speculate, but still not really spoiling anything important
Yeah I realized that was a dumb question after I posted, the meta stuff is almost all of the intrigue
troonshit
kys OP
ch3 schizo boss is a cat
asriel has a copy of cat petters rpg under his bed
like some kind of monster you need your bedsheets to protect you from
you need the shadow mantle to even stand a chance against the guy
Tell me about your most batshit and out-there DR theory.
Why post?
Noelle sex
I'm leftpilled now.
how????
i dunno man, being left-handed sounds cheeks
kris is intentionally designed not to have a gender to bait people into thinking they're a self insert
Krusie vore
I just ruined my pants.
I believe this tale may have a happy ending.
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The final boss, the "Shadow Nightmare," wants to keep the Wind Fish asleep so that the "dream world" the game takes place in will last forever
June 4th, 11 AM
I have shit to DO, Toby.
Yeah it's cool to see
What pisses me off about people talking about left-handed Kris is that Kris plainly plays guitar right-handed in the 3+4 trailer.
A left handed guitarist strums with their left hand. The guitar should be flipped around. Look up Kurt Cobain or Jimi Hendrix.
This is True
What do you think the odds are that the cat is merely a chaotic neutral with its own ambitions and not the antagonist in any way?
FRIEND isn't the schizo boss.
The cat is obviously a main antagonist character not constrained to a single chapter
the dog has done it again
the ''let's rumble'' could also be referring to link's awakening rumble feature
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What would a Switch 2 Deltarune special edition console look like?
I'm glad we got the return of Girelle
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... I AM THE WIND FISH... LONG HAS BEEN MY SLUMBER... IN MY DREAMS... AN EGG APPEARED AND WAS SURROUNDED BY AN ISLAND, WITH PEOPLE, ANIMALS, AN ENTIRE WORLD!
... ... ... ... BUT, VERILY, IT BE THE NATURE OF DREAMS TO END! WHEN I DOST AWAKEN, KOHOLINT WILL BE GONE... ONLY THE MEMORY OF THIS DREAM LAND WILL EXIST IN THE WAKING WORLD...
SOMEDAY, THOU MAY RECALL THIS ISLAND... THAT MEMORY MUST BE THE REAL DREAM WORLD... ... ... ... ... COME, Link ... LET US AWAKEN... TOGETHER!!
unironically good luck with that, its an important skill to have
might elevate your banter past a point of "you dont get laid" as well, sex is not as esoteric as you make it out to be
It'd have colored buttons correlating with the cast in the same pattern as the CORE color trinity, but would otherwise just be black with the castle town stencil on it.
what if chapter 4 is chapter 5 and chapter 3 is chapter 6
I can feel my Deltarune autism flaring up. Things have not felt this good since September of 2021. It's really happening
The 6th year anniversary stream but Chapter 2 instead
Papyrus is not the Knight, but he's working for the Knight as a "squire".
KRISMAS DREEMURR! STOP TRYING TO SUCK YOUR BROTHER'S UNWASHED PENIS IMMEDIATELY! YOU ARE BEING A VERY BAD BOY RIGHT NOW, YOUNG MAN. YOU ARE BEING VERY SINFUL AND DISHONEST. TRICKING YOUR IMPRESSIONABLE BROTHER INTO TAKING HIS PENIS OUT AND CLOSING HIS EYES BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU "SUMMON YOSHI" IS A CRUEL LIE, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOUR BROTHER LOVES YOSHI. YOU ARE A FIEND, KRISMAS. I DID NOT RAISE YOU THIS WAY, THIS MUST BE YOUR GAY FATHER'S GAY INFLUENCE, WHO I HATE. I DO NOT APPROVE OF HOMOSEXUALITY, YOU WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR SWEET INNOCENT BROTHER. HIS "SEARCH HISTORY"? WHAT IS THAT. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT IS MY CHILD. YOU WILL NOT CHANGE THE SUBJECT, I DO NOT SEE WHAT YOSHI HAS TO DO WITH THIS. HE IS A SMART, STRAIGHT BOY AND HE WILL GO TO COLLEGE TO BECOME A PREACHER. NO HE DOES NOT OWN A CHASTITY CAGE IT IS A GRAPEFRUIT SLICER. IT IS JUST A DULL GRAPEFRUIT SLICER. HE WOULD NOT LIE ABOUT THIS KRISMAS, UNLIKE YOU, BECAUSE HE IS NOT GAY. KRISMAS! DO NOT MOVE YOUR HAND TOWARDS HIS PENIS! KRISMAS YOU WILL BE GROUNDED FOR A MONTH IF YOU TOUCH HIS PENIS AGAIN. ASRIEL PUT YOUR PENIS AWAY. NO, NO HONEY, SWEETIE I'M SORRY YOSHI ISN'T COMING. NO, I KNOW. I KNOW YOU LOVE YOSHI. I'M SORRY, IT WAS A LIE BY YOUR CRUEL HOMOSEXUAL BROTHER. NO YOSHI WILL NOT SHOW UP IF YOU LET HIM SUCK YOUR PENIS THAT WAS A LIE TOO. ASRIEL GO TO YOUR ROOM AND PRACTICE YOUR HYMNS WHILE I DISCIPLINE KRISMAS. KRISMAS YOU ARE A VERY NAUGHTY CHILD AND YOU WILL BE GETTING COAL AS A PRESENT THIS YEAR. KRISMAS I CAN SEE YOUR BROTHER'S UNDERWEAR STUFFED INTO YOUR SHIRT. THERE ARE AT LEAST 15 PAIRS OF UNDERWEAR IN THERE AND YOU HAVE NOT WASHED THEM AT ALL LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD, YOU ARE JUST USING THEM TO SATE YOUR SINFUL DESIRES. KRISMAS DREEMURR YOU HAVE A SERIOUS MALFUNCTION, MY CHILD TAKE THIS STRAIGHT PILL. IT IS NOT AN ANTIPSYCHOTIC IT IS A STRAIGHT PILL, DON'T FIGHT ME ON THIS MY CHILD. TAKE THE UNDERWEAR TO THE BATHROOM AND PUT THEM IN THE LAUNDRY BASKET OR I'M TAKING AWAY YOUR BIRDCAGE.
Toby just dumps you in the second act of the story without getting to influence the setup of it beyond whacking Birdly/true pacifist-ing
Just like starting a later chapter without a save import has Kris' actions take priority
We spend the next 7 years waiting to get the chance to change things, and Toby gets to have his lesbians cake and eat it too
terrifying prospect
The final schizo boss is going to be The Knight, who isThe Vessel, Dressed up exactly like Varik/Ares
The Vessel (under the Earth's control) is the Knight. It acts as her "hand" to pull the fountains from herself. "Pull" to refer to fountain creation is intentional, it brings to mind Kris pulling the soul from their self, in that same way the Earth is pulling the darkness out of her body.
BACK TO THE FOREST
Mystery man and red tree reference traumatic event that Noelle and Kris saw
Why would that be in a Dark World unless Kris is the Knight. My theory: Fountains are influenced by the will of the creator and Kris's subconscious helped create the egg rooms. What's your theory? The egg rooms are there just because?
