Devil May Cry 2 is better than Devil May Cry 5 but Anon Babble is not ready for this conversation

Devil May Cry 2 is better than Devil May Cry 5 but Anon Babble is not ready for this conversation...

Make your case!

Honestly I don’t see what you mean by that.
It’s completely braindead with its combat unlike 5’s 90 percent braindead

5>2>>>>>>>>>>>pissing acid >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3

Best Costume, Weapon, Hair

Worse everything else

I kinda wish DMC was harder.
Don’t gimme that complete moveset and nothing to use it on ffs

better dante characterization

better levels

better story

better writing

lucia

more creative enemy design

combat is only slightly worse

it's an objectively better game

I think DmC is solid.

better dante characterization

Its actually the worst personality, the outfit is the best in the series so far however

better levels

No, some are actually spliced leftovers from the chaotic development it suffered

better story

Barebones unfinished story

better writing

No

lucia

Deserved better

more creative enemy design

On one hand yes on the other hand you get infected chopper/tank

combat is only slightly worse

Combat is a stinker

it's an objectively better game

Nope, sorry

Infested Tank and Chopper deserve another chance. Have the tank charge at you for an attack, have them transform into a demon tank hybrid that came out of Michael Bay Transformers.

Shit that’s a good one

the outfit is the best in the series

DMC2 Dante looks cool in a vacuum but it's a bad Dante design. Dante ought to look debonair, not somber. I think even reboot Dante feels more like Dante than 2 Dante.

Its actually the worst personality

Dark stoic hero >>> wacky pizza meme man

No, some are actually spliced leftovers from the chaotic development it suffered

DMC 2 levels have a much bigger variety in visual design. DMC 5 levels are just 1 big red/white corridor

Barebones unfinished story

yet it still managers to be better than DMC5's fancervicy retread

No

Yes

Deserved better

Still a plus that she is in the game. Meanwhile DMC 5 has trannified lady and trish

On one hand yes on the other hand you get infected chopper/tank

DMC 5 has gilgamesh

Combat is a stinker

Not much worse than DMC 5

Nope, sorry

you know i'm right

DmC is better than DMC2

DmC is unironcally the best game in the series

Dark stoic hero >>> wacky pizza meme man

I'll address this point specifically because it's the most retarded:
Even in 1 he still had some of that personality in him. One of his very first sentences is "Woah, slow down babe" before casually getting stabbed, whipping out his pistols and shooting a motorcycle flying towards him.

Dark stoic hero >>> wacky pizza meme man

doesn't say why

expcets to be taken seriously

DMC 2 levels have a much bigger variety in visual design. DMC 5 levels are just 1 big red/white corridor

Yeah, like all those bland temple levels from Tomb Raider 1?

yet it still managers to be better than DMC5's fancervicy retread

Tell it then, ESL.

Yes

No.

Still a plus that she is in the game. Meanwhile DMC 5 has trannified lady and trish

If she's so hot, why does no one make porn of her?

DMC 5 has gilgamesh

Moving enemies are better than stationary ones.

Not much worse than DMC 5

Sure, explain why then?

you know i'm right

I'm expecting your ai answers in a few minutes.

you have to be baiting or a complete mongoloid to think dmc2s combat is even close to dmc5 in quality

Kys

Dante’s entire deal is that he’s a bit of a whackjob despite his ultimately serious corr
Also compare it to something that isn’t 5.

WHEN DEVIL MAY CRY'S A-ROCKIN' DON'T COME A-KNOCKIN' BABY, YEAH!

Its actually the worst personality,

4 and 5 are worse. It's like they lost all confidence in being genuine after 3 and now he's just a self-aware tongue-in-cheek clown that acts like a 50 year old tennage clutz.

le dark stoic

Bad, Dante has a sense of humor even on his first game, if anything nocturne nailed his dmc2 version pretty well, not an emo nor a wacky clown but cracks a few jokes every now and then

DMC2 Levels

Barren and boring, the city levels are a spliced mess of assets

Combat is better than dmc5

lmao

DMC5 fanservicy story

Okay lets make something clear since thats your gripe, dmc5 story feels like a rushed amalgamation of past games story beats and some forced DmC ideas itsuno absolutely had to include because he couldnt come up with something interesting for 5 but even then that game has a coherent story, dmc2 story is barely there and not even dante shows any interest with whats going on on that game, you can tell by the time dmc5 arrives that nothing from dmc2 ever mattered and feels like a fever dream that never happened

Dante being a “Whacky woohoo” is a misconception. He’s only like that when he’s doing something incredibly over the top like running down the tower, riding a new demonic motorcycle, or deciding that the hat makes him look like Micheal Jackson
Normally his sense of humor is more him saying corny shit like making a road rash joke or telling a bird demon to “Flock off”
Someone said this once but I think what makes Dante work is that all of his jokes and antics feel like he’s doing stuff that he finds cool/funny rather than anything others find cool/funny

Dante ought to look blahblahblah like a beyblade

DMC2 was way too easy. I remember as a kid never dying, and even once actively gaslighting myself into fighting worse to let one of the bosses kill me so I could feel a challenge, but it just couldn’t do it. An objective, unarguable step down from the first game and every other in every way.

