Saves the souls of an entire universe from permanent destruction

saves the souls of an entire universe from permanent destruction

Yeah, I'm thinking based.

it's so obviously the canon ending I don't even know why retards here are debating this

Kino ending

I much prefer Alicia's ending, but the devs clearly put Verso's as the preferred "good" ending in a comically emotionally manipulative way.

its just a painting lmfao who cares

Because of the haircut I have literally no clue who this character is lmao

Best end
Look at this happy family.
Except Clea.
Fuck you Clea, go suck off a writer.

this is the true mark of the midwit right here
the path to disaster is explicitly spelled out with that ending and you ignore it because you feel called out on your escapist ways

denies everyone the peace and tranquility of the void

She's evil

If they didn't make the Maelle ending muted and drain the colour and jumpscare you then you absolutely would've said it was the good ending. Instead you get the developer yelling at you 'This is bad! Bad! See, it's bad because it's achromatic! Terrible! You should hate this! Escapism is bad!'

Nah. If you want to end the game like that you have to fucking justify it. It's not justified.

people can watch Verso begging for sweet release and still think "yeah what a great choice I've made"

Absolute sociopaths.
Or women.

In Maelle's ending, she's the same as the kid chatting up Daenerys Targaryen on character.ai and ended up killing himself over that chat session.

Verso was a backstabbing cunt who deserves to be tortured for eternity. Who gives a shit about him.

It's not justified.

Yes it is.
Verso wanted it to end and Alicia made a circus monkey out of him.
She could have just not repainted him.

girl named Alicia

goes into a land full of wonders

Oh, I see...

So which one are you?

qrd?

alicia playing god with glorified meat puppets until she dies is the good ending

Sure it is.

Yes it is.

No it isn't.

can't even reason why

lol I win

glorified meat puppets

I see this shit posted a lot. There is no reason to believe that any of the people she brought back aren't just perfectly fine and living their normal lives now. You're just making shit up because of the cinematography of the ending. 'They must not be real now for some reason because the developer is saying this is the bad ending'. Stupidity.

Everyone in Lumiere was real before, despite being paintings, so they are real now, the same paintings. Only Maelle, who is dying in real life, and Verso, who is a whiny snake-cunt who can never be happy, is actually suffering at all from this ending. Lumiere's fine.

n-no d-don't listen to what is being shown, j-just make up your own fiction to cope

any of the people she brought back aren't just perfectly fine and living their normal lives now

Hey, the game itself says that Alicia can bring people back through her memories to give shape to their "essence".
So, not the same people and they basically exist to fuel her delusions until she overdoses and dies.
Or until she starts dying, Renoir and Clea come back and they just murder everyone again.

That's what I'm telling you, yes. Except you have no self-awareness so you're resorting to imitating meme posts instead of understanding.

N-NO IT'S N-NOT ACTUALLY THE BAD ENDING THE DEVS JUT MANIPULATE YOU

he deserved it, i felt more bad for lune who just seethed in a corner instead of going "me me me"

Lune

Who lmao?

Yes. Exactly. Again, no intelligence at all detected. Since you need it spelled out, yes, I am saying the developer's idea is wrong. They think they justified this as a bad ending but they did not. I am saying they did it wrong. Is that clear enough? Try not to reply using greentext like a retard. I'm sure you can't help yourself, but try.

There's nothing wrong with escapism, besides by the time Renoir gets to destroying the canvas all named characters would've lived out their lives. That's the point of Alicia's ending.

The developers are the painters of their game, so whatever they decide goes.
Now go back to your canvas and keep coping.

There's nothing wrong with escapism,

In moderation, which is all they are asking Alicia to do.
The problem here is that she's a junkie like her mom.

Both endings are dogshit
Everything after Act I is dogshit to be fair

So, not the same people and they basically exist to fuel her delusions until she overdoses and dies.

Except it is explicitly told that they are the same people. When Lune and Sciel get brought back they have their memories and everything intact (even know things Alicia shouldn't know), you idiots keep parroting this but it seems like you didn't even pay attention to the game you played.

Both endings are great
Everything after Act I is gold to be fair

That's the point of Alicia's ending.

the point is that she's an addict that's too far gone even when her brother and Renoir tried staging an intervention to save her.

She found their chroma that was right there because it was just freshly gommaged.
She herself agrees the old chroma Renoir has is hard to use and wouldn't be able to do it properly.

There's nothing wrong with escapism

see, you felt called out when it wasnt even my point. alicia will go mad just like her mother, thats close to a certainty, so the painting has a set shelf life. theres still people caring about her on the outside who would be willing to try to get her back to reality. hell, renoir can just paint himself back in. all that leads to is new gomages, leading to even more suffering and merely prolonging the inevitable.

How did this ending filter so many smoothbrains?

mfs pretending that ficcional characters from the canvas are real people just because they looks like real people

Lmao. Not even the game cares about them anon. They entire almost non-existent character arcs is completely ignored in both endings.
SO3 did a similar thing way better executed than E33 20 years ago and was massacred

There is only one soul and she enslaves it for her own selfish needs.

i've sided with escapism in every escapism is le bad game but this time escapism is painted heh as such a miserable thing that i chose verso's ending

She can't control her time in the canvas because she can't let go of Verso's death and her guilt.
She CAN have escapism, but the point is that she doesn't want to move on. Nobody tells her to stop painting forever.
Aline and that cunt Clea are partly to blame for that though.

way better executed

So3 did it like shit because the only person who cared was the comically evil villain and no one was even bothered. Also fucked over the whole setting.

They entire almost non-existent character arcs is completely ignored in both endings.

Now that's just rude because both Sciel and Lune have some pretty solid character arcs fitting with the themes of the game.

nuff said

Star Ocean 3 was a literal mmorpg computer game and not a magical canvas. People saying its like the sims/matrix/holodeck should be playing SO3 and not E33 as they wouldnt be wrong there.

new popular, story-heavy game comes out

subhumans constantly post spoilers

I know this will invite 50 spoiler filled responses but I'm not going to read any of it, I just wanted you to know that you're demonstrating incredibly low iq behavior

pretty solid character arcs fitting with the themes of the game.

Theme is grief
Characters have had a grief experience in the past equal... almost all humans on the face of the earth
Nothing more is elaborated on them.

going into a mindfield then complaining about getting blown up

Hope you've learned your lesson for next time.
I've avoided the board until I beat the game today, for example.

playing video games

smugmemepicture.jpg

Nothing more is elaborated on them.

You should actually do their events then, because you have proper looks into

what happened to sciel after her husband's death

lune's shitty parents

Strong references to Alice in Wonderland

Yep it's a JRPG alright

I've finished it and enjoyed it, which I can't say about the last RPGs I've played before that which are Metaphor and FFXVI.

Those are JRPGs.

The fact that you need to entirely shut yourself away from any form of video game discussion until you've played it only proves my point about the retarded subhumans. It's not just here though, it's the entire internet, and media in general
The civilized man has impulse control and can refrain from publicly screaming about the plot points of the cool game he just played

The civilized man has impulse control and can refrain from publicly screaming about the plot points of the cool game he just played

Going into a place where people are discussing video games and getting pissed they're discussing video games

Woman or jew, call it.

And a smart man would know how to avoid spoiler by now.

the civilized man doesnt care about spoilers since a great story holds up well after youve seen all the twists

No that's dumb.
The story can still be good but the impact is ruined.

>Going into a place where people are discussing video games and getting pissed they're discussing video games

A place that has spoiler tags specifically for the purpose, and where you can keep the spoilers for inside the thread instead of in the title. But I understand you're too stupid to use either of these methods, which is in fact my whole point.

And a smart man would know how to avoid spoiler by now.

I how to avoid all sorts of things, it doesn't make you less of a subhuman for doing them.
I was on the fence about this game anyway so I'm not particularly bothered in this case, I'm just calling out retard behavior for what it is.

civilized man

internet

Anon Babble

Anon Babble

Little bro keeps getting spoiled here on multiple games, he still complains instead of learning.
That's really impressive.
Do you get scammed often? You probably do.

The civilized man understands the value of exploration, discovery and anticipation, all of which are significantly hindered by being told the result.

when does a plot twist ever save a lackluster story framework?

dies

Canvas instantly gets destroyed

AIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE RENOIR-SAMA, CLEA-SAMA TASUKETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if we die the world can keep being shit

The big elephant in the room is no one would want to live in that dogshit world, that’s why the game sucks dick

I'm pretty good at avoiding spoilers for the most part, some are unvoidable though when you have a large backlog of games. I don't expect people not to spoil haha fuck you for example, but blurting out major plot points for a game that just came out and which is appreciated for its story is, I repeat, subhuman.

significantly

nope, not from a single plot point revealed by a thread title. the exploration stays, the anticipation shifts towards the execution.

You have to let gustave go anon

create entire civilisation of sentient beings

use them as a shield to live out your egotistical escapist fantasy

doom them for inevitable demise that comes sooner rather than later anyway because you are such a drug addict you can't just leave them be and visit from time to time, you have to play with your dolls until you wither and die

Alicia niggers are something else.

