Devil May Cry

DMC V ends with Dante and Vergil being stuck in hell for all eternity

Next time they show up again is in an anime gacha game

What is Capcom implying here?

youtube.com/watch?v=05cNz167p78
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The fuck? I thought this guy wasn't allowed to play Dante anymore cause he said shit about the chink flu or something.

You thought wrong

Resetera trannies tried to get him canceled but they forgot he mastered Royal guard

We're never gonna get DMC 6 are we?

I wanna do a reboot-reboot

they can leave anytime they want

What is Capcom implying here?

"we don't give a shit"

same thing they were telling you when they murdered the IP with "Peak of combat" and Devil may poo in the loo netflix edition.

Who'd even make 6? Itsuno left Capcom with the bill after they finally let him make Dragon's Dogma 2 and Kamiya's a fucking hack as shown with the Bayonetta series.

Itsuno did everything he wanted with Devil May Cry. That's why he was comfortable with very quickly leaving the company after DD2 (his actual passion project) flopped. DMC6 never would have happened with Itsuno.

Do I really need a mod to make this game not look completely washed out and desaturated? Or is there a magical brightness option that fixes everything?

According to Reuben Langdon, Hideaki Itsuno wanted to leave Capcom after DmC: Devil May Cry, stating that he was not happy and was ready to put in his resignation, however, Capcom didn't want him to leave and asked Itsuno what would make him stay in the company. Langdon stated that Itsuno had a "wishlist", and Devil May Cry was at the top of it, Itsuno also stated in an interview that at one point he thought about making a new Dragon's Dogma game instead of a "Devil May Cry 5", which could potentially be linked to this whole situation. In the words of Langdon, Itsuno told Capcom that he'd stay if they let him do a Devil May Cry game the way he wanted to do it.

Itsuno told Capcom that he'd stay if they let him do a Devil May Cry game the way he wanted to do it.

Gets that

DD2

Gets budget cut (again) and the game rushed out incomplete

Itsuno fucks off

nice job, capcom allergic to quality as ever.

Ironic considering PGR is chinese. what strings did they pull?

The good news is DMC is more popular than ever now. It's not a question of if we're getting a DMC6, it's question of how we're getting it, who's doing it, when can certain things happen etc.

Originally, people in these positions would pick a successor before leaving. This seems to happen less and less these days, though.

There was never any risk of him getting kicked off of Dante. Capcom couldn't care less about Reuben's talk about the jab and aliens.
He was no longer voicing Ken, but he only did Ken in SFV, and everyone got recast in SF6.
He was overlooked for the Netflix show because he's not in the SAG Union (he said no way fag anyway).

I don't even think Dante was meant to be seen as sad in 2. Kamiya wasn't there to make sure Dante's personality was portrayed correctly, so whoever did the writing probably decided to go with a more aloof and stoic type of cool. The depression angle only comes in when to try to reconcile that with the more energetic and playful portrayal we see in later games.

he only did Ken in SF6

He started in SF4 and played him in everything up to 6, including SFxT and Smash Ultimate.
There were also a few VAs that were able to survive the SF6 purge, including Ryu's VA. Reuben should've been safe with his huge Capcom background, but Ono is a cunt, and I'm glad he's gone.

remake dmc 2 first, that’s the main priority.

What does Ono have to do with SF6?

fym too much work? dmc 2 is a steaming pile of shit worthy of a remake, who cares if it’s gameplay is entirely revamped.

He's retarded, a DMC2 remake would be the definition of what a remake should be - turning an objectively bad game into a much better one.

You guys are way too idealistic. No company remakes bad games. They wouldn't sell.

Playing reboot DE rn
Vorgil is more fun to play than Donte despite having only 1 weapon
Wish his levels were not this bad

90% of the levels consist of fucking floating platforms

it is good that you can instakill annoying enemies like chainsaw guys and giant rats that way

but it also means that you will fall/teleport out of arena like a complete retard

guess that's the reason why there is no teleporting bdsm swordsmen from main campaign

aerial enemy targeting is completely fucked.

just release mechanic on judgement cut and angel/demon ground launchers

said just release launchers can launch big enemies and turn off enrage/devil trigger of every enemy

hollow Vergil is giga trash even on dmd

for some reason imprisoner ai breaks if you launch it near other enemies

Unironically I wish you could play Vorgil in Donte campaign instead

No company remakes bad games

A smart one would if they wanted easy money by remake a bad game from an otherwise great series. Turning something bad good is exactly how good business is supposed to work.

