Now that the honeymoon is over, is it really the greatest JRPG of all time?

run through blue rocky corridor

fight red monster by pressing X

run through orange rocky corridor

fight blue monster by pressing X

game of the decade for sure

All Persona/Shin Megami Tensei games. Next.

I haven't played every JRPG so I couldn't tell you. It's a good game though. Why does everything need to be "the best?"

gay anime aesthetic

Anime website, frog shill

Not really. The story is too tryhard in making you care (kinda like Nier Automata, it insists upon itself) and the gameplay just becomes a parry fest while you spam the objectively best one or two skills with every party member by the end. Boss and enemy design is pretty cool, I’ll give it that.

Ironically that's every JRPG ever *except* E33

honestly yeah
xenoblade is a glorified 6/10 rpg
final fantasy is fucking dead
dragon quest 10 is still as complex as a nes jrpg
atelier got too easy and lost its roots and was never a contender really
persona is more a visual novel than rpg and when it becomes an rpg its very surface level shit

also i do not understand why people are saying this game is like persona, nothing about it is really like persona besides....the battle menu UI that was only a thing in the series from persona 5??? people who say this game is like persona have only ever played persona and no other jrpg

it insists upon itself

translation: it's a story about adult themes and not cheeky teenagers going to kill god while making cringe jokes

No, because it's not a JRPG.

Eh, add in an extra line for parrying after pressing X and that has definitely been my experience with it and I'm 10 hours in

Best FRPG of all time

Almost no JRPGs involve killing god.

But yes, a story that knows what it is is better than one that tries to make itself seem more complex than actually is

No japanese dub

it insists upon itself

has become the pseudo intellectual cop out phrase when they cant say why its bad but they just dont like it personally

shit, i actually assumed you're baiting but now that i stopped and thought about it seriously and unbiased, you are unironically largely correct lmfao. and now that i think about it more exp33 might've made me realize how low the bar is for the average JRPG. don't get me wrong they have this certain japanese soul & charm..... okay i dunno what the fuck i'm talking about but FF9 and Chrono Trigger are still among my favorite games

People keep saying it's different form other jrpgs, but how? In what way?

Acting like the game being top is bad just makes you look like a fucking retard, which you’re.

There is no such thing as an "anime aesthetic", anime has a wide variety of different art styles

It's not a JRPG.
Not buying your slop. Kys shill

which you’re.

Lol, esl mutt retard. Makes sense an ugly, stinky brown person thinks gay moe anime crap is better

If you're not a fan of anime, you have no business playing JRPGs. Them being anime in video game form is the appeal.

I'm 3 hours in and I don't like it this far, 1/6 of the time has been combat (and I hate QTE), 1/6 have been looking at menus, 1/3 story and 1/3 running along every corner of the corridors trying to find more hidden stuff

Lol, esl mutt retard.

Nice concession, faggot.

honeymoon will carry on for another month, then no one will talk about it again

Play on Expert shitter

How can it be a JRPG if it wasn't made by Japanese people?

This is the "mature games for mature gamers like me" of Jrpg huh? That's all it is.

Where Verso's bitch ass at?

It's literally the highest rated game of all time on PSN store, Steam, Backloggd, and Metacritic.

Shut the fuck up retard

zoomer moment

Mario and Luigi

you're expending the honeymoon deadline in every thread holy kek
insecure much lil bro?

pseudo intellectual

The problem with the plot is, it thinks it’s being too intellectual. Same way Nier makes you think it’s first college class essay on existentialism plot is anything more than what it is; trite overwrought garbage written by a horny dude that just wanted to put hot babes in his game but needed some excuse to hide behind his own false intellectualism. E33 suffers the same fate. Notice how no one talks about the plot and posts about ‘le heckin characters’ in a game with a female gender ratio of 3:1.

chrono cross,

LOL

It's not even in top 100 on steam lol

buy an ad

Remove the chinese reviews and it's like 98%, which is higher than every other JRPG. We're not talking about some gay indie shit with 15 reviews

Pretty much

It's for pseudo-intellectuals who think they're too "mature" for JRPGs

It’s up there. Not sure what I would put ahead of it. I’m not really nostalgic though, bg3 and this were definitely awesome, I don’t think about classic games like crono trigger or ff6/7 in a way that really compares to modern games.

Yes

The story is not remotely pretentious, you're trying way too hard

I'm about 5 hours in and it's fine but please tell me the story won't result in something cringe like "This was actually all some girls fantasy because she was bullied/dying and did this to cope" cause If so I'm going to drop it now

JRPGs have always had a diverse cast of characters. They've never been just teenagers, there are plenty of JRPGs with adult characters.

And E33 hard opens into a quest to fight the god(like being) that presides over death. It's not subverting, it's reveling in those conventions.

AI generated post. The fanbase for this game really are all bots

Holy cope

I'm an adhd zoomer and demand spoilers!!!!

Just uninstall it and then kys

no icky anime so maybe stacy will talk to me and chad will be my friend if i play it?

drop it now because it's not a game for faggots

I hated the ending. I think it was shallow and unjustified. Essentially the exact same problem FFTA had.

I wouldn't know, I don't play pretentious style-over-substance trash.

When you make a statement like this you need to list off what jrpgs you actually played because it feels like it's just Persona 3-5

Literally every stereotype of JRPGs is completely untrue

E33 is literally a love letter to JRPGs, made by people who love and grew up with them.

Anyone using it to shit on other JRPGs is completely missing the point. The game is a celebration of JRPGs and their tropes.

That's an interesting take considering that the most important character in the game is a teenager

Man this posts reeks of reddit. Are you baiting?

ffdrone can't count up to 9

no way

and the antagonist could be considered a god

This.

fuck

Anon... I...

it was all a dream and Gustave comes out of the shower at the end (not many will get that boomer reference)

The story is pretentious. If the novel was a book everyone would say how nothing happens until the big "plot twists" and in between the characters are just walking from place to place, killing enemies in a world they dont understand or even try to understand for the sake of realism. For jrpg gamers, hiding story and emotions in the hidden subtext might be the most profound concept in storytelling but for any other piece of literature it is literally the basic skill needed to tell anything worth some value. But this game is able to hide behind music and good visuals so none of that is apparent. I actually like the game but the story is nothing special. Maybe for jrpgs

Most astroturfed game ive seen in Anon Babble in quite time

yes

Do normalfags seriously not know what a JRPG is?

same playbook as wukong

No. As a JRPGfag I would probably have preferred the CEO's vision. His vision was likely something like this:

the world is a canvas

the ending is something like the painters are messing with the canvas, and Alicia ended up there or something

5 party members: Gustave, Maelle, Verso, Sciel, Lune

Sciel childhood friend etc

ending is we save the Canvas but Alicia has to return to her world

Then I suppose the new writer came in and said something like "you know this is really cliche and jrpg-like, what if this is all about a family drama, we kill Gustave off (she hates males self-inserts like every woman) and Verso becomes the new protag." They kept the romances because players really like this stuff as seen in Baldur's Gate 3 (even though they make NO SENSE in the narrative after Act I).