Also, Outer Wilds fans are pretentious, self-satisfied fucks who think they're smarter than everyone else, but maybe they have a point? You go into one of those threads and spoilertext is practically all you see

they're so happy, verso can play the piano for them, forever and ever

nah they are pseudointellectual redditfugees and so are you

There is no reason to believe that any of the people she brought back aren't just perfectly fine and living their normal lives now

You are literally being shown Verso being force to play the piano against his will. Maelle is perfectly content with forcing her will onto others to live out her perfect life. If she does that to Verso she can do it to anyone in Lumiere.

best girl

best fight

best paintress in the family (only she can paint over other's creations)

most competent person in the game

right about everything

Kneel.

single plot point

I thought we were speaking generally about the impact of spoilers, but consider that there are consistently multiple threads in the catalog.
Admittedly I'm more sensitive about even minor spoilers than others though.
Also I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised you all just disagreed with me instead of spitefully trying to spoil it even harder, thanks. Maybe I misjudged.

targeted at Redd!t audience

OP claps like a trained seal for it

good goy

Lune and Sciel

She grabbed their chroma in the place they were gommaged. With Gustave and Sophie it would be stretching it. And with the rest of Lumiere no way she is able to repaint them exactly as they were, she knows nothing about most of Lumiere's people.

They're definitely psuedointellectual redditfugees, but they're really good about spoilers

Well, okay, civilized men don't post spoilers. What now? You obviously know the internet and especially Anon Babble is not made up entirely of "civilized men". You know how the world works and still consciously decided to shoot yourself in the leg. So what are you assmad about?

The problem here is that she's a junkie like her mom.

The PROBLEM is that Renoir is going to nuke the fucking canvas the moment she steps out. At that point, it becomes a simple cost benefit analysis.

Star Ocean 3 was a literal mmorpg computer game

wrong, the Eternal Sphere couldn't be controlled by 4D beings at some point so they could only watch

souls

the only "real" person in the painting is Maelle after kicking out her parents. You can't take that smidgen of Verso's soul out of the canvas, and he's literally begging you to kill him.

Staying in the painting is objectively the bad ending

who are the Writers? Do they have similar powers to the Painters? is this some poorly added sequel bait?

this, FUCK Verso. He let Gustave get killed, I'll never forgive him

Verso wanted it to end and Alicia made a circus monkey out of him.

That's what he gets for killing the better brother

maellefags are genuinely mentally ill

dude, just play the game first then come back. That's what I did, literally just finished the game 20 minutes ago. Didn't visit Anon Babble the entire time because obviously people are gonna be discussing the game here, and some of them might have already finished it

competent bossy women get me rock hard

So versotards, what will it be?

Entities in the painting are real self-aware entities

This means you've just committed an act of genocide.

Entities in the painting are basically simulations like video game characters

This means there is literally zero stakes in the entire story other than one hoe's good mood, and the story itself is a "none of it was real" literary shitpost.

The ending being an act of evil within the story, or it being a meta-bad spit in a player's face? Pick your poison versotards.

With Gustave and Sophie it would be stretching it

They mention a couple of times how they can still feel Gustave's chroma since he wasn't killed by a Nevron

versofags convincing everybody its mentally unhealthy to escape in a real pocket universe while they are malding over the story on Anon Babble

Pottery

Why yes, I have an ability to healthy immerse into a work of fiction and then return back into the real world and deal with real problems while still being influenced by good piece of art. Sorry Maelle could never

Let an entire world of sentient conscious beings perish when you have the opportunity to stop that from happening

Ah yes, very healthy indeed

muh zero stakes

Get new arguments.

they are real in their own way, and Verso shouldn't care?
Verso's entire character is self sacrifice for his family. He gave up his life to save Alicia already.
The fact that he needs to destroy a world to save her again is on Alicia, not him.
Life kept forcing cruel choices on the young king

wipes out at least three sentient civilizations for the sake of family

Renoire was right and based. Maybe if Aline didn't have a woman moment then gestrals and grandis could still live in Canvas

Well, okay, civilized men don't post spoilers. What now? You obviously know the internet and especially Anon Babble is not made up entirely of "civilized men". You know how the world works

If someone steals from my car, it's my fault for leaving it unlocked, but the person who took it is still a subhuman faggot.

and still consciously decided to shoot yourself in the leg.

I don't think "daring to go on a video game discussion website while a game exists that you haven't played yet" is consciously shooting yourself in the foot. Entering the thread, sure, that's on me. But I have this weird belief that people should be able to go about their regular routine without having retards with no self control littering spoilers in their path, and that having to completely seclude yourself to have a chance of enjoying a new piece of media is actually pretty absurd.

So what are you assmad about?

I thought that was obvious? But I wasn't all that invested in this game in the first place, I'm just calling it subhuman behavior, which it is

cant save her own vidya from having one of the worst UIs in recent memory

It will always be a discussion. In the game, real Verso, his soul, states that the painted versions have souls, feelings, and are alive like anyone else. Clea, who is a prodigy paintress, believes otherwise however.
So it very much seems like painters in that universe can't agree on it themselves. It also explains how Clea can be such a cunt to all the painted people without remorse and keeps fucking with them.

Um... Versosisters???

be a gooner, woman, tranny, or abject retard

pick Maelle because of the above

despite her literally telling Renoir "just a little more time" since it's not actually about the people, it's about her playing house like her mom

she either dies or gets yoinked out, with Renoir then completing the destruction to stop his wife

everyone dies anyways

Verso had to wait an extra year to do but still got his wish since Renoir did promise him oblivion

wife is still fucked up,Bacon Face is now dead or suicidal, family is fractured

gooner sits back and goes 'AYUP DATS A GOOD ENDING FER ME I SAVED MY WIFE' (xhe didn't)

this is even before the devs slap you across the face with the many 'you fucked up' moments

lol Anon Babble is a 34 IQ board

this is even before the devs slap you across the face with the many 'you fucked up' moments

Both endings are fucked up in their own way but like you said, Anon Babble is a 34 IQ board so don't expect the average anon to get it

Maelle gets everyone killed anyways and since you're low IQ you don't understand that every painter in the story treats the people inside the Canvases (all of them) as disposable objects, even little Verso Soul that brainlets quote. He still made Gestrals live to fight, he still created things for his 'buddies' to fight on their adventures, and they're still (according to you) living objects birthed solely to be toys for a child. Your morality doesn't mean anything at all to anyone in the story.
GG
2 ez

left: bitch gone insane

right: bitch saved

shrimple

Hmm.. the game is called Clar Obscur; a painting technique in which light and dark are constrated.
One ending is bright, cheerful, colorful, and has the game's main theme playing....
The other is eerie, draped in shadows, has a cut shot and a discordant piano sting before lingering on a final horrifying shot much like you see in horror films, and has no game main theme and is mostly silence in the last 30 seconds....
What does it all mean, Basil? We need outside help on this one!

it means that Anon Babble has some of the most stupid and (I hate this term but it fits) media illiterate people on the internet. Tik Tok and TWITTER got this game better than the morons I see in these threads.

the whole point is to blur the lines between "creations" and "real people". Sure everyone in the canvas is technically not real, but it doesn't make their stories or emotions, thoughts and dreams any less real

OH NO MAELLETARDS WE'RE LOSING, OUR RESPONSE?!

first I thought versosisters were egoists

then I thought they were just autistic

in reality they are just trolling

I have no rebuttal to anything being said

but I am angry

but I am a gay retard and again, have no rebuttal

so I will just say the people stating objective facts are "trolling"

lol this tranny retard trying to gaslight me like Alicia gaslit Renoir and Verso

I call myself a Maelle enjoyer

but I picked the ending in which I kill her

I Am Very Smart

desu xe's right. it's impossible to avoid spoiler if you browse Anon Babble, even for older games. even without and explicit shithead trying to ruin it, there so many memeable spoiler that get reposted constantly

like i never played any persona and i know all the adachi memes.

also it's fucked up that when you search a character of literally anything in google/youtube and the first suggestion popping up is "character x death". that shit cucked me multiple times

if I call them autistic maybe they won't notice I can't read faces and think this ending is Le Good

saves

that painting only exists for as long as her meat container in the other world keeps functioning, at best you could consider her actions a stay of execution for that reality.

She only dies irl, not the painting

For me, its the constant sci-fi comparisons that dont even make sense. They are genuinely on the spectrum though.

youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I

She only dies irl, not the painting

Hey everyone, check it out! The 34 IQ retards I was mentioning
LOL

retards think you picked the ending because of Maelle and not because of an entire universe filled with sentient beings

Cypher was and will always be right.

uhh
how does this work

I also love these retards who then move goalposts and claim they really care about the faceless NPCs they never met (notice how they never mention the only three that matter by name, only the nebulous "muh universe")
Also wrong, because there's only people in Lumiere, and a few hundred tops.
Retards LOL

painted people don't matter!

Ok then why do we care about painted Verso's suffering?

painted people matter!

Ok, then why are we destroying thousands of painted people so one depressed painted person can kill himself?

Either way you slice it, Versofags are retarded

Reminder painted Verso doesn't give a shit about the real Verso, Verso's soul, anyone irl, or anyone in the painting. He is depressed and wants to die no matter the cost, and will lie, manipulate, deceive, and literally destroy everything just to kill himself as a byproduct. He also let Gustave die.

He deserves eternal torture and damnation. Let him suffer.

this games story is just Donnie Darko for zoomers.

He deserves eternal torture and damnation. Let him suffer.

he dies in her ending anyways. As does everyone else. Cope, seethe, dilate, but you're doing all three already anyways.

Um verso bros... our response???

I just think Verso is a great character Flaws and all. Both Renoirs though now those are my HEROS

He's literally playing the piano at the end in her ending you stupid nigger

so? she can just make a new canvas

no matter how many times you samefag it won't change you have no response to the actual things posted in this thread and keep repeating yourself about things that don't matter.
Q.E.D. - you should've stopped huffing paint IRL.

