Sits down and does nothing to stop Verso from dissolve everything
Is she stupid?
Sits down and does nothing to stop Verso from dissolve everything
Maybe she knows a snitch when she sees one.
You know Verso is immortal, right?
she would dissolve like Sciel if she crossed the portal you brainlet, so she just sit here in contempt
she couldn't cross the portal without dissolving in seconds
She's hot so who cares?
Is she stupid?
No, because she'd immediately die when crossing the portal. The only stupid one here is you for not even paying attention.
i felt really bad for them, but after fight with Renoir i just couldn't bring myself to not saving his family
besides, i felt bad for Verso even more, and Maelie was just delusional bitch
I felt bad for this guy who murdered his expedition and several others thereafter, who has been lying from the very first moment of his appearance
I didn't. Alicia will die a paint addict in the canvas, but she originally died in the fire together with Verso anyway. Maelle's personality has been entirely overwritten when Alicia came back, she only has her memories now.
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She'd dissolve in seconds after crossing through the portal. What the fuck else was she supposed to do?
What can she do? She'll disappear if she steps out. Staring him down and making sure he knows how much she hates him is all she has left and I'm glad she's the last one to go
i felt bad for Verso even more
For the lying, manipulative, egotistical, selfish murderer
Do Versofags really
Right up until he dies, yes.
finally let down your guard and let verso fuck you
he literally betrays you after
you can literally see the exact moment she became a feminist
She can't take back the fact that she fucks him, after his first betrayal no less!
Verso is the most feminine character other than than the Painters. Lies, manipulates, is selfish, betrays, is always the victim.
You don't get it, he lied to what are basically characters you made up in your mind! That means he's evil!
But they are not made up, they are real people
Too late, she's already been well Versed.
that sequence was brutal, hard to not feel for lune, after all that effort shes betrayed and left to die
Do real people dissolve into flower petals when somebody else wills it?
noooooo they arent real its just like the sims next youll be telling me they arent in a computer but are in some sort of magical canvas
The only real person in the painting outside of Maelle and Renoir at this point was arguably Verso. And even then that's a stretch since he's basically just a copy of the real thing.
He is no more or less real than any other painted creation.
i don't get how people can ignore the fact that verso's ending is genocide
"they can be turned to flower petals if someone wills it" so can you. the government can just decide to drone bomb your house if they want. i guess you're fake too.
like gestrals and esquire and lumiere people are fully conscious "b-b-but they shouldn't exist!" too bad. they do. i guess all mothers should kill their unwanted children even after birth right? totally ridiculous.
She can't. That area he's in is instant gommage for painted people.
I felt awful about my bros Esquie and Monoco. That shit really hurt me.
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i don't get how people can ignore the fact that verso's ending is genocide
Because it's a videogame
Autists cant comprehend this. Many such cases.
verso's ending is genocide
Everybody is already "dead" at that point. the Verso ending kills precisely 2 "people"
Even the painters acknowledge he's not a copy. Everyone in the game keeps telling him he's his own person
muh sims
Do real people make magical paintings that contain entire worlds?
Both endings are fine from different points of view
Also I would like to point out that painted Verso has lived for more than 100 years. The dude was tired of it all and would be condemned to basically living forever in that painted world if he didn't do anything, so I find his actions understandable too.
Are you really "dead" if you can easily come back? People "die" all the time but can be resurrected through something like cpr.
You are also forgetting the gestrals and grandis.
do you take the story of a book seriously? if the same story was told in a book is that more or less a serious work to you?
how are they dead? their existence is contingent on several factors none of which are guaranteed. that's not different from you or me.
Luckily for Verso he gets to die in both endings. He is just being a little bitch about it in Maelle's ending.
Even the painters acknowledge he's not a copy.
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Renoir establishes that the adult Verso seen is a copy created by his wife
Painted Verso was created by Aline, who doesn't know how to create a real man. But that's still on her for bringing him endless suffering for her own good feel moments
genocide
it's like deleting some old save file you had some emotional attachment to.
nothing else
No he doesn't? He (both child Verso and painted Verso) stay alive in Maelle's ending, probably forever
the game is so shit once you get past act 2, garbage story developments that make everything in the "world" feel pointless and the gameplay balance is shite too with pictos giving you a bazillion stat points. makes the stat points you earn through leveling basically pointless
they're characters in a literal piece of art. No amount of le gnostic idiocy changes that.
the choices are destroy the artwork or persist in escapism until the point of death
Maelle allows him to age. The obvious implication of this is that he will eventually die of old age.
Thing is Alicia can't bring more people back. They're all left to be alone forever in an empty world.
removing the damage cap was a serious mistake. If they really felt the need to they should have raised it to 99,999 or at most 999,999 and balanced their "endgame" around that
Lune deserved better than this story.
I feel like you're trying to explain to a drug abuser that being lost in the sauce is bad
If this game's story were in a book it would be in YA fantasy section and I'd never have touched it. In fact this game's story reminds me of childrens philosophy book Sophie's World.
Removing the damage cap is fine, but I feel like it should've been done in two steps - one after the Paintress and one after the final boss with the game telling you you can reload your save and keep doing all of the optional stuff.
Also Reacher should've been a mandatory location that you go to before the final confrontation in Lumiere
Verso is bad because... he just is, okay?! I NEED TO TORMENT HIM FOR AN ETERNITY! HE DESERVES IT!
very normal behavior by maellefags
that analogy does not stand up to the fact that the painted beings are portrayed as real in every possible way. the game uses the fact they are relatable humans stuck in a terrible situation to propel the plot from hour 1 through 10 only to give up and eventually become a game about how the only people that matter are the Aristocrat Gods of reality and everyone else is just fodder.
in a way it fits. they created a mirror for how elites feel in our real world, intentional or not.
Yeah I can’t have a serious discussion about this game until Versofags acknowledge that everything has a soul in the painting. It’s said a few times by Verso’s soul in the painting. It’s never denied by Renoir. It’s what you’re being prepared for when you meet nevrons who aren’t hostile and just want to see their “mother” even if their mother could not care less about them and only wanted them to be mindless killing machines. Thinking the ending is just about unplugging a computer is willfully ignoring so many hints it has to be a cope.
Kill thousands of people, including your girlfriend, is bad.
as real in every possible way
Damn just like my sims!
Who did he kill, personally?
"People" of Lumiere got groomaged by Renoir, while the only real people (painters) got kicked out of it and he commited suicide.
Where's the killing thousands of people bit?
throwing away your elementary school art portfolio makes you literally hitler.
Or a gay russain kid's knock off barbies.
He just killed Sciel and Lune, really.
Everyone else just stays as dead as they were and his original can finally fucking die as he wants.
Sciel and Lune were also a part of his soul, he didn't kill anybody but himself
at that point everyone knew they were inside a painting. Her face not only conveys that, but that she is seeing everything coming to an end.
People" of Lumiere got groomaged by Renoir
Because of the actions Verso takes. They would have lived for many years longer if not for Verso. How is that not him killing them?
Everyone else just stays as dead as they were
But Verso is the reason they died in the first place.
Remove verso and they all just die in general because they wouldn't reach the paintress anyway.
I dont get it wtf is happening
So the painting is a matrix
Alicias mom created a matrix and got mad for being too long in the matrix. Verso wanted to free his mom from the matrix?
And now Alicia wants to live in the matrix forever?
Because of the actions Verso takes.
No, that's because of Renoir. He could, you know... not groomage them. That's purely on Renoir. Verso just wants peace and to finally rest and not be used as a toy forever.
Its the Barclay holodeck meme from TNG but real and faggoty.
Everyone in Lumiere would be allowed to live for years more.
If you give someone a gun knowing he will shoot someone, then you are also responsible for that person's death,
The chroma is a living thing. Fake Gustave isn’t really Gustave but he is alive and real. That’s how the magic canvas works. The soul essence can’t be destroyed without destroying Verso’s soul.
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If I threw your autistic in an oven and you came out as a fucking hot pocket where existence is literal pain and you magically had less prospects than you already do, would you live in the canvas free of everything with a brand new lease on life or die miserably in the "real" world because "muh escapism?"
We already know what your retarded ass would actually do. You're killing yourself or going in the canvas. Either way, you "escape" like a bitch. Just like Verso and Maelle.
Ok now translate this
Verso made a fake world inside a painting with his soul, this is a power their family has.
After he died, the only remnant of his soul in the world was inside the painting.
So Aline, in her massive grief, took the painting, painted her whole family (fucking Alicia over) in the painting and went to live there.
Renoir doesn't agree with that so he decided to destroy the whole thing until she was forced to come back.
no the story literally is
Aline creates the people of Lumiere
Renoir calls her retarded and tells her to turn the game off
she freaks out and throws hands over this insult
she traps Renoir in a stone while she tries to find a way to get rid of him
he wears her down over a period of 67 years
she has to clean up her save file by killing off a portion of her own population every year in order to keep the game running
Her own fake Verso sees this and is pissed off but he knows he can't beat her unless a real painter joins him
we end up finding out that she originally pointed out to him that staying in the art is unhealthy but having been buck broken by her son's death she forgot her own rules
There is no fake Gustave. As far as we know he doesn't have a real world equivalent.
Because of the actions Verso takes. They would have lived for many years longer if not for Verso. How is that not him killing them?
What retarded logic. What, did Esquie kill them because he helped the cross the ocean? Did Gustave kill them because he made the Lumina Converter enabling them to defeat the Paintress? Did the people actually commit suicide by sending Expedition 33?
because if i was Verso i'd do the same thing
and what is Maelie doing? keeping Lumiere citizens "alive" by turning them into some uncany valley manequins with empty eyes. she was power tripping and destroying her life at the same time thinking that it's the good life for her.
she's only 16 for fucks sake, didn't you see how much Renoir loves her? despite Verso dying because of her?
with such supportive parent you still have a bright future ahead of you. and i know that she's burned and is suffering, but such is life. living in canvas, full of delusions, surrounded by fake people while hurting your real family is not a good thing, no matter what people say.
if Maelie was dosing Vero's canvas in moderate ammount only going there from time to time to see her friends and Verso and then leaving after a while it would be perfectly ok, but she went completly insane and wanted to spend her entire life in the canvas.