No. A smart company would take an already established, popular game and remake it. No "smart" company is going to take a risk by remaking a poorly received game with a bad reputation. That's just not how business works.

this. the RE Engine was a mistake for everything but Resident Evil (small to medium-sized, poorly lit, predominantly indoor environments, full of monsters). it's reduced all their games to visually homogenous slop.

why the hell didn't they get these guys to make Peak of Combat? This one actually looks like it plays like a proper videogame

same thing they're implying by doing a collab with Overwatch that exclusively features 10+ year old characters instead of literally any Slop Flopper 6 characters. playing to their strengths (nostalgia baiting their cult).

According to Langdon he lost the Ken role because he had came out in defense of some other voice actor that got metoo'd, and Ono got scared of Reuben's name being associated with some sort of drama.
He was involved in the very early stages until he got fired. He was already on thin ice at that point and I guess they weren't too pleased with what he was proposing for the game.

DMC V ends with Dante and Vergil being stuck in hell for all eternity

DMC 2 ends that way too, lmao.

Hell

secure

He was involved in the very early stages until he got fired.

No he wasn't. The only source for that is Dusk Golem, a proven liar.

No "smart" company is going to take a risk

what fucking risk is involved in remaking DMC2? They could change literally everything and NO ONE would complain. Anything they decide would be a straight upgrade.

No "smart" company is going to take a risk

that's what makes them not smart. It proves:

Lack of confidence

Fear of improvement

Obsessive worship of trends

Games were great when they were designed to convince a player it's a good game. Quality dropped when it stopped attempting this.

what fucking risk is involved in remaking DMC2?

It's DMC2. The game almost everyone knows as one of the worst games of all time. Do you really think that Capcom would choose to remake that game instead of any of the other, far better received, mainline DMC games? You know, the ones that would actually make them money pretty much guaranteed?

You're not even human. You have some sort of cognition issue, you're not capable of understanding what's being discussed here.

youtu.be/4m0Tx6SvGXY?si=K-G0Lelp6nrs27Lc&t=1h08m

You have some sort of cognition issue

Ironic for you to say. If you really think that any company would actually choose to remake bad games, then you are either incredibly naive or outright retarded.

Trish owes me sex

I want a game adaptation of the anime where it's just Dante doing cozy little gigs around town and eating icecream with Patty

When has a company ever remade a notoriously bad game?

That's why I said they SHOULD remake bad games into good ones. Why are you faggots having such a hard time with this? Does anyone speak english here?

I feel like you're overlooking the fact that, because DMC 2 is universally panned, all of that game's promising ideas would be new to an audience who never played it because of its reputation. This also means Capcom would have the most creative freedom remaking DMC 2 because nobody is gonna complain about alterations.

All that said though, I don't want dick from Capcom anymore until they start diversifying their art style again. I have default RE Engine asset fatigue.

I'm pretty sure you're discussing with jeets or seaniggas, no other explanation

I have default RE Engine asset fatigue.

It really is pretty ugly, and I'm not a fan of face scanning.

I'm inclined to agree. I didn't mind a little facescanning at first, but they've gone a bit overboard with it. It's been especially hard on Street Fighter because they bodyscanned a bunch of leather-tanned """professional bodybuilders""" who look nuts, instead of models with sculpted physiques. So characters like Akuma came out looking insanely goofy.

Here's a pitch for a DMC reboot that takes concepts from DmC but does them better

Dante is half-demon. Sparda + Eva, along with Vergil and whatnot.

Eva is murdered by demons, Vergil goes missing at the same time, Dante and Sparda are in this shit together

Kind of a Vampire the Masquerade deal in that there's an entire underground network of all kinds of supernatural beings and factions, but they're primarily divided between light and dark. There's all kinds of shit. Ghosts, vampires, merfolk, etc.

Angels are usually pretty peaceful and don't intervene but there are zealots who want to purge the dark from the world. Not without reason, 99% of Demons are the purest of fucking evil, and only Sparda and a miniscule fraction are redeemable/good.

