Devs listen to feedback

devs listen to feedback

add more, real, non sci-fi weapons

make tone more gritty

polish all animations

add more characters from previous games

remove perks tied to characters

Have doomers ever been more thoroughly BTFO?

Source?

remove perks tied to characters

I will now buy your game.

there is no fixing this turd you dumb shill

the worst part of it all, OP does it completely for free

youtube.com/watch?v=A2Komzj_nNQ&ab_channel=TripwireInteractive
They also reverted zedtime back to how it was in kf2.

Where is the proof? All they did is post some fucking concept art for the changed maps. I doubt they will get good gun animations back because the guy who did it for kf2 isn't working there anymore. Also the charcters are pure cringe, doubt they will remake all voice lines.
[Speaks in Spanish]

buyfag trying to drown his fellow gamers in his objectively terrible taste

Mind gaslighting me on PayDay 3 as well? It isn't worth making a new thread for OP.

Tripwire is in full panic mode. They genuinely do not understand why KF3 flopped so fucking hard. If they can't see the issues just by looking at a single still image of the game then there's no salvaging this shitheap. Just keep playing KF1.

I doubt they will get good gun animations back because the guy who did it for kf2 isn't working there anymore

They won't be as good as in KF2, no, but that doesn't mean they can't be good. The KF2 animations set the bar extremely high.

Also the charcters are pure cringe

They always were, it was just a type of cringe that appealed to you.

remove perks tied to characters

The literal only thing they had to do to win me over

How'd it flop? It's not out yet. They do a test or were pre-orders super low?

Is the series a left 4 dead type game? I want to buy it to scratch that itch

They always were

Nope, it was funny brit banter before.
Nothing cringe about calling somebody dumber than Wayne Rooney.

They genuinely do not understand why KF3 flopped so fucking hard

Evidently they do given they're implementing all the changes players wanted aside from some KF1 fags being obsessed with moving at a snail's pace.

Is the series a left 4 dead type game?

L4D meets counter-strike, kinda. Shoot hordes of monsters, get money, buy weapons is the jist of it.

Nope, it was funny brit banter before.

Nothing cringe about calling somebody dumber than Wayne Rooney.

Marvel quips for a different audience.

Not really, it's more like a horde shooter, the levels are "arenas" rather than linear and the enemies are pretty spongey.

L4D meets counter-strike

Say less I'm already sold

I want to buy it to scratch that itch

You can get KF1/2 for cheap, they're a bit different in terms of gameplay, but both are fantastic games in their own ways.

I loved KF1 in my teens, one of the best shooters ever made but everything baout KF2 made me drop it, it was so bad and I gave it a genuine try but it just lost the ball so hard.
So I'm surprised there's even 3 coming out now, Tripwire used to mean something to me damn it. Original Red Orchestra is still fucking amazing and 2 was ..meh, it was alright but still worse than its predecessor.

Also just to add KF1 & 2 have been freebies on multiple occasions, so check your Steam & EPIC accounts, cause you probably already own one of them.

KF2 made me drop it, it was so bad and I gave it a genuine try but it just lost the ball so hard.

So I'm surprised there's even 3 coming out now

KF2 was more successful than KF1 so it's really no surprise.

It is because of the doomers shitposting that they realized how much of a travesty the game was. But whatever, I bet you are a ghacatard who thinks

dommer = retard customer

Add retarded shit that don't belong to a KF game

Everybody tell you it's retarded and the game will be DOA

Double down anayway and give early access

It's garbage, game is DOA, flop guaranteed

Remove all the retarded shit people warned you about and instead do what should have been done since the beginning

People are happier now

BRAVO TRIPWIRE

Only happening post launch? That's pretty gay.

I miss doshposting.

*not all of this is at launch
also haven't they only shown a handful of changes while only delaying the game by just a few months.

Wave survival. You pick a perk that specializes in different weapons, and kill zeds to earn money to spend between waves and tackle harder specimens with stronger weapons until you reach the boss wave. The enemy health scaling per player makes the team more inclined to specialize.