Maelle ending is back to status quo meaning your whole Expedition was done for nothing. Nothing changes, the world will still end thanks to a stupid, addicted woman. And the family will be in disarray instead of going to the real world to deal with real world problems.
One of the reasons Painted Verso is sad in Maelle's ending is because he couldn't free ChildVerso (piece of the soul of the real Verso) who cannot stop painting.
Verso is also the reason they lived in the first place.
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It is the Barclay holodeck meme ftrom TNG but real and faggoty
So Verso wanted to end the matrix and her mom to finally move on?
Verso made his actions knowing full well that it would kill thousands of people if he did. That is different from your other examples.
Verso is also the reason they lived in the first place.
Real Verso is the reason they lived. Painted Verso is not Real Verso however so he doesn't get to claim his accomplishment.
Yes, they need to destroy the painting so Aline will recover.
Except now Alicia went fullretard because she decided that going back to her family and burned body was a big no no.
Yes. Even if Painted Verso/Little Boy does not directly just want them to stop being addicted to being in the canvas, him wanting to finally stop it all actually helps the whole family.
If Alicia stays inside the painting then the family goes to absolute shit.
Esquie and Monoco knew as well.
Maelle’s ending Gustave. Clearly even if she could get some of his chroma, he’s largely a reconstruction.
Did Esquie know?
he wears her down over a period of 67 years
Dont forget best girl Clea sprinkling killer monsters everywhere that take Chroma out of circulation to weaken Aline
And that very same Verso just wants to end it all, which Alicia won't allow him to do because she wants to keep playing pretend.
Mind you, she can literally paint her own worlds if all she needs is escapism, but she's abusing Verso's soul like her mother.
watch your brother die in your hands begging you to end his and your family's suffering
what? you want to play some piano? alright then!
wooow such good ending
Verso is the one who put his soul into the canvas to begin with. He knew what that meant.
so far every single man picks verso's ending and moving on with grief
so far every single woman and tranny picks maelle's ending and living in an escapist fantasy (and the few pedos that will excuse maelle for enslaving gustav and verso to live forever and not be able to die cause she doesn't want to let go)
you look at the avatars of the people whining about verso on twitter or reddit being selfish it's always women/"women"
Esquie is smarter than he lets on
Says who. You. That's your headcanon.
Dropkick Maelle into a woodchipper
You can't make an omelet without crushing a few frogs.
Yes, that he wanted a whimsical world filled with kind and stupid beings who love fighting and never really die. Because he was a kid.
Mind you, she can literally paint her own worlds if all she needs is escapism, but she's abusing Verso's soul like her mother.
Maellefags keep forgetting this and act as if that canvas is the only canvas that ever existed and could be used. It's only unique because of a part of Verso's soul - BUT - what's stopping them from painting Verso in a different canvas? Nothing. Since that soul part is not painted Verso himself as was stated in the game many times, there's no difference between a painted Verso in this canvas or in another.
Go back there, faggot.
there's not enough info in maelles epilogue to say she mindraped the painted people. the information we do have makes it look like they are all acting normally but it is painted verso who is coerced to act. there is an implication there that if she can do it to verso why not to gustave for example, which i agree makes her look very bad.
would you rather a country or millions of innocents be snuffed out forever or ruled over by tyrants who use some degree of coercion to get what they want from time to time? is life more or less important than freedom? to me it's more important. if someone picks versos ending it's obvious where they stand on this question.
yes it is bad maelle is a frenzied god for the rest of time in a canvas. a proper JRPG style true ending would find a solution that allows the persistence of the canvas while also giving aline and alicia the talk they need to move on. they can visit once in a while but no more insanity. you can have the funeral irl and still keep the canvas around you just need the right people to talk to you. the right person is obviously not renoir, he is too close to the conflict and too emotional. frankly if gustave did not die he could do it. he could convince alicia to move forward. but they killed him cuz they needed a downer ending.
Verso deserves to be miserable though, nigga spent 67 years brooding, lying and betraying everyone
if Maelie was dosing Vero's canvas in moderate ammount only going there from time to time to see her friends and Verso and then leaving after a while it would be perfectly ok, but she went completly insane and wanted to spend her entire life in the canvas.
You forgot the part where Renoir is guaranteed to destroy the canvas the moment she's out of it.
Seriously the only thing this whole shitshow implies is that painters are a bunch of malevolent fucks, and the only thing writers did wrong was failing to eliminate them.
Dishonored style sequel where you play as a writer tasked with ending those shits playing gods when?
See, if Alicia was a decent human being she would have let him die.
But she won't, because keeping her fantasies running is more important than what people want.
look at those empty eyes and tell me that this is a human
also, they've been already gommaged, and WE KNOW for a fact, that you can bring someone back to life - but it WON'T be the same person as before. Monoco clearly states that after death of that little gestral guy.
Maellie's ending is just gay and fake, and those people are not the same people she knew, they're just creations from her memory
Esquie and Monoco knew as well.
You can't say that out loud here. Because it'd just discard their "Verso is lying to get everyone killed and is a psycho" argument.
Everybody love Esquie and Monoco, yet nobody hate that they didn't reveal the expeditioners the truth.
That’s not Alicia bubba. Maelle killed her and stole her body.
People tend to say hapas are soulless abominations regardless of culture or media literacy. Its something everyone seems to agree on it.
None of those types exist in my country so I can't explain why everyone agrees on it.
Esquie clearly knows about the nature of their world. How could he not?
Nothing, Renoir and Verso tell Maelle that she can paint more canvas' where she isn't a freak and not be addicted to her grief like her mother
She just wants Gustav and Verso to be with her forever
You forgot the part where Renoir is guaranteed to destroy the canvas the moment she's out of it.
yes, but that's the point
if she wasn't such insane idiot, Renoir would probably let them keep the canvas. he himself said that he feels bad about destroying it, but it was the only way to stop Maelie and his wife from going absolutely insane.
if they were able to cope with his death and their mental problems there wouldn't be need to destroy it
But isnt renoir right?
So, I guess, she and Aline out of rehab could try to paint a world that has both Gustave, Verso, and isn't completely FUCKED UP
frankly if gustave did not die he could do it
gustave would tell her to fuck off and never come back to it.
he is
everyone who says otherwise either didn't play the game or didn't pay attention or is just straight up mental nigger
He is.
Real Renoir wants the same thing Painted Verso does. They both know the women won't stop snorting coke and no amount of explaining to them how dangerous it is will work.
He is, as painted Alicia said
he paints love through death
Hello, scat fetishist. May I help you commune with some local pajeets?
Women and girls need to stop obsessing over their sons and brothers.
That's it.
She cute
would you rather a country or millions of innocents be snuffed out forever or ruled over by tyrants who use some degree of coercion to get what they want from time to time?
of course not, but first of all - they were all created by Aline, second of all - if Aline didn't go totally insane and commited to the canvas destroying her real life Renoir wouldn't have to intervere - all Lumiere citizens would just live their lives, there would be no paintress and stuff, there wouldn't be nevrons
this whole thing is just complicated
Alicia causes Verso's death -> it causes Alina go fucking mental inside the canvas -> Renoir has to save her by destroying the canvas -> everything inside the canvas goes to shit because of that
if Alicia didn't decide to create a new fake family inside the canvas to spend her life there because of the grief, all of this wouldn't happened
It’s crazy how appropriate of a title “final fantasy” would be for this game.
This I really don't get, it was incredibly selfish. She could have kept the painting but let Verso die instead of bringing him back as her personal pianist
That would imply Alicia cares about the people in the canvas.
Which she doesn't.
Because unless you missed it, she's a selfish cunt.
As a man, I do not give a fuck about you or your grief. Your ideals can die along with your beloved Verso. I only care about the well being of those around me and those I have bonded with. And that is the canvas. Your "reality" can burn with the Dessendre manor and Verso's screams.
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How many times it needs to be explained for you morons and that Verso was the entire point she wanted to stay in the canvas. She's a sister that can't get over the death of her brother, the other sister is the same just in another way
Your "reality" can burn with the Dessendre manor and Verso's screams.
You do realize that when the Dessendre manor burns, so does "your world"?
People understandably loved the world but do mental gymnastics to keep it going, learn the lessons the game tried to teach you, grieve, and move on to new adventures.
There was no genocide, they were all dead when the choice was being made. All that's left are the gestrals that know about the rebirth cycle, and that they aren't the same coming back. Monoco and Esquie both know and support Verso's plan (monoco states it in his quest, that verso gave him and his people the gift of life, and rebirth, and wants to return that favor).
the other sister is the same just in another way
Far more constructive
She's a sister that can't get over the death of her brother,
So enslaving people is ok as long as you feel sad.
Imagine being so retarded and desperate for "got 'em" you can even grasp I'm referring to the very night everything went to shit and the writers caused the fire. By the way, the canvas survived the fire. Fucking retard.
exactly this
life in canvas is like heroin to her - she replaces her real life self with a perfectly healthy self, surrounds herself with all those people just to make herself feel good.
Alicia is not the Maelie we knew for the first 2 Acts of the game, and Act 3 Maelie/Alicia is a different person as well - at this point she's completly mental full of delusions
Props to the VA for sounding like a fucking crack addict when she's talking to her dad.
You didn't play the game in full then, retard.
Writers are battling with Painters, who allegedly already burned the manor once already.
Who do you think is going to defend the manor if the whole family is once again stuck in a painting, not caring about the real world?
Think about it deep and hard, you subsaharan iq monkey
Alicia's trauma of losing her brother overshadows everything else about her
I mean i am pro slavery generally. But that's not the point, i picked Verso's ending. I'm just saying Alicia's motivation is Verso, when you say why did she paint him in again, you miss the point
Did you miss the part where every painted person going through that portal gommaged?
Stop replying, retard. You already exposed yourself as a mouth breathing idiot with your first post. You have already lost this little exchange and there is nothing you can do to recover, you shit eating ape. Go kill yourself to alleviate someone's grief.