Coincidentally, these are games beloved by jeets

Its actually the worst personality,

the thing where he's flipping a coin to decide to help is pretty fucking dumb and not like Dante at all, until you find out it's a double headed coin. He just likes flipping it

Please understand, its all they could play from the bootleg markets growing up.

He literally does his unprompted MJ Dance while thousands of people are being drained of blood in the city below and his brother's demon-half is on his way to eat a fruit that will make him more powerful than Mundus. 5 especially misses the mark with his antics to the point that he's just fucking retarded.

DMC5 is fun
Dmc2 is a slog

I remember now - the pistols were too OP. You could just fucking stand there and shoot and the PISTOLS of all things could raise the enemy into the air and render them helpless.

I think what makes Dante work is that all of his jokes and antics feel like he’s doing stuff that he finds cool/funny rather than anything others find cool/funny

The difference is that in DMC1 he was corny but serious.
DMC3 he's a teenager that has a childish sense of humor, but takes things seriously when it matters.
DMC4 and 5 he's just a clown that lets people get brutally killed in the streets while he does some shakespear bit or dances around because someone gave him a hat.

DMC 2 levels have a much bigger variety in visual design.

I hate this retarded way of thinking where every game needs to be everything at the same time because there's no possible way where more could be less sometimes. No, games need to be completely indistinguishable from one another and all need to be open world adventure slop that doesn't focus on anything.

DMC5 didn't need to have a bunch of different sceneries. It's a game about going through a city destroyed by a giant demonic entity. It has unique maps with unique features and every mission does something unique to it. And it does so while not getting in the way of the gameplay you're there to enjoy. There's plenty of work put into its environments but because the game doesn't go out of its way to shove it in your face people like you completely miss it.

DMC2 is a game about nothing. Sure there's a clocktower level but so what? It's completely meaningless. Remember the ruin levels? Why were you even there for? The game doesn't bother to tell you and it doesn't really matter. There's a port and Dante gets on a bike. Wow. You go to the Uroboros building and there's nothing memorable about it at all.

Variety doesn't matter unless the game is employing it for some purpose. And there's no purpose to just about anything in DMC2. No amount of different PS1 looking levels is going to make the game feel like less of a drag, or give it pacing, or give it direction.

It has unique maps with unique features and every mission does something unique to it.

DMC5 is literally a bunch of long hallways that sometimes fork to get a Nidhogg fetus and sometimes have a flat open arena where enemies or a boss spawns, there's nothing unique about them.

Marionettes in DMC1 can't break out of gun juggles so I guess the game's shit too

Nigga it'd been a month and the fruit was about ripe, the fuck do you want him to do pump the blood back into the drained people? The damage was already done. He doesn't seem preoccupied with the fruit anyway given he gets to Urizen before he eats it and still does fuck-all to stop him from eating it. And then he whoops his ass anyway.

unprompted MJ Dance

It's a weapon showcase, moron. He does it with every new Devil Arm.

while thousands of people are being drained of blood in the city

He was in a coma for a month those people are either dead or left the city.

his brother's demon-half is on his way to eat a fruit

It takes him 30 seconds.

I mean I think that was after the draining had finished, if we want to get technical

Like I said, zero urgency, let's add a lelsorandum scene because the stakes don't matter XDDSD

In DMC2 though it was literally almost every single enemy. Like, all of them could be juggled by the pistols. It was dumb.

Basic bitch enemies being juggled is the same as almost every other enemy

Booo.

in DMC1 he was corny but serious

No, he was only ever serious when it directly concerned his family.

The entire fucking point of Dante as a character is that he laughs in the face of danger and evil.

I accept your concession.

Have you considered Dante is just extra?

I accept your concession.

You could say they borowed the dmc3 boss disrespect and crancked it up to 11 and that hes just his dmc3 self over again, but i noticed every now and then he drops the wacky facade and gets serious or concerned, for example when he is at loss for words when credo dies on him, the shakespear skit i could excuse because trish and lady are in the city cleaning the demon hordes, the MJ dance in 5 kinda dragged on for too long and felt out of place for me honestly, even more so than the shakespear bit from 4

Every game is a corridor if you're a bad faith nigger.

The only DMC enemy designed to break out of juggles is Frosts, get a grip nerd

So is there a reason you made this thread with blatant rage bait? Have normal DMC threads gotten too boring now or something?