I thought I wasn't all that excited for the game only to wake up to it this morning and I'm in love all over again; the achievement for chapter 3's end is making my brain run fucking wild and I have no idea what it means to "reach the end of chapter 3 without issue" because that means there might be some sort of thing where you can reach the end of Ch3 is an abnormal way.
Dess is the knight, that or she's communing with whoever the Knight is and is serving as the counterpart to Gaster and (You)/Kris.
oh man I remember this when chapter 2 came out like, four years ago. I wonder how close it could possibly be.
I think it's the opposite of this, I think gaster's propecy, the weird route, the friend, is about ending the dream.
The weird route and spamton's speech are framed to make it look awful because they don't WANT you to wake up. In the real world kris' life is shit, his parents stay divorced, he has no friends, susie is still a bully who hates him, etc.
what is their problem
What did I miss? Why is the judge from Off in Deltarune?
Or something like that.
Ralsei is working for Gaster, his job is to railroad you as the player through the correct path. This is why Ralsei knows so much stuff he probably shouldn't, like the Angel's Heaven, or about saving the game, and why he often sounds like he's trying to follow a script. He got the prophecy from "time and space", and Castle Town is named after the name you give Gaster in the intro.
Do you think Dess made Kris insanely jealous or really kinky?
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Collect enough cats and you will see our good old IMAGE_FRIEND, whose image file is 'cat-009'
So it seems FRIEND is a cat
... burn in glory, I mean.
Chapter 3's Weird Route will somehow involve bypassing the end of the Chapter completely, so that you don't even get the achievement.
How do you escape a nightmare before it ends? You wake.
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Garden of Eden metaphor
There is A Man Here behind a tree of knowledge?
Jockington is a serpent
Kris is an apple, commonly depicted in the west as the shape of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good & evil
I want to fuck those cat
you have to kill berdly because uhhh escapism bad
yeah not buying it
weird route will lead to a bad outcome, it's not tough love, it's just psychopathic
ICE-E is real and he's the reason Dess is missing.
Asriel in UT was one soul away from being a god, but still wasn't able to kill a human. Where is hyperdeath azzy placed on a vidya powerscale?
Is it worth reading that webcomic nowadays?
Can't tell the difference between a friend and an ice cube
but ch3 does not even have noelle.
unless...
And to think that people wanted to strangle me for less. Not for this one, it's just more related to the post.
He wasn't one soul away. The soul of every monster in the underground is equivalent to the 7th soul.
It's just that he's a crybaby.
If Kris is the forbidden fruit, who are Adam and Eve?
Got called out for linking to some literally who tranny so you made a screencap instead
Fag.
He has infinity attack and defense and if Frisk wasn't there, he could've reshaped the timeline to his leisure. He's awkwardly placed because Frisk is just so bullshittingly-powerful due to the determination soul.
Remember that every other soul color jobbed to Asgore, or perhaps even random monsters. Hyperdeath Azzy easily solos real Earth for example.
Asriel and Des.
Toby Fox actually takes time to read EVERY retarded Deltarune discussion in Anon Babble, reddit, discord, etc, and carefully plans his plot to avoid every possible autistic idea and catch us off guard
Sadly, this would also explain the long wait
The message can't be that escapism is bad, or at least that it's wholly bad. The Dark Worlds are the reason why Susie isn't an autistic asshole anymore, why Berdly made the strides over his superiority complex, and Kris is actually spending time with friends instead of rotting in his room all day and jacking off his to his brother's old shirts.
Calm down it may not even look like that
I just came to this thread morherfucker, I'm employed, i thought this was cool. Sorry it was already discussed or disagreed with.
Noelle is the final boss and the Angel's Heaven is her perfect world that we must end. Typical anime shit.
Wait, sorry, wrong one.
Asriel BECAME a god. And you don't beat him.
He literally just gives up because becoming a god brought his emotions back, and deep in his core he doesn't want to ruin everyone's lives.
mmmm venison
I read the entire thing recently
It's quite an endeavor, both in terms of length and density, but it has some interesting ideas
You'll notice a lot of stuff that probably directly influenced Undertale and Deltarune if you do read it
how long do you think ch3-4 are gonna be?
Too late, I am jacking off as we speak
Also Kris.
can only cum from seeing people die
Listen it's not like it's discounted or frivolous as a theory but I would literally rather gouge out someone's eyes than have to see someone post their funny theory directly from a tranny with the hermaphrodite symbol in their bio and Vivian as their pfp.
adamsie and evelle.
wait a minute.
TRANNY FAG
Ah Anon Babble, never change
Shorter than Chapter 2 on their own, longer combined, or whatever Toby said.
Wasn't chapter 3 meant to be shorter than chapter 2? One of the newsletters definitely mentioned something like that once.
I don't remember if Toby ever said how long chapter 4 is supposed to be though.
Assuming this pattern continues:
Jevil is the schizo boss, teases the Queen in one of his dialogues
Spamton is the schizo boss, teases Mike in one of his dialogues
FRIEND is seemingly a major antagonist, was in the Queen's basement for some reason
Spamton was not corrupted by Gaster, he was successful thanks to Gaster and when he left him he entered in contact with FRIEND at some point, which led to his current look
FRIEND couldnt have possibly been in Chapter 1 because technology just was not present in the closet
We know for a fact that there is a copy of Cat Petters RPG on the top floor to the LEFT
I think FRIEND might be a bit too early for the schizo boss of chapter 3 but Seam telling you that you stand no chance without the cape, and on top of that FRIEND can go invisible/transparent much like the Shadow Cape in theory would let you, I have to assume it is indeed it, but again, it feels too early for what seems to be a major antagonist being teased
The whole situation of Deltarune seems like a Scratched universe
Also new readers wouldn't really get it but I love all the little references like Lancer taking out a spade bucket or The Queen just being the Condense+Roxy with Kanaya's typing quirk
Unlike you snowflakes I'm not easily offended
WHY DO I HAVE TO READ A POST WITH A TRANNY AVATAR WAHHH
this is a groomer free zone, xir.
Oh no... we are gonna get some real gay cats
Together they're longer than 1+2.
starwalker will NEVER be a fucking troon Kraut!
he said 3+4 longer than 1+2 but 2 may be the longest
No one cares groomer.
holy shit
Chapter 1's ??? area is a bunch of corpses from the titans. The fountains keep the world illuminated, and once they are all flickered out the titans will emerge from the darkness. Ralsei has set us up, the Knight is keeping the Dark World up.
This mad
toby said that combined, they should be longer than 1&2 together.
Noelle won't be there but the consequences will be. Whether or not there will be superficial changes or dramatic changes remains to be seen but the little hint on the deltarune.com/chapter3 page seems to indicate there's a little something for us sickos
yeah im not even gunna bother.
there's so much wrong with your assumption that it'd take multiple posts to explain why you're a retard.
posts that i really dont feel like making right now.
/utg/ is leaking again.
The green crayon being missing is probably also a Homestuck reference
I could've sworn the color of his eyes was a bit softer.
they should put their dilators back in then
Any other new stuff? Can I do anything with the Angel cat doors? Because I keep getting those and they keep only having dog checks behind them.
These troons are pissing me off
Im the original Starwalk-her
There's one correct door. Keep trying.