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Lmao
for me, it's any of the Renoir or flying waters battle themes
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Nobody has mentioned the best part of the game is the lack of blacks. The one guy gets killed off immediately
this is bullshit
she wasn't there for Verso, she was there, because she could live as a healthy happy person surrounded by people who were like a family to her, a better family than her real life family
"see things how they are, not how you want them to be" is a quote that perfectlly summarizes this
brainlets say that Verso is being selfish and doing stuff only for his own gain - and it's a complete opposite - he sacrifices everyone and everything, and even himself, despite the fact that it's obviously hard for him to lie and betray people - just so he can save REAL FAMILY. he's not even a real person, he's just some leftovers of Verso's soul - he's not a real Verso.
meanwhile Maellie does everything just for herself, just to feel good, just to "live a good life" which is completly FAKE - she is the one who uses people for her own gain.
if you watched that scene at the start of Act 3 where she talks to Renoir, and he suggests destroying the canvas she completly loses her mind, it's a turning point where her delusions take over all the logic and reason
Stop replying, retard. You already exposed yourself as a mouth breathing idiot with your first post. You have already lost this little exchange and there is nothing you can do to recover, you shit eating ape. Go kill yourself to alleviate someone's grief.
damn this rajesh SEETHING lmoa
he sacrifices everyone and everything, and even himself
Verso wants to die. It's not a sacrifice.
this is proof that the DEI/representation types don't actually play games
apparently the game is woke because of that nignog according to some brainlets
which is completly FAKE
According to who. You?
he wants to die for various of reasons and main reason is that he sees his family suffering.
he wants canvas to be destroyed so it can't cause any more harm, despite knowing that his dear friends Esquie and Monoco will cease to exist.
in that cutscene after Paintress fight he tells her that it will soon be over and his voice cracks like he's about to burst with tears. he's not doing this just for himself, he's doing it to save his family knowing that his "existence" brings only pain, there's a lot of logic behind his action, while Maellie is being completly selfish
all of alicia's nightmare sequences are in monochrome
maelle's ending is in monochrome
umm achstually as an expert in media literacy maelle is the good ending cause she forces dead people to live forever for her enjoyment
Retarded frogposter hiding his seethe behind a smug pepe
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Pretty sure it was Verso and Maelle before Lune and Sciel get rez’d. Easier because they got gommaged, people who actually died are very difficult to reassemble. Maybe in her ending she is skilled enough at that point to do it.
Whether or not Maelle is being selfish is irrelevant because her actions doesn't kill thousands of people.
Meanwhile Verso's "selfless" action does.
weebfag doesn't understand the game
not surprising
according to the game.
canvas was created by Verso, and Aline created "humans" who are inside it.
and again, nigger, read this post all those people got gommaged and then brought to life again and they're literally not the same people they used to be, they're just some recreations based on Maelie's memories of them
How about you post the pic of what she says when Verso beats her, aka "Please don't leave me again"
Alicia is a paintress who has been in many canvases, she can always paint another, Verso tells her as much, she can even bring all of her fake friends back, as they are all painted by her mother, who is still alive.
There is only one reason she won't let go of this specific canvas, and that is Verso.
So no, what YOU'RE saying is bullshit, that wouldn't make sense in the universe of this world.
according to the game when it established that painters can create worlds on canvas
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You are so focused on the subtext that you are missing the text.
GET OUT OF THE CANVAS YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF
As the anon said, that's your retarded headcanon. The reasons she could not resurrect everyone immediately was due to the lack of chroma. Did you even play the game?
"People" means "humans".
they're literally not the same people they used to be, they're just some recreations based on Maelie's memories of them
Pure headcanon.
The game doesn't support this at all.
oh right, thanks for proving me that she's being selfish by wanting Verso to be on her side, despite it fucking killing her, inflicting him SO MUCH PAIN, and destroying their family
Whether or not Maelle is being selfish is irrelevant because her actions doesn't kill thousands of people.
I experienced the game through the lens of a created NPC therefore it's real to me
NO! Renoir not yet!
read that other post again
Monoco says that you can bring them to live, but they won't ever be the same
they will look and act the same, but they're not the same
you are huffing the same copium Maelie does lmao
they're just some recreations based on Maelie's memories of them
That's just wrong, you absolute fucking retard
He took their chroma and repainted them exactly how they were before.
reminder not to delete your Sims 4 save files, or you're comitting genocide
I do that daily a few times because I LOVE genocide
Game never says this. At any point. That is the lopsided conclusion you came to to justify your endgame choices.
they're just some recreations based on Maelie's memories of them
Oh, fuck off with this headcanon. No wonder you retards are trying to argue when all you can do is keep making shit up.
The painted world is just as real to me as the world outside the canvas. In fact I care much more about the fate of the canvas than the outside world because I actually spent time in the canvas. I know nothing at all about the people and world outside it.
Uhh this ending is bad because the people who made the game think it’s bad! They can’t be wrong about anything because they made this slop for me and I love them for it!!
PLAY ME A SONG MR. PIANO MAN
PLAY US A SONG TONIGHT
WELL WE’RE ALL IN THE MOOD FOR A MELODY
AND YOU’VE GOT US FEELING ALRIGHT
im too lazy to scrool through thousands of screens just to post that Monoco dialogue
whatever helps you sleep at night retards
Monoco is talking about Gestrals. And we can see how different resurrected Noco is from how he was before. Compare that to Sciel and Lune who are the exact same as they were the entire game. Nothing has changed with them.
There are many races in Lumiere, they are painted by Aline which imo makes sense because she is an old lady interest in humanities.
also
THEY WERE LITERALLY MADE BY ALINE - thus they're not real making my point even stronger :)
i hope this helps you
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Good thing you don't have to as Gestrals breaking is not the same as a human gommaging, you damn retard.
im too lazy to scrool through thousands of screens just to post that Monoco dialogue
That's because it doesn't exist.
I'll take that as admission of defeat.
You are literally made by your mother. Are you not real?
The Dessendre family needs to prioritise the fight against the writers right now.
but they're real in my head...
so you're just straight up delusional. got it.
take your seat in the cave
The big bang/God whatever the fuck you believe in made you. Delete yourself, fake bitch.
THEY WERE LITERALLY MADE BY ALINE - thus they're not real
What kind of nonsense conclusion is that.
Since when, being made by someone makes you not real?
nice comparison brainlet lmao
if i draw some scribbles on the paper you'll say that they're real humans? kekkarooooo
What is it about the way that Maelle acts that makes her more real than Verso, Gustave, Lune or Sciel?
Daily reminder your computer is not a magical canvas that you can go in and explorer lol
"Verso is lying to everyone"
Meanwhile Esquie and Monoco knows the full truth about everything and don't tell anybody
Still loved by every player
Versohaters are speedrunners skipping cutscenes and clues.
The gestral rebirth process is not the same. It’s a feature Verso put in that’s analogous to how families get new dogs because that’s what Gestrals represent.
so you're the kind of guy who says AI is sentinent because it can act like a human
again, whatever helps you sleep at night
Concession accepted.
uhhh she has the power to paint worlds? She can leave the canvas without dying?
I'm not the picture of myself my mom hangs on the wall.
I just created a new game in Sims 4 and have friends there, which means they're real
Whered you get that magical paper nigga
he doesn't have a going into games machine
Concession accepted
here is the rakesh again, kek
hope he's at least getting 10 rupees a post for this
Based retard
So you're one of those christkikes who says souls exist.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
right back at you
Maelle's ending is BY FAR the best one because of the kino that happens. It's so god damn satisfying to see Verso get what he deserves.
so you don't even deny this KEK
So you're one of those christkikes who says souls exist.
im not btw
Verso deserves to eternally be forced to be a toy because he just does, okay?!
You see painting people in a canvas is exactly the same as giving birth to actual life
Holy detachment from reality
Verso - A man forced to play
if the power goes out and your computer stops running the power company killed your friends.
if your save file gets corrupted than Samsung killed your friends.
just admit you didn't play the game ok?
They seem to think Verso will grow out of it. They accept either ending.
God I wish. I would live a thousand lifetimes in there.
I progressed pretty good, but the Création in act 3 cucks me.
Is there a long way to go after that?
Your skydaddy is not real.
no, it's literally the boss before the final sequence, but if he BTFO's you hard I suggest getting 2-5 levels more and returning
brainlet plays a fantasy RPG
WTF GUYS MAGIC ISNT REAL THIS CANT BE REAL AHHHHHH IM LITERALLY GOING INSANE
It's exactly the same. The people of the canvas are alive after all.
wrong
THIS was kino, 50 times more kino that Maelle's ending
Based schizo anon, keep it up
He right though, you're coping.
brainlet plays a fantasy RPG
WTF GUYS MAGIC IS REAL THIS IS REAL AAAAHHHHH IM LITERALLY GOING INSANE
stop projecting stuff m8
you have no arguments so ur starting to shit your pants making projections that are not even close to being right lol
Magic exists in the fictional story anon.
because he lies and manipulates and fucks women days before he kills them. because he hides esquie’s ability to fly trapping them on the island. because he tells maelle she can delude herself in another painting he just wants to die and he’ll kill everyone so he’s able to.
Eternally live in escapism running from reality inside a painting, being fully councious that the people inside it are simulacra or face the harsh reality, being fully concious that the only memory of your brother will be his grave, both bittersweet endings, not good nor bad, both understandable from each characters point of view
WAAAAH ACHTSUALLY YOU SHOULD STAY IN THE PAINTING BECAUSE NO ONE DIES
And that's why you should gatekeep what you like from smooth brained retards who still process emotions in terms of happy or sad like toddlers
haven't played the game award
Magic literally is real in the story..
God, I can't stop laughing at this. Anon Babble ruined (enhanced) this scene for me. Absolute kino.
Yes, actually. The traitorous fuck deserves exactly that. But Maelle GOD is merciful and will allow him to die of old age after the cuck serves his penance. Kneel.
Yeah, that's not the point, it was about making fun of verso haters (that just take whatever points fit their own canon, disregarding other piece of information).
If telling the truth is so important to the verso-haters, why aren't they mad that Monoco and Esquie both withheld the truth from the team? Not only they knew about everything, they hid it and went alongside Verso.
They should just be as bad as him, if people hate him, right? And that's what is funny, people conveniently forgets that.
They say they’re real in the game ao where do you guys get this shit
Argument about what?
I've already destroyed you.
Again, your jewish tribal skydaddy is not real.
trying to argue with a waifufag
pointless indeed
Every lore thread become people explaining an speedreader the obvious shit the game tells you. Read nigga reaaad
better story thats more discussed than any other recent Final Fantasy game
How did the French do it bros?