34 IQ LOL
Zero ability to think ahead to what happens next in that ending despite 3 characters spelling it out for you.

child dies

just make a new one lmao

For me, it's Sciel

piano bros lost

my fake paint people, all 200 of them

has the same energy as

muh Palestinians, no I will actually do anything to help them

ngl. I feel like the Venn Diagram of the two has severe overlap.

Dog dies

Just adopt a new one bro!

you will seethe about your bad ending until the day you die while Versochads enjoy the True End.

He is there to suffer forever until rhe canvas is destroyed

Verso had the best chemistry with her, even after he basically told him to fuck off because she may get her husband back.
Sciel is a good representation of the main theme of the game and how its characters should behave.

I fucking love shitposting with you retards. Thank you based France for reigniting my passion for vidya and shitposting

he's there to suffer forever for like a year more until Alicia finishes having her face melt away and Renoir comes back

that's like.. forever bro

34 IQ on display for the 6th time this thread. Amazing!

play
the fucking
piano

I like the ones who are seething so hard they are like

n..no.. the devs are TRICKING YOU

what the devs say doesn't matter only brainlets believe framing devices!

*insert wild made up headcanon here*

While the reasonable person who picked the bad goes

Well, I seem to have made an error! Well played developers, let me see the other ending! What a memorable rugpull moment!

the Anon Babble autist has a life threatening conniption

melt
away
and die
*discordant piano chord*

No you dumbfuck, first of all it's not "conscience", it's consciousness. Which you know nothing about, and i can say that your copy has the same consciousness, or can you prove otherwise?
And secondly i am already different than i was even an hour again, for example i was unfortunate to have gotten to know you somewhat, ones experiences, opinions, feelings and etc are in all in constant state of flux. If you changed your opinion that doesn't mean you died.
A human is his DNA, you can copy me and separate me to different dimensions in which i experience different things.
All me, and in all, i'm still king.

Plebs wouldn't get it.

why do we care about painted Verso's suffering

When you'll get that no one cares about the painted ''Verso'' (since the real one died long before the events of the game) but instead about Alicia delusionaly escaping inside the painting avoiding reality maybe we will have a proper conversation

You have to live in the "real" world even if your life there is shit because... it's REAL™!

you killed the people in the image and millions of people living in lumiere

Verso doesn't give a shit about anyone irl

Wrong, but I guess it's easy to miss when you're autistic and can't read facial expressions.

He is depressed and wants to die no matter the cost, and will lie, manipulate, deceive, and literally destroy everything just to kill himself as a byproduct. He also let Gustave die.

Why didn't he dupe Maelle into killing him Act 2, which would have been fucking easy considering your next point.

Sciel is ugly but her character's attitude and outlook on death really grew on me.

Go to sleep, Alicia

headcanon

cool but I don't need to lie about the game like you. There's a few hundred living in Lumiere, not millions.

lmao

Lol, lmao even. Maelle fags are too retarded to even realize the people aren’t even real.

Esquie made to act very specific way

Monoco made to act very specific way

Fake verso made to act very specific way

Painted Renoir made to act very specific way

Painted Clea

I could keep going because the list is huge, these are all paintings MADE to act a specific way. They don’t have true free will because they aren’t REAL just paintings made to play their roles.

Yes.

but the people in the magical painting arent real because they cant leave its like a VR simulation because its like the matrix okay!!!

Quick, define "real" for me.

Five Nights at Freddy's spam threads all over again.

Fake Verso (and the other three I think as well) are special cases because they have the memories f the real ones, which is horrifying. It's understandable while Clea calls them perverse and wants them erased. She was horrified to see her memories used to make her marry some retarded fake person in side the canvas which is why she did what she did.

god announces he is real

versosisters now realize they are fake and kill themself

average iq of this board goes up by 40 points

Everyone is retarded except for me, my interpretation and the ending I chose is the correct one.

sorry, video games are winning. Maybe X would be more your speed?

they can't understand because they are not even midwits. They're lowwits.

They are simulacra created by Alina's thoughts but hey, they're real amirite

In case anyone forgot:
Definition of a Human (Homo sapiens)
A human is a carbon-based, eukaryotic, multicellular organism belonging to the species Homo sapiens, within the kingdom Animalia, class Mammalia, and order Primates.

Chemical Composition:
Carbon-based life form: Like all known life on Earth, humans are primarily made of carbon atoms, which form the backbone of complex organic molecules.

Major elements (by mass):

Oxygen (~65%) – mostly in water and organic molecules

Carbon (~18%) – forms the framework of organic molecules

Hydrogen (~10%) – part of water and all organic molecules

Nitrogen (~3%) – critical for amino acids and nucleic acids

Calcium, phosphorus, potassium, sulfur, sodium, chlorine, magnesium, and trace elements support various biochemical functions

Cellular Structure:
Eukaryotic cells: With membrane-bound organelles, including:

Nucleus: Contains DNA organized into 23 pairs of chromosomes (diploid set = 46 chromosomes)

Mitochondria: Sites of cellular respiration and ATP production

Other organelles: Endoplasmic reticulum, Golgi apparatus, lysosomes, etc.

Genetic Material:
DNA made of four nucleotide bases (A, T, C, G) encodes the human genome (~3.2 billion base pairs)

Humans share ~98.8% of their DNA with chimpanzees

Genome codes for ~20,000–25,000 protein-coding genes

Physiological Systems:
Eleven major systems: nervous, circulatory, respiratory, digestive, musculoskeletal, endocrine, immune, integumentary (skin), excretory, reproductive, and lymphatic

Maintains homeostasis through feedback mechanisms

Reproduction & Development:
Sexual reproduction with internal fertilization

Offspring develop from a fertilized egg (zygote) through embryonic stages

Humans are viviparous: offspring develop inside the mother and are born live

Clea's still focusing on killing the wriggers

Now make a convincing argument as to why and how people in the so-called real world are not created and do possess free will.

so wait...you mean the people created explicitly as background NPCs for someone's dolls, programmed to act certain ways are... not humans?

Because there is no proof of it like in the game.
Wow, that was easy!

Sounds like Gustave and the rest of Lumiere

I wish clea would suck me off

souls

Inanimate objects dont have souls.

This is what our observations (which are fallible) has told us. Do you trust the chemicals in your brains to be chemicals? Do you choose to fight, or perish like a dog?

Because there is no proof of it like in the game.

thats because youre just a background npc and no in the mc party lmao

No, they are literally made of Chroma, but again, we know you retards didn't understand anything happening on the screen at any point.

Hmm.. the game is called Clar Obscur; a painting technique in which light and dark are constrated.

Precisely, and this is clearly reflected within the characters of Maelle and Alicia, light and darkness, fiction and reality. This fucking anon gets it

Maellefags are fucking retarded holy shit, no one paid attention to the story

none of it was real" literary shitpost.

Except the part outside the canvas where alicia and aline are killing themselves. So painted verso saves them both too.

shot verso literally says they have souls

you didnt play the game versosister

Can we even call them Maellefags? They killed her or at least doomed her life.
I, on the other hand, sided with the CHAD Verso and saved my cute crispy wife and regained her smile and life.
I would say *I* am the real Maellefag and they..well, how about we just call them 'Retardfags'?

They are not real is like saying you save the sims of an old file in an unstable teen computer. She is delusional and all the grownups saw it.

explain this

*puts my balls on your chin*

lmao FAGGOT

true Maellechad dabbing on the pretenders

Look up the title of the letter Alicia wrote for Verso.

The Musicians game is gonna go hard

That only means the painted world exists within the real world. Is a box that is placed inside a bigger box less valuable than the box that holds it?

one ending is called 'A Life to Paint'

the other is called 'A Life to Love'

lol

He says he'd like to believe they do

ehm sweaty your screenshot proves it otherwise

I'D LIKE TO THINK

tranny lying retard in charge of understand human language

lol

no you don't understand "I'd like to think" means "This is 100% true despite me literally mentioning a dissenting opinion in the same screenshot!"

I'D LIKE TO THINK

ehm sweaty?

Can you not shoot my example at me trying to find some holes in it, failing and then trying to make me myself try to find something.
Yes, the real world doesn't exist in a canvas in some random mansion(as far we know), therefore is on higher level of value than the canvas.
Their family dog may accidentally take a shit into the canvas and cause apocalypse inside.

why did you trannies leave out all the other lines when you were trying to cherrypick?
Not that it matters since you're quoting someone who made two races of creatures who love to fight for his own amusement

“That’s what I think, at least, but I know she thinks differently”

He thinks, he doesn’t know or else he would say he did, what she thinks wouldn’t matter at that point.

Prove to the class RIGHT NOW that we are living in a "real" world and not a simulation or other creation.

it's funny because you're illiterate and actually think it is 'sweaty'

You're a depressed 16 year old Alicia. Grow up and stop coping with delusions that shit on your brother's memory.

the problem is her mom nearly killed herself by staying too long on the painting and now Maelle got addicted to it too. "Renoir will burn the painting" is Maelle's excuse to stay. In her ending she doesn't let Verso die and mind controls everyone

No. There's your proof. LOL

As far as we know

And there's the fly in the soup. Guess what the painted people believe?

This threads are just people explaining to speedreaders and autist what the game was about. If you put attention whole family was fucked up and they justify their actions according to their experiences. Maele was a delusional selfish bitch, verso just want to end his suffering in a place everyone is fake, clea was a bitter bitch, aline delusional and renoir is the only one that tried to save his family. The game said thousands of times and still idiots open threads saying otherwise.

don't forget morons. There's speedreaders and autists for sure, but some of them were slow and did read everything, but are simply mentally slow.