It wouldn't even be Deltarune then. It's explicitly made as a project with meta aspects
The pink is softer in game ch2.
This sounds about right, thats the vibe I also got from Susie herself at the end of Chapter 1 where she went "lets go back there tomorrow", the Dark World is a prison
this is funny
The eyes are straight up using Catti's palette now.
Should i put the eggs in the freezer?
all windows lead to the same link except all but one of the windows has it scrambled. The first set is easy because it scrambles per word, the second set will be harder because it scrambles the letters but the principle is the same
a better question would be it would be as popular/how differently would it be received if it was released as one complete game
I accept your concession
Everyone I don't like is a tranny
Meds, now
Catti is into demon summoning
Hmmmm.
not everybody, you are though.
fuzzy cwitters
Papyrus will not be in Deltarune at all.
I don't mean we never get to see him because we're not allowed in the house or whatever, I mean the brother Sans is referring to that he wants you to hang out with isn't Papyrus.
I think the fact chapter 1 was released as a demo definitely helped get the ball rolling. But it wouldve been popular either way, due to the whole connections to Undertale deal
I played a game recently that crashes if you try to print screen at an easter egg, I hope toby implements some ingame reaction to you screenshotting something at some point in DT
Been replaying Deltarune from the beggining and it is pretty weird the tone change at the start of chapter 2 everything feels heavier some way
what game?
/thankyou seems to have changed btw. It no longer asks for inputs and simply just says thank you.
I entered in some bullshit because I didn't know you'd only get one shot with your email. Oh well.
I like how undertale had theories based on reason while you walk into a deltarune thread and it's like
HOLY SHIT THE EGGS, THE EGGS ARE THE KNIGHT MOVEMENT IN CHESS, THE MAN IN THE TREE'S CONTROLS THE EGGS AND THE EGG'S ARE ACTUALLY FROM SATAN
A DEER FELL INTO THE CODE, SHE IS THE KEY TO EVERYTHING
WE NEED THE VEIL TO REVEAL THE DARK TO TIME TRAVEL BACK TO THE PAST TO UNVEIL THE SECRETS OF REALITY, IF WE JUST GET THE DEER TO FREEZE THE CHICKEN WE CAN ALTER REALITY
THE SONG FROM THE SEA IS ACTUALLY FROM A FEVER DREAM THAT HAS BEEN PROPHESIED FOR OVER 10 YEARS WHEN THE LIGHT AND DARK OVERLAP TO CREATE THE TWILIGHT REVERIE
THE ROARING IS UPON US, THE END IS NIGH
If I don't like someone I cut off they/them dicks so it's always true.
I got one called ROOTS. What do I do next?
I'm 95% certain he's talking about Void Stranger
click the tree a few times
void stranger, very schizopuzzlecore, more so than everything surrounding DR even. It's sokoban though
Undertale was a complete game. Deltarune is a 2/7th's completed game. That's the difference.
Undertale theorists had ten years to work with full information on their hands while Deltarune is still only 30% complete. It's like studying geology on Earth versus studying it on Mars.
Even with absolute power all it took was Frisk telling him that his waifu(Chara) will never love him and he immediately folded. If Azzy wasn’t a lil bitch he could have killed frisk in his omega form
oh, i've heard good things about that game. guess it's time to finally take it out of my backlog
Nothing about Gaster or its "subjects" made much sense in general we literally have not reached a conclusion on that one, while everything else in Undertale requires no theorizing its all in the game
I REJECT SCHIZO THEORYCRAFTING
QUEENFUCKERS WWA
Temmiebro when are you gonna meet your hero in person, and then eat her?
Undertale theorists had ten years to work with full information
Now I wonder what kind of theories were going around when all they had to work with was the UT demo.
I have met her in person more than one at conventions.
Nobody seeing the obvious Homestuck reference
How new are you guys?
ICE-E, a dog-like creature, is able to appear around multiple Dark Worlds in some shape or form, retaining his iconic visage
FRIEND, a cat-like creature, is presumably able to appear around multiple Dark Worlds in some shape or form, retaining his iconic visage
both of their names are in all-caps
one minor theory which i think was supposed to be a "leak"? that for some reason stuck with me all these years was that sans and papyrus were going to be shopkeepers
i don't remember any other theories besides this one for some reason.
You weren't there for the Sans theories.
Now I'm on thepoorchildren. If I click and drag with my mouse it lets me draw on the page.
No spoilers please but the last thing i remember is making the duck mech to beat the queen.
Has the game updated since then?
How do i update it?
I was thinking about the chess theory
CH1 = King
CH2 = Queen
CH3 = ???
CH4 = BISHOP (church)
CH5 = Knight
Pawn = ??? (need 2 more if 7 chapters, doesn't fit)
I was thinking Chapter 3 would be Rook, but I dont see how a rook would be involved. Maybe the words "crook" come out in like a neon sign, and it shows as "rook" instead.
I think it'd be more popular, to be honest. A lot of people aren't a fan of the chapter release structure, with some saying that they feel no desir to play the game until it's complete or that they outright have no interest in it due to it; it'd also have a better image, because there'd be less to shit on Toby Fox for. The uncertainty of a staggered release isn't something people really enjoy, with pretty much everyone tolerating it because they like the game enough to accept that this is how it is, or aren't the type to let unchangeable realities bother them.
I think that individual non-main characters would be much less popular, though. If it released with all 7 chapters, Jevil and probably also Spamton would be overshadowed and have their popularity averaged out by the rest of the cast; the episodic release structure does give people a lot of time to ruminate on the individual characters and content of each chapter, if nothing else.
Keep drawing. You will find something eventually.
Don't lie if you got heartbroken by your waifu you would fold, too.
Did you get a photo or an autograph with her?
I will NEVER read homestuck (because of this I also will never know why people say it’s ending was catastrophically bad)
wait doesn't spamton call tenna a crook
yeah but im not posting them for obvious reasons. Dont wanna doxx myself. Shes incredibly attractive and cute in person.
bros looking like a pikmin character here
Now that you mention it, 1/2bladekind should have popped up in my head. Still, I don't believe there's a moment with cutting an apple or a sink in half in Homestuck.
something being cut in half is a homestuck reference
Dirk isn't even cut in half in that image, just decapitated
Draw for a while, specifically the center. Don't get your hopes up though, you've reached basically the end of this particular road.
There's something else though. Maybe check somewhere else on the Sweepstakes page. Try the Silence section.
CH3 = ???
rook?
(need 2 more if 7 chapters, doesn't fit)
pawn and pawn that underwent pawn promotion
thats why I brought it up.
Again, there are no more pieces after knight/pawn. So it doesn't quite add up, unless someone can fill in whats missing
there's also (you) the player
Chapters 3 and 4 are coming out in June. We're just devouring the scraps given to us by the new sweepstakes update
number 7 is obviously grandmaster
Asriel did indeed wield ultimate power in Undertale, the problem is he was up against (You), the player, who has an even ultimate-r power, which is being the player, who needs a game they can play and complete.
The Legends of Localization on Undertale explicitly states that Frisk's Determination is actually yours, and that they're "just along for the ride" hence why you never get any pushback on whatever you do.