The story is pretentious. If the novel was a book everyone would say how nothing happens until the big "plot twists"

you didn't play the game as expected from a faggot
the twist is forshadowed since the very prologue and in a very obvious way
you'd have to be a total retard to not see it coming

IGN doesn't think so. Take that Clairtards

youtube.com/watch?v=PWnyL3C535k

o wise anons, I am stuck because I don't know how to build the characters, please help me out.
In other four niggas in a row games you generally have:

the dps

the tank

the healer

the mage

but here it's only 3 niggas in a row and besides spells you have to keep in consideration also weapons and luminas.
It's all very complicated and making me realise how much of a brainlet I am and trying to plan for builds is exhausting. I don't even know who I should keep in my team, Maelle maybe? And that would require Lune too,
but then I'm left with a single choice, maybe Sciel?
Please help, I'm not very smart.

It's the biggest event in gaming since BG3. Before that was Elden Ring.

I didn't go back and play JRPG's until I was like 20 and bought + hacked a PS2 and Wii. I don't have childhood nostalgia for shit most people my age do (I'm 34). It's the best JRPG I've played as an adult, and I've played good shit like Shadow Hearts Covenant, Wild Arms 3, And Valkyrie Profile 2.

Greatest is ehhhh leaning towards no but I think it's one of the greats regardless. Also I know it's not actually a JRPG but among that type of game it's one of the greats

NTA but it's literally chinks review bombing over imaginary NTR, those people are insane

haha

ff8

Damn struck out on your first choice. Also Last Remnant? Fucking really? Not even you're that stupid I'm sure

Agreed with this.

i consider the game a masterpiece but calling it the greatest jrpg of all time is fucking absurd. FF9 is the greatest jrpg of all time. and the greatest game of all time, period
it's too early to declare it as such anyway you fucking retard, have you never heard of recency bias?

Like clockwork, every time the story gets criticism they always say "it's because you didn't understand it." No my friend, I did and I see it for what it's worth. I think it's because this is probably one of the first pieces of media where they are forced to read between the lines, and so they feel they are experiencing something akin to real literature. so they make this connection with the game because they feel it is personal now, they "understand" it in a way that no one else does, and if you dont worship it, then you didn't "get" it. when in reality its another story about family drama

story isn't pretentious

erm it's french

every time the story gets criticism

You just said it was bad without anything else, dipshit. What do you expect people to talk to you about?

It's one of them. Bar has been raised thanks to its existence.

i defend E33 against buckbroken seething retards every day since launch, but posts like this actually make me sympathize with people who shit on the game.
this is a jrpg board, if you don't like jrpg's you don't belong here and will never fit in here. E33 is an amazing game but you are an absolute raging homosexual

what are the parries like in this game, as someone that recently tortured himself through Khazans 3 different goddamn parries on the greatsword recently how do the ones in this compare? I guess what I'm asking is if I got frustrated at Khazan is this more or less frustrating?

Easily.

what a pretentious story

E33 is Final Fantasy X and Lost Odyssey's spiritual succesor. These three together make a kino trifecta.

Throughout my entire game I was using Luna, Verso and Maelle. Luna and Maelle were my heavy hitters, Verso was the tank/enabler. Essentially, my go-to tactic was: both Lune and Verso set up Maelle to go to town. Lune sets everything on fire, weakening the opponents, Verso buffs Maelle's AP and puts debuffs on the enemy, Mealle goes to town with her ridiculous virtuoso attack. Then Lune wipes out what's left of the enemy. Maelle in general is so OP, she one-shotted the final boss and I wasn't even grinding all that much.

I dont know I didn't play Khazan

It should have followed established tropes rather than carve its own unique identity with two emotionally powerful endings

Nah. E33 came out just right. And I'm not shitting on other jrpgs, it's just funny to see you slight a game for not being more homogeneous.

chrono cross

no

It's a pasta

imagine three different just guards with different timings for different attacks and enemies with long combo strings and sometimes AOE/bullet hell

fpwp

thanks for the reply anon, I'll try experimenting using your team comp as the basis, will report later.

It is still good, but I'd have personally proffered this hypothetical original. The way it is I can't really call it a jrpg

The World Ends With You
NEO: the World Ends with You
Devil Survivor Overclocked
Phantasy Star IV
Digital Devil Saga
Tales of Vesperia
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
Romancing Saga 2
Valkyrie Profile
Dragon Quest V

based on facts post

If you favor at least one character and let the other two act as support you can have one walking nuclear bomb handle everything. Build whoever however you like. But there IS a lot to micro manage and I wish the game let you save pre sets with skills/lumes/pictos etc. Toward the end I stopped experimenting because it got boring constantly switching pictos in and out to learn new skills and reapply skills. If they ever do a QoL update I'd like to have pre saved party builds.

It sure would have been a "nicer" ending and I'd love to see Lune with Gustave as my soft spot but it genuinely would be less interesting than what we got, it's a cut and dry "good ending" for everyone while there are still fights about the merits of the two endings we ended up getting.
Agreed that giving fucking Verso the social system and sex is weird, but it helps to characterize him and makes the betrayal hit harder, what a piece of shit.
I'll wait to see what they're going to do with that alleged film.