There's land there too.
I remember how Lune said she had to do some magical bullshit just to figure out where the first expedition landed. You're telling that they've been sending people over there for over 60 years and they don't even know how the coasts look like? All the expeditions are just sailing off and landing in random places without telling anybody in Lumiere where they're going to?

*Pisses on the floor after drinking a gallon of water in less than an hour and waits for Clea to walk through the hallway and slip on it*

You're not painted people, you're a player, and you know they're painted, nothing of sort been proven about outside of the canvas, in-universe obviously.
Yes, some things you know, some things you don't. You move based on things you know.
Welcome to common sense, hope you like your stay here.

Another anon who fucking gets it

Everyone acting all high and mighty about choosing Verso, but if any of you mongoloids were given the chance to retreat from your current life to any fictional world of your choosing, you'd do it in a heartbeat and you'd fucking stay there.

I dont care about a bunch of mad gods disregarding their creations, they can all die.

clea was a bitter bitch

Not really, just harsh, even when Maelle is in the canvas she's basically saying

well, at least she's safe there

She's also the only one getting work done against the writers.

Stop projecting.

What does that have to do with anything? That wasn't the choice the player was given.

We're all hypocrites -Verso

I still would.
why don't they get her a glass eye?

scars are sad irreversible thing in those times but at least she has hair, and hadn't died from infection in a preantibiotics world
it's 1900s paris, just get morphine an cocaine from the local shop to manage her pain, easy to do. Hell, you can still attempt to treat her trachea stenosis with custom bougies and gentle dilatation, laryngology was a thing even back then, and with the Dessandres being rich and all it would be easy to recruit some competent doctors.
Why is she so adamant on her life sucking outside the canvas?
Paint some canvases with multiple scenarios, like in and out a year long adventure type ones. Spend a few hours irl in those, set reminders to not extend your stay in them if it's that physically punishing, get out back to irl, eat, piss, get some sleep.
Literally just like us normal people playing video games 4 hours a day. Moderation aint that hard to learn.

I want to fix her.

I hope your god rapes you

This threads are just people explaining to speedreaders and autist what the game was about.

Imagine playing a game for a whooping 30+ without even understanding what the fuck is going on LMAOOOO

there are """"people"""" who prefer Maelle ending

I'd be really sad and then ask another god to destroy this universe

The fact that you just accept reality at face value instead of coming to the realization that you are doing the exact same value judgement about your (perceived) reality as the supposed "fake" people of the painting are doing for theirs, and that's because you literally do not know the true nature of your reality.

You do not have all the knowledge required to make the claims you make, yet you make them anyway. The correct answer to the question whether or not the "real" reality is more valuable than the painted one is "I do not know", and therefore choosing either ending is completely justified, it just comes down to personal beliefs.

No, i would always choose reality. Because i am an high T upstanding individual.

Paint some canvases with multiple scenarios, like in and out a year long adventure type ones. Spend a few hours irl in those, set reminders to not extend your stay in them if it's that physically punishing, get out back to irl, eat, piss, get some sleep.

She likely does in that ending. Verso tells her, as she is getting kicked out:

You have this wondrous gift of painting. You'll never suffer a life you don't want ever again. You're okay. You're okay.

but the Retardfags can't actually read

Imagine playing a game for a whooping 30+ without even understanding what the fuck is going on LMAOOOO

Welcome to Anon Babble, buddy.

which one?

Hell, you can still attempt to treat her trachea stenosis

An actual rarity of incredible value - a woman who does not talk

Let's "fix" that so she could nag me to death

Are you okay?

It has to do with the moral grandstanding that the Versofriends are committing to. They criticize escapism, yet they would most likely choose to live another life in another world if they were truly given the chance to do so.

You're acting as if Alicia can't just paint new canvases and go inside them

I mean i always thought that was a joke but apparently the majority really has a room temperature IQ, jesus christ

Speak for yourself, orphan retard. I wouldn't kill my mother for morphine.

i wonder how you sing after getting fried to medium rare state.

Listen if you don't like common sense, or healthy sense, then feel free to not enjoy your stay here.
What you're saying is complete nonsense. The work of fiction gave information Y but didn't give information Z, therefore Y is confirmed and Z can only be headcanon. I base my argument on Y, then you appear and tell me that since i don't know Z i cannot make that judgement, the answer is I CAN, and I WILL. That's how the world works, and that's how a healthy attitude towards reality works, instead of doubting everything all at once all the time because the infinite amount of unknown unknowns.

in a place everyone is fake

They are real people though, Versofags arguments boil down to this but the fact remains that the people inside the canvas, are sentient, sapient, feeling individuals and their lives are worth preserving.

they were already dead. Even if you believe these characters had souls, remember that they were gommaged and then Maelle brought them back. At that point they're nothing more than imaginary friends Maelle built on the image of Lune and Sciel.

Monoco and Esquie would definitely side with Verso too

Escapism bad

Except after we've committed genocide on an entire world, escapism good again

it's an ESL

oh, it all makes sense. You'd sell your mother for 10 pesos so of course you're assuming everyone would.

yet they would most likely choose to live another life in another world if they were truly given the chance

Sorry, but i hate isekais for a reason

Only a literal LOSER would reject his life in exchange of another one

Sorry, but i hate isekais for a reason

Only a literal LOSER would reject his life in exchange of another one

You picked the absolutely correct image for that comment anon and i agree.

Thirdies don't understand that in the 1st world we don't usually sell our family members for money. Give him a break.

nice headcanon retard

they were already dead

No, they were in the process of dying since their Chroma was still around. People killed by Nevrons are perma dead, when painted Renoir kills somebody Aline can reuse their chroma and remake them.

Healthy attitude towards reality is taking everything at face value when we cannot even trust our brains to interpret a few squiggly lines placed on top of eachother

Okay buddy.

It's easy to say you would when this scenario can never happen to you.

You don't know what taking things at face value means, "buddy".

when this scenario can never happen to you.

People escape with drugs all the time. Most people dont and can handle grief.

her not talking is whatever, her vocal cords are literally fried and she won't ever regain her voice but if it hurts to even breathe then that is cause for concern. I just want a pure girl with a good soul to have a good quality of life. Being a burn victim fucking sucks.
I mean as long as the rest of her body isn't crispy, then it's worth saving her.

besides the many ways you've already shown to be retarded, you're leaving out that

we can 'go into games' again any time we want to

just have to leave this particular game for the moment for safety reasons

lol

No, it's easy to say period. Some people are not like you, and don't even see a dilemma in fake but preferable reality vs unsightly truth.

I could take morphine right now if I so wished. I don't. Most people don't.
Don't project your weakness on me and others.

The fuck is this headcanon shit? People killed by Nevron keep their Chroma to prevent it it going back to the paintress. Alicia even uses that Chroma to raise a zombie army, the only problem being the age of their Chroma.

Obviously escapismfags didn't pay attention to what Monoco said when Noco died: That he could be bought back to life sure, but he would not be the Noco they knew.

That thing happened in the Maelle ending, she's a despicable demiurge

no, they just claim that that was shown in the story for no reason and the people being resurrected are somehow different than the other Painted chroma based creatures.

You didn't pay attention either. Alicia brought back Lune and Sciel, complete with memories she could have never known for them to have.

i wonder how clea knew what she was saying? are the painters psychic?

It means exactly what you are doing. Accepting that what you perceive around you as this ephemeral "reality" which has some intrinsic value to you for some reason, even if you haven't got a clue what is going on beyond observations made by untrustworthy instruments.

I am not suggesting that you should go about your life doubting everything, I am simply saying that you cannot make concrete statements about the nature of reality if you do not have concrete evidence to back those statements up. You cannot claim that "real reality" is preferable to a painted reality when you don't know what the fuck "real reality" even is.

all people of Lumiere were already gommaged and beyond saving by the end of act 2. Lune, Sciel and everyone else died there and then.

What Maelle did wasn't to save them or bring them back. She just painted mere silhouettes of Lune, Sciel and everyone else from Lumiere. It's essentially the same thing Aline did when painting her family

I'm not talking about some temporary high. I'm talking about choosing a fictional world and being transported there, no strings attached.

muh headcanon

No retard. Gustave has vestiges of Simon's memories. Multiple Painted people are shown to have vestigial memories. This implies memories can be retained through Chroma. It even says Noko has his MEMORIES but is not the same person. Clearly they can just be Painted to retain memories of things that happened in the magical world being controlled by a God-like creature.
There is no definitive proof but there's more showing I am right than your "bro they remembered because they are the same":

Did any of you have trouble with the ending of SOMA?
Just curious.

But it is temporary because she is going to die, and she could, if she so chose, pick ANY NUMBER OF INFINITE WORLDS without her dying, but chooses not to.

Alicia brought back Lune and Sciel, complete with memories she could have never known for them to have.

She just bought back the Lune and Sciel she knew until that moment, just like her mother's portrayals in the painted world

Which is something Verso believed until his goal in life was to get himself killed at any cost.

damn Memoryfags DESTROYED

You drew a comparison to the Gestrals, that Noco would not be the Noco they knew. Which is true due to how Gestrals reincarnate. Lune and Sciel however are exactly the ones we knew.

"Addicted" my ass. She was reborn and spent 16 years inside as essentially a new person with no experiences, friends, and family. It's her home. Getting memories back for 5 minutes and not wanting to leave and go back to be a cripple doesn't make her "addicted." Aline was the fucking addict playing make believe with a copy paste family in the canvas. Maelle lived out a new life with no memory of the shit outside the canvas and has two sets of memories. The life she chooses to prioritize her her prerogative and hers alone.

mind controls everyone

Oh no. It's retarded. You should have said so sooner and spared me the reply.