Dante is hunted by a good chunk of factions for all manner of reasons. Sparda protects him for years with both his connections to the less hostile factions and sheer might

Play as Sparda in the prologue mission, but he's killed by an abnormally powerful angel

Dante goes on quest to find specific angel and avenge Sparda while piecing the puzzle of why all this shit is happening together. But more importantly he's just trying to find a place he belongs.

It's weird but hey

Let's assume we got a Sparda prequel.
What would it play like?
youtube.com/watch?v=fNVG33VL8U4

not in a million years

Sparda would be a classy combination of Vergil's stoicism and Dante's cheesy one liners.

Simon Templeton voice?

Yeah I was thinking something just like that.

pic related, goofy roidgut Akuma

comfy trips

You keep making arguments that it would be "easy money", when that is simply not the fact. First, you are fighting against a bad reputation of a hated game, instead of coasting on the good reputation of a lived game. Second, your pretty much going to have to a do a complete overhaul of the gameplay and probably the story too, at which point you might as well be making a new game. There's really nothing worthwhile about DMC2's gameplay to where you could just take it, slap a few improvements on it, and sell it for full price. You're going to have to add a bunch of new weapons (with actual unique move lists) and styles, since that is the bare minimum people expect from the series at this point. And why do all that work in service of a story that has no real relevance to the series as a whole. You're better off just making a whole new game. Just rehash the environment and bring back Lucia of that's what you want to see so bad.

Had this fucking brilliant idea that's effectively if DMC was Fear and Hunger levels of unfair

I'd picture leaning into the grandiose tone.
To set it apart as a spinoff, maybe not have DT as a game mechanic and replace it with something else and instead make Sparda only DT for boss fights where periodically they take you into Asura's Wrath-style cutscene segments just to show how cool Sparda is. It'd kinda be in-line with how the Devil Sword Sparda DT was done in the DMC1 Mundus fight except make it something that you expect out of the game instead of it being stapled onto one segment of one boss right at the end.

all of that game's promising ideas would be new to an audience who never played it because of its reputation

Almost all of DMC2's ideas are already present in DMC3 through DMC5, so very little would be new to them, unless they've never played any DMC before.
Regardless, these people wouldn't do a 180 on their opinion even if they did remake the game.

This also means Capcom would have the most creative freedom remaking DMC 2 because nobody is gonna complain about alterations.

At that point, they would be better off making a completely new game. That would be significantly smarter for them to do as a business. A new game wouldn't be associated with an older one that already has a terrible reputation from the start.

when that is simply not the fact.

It is, you're just retarded and everything you said is nonsense.
Look at this:

There's really nothing worthwhile about DMC2's gameplay

That's why a REMAKE (NOT A REMASTER) would improve it.
This information is not getting into your brain. You have a deficiency.

the remake isn't supposed to make you do a 180° on the original, bad game? lol?

At that point, they would be better off making a completely new game.

Or they can make a DMC2 that's actually fun to play. I'm pretty sure a lot of people would enjoy playing as an improved Lucia and using this DT. The various swords could have much improved variety, the levels could be expanded/changed, bosses could be way more intuitive (looking at you, helicopter).

The issue with this eastern European mindset is that the number of resources to make 2 from the ground up into a good game would be similar to making 6 and that would inarguably be a better use of time than remaking 2.

The issue with this eastern European mindset is that the number of resources to make 2 from the ground up into a good game would be similar to making 6

ok.

and that would inarguably be a better use of time than remaking 2.

Why? The fact Capcom would be making DMC2 to be not total shit alone would be all the marketing they need over a completely new game.

Oh no. The series about Sparda and his sons is about SPARDAS SONS

It's not about sparda's sons, evidently it's about Vergil.

Why would both of them be "stuck" in the demon realm when yamato can just open portals anywhere?

There aren't hordes of people out there saying, “DMC2 had a plethora of great concepts and ideas that were never adapted to any other game in the series, and it just needed a touch up to be a great game, it was almost there.” There are hordes of people saying that, at best, it's incredibly dull and, at worst, one of Capcom's worst games. The audience clamoring for a 2 remake isn't there, they wouldn't be appealing to anyone by doing so. If anything, they would cause people to say, “Why aren't we getting DMC6? Who asked for this?” and there wouldn't be a proper answer to either of those questions.