Maybe give more detail as to how im wrong thats usually how these things go

the exact same pastas posted every thread get 10+ replies

You niggas are all bots

It depends, some attacks are ridiculously easy to read, some are pure "fuck you". Also, there are three (well, four) different counter types - dodge, parry, gradient parry and jump. You can use dodge and parry interchangably, the difference is that dodge is way more forgiving but doesn't earn you AP points (that you REALLY need) and you cannot counter from dodge. Gradient parries have a different counter button, as do jumps. It gets funny once the enemies that can oneshot you start mixing those attacks.

i can't imagine getting addicted to something as worthless as (You)s at least gambling might get you something if you're delusional enough

Fair enough. I like the vision you offer as well, there's more catharthis there, but I personally like the balls E33 had to kill off Gustave and go where it went. I wish it would have had MORE balls to make it clear that Maelle is dead at the end of Act 2 and that Alicia is a new character, but they probably felt that was just laying it on too thick at that point.

support + DPS + DPS
Anyone can use items when needed, so just git gud at parrying and make sure at least one person has a break move.

It gets funny once the enemies that can oneshot you start mixing those attacks.

I fucking love DDR bros

people aren't ready to admit it but the game balance completely shitting the bed in act 3 is just not a good thing, even if it's by design. same way you don't get to put trash minigames in your game and think it's not gonna drag down the overall quality because "it's a joke bro"

the game was goty until the end of act 2.

I love pasta.

Deutsche Demokratische Republik?

No, I agree, and get shit on unanimously when I bring it up. Act 1 and 2 are fantastically paced. Act 3 just feels rushed in comparison. Last time I felt such whiplash between quality and loss of it was entering the final chapter of Wukong. Both still great games but the ending acts felt/feel notably inferior.

It's the Xenogears of our generation.

It's not a JRPG

"JRPG" isn't a style or a genre, it just means "RPG made in Japan"

They should have made it so that beating optional superbosses in Act 3 will buff the story bosses so they stop being a joke

that Alicia vs Painted Alicia mirror duel.

So that's how it feels to be on the recieving end of Maelle's bullshit...
Why are even fighting, you crazy bitch?

same way you don't get to put trash minigames in your game and think it's not gonna drag down the overall quality because "it's a joke bro"

hey worked for BoF3 I'm a slut for the fishing

Great classics have straight good ends and are not dependent of a moral debate. Chrono Trigger, many FFs, other games as well.
The two endings don't exist in a vacuum either, and I believe the game suffers from it too. For example, Sciel and Lune end up being extremely underdeveloped as the story shifts to focus on the family. Surely everyone remembers the weird Visages scene with Sciel (after which we have to extrapolate her character to explain). And while the game mentions in passing the relevancy of the artificial life in the canvas, the question the end really asks is if it is worth it to live in a fantasy world rather than face reality. The result of that is what many anons ended up feeling: that the world of the game itself doesn't really matter, it's all background for the escapism question.

Act 3 was very likely trimmed down during development for a lack of time/resources. The whole collecting chroma cutscene should have been a dungeon, not a cutscene.

honeymoon

?

For example, Sciel and Lune end up being extremely underdeveloped as the story shifts to focus on the family.

Holy shit this. It sure is interesting LORE to learn about Clea and their backstory, but they shouldn't have rugpulled the whole game and made them the protagonists.
That's just malicious writing.

The balance is a bit wonky, but it's not that bad as long as you know the order to approach things. I'm really enjoying the endgame/side content

Lune isn't really all that bad, but holy shit is Sciel underdeveloped. Also, she is nowhere near as memorable as Lune. I dunno if it's Lune's voice actress' charisma or something, but literally everybody loves Lune and almost nobody cares for Sciel. It can't be just because Lune is hot as fuck.

For how much the writing wants to focus on Verso, he really has the best chemistry with Sciel out of anyone, I don't know why they mishandled her so much

the world of the game itself doesn't really matter, it's all background for the escapism question

I think you're on to something. Thats kind of what I was feeling too, like everything is just a setup for a metaphor ReFantazio I think thats why I never connected with the characters, they are realistic written sure in the sense they arent anime, but they didn't feel like "people" to me, they are just there for the metaphor. desu it brings the writing down a few points

7/10

Great classics have straight good ends

Silent Hill 2? FFX? Games can have melancholy endings, and I don't think E33 suffers for offering two viable, starkly opposed endings. But we can agree to disagree. I think E33 belongs to the greats and offers a wonderful touch of despair to otherwise hopeful, equally great adventures. I like the variety. And I hope E33 has inspired some distant creative to try reaching a little higher when making their nexg game story.

There's a lot to Lune either, but at least she got her own quest, unlike Sciel. My shot in the dark here is that she had another role, maybe a traitor (how did she get so far without the Lumina Converter and on her own?), but that was changed. They added the husband stuff to give her something, but where do you go with that?

nah, it is bad. you shouldn't be able the one shot the super boss of the game, period. and it's not like some super secret setup that lets you do it, it's simply just using the game's basic systems. I played through the game on expert because I wanted to make use of the game's systems, yet still be challenged. that's just not the case here. and having to intentionally nerf myself to get something barely resembling a challenge is a shit compromise

LMAO

I wish Roger Ebert wasn't dead, because Clair Obscur is a perfect example of a videogame that you can shove in his face and tell him why his pretentious Almodovar flick can be considered a work of art and this game can't.

It's a well made, fun video game. Anything beyond that is stupid. Tier lists are cancer.

There isn't* a

Its a really good game but is hard to deny this is one big "baby first JRPG" , considering how much people are glazing it, my only conclusion is that normies arent turn off by turn based mechanics, but by the anime aesthethics of JRPGs

The last sentence is what I hope E33 comes to be. I dont think it's a masterpiece, and I dont think it is one of the best games ever made. But I think it has the potential to actually influence other big name developers to start making some true titles that give some of that magic that the vintage FF used to do. If thats all it does then its made history in my books

Problem when that ending becomes all it is about. I think that's what anon is trying to say.

Just beat this big frosty dude from the map. Wasn't that bad until he "unleashed his power" and the timings of his spell changed.

the greatest JRPG of all time

No, but still an amazing 10/10 game.

seek help

Sciel does feel like either a character with cut content, or an afterthought. Because the game clearly had ideas for Gustave, Lune, Monoco and especially fucking Maelle, but Sciel feels a bit "along for the ride". Also, her entire gameplay gimmick is cards, but in-story we are never explained why. Is she a gambler? A seer? At least with Gustave, Verso and Lune I get where their gimmick powers are coming from.

Almodovar

most overrated gay faggot director ever

Elementral Trick

Intervention/Cheater

Elemental Genesis

You simply don't need more

Trying way too hard lil gweilo.