At that point they're nothing more than imaginary friends Maelle built on the image of Lune and Sciel.

That doesn't seem to be the case since they had knowledge of their lives that Maelle shouldn't know. Is there anything that supports that line of thought?

They are a family of Painters, retard. There's a difference between painting in a healthy way and deciding to literally rot inside a canvas because you want to turn the memory of your brother into your personal dollhouse

see there it is

no the chroma being reformed is diiiiiiifffferent for them both

it's not

First hour into the game you see all the dead expeditioners being rounded up to be drained by Clea. Nevrons make chroma completely unusable.

I liked how mature it was, it just sometimes happens. You could love more than one human romantically but acknowledge feelings for one are stronger. They've been through a lot and both understand each other wll, but also that they have someone they'd bring back rather, but don't lash out on each other and have these moments together. But the fact they broke up doesn't mean they don't care about each other. It's like a holiday fling, a nice side adventure to remember.

This is not about the specific dilemma in the game, but rather about the principle of it.

Gustave has vestiges of Simon's memories.

Where is this shown?

This implies memories can be retained through Chroma.

Simon was still alive when Gustave was born, so how would Gustave have (some of) his Chroma?

It's implied that they are some type of mage so I wouldn't be surprised if they had more abilities outside of painting.

But it is. Gestrals lose parts of themselves on rebirth, Lune and Sciel were the same people, same mindsets, same memories, same hopes and dreams.

Maellefags would side with Anti-Spiral and live in a custom made pocket dimension

You deserve the drill

Lune and Sciel still retain memories and knowledge Alicia shouldn't have access to. Functionally they are the same people as before when Alicia brought them back.
Maelle was the only named character that died when everyone got gommaged.

No, if you are given evidence of something or confirmation of something, basing your argument on that is not taking things at face value, which means there is no examination of things, you see something and you accept it uncritically. It means you follow evidence instead of delusional copes and headcanons.

But i'm not surprised at all that you don't see the difference between the two.
At face value the sun is spinning around the earth, when you are given evidence and confirmation that the opposite is true, following the evidence is going against the face value.

I think he is taking the Sophie and Gustav being parallels to Simon and Clea theory and adding a little headcannon.

Living a fulfilling life away from hurt

Rotting inside a canvas

Choose one

Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

Might be time to rewatch Gurren.

You also deserve to die alone like a hobo and good little cuck.

it just works differently because I say it does

My father has terminal cancer, they've given him 1 month. Im not drugging myself nor trying to escape this reality. I am preparing for the shitstorm that is coming instead.

Bad comparison. Simon and friends are fighting for tomorrow, whereas the choices in E33 are destroy it all or keep it alive, perhaps in a bad way with Alicia forcing everyone to live to her desires. Gurren Lagann was all about hope and drive and it always got them to the happy ending with some bumps along the way. E33 gives us no such choice or chance, its misery both ways.

Almost two weeks later and people are still discussing the ending

Jesus Christ is not that complicated.

Dude Gustave notices that people killed by Nevrons keep their Chroma. They mention it multiple times. Alicia uses it to make her zombie army. Play the game.

Verso makes it look like he does it for Alicia

in Maelle ending he say "I don't want this life"

"*I* don't want this life"

Explain this, versokeks

THE SENTIENT BEINGS LIVING INSIDE ANOTHER UNIVERSE ARE NOT REAL.....BECAUSE THEY'RE CREATED

You act like a video game is a timed event that happens on a certain day, and that day only.

Gustave said fuck the mission instantly and was all about saving Maelle. I legit think Aline based him off her son and husband

Not everyone has time to no life a game in 3 days, most people are probably just now finishing the game.

Verso does it for Aline though. He doesn't want the life where he has to watch her daughter ruin her life by keeping the Canvas. It's not that hard.

The game says so. We literally see Noco revived, different and barren of memories. Lune and Sciel are themselves, down to memories Alicia couldn't know to even give them.

The former, which is done by facing reality and going through the natural grieving process so you can begin to heal instead of denying the truth. Verso died. It's high time the Dessendre women start accepting that fact.

Why are you faggots so hellbent on making everything about fucking Verso? He's a factor, but she's staying for more than him and "m-muh grief."

The evidence you speak of is based on human observation, which is the unreliable instrument I referred to.

Yes, the earth does seem to orbit around the sun, but that is what we perceive to be true. Our perceptions, even if shared by all, do not make for dependable information about whatever we exist in. You can and should trust your senses to a point, but I wouldn't make concrete claims based on them.

Sure, unlike you I played the game and understood it. He could've done nothing, let Renoir win, and that would be that. Instead, he helps Alicia and WANTS to fulfill her wishes up until the moment he sees her lie to Renoir and realizes she's full of shit and will never willingly walk away. He straight up says this so it's doubly hilarious you missed it.
The first thing he asks for is to stop his fragment from paintings. The SECOND is for him to unpainted. These are not mutually exclusive things. He wants them both

Hope this helps you drooling fucking retard

thank you for not killing us all because youre sad

Gustave wasn't painted by the Paintress directly. It seems tome after the Fracture they were all born, not painted.

You know how we're still getting threads about Skyrim of all things and its civil war? Yeah, see you in 2035

*Pisses on the floor and waits for Clea to walk through the hallway and slip on it*

They don't keep "their" chroma, it transforms and it becomes unusable by Aline. That's the whole point of painted Renoir slaughtering the expeditioners.
When Gustave was killed it was mentioned several times how they could still feel his chroma around because he wasn't killed by a Nevron.

They're all living in a book, how can you faggots not see the REAL twist.

Which is done by facing reality

Which one? And what is reality, can you clarify?

Alicia pretends she is doing it for the people of lumiere

in Verso's ending she says "please don't leave me again" while holding Verso's hand tightly. Making it clear she really just cannot get over her dead brother.

She was painted by the Paintress dude. Everyone in Lumiere is, it's her chroma. That's what Renoir's been trying to destroy, HE'S the one doing the grommage, while the writing on the tree is a warning from her to them on who she can save (everyone that remains).

because they can't argue what actually happens and have to argue all sorts of ancillary retarded shit

muh millions of people (only a few hundred live in the small piece of broken Lumiere)

muh memories

muh semantics

muh Verso

"Hey what about the fact you doomed Maelle and the people anyways in the obviously 'shown to be not good' ending?"

muh silence

Painted Verso and Clea have their own memories, doesn't make them the real deal.
Hell, Renoir does too except Aline made him suffer extra hard.
Painters are gods but they can't revive their creations for real.

What a pos you’re.

How old is Clea?

old enough for me

Yeah she was, she was painting the babies too, confirmed by Clea when Alicia gets reborn as one of the babies in lumiere, Clea says " you're about to be reborn as one of Aline's creations".

Old enough for this guy

They aren't organic living beings. She wanted to live off from a type of VR version of life. That's sad

He can want both, you know? He has real Verso's memories. He doesn't want his sacrifice to have been in vain as the painting he made and loved as a kid is now used by his sister to slowly kill herself. At the same time, he doesn't want to keep fucking living which is made clear to him if he loses the duel

Guys, I was playing a video game today and I turned the game off to clock in and do some OT work. I KILLED all the people inside my game....

Oh right, my bad, I'm stupid

Which one?

The only one, you absolute idiot

What is the significance of Goblu only attacking when they messed with the rose?
And more importantly, who made the mimes

imagine these niggas as kids watching Reboot and trying to wrap their minds around NPCs LOL

I'm sorry for your circumstance, but that's not comparable. If you could permanently hop into another reality where your father is not terminally ill, are you saying you wouldn't do it because this reality holds some sort of intrinsic value to you?

You're not stupid, a lot of people made that mistake, you heard it from someone probably.

They don't keep "their" chroma

Stop contradicting the actual game. It doesn't help your case.

If Verso was the oldest child then less than 26

The father in that reality is not my real father, so no

Clea is the oldest of the children

It is not about just Verso indeed, the reason why the Maelle ending cutscene gradually fades to black and white without sounds is because they wanted to tell that something about that whole situation it's odd and abnormal

more proof they're under her control. They're not even birthing children by free will; they're doing so as part of Aline painting more NPCs

What makes your father real and your father in the other reality not real?

literally can't revive people from their own chroma

are you saying you wouldn't do it because this reality holds some sort of intrinsic value to you?

Wtf kind of question is this? Yes it does.

it does because Gustave wasn't killed by a Nevron and didn't turn into a statue so he's correct, and they do say they can 'feel' him
tard

He's the one who conceived my in this reality, the other one did not.
Are you seriously asking this?

no she saved them for a few centuries (thanks to time dialiation inside the canvas, Alicia is going to die in a few years)

why are you arguing with a 9th grade philosophy 101 student?
Retard doesn't even know what or why he's arguing

based reboot fan. made this comparison to a friend after i finished the game.
also that other anons shitposting made me think of reboot as well since essentially everyone dies when the user turns off his computer

Seriously. I'd honestly like to see a show of hands of the amount of players who picked Maelle's ending because they wanted her to spend more time with that backstabbing fuck. I just wanted Gustave and Lumiere back. I wanted her to live a full life without pain or disfigurement and a voice. I was perfectly fine with Verso dying and disagree with her decision to keep him. But she's going to let him grow old and die, so she's going to need to cope eventually so the point is fucking moot unless we headcanon she'll keep him alive forever. Which is exactly what these retards are doing.