That's why you start refusing death outright mid-battle against Asriel, and endure his desperation attack so hard that you bullshit decimals. If Asriel is a God, then you're the unfathomable primordial nothingness from which that God was a byproduct of, because nothing requires something to be properly considered "nothing."
the grand return of grandpa Semi...
any sign of /thankyou/'s result?
why is catalog not refreshing?
sometimes people just draw something so intriguing you can't help but become it
nobody has come forward, so either somebody fucked it with a bad email or people hitting the server directly closed it for good
Ralsei has set us up
i believe this but I don't think his plan involves the titans
i fear the worst
some youtube nigger got it
they are going to hold the result hostage as they fabricate a video on it
kanye gets the supa sekrit knowledge and doesn't even know how to interpret it.
sadge
Hope you don't mind, if you're stalking Temmie then I'm stalking you. I'm SSing all your posts, gonna print them out and make a mural out of 'em
what if i screw up the email... and now i won't get the secret
This scared me really bad
The Queen isnt really the Queen, Card Kingdom had its own Queen counterpart card done, the Queen in Cyberworld is a computer
Im fine with that. Be sure to print out the pictures of my dick too ill even provide you with another dick pic if you post proof of a mural.
it's been a while since you lot have been reminded
The Roaring happens no matter what, all we do in game is determine what party member we end the game with as everyone else dies.
By default it will be Ralsei. Going snowgrave will leave us with Noelle. Going full opposite by filling up Castle Town or whatever will leave us with Susie. You will need to get every ending to progress past a certain point in the game.
Spec ops the sans undertale
Papyrus was such a shutin he only saw the sun for the first time in the end of Undertale.
W D GASTER RAPED AND KILLED A GIRL IN 1997
idk, you tell me OP
He did it again. I can't take this anymore.
it's a nice fall day outside
This fucking dog...
Acts 1-5 are genuinely good. Act 6 is a travesty that starts off decent, but watching Hussie's writing quality nosedive in favor of spite against his audience is fascinating.
Catti thinking that Noelle was saying that she wanted to pet her doesn't mean that she's a lesbian. That's like saying you're gay for petting your male cat
Oh, but that's the problem - it wasn't catastrophically bad, quite the opposite, it was merely underwhelming. You have this massive, sprawling saga, a modern epic, and it ends not with a bang, but with a whimper. And to add insult to injury, Toby Fox had more or less the same ending in Undertale, yet he pulled it off perfectly.
I miss Gilbert GottFRIEND
This, all it really means is that Catti was basically the same as the rest of her family until she got into the occult.
something something, a cat is fine too.
this shit is just twin peaks amd you're all going to get lynched
tldr eat shit faggots
That's not a pet cat, that's a person. And don't act like it doesn't line up. That would explain all to well why Catti hates Susie.
games popular? could've fooled me. is it just you people stuck in 2016? undertale and delta are like nonexistent in the gaming scene these days. metashit was seen as new and refreshing back in the dya but no1 cares now.
What happened?
She's a cat person
Dumb ESL, the games are still hugely popular even if they aren't being evergreen discussed like gachashit and Fortnite.
Japan especially is still obsessed with them, which also just so happens to be Toby's primary audience ever since he became a celebrity there.
you sound raped
they've become a legacy thing that are widely known and respected but not oft discussed because of age. look at toby's twitter engagement, there's a wide audience. the hype will reignite when the chapters drop.
The face appeared very suddenly and made a loud sound akin to a laugh and the face grew.
the fun gang finally meet Gaster
KRIS, YOU REMIND ME OF A SMALL MEXICAN CHI WOW WOW
Yeah what I assume is the Titans are what happens if the Darkness overwhelms the light, and the Angels are what happens when the Light overwhelms the darkness. that said its all very much a metaphor, the world of Darkness is escapism. I think Ralsei is trying to hasten the Dark World's demise while the Knight is trying to hasten the Light World's demise. The Shadow Crystals give us a good perspective on Kris's mindset, he sees Susie as someone that looks at him coldly, he has no real friends, hes trying to distance himself from this world and hates your interference. If my theory that "Darker than Dark" means death/coma and what the Queen sought was to keep Noelle asleep (or rather in this world) then I assume anybody will do. In Chapter 2's Weird route case, Berdly will do. Nobody will miss him even if hes gone in order to sustain the Cyber World's existence. I wonder if Dess's death was also the start of the Dark World. Ralsei is a complete mystery to me though, is he acting like a subconscious to Kris, but in an opposite direction to that of Omori?
QUEENFUCKERS WWA
Right here
I went to that old chapter 3 teaser, got a page called "no one will shed a tear for him". clicked a black square, then got sent to a page called chapter 3 which says not applicable. Additionally if I go back to the no one will shed a tear page it's name changes to "You can never defeat us!! Lets rumble!". Is that all of it?
yeah catti totally doesn't have a crush on noelle.
Judy?
yurifags are already switching gears from suselle to catti and noelle
lol
Still seems a bit off to me. Especially when its Toby "make your waifu a dyke" Fox writing it.
True, but every single Toby Fox character is at least bisexual by default, so it don't matter
then got sent to a page called chapter 3 which says not applicable
Hold left in that page.
She's a catperson that presumably enjoys being pet, the same way human women in real life are comfortable doing eachother's hair or makeup while still being straight. Considering how young they are, it's infinitely more plausible that it's just a joke about Catti not being familiar with videogames and thought Noelle was asking to pet her.
And Catti hating Susie can be explained by her just thinking that she's unstable and a bad person to be around, as everyone in her class thinks except Kris and Noelle. They don't need to be love rivals for it to make sense
Trvth nvke
Boomers itt malding.
ha-ha it's all big gotcha rugpull prank joke on player
I'm glad he got all that good writing out of his system early on.
Toby is a well known yurifag. We're only following his lead.
Undyne is the only character I can see being an exception to that rule. And maybe Toriel, but on the opposite direction.
Left what, left mouse? Left arrow? Left page scroll? The left side of the screen?
Fellow architecs.
What is your take on dick correcting Catti?
Arrow Key.
Wait until you see what she says about Jockington.
Left key.
Here
We're not gonna talk about Gaster
In fact we're not going to talk about Gaster at all
- Toby, prob
Well you're following wrong lead then, because Toby is femdomfag, not yurifag.
why do shartyfags speak like that
Hussie really broke after his father died I think that was when the giga-paused started happening
where do you people even get that Toby is a yurifag? the guy has ships with every gender combination on his games
if there is a page called chapter3, don't you have any curiosity if there are pages for the other chapters?
but... came in from the right side. Now what?
Catti is a chuuni and calls Noelle the light because she's blonde and positive. You guys are too shipbrained and see every interaction as the characters secretly wanting to fuck. Noelle isn't even the only person Catti speaks positively of
Imagine how smelly her feet get in those high heels ha ha ha.
People completely misread his intention with Undyne/Alphys.
That's it. It's just a big hint that Chapter 3 is going to have a batshit crazy Weird Route on the same level as 2, but it requires a lot more effort to accomplish, possibly even chapter-hopping/save-hopping similar to how there's an underlying mystery on how you're supposed to get the Shadow Mantle to defeat the Chapter 3 Schizo Boss.