Lune's invention to use the elements isn't explained either. She has dark powers and Doom, so in JRPG fashion I expected her to betray the party. Maybe that was the original intention.

powerfarm levels and all the best lumina

play on easy

look up OP oneshot guides

refuse to handicap yourself at all if it's too easy

wtf why it easy!!???

Simon and Clea were tough for me on expert using regular builds

In terms of gameplay, hlw do you rank the party roster from best to worst?

She has dark powers and Doom

Meant Sciel

I would rank them alright, could use more characters and more females

I had level 33 weapons, level 30 picto, and 150 lumina, and Clea on Expert still took me like 8 turns

1. Lune - great all-rounder, if specced correctly can solo almost everything.
2. Verso - he's just reliable as both a tank and an enabler, his Dualiso opens a lot of possibilites.
3. Maelle - DPS beast, but requires A LOT of setup to really shine.
4. Sciel - also really good as a DPS, but I barely used her, beacuse her gimmick is pretty wonky and I've yet to see her outdamage Maelle. But she's really efficient as a healer, believe it or not.
5. Monoco - I have no idea how to use this guy. Apparently he's very good, but he requires even more micronamaging than Maelle.

But the story of Clair Obscur isn't even intellectual. It's has a very simple story and all the plot twists are literally right in front of you from the start. But it works, because the themes are pretty universal and relatable.

The result of that is what many anons ended up feeling: that the world of the game itself doesn't really matter, it's all background for the escapism question.

I think this is part of the reason why some people liked the ending so much. Because normies are much more concerned with real world stuff. It it is not immediately relevant to the our world then it is 'childish'. E33 is ultimately about grief, depression, and 'shutting yourself off from the world', which are all relevant to the every day lives of normies in Instagram and Twitter

nice reading comprehension.
the fact that you think you need to farm levels or that they do shit fuck at all proves that you're one of the biggest retards.

Verso is broke, Lune is garbage, Monoco is a beast, Sciel falls off but has good utility, Maelle is a nuclear warhead

You still looked up all the best picto locations and most broken builds. The damage is due to exponential damage stacking due to dozens of the best damage pictos

it's a twist on the omelas story by le guin. that's a billion times more intellectual than standard video game fare

Monoco is only good as a buff and debuff bitch desu. At least once stuff starts scaling in act 3.

Verso is definitely fucking nuts, my gun base attack build charged 2.5 gradient charges in a single turn, applied 120 burn, and dealt 500k-1500k damage.

I didn't look up anything you fucking mouth breather, I literally said in my post you don't have to look up anything, or figure anything out, it just happens naturally by using the game's systems. the fact that you think you even have to look up picto locations proves that you play these games like a lobotimite

This is a copy paste btw

Im reading that a lot of people get random

Fatal Crash

errors, with a vast array of different gpu/cpu combos so i have to assume is that UE5 being the piece of shit it is.
However for me they are highly predictable, i only get those in long cutscenes (45 sec+ roughly).
So now after every boss i skip the cutscene and then go watch it on a video on youtube.
Fucking sucks but i already had to replay a couple bosses before i resorted to this.
Thanks fucking frogs and fucking UE5

this is not an easter egg you schizo

literally everybody loves Lune

She's the whole package.

You might have missed the threads discussing the plot here for 2 entire weeks

you are such a bad faith faggot, there are tons of threads talking about the 2 endings pretty consistantly and discussion of how the plot is laid out.
you are also still not making any points and just taking pot shots. "erm the game is taking itself too seriously, it isnt as smart as it thinks it is!"
This nothing opinion is blurted out here and in other contrarian cesspools anytime anything remotely popular is brought up.
you have no personality besides hating current popular thing

Just don't use 300 fucking lumina and stack every single offensive picto in the game bro

it's not even the best RPG in the bing bing wahoo genre

sciel is kinda fucking busted, the weapon that makes sure every sun attack stacks 10 foretold regardless, and giving her healing pictos makes her imo the best healer in the game. she will always full heal herself at a minimum if you give her the pictos that gives 50% of the healing you to do others back.
she is a glass canon healer dps buffer. cant take a hit for shit if you dont give her some defense though

It's not a jrpg, and it's mediocre to bad

Change it to Expert, limit your lumina, start NG+, and/or stop abusing broken shit. You act like such a little helpless retard faggot

Nah

Persona 5 mogs

1. Verso
2. Everybody else. They exist to provide continued support to Verso.
3. Monoco because I like his transformations.

If you are like 13 ig, sure

so you put monoco last?

Let me respec that post.
1. Verso
2. Verso's best bro
3. Verso's harem

thats better

I played the entire game on expert you fucking piece of shit, which is exactly why I said I picked expert so that I have to use the game's systems and still get a challenge, and if the game cannot provide that, then that's the failing of the game, not me as a player "bro just play worse and it'll be more interesting".

no, the entire idea that I have to babysit the game so it doesn't fucking crumble under its own systems at any given moment is not interesting. and what the fuck do you mean Ng+? I went into Ng+ and shit was even more easy to kill than in act 3 Lumiere

"umm trust me bro it gets challenging at act 3 Ng+, just give it 20 hours bro"

everyone defending this game being an unbalanced piece of shit I have to be careful not to turn into a boring 1 shot affair for 30% of its runtime is retarded.

Shit game for tasteless faggots, also not a Jrpg.

The devs have said it themselves on Twitter that the game is designed to be "broken," so I don't see what your gripe is. Either move on to another game or handicap yourself for a challenge. The devs put all of this busted shit into the game on purpose. The end-game curbstomping is supposed to be your reward. Take it or leave it.

The devs have said it themselves on Twitter that the game is designed to be "broken,"

see intentionally bad design is still bad design. other jrpgs can also be broken, but that usually happens at the very endgame level and not to the point where you one shot the uber boss from full health.

struggling a bit with paintress boss

think about going back to continent to maybe upgrade some things

if i want to do that and return, every time i have to run from the outside of the monolith room, enter the monolith, run to the flag, teleport to renoir boss room, enter even further into the monolith, touch another flag, then teleport to the peak

The problem with the plot is, it thinks it’s being too intellectual.

Any piece of fiction can best be measured by how strong its core idea is.
E33 is based on a what-if scenario, which is the hallmark of all genre fiction, and can therefore never transcend slop. That's why every theme it offers up comes down to simple ideas of trauma and sacrifice.
"LITERARY" fiction, on the other hand, works out from a worthwhile universal concept, which is usually irreducibly complex in its own right. Kafka's The Metamorphosis is a good example, because its content and portrayal of identity and becoming are specific, and govern its form from top to bottom.