You see, the problem is I love those NPCs

If you could permanently hop into another reality where your father is not terminally ill, are you saying you wouldn't do it because this reality holds some sort of intrinsic value to you?

The father in the other reality is just a portrayal of my father created by my memories, the father in this reality is my real father.

sit on the floor, hapa. Thanks for the pussy btw. Shit was SO cash.

Why should I hate writers? They are BASED.

Lol, lmao even. Maelle fags are too retarded to even realize the people aren’t even real.

Play the prologue again and tell me the painted people aren't real with their own thoughts, emotions, and goals. Maelle understood implicitly because she lived a second lifetime as a painted person, that's why she was so desperate to bring everyone back.

But she wasn't. She was real. It doesn't matter how well the bots around you pass the Turing test, tardo.

couldn't finish off a retarded painter family

they're more impotent than renoir lmao

Can you prove that this reality is not another such created layer? Which layer is the REAL reality? Does one exist?

for a few centuries

Aline's losing her mind as seen after Renoir's boss fight and she's been inside barely a century if that. Alicia is 100% dying far sooner given she's the poorest Paintress in the family.

I could play it a hundred more times and still wouldn’t change my opinion. You were told in basically every single way except directly that they aren’t real. Go cry over your sims, fag.

Enjoy your bad ending. I'm writing it right now.

The only thing worse than the endings of this game is the retards on Anon Babble who have terrible opinions about them.

Bourgeon looks like my uncircumcised dick

this thread shows me why we have yellow paint in games everywhere now. Fitting

Yes. That she has opted to become a "living corpse" and die in the canvas. If they did not do the jump scare and remind the player of Maelle's mortality, the ending would be undisputedly leaps and spades superior to the mass genocide, new cycle of grief with the destruction of the canvas, and invalid life style she is thrust into with Verso's ending. So I approve of it not being "odd and abnormal" to level the playing the field.

Aline you need something to eat mon cherie

They can't even control their own powers. Have you seen what Alan Wake did to himself and people around him?

Does your dick also eat up 16 year olds?

Fresh french cheese brother
Yes

Faggot Wake

sidelined in his own game by a sassy Stronk Black QVEEN

vs

Clea, hot as fuck

becomes the best most important character despite being on screen for 5 minutes total

stars in a kino boss fight and causes the other best one

not even a fair fight

what does this face mean...

This. Writers are a danger to everyone around them. Pic related.

Yes, because it's old.

And people say they can still hear the voices of their loved ones after they depart. It's not literal. Your "Nevrons actualy change the Chroma of the people they killed" is not supported by the game.

it means Uchikoshi tricked you into buying another shitty game and Kodaka laughs at you while paying translators who actively make the game worse

the souls of an entire universe

what souls? They are not alive

Aline's losing her mind as seen after Renoir's boss fight and she's been inside barely a century if that.

Aline was inside well over a century,
-Aline goes in to grief
-She takes too long
-Renoir steps in to take her out of the Canvas
-The fracture happens (this is the 100 year mark)

new cycle of grief with the destruction of the canvas,

The fact you need to post this, showing she still can't cope, only proves it's right to make her stop living in the painting.

Verso was right. It's time to let go, anon.

I don’t think he is. Why let her stay? He could keep fighting for decades like he does with Aline but instead he sympathizes with her and leaves because he wants a life where they can visit the painting to remember Verso but not get lost in it. The game doesn’t consider that an option though.

Speaking of, I feel like Bourgeon had a hard on for Maelle. He kept voring her and almost her the 3 attempts or so I fought him. She spent almost all the fights in his stomach. I spoke to a friend a work and it was the same for him. Is this an actual thing?

the paintress went mad for living in the matrix

Alice won't bro because...well just because ok? and thats the best ending

Yes, it is RETARD
Get killed by Nevrons = be a statue, Aline does not get the Chroma back
Do not get killed by Nevrons = Aline reclaims the Chroma
that was the ENTIRE POINT OF THE NEVRONS RETARD
That is why Clea put them in there
holy RETARD lmao

TIME FOR SWIMSWIM

They literally do not play the game

just moderate your heroin usage bro

this board and the internet in general is proof positive of why it's a middle way ending is a crapshoot. game is basically fake verso liberating the tortured inner child of true verso from the delusions of his family.

The fact you need to post this, showing she still can't cope, only proves it's right to make her stop living in the painting.

Not really. You're just replacing grief with more grief, and it's fucking retarded. Verso himself said she can just paint another canvas if she's unhappy. Unironically. Destroying the canvas does not resolve shit for anyone not named Aline or Renoir.

be a Maelleendingtard

game loredumps at me

too many words so ignore it

argue on Anon Babble

every single one of them kek

Nevrons don't CHANGE the Chroma they TRAP it inside the bodies of their victims. The Chroma stays the fucking same.

oh shit I am wrong better try to weaselword my way out of it

They don't keep "their" chroma, it transforms and it becomes unusable by Aline.

Literal quote which I'm arguing against. Fuck off.

and then it can't be reused and ends up with inperfect recreations due to age
I would say that...CHANGES it, wouldn't you?
Dumb fucking nigger

We don't know how long Aline was inside the painting before Renoir entered, only that 67 years have gone by since. I very much doubt he waited more than one third of that time before entering.

but that's correct
you were wrong
you didn't understand the game
semantics won't save you
I win
You lose
Go take morphine and kill yourself like Maelle

Am I the only one who finds the way Lune says “An Advantage” to be ball tightening?

It's why I mentioned her too, sure seems that way.

The chroma stays the fucking same

They straight up say that the chroma is impure which is why they can only make the ghost-esque soldiers from them instead of remaking the original expeditioners.

Holy shit maelletards in this thread are getting BTFO'D badly lmao

Get your ADHD ass elsewhere

leave milk out

it curdles

can't drink it anymore

no bro it's the same as regular milk it didn't change it's the same okay leaving it out doesn't change anything

It's what she wants you faggot, it's her choice and she's not hurting anyone. Her real life is shit.

99% of Versotards make it out like Verso is some valiant selfless hero when it's literally the complete opposite

muh facial expressions

Lmao, look at his actions, retard. He is a psychopath, he has no problem lying, manipulating, taking advantage, destroying an entire city just for his selfish benefit. He couldn't dupe Maelle into killing him, that's why he grooms her and uses her to deal with the paintress to help him destroy the canvas.

For me, it's Sciel's "Readyyy..." when it's her turn during combat.

Probably a couple of years if she painted her family as they are

not a sciele "readyyy" chad

i pity you

they're all so fucking retarded it's unbelievable. All cope, headcanon, and illiteracy

After giving it a lot of thought I think Maelle’s ending is poorly written. If Sciel and Lune really care about Maelle they should be pressuring her to come out of the canvas, but in the ending they’re all happy with the result. did everyone who wasn’t Renoir really need to end up being totally selfish after it was all said and done? Thus you have this camp that says they’re all brainwashed, and they might be right except there’s no indication in the game that painters can control their paintings, after all Aline would definitely keep Verso at home in blissful ignorance but she doesn’t.

no strings attached

speed reader. Its clear that it has strings attached. That is the user dies eventually.

I used both and not Maelle because I don't need glitches or crutches to smash Expert

verso had the balls to liberate an entire family from their self-induced delusions, kek.

Renoir says like 4 times that his wife taught him the seductive Canvas has a price

Retards STILL miss it

this thread is why games have narrators, you literally have to tell not show these dumbfucks

For me, it's how Gustave seems a flesh-golem with his sovless smile

but he DID tell them, out loud with voice acting AND text
lol

the balls to genocide a city just so he could kill himself

No, he's the biggest cuck coward faggot in existence

Aline considered the fake Verso to be the replacement for her dead son so she didn't mind control his because it would be evil

when you still love your crackhead sister and have to watch her die

that smile looks so fucking forced, man
maellefags are deranged creatures

I used Maelle the entire game and never abused her until Simon, fuck that third phase. Also there were some people saying the Clea and Simon fight were similar in difficulty, they’re actually retarded, Clea took me like 2 fails to learn the parry timing and beat her.

He says it at the end too when he says its too soon for aline to return to the canvas. Its pretty clearly using drugs to cope with grief basically.

They would die though, they don't have a real world counterpart, they are purely painted

Lune is absolutely pissed in the Verso ending

You assume they remember she's god and Alicia didn't mass brainwash everyone to live out her fantasies.

He doesn't have a sister, he's not the real Verso. He's just a miserable, psychopathic painted NPC.

reminder the painted people are NOT real, only the painters are

you smile like that too if you knew your adopted sister was Literal God and could turn you into a talking diaper if she wanted

Yet he loves Aline and Alicia, curious.

the only psychopath here is you for letting Maelle kill herself and dooming the painting anyways

hahaha yeah I'd totally rather be dead

grrrr curse you for letting me live hahaha

Versofags continue to be retarded autists

you're young so you'll never understand how tired you can become of life, especially when it's because of addicts who don't have the balls to admit it. find peace, maellenigger

and she loves him so much anyways she forces him to live like this despite what he wants
retard

how is every game she is in GOTY?

she was cast before BG3 was out

midas touch of games. also, clive as verso.

Holy shit maelletards in this thread are getting BTFO'D badly lmao

I’ve seen them put up a good fight in some of the recent threads, but damn they’re really getting shit on this thread.

He begs Alicia to kill him multiple times THOUGH.