They're real
They can't get out of the painting
So they're not
yes, now go back to playing the piano, bitchboy
who says that? Certainly not the painters. When you play Skyrim do the characters remind you that they're fake or do they present themselves as real people?
it's real in my head too
Most of the contention about the end games philosophy comes down to whether or not you believe the painted world is carries any value. I do wish the that the sentience of the people of Lumiere was touched on more.
Monoco is literally a dog and Esquie a teddy bear I’m not going to judge them like I do Verso
What a lucky man Verso is. Our beloved Paintress looks so happy. Even developed smile lines.
There is nothing to argue. Verso is going to die, so your entire argument falls apart at the seams.
story about magical painters that can create pocket dimensions isnt real because it just cant be ok!
Maellefags truly believe she will stop doing drugs AFTER JUST THIS ONCE
kek
KEK
why is being confined to a fantasy world disqualifying for being real.
real here means that they are fully conscious living sapient beings. they may live in a fantasy world but their lives are really not different from our own other than the fact their world is a simulacrum.
You can’t jump realities either
Same as everyone else that has played this game. Its a pretty kino game, huh.
And? They exist in the canvas.
If you plan on doing a replay you should read all of the dialogue with Verso’s soul when he appears. He literally says they have souls at one point.
Is 33 December a typo? You know a typo made by a Writer?
Just got to act 3
I dont get it. Verso was fighting to pull out his mom from the canvas, and now he is fighting to let Maele to be there forever? thats dumb
Maelle... I'm tired...
Get on the stage, Verso
make every character likable
give them all decent motives why they do the things they do
don't overexplain, give the audience enough clues and expect them to not be fully retarded/ socially stunted
Basically a guide on how to not write FF characters and stories
so every time a fire occupancy simulation is run the company creates a set of totally REAL people and then sees how many people can escape the building before they're burned to death.
Clearly the company running these tests are a bunch of psychopathic murdering arsonists
youtube.com
There is nothing wrong with being selfish you libtard fuck
No, it's a world where December has at least 33 days.
But half of them arent real. Take your meds, schizo!
damn, that's literally genocide... wow... I can't believe this...
It's AI like 90% of this game
Lmfao bro is lied to for 30 hours by verso and now just believes him again for no reason
how many people fuck your retarded ass over irl constantly?
someone post maelle's pussy already
Thats done on a computer with 3D polygons that represent people. Magical canvases arent real anon.
But the canvas isn't reality sweetheart, it's just a fictional cope perpetrated by aline to deal with her son's death
yes, of course the artist (in this example being a literal child) would would have a feeling that the art is real to them.
at the point in the story which we inhabit the painting it has already been torn asunder by the artist's grieving family to the point that even the aged facsimile is sick of the world he created and wants to erase it so his family can move on
yes they are not real. even in the universe in which they exist they are not considered real
Of course theyre real. The whole game takes place in one.
you're all little creatures in my canvas
this game really filters people who can't let go
bet you also grabbed all of the gold from Sierra Madre
Your schizo delusions and imaginary friends are also not real
yes they are not real. even in the universe in which they exist they are not considered real
???
Stop projecting
Nobody in universe considers them real except the drug addicts
Are you sure is not some foreshadow of The Writers?
if some weird idiot made a game in which the premise was exactly the same as clair obscur, in that, all of the characters live full enough lives in a fictional world that has a 'death date', imagined here as maybe parts of their world burning into flame over time, at random, and we then got to the end of the game and found the only reason the entire thing hasn't burned down immediately is a rogue programmer is trying to stop the fire but can't stop all of it and so some part of the 'world' is consumed after some amount of time, guess what. we would have to say that in that story, the fire simulation people are legitimate human-like consciousnesses because that's what the writer wrote.
the reason we don't have to say that's true for the video you linked is because, to our knowledge, the computer programmer making the simulation did not imbue them with life, with consciousness. if we were somehow able to see that they actually were conscious in the simulation, that obviously opens a huge ethical can of worms for that simulation. isn't that pretty straightforward?
i feel like you guys are retarded.
You imbeciles, each and every single painted character is a shadow of the painter, when Maelle dissipates she goes back into Alicia, every other painted being is the same, the only painted beings that truly disappear are the ones Verso created because he's fucking dead.
You stupid fucks
Yes.
Real Verso was a drug addict?
They say they’re real in the game
Is it stated anywhere that anyone outside of Painters can enter the canvas?
If no one besides them can, then their "superpowers" are really wack. You're just getting a homemade drug that you can very easily lose yourself in.
paintings disapear when the painter dies
lol
Replay the game. With the audio and subtitles on this time.
This post that you just wrote wouldn't disappear if you died, but it is still you
the bitch at the begining said that she needs to go and fight in world war 1 with her powers
how does it feel to be fucking stupid?
No need, i got it right the first time, unlike certain someones. The painted characters come from the sea of the soul of the painter, they are shadows.
i feel like you guys are retarded.
I think they are on the spectrum or something
The average anon is too stupid to realize that, give it up or you will only get upset for nothing
go and samefag somewhere else you dumb retard
lmao holy shit
Clowns, something can't come out of nothing.
what? when? who?
The painted people are real because.... because they say so
this is a child's interpretation Descartes. The game LITERALLY tells you straight up that the world in the canvas is not real. The only reason Alecia wants to stay there is because she's sad about being crispy IRL. If this game were about a fat neckbeard that convinced himself WOW was real because people laugh at him when he goes outside you'd have a different perspective.
It’s a magic canvas not a computer program. Chroma makes life and it stops existing when Verso’s soul stops painting, so it can be said to emanate from him like how some sects of Christianity think of our souls as emanating from God or how it works in a lot of Eastern religions where all contains a spirit that is constantly being recycled into new things.
shit can come out of my ass though
Nono, i side with the guy, the majority of this site is objectively retarded
Verso's child NPC tells you he believes the world is real though
This game is absolutely nothing like Final Fantasy, so I really don't get constantly using this game to shitpost about Final Fantasy. It just doesn't make any sense. Even if you want to pretend like Clair Obscur is tonally or thematically like Final Fantasy when it is not, FF hasnt' been turn based in over 20 years. There's simply no comparison to Final Fantasy to be made here.
Guys all final fantasy games arent real because magic isnt real fr no cap same as lord of the rings okay
Not true, Alicia specifically cares about this canvas because it is driven by Verso's soul.
Otherwise this is not a dilemma, she will just go into any other canvas and repaint her face and throat.
child tells you he believes fantasy is real
must be real then
Because you eat, dumbass
Even if you call yourself nothing, you are indeed not nothing.
I'm photosynthesizing you fucking mongoloid
You cant stop someone is is suicidal and doesnt care about dragging you down with them
Santa Claus is real because... he just is ok??
this is what maellefags believe apparently
He was a 9 year old child
And probably was also smart enough to realize they weren't real
The game is LITERALLY ff8 + ff10 + fft + matrix/lost/yugioh eypgt arc/fma2003
holy shit
yes and all the adults in the game know it's fake. I'm not interested in a child's perspective
Her interest is holding on selfishly to her own grief. if she cared about what's left of his soul she'd let him destroy himself. But she can't let himself do that because she's guilty about him already having sacrificed himself once for her. A sacrifice she WILL take in vain by persisting in the painting to the point her real body dies
You really think once Maelle dies in her ending Renoir isn't going to come back pissed and delete the whole Canvas?
>Sits down and does nothing
Respect to the writers for that one. It's surprisingly difficult to realize that sometimes having no dialogue is the best dialogue.
Verso pickers only say the creations in the canvas are not real/don't have sentience/souls to make their genocidal decision softer on themselves. Easy to turn a blind eye to an incomprehensibly evil crime if you tell yourself the victim doesn't matter.
The ending wasnt a hard choice at all for me. None of the people in the painting world were real so who cares if they die. The only people who matter in the game are the family in the real world. Everyone else is expendable and superfluous.
The experts on humanity told me that he isn't a real person, so there is no issue.
genocidal
you're forgetting it's Renoir who groomed all of Paris, not Verso.
Renoir could just, you know, not do it
Yet again, selfishness is not a sin
A 16 year old girl cannot let her big brother whom she adored go, god what a bitch!
The narrative you're trying to paint is stupid
The inky thing Maelle's ending did was torture Verso (based) because when Maelle dies from her drug overdose, at worst, Renoir returns and destroys the canvas with absolutely NO regard or empathy at this point instead of being reasonable and communicating
Easy to turn a blind eye to an incomprehensibly evil crime if you tell yourself the victim doesn't matter.
Maelle literally plays godmode with everyone in the canvas and forces them into living forever until her death
Thats some demiurge diabolical shit far more worse than Verso
According to the game, painted verso is not real while the soul part of him that paints, is real.
where does it say the canvas world is fake?
The ending wasnt a hard choice at all for me. All of the people in the painting world were real so who would not care if they died. The people in the game mattered just as much as the family in the real world. Nobody is expendable and superfluous.
because it is driven by Verso's soul.
the only source we have for that is from Alicia, who is a mentally ill deluded burn victim
I picked Verso ending and that doesnt matter to me at all. What matters is everyone in the painting world isnt real so all of them dying doesnt matter. Destroying the painting to save even 1 irl person is fine.
I fully expected Renoir to say they weren’t real because that’s exactly what a father would say to his daughter if it were true. Instead he treats them with dignity and respect and is moved to let them continue existing.
letting a 16 year old girl spend the rest of her life high on fent is a good thing because otherwise she'd be sad ;_;
It's not a sin - just unfirente circumstances and grief, but letting your daughter fall into heroin cope with trauma is also not in any way intelligent
When you see the real world, control Alicia for a moment and when you listen to what Renoir says.
Renoir who groomed all of Paris
Man I didn't know he was serial pedophile.
Nowhere lol
Didn't think about that but that makes sense
One way or another Verso's world would probably end up erased eventually
What should I do to make a woman like Lune fall in love for me?
that whole family is full of sick fucks
Why are so many people pretending to be retarded. This is just like the neverending story.
