When did gamers get so jaded

back then you could argue that skyrim was indeed an upgrade to oblivion so people had a reason to look foward to it
nowadays all games are either just straight up shit or don't compare to what came previously so there's literally no point in playing them, plus the extra jewish stuff on top like microtransactions being standard on AAA games just helps make everything worse

why should I care about fluffy "mechanics" i won't even notice eventually over the quality of the gameplay?

skyrim/oblivion are shit because the combat is just Hold S + spam M1.

Fact is that the narrative that Skyrim is a bad game is one you'll mostly find only on Anon Babble. Everywhere else in the world it's considered an all time masterpiece

It's a fine game, I personally It's a step down from Oblivion, but then I also think Oblivion was a step up from Morrowind.

we were cringing at those normies then too

Morrowind can only surpass Oblivion when expanded through TR

It's a fine game

With how deep the combat is?
No.

back when only nerds played vidya

hmm really makes u think

skyrim is an ocean with the dept of a puddle

pretty much every game i talk to says they wish skyrim wasnt so dumbed down

The combat in ES is serviceable enough. They're more about the totality of the experience of getting lost exploring the world. You can say that I'm coping when I say this, but if this elusive quality was so easy to capture there wouldn't be a single other game from a non Bethesda developer in existence to capture it (New Vegas).

Once more for the retards
Unmodded TES games in order of greatness:
Morrowind
Skyrim
Oblivion
Daggerfall
Arena
Modded TES games in order of greatness:
Skyrim
Morrowind
Oblivion
Daggerfall
Arena

dark souls is an ocean with the dept of a puddle

FTFY

Ye I'm not a fan of streamlined it was. In fact when it came out one of the first thing I was always complaining about to friends was that you couldn't pick a class. So by the time you actually start feeling like what you want to play you're 10 hours in. Still, I think it's a good game

If you're implying NV has good exploration then you would be wrong. Vanilla WoW on the otherhand fits that description to the letter.

are you mentally ill?

Can you actually say why it’s good? It has less features than the previous game? Worse writing and world building, and the story is extremely shallow.

NV has good environmental story telling

/thread

It terms of game feel it's an improvement. Morrowind plays like shit, and while I have no issues with Oblivion, it does feel like you're character always sliding on oil. The exploration is also better. I think going spelunking in a dwemer ruin and ending up in the underdark scratches the adventure itch better than anything in 3 & 4. Except for stuff like that one dungeon in 4 where there's a huge dark chasm and and you suddenly exit out to a plain of Oblivion. I forget the name of it.

Gamers were excited when games were good and innovation was made
I think the closest thing we got to this was Elden Ring, but even then its essentially just open world dark souls

They were excited how much better it looked than Oblivion.

Based and true
Fuck Daggertards

Based

Skyrim>Oblivion>Morrowind>Daggershite
I still think VI is going to be shit though

twitter got bigger and more retards could engagement bait

Considering how much "You see that mountain? You can climb it" got dunked on over the years, this was a direct contributor to making gamers jaded

When did gamers get so jaded

When they turned 30 and got OLD

It terms of game feel

this is what im talking about. 90% of the love for skyrim is just walking simulator fags "feeling" good about the game because it has nice music in the background. Jeremy soul is like the lead singer of a rock band named The elder scrolls. Everyone loves the tunes and they cant pinpoint why, its the voice, and the exec got rid of him because a woman complained LOL.

The exploration is also better

nothing beatst he hand placed loot in Morrowind. Back when you could find thousands upon thousands o gold in a hidden vault. Devs moved away from you finding anything too good in the later games because they some spastic retards will look up where to get all the best stuff an ruin the game for themselves

This. I wish I had saved that screenshot of someone saying YouTube ruined video games for him with Crowbcat as the thumbnail.

I still don’t understand why Skyrim is considered a masterpiece

Always were
Skyrim was dogshit even by 2011 standards. It is still bizarre to me how did this piece of crap generate such hype back then

I member most of Anon Babble disliking Skyrim back then.

Fact is that the narrative that Skyrim is a bad game is one you'll mostly find only on Anon Babble.

Exactly, it's literally a echo chamber for retarded contrarians

This It feels like most people only play these games vanilla the way they talk about them online. Crazy considering modlists became popular.