It's very interesting to see the way he was thinking about games and player choice this early on. The execution may have been poor but the seeds for Undertale and Deltarune were already planted in his mind here
Reminder:
"She never smiled?" is a null argument and it's what happens when you don't input ANYTHING. It's not the answer.
Probably would've been a much bigger explosion than when chapter 1 first released, but the hype would die down after uhh, 7 years of the game being out? I know that a certain BIG SHOT would be less special at the very least.
The Shadow Mantle is the Blanket from Elmo in Grouch-Land. No one fucking believes me but the mike matei references make ME believe.
Also there's the possibility spamton was named after this: youtube.com
Halloween Hack was released all the way back in 2008
Damn.
Not to mention that she smiles even when it's not appropriate. XP X) X)
Show me a wholesome normal relationship in a Toby Fox game. There are none because Toby is gayyyyy. Also he's a male writer writing female characters and also a tumblrite so no way he's writing a fully feminine character, they're all gonna be tomboyish, gay, or based on his mom.
no way he's writing a fully feminine character
Ralsei
There's no music playing at the start of Chapter 2, right? That's probably why.
Dogamy and Dogaressa.
Anon, would you mind elaborating on how that song is related to Spamton?
Yup. Before he worked on Homestuck or had the fever dream or anything. The concept of the hack is derisively compared to Spec Ops: The Line sometimes, but Spec Ops: The Line didn't release until 2012. He was ahead of the game and no one really cared because it was in shitty edgy ROM hack format
Toby Fox is an avid shitposter.
Toby fox used to go on Anon Babble and Anon Babble a lot for Homestuck threads.
Toby Fox went on Anon Babble and talked about how Anon Babble was being silly in regards of undertale, and begged Anon Babble specifically not to shit up the games discussion.
These are all facts.
The theory comes in where That toby fox is making Deltarune in direct response of Anon Babble's/The American fanbase in general's lack of regard to the themes of the first game.
jessie what the fuck are you talking about
Toby making Deltarune out of spite for the fanbase is the dumbest theory around.
I think it's good that Toby is gimping Deltarune's popularity by doing a staggered release because nothing good comes from mainstream appeal except more money for Toby which isn't my concern.
I think if you take the games at face value then they're still fun and well-made. The theory shit is what keeps discussion alive though and Toby damn well knows this.
Post images of great power.
I don't think it'll all be spite but there will be a lot of it at least in terms of Asriel/Ralsei.
Ice Blocks are constantly thrown into the CORE to cool it
Gaster also fell into the CORE
Every day i realize something that makes ICE-E being real more plausible
Self-fellating delusional take.
No spoilers please but the last thing i remember is making the duck mech to beat the queen.
Has the game updated since then?
How do i update it?
Also i fucking love beardly. Just wanted to add.
Even more important is that OFF released in 2008 too, which quickly became Toby's biggest inspiration for exploring the metanarrative of the player's direct relationship with the world of a game.
It stopped being a simple matter of "none of these bad things would've happened if you never pushed start." and expanded into what we're looking at here and now.
I wonder if it's getting a switch 2 version specifically so it can support mouse control gimmicks for some minigame/attack pattern
Get {frozen}
What do you think jockington did?
deltarune.com/weather
so this thing is undeniably tied to spamton for multiple reasons at this point
jevil gets more cucked by the day
fat bitch got stuck, lmao
THE WEATHER
ALWAYS
STICKS TOGETHER
One-man DP
the cat element was real
There's Dave's whole thing with apple juice.
Spamton met FRIEND after he lost Gaster
[[Amazed at thi5 amazing transformation? You too can]] HAVE A [[Communion]] WITH [[Unintelligble Laughter]]
Song comes from a series of business related stock songs that released in 1997
From a musician named MICHAEL STANTON
MIKE SPAMTON
IN 1997
The other songs released by the same artist are FUCKING HYMNS, aka HEAVEN music
And WESTERN MUSIC if you're a woody schizo
It all adds up. Mike Spamton 1997 Business Hymns and Western Music
He's a good businessman.
This one, one of the westerns, is even WRITTEN like Spamton's dialogue
I wonder though... Jevil met a strange man but we didnt get specifications of who, maybe he did meet Spamton, and Spamton met the cat, then who did the cat meet?
Noelle said she made a pet in cat petterz based off of catti. Maybe that's what friend is.
it clearly worked considering how the majority of krusie and kriselle shit is people self inserting into kris
DR and UT aren't actually connected at all, Gaster was someone from the "Outside" who tried to find the "connection" between them both and ended up torn apart by his project, now trying to link the two together at his damned hardest but can't do it directly; thus, is driving key people schizo in hopes that a connection will be made, and when his headcanon is validated he'll become "whole" again.
Sans is just a shitposter friend who got caught up in the experiment somehow, has awareness, and knows it's all bogus nonsense anyhow and that's how he can remain so aloof even regarding the events of UT.
Gaster's words when he becomes "whole" again is "You're Welcome".
are you not familiar with how song titles are frequently written
Toby's first game was made out of spite for potential players.
If he writes another Vriska/Terezi as the literal 'God's Light and Love' at the heart of the story I will fucking kill him.
I've never seen a song title written like this before. Also that's Dess's fucking guitar in the thumbnail.
DR and UT aren't actually connected at all
Even if you read it now, it wouldn't give you the same 15 years of buildup for the payoff when Penumbra Phantasm drops in Deltarune. You'll never truly understand.
Unless going back to Chapter 1 with the Shadow Mantle gives him something else.
I've never seen a song title written like this before.
Found the guy who's "just not really into music" and exclusively listens to video game OSTs.
that's Dess's fucking guitar in the thumbnail
It's just an acoustic guitar, man
getting a lot of boss baby vibes
If he writes another Vriska/Terezi as the
I'm going to stop you right there because there is literally nothing Toby could do to make Susie be Vriska 2 short of complete character assassination.
Why do people think Penumbra Phantasm is going to show up?
LEFTHALF RIGHTHALF
LEFT HAND PATH
KRIS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE LEGEND
PLAYERS ON LEFT SIDE OF COMBAT
LEFT TO RIGHT MOVEMENT
Kriselle and Krusiebros how we holding up?
Never mind that Toby expressly wants you to play Undertale before playing Deltarune, and encouraged people to grab Undertale while it was on sale for extremely cheap. There's clearly a lot about Deltarune that's meant to be elevated with the Undertale experience prior, even if the full extent isn't yet apparent.
Anon, that's just a normal guitar.
It still blows my mind that Penumbra Phantasm was hidden in Hopes and Dreams.
literally nothing Toby could do to make Susie be Vriska 2 short of complete character assassination.
You don't know that. We're already past the author-intervention line (marked with a yellow yardstick) with the Annoying Dog shit in chapter 2.
I'm not crazy I AM NOT CRAZY
I-I can't contain it... I'm about to self insoot again... I'M SELF INSOOTIIINNNGGG
What is the dumbest ship that could plausibly could exist and piss off the most amount of people? Asking for a friend.
You don't know that.
Susie and Vriska's characters are so vastly fucking different that I'm convinced you don't even remember how bad Vriska actually was, ESPECIALLY in Act 6.
You take that back. Susie is nowhere near as annoying as that shitty spider bitch.
Krerdly (also confirming Femkris)
we're only on act 2
don't count your irons before they're out of the fire
Why do people think Penumbra Phantasm is going to show up?