Maelletards back to ignoring that they killed her

I love Clea so much it's unreal

Why is it all heroin with you guys? It’s clearly an allegory for media

The paintress lasted 67 years in the painting and still didn't die. Maelle is younger and stronger than her, she'll be fine for at least 50+ years

Are you fucks actually this retarded? We all know Maelle is going to die if she remains in the canvas. She herself knows that she will die and accepts that. There are 'strings' but they are insignificant if you've cut ties with the outside world. She can live 100+ years in the canvas like Renoir and Aline, happily. She will die in the real world in likely several weeks to months - but why should she give a fuck? That short time is an eternity for her - something she would never live in her "real" life from the start.

This whole "S-she's gonna die" is a fucking Renoir problem. Not Maelle's or anyone who chose her ending.

reminder that the canvas HAS to be destroyed. while its not explicitly stated, the time dilation between the "real" world and the painted world is too severe for alicia to hop in and hop out. if she was gone for a few weeks in real world time all her friends would be dead by the time she got back. theres a reason verso didnt paint any people and all the other beings are basically immortal.

Versochad = Understood that both endings are sorrowful, but has the courage to let their fictional companions go for the sake of Alicia's sanity

Maellefag = Entraps Alicia into an endless escapism groundhog day nightmare because the spineless coward doesn't have the guts to let her face reality and wants an ''happy ending''

Know the difference

You speedread the argument. It isn't about the specific situation in the game, but the principle of it. If you are against escapism, full stop, you wouldn't accept even a perfect, no-faults reality that comes with no downsides, with the only reasoning being that it isn't "real".

Maelle is younger and stronger than her

See? Maelletards LITERALLY do not understand the words on the screen.
Hey retard- you are told, SEVERAL TIMES, that the opposite is true.

and stronger than her

KEK

I'm talking about Gustave

Maelle punishes Verso to (well deserved) eternal punishment and agony for letting Gustave die

The painted people are real but only inside the Canvas, its like an alternate universe they can't leave
The dillema of the ending is basically - should we keep the sun from exploding for another 100 years at the cost of our free will and a god's life or just let it explode right now?

She can live 100+ years in the canvas like Renoir and Aline, happily.

nope
play
the
game
dumbfuck

heroin, meth, media, pornography, food, weed, alcohol, sex, sensuality. it's all about escaping yourself and the pain in your heart. it doesn't matter what it's "about"

She took all her and Renoir's chroma you brainlets. She is a god basically now

Maelle is younger and stronger than her

oh okay, so they're just speedrunning back to 'headcanon'
got it

uhh

how does this work

There's a cavern passage in that exact path that has a waterfall on the other side. There's crashed expedition ships all around the base of the waterfall, so they must have eventually learned to reinforce their boats.

This shows what a good and sensible person Maelle is xDDD

it's not THEIR Chroma DUMBFUCK
it's the Chroma inherit in the painting which is why Aline can't come back in while Maelle is in charge.
Stupid fucking niggers, I swear to god lmao

Maelle is younger and stronger

She's a far less skilled Paintress. She's gonna die in like 45 years, three days irl tops

I did. Did you, you illiterate mongoloid? Or are we playing semantics and you want to say 67 years from the point of the fracture? Gommage yourself.

the chroma nevron thing is cleas similar technique like verso and the gestrals rebirth. chroma when destroyed can be redistributed but when it is you might lose some of the initial design. thats what maelle means when the trapped chroma is tainted or w/e. think of it like recovering data from a damaged harddrive

I wouldn't get in the pleasure cube: The Thread

90% of you are lying and the rest 10% are actual lunatics who think suffering is a necessary part of the human experience and not something that we should seek to utterly eliminate.

Yes age apparently changes Chroma, the Nevron killing you however does not. It traps the Chroma.

but that's correct

You contradict the game and it is never stated that Aline, the most skilled paintress in the story, cannot use old Chroma for some reason. The goal is to keep Chroma from returning to her.

I did

"and stronger than her"

claims she got two people's Chroma lmao

SURE YOU DID RETARD LOL

must be nice to be this young in 2025. oh what sights you'll see

Yes age apparently changes Chroma, the Nevron killing you however does not. It traps the Chroma.

he thinks this saves him
LOL
what a fucking retard

I'm 37.

Maelle is younger and stronger than her

a statement that is literally the opposite of what is said in the game

curious....

He couldn't dupe Maelle into killing him

but he could dupe her into killing other people

Yeah, sure.

congratulations your life decisions are on par with a 16 yr old neet

giving in to the hedonistic treadmill

humans will literally cease fo function without some form of despair either affecting them or creating the threat of striking some day

The difference between the pleasure cube and the canvas is that the canvas is real and not an ideal world, just a "better" one (ONLY after they kick Renoir's old ass out) than the shit one Alicia is natively from. Maelle was literally isekai'd and faggots need to treat her time here like a drug to justify siding with Cuckso.

That's why Verso's ending is the one actual Maellefags go for. The other one just kills their waifu.

kills his 'waifu'

claims it was for the best

'btw I'm morally correct'

lol

Who are you replying to? You are talking with more than one person, you goddamn lunatic.

Yes... and she absorbed it now you stupid nigger

prefers narcotizing fantasy to the real world at 37

sad

Reminds me of The Matrix when Smith is telling Morpheus how the first iteration of The Matrix was a paradise and humanity rejected it.

couldn't pay attention to 2 cutscenes in the game before his ADHD kicked in

has to make up what happened now

lol

Nice headcanon. Do you have a single fact to back that up? You don't, because there hasn't been a single individual that has lived a life free of suffering and therefore having (according to you) hit a biological blue screen.

You consume media all the time but you don’t do heroin (I hope) because there is a clear difference even if addiction operates on similar principles.

the buddha, christ, arhats, etc. don't say what i know you'll say. pain isn't suffering.

um guys see she got two people's worth of Chroma because I made that up
She's actually stronger! (ignore the game saying otherwise)

Maelle will live a full, happy life in the canvas. Of her own choice. I'm not subjecting her to being a mute burn victim with one eye who struggles to breathe just so you can beat your dick to the Dessendre getting some grief counseling lmao.

because there hasn't been a single individual that has lived a life free of suffering

Nta, but odds alone there’s probably been at least one.

the proof is all around you, people have stopped breeding because life has become too comfortable

whereas the people still living in shit conditions just live and work and have kids

DLC should be about Clea and Verso's adventures in the canvas.
Just a light hearted adventure to give them more screen time
Oh and it NEEDS a scene where Clea pulls Alicia by the hair

Maelle will live a full, happy life in the canvas

The fact that you retards have to lie and ignore what is spelled out in the game says it all

losing yourself in a real fantasy world would be even more intoxicating than heroin, so it's a moot point. again, it's about one thing: escaping your misery/loneliness/shame through something that will never heal you

Not all suffering is pain, but all pain is suffering. And there is one type of non-physical pain that affects every single individual on the planet, and that is grief over the loss of loved ones.

the problem is that the writers want to have it both ways -- they expect you to care about the painting people, but they also expect you to decide that the dessendres are more important. the problem is, the only justification for not caring about the painting people is them being fake, but the game doesn't want you to think of them as fake. it has lune staring miserably at verso as she's about to be erased. the entire game's premise is about the tragedy of the gommage. a lore blob tells you that they have souls. and they clearly have free will, because verso disobeys aline.

but if they're not fake, it's obviously a moral atrocity to erase them! yet the game takes a clear moral stance by presenting maelle's ending in black & white with horror movie music and a melting face, and the other ending in color with hopeful music, describing it with 'love' instead of 'paint'. the devs think this is the bad ending, but it's obviously not if you follow the logic of their world to its natural conclusion.

lie

Your delusions and headcanons are not truth, retard-kun.

She selfish in some ways, but she also sacrifices herself so that lumiere can live, and she’s based for that. And because it feels like the desendre family might be fake characters in a book, their lives and happiness is no more important that lumiere.

something that bothers me is when people use an npc line of dialogue and says

"THE GAME IS CALLING YOU RE TARDED!, SEE?" thats not how that works. at all

dlc should be playable simon, painted clea (before being painted over), and a third party member vs the third axon

Really makes you think.

How does it not heal you if you literally leave your grief behind in a world that you are no longer a part of?

other way around. not all pain is suffering, but all suffering is pain - physical or otherwise. pain doesn't have to be suffering, is my point.

You THINK you know what is at stake but you DON'T

Do you know WHY I cannot leave you behind?

Meanwhile retardfags:

um ackshully that was all lies and the much weaker painter won't have that happen because I saw it in a dream

Its all 100% fucking Renior's fault, don't even deny it.

Daaaaaaaaaaaad we got maman out now and I've hidden the canvas so please don't destroy it and preserve the last piece of soul verso left

All he had to do was agree and leave, Maelle can then just repaint everyone back to life and bale out, occasionally dropping back in to say hi and life would be golden. But no the nigger had to try to burn everything down.

Guarantee he doesn’t reply to this.

you have to ignore what is in the game lmao

because eventually you'll have to wake up. how doesn't alcohol heal if you it helps you drown your sorrows for a night? i'll leave that as an exercise to the reader

um bro she's not coughing blood and staggering okay? That's um...happy fluid. It means she's happy. Okay? FUCK YOU

you wouldn't accept even a perfect, no-faults reality that comes with no downsides

of course i wouldnt becauses its a lie. Even sweet lies are still lies. Do you lie to children because you dont want to hurt them? Plus the entire game makes it clear there are consquences to it so the idea there isnt any its a silly contrapoint to make.