Gets to spend the rest of his existence hanging out with friends in a world filled with people who love him
Hosting piano concerts whenever he wants
Composing music and having sex with Lune whenever he wants
Verso didn't get a fraction of the suffering he deserved
Anon renoir wasn't "moved" by Alicia and the others' speech. He was emotionally defeated and gave in based off of the pure cope that Maelle wasn't being a liar because he loves his daughter and wants to believe her. Verso confirms this MINUTES later.
Verso isn't omnipotent.
Is the implication supposed to be that the real irl Verso was actually also depressed and susical and killed himself on purpose in the house fire?
can you. the government can just decide to drone bomb your house if they want. i guess you're fake too.
I bet that sounded like a really smart thing in your brain, but no, you're an absolute fucking retard.
The game is LITERALLY ff8 + ff10 + fft + matrix/lost/yugioh eypgt arc/fma2003
No.
FFVIII
In what way? It's nothing like VIII. The gunblade trigger? It's much more comparable to Legend of Dragoon or Paper Mario or any of those games.
FFX
In what way? Having turn-based combat? Lol, you can't be serious, right? FFX didn't invent turn-based combat. Is it because Tidus is a dream? Even if that's your angle, Clair Obscur is much more comparable to Star Ocea 3, where it is revealed that they are living in a simulation/video game.
FFT
...what? I can't even pretend to know what you're talking about with this.
Matrix
Sure, but now we stopped comparing it to Final Fantasy.
I can't tell if you were being facetious or not with your reply. Like, if you're being facetious, I'm with you and we're on the same page. If you're being sincere, you're just wrong for comparing it to FF.
Alright, since they LITERALLY tell you straight up, show me the dialogue or journal entry that says so.
You can do that, right? Sounds simple.
I just like getting (you)s
What a nothing post. Nobody said he was.
This. Renoir simply doesn't want to fight anymore.
But even the painted version of him can read emotions and can see what's going on and what was happening with his mother before. Are you stupid?
Versofags are ungrateful emo fags
Checks out
suicidal*
What? That boy is confirmed to be Verso and it is confirmed that he is the one who is managing the canvas non-stop, if he stops, it disappears. See:
youtu.be
So? I am talking about Maelle's motivations here, not her fathers or anyone elses.
But she cute
can you. the government can just decide to drone bomb your house if they want. i guess you're fake too.
that's just the end result of watching too many Ukraine drone videos
look nigga LOOK
You're a retard if you don't see the similarities to those. Especially FFX, FFT, Matrix / Lost
Painted Verso is what Aline thought of Verso so it's a different version of him.
All we know is that Verso actually saved Alicia's life.
theres a Anon Babble thread about this game right now lol.
I do not know how this incoherent thought was rationalized as non-retarded before you posted, but color me impressed. The only thing Maelle has done is exactly what she set out to do: end the gommage and let the people of Lumiere live out happy lives. She is not "forcing" anyone to live except your piano playing cuck.
I love Sciel so much, bros.
She is so motherly and understanding and she reads people very well. And she's just fun.
i just unlocked monoco how should i build him
All she does is bring back people who died unfairly and had their future stolen from them, the only thing she actually does wrong with her power is keep paint Verso alive and he deserves to suffer.
so you're saying you're coping in your safe space to feel good instead of going out to the world to face it
hmmm... reminds me of something...
No, real life Verso died saving Alicia from fire.
This brooding, suicidal Verso you encounter in the game is Alina's version and if anything, she's REALLY off with the portrayal of her family members.
don't worry about back tracking to unlock the lesser enemies
I picked the Maelle ending not because I wanted to save the painted people but because that horrible family deserves to suffer. My boy Monoco is fucked either way but at least the painters will suffer
I made him a suicide bomber for buffs with auto-death and all of the death perk buffs for team
It was ludo
Some of Aline's finest work, you can tell out of everyone it's him that she couldn't bring herself to misrepresent. And it's ironic that it's her creation that ends up making the choice for canvas to go
Sweet taste of butthole
the husband of the woman who is in charge of the company who made this game is a turbo rich fag.
it didn't say anything about the canvas world being fake in that video, what part do you mean exactly?
This is just some bullshit interpretation. They got turned into chroma, and restored.
You'd be laughed out of any fantasy story discussion for claiming restoring someone's essence (chroma) to a physical state is not a resurrection, but here you are clinging to some retarded "they're copies" cope that's never stated. If they were Verso would be reeing about it since he actually *is* a copy creature.
You're a retard if you don't see the similarities to those.
You didn't actually reply to anything I said. If you want to help illustrate your point, you should reply to me and tell me why you falsely believe that Clair Obscur is comparable to Final Fantasy when there are no similarities.
Matrix / Lost
This isn't Final Fantasy. I don't even disagree with you about this, I just think it's more comparable to Star Ocean 3, because Star Ocean 3 is a video game, whereas neither Matrix nor Lost are.
Says the schizo versofag malding about this game on Anon Babble
Pottery
I like all of the main cast
Even Lune despite being pretty bitchy you can emphathise with her and her typical controlling asian parents. I wonder how much she's the self-insert of the main writer
so you missed the part where the real world exists OUTSIDE of the canvas? I'll just assume you're low IQ and cut you some slack
Which Maelle admits at the start of act 3 ("mama painted a rather unfortunate view of papa, but I assure you he's much nicer than portrayed")
Ie - painting renoir was a biased interpretation of Renoir from Aline, not actually how he is
Ie - everyone else is too
They're not real because they were painted by Aline who is not a god.
Weird that so many people have trouble understanding this
who are the worst, potterists or writters
That's some pretty headcanon to keep your delusions afloat, but i accept your concession
The magical canvas is also real and exists in the real world, retard
so you missed the part where the real world exists OUTSIDE of the canvas?
no of course not, that's impossible to miss
i think we've misunderstood each other, i believe the world inside of the canvas is just as real as the world outside of it
I'm not going to because you're actually a retard if you argue that this game is not like FFX, FFT, or Lost.
you're the one who needs to get (You)'s to survive, friend
this is the last one from me, I'm genociding you
I played this segment and rewatched it in the video. Did you play it or watch it? If you did, point me to the part where they say the creations in the canvas are just mindless husks putting up a facade of life, aren't capable of thoughts or emotions. For example Clea is a very straight forward no-nonsense person who doesn't care about the creations in the canvas. She should be able to confirm that they are not real and don't matter at all, right? Does she do that?
God created all of us, so by versosister logic none of you are real and should kys
Maelle literally plays godmode with everyone in the canvas and forces them into living forever until her death
What the fuck is wrong with Versofags, your headcanon is expanding by the day. Two more weeks of discussion and Maelle will be the marquis de sade toturing the (actually fake so it would be ok to kill them according to you) Lumierans daily.
The only thing Maelle did wrong is refuse to kill Verso, because she simply did not have the strength of will to do so. This is hell for Verso sure, but the insane cope that she's puppeting him has now somehow evolved into she's puppetting everyone.
And then you meet the real Renoir and he turns out to be even more genocidal than the painted Renoir.
To be fair, Alicia did fail her sales pitch for him.
The CEO is a man.
i think we've misunderstood each other, i believe the world inside of the canvas is just as real as the world outside of it
And you would be correct, fren.
STOP THE COUNT
I would if I could take everyone else down with me like Verso
I mean realistically all of this is just a blip in the universe and we're all just a small atom of something larger. If you think otherwise lel
What do you think universes and galaxies are? Do you think life ends here? Do you really think a water bear knows it's a water bear and sees us as we are? What an ego on you.
Monoco wanted to live in the end, you did your boy right.
Versofags keep on getting dumber. I mean they think the canvas is a computer running the sims lol
are you saying this is good or bad
plato's cave
Renoir says it multiple times. You just moved the goalpost to the character with the fewest lines in the entire game.
genocidal because he erases a drawing
Both Renoir have different personalities. Both Renoir have different goals. Despite being suave, Painted Renoir is a shiny pussy whereas real Renoir is a legit man
I'm not going to [read or reply to anything you said]
Well, then I accept your concession. You are wrong and your inability to reply to me proves it.
if you argue that this game is not like FFX, FFT, or Lost.
Once again, leave the non-FF stuff out of this. This is an almost entirely text-based website. Why are you refusing to engage with the text that is being present to you? There is no comparison to be made between Clair Obscur and Final Fantasy, because they are nothing alike, and any ways that Clair Obscur might have taken cues from Final Fantasy are more appropriately attributed to other non-FF games.
Esquie (and to a lesser extent Monoco) are creatures created to be simple and above all, very loyal to Verso. They are doing his bidding in this deception, they are not behind it, hence they take far less blame
Imbeciles, if you kill the writers, then there is no story
Holy fuck you guys are stupid
can the sims get out of the computer do to something?
can the painted people get out of the canvas?
How does it keep going back up
The only thing Maelle did wrong is refuse to kill Verso, because she simply did not have the strength of will to do so. This is hell for Verso sure, but the insane cope that she's puppeting him has now somehow evolved into she's puppetting everyone.
Are you serious. It just topped the first weekend playercount 20 days after release. I think only BG3 managed to do that
Ubisoft fags on suicide watch
can you get out of this material plane and meet our creator without dying? fuckin sim lmao
Our family paintings. The little one in the corner is mine.
Why was Alicia so hated?
she can even bring all of her fake friends back, as they are all painted by her mother, who is still alive
No she fucking can't. She can't just take their chroma, their essence, out of one canvas and put it into another. They can exist only in that world and even in that world Maelle had to track them down.
She has to *find* Sciel and Lune's specific chromas to bring them back.
Destruction of this canvas is destruction of any and all chroma used in it. Whether it can be extracted from the canvas is debatable, but moot. Renoir is burning that shit on the spot the moment she's out.
Keep typing walls, you're still a legitimate retard and nobody believes what you're writing. The game is clearly a large love letter to many aspects of FFX. The director has said this. You are retarded. Die.
can you prove who's the creator? can you name him? can you fight him?
What headcanon is there besides the voices in your head, DBSpic? You are so desperate to make Maelle into a villain, you are painting a whole new reality to support your delusions. Which, by the way, sounds quite familiar.
Monoco says that you can bring them to live, but they won't ever be the same
No he doesn't. You are thinking of the in universe, created by real Verso, way that Gestrals resurrect themselves. This has nothing to do with painters using painter power to restore paintings.