The edge of the shadow, where reality and dream meet.
"AT 'SHADOW'S EDGE,' SHATTER THE TWILIGHT REVERIE
THREE HEROES APPEARED TO BANISH THE ANGEL'S HEAVEN
Noelle/Spamton
Susie/Ralsei
It pisses off Kris/Susie shippers, it pisses off Susie/Noelle shippers, it pisses off Kris/Ralsei shippers, and they actually have chemistry so it's not a meme pick.
Susie and Berdly
Everyone seems to universally agree that Krerdly is the funniest possibility, though, and outrage would solely be from gendering Kris rather than the pairing.
frans
I don't remember because I blocked off most Hussie relates things in my brain. I am willing to listen to a refresher.
Asriel with any female
Asriel never actually lost the power he had at the end of Undertale. Everything that happened during the true ending of that game was constructed to satisfy the player entity and get them to fuck off. After that, he constructed an ideal reality for himself, where he currently lives the normal life he never had the chance to live.
Gaster, who is STILL exiled to whatever meta hell he exists in despite the rewriting of reality, is obviously unhappy that he's been left out again. The dark world shenanigans were all engineered by him. They're his attempt at catching Asriel's attention, with the hope that Asriel can free him from his current state of existence somehow.
But that ship isn't dumb at all.
Well, the question is a contradiction. If it's dumb then it's not plausible.
The most important part you didn't mention is that the first two quotes come from around the time Toby had his fever dream about Deltarune's ending, and we know it hit him like a truck considering he immediately devoted himself to learning how to make a full-fledged game in order to make that ending real.
No not Literally as those characters but their relationships, you know, The Vriska/Terezi "Gnostic Lesbian Holy Love that reaches through Time and Space" that ends up saving the day.
Susie must not be a lesbian or I will kill Toby "Radiation" Fox
implying we're getting penumbra phantasm and not Umbral Ultimatum
Incredible. I thought I was the only one who had the theory.
aren't there a bunch of people already shipping him with Dess?
Pales in comparison to the people who desperately want him (and Dess) to be fags.
staying with you for a while lads
'log and the main page are frozen
One day fag you'll piss off the wrong retard and your doxx will be posted across the internet. I know you posted your gay little discord on here more than once and after that its just a matter of effort.
Would Cell become a femboy after this?
"No one will shed a tear for him..."
I don't have an autism collage saved
Could also point to the new ARG referencing the end of Link's Awakening, which is also about going from dream to reality and explicitly uses the phrase "THE WAKING WORLD"
Please stop feeding it. It's my fetish but I know not to reply to this guy
I'm going to pirate all the chapters and don't give toby a single dollar
imagine being a leftist
Okay i gues im all retarded. Where do you guys find all this new lore on the spamton sweepstakes page? Wheres the drawing thing? And the smiling face?
Berdly amalgam? Also where's the art from?
You can't put the email in deltarune.com
deltarune.com
The two links at the bottom can take you to all the new pages.
"old song coming from the sea"
the bit of penumbra phantasm that plays at the end of descend is accompanied by whale sounds
I want to believe
rightfags are fucking retarded
hurr durr i get le best ending because i went le right way!!!
leftism is the only way for progress
x.com
HELL YEAH BROTHERS
The Shadow Mantle is the Blanket from Elmo in Grouch-Land.
Go to bed Mike Matei
Right rhymes with light
Fuck leftfags
What artist?
Even better
ill let u even join my discord try to doxx me nigga i dare you
discord gg/375D5Ps
it's not everyday you see cell vore toriel on cp_dustbowl
tobert made the left and right part of the schizotheories
SASUGA TOBY-SAMA
penumbra
twilight
the edge of the shadow
when the light is running low and the shadows start to grow
phantasm
reverie
where reality and dream meet
and the places that you know seem like fantasy
Correction: I sincerely HOPE he got all that out of his system early on.
All the Christmas themes, the Flowers and the "goner" concept of "imagine the world if you never existed" which is what goner kid says in undertale gaster events and what Kris (player?) sees through the shadow crystals, is referencing the plot of the movie It's a Wonderful Life, which coincidentally is also a Christmas movie involving an ANGEL
Susie must not be a lesbian or I will kill Toby "Radiation" Fox
What if she's bi? What if we get a monster girl harem with Kris?
burgerpants
この外人には腹が立つ...。
私はORIENTAL スターワアー
dorb
Fucking kek.
Penumbra Phantasm implies the existance of Penumbra Extra
fair. but didn't he have a weirdly charged interaction with the nice cream guy?
www
Too much Grillbys
Toby if he truly appealed to the JP fanbase.
Grillbys
Anon-domo-ranpachi-sama...
Where the fuck are you even getting these you autismo, lol
that was added in a patch iirc, pretty much almost like a response to the ship's existence in the fandom
youtube.com
Spamton was a Big Time reference.
Anything made by Toby Fox can be connected back to the Genesis discography alongside the solo discographies of its members.
i just want to see niggeralsei again...
Already exists and it doesn't piss anyone off because apparently the majority of "I want Asriel to be a flaming gayboy" people speed-read that part of the game.
He made sure to specify that it's also an incestuous relationship just to damper it (kinda based tho, maybe)
Yeah same
Those are some huge lips
implying the incest doesn't make even more wholesome
THE MINECRAP REFERENCES
IT'S POINTING TO MIKE MATEI
THE SHADOW MANTLE IS THE BLUE BLANKET ON THE CHAIR
LIKE THE BLUE BLANKET IN ELMO IN GROUCH LAND
AND WE'LL FIND THE BLANKET IN TRASHY
I made them.
BONSAI
WE WUZ SEALING FOUNTAINS AN SHIET
Black Ralsei will be a $10 cosmetic and Toby will make millions from it
it's a one way thing
nice cream guy wants burgy to listen to his jokes and the 'jokes' are like "i hope you have a nice day" and the last bit of BP's spirit breaks at the sheer stupidity going on before him. at most you could say MAYBE Burgerpants is prison gay (hotland gay?) but Pezzapants talks about chicks exclusively and is currently being catfished by someone sending him photos of pizza
does the skin come with naked ralsei?
Asriel went to the prom with Catty
Made out with Bratty
Jerked off so hard to the sexy dragon book that the book is just one giant solid brick of semen now
And people will still call him gay.
Asriel didn't collect Napstablook's soul. Napstablook says that he shut his curtain and wasn't taken
someone post that image of a fan-made hatless version of his original sprite that mogged the fuck out of his real hatless sprite
That's Kris jerking to the sexy dragon book, he steals his brothers book to goon
the fact that napstablook did almost literally just pic related will never not make me laugh
i unironically think that the halloween hack was toby's experience with repressing his own homosexuality
Anon...
Your brother will NEVER return this book.
I think you only needed "nearly every" monster soul.
It was actually him EXPOSING his own homosexuality. Like his write-up has a whole thing about Dr. Andonuts and how Toby thinks there should be more gay people in video games that aren't just stereotypes or jokes (somehow).
kino...
Effeminate men and tomboy women turn me on to no end. I feel like me and Toby Fox were separated at birth.
Yeah, because he knows what Kris did with it.