Yeah. Really does. Maelle is letting Verso die on her own terms in the canvas and will soon let go, yet doesn't want to go back out being an invalid and leave everyone she loves behind. Good for her making her own choices like big sister suggested and made Verso and Renoir fuck off.

daaaad its just one little bit of heroin

Mfs who choose the Maelle ending are the same who said that Maruki did nothing wrong

Didn’t they say they had hid the Canvas before and that Aline wouldn’t stop until she found it again?

But in this case you literally do not have to wake up. You can just live your life in the better world till the end of your days.

of course it is. anytime a family falls apart, the patriarch assumes full responsibility. also

67 years

absolutely no successful results to show for it

lmao

Retardfags won't reply to this

I refuse to call them Maellefags because real Maellechads saved her life.

verso holding onto Sorrie the whole game without telling anyone

The metric shit tons of lies by omission or otherwise he does

I liked verso a lot but he is not someone worth considering when it comes to a satisfying ending.

ou can just live your life in the better world till the end of your days.

And hurt your family who have to watch your body rot away in the real world. Aka verso died for nothing saving alicia since she throws her life away.

she literally floats back in IMMEDIATELY after lol

Good you agree she's making a mistake.

you're either forced to wake up because of the fact you're becoming a ghoul, or death will snap you out of it. either way, you wake up

no you don't understand coughing up blood is good it means you're healing

Verso's amount of backstabbing is insane. If he had a shred of honesty about him I'd be more sympathetic.

That family is also in that other world you are no longer part of. You could consider the decision to stay in the painting to be a kind of self-administered, gradual euthanasia.

It’s bad because Verso’s soul is holding the canvas together and he doesn’t want his family fucking around in it making each other miserable. A ten year old boy working away at something that destroys his family until they’re all dead or mass genocide. The French are so dramatic.

I would lie to your face and kill you too to save my mother. Sorry you hate yours.

Maelle dies at the end of Act II retard, Act III is all Alicia fucking shit up.

How does death "snap you out of it"? When you die, you die. It would be the same in the real world, just with the preceding life having been significantly worse.

The entire point of beat renoir besides kicking him out of the canvas was to reclaim all the chroma in the world so they could bring everyone who was gone back authentically.

yes but its clear that clea and renoir are both trying to save you despite it. they need you and dont want alicia to die.

nta, but it's pure cope. Because we can't imagine ever being able to live a life without suffering, we cope with it by saying "but we need it anyway kinda sort of" blablabla.

G-g-good y-you -

Shut that shit up. The only mistake is letting retards like you, Renoir, and Verso impose your convictions on her. And her ending, she does not. Her life is her own. What happens to her shell of a body that Renoir has watch in the "real" world is a personal problem. Maelle will continue doing what she's been that past 16 years (couple of IRL days) as usual.

Even more reason to go for Verso you autist

Sorry retard just because you would watch your mom and daughter kill themselves with a VR helmet because

lol its her choice

doesn't mean normal people would, you deranged moron

When you die, you die

precisely. you're plunged into the void you've been running from your whole life.

pain is inescapable but suffering, for an exceptional few, is optional

my mother

Verso never considers that in the end. He only wants oblivion for himself.

Why was Verso's Axon Visages? Did Renoir think Verso was wearing masks for everyone?or was it because he wanted to be a musician?

man you should really play this game sometime instead of watching YouTube clips; it's really good

Yes her life is her own. Just accept that she can also make mistakes.

thank fuck you virgins will never have kids and are unfit to adopt.

One can only assume he was a chronic liar in life.

The fact you can’t see that she’s just as selfish as they’re and no more right is what makes you a lobotomite.

Here is the thing. I do not give a fuck about your perception in this regard. I am only concerned with Maelle's autonomy and her happiness. Your empathy with Renoir is your own problem.

Yes her life is her own

watches daughter shoot up until she dies

"Why are you arresting me officer? IT WAS HER LIFE HER CHOICE AIYEEEEE"

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD IT'S NOT JUST A PHAAAAAAAAAASE, I'M AN ADULT ALREAAAAAAAAADY JUST LET ME KILL MYSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELF

"Nah"

Kinda wild how all the woman in this game were wrong and literally all the male characters where right and based

here's the thing I am a Anon Babble edgelord and would kill my mother and daughter over video game characters

I know and that is why I am laughing at you as if your damaged retard way of thinking applies to normal human beings

You dumb motherfucker, I have called Maelle selfish more times than I can count. I just don't care about Renoir or the Dessendre. Boo hoo.

No one runs from death, they just want the life before it to have been worth living. When faced with the choice of living a life free of hurt with all the people you love (It literally does not matter if they are "real" or not) or living half a life missing those you have lost as a cripple, the choice is rather obvious.

ignoring sciel

criminal. she was the second smartest member of the cast

It is because he was a musician forced to be a painter to satisfy his mom. He basically tried to make those around him happy by lying to them and to himself about what he really wanted to do.

my daughter killed herself slowly with drugs while I watched, but it was for the best as she was happy

Clea was pretty on point for the majority of her actions, but other than her, yes.

tell me what exactly are Verso's last words in the Maelle ending?

everyone's running from death. death's the end of both the fantasy and the reality, and in your final moments you'll wish you dwelled more in the latter than the former.

t. addict

Here is the thing. I do not give a fuck about your perception in this regard. I am only concerned with Versos autonomy and the dessendres happiness. Your empathy with Maelle is your own problem.

all the woman in this game were wrong

Aren't you forgetting someone?

Ah yes. The genocidal basement dweller is giving me life lessons on normality. You love to see it.

you could tell if these niggas ever had kids (they won't) they would have those really fat kids, if they didn't outright die to neglect

that evil sociopathic bitch is no good just like Aline and Alicia

maelleNIGGERS are children, versoGODS are based

If my reality is a hundred times worse than the fantasy, then I doubt I would.

It doesn’t filter anyone, this is a highly emotional game and thus you become passionate about how the story plays out, one way or the other. Some value the lives of the painters, some value lumiere because that was how the game set out. Nobody’s wrong in valuing either ending, but I do wonder about the people who dismiss lumiere’s survival. Not sure why they turn their back on the entire impetus of the campaign and side with gods over people

if I say the Reddit genocide word it will mean I didn't just say my kid should die for her own good and I didn't kill all those people in the painting anyways

lol!

wlbt.com/2024/03/21/parents-autistic-daughter-who-melted-into-couch-sentenced/
Is this you?

Muh drugs

Do you retards ever get new material? I get Renoir's POV. If I were him, I would do the same. But I am not him. I play from the perspective of Maellie and those in the canvas. So I am not obligated to give a fuck. This truly seems to be a beyond the typical Anon Babbleermin's comprehension.

i'm not saying maelle should start taking cold showers and doing pilates. only saying death belongs to the order of reality, not fantasy. reality will always have the final say.

hey man she was happy melting into the couch and that's all that matters

So would Versofags kill themselves if it was proven that some kind of god is real and we are all just creations of a higher being, and therefore worthless and soulless?

I play from the perspective of Maellie

so I chose her to die

lol
also you're troon

Sciel has this emotional intelligence that she knows how someone feels and how to approach them, I love female characters like this.
Like in the ending when Verso sees the portal, she knows exactly what he's about to do

wrong and sociopathic bitch denies the humanity of the painting people

bait the Maellefag

get the Versofags who didn't read the reply chain

hey I know you thought you had a point here but I'll need to live for 100 years of watching everyone I know die while I'm alone and know I'm fake first, then I'll get back to toy

Yeah, you will die and it is the end of experience. That is unavoidable. But if you can choose that the life before that point is better than what fate has thrust onto you, who could be blamed for choosing that life?

No argument

Fetish out of nowhere.

Yep. You lost.

i wouldn't blame a traumatized child like maelle for choosing the canvas, but she won't stay a child forever. i didn't

I'm not AGP okay I just play from a woman's perspective am also self destructive and chose the ending where she dies XD

lol

She will live almost a full lifetime in the painting before she dies. So the choice literally becomes

Leave the painting and live a depressing life as a cripple who has lost and will lose more loved ones before death

Stay in the painting and live a life of contentment without grief ever again until death

She will live almost a full lifetime in the painting before she dies

good old headcanon at work again
They literally cannot accept what happens in the game so they just ignore what the characters told them and make up their own shit
Like the 50th time this thread LOL

play the game retard

The only thing remotely childish about her decision to not outright abandon her second life is keeping Verso in it. And even then, he's on borrowed time. So when he dies in the canvas, no one can use the excuse she's running away from confronting grief any more.
Mmkay, sweetie. It's okay, you lost, kay? Go beat off to some tranny porn now.

Time dilation between the real world and the painted world is a fact in the game though?

you already got told why your headcanon is wrong but your other choice is also headcanon because you are EXPLICITLY SHOWN you are wrong
fucking kek

It’s been a good thread, but our time is nearly up. See you in the next one boys.

as is the fact that Maelle is weak as a painter (she wanted to be a writer and that is what got Verso killed), she has been there 16 years as it is and her father tells her she will not last and does not understand the price
PLAY
THE
FUCKING
GAME
SECONDARY

her keeping verso in the canvas is secondary to the problem of living in the canvas to begin with. anyone who can't face the music, whether the circumstances of their life are their fault or not, is a child. they're allowed to be a child for a time, but not forever. i don't make the rules. reality does. eat lotus petals until you die or face the truth.

Shown what? That she is with (some of) the people she loves? Who will also age and suffer, or might even die before she does.

Yay?

Are you fucking retarded (rhetorical question?) Time passes by at a snails pace in the real world, which is why almost no time has passed despite the fracture (when Renoir entered the canvas) taking place 67 years ago in the canvas' universe.

How are you this fucking retarded? Is someone helping you?