God is this your first fantasy story? I feel like i'm discussing this game with a bunch of sci fi fags that view the paintings as VR and only know SOMA rules.
Renoir says it multiple times? When? Show me. We are asking you to give some simple evidence for your theory but there's nothing so far. I can show you Renoir literally saying he knows how imporant and meaningful the creations inside the paintings are. What did I miss that contradicts his words there?
can you prove this world has a creator the same way the one in E33 does?
cogito ergo sum? I don't know what that means bruv i just want to commit genocide
Why are versofags like this?
Versofags going full schizo
Ohnononono
Keep typing walls
I've already accepted your concession due to your inability to read and reply to posts on a text-based website.
The game is clearly a large love letter to many aspects of FFX.
The things that could possibly be attributed to FFX are more accurately attributed to Star Ocean 3. There is simply no comparison to any Final Fantasy game that makes sense, unless you're a Boss Baby poster.
What's the French they write on the monolith in Maelle's last event? I know what it means, I just want the FR phrase.
can you prove who's the creator?
yes
can you name him?
Jesus Christ
can you fight him?
No, because unlike the painters who are Gods similar to gods found in greek mythology hes omnipotent
Aline is a bitch hag. The only guy in that family who did nothing wrong was Renoir.
Holy fuck, the entire point is Verso. What was the point of letting the canvas exist Verso is gone???
Just go make another fucking canvas and paint everyone there, what's the fucking difference?
Papa va t'en
feel like i'm discussing this game with a bunch of sci fi fags that view the paintings as VR and only know SOMA rules
Muh sims/matrix/holodeck, such brainlet takes. This isn't even a scifi game lmao
I mean no one, actually no one, even says its fake except Clea.
Even Renoir talks to the painted people like actual people (which shows him as more analogous to a god who does not value mortals as much as his kin than daddy mad you won't stop playing video games).
what do the japs think of this game? has anyone trekked to 2ch?
You are so desperate to make Maelle into a villain
I am sorry to inform you my mutt anon that both characters are wicked, but your little brain consumed by aspartame is incapable of comprehend it
Lmao the entire point is literally Verso
There is only one soul in the canvas, and it is forced to paint against his will. All the other "living beings" are just emanations of that singular soul
Should have painted a bigger picture instead of reading all day.
t.didnt play the game
the real world
It's not "the real world" , real french people cannot paint separate universes.
Nor is the magical nature of their world contained in canvas, the thing is floating around "IRL".
merci
christcuck
kek, like pottery
There is a source of that chroma, it's Aline. Aline painted them all, and yes including all the babies that were being born. She can repaint them whenever and wherever.
Haha thats kinda cute
THE PAINTED PEOPLE ARE NOT REAL....BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OKAY?
even though the game beats you over the head that they're real,sentient and have souls
Just say you put the needs of one over the needs of many instead of making a fool of yourselves
Japs don't play Western videogames.
Also, allegedly, they can't even pronounce the name of the game, because for them "Clair Obscur" sounds incomprehensible to say.
So they keep calling it "Something 33".
let me know where God hangs out so I can go and kill him
anyone else joining the party?
litteraly dad go away
Just sort the reviews by JP then copy & paste them into Google Translate or DeepL, spoiler alert: they fucking loved it.
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You should tell this to the other anon, not me
he's the one who wrote this babbling
Oh no anon dont format your hard drive or youll kill all the game universes and all the living souls trapped inside them
You are literally schizophrenic anon.
Most Versofags here are just escapist pseuds (they spend their lives here for fucks sake) but like the message of "manning up" and facing grief at the cost of "imaginary" genocide. Even though they'd make the same choice as Maelle when given the choice if they could live out their ideal life. They'd be finding the canvas very real if they spent an entire second life there and knew there was nothing but dogshit on the other side.
thanks bro. Wish my favorite jap artists on twitter played and made some art of it
Yeah I'm basically maelle on Anon Babble
Okay but the chroma she already used became the people. Even if she can somehow reabsorb it (it being separate from her now is a major plot point) to take it out, she...didn't. And won't, because Renoir won't allow her to and she doesn't want to use a separate canvas,that would require cooperation to help with Alicia's side goal of keeping the Lumierans alive, and trust from Renoir.
So to simplify : we don't know if its possible for her to do it, but let's assume she is.
Aline has to:
-take her chroma out of the painting
-the chroma has to somehow not lose the essence of what she painted in the painting
-recreate the people there.
Basically: can God yank souls from one universe to another? We are never told yes. Nor is such an "Ark" ending ever entertained by any Painter. Verso himself says "just paint new stuff" to Alicia.
Don't project your pathetic self unto others.
nooo please delete that it doesn't fit my narrative
Most Versofags here are just escapist pseuds
I don't think you know what escapism means (which the maelle ending is), you're just making a word salad
There's some JP made fanart.
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I got a question for people and correct me if i'm stupid or wrong or etc. But is Renoir the real one objectively a villain? Do we ever get a glimpse at the scale of which he and Clea will be fighting the writers at? Because perhaps it really is at such a degree where no halfassed measures can be taken so he really needs the canvas to fuck off and everyone on point that he can have?
When it comes to the Verso Maelle stuff there are points to be made. Personally id put Verso over Maelle but its similar to the Griffith situation. I would rather be seen as a hypocrite or dope out on power then live the rest of my life as a husk that is hardly "living". Since you miss out on 90% of lifes milestones anyways. People can screech its escapism and its immature and it might be but its not that hard of a decision to sympathize even if you can blame the characters for how they reached that point.
Yet another scifi fag trying to discuss fantasy with his reducto absurdo VR nonsense.
you sound like a tranny but unironically
Most Versofags here are just escapist pseuds
What did anon mean by this when Maelle's ending is the escapist ending?
These threads move way too fast. Doesn't seem genuine.
I was screaming like a fucking baby
10/10
It's the best game of all time
one of the reviews is: I'm glad the protagonist is not yet another pretty boy twink (host)
kek. their playtime's pretty low I wonder if they meant Gustave or Verso
for those who come after
Anon...
She doesn't need to reabsorb it, she created them, she can create them again, their essence is in her above everything, Chroma/paint/whatever is just material used. Before they existed they didn't have Chroma.
The only reason Maelle needs the Chroma is because she needs reconstruct from an already existing code, as she herself is not the source. Meanwhile Aline can just write the code again.
Hit a nerve huh? Versosisters.. not like this...
I wanna fuck charred Alicia!
But is Renoir the real one objectively a villain?
The beautiful thing about Renoir is that all versions of him are objectively correct in their pursuit. He might be framed as the antagonist, but he is always right. He's kinda like Clea in that regard, except he's a bit worse than Clea because he's stuck in an argument with his wife trying to get her to move on from her grief.
Do we ever get a glimpse at the scale of which he and Clea will be fighting the writers at?
No, I think this is either DLC or sequel bait or maybe even intended to be literally the writers of the story irl, or maybe even just intended to give us something to wonder about in the "real world", like December 33rd, or how/why the Writers used Maelle against the Painters, or why it seems like Maelle is predominantly a Writer and not at all a Painter.
The problem with your conclusion re: Maelle is that she's a freaking paintress, she can just stop vandalizing Verso's painting and go make her own world where she could be a 10/10 eternal cunny surrounded by giga chads. But she doesn't, she just keeps making a mockery of whatever's left of Verso's soul.
What nerve? It's crystal clear you haven't played the game
you forgot the part where Maelle needs the specific chroma of the people to bring them back fully.
I picked Maelle because I expected Verso to be a traitor at some point and didn't invest in his weapons or skills at all during the entire game
This game is pretty average, still quite impressive for a small team. The story itself is bland.
But is Renoir the real one objectively a villain
He is burning a species away because his wife went crazy. Yes.
But from Renoir's perspective he is a god, and Aline could create a thousand other worlds if restored, and she is his wife. From the Painter pespective I bet a fuckton of canvases were just burned or destroyed by accident over the years. They go "oh well" rather than mour universe level genocides.
But as for the writers, only Clea seems to give a rat's ass about that, as her own form of grief processing. Renoir just wants his family back.
Side note: I'm deeply amused by everyone going with the "writers also exist in the same reality as the painters and they're rival wizards" interpretation rather than "painters exist in the writer's book, and they are fighting them just like the lumierans are fighting the painters".
japslop
It would be a different world with different inhabitants. That like saying if someones kid died to just make another one lmao
Why is there a trend of retards in this thread not actually replying when they are being told that they are wrong?
Maelle's ending is the escapist ending, not Verso's. Verso's is the ending about moving on. I don't care which ending you prefer and honestly if I were Maelle with a burnt face, no eye, and no voice, who was blamed for my brother's death, I'd probably pick Maelle's ending to, but that's why it's escapism. You have to respond to this or you look like a retard.
what the fuck was painted verso even thinking when he excused himself and jumped through the portal? did he actually want his family to move on or did he just want to die?
I wanna lick Alicia's burns!
She doesn't need to reabsorb it, she created them, she can create them again, their essence is in her above everything
Anon you have devolved into pure fucking heacanon.
The only thing we know about restoring a painted creature by a painter is that Maelle needed the chroma within the canvas, the specific one, to revive Sciel/Lune.
Your specific theory doesn't even make sense with our logic. If she doesn't need the specific chroma to restore them, then what makes a sense of continuity between the two? They will just be copies.
I didn't forget the part,, i literally mentioned it. Maelle didn't paint them to begin with, to understand what makes them them she needs to work backwards, take the material and figure out from there. Meanwhile Aline literally created them, their chroma wasn't always there, she created them.
Why is Maelle the escapist ending? She is moving on living with the people of Lumiere (who are real btw).
That like saying if someones kid died to just make another one lmao
I mean, yes? What're you gonna do? We only live once, so if your kid died young, you should seize the moment and make another one ASAP.
did he actually want his family to move on or did he just want to die
he just wanted to die (and in turn kill the entire universe he lives in) because his gf died lmao
Honestly, both?
He wants to die sure but if he could be a real boy and see his real family again....I guess he'd care for that too.
he makes the decision to jump through the portal after alicia tells renoir "i'll be back eventually" and he sees she is lying immediately. he sees she has no intention to move forward. when he sees that he acts impulsively and goes to destroy the canvas.