Despite having a start as a UT2004 mod, it has a little bit more in common with CS like the other anon said, buying armor and guns, of course don't expect a carbon clone but even in KF1 holding a knife out makes you move faster. Iron sights are largely superficial mechanically. KF2 is a bit more 'modern' with sprinting, gun porn, and gorn, but is not as well liked around here, its theming is a lot weaker and less cohesive.

still using hero archetypes, with plans to add more later as paid content. They DID NOT remove perks from characters, they even have ults still

weapons are still mumbo jumbo sci fi that all look the same and none of them are interesting. Cant tell a shotgun from an AR, cant tell a sniper from a SMG etc.

levels all look the same

sound design is tinny and lacks punch, people preached it was just alpha sounds but it seems like thats just what they went with, long gone are the recordings of real weapons being used and making a point of how accurate they tried to get it, becuase they want pew pew sci fi weapons. Gun porn is gone

parkour, this is terrible for keeping players together as now there is incentive to actually run around on your own as players move so fast and have so much movement options they dont have to rely on sticking together.

Theyre not making a KF game, I dont want this. Just remake KF1 at this pointt. I just want KF1 with modern graphics, this is like Darktides horde mode but with no Warhammer identity to the enemies and equipment you use. Its painfully generic looking.

the same devs who said they wouldn't sell weapon dlcs in 2?

Get vermintide 2 it's cheaper and better

game is fixed

Oh, so it doesn't look like NuDoom anymore? Oh it does? Guess it's not fukken fixed then, no?

yoshiro is a white guy

don't know why i thought he was actually asian

Cheers anon, I'm quite interested in it and thought they wouldn't have shown new material during PAX. Not sure whether it's worth it to buy the game and annual pass immediately.

fatshart trash

pass

samefagging this hard

next you gonna say it's a "return to form"

Don't care still playing Deep Rock Galactic.

Do you always click on threads of games you don't have any interest in?

ten years later they have finally added the kungfu class

Who would have guessed?

why are you me

We are soul mates, brother!

/THREAD

Imagine playing anything but KF1

Maybe people should rally up and request a classic mode in the new game. Thinking about picking up the map editor once the game comes out and when I have more time again.

Im not giving tripwire another cent until that faggot cocksucker yoshiro kills himself

Just remake KF1 at this pointt

I already own KF1, I don't need another one. Most people actually want games to evolve over time.

Too bad kf3 isn't evolving anything. It's a steaming pile of shit

Not sure whether it's worth it to buy the game and annual pass immediately

Yeah idk. I actually had a rather positive opinion of the game during the beta. But it still needed a lot of work and I'm not so sure the couple of months extra they've had to polish it is enough. I'll probably buy it on release, the KF games are some of my all time favorites so I'm pretty excited for a new one, but I think there's a high chance it'll still need massive amounts work post launch

It's still shit retard

Too bad kf3 isn't evolving anything

Weapon mods, higher degree of mobility and more varied ways of moving through the map, threats and weak spots more spread out vertically, more weak spot variation. I understand that might not appeal to those that like to stand still, shoot down a corridor and only move the crosshair horizontally, but to say it isn't evolving is false.

I already own KF1, I don't need another one.

Surely you know you could say this exact same thing about sequels?

Surely you know you could say this exact same thing about sequels?

If they are the same game, yes. But both KF2 and 3 have changed up the formula enough to warrant a new game.

It will still feeel floaty with all that parkour shit.
Weapons will still feel like pea shooters.

I don't want to grind for 50 hours until I can start playing the game

That's not evolving you fucking retarded nigger. It's devolving into live service slop that can sell you mtx.

Nope. I'll just point out that they actually thought all that shit was actually good to have since they fundamentally don't understand the game they're trying to make. They will forget all these lessons the SECOND they start making money.
Plus it's online only last I checked for saving your progression

Does Killing Floor 3 Feature a Solo/Offline Mode?