Its about Dante AND Vergil.
It just happens that Vergil keeps making messes that Dante comes to clean up

Or they can make a DMC2 that's actually fun to play.

If they didn't want to make money, I guess they could. That's not how business works, though. We don't live in some kind of fantasy world where companies remake games to "improve" them and "make them fun to play". Remakes exist to make money; easy money. A DMC2 remake wouldn't make money. You really are naive if you can't understand this simple fact.

You have a weird fascination with avoiding good ideas because of a fear of losing money. Are you a shareholder? You're about as intelligent as one.

I'd love to hear a good idea if you have one.

making DMC2 to be not total shit alone would be all the marketing they need

I think you're over estimating the demand for a "fixed DMC2". It's not like the plot is super important to the series lore, and people are missing out on it because the gameplay is too hard to tolerate. You could remove the game from history and no one would really think of it other than the fact that the series numbering is off and they don't know where Dante's costume from SMT3 came from.

Nice

You are the least imaginative person on the planet. You're like a black hole.

i hate that there's a nigga like this in every meeting where someone's trying to pitch a game i'd like.

kek

Wanting a remake of a game is the most bland and corporate take ever, do you know how saturated the market is with them? If anyone is lacking imagination, it's you.

remaking a previously existing game takes more imagination than making a brand new one from scratch

avoiding good ideas

Anon, listen. I'm sorry to break it to you, but in the business world, an idea that doesn't make money isn't considered a "good" idea. I hope you're underage or something, otherwise this is just embarrassing.

The business world has lead to dogshit modern videogames and you idolize that to the point of coming to an anonymous imageboard to get upset about a bunch of people imagining a DMC2 remake where the game is actually good.
Take a step back and look at yourself and what you're doing. Gain some perspective.

I'll always remember that time Capcom tried to sell DMC 2 on it's own for the Switch because they wanted to piecemeal the PS2 trilogy one at a time instead of just dropping the HD collection again and the only positive thing they could say about the game in it's advertising was that Dante wears a cool jacket in it.

You keep talking about how it would be easy money and easily marketable, when it's simply not the fact. Just admit that you're a turbo autist that needs a "good version" of 2 to exist (even if it's nothing but superficial connections to the original) instead of just moving on from a past fuck-up and being glad that it didn't kill the series.
I can understand if it was a game that had a lot of great plans and potential that wasn't realized due to time or budget or whatever. But the game really didn't have a lot of good stuff going for it from the get-go.

I don't idolize it at all. I'm not any happier about it than you are. Still, I'm not going to ignore reality and start living in some fantasy world like you, either. I find that pathetic in its own way.

How the fuck does DMC2's directional shit work on a keyboard

kek, i read this with a straight face and only realised what you meant when I got to the last word, then literally laughed out loud.

Next time they show up

Retard, Itsuno is gone, no more DMC for you.

capcom is entering a new crapcom era
god the new mh sucks shit
itsuno is gone after he shit the bed with dd2 so dmc6 never ever

kamiya is back so there is a chance!

L O FUCKING L
okami 2 will be rex engine soulless shit and he will probably remake dmc 1 because fuck you

That gacha games are hell
Reuben is so based that even the Chinese have a blind eye to his comments. That or the Chinese came to the conclusion that "oh shit, Dante's main voice actor is a selling point". Money talks.
Also when the fuck are awe getting DMC 6? I WANT GOTHIC HELL AND CASINO LEVELS.

new onimusha looks like every other re engine game

I hope the combat is good at least

Man I really like the look of Sparda in DMC5 with it being all living flesh based, it's a shame we'll never see it again.

I wish the sparda in 5 gave Dante Trish’s moveset from 4SE or a modified DMC 1 moveset. Both sparda and rebellion felt very gimped in 5(especially without drive)

I was just replaying the OG for the first time in a while. Did the remaster drop the difficulty? I don't remember it being this easy to shoot things to death.

Which difficulty?
Pistols are pretty good in 1. Especially with charge shot. Shot gun takes out sins pretty easy. And grenade launcher builds up DT quickly.

I feel like Trish should have Alastor now.
Or Nevan

I want Trish to take the DMC3 Dante approach and have the ability to choose between two different weapons and guns. Which weapons and guns? I don't particularly care I just want more Trish.

Give her a whip and let her keep her fist moveset from 4SE.