I didn't say it was a SERIOUS theory, but then again if you didn't get the punchline in the spoiler text there's no hope of making it clear anyhow.
Kris has a track record of liking purple scaly creatures
Wow so daring, quoting what 90% of the suselle community believes so they can make kris a genderless third wheel.
jockington is the snake
kris the apple
the tree on deltarune.com
this is getting biblical
Kris is a barneyfag?
Is Annie Dess?
so jockington will be the temptor?
this your long lost brother?
The Sans we saw in Undertale is the future of the Sans we see in Deltarune, but the Knight we'll see in Deltarune is the future of the Chara we saw in Undertale.
Not shitposting by the way. Did you know Toby specifically sent takedowns to both the Internet Archive and the Wayback Machine to prevent his old blog from being archived and stopping people from reading what he had to say about proto-Deltarune? However, you can still use the former to read the latter, which is funny.
It was born of a combination of many things I had been thinking about at the time - the lack of non-stereotypical, major homosexual characters in media, the staleness of a fifteen-year-old video game, the player's conciousness of their own decisions in video games, and the fact that it seemed that most people generally thought I was just "another funny guy."
Is Annie OK?
Deltarune schizo seeing a guitar for the first time:
COME ON COME ON IT'S REAL IT'S FUCKING REAL
idk just something to think about, could all just be one big coincidence.
Everyone knows Ralsei is suspicious as fuck and has too much information he shouldnt have access to, but he still talks to Kris rather than the player? Is that not suspicious? That Ralsei talks specifically to the guy opening Dark Fountains behind the player's back?
dragon quest blue slime
Dark Fountains
(s)
anon the schizo thing is just supposed to be a joke
Personally, The Big Shot Revolving was my favorite Stanton song
Fake lead, see for a true answer.
Keep going. I'm starting to believe you are onto something, schizoanon.
When should we expect response emails to show up for the /thankyou page? I think it'd be overkill if we had to wait a whole month.
Ralsei is OUR guide, his job is to make sure WE enjoy this Dark World adventure and he's not gonna let some brutish Barney the Dinosaur knockoff and her blue twink friend fuck that up for us.
He probably told him he'd be opening a Dark Fountain so we have an adventure to go on.
Kris is going to play his fucking part.
Continuing from my theory in , I believe Kris is the second voice in the intro, and that being in Kris was not part of the plan. So Ralsei sends us away so he can talk with Kris and explain why he needs to railroad us and asks for Kris's cooperation. This is also why Kris opens a fountain no matter what. It's part of the script, Ralsei asked this of Kris in Chapter 1, the one time their secret talk is unskippable.
Can't tell if you're the same person but stop replying to that guy. Don't let him derail the thread
There’s a reason why Robert made ralsei so flamboyantly gay to compensate
No one will shed a tear for him.
toby fox is writing personalized emails for each response
now i feel dumb for my first (and only recorded) answer being "1" with only the other ones being good
pretty sure that's just a side-effect from him trying to prevent people from seeing all the personal files he was hosting on his blog rather than him wanting to suppress that specific blog entry
Homestuck was all about that Gnosticism, so Deltarune is also about Gnosticsm. In which the Snake was actually a good guy, since he went against the tyrant God who wanted to keep humans as his ignorant pets and gave humans the forbidden enlightenment of knowledge
You're both fags.
I cannot think of any plainer, in your face wording than, "Asriel borrowed this book 8 YEARS AGO and he has REFUSED to give it back."
Yeah, Kris likes Susie. This is irrelevant to the game literally telling you that it was Asriel who basically stole this book.
dr andonuts (corrupted) will be the final schizboss and he will turn directly to the camera and call (You) a faggot
ralsei is the deltarune equivalent of trisha/ishtar
I used a generated email because I assumed it was a automatic thing where you would get a response if you guessed right, now I have to make sure I don't accidentally close or refresh the page until then which I inevitably will.
Did Catty went to prom with him? I don't remember. I recall she was talking about she had something of a romantic relationship with Asriel (which is a little dubious, especially given her relationship with Bratty in this game).
I mean, they are brothers. It's not surprising they have similar taste in girls.
what I'm hearing is Asriel will come back home and cuck Kris and Noelle by fucking Susie
You never heard of stealing your bro's porn stash? There's a reason Kris has a type
this one i'll admit is a stretch but the dogcheck room can EITHER be a Spanish song or a lullaby, though that's honestly just coincidence.
though there is an entire album of water themed stuff
youtube.com
and it ends with a song titled "The Mysterious Night" AKA The Knight
Did Catty went to prom with him? I don't remember.
Anon literally just told you that Catty went to prom with Asriel. In fact, his exact words are: "Asriel went to the prom with Catty." And then you ask,
Did Catty went to the prom with him?
Are you dumb?
The Angel is "God" ie the Demiurge and will be the final boss so I think you're right.
what's a better bonding experience that fucking a girl with your bro?
Yeah. Catty tells you she went to the prom with him, twerked her gigantic fucking double-wided big mac stuffed assmeat all over his dick, and when he nutted in his pants and walked off for a breather, Bratty grabbed him and started tongue-fucking him. And then Catty got so violent the cops showed up.
kris should fuck dess
close but no cigar. catty drank too much of the funny punch, twerked her gigantic fucking doorframe-destroying cellulite dimpled feline flanks in front of toriel, and got arrested in the parking lot. bratty tongue-fucking asriel was a separate incident involving spin-the-bottle, which was the one that led to toriel making him go to church every day for a week
cool FRIEND fanart on Twitter
they're calling him "Mike"
I doubt kris is a necrophile
Mike is Spamton's (former) friend, isn't it? People are assuming they're the same character.
Heaven save you if you forget an [02] code, in which case the text will keep parsing into the next block of text data and the friendly old grandma you're talking to down the street might suffer a schizoid attack and begin spouting dialogue from the final boss - consequentially starting a battle you might be quite unready for.
that's some interesting wording...
Kris should fuck
IT'S NOT FAIR
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
Is she really dead if she's outside time? That's like being undead at the very most.
ONLY THE MEMORY OF THIS DREAM LAND WILL EXIST IN THE WAKING WORLD...
Uh.... Ralsei based bros
things we know:
If a monster dies he turns into dust
Berdly can suffer damage to the arm in the normal route and that will carry over to the Light World
Berdly can straight up die in the Dark World during Snowgrave, which results in him not waking up (but presumably not dead as he didnt turn into dust)
Death in the Dark World = coma? This is the Darker than Dark?
Look man, I just meant where was that in the game, I haven't played it in years. I'm replaying it now but I'm stuck at the Jevil fight.
slight correction: it was truth or dare, not spin the bottle
sorry
Kris has a crush on Dess as a kid but there's a massive age gap
She disappears in the Void outside time
Kris manages to save her years later
Dess never aged because she was outside time and now they are the same age.
ludokinography
He's fallen down so he might just be dying.
Between the graves and the total lack of magic anything in the Light World, do monsters even dust?
Do we know if they turn into dust in the DeItarune world?
but there's a massive age gap
It's like a year or two at most. Pizzapants is the same age as Asriel, isn't he? If anything, Dess would be younger than the main characters now if she were truly trapped outside of time.