Yes. Players can choose to play the game solo on their own machine. As long as the player has a working connection to the back end, their stats will progress

Helldivers 2 was so fucking annoying when their servers coughed and you ended up with nothing after getting booted from the game.

So basically less weapon distinction and flatter maps you don't have to worry about traversing gotcha

More weakspots sounds like a possible evolution of what they did in 2 but it's probably gonna be more like the resistances bullshit they pulled after the fact

Alright, as those concrete examples of how the gameplay has evolved weren't good enough, perhaps you could give an example of what you would consider the game evolving to be?

Nope. I'll just point out that they actually thought all that shit was actually good to have since they fundamentally don't understand the game they're trying to make. They will forget all these lessons the SECOND they start making money.

Doomers also said would change nothing at all, yet here we are with loads of changes the players wanted.
And who the fuck cares about solo, it's a co-op game, faggot.

game was already fine until you discord fags told them to change it
like himnow they just listen to discord and ruin it more

Who cares about offline

It's not literally about online it's about access to the backend of the game and leveling up w/e
It means when they shutter the game you won't be able to progress anymore. Your game has an expiration date.
In modern games it's a real issue with how many pop up, don't do well, and shut down the servers. With old KF this was never an issue.

less weapon distinction

You could make that argument I guess, I think it's a bit retarded, but I see your point.

flatter maps you don't have to worry about traversing

Literally the opposite

More weakspots sounds like a possible evolution of what they did in 2 but it's probably gonna be more like the resistances bullshit they pulled after the fact

Both. But even KF1 had weaknesses to certain types of damage.

Only KF1 was fun

They're just copying CoD, everything just feels the fucking same in the end.

And I think you're retarded if you think being allowed to hold forward and not move in any other direction for longer means the opposite of flattening map design. Might as well let me get up in the sky with a helicopter that has no obstacles whatsoever.

Maybe I am retarded because I genuinly have no idea what you're on about. Is the issue that you can now jump over a a waist-height fence?

Sure, as it in effect flattens traversal of the map. So where you may get cornered in KF1/2 you can just climb now lol

Doesn't help that in the beta the zed AI completely shit itself everytime I climbed something. These mechanics simply don't fit a zombie horde shooter nor do the developers have the ability to execute them

the only weird thing is the dash they have added. Or at least they should put it on a cooldown, so you don't ninja around every second and don't get hit.

That is very gay. I will postpone my comment to after launch and with a discount

Alright, fair enough, I understand why some like limited mobility and I think it has its charm. But I think the increased mobiity in both KF2 and 3 made for more fun gameplay. It needed a bit of tuning in KF3 however as it did feel a bit overpowered, make it less spammable, give it some downside or whatever.

and you think this will be different? kek fucking idiot

Evolution in my opinion on this is that KF1 would look exceptional with modern graphics. The tone and atmosphere of that game was completely lost on the subsequent games and Im now looking for KF4 before KF3 is even out beceause they have not made a sequel, theyve made a different fucking game with all the "evolution" its done, its "evolved" to be a different game."

None of these things are inherently good just because they are new or are in other games. Even a simple sprint function moves farther away from making players stick together because they move slow, KF3 has doubled down on this by adding parkour where you can watch the footage, where a horde of enemies come and instead of getting corners he just vaults up a fucking wall to another floor and the enemies have to go the long way, this is not condusive to team play, people will be running in different directions with this shit like they actually did in the beta. Long gone are the days of holding down a position with someone welding the doors and everyone doing their class role, relying on each class to be doing their role to succeed, replaced by everyone being able to do everything themselves, where the coop is just playing in the same lobby as other players killing enemies, not playing with them as a group to stay alive. Its lost its identity, and I want to go back, not "evolve" forward.

remember when sharpshooters did literally nothing but focus on specials? Or when supports main purpose was to make sure doors held, or medic who was a dedicated medic? Shit, just that alone is gone now, you have to buy healing kits, you cant run around topping people up and help teammates, because they are a limited use item now, primarily for healing yourself. All that shit is gone now, this is the stuff that made KF stand out among horde shooters, now its the same as the rest where you just run around an arena in the same map as other players killing enemies that spawn. This is not what KF was.