>back when only nerds played vidya

2011

Lmao, zoomer spotted.

Contrarian faggot

having standards = being contrarian

Ok retard

I still play this game op and you can't stop me. gonna go kiss shahvee right now with amazing follower tweaks

during the halo 2 e3 demo people were literally jacking off in the audience

consuming shit for 14 years

Impressive

You weren't even here back then

Actually people were spamming Lydia is my waifu like crazy on release day. Fallout 4 was being VIOLENTLY shit on by Anon Babble on release.

people that paid money to attend a stupid event try to justify their expense

OP you're a dumb ass.

I didn't play it on launch. I got it on pc and then I decided I enjoy shouting people off of cliffs and occasionally doing shit like force feeding people potions to make them kill everyone they see till they get killed by guards

I don't even like Lydia but she gets handed to you so fucking quick that everyone can't help but know who she is my thane

The internet made gamers jaded. Plain and simple

Based anon making faggots seethe

Lies I've been here all summer.

I still find the little thing they did with absorbing the dragon soul to be disingenuous

Fallout 4 was being VIOLENTLY shit on by Anon Babble on release

Nope that was New Vegas trannies exclusively

I don't because another nigga does it too

Skyrimbabs are still seething 10+ years later

You love to see it.

Fromdrone projecting

Kek you shits are so incredibly fragile

I'm gonna marry shavari next run and force her to kill all thalmor after giving her the wabbajack

Wow look at that
a bot designed to cause conflict
just like ai will be trained to do 20 years from now
oh wait, 20 years already passed...

No forcing is needed when killing Thalmor is the subject. It's for the greater good.

I played Skyrim for the first time in 2011 and had a blast. It was my first TES game which I engaged seriously, got filtered by Morrowind as a kid by shitty graphics and dull combat (yes, even by 2002 standards Morrowind character models looked like ass). It felt great for 2 weeks straight, when I was exploring everything, doing every quest I could find, turning every stone but in the end experience turned shallow. I could not find a reason to come back. There were maybe a handful of quests which I wanted to experience again, the world was big but I struggled to find anyone to fight or to interact with, main quest was possibly the biggest slap in the face to anyone who played RPGs back in 2000s, essentially I was making up my own "fun" inside of my head.

todd was technically correct though
you just needed a horse to do it

Someone speaks about skyrim being shallow

dark souls out of nowhere

i-it's fromdrones who are shallow

Yeah-yeah.
Stfu retard, we genuinely hate each other.

The bot is still going

Sad

It is with shavari specifically
But it's just a part of her rehabilitation

we us

get a pulse before you talk to me

main quest was possibly the biggest slap in the face to anyone who played RPGs back in 2000s

Lol get your head out of your ass. RPGs rarely have amazing stories and Skyrim's was fine.

I won't lie. I still boot it up and mess around every couple of years. I love the vibe of Skyrim.

People shit on it then they point to a game that has the most linear nothing world ever and say it's better. Chances are those people are bots or on a payroll in a 3rd world place.

essentially I was making up my own "fun" inside of my head.

In other words, you were role playing

implying

They hire people to be on those crowds, to produce hype content such as that video you posted, that then gets circulated on the internet and replicated by other people they hire to influence you to make a purchase, they keep selling the same game and people keep buying it.
No wonder gacha has been such a huge success and money making machine since people just hire attention engineers and people keep paying for games in installments for years on end until they drop out of it.

Gamergate. Gamers started hating everyone when everyone started hating gamers.

gamer

What a faggy word, it has always been "player", not "gamer".

Shut up faggot

This
And also this

Player 1, Player 2

Gaymer 1, Gaymer 2

Even turbonormie videogame thought leaders like Dunkey call Skyrim shit.

Good times.
You shouldn't gauge public opinion on the internet though, most likely that it's all tencent bots and 2 digit IQ havers parroting them thinking they're cool and interesting for hating on something. I
Go outside, hang around the few game shops still around, talk to the people there and discuss new games, that should give you a better feel for what people generally think. This shit hole and twitter are not representative of anything and almost every complaint is blown out of proportion because its the designated complainer's job to do so.