Why is Maelle the escapist ending?
Because she escapes the real world to live in a fantasy dollhouse until she dies being forever 16.
Serious question: are you by any chance autistic?
Ok but what would you do if someone suddenly told you "irl" is actually a fake world and you are killing yourself by remaining here and should have everything be erased? What then fag?
No, when your kid dies you should make a Sims 4 save where you play with your kid forever and play the game untill you die out of dehydration
Except thats not what happened.
There is no real world dumbass, there's just the creator's world and the created world.
Alicia! Alicia! Alicia! <3
You're being retarded on purpose aren't you?
I just explained why Maelle's is the escapist ending. She's living a fake life with fake people to ***escape*** the fact that her brother is dead and that she is burned and that her family blames her for something that does not seem to be her fault - but because we don't know what Writers are it might actually be her fault. In the end, she's even forcing Verso to do things he doesn't even want to be doing.
Why is there a trend of retards in this thread not actually replying when they are being told that they are wrong?
Because it's difficult to admit to yourself that you're wrong
It is. Did you watch both endings?
In Verso's, she goes outside and deals with her trauma. In her ending, she stays in the canvas presumably forever.
>Sits down and does nothing to stop Verso from dissolve everything
Is she stupid?
That's what you get for choosing the bad ending
Based schizo anon trying to gaslight others to match his reality
bad ending
You realize they're both ''bad'' right?
No it is not pure headcanon you dumbfuck.
They didn't use to exist, they literally were painted from her. She's the creator of them, the creation doesn't exist prior to it being created.
You behave as if the lumiere people were just there waiting for someone to come and use their chroma to create them.
Do you think Verso couldn't paint Esquie again in some other canvas??
Nonsense.
then what makes a sense of continuity between the two? They will just be copies.
They WILL just be copies, which btw still probably is truer than however Maelle reconstructed them from the base materials.
Chroma is used however and whatever the creator decides to use it for. That's the entire reason why nevrons exist, because the painted beings of lumiere are made of Aline's Chroma
quite telling that he's a maellefag, kek
He does, he's just shitposting on purpose at this point.
id be fine doing this right now as long as it takes everyone else down with me
bitchy
I don't think that accurately describes her. She is a rules autist who wants do to things by the book.
She's young and naive though so it's understandable. If I lost my brother in a fire that also left me very disfigured I'd probably get lost in the sauce too for a good long white till I realized that I'm not only destroying myself, but my family too. BUT, if Maelle had no parents left, no sister, it was just her and her brother, and she lost her brother, I'd totally understand her just wanting to live out the rest of her life in that fantasy land.
This entire game's discussion is ruined by brainlets that literally cannot fathom that no, the painting is not VR, the outside the canvas world is not "the real world" as if everything inside was fake.
The nuance here is that ultimately neither Verso nor Maelle truly care about the lofty goals they exposit. Verso wants to die, Maelle wants to escape her horrible life as Alicia. Saving the family/ Lumiere are tertiary things to these two.
Instead it's been reduced to "real world vs escapism", absolute bare bones takes. Should we blame the writers for the framing? They sure rushed to end the game after the reveal, without enough existential angst from Lune and Sciel to ground the players.
Even Lune despite being pretty bitchy
If you think Lune is "bitchy" then you have never really interacted with people irl, and definitely not women.
Lel good picture, I was going to reply to the guy that he cares more about the shadows than the object that casts them, then I saw you post this picture.
play the game redditfag
Instead it's been reduced to "real world vs escapism"
Only brainlet versofags think this
They WILL just be copies, which btw still probably is truer than however Maelle reconstructed them from the base materials.
Ah, retarded scifi fag reveals himself at last. Buddy in fantasy stories when god yanks a soul and puts in back together in a body, that's a real resurrection.
Go back to watching black mirror.
Maelle wants to escape her horrible life as Alicia
Right, and you're the guy who understands how the story works, you're not a brainlet.
Alicia is not a paintress who can't just go into any other canvas yeah.
Based anon, sadly this board is full of midwits
"I'm smarter than everyone else" + reddit spacing
Should we blame the writers for the framing?
You can lead a horse to water, you can't make it drink.
491th post best post
Not that hard when versofags have such low IQ and have no media literacy
Both endings are valid, they'll never canonize either of them, so I really don't get these arguments.
I picked Maelle because I didn't want to destroy the canvas, that's literally the only reason (well that, and Maelle looks way cuter and happier than the IRL Alicia).
Verso's ending felt like the 4th ending in Nier where you wipe your save file, it's a different vibe and not for me, so I didn't even watch it on YT
Holy fuck you imbecile. The people in lumiere didn't have chroma prior to Aline using her Chroma to create them, only then it becomes their chroma, because it was the chroma used to create them
You absolute fucking retard
No argument
Concession accepted, spic.
Versocucks on suicide watch
media literacy
reddit alert
media literacy
Sorry redditor but you're not one of us
tfw all other anons ITT will die the moment i close the tab
Not like this bros...
o murdered his expedition
Retard it wasnt real.
don't genocide us anon
the paris world is fake too you retards. Its a creation of "the writers"
Why are autistic scifi fags even playing a fantasy turn based RPG ahahahaha
Anon you are slowly killing yourself, you have to stop posting and leave the thread!
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Renoir is canonically ripped
He has a part of versos soul so he is more real than the rest but less than aline, alicia, and renoir. Did you ever watch the cutscenes?
lumiere people are fully conscious
No they arent though retard anon. Thats the point. Are the npcs in your saved file real people too?
Clea didn't show up in last second to slap everyone
Just chill out, take a step back and deep breath. Everything could've been solved.
Maelle is too weak to support painting. Figment of verso's soul (kid) is tired and wants to stop anyway.
Just strip Clea naked, allow us all finally to move on from this game, like Verso wanted
a different retard trying to argue with me
It's clear that the reddit poster only looked at the most current conversation and had his Dunning-Kruger fit. The current dilemma is caused by some retarded who falsely said that (paraphrasing) "Verso's ending is the escapist ending", when, if either of the endings are "escapist", then it's absolutely Maelle's ending.
I feel like I'm going to have to avoid all threads about this game very soon, because people like you make it seem like it has already devolved to pure, unadulterated, raw and unfiltered, blatant shitposting, with no semblance of any actual discussion points. For whatever reason, this game has now reached the point where there are shitposters shitposting it, but now there are also shitposters trying to actually talk about the game, when the fact of the matter is that the shitposters "trying to talk about the game" might just be the same shitposters who have never played the game, but by this point they've engrossed themselves in enough threads that they can repeat things that they believe "rustled some jimmies" in previous threads, and this is how they shitpost now, which is much more nefarious than saying "this game sucks, I know because I watched a streamer play it for 20 minutes".
Verso wants to die
Saving the family/ Lumiere are tertiary things to these two.
Other way around. He had many chances to get erased in Act 2 and Act 3. Instead he always put saving his mother before his own death wish.
The fact that they made Renoir wear a swimsuit if your entire party wears one is sovl overdrive.
that matter are the Aristocrat Gods of reality and everyone else is just fodder.
kek because it is. Theyre not conscious. Lune and Sciel get rezz'd and arent fazed by that at all. Theyre not humans.
I appreciate your candor, and there is nothing wrong with that. That's human.
No argument
Indeed, if you had any you would have replied earlier
We are not in disagreement about this you fuckwit. I disagree with your retarded copy bullshit. There are no instances of resurrection= copy, and this is in a story where someone in the party (Verso) kvetches about being a copy of someone else all the time. This is a story that made sure to differentiate that Alicia doesn't really restore dead expeditioners, but instead builds a revenant army out of them. It would've been addressed.
But you're stuck in your sci fi nonsense with analogies about code and data. The idea that Aline can "restore" these people, the real people, in a different canvas is unsuported by any in story mechanic. But sure she can just make copies of them infinitely, that is an in story established ability. It's just not the same and so useless for this discussion.
Lmao stay mad bitch
Anon Babble's Official Expedition 33 best girl ranking
1. Clea
2. Golgra
3. Sophie
4. Sciel
5. Lune
6. Emma
7. Sirene
8. Danseuse Teacher
9. Painted Alicia
10. Aline
99999. Maelle
He has a part of versos soul
No he doesn't.
Don't worry, the people in your tab show way less humanity than the people of Lumiere did.
engineers created humans
aahhhhhh humans arent real anymore all humans are fake!!!
Why does Clea have a man face?
Oh anon, the last thing Verso begs for is death. Not "please Alicia listen leave" it's "please kill me plsplspls".
You are simply unable to face that he is a man with a suicide wish trying to drag his entire universe down.
Why maelle faggots are desperately trying to gaslight anyone who doesn't agree with them?
No point in articulating my points and regurgitating my material to a subhuman ape ad nauseam. Maelle did nothing wrong and you will continue to seethe. Time for your piano lessons.
The best part about Maelle's ending is seeing him again
All of these deaths are on Aline primarily and Alicia's hand.
If they were not addicts all the suffering wouldn't exist.
Not the same thing as the Engineers exist in the same world as humans.
play the piano depressed faggot
Sciel above Lune
Absolutely not. Sciel is barely a character. You could remove her from the game completely and nothing would change. She also has a dead husband she still loves, so from the romance angle she's used goods. And combat-wise, she's a buffslut in a game that does not really need anyone to be buffslutting, and standing on her own as a damage dealer leaves a lot to be desired. No redeeming qualities.
Why didn't they just make him permanently playable in newgame+
This, but pianofags.
esquie doesn't have the 33 headband
Unpaint this
I completely forgot he wanted to shoot himself. That was stupid.
man with a suicide wish trying to drag his entire universe down.
There is nothing wrong with this. Once (You) have made the decision that you want to die it makes everyone else on the planet expendable. Theres no real point to other people existing if (You) are dead.
Either larping as Maelle or shitposting. Really hard to tell which one.
Because he lost. He failed to do the thin he thinks will save his mother and now he hopes that he'll at least die. If he truly wanted to die above all else he could have tricked Maelle in Act 2 into killing him. He could have asked Renoire at the beginning of Act 3 to do it. Him helping the group in Act 3 accomplishes nothing if all he wants is death.
Sciel is barely a character.