The end-game curbstomping is supposed to be your reward

for players who pick the highest difficulty setting because they want a challenge, a reward would be... a challenge. I know, mind-blowing revelation.

you could OS final boss in most of main FF games. Especially 8 and 7

e33 is a video game spin on the omelas allegory. so this dichotomy you're posing here doesn't work

same thing happened to me, what were they thinking
I know the motto of this game is no handholding but come on now

not having to play the game anymore for the last third of its runtime is a reward for playing the game.

I can't believe we live in a time where people consider it a ewarding experience to be able to sleepwalk through a game's final challenges.

Cry to somebody that cares you autistic pedantic faggot. We already told you how to make it harder.

Change it to Expert, limit your lumina, start NG+, and/or stop abusing broken shit.

ABLOO BLOO BLOO GAME NOT HARD ENOUGH BECAUSE I REFUSE TO GO TO NG+ OR USE ANYTHING BUT THE MOST BROKEN BUILDS!!!!

ok then shut the fuck up

Legend of Dragoon Remake never happening

youtu.be/6YzVPmXESTg

e33 is slop thoughbeit

I didn't even use stendahl, I used burn stack build + burning canvas. you ARE LITERALLY RETARDED if you think only the most overpowered builds break the fucking game. and then in the same breath you say shit like "the game is designed to be broken" so what is it, you piece of shit?

I already told you I played the entire game on expert, are you a fucking bot or something? I also told you I went into Ng+ and it was easier than act 3 Lumiere.

I can criticise the game for trivialising itself for 1/3rd of its run time. it's valid. fuck off, end yourself.

Hardly. But it's certainly better than anything Japan has made in 20 years.

LEAVE MY PRETENTIOUS SLOP ALONE

calm down sissy

I've been watching that so much with all this recent "muh turn based" debate
Best intro of all time I swear to God
Even the mediocre voice acting doesn't detract from it

I wonder at what NG+ will stunlock stop working.

It's so good that its bad

The "let's launch the greatest expedition" fell so flat holy shit

It does work though, Omelas is what, three pages and it manages to build a world and present its philosophical message efficiently. E33 is a much longer, much grander adventure that should take those concepts from Omelas three pages and be able to derive more questions and scenarios that freely explore the nature of what Omelas was trying to convey. But it doesn’t, it does what it does well and it’s entertaining. But at the end of the day say if E33 was blasted out of existence, nothing of literary value would be lost, because the hours of content, music, beautiful cinematography and character interactions could all be summed up in those 3 pages.

It has nothing to do with damage nuke A, damage nuke B, or damage nuke C. It's lumina you fucking retard. There is no cap and you can keep stacking dozens of multiplicative damage modifiers for exponential damage. You probably have like 300+ lumina combined with the best pictos and stacking buffs on top of that.

And no, Act 3 after getting all the best pictos and tons of lumina is not 1/3rd of the game, it's like the last 5% and then you have NG+.

I have 150 lumina, level 33 weapons, and level 30 pictos, and the game is still a decent challenge endgame on Expert, although Gommage's damage is so high that I just focus rushing that and it overshadows other abilities

Omelas must have been trending in twitter this week because I have never once seen this mentioned in 30 years on the internet and now everyone all at once is just casually mentioning it here and there to sound cultured and intelligent.

Just spec everyone to highest damage possible and parry every attack you fucking casul

reddit

people are talking about the story that the game took inspiration from from

yeah weird right

Lune can be a healer and Sciel is the support
If you play with the parry/dodge buttons you don't need Lune as a healer, she can just use elemental genesis all day

I decided to go for Maelle as my DPS, Lune as the secondary DPS/healer and Sciel as support, as suggested. I feel like Verso is not good enough at supporting when I can use Sciel's All Set on turn 1, maybe as a Maelle replacement but I'm not giving up on Maelle for the Cruella wannabe. We'll see about other characters when I'll unlock them but I'll probably just place them with Verso.
agreed, I just respecd everyone and I don't plan to do any more, many QoL cries are unjustified but a menu revamp would be nice.

sure, but Lune heals can still help with the eventual mistake.

It is an amazing RPG but Act 3 was too rushed and the game is way too easy to break. By mid Act 2, I was so overpowered that the battles had little to no tension. Loved the mystery but I thought the exposition dump that happen was abit jarring. Still a top tier RPG.

You have literally never talked about Omelas before in your life before this week, no anon has. But suddenly all at once every thread for the past week mentions Omelas. Link the twitter post that told you about it.

Really? I loved it, had some LOTR vibes here

some anon got if from reddit, I don't use xitter, neither leddit. but that's my guess

I dont understand what the problem here is. So what if they found it on Twitter or Reddit. Why does it piss you off. At least the knowledge of it is used in conversation about the game and its theme

I feel like Verso is not good enough at supporting when I can use Sciel's All Set on turn 1

He's amazing with Corpeso and every base attack and ranged attack picto, double burn, and Faster than Strong or Cheater to give him two consecutive turns. He spends the whole first turn spamming his shots at weakpoints, then ends it with a base attack that debuff,break, apply like 90 burn stacks, and recharge his AP to full for the second turn. If you break, then you can immediately use his stun extending move. With two turns you can dedicate both to increasing burn for Maelle to follow up with burning canvas, or you can be full on DPS by using the move litterally called Folow Up after 10 shots and S rank to deal millions of damage, or dedicate your second turn to refreshing the AP of your allies or applying a part wide buff.

the theme is cringe and reddit

I actually discovered it a few weeks ago when I was researching short stories to read with fantasy elements. It was always one of the top recommendations so it's not that crazy to think people have just come across it here and there

if the little meteor thing at the tail wasn't there I would've called you a schizo

It’s actually insane how this happens, saw some yt faggot talking about it and he didn’t even mention he only heard of it because of fotm slop

E33 was the best thing to ever happen to a LoD remake, it proved something like that could actually work

And no, Act 3 is not 1/3 of the game after you have already cleared 80% of act 3

are you retarded?

reason it fell flat is because by act 3 it's not about the expeditions and the adventure anymore but about the meta plot family drama

Sciel

Better ass than Lune

Prettier than Lune

Sexier voice than Lune

Not a cunt like Lune

also not a character, and Lune isn't a cunt, incel

I just want to say after countless shit I played, being able to use spells without mana was so refreshing

also not a character

She has a better and more complex personality than lune in general.
Her outlook on life and death is really unique in the game, that's why verso likes her so much.