Also, KF1 is dead, I would like to see a revival.

None of that happened.
Still not buying TrannyWire games.

KF1 is dead

No it's not you idiotic zoom zoom.
It's simply an OLDSCHOOL MP game, in which you invite people and play for a few rounds before calling it a day.

KF1 > KF2

Nah

Its a different story playing with friends, a game doesnt even need to have servers to play multiplayer games with friends where you and your friends are literally the only people on the planet playing the game, youre being pedantic. 200 people playing a multiplayer game is a dead game anon. I want to see KF1 again but with a playercount that allows for people to jump on even without friends to play a good game, there was time you could do that with KF1.

Evolution in my opinion on this is that KF1 would look exceptional with modern graphics

I agree, but that's hardly evolution, it's just a remake.

Long gone are the days of holding down a position with someone welding the doors

I personally feel that kiting is a lot more fun than camping, but to each their own.

not playing with them as a group to stay alive

They mentioned something about a mechanic they've added to gorefasts, where they'll group up and hunt a player that goes off solo. It's just gorefasts so any class can handle them rather easily. But it's a pretty cool mechanic imo that can be expanded upon and the game should more actively punish straying from the group.

zoomer

devs ignore feedback and smugly talk down to players until a demo drops and fails utterly

panics and doubles their budget trying to crunch development the game back into killing floor 1

retard

It's not even out yet.

Sometimes you just know... guarantee it won't even break 10k consecutive players

Evidently they do given they're implementing all the changes players wanted

Why didn't they do that in the first place?

Can't be worse than KF1 at least.

You have no idea son

this thing is bad!

oh we made it better!

HAHAHAHA DOOMERS BTFO

too bad the gore sucks and the ragdolls suck and they disappear after 5 seconds and the game runs like fucking ass b cause UE5 and most disappointingly of all, it fucking sucks how gay OP is

Is that supposed to be some kind of retort or something?
Am I supposed to be shocked that a 16 year old game has no one playing it?

kids and their worship of numbers...

Well if old game good then surely people would be playing it?

More like Nazi Zombies I suppose

People are playing it. That's what your image shows. How many people do you need to be playing a 4-16 player co-op game for them to count to you addled brain?

numbers hurt my feelings :(

faggot lol

Its a different story playing with friends

Correct: it's the BEST WAY to play them.
I've never played KF on a public server. And I've been playing KF mods and games since 2005.

Also you can still host a Listen server and invite people.

The more the merrier.

devs not capable of providing an experience players want

t-they'll fix it later!!

no
here's the thing, whether you're talking about the players that already expect things from having played an earlier installment of the franchise (whether kf2 or kf1), or whether you want to refer to new potential buyers, it didn't resonate with neither

'feedback' is irrelevant here because it's already too late, it's not like there was a diamond hiding in the rough here and some people expected it to become good later, no, everyone that's tried it just thought it was mediocre at best and that's all there is to it

their game design is shit
their art design is shit
all the technology that was impressive and implemented in kf2 is now obsolete and them slapping some garbage RTX on the game and thinking it's something to be wowed about is also facepalmingly stupid

if a dev isn't capable of criticizing his own work on his own to provide something that people want, how the fuck do you expect them to be capable of listening to the feedback of players?
if they didn't want to make another KF game, they shouldn't have made one, worse yet, if they were forced to make a new one because that's all they have and none of the people that worked on it wanted to make a new, interesting, potentially viable product, then why the fuck did they spend so much money on it? just make a shitty indie level slop with barely any budget and make something actually worthy of having money being spent on on the side

they're out of touch and can't be trusted, don't care about a patch or two

>Can't be worse than KF1 at least.