Imagine believing this
it has to be a cope.
It is a cope. If everything in the painting is fake then Verso (himself apparently a glorified chatbot) heroically pushes Alicia back into the real world and ends a conflict.
If it's not than Verso selfishly dooms an entire universe of sentient beings for his own comfort, because he cannot stomach his life as a source of grief for the Painter family.
Ok, still not playing your tranny hrt slop haha
saucy still hasn't killed himself
huh, waddayaknow
Why? He thought he was the only survivor and that everyone, including Maelle, had died
"RUN"
shakes his head
runs into someone 100x more stronger than him to protect his people
Alicia couldn't initially, she had to practice, aka it doesn't work magically, there is a skill to it, if there is a skill to it then it works in some technical way.
Also there is no difference between resurrection and reconstruction.
If i were to die today, and in 1000 years some retard found my dna code and reconstructed it, it would be being also resurrected. It would be a copy of me and me myself, there is no difference.
If i were to gain superpower right now, and i could duplicate myself, each and every duplication would be me and a copy of me, there is no difference.
This is a story that made sure to differentiate that Alicia doesn't really restore dead expeditioners
Yes she says why, it's because their chroma isn't pure, therefore the code is corrupted, she cannot reproduce them from the Chroma. Aline however could just paint them again.
Imagine believing this
Compare Sciel's """character development" or even just her lines of dialogue to that of Maelle, Gustave, Verso, Lune - hell, even Esquie or Monoco. Sciel is the least developed main character in the entire game.
No point in articulating my points and regurgitating my material to a subhuman ape ad nauseam.
You sound pretty mad for someone who's not seething though, you need to realize that the little underaged french girl you like doesn't exist
d Maelle looks way cuter and happier than the IRL Alicia).
Drug addicts do seem happier stoned yeah you observed that right.
her voice is so hot, bros
it makes everyone else on the planet expendable
literally how bpd women think
Absolutely seething
Jesus Versofags are running on pure fucking heacanon.
See, if Alicia was a decent human being she would have let him die.
He wasn't dying though, he was being reabsorbed back into the canvas (his petals were going there). Which is why you need to pay attention to what Verso is fucking saying:
Only you can do this Alicia. Please, unpaint me.
Maelle does not resurrect Verso, she does not save him, she never lets him die. And slaps the bandaid solution of "w-well maybe you're just suicidal cause you never got to be old" and lets him age.
There is plenty fucked up shit in what Maelle does without headcanon.
Engineers and humans share the same dna in the same world
the picture i drew of a stickman on my paper has the same rights as me
LOL LMAO
Yes
let verso die
He wasn't dying. He was getting yoinked back into his own reality. Which is why he begs her to KILL him.
That's what Maelle doesn't do: she doesn't euthanize him. She never saved him from dying.
Anon, you should be upset that your favorite character was barely developed. You shouldn't be trying to falsely claim that she was when she was not.
man face
Versosissies .. not like this...
Another Versofag absolutely destroyed by "cogito ergo sum", jfc.
Minutes earlier he woke up in somewhat safe place. Why would he assume immediately nobody else made it? He saw only most of group instagibbed, not everyone. He even sees another expeditioner, albeit dead. Perhaps someone else was transported and made it. He should continue until at least confirms all bodies.
She never saved him from dying.
In the ending, dumbass. Were you just trying to be a contrarian?
He should continue until at least confirms all bodies.
yeah but shocked and panicked people arent 100% rational in the moment of panic.
Most brainlets didn't realize that both endings are nuanced. They are not good nor bad, but they're picking sides like apemens over them
Were you just trying to be a contrarian?
yes
Never interacted with a real woman award
No, you're just a retarded fag who doesn't know the definition of a human.
Definition of a Human (Homo sapiens)
A human is a carbon-based, eukaryotic, multicellular organism belonging to the species Homo sapiens, within the kingdom Animalia, class Mammalia, and order Primates.
Chemical Composition:
Carbon-based life form: Like all known life on Earth, humans are primarily made of carbon atoms, which form the backbone of complex organic molecules.
Major elements (by mass):
Oxygen (~65%) – mostly in water and organic molecules
Carbon (~18%) – forms the framework of organic molecules
Hydrogen (~10%) – part of water and all organic molecules
Nitrogen (~3%) – critical for amino acids and nucleic acids
Calcium, phosphorus, potassium, sulfur, sodium, chlorine, magnesium, and trace elements support various biochemical functions
Cellular Structure:
Eukaryotic cells: With membrane-bound organelles, including:
Nucleus: Contains DNA organized into 23 pairs of chromosomes (diploid set = 46 chromosomes)
Mitochondria: Sites of cellular respiration and ATP production
Other organelles: Endoplasmic reticulum, Golgi apparatus, lysosomes, etc.
Genetic Material:
DNA made of four nucleotide bases (A, T, C, G) encodes the human genome (~3.2 billion base pairs)
Humans share ~98.8% of their DNA with chimpanzees
Genome codes for ~20,000–25,000 protein-coding genes
Physiological Systems:
Eleven major systems: nervous, circulatory, respiratory, digestive, musculoskeletal, endocrine, immune, integumentary (skin), excretory, reproductive, and lymphatic
Maintains homeostasis through feedback mechanisms
Reproduction & Development:
Sexual reproduction with internal fertilization
Offspring develop from a fertilized egg (zygote) through embryonic stages
Humans are viviparous: offspring develop inside the mother and are born live
That's just untrue
They have loyalty towards the REAL VERSO not the PAINTED VERSO(PLAYABLE CHARACTER)
Even then Monoco asks if he is like this because REAL Verso made him that way or his own desire.
*Tips fedora*
He could have asked Renoire at the beginning of Act 3 to do it
But he did. He was like "oh yeah I'm getting gommaged' until Alicia acted too fast for him and undid it/yoinked him away.
Once he got to actually compose a plan he was right back to "kill myself".
Fair enough. I guess I was pretty jaded at events after gommage, beach landing and then they try to do that.
If i were to die today, and in 1000 years some retard found my dna code and reconstructed it, it would be being also resurrected. It would be a copy of me and me myself, there is no difference.
Oh my god , Scififag.
Stop with the fucking DNA and code. Jesus you're so fucking stupid, is this your first fantasy game?
Quick question, when Jesus resurrected Lazarus, did he "make a copy of his DNA" you dumb fucking retard?
Wrong. I did a Biology degree where 90% of my class was women so I was around way more women than men.
it's not magic because it involves skill and rules
Yikes. Like 99% of magic across all fiction?
It would be a copy of me and me myself, there is no difference.
kek no it wouldnt. A clone has its own rationality. You would be dead and the clone would just physically look like you.
Based and redpilled.
Maellefags still think paint and pixels are real though.
We must protect the poor """""underage""""""""" painted """"""""""girl"""""""""""
But he did.
He didn't. Renoire just does it without his input. If he wanted to die then DON'T follow the girl lightly pulling you along. Stay with the dude who will give you your wish.
Once he got to actually compose a plan
What plan? Helping Alicia (who does not want him to die) to beat Renoire (the one who can kill him) and then hope that by some miracle some deus ex machina portal opens up? Do you actually believe that?
If i were to die today, and in 1000 years some retard found my dna code and reconstructed it, it would be being also resurrected. It would be a copy of me and me myself, there is no difference.
I refuse to believe this is anything but trolling at this point rofl
You can ask Jesus how he did it specifically. It matters not.
What matters in this context is that Aline used her chrome to create all the painted beings of lumiere
Therefore: Painted being of lumiere are created by a specific painter, who used her chroma to paint them
That specific painter, is still alive. Therefore that specific painter can yet again use her chrome to create the painted beings.
The end. There is nothing else to talk. You can continue pretending to be retarded all you want. It doesn't matter.
Helping Alicia (who does not want him to die) to beat Renoire (the one who can kill him) and then hope that by some miracle some deus ex machina portal opens up? Do you actually believe that?
I mean clearly he wasn't thinking this through at any point. He was helping Alicia out of inertia. He wouldn't be helping her if his real goal was to get her out of the painting either, non? At no point did Alicia say "we will kick him out then I leave" to Verso so him acting like it was some great lie that changed his mind is also nonsensical.
No, you're just fucking stupid. Unironically.
A human is his DNA, replicate the dna and you replicated the human.
The end. There is nothing else to talk. You can continue pretending to be retarded all you want. It doesn't matter.
Yeah that's how debates work, you declare yourself the winner. That is the ultimate concession though, so thanks.
Now just remember your interpretation is retarded and we're all good.
who would've played the piano ?
He wouldn't be helping her if his real goal was to get her out of the painting either, non?
His goal is to save his mother. Which he accomplished. He has no idea about what's actually going on outside.
That...is what a clone is.
I'm not even that guy, I'm just wondering: are you ok? You don't know what clones or copies are?
wants to die
almost there
just a second
"Follow me on another magical adventure Verso"
okay
Just stop twisting and turning his character.
No, it's just when one is presented with basic facts but won't acknowledge it, then there is nothing to talk, for a simple reason that wasting time on those who do not want to see things for how they are is unproductive.
No you didnt lol. You replicate the physical part but not your thoughts, rationality etc. If you die you wont suddenly reawake in 1000 years if someone made a clone of you. It will just be a human who has your outside shape but none of your memories nor even you.
No.
According to your ending he is real.
According to our ending he is not.
The ones torturing people are Maellefaggots.
And what's the difference between a clone and you?
Your thoughts and rationality are in constant state of change, and not how you are defined. You are your DNA.
Versofags lost
Anon do you just not understand that he was too stunlocked to act? You can see Maelle has to drag him along as he's contemplating.
The scar I have on my forehead. Also the other scar I'm not telling you about and now you can't just replicate it on the clone.
RIP versocucks
Maelle won
That scar you are can be fixed by other means though as technology progresses, irrelevant. A burn victim isn't defined by the burnt parts.
And what's the difference between a clone and you?
Your conscience dummy. To begin with there is no real "clone" that inherits memory, that's a fictional thing. But let's say it was.
The moment it lives, the moment it was in a separate circumstance from you for even 1 second, it has become its own separate being. Not wholly unique but the way it experiences stimuli from here on our is different from you no matter what, making it increasingly more of a unique being the more its alive.