If verso likes her so much, then why did he reject her advances twice and bang Lune instead?

Lune isn't a cunt, incel

X to doubt

J'RPG.

literally quotes her in his fight against Maelle

she actually goes through the portal to meet him one last time

As far as the game is concerned, their short flings may as well be canon.

fpbp

But I banged Sciel why would I go for not the best girl?

Sciel's mannerisms are so cute bro....
I want her to lose my child

Why? The game wasn't about expedition for a while already

The balance curve is so fucked that it brought down the last third of the game for me. Its still a great 8.5 or 9 out of 10 but man look at all that act 3 shit that is trivialized even without Maelle. You can basically do similar shit with Verso, Sciele or even Lune with Trick/Genesis.

style-over-substance

it's style and substance
For the first time in ages, this is one game that feels like a game made how games used to be made in the 90s, early 2000s.
It's solely focused on itself, nothing in the real world matters, no politics, no underlying contemporary message. Just vision and passion.
Pirate it, try it, you'll get it.
Fuck the modern industry for robbing us of games like this one.

Yahtzee liked it.

hello friends i am new
should i fugg sciel or lune?

Sciel is basically canon

better combat than 99.9% of all JRPGs in the last 20 years

Easily.

my only conclusion is that normies arent turn off by turn based mechanics, but by the anime aesthethics of JRPGs

Anime aesthetics are fine, it's what they usually entail that's the problem. Games with anime aesthetics are generally full of cringe and overused tropes that westerners roll their eyes at. Avoiding anime games is a Pavlovian reaction.

Greatest? Probably not. But it's an excellent game. A strong 8.5 at least.

kek yeah. having a JRPG without a talking animal companion was already a winning move.

No it's Lune that is Canon:
youtube.com/watch?v=7lM8fVR_oZw

Maelle has a life to paint

Sweet erased star

Alicia has a life to paint

Verso into the night

Lune by his side

:(

This is funny though, stuff I see on social media cringier by far

How the FUCK do I get overr 9999 dmg? Bosses are basically impossible atm

Are you retarded or merely pretending as if Sciel's personality doesn't make it clear she'd cross the portal regardless of having a personal fling with Verso or not?

finish act 2

It's honestly hilarious you made up this translation and posts it as if it were true

arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/v.meta/text/JRPG gay anime aesthetic/

This is funny though

Beat Grolga

what the fuck...

when you beat act 2 you get a picto called painted power, that one lets you pull damage over 9999
learn it, set it as lumina for every character

kek

Thanks I'm retarded

American "humor"

a Japanese Role Playing Game does not need to be Japanese

I also love my First-Person Shooters not being in First-Person

Jrpgs aren't rpgs in the first place, so who cares about the j part.
It's all about the feeling.

The J stands for Incel now
Get with the times

All gay ass anime shit

Okay bro.

So what do you expect from this game at TGA realistically?

The worst part about this game is that they can get really dirty, but you can't make them take a bath. I want a hotspring/onsen in the dlc, or it's not a REAL jrpg.

RPG
Story
Voice acting
And it's the kind of pseudo indie game with enough popularity to get GOTY.

It's not Japanese, so no.

I just maxed Lune's affection and did she imply if I hadn't banged Sciel she would have done lmao?

correct
you made the wrong choice

Meant OST, not story.

is it really the greatest JRPG of all time?

nah, by far not.
its /v. you can throw /v´s taste to the trash bin.
they like it because it has, ass boring old fart combat system and they love ugly ass skelton woman that are underage.

Sciel is a hoe and puts out early. Many anons have fallen victim to her gigantic ass.

Are people really using "insists upon itself" as serious criticism? The entire joke is it doesn't mean anything.

What's with the random enemies having title drop names and special OST? Nothing comes of it

33fags everyone

Saar, do the needful pleeeeease

It gives dopamine to retards that think they're doing something special.

who knows, maybe the game was something else and they changed, it is weird Clair Obscur is just a weakass mob

33sisters…..

falling for the world's easiest bait

DLC will reveal all

It's actually the fantasy of an autistic child as he stares into a snowglobe.

kek this

will win nothing because it would ruin the narrative

Just beat it and yep it's a masterpiece that people will still be talking about for decades. You're an idiot if you think this is just some fomo, this will be looked as an example that AA is the way to go and will inspire other medium sized studios to do more ambitious games while AAA gaming just keeps shitting itself.

It's a huge love letter to JRPGs. This game isn't afraid to be whimsical, much like Squaresoft's PSX era with the Gestralts, Skie, and Monoco, while simultaneously maintaining its own identity by avoiding teenage protagonists and steering away from a plot centered on saving the world through the power of friendship and on top of that it has a sountrack that mogs anything Square and Atlus have done over the last 15 years.

pseudo indie game

I love how big studio projects have ballooned to 300+ million jeetware so the concept of "AA" doesn't exist enymore

what narrative? this has gayme awardslop bait written all over it

how do I have sex with Lune
and I dont mean in game I mean me literally IRL

take a painting class

What causes this sort of autism?

Clair obscur just means light and shadow. It's not anything super fancy, but does deal with a certain kind of art style called chiaroscuro that places heavy emphasis on the contrast between light and darkness to create a more realistic 3d depiction of something.

become WriterGOD

write her into a fanfic/roleplay/AI card

Pa*nters are not looked upon fondly here.

straight characters with strong convictions

niggers all die in the intro

no multiplayers elements

no dlcs

full game with tons of extra content

$50

it goes against the set standards of the industry, despite being award bait

I was tricked by the fat Algerian bunda...

Its boss version replaces the paintress if you come back and gives a combo attack pictos

You mean the right choice, Lune deserves better than that lying nigger.

Is this a chatGPT post?

Heed my words
Clair & Obscur are the french Biggs & Wedge and the names will pop up in every Clair Obscure game or maybe they will just always be enemies every time with no dialogue and unreasonably good OSTs and do nothing else

straight characters

Anon....

childhood vaccination

The fanbase for this game really are all bots

That's why it's so valuable for them.

so when it wins the award for biggest slop the year what are you going to say?