The tree will obviously be a reference to Yggdrasil.
This is the face of a man that ravages doe pussy every night
Berdly has Fallen Down.
not yet, but I hope we get an answer because I don't want to wait 5+ years for the rest of the game to know that
Kris is such a loner, he has no friends
Game shows us he was basically childhood friends with everyone in his class.
Played games with Berdly
hung out with Catti doing occult stuff
spent time with Noelle and Dess
Now has a new bff in Susie
I wish this is what being a loser with no friends was like for me.
Monsters fall down before turning to dust. We don't have an exact timeframe but if you reread Alphys's logs she starts panicking when the bodies don't turn to dust yet so there is an expected time to pass.
The graves make a pretty strong case.
each grave emphasizes an item
undertale stated that the dust of a monster is spread on their favorite item
alvin mentions "this hammer" in the cemetery
Maybe Lighters can't exactly die in Dark Worlds but their consciousness might end up trapped in them, resulting in their bodies acting as a vegetable. What if Dess suffered a similar fate and her body is no more, so she's just a disembodied consciousness hidden in some forgotten Dark World?
Fuck I remember this fucking tree from the lockstin x and y theory years
berdly is the bird, noelle's family are the deers en.wikipedia.org
FUCK
It bothers me so much when people play up the "Kris is a total autistic weirdo" angle. That motherfucker is friends with everyone in town. EVERYONE. What the FUCK.
Kris IS a total autistic weirdo. Still friends with everyone somehow but if you listen to literally any of Noelle's childhood stories, Kris is weird as hell.
Below LV 20 Chara.
kris is just a little quirky
everyone is, it's a toby game. i don't know what the hangup is.
It's culdesac syndrome, if he wasn't forced to interact with a small cohort of people his age he'd be an outcast.
That depends on whenever you believe Kris, Noelle, Susie, etc are high schoolers or middle schoolers
Kris might be still odd, but they were evidently much more socially outgoing. This withdrawn attitude is a much more recent thing, but people still remember that Kris is just a relatively harmless weirdo. At most, they're concerned over them.
absolutely no one considers them middle schoolers other than retarded twitterites looking for rage bait
Except it's Kris initiating things. Hell, even Bratty of all people points it out.
Remember the time you wanted to hang out with us big kids?
No one forced Kris to play Smash with berdly or do weird cult shit with Catti, there's more there than just the friends-through-proximity syndrome.
it's a numbers thing, I was pretty acoustic as a kid but there only 10 kids in my year since the school was tiny so everyone got on well enough with everyone
did none of you were autistic but sociable as kids and then lost all of your extrovertness as you grew older?
Things we know:
That little rabbit behind the door thinks that having blood is strange
Despite apparently not having organs or blood or anything like that, monsters can get injured and go to the hospital
Rudy is literally a living (lol) contradiction to Undertale's "Monsters die when they're sad and unmotivated" rules
Monsters exclusively eat real food, which is contradictory to Undertale (and contradictory to the idea that they don't have organs) and Susie is some kind of weird freak in order to obscure this fact
Gerson probably died of fucking old age
to both the Internet Archive and the Wayback Machine
those are the same thing
I was pretty acoustic as a kid
glad to hear you're less strung-out now
he he he
they aren't schizo enough
i will stand up and clap if Penumbra Phantasm ever plays in deltarune, i will dance on hussies grave for how he handled homestuck in the end. it would all be worth it.
Rudy is literally a living (lol) contradiction to Undertale's "Monsters die when they're sad and unmotivated" rules
unless monsters die BECAUSE they're sad and unmotivated, which rudy is not
no i think his point is he's claiming that monsters can only die if they're sad and unmotivated
but i have no idea where the hell he got that from
Susie is some kind of weird freak in order to obscure this fact
she's just quirky haha. do you like how she eats weird things? kris does it too aren't they so quirky. haha.
I like to think this is like an AU of Undertale, where, instead o humanity and monster kind being isolated and largely hostile towards each other, they were closer together and perhaps even interbreed with each other to such an extent that both races display characteristics of the other. Maybe the magical essence of monsters somehow allow them to be closer to humanity just by being around them for lonh enough.
Anon you didn't even contradict what I said you just repeated it 1:1.
And you're just jumping to conclusions.
You forgot
Susie says "everybody bleeds, right?"
the warrior says "my blood boils for battle"
Lancer also says he's gonna smash the fun gang into blood and doesn't seem to make a distinction about Kris only.
Humans are such a mysterious new existence to monsters that there are RECENT publications saying things like "How to take care of your human." as if they weren't people
"Hey bros I found this weird monkey in a cave, let's fuck it."
how the fuck am i jumping to conclusions
the only way ruby could contradict "monsters die when they're sad and unmotivated" was if that was the ONLY way they could die
Oh yeah, I forget details like that. Maybe humanity was originally in a much more primitive state relative to Monsterkind and they uplifted them. Whatever advantages humanity might had in terms of raw physical prowess could have been balanced out with technology, kinda like an inverse scenario of the first game.
except that, even in this world, that kind of book isn't only for exotic creatures no one has heard about.
friend inside me~
Humans get locked underground while Monsters roam the surface
An ungodly amount of time passes and everyone on the surface forgets about humanity
For some reason or another, Humans return to the surface
And everything is cool and good like in the UT true pacifist ending.
In this universe people have been fucking dogs and having fucked up half-dog babies for a thousand years
No they're still not considered people
Chapter 3 schizoboss will be Toriels fur in the sink and named Hairingway
Monsters can have blood but it's not an inherent property of them. Napstablook probably doesn't have blood. Susie does, because she's fleshy. Sans has blood
Incidentally, Toriel may not entirely treat humans as people in this Universe either.
Deltarune is gonna be 5 chapters, BUT two additional chapters are gonna be added through undertale. You play the extra chapters in undertale while having both games open. Its Gasters multi dimensional time paradox fuckery at its best.
you're grasping at strings, jumping at shadows. of course a stock music maker will have songs for tons of different things, many of which will intersect with deltarunes many themes (freedom, darkness, heaven, etc)
Man I forgot Napstablook and those fags still exist, goddamn.
All in all though, the conclusion is thus:
It's a gay carry over from Undertale. Toby made a conscious decision to obscure the answer because he wants to make things like Berdly's death less clear-cut.
Toby Foxx. I know you're trying to throw me off your trail. Tell me about the sea. Tell me about the water.
He is a weirdo autismo, but he lives in a town where literally everyone knows each other, and his family is actually really well respected altho kinda on a down turn
Granted, we don't really have an equivalent to this in our world, but it does seem a little weird me how Monsters apparently have to read a book on how to treat another sapient race. It seems to indicate to me that humans are relatively new to monsterkind or/and they're higher than humanity in the hierarchy.
If a magic barrier was what kept monsters inside the underground, maybe monsterkind created a crazy advanced physical gate to lock humans in. But as the eons pass by, the gate just naturally decay and curious humans walked out. Monsterkind either outright forgotten whatever it was that made them want to put humans there or the bad blood just diluted to the point where it didn't matter anymore. Humanity probably didn't have the best relationship with Neatherals or Cro-Magnons, but I imagine we wouldn't try to eradicate them if we found a hidden civilization of such beings in the modern day.
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