>numbers hurt my feelings :(

Clearly your feelings are the ones hurt, Tripnigger employee. No one is going to play your Imran slop. Another shill thread with good will posted from veteran players wasted.

non-sequitor

I accept your concession, fly.

still uses unreal engine

still requires to whitelist epic domains

They did not listen well enough

So you just find one good game and then play it forever? So everyone just has one game they play?
What's your game? I'm still on Silent Hill 1 because that was the first good game I played. I can't play anything else now and I've finished it 15,385 times. Sometimes I wonder what other games are like, but SH1 is my game so I know I can't play anything else.

>polish all animations

But are they ever going to get it to the point where they were animating shit in 300 fps or whatever from kf2? Idk if it was just marketing but seeing them brag about that was cool

No D.A.R.

I sleep
tho knowing modern Tripwire they'll do the stupid KF2 voice again instead of his kino beeping in KF1

still using hero archetypes, with plans to add more later as paid content. They DID NOT remove perks from characters, they even have ults still

they've already said months ago when they delayed the game that they'll be separating perks from characters.

weapons are still mumbo jumbo sci fi that all look the same and none of them are interesting. Cant tell a shotgun from an AR, cant tell a sniper from a SMG etc.

they showed multiple new guns in the PAX video that look like standard modern day weapons.

parkour, this is terrible for keeping players together as now there is incentive to actually run around on your own as players move so fast and have so much movement options they dont have to rely on sticking together.

if you played the beta you'd know this isn't the case. you can slide and shit but enemies are just as fast (and FPs/Scrakes are much faster). you can't outrun them any more than you could in the first two games.

all the technology that was impressive and implemented in kf2 is now obsolete

the problem is that it's not using all that good tech at all. I can have 150 ragdolls in kf2 all with full dismemberment and persistence. The physx shit is broken these days but that alone is more interesting than anything in KF3.
3 is a worse game at a fundamental level. Changing the gun models can't fix it

did they remove the ranged attack from clots? like holy fuck the beta was so pants on head retarded that none of the shit you said can fix it

did they remove the ranged attack from clots?

no idea, i didn't spot it in any of the PAX gameplay but I also wasn't looking out for it.

more like

be retarded faggots

double down on the hated kf2 aesthetic

"thanks for the feedback but we'll do what we want ;)"

shit brix when the pre-release reception is rightfully overwhelmingly negative

delay the game by almost a year shortly before release

scramble to put something resembling a worthwhile sequel together

you are now here

release a wet fart because all the talent left due to idiotic management

it's forgotten shortly after release

So you're saying people actually want new game once in a while and devs can't just endlessly remake old game with better graphics?

by almost a year

you're retarded

they've already said months ago when they delayed the game that they'll be separating perks from characters.

They also said its post launch, and that they are simply addressing it. Ill believe it when I see the change, they were very adamant about keeping this shit despiter all opposition and I dont believe they are going to drop the battlepasses and shit focused around this stuff so idely.

they showed multiple new guns in the PAX video that look like standard modern day weapons.

They were untextured models of the base weapon, which is what the sci fi weapons that are in the game are. They are real weapons with shit plastered in and over them. Again, Id rather see it in game than take their word for it. Remember, all the weapons are customizable, what do you think that means for those modern weapons and adding "this weapon deals lightning damage"

if you played the beta you'd know this isn't the case. you can slide and shit but enemies are just as fast

Yes, everyone runs around like a headless chicken, some enemies are so fast that there is no running from them. One of the bosses was fucking annoying because of this, you were guaranteed to take damage. KF is suppose to be slower, people move together, this is a lot more frantic and fast paced. May be preference but I really didnt like it, again, it reminds of me Darktide but without the Warhammer aesthetic. As a support main, the near uselessness of the support tool is dissapointing, especially since enemies now permanently destroy doors, I ended up not even using the support tool because of this.

different genre
vermintide is mechanically easier, you have one guy in the lobby playing a sniper character killing all the specials while everyone else repeats their melee rotation

they're gon release that shitheap sooner? lmaoo