Does NG+ scale higher with each one you progress like in souls?

these characters who go through life and death situations surely cannot form strong bonds and behave like family who love each other

they must cleary be gay for each other

decades of retards shipping everyone with everyone has ruined your brain anon

This is funny though

Seek help

bait its good but not a masterpiece. Dont lower the threshold of what makes a masterpiece. This is the standard of what jrpgs should have been 10 years ago

YOU CANT THINK THAT IS FUNNY BECAUSE…YOU JUST HECKING CANT

normalfaggot moment

Nigga, it shits on even golden age Square.

Your are just a delusional manchild who views things through six inch thick nostalgia goggles

Worth it

Rated > Overrated > Underrated > GOATed

Yes and it doesn't stop at +7

I never got the option somehow
I turned Sciel down to get Lune but it just never happened idk

Nigger, it’s shit

fixed

it's a generic WRPG nobody will remember after a year. can't wait for Metaphor 2 though. Atlus knocked it out of the park and made a revolutionary JRPG that everyone waited for. it deserved all the awards and high scores

Yes? All of them are straight.

It won't, for the same reason the Nier Replicant remake didn't. It just can't, it will be nominated, maybe win a non relevant category, but most awards will go to some nintendo game or another AAAA blockbuster which has yet to release, like Death Stranding 2 or DOOM

Nah great game but too much holding it back. The level design in particular is really lazy, even by JRPG precedents. If you are going to abandon minimaps you can’t have your levels looking so samey from area to area, they has to be more going on visually. And you should really rely on simple, effective level design from time to time like “I’m entering a pit so I go down” or “I’m in a tower so I go up”. The Reacher should have been the latter, I have no clue why they made it the way they did when it was so obvious and would have been so effective.

Eesh, that is some hardcore copium.

slopconsoomer cope

many such cases

Don't care not playing until they remove denuvo

he never figured out the way levels communicate to the player which is the main path so they can explore all others first

Not enough yellow paint?

Truth Nuke.

there's a flag this way so I'll turn around

Worked the entire game.

I can't take this game seriously; the protagonist looks like a girl and would be by far the cutest one in the game

Lol the grappling points are exactly like yellow paint in the vast majority of levels, no need to be so smug. It doesn’t justify every area in nearly every level looking largely the same. Yes you can figure them out easily but what about a level like Old Lumiere is memorable? Be honest.

Weird you say this when E33 already beat Metaphor in sales and user scores.

but muh 1 million sales the first day

All hype, sales dropped so hard after that days after it wasn't even in the top 5 best selling games anymore.
Metaphor was one the most underwhelming releases of a japanese game in decades, so much hype around it and the end result was a flaccid attempt at a jrpg, with even less interactivity than a persona game, which not even the hot women could salvage.
On the contrary my dude, Metaphor is the game that has already been forgotten.

No anon stop you will summon him again

Its final fantasy 13 but made by the french

Will is a positive and complex thinking royal Shota Chad in a world where the big majority of people are easily corrupted sociopaths. I respect him

Hulkenberg's hank hill ass is a fucking tragedy.

it's a jrpg for people who hate jrpgs and most of Anon Babble is normalfags so of course it gets praised

unreal slop written by faggots n woman

I am usually a contrarian when everyone starts glazing a game but this time I am legitimately floored by what I have experienced

I like both :)

But in itself it's a love letter to jrpgs made by devs who love jrpgs.
It simply can be liked by people who normally dislike because of stuff like the anime aesthetics and nip humor.

la petite mort avec lune

grappling points

Who mentioned those? Guess that meants you never figured out the right path in every level is always illuminated with lamps or torches? What a shame

love letter to jrpgs

paid post

Games CAN be good, it just doesn't happen enough.

paid post

paid defamator

If you are feeling like effortposting I'd like to read what you thought of it

Yeah. It's a shame seeing how in the beta builds she used to have a decent butt. I think Atlus felt the pressure of people in the west and censored all girls in the game in some form or another. The American Woke virus has been infecting Japan for years now

The game is filled to references to classic jrpgs like the psx ffs.
It even has a race of funny not-animals that act like the blue mage of the party.

I got filtered because its all cinematics and dialogue and "press X!" and braindead combat where youre watching the game, more than playing the game

I loathe moviegames with a burning passion. THIS is not what gaming was supposed to be!

this doesnt cover all the people who pirated these games. your data is skewed and fake

delete that

Chrono Trigger
FF9
Undertale

I don't know about the other 6 but these 3 are definitely amongst the top 10.

JRPGs are a boring ass genre in general where you're forced to play as a bunch of trope-filled pussies. JRPG parties are not characters, they are made of archtypes. Even your favorites like Auron or whatever are interchangeable tropes. I finally tried Baldur's Gate 1 in 2019 and discovered what actual choices and decisive gameplay looks like. That's a real RPG. E33 is definitely a step up from the usual basic ass FF shit which are repetitive and dated af. Sorry for the truth.

look up 9 jrpgs

That's a real RPG.

your party in bg1 barely has a personality.

Hulke's ass is also pretty inconsistent desu. It looks good in the 2D scenes and in certain in-game cutscenes, but really flat during gameplay. Well. The mods can easily fix it.

exactly.
imagine thinking that some unreal slop written by french faggots come anywhere near the levels of Hashinos masterpiece.

Even if that were true, which it isn't, the gameplay is way more engaging than "three niggas in a row" or whatever.

it’s diegetic so it’s good

It’s better but it doesn’t mean the level design is good.

As a HulkenburgChad, E33 blows Metaphor away, and I have a difficult time believing anyone who's played both to completion thinking otherwise.
Metaphor simply has too many flaws and falls into the same tired Atlus formula. Louis also flopped as a villain in the end, especially with how blatantly unfinished the last portion of the game felt.

Undertale

i'm not a fan of the Unreal art design, too... generic.

it’s diegetic so it’s good

Glad you got it

2/10 bait. bonus points for trying and posting cute hulke art (even if you downloaded it 5 minutes ago purely for the sake of seeming legit)

how do you innovate turn-based combat in JRPGs and make it more fun or exciting?

on the flipside, for real-time RPGs, how does adding turn-based mechanics make the game more fun and exciting?