I think it’s because he saw this self-serious lunatic scientist and decided “Fuck it I’ll play along before I kick his ass.”

the MJ dance in 5 kinda dragged on for too long

Again, it's 30 seconds long.
youtube.com/watch?v=jNMf_FaiW5M

IIRC they actually had enemies dancing along with him in the storyboards so in reality they majorly toned it down.

He takes his sweet time reviving himself when he gets Alastor.
He stops what he's doing and has a showoff session with every weapon he gets while Vergil prepares for his ritual and the Temen-ni-gru demons rampage the streets.
He toys with all his weapons in DMC4 while the demons are still running loose in Fortuna AND Nero and Kyrie are being slowly absorbed into the savior.
This is not the "gotcha" you think it is.

Your tard wrangler hopefully cuts down on your PC time

He takes his sweet time reviving himself when he gets Alastor.

He's on an island alone.
The rest is just Bingbong Morihashi being a shit-for-brains retard.

Honestly it’d be funny because it’d imply that’s just a fantasy he has

He's on an island alone.

He's literally there to kill the dude who killed his mom who's on the verge of breaking out of hell and destroy the whole world. Trish is there too, along a bunch of demons that want to kill him.

The scene exists because they wanted to put a fucking JoJo reference in the game.

The fact that Anon Babble continues to try and force this to not be one of the cringiest fucking things in modern gaming is unreal.

Being on an island alone is the same as dancing around like a memelord while the world is ending

I think we're done here.

BINTY BLAY DEE EM CEE TOO IZ DA BEST

1 still has the best version of Dante. He was unironically cool without trying too hard. Capcom shat the bed with his characterization after Kamiya fucked off from the company and we're left with modern Dante, who I can barely tolerate to the point that I would have prefer it if they kept him being depressed like he was in 2.

What exactly do you think you've proven?

It's funny how everybody sucks off DMC1 because le deep gothic survival horror atmosphere but now you're acting there's no disconnect in him talking smack to the bosses because... he's by himself?

What?

How much more jokey do you think Dante will be in the DMC 1 remake?

He was unironically cool without trying too hard.

Yeah bro, check this game over screen, it screams restrained, doesn't it?

I'm sure Kamiya would've kept Dante a much more serious character, after all his other games like Bayonetta and Viewtiful Joe are known for being very grounded.

FUCK OFF FEATHERFACE

Bayonetta and Viewtiful Joe are known for being grounded

Leon was a shit character until 6 came around and made him the gun kata master

I hate this guy. I can't be the only one who sees him as a complete loser.

Kill yourself, contrarian retard.

He did not say this.

I'm 99% sure DMC 2 only sucks cause of Itsuno. That hack manages to ruin every franchise he touches.

youtube.com/watch?v=-iHTQ_gfi7U

DMC V ends with Dante and Vergil being trapped in hell for all eternity

ends up in an anime gacha game

What did Capcom mean by this?

far cry 2 does not belong on that list

We've reached ultimate level contrarian

combat is only slightly worse

only slightly worse

slightly worse

slightly

Yes, this is true

Compared to 5? Maybe if you're retarded.

Is it bad I actually kinda want to try this game cause of the collab? It looks like it plays better than poc at the very least.
youtube.com/watch?v=05cNz167p78

I tried it some time ago and it was terrible. The game is nothing but a string of tiny arenas where you fight like 3 mobs that barely do anything at a time. You only get 1 basic combo to mash and 3 abilities that are tied to this weird color matching minigame and an ult. It's also swap-slop like genshit.
Maybe the combat becomes better later but I don't want to shovel literal dogshit into my mouth for hours to see if that's true.

GOTHIC.
ATMOSPHERE.
KINO.

Guess how I can tell you've never played DMC 2? It's not just a bad game, it's probably one of the worse things Capcom has ever put out. Playing it for a few seconds is enough to realize it's not a finished product. Dante feels floaty, he tracks strangely when attacking, and the performance is odd, too. Like the engine and the physics weren't ever finished. The cut scenes aren't finished as the game doesn't even have the exposition of DMC 1. It just sort of starts, and then a few random characters mutter to one another in very clipped, stilted dialog. It's a very strange experience. And speaking of unfinished, a lot of the bosses don't have the ability to attack you. Or, barely function. As in there's a model there, but it doesn't do anything or it goes through weird cyclic phases, which don't reflect on your own positions or behavior in any way.

it's probably one of the worse things Capcom has ever put out

better or worse than PN03

NOOOO, he is supposed to be a mute faggot. Look at this cool artwork

Meanwhile, DMC 1 Dante :

"Flock off!"

"ISHOULDABEENTHEONETOFILLYOURSOULWITHLIIIIIIIIIIIGHT"

He didn't say that doebeit.

you can just try it for the collab, dante and vergil are free to acquire anyway (from the story mode)

Wacky pizza meme man

So are you going to continue parroting reddit memes or are you actually going to play the games, secondarybro?

He's right tho.