The thing I think it does better than any game I've ever seen is characterization. The characters are "revealed" through the things they experience rather than through dialogue. It reminds me more of a really good novel than anything else. There's no beating you over the head with any of the character's personalities. Gustave and Maelle are probably the two best examples and there's not much spoiling for later for these two

With Gustave I was actually genuinely irritated by his character for a while. He has a stick up his ass and refuses to stop and think about what he is going to do next. There's the scene where Lune is trying to convince him they need to be careful before going after Maelle. He is just totally hardheaded and refuses to listen to reason, following emotion only. The moment when I realized that this was a legitimately great story was when the very last thing Gustave does is agree to stop for a second with Maelle to throw "one more stone" instead of insisting that they keep moving as fast as possible with no time to rest. It was a subtle change in his personality that they had established already.

Maelle's character is great because even though she's obviously overpowered and they hint at the "chosen one" cliche for much of the game, they still managed to write her as a teenage girl who is subjected to emotional devastation and responds exactly like a teenage girl who is not equipped to handle what is happening. It's almost like a subversion of the modern, stoic female main character that we see everywhere now where the woman is invulnerable and knows everything

VATS is fun

you just copy Bravely Default

I could go into greater specific details if you want, but you'd just deny it anyway.
Do yourself a favor, and actually play both games.

Bravely Default's mechanics are just a shittier Octopath, though.

Chrono Cross is amazing and better than Trigger sometimes

Stop it anon. You are way too brutal. Have mercy for the French bois. Let them have at least one thing.

Maelle as a character completely dies after Act 2. There is nothing to indicate Alicia experienced 16 years as an orphan whose adoptive guardian died defending her. She acts exactly like you would expect a teenage invalid girl would behave in her circumstance, with none of the personality of her last life.

She says she has the memories of both childhoods. Not that I disagree, but she does have the memories. Still stupid she forgives Verso though

i feel the exploration aspect could have been done better. ended up saving most of it until after i'd beaten the game at which point it feels somewhat pointless

Possibly true. snoy might consider outsourcing an LOD remake to some random studio now and tell them to make it like E33. Its not like snoy has totally forgot about LOD or anything as Mark Cerney even said LOD is his favourite game ever and Shuhei Yoshida on twitter compared E33 to Legend of Dragoon. So its not a totally forgotten thing.

love the combat and build crafting. a shame it all dies mid act 2 when you are just 9999 everything, and in act you're just one shotting everything. kinda sad because it's amazing until then
music great, varied, different, always appropriate
characters are adults, natural, human. not the tired highschoolers and tropes of jrpgs
cutscenes, dialogue, everything feels natural and like it respects your intelligence
exploration and environments are amazing. everytime you think youre done with a zone you discover a little corner with some item or even hidden boss
really just an addictive, hard to stop playing, engaging game
the last time I felt this way was ffx
and no, I do not play regular jrpgs, I am not a fucking virgin

not the tired highschoolers

Why do so many people say this after all the great classics (game or anime) starred by teenagers?

UUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LUNE SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

It's not the greatest JRPG of all time. It's the greatest videogame ever conceived, period.

jesus it's an artform

Its woke but Anon Babble likes it for some reason

brownoids still seething at French BASED KINO

you love to see it

What would you do if you could Paint, anon?

Trannies still trying to astroturf this game for their side after calling it a chud game on release

EVERY
SINGLE
TIME

accidentally make a Jay RPG better than Jay

Gomen-nasai

Paint a reality similar to ours and go into the canvas and paint over myself as a submissive dumb horny fat titty bimbo whore and get fucked everyday (no homo).

The trannies are also using the game to bash on JRPGs and declaring it the best game of all time

These people cant be real..

Sex with the Pope

Obviously escape to some bullshit hyper autistic fantasy world of catgirl waifus and shit. Are you stupid?

I'm 38 I'm not playing a game that takes place in a highschool with some angsty protag, why can't you weebs understand that

your loss, grandpa

But you will spend your time arguing on Anon Babble being an autistic manchild. Because that's far less sad. Grow up.

Yet you cared enough to check out this game even with all the JRPG marketing. You're a coward.

Agnes

when you have HER in your party

obvious false flag operation. Im sure that thread was pruned.

Play turn based games to relax

Have to parry more in one area than I ever had to in all my Elden Ring playthroughs and with tighter timing too

K lol, story mode here I go

It's not a JRPG but it is GOTY and you are a faggot.

How the fuck is E33 perfect when Sciele is an awful dog shit character with sad bait and Lune is a huge fucking annoying bitch. Yeah sure both are believable but doesn't mean they're good written characters. I honestly think game would be better without them. Compelling characters huh... for the most part sure.

Story is a banger though. Not perfect but incredible anyway. I wish Renoir 1 was around for more he was kino

I grew up with jrpgs and still love them and E33 indeed is unique.
The combat system with parry dodge. No mana system and Estus flasks keeps it fun and challenging. We finally got open world jrpg back.. it's been since ff9 basically unless you play tales of games and some others.
Characters all have a different gimmick. Easiest example is Maelle is essentially a Slay the Spire character [the watcher] and uses stances. Everyone has a gimmick.

It's legit really good. 9.5 easily imo

It's not a jrpg

Kind of a plot hole alicia isn’t gommaged at the end of act 2

Isn't she same deal as fake verso?

As an smt nocturnefag about to buy this game, what will i think of it?

denegerate game
youtube.com/watch?v=EbWeE2JLAlY

it's the greatest this gen

chrono trigger will never be beaten, it's literally a perfect game

No it's not. Renoir only Gommages Aline's creations. This is why the Gestrals aren't effected by the gommage because they were created by Verso, not Aline
Maelle gets gommaged because she is a creation of Aline, but that doesn't erase Alicia. All Renoir is doing is basically cleaning up the paint from Alicia

Painted Alicia I mean. Definitely an Aline creation.

do brown "people" unironically watch this boring tranny?

I liked it alot but game balance is pretty fucked with how easy it is to break and the entire ending choices rely entirely on the family being unable to somehow hide the painting away. pretty good but not the greatest of all time, only people saying that are genre tourists playing this game because it has the aesthetics of a western AAA game

He can't gommage them because Aline made them immortal. Same reason why Painted Renoir and Verso aren't effected
Even after Aline gets booted from the Canvas, the painted versions still maintain their immortality. Verso comments on it when he enters the final room with Verso's canvas. Normally he would fade away but his immortality keeps him alive

The real question is why Maelle and the Curator could erase Painted Renoir, but maybe the two of them were enough

All Time? No. However, best RPG in like the last 10 years of nothing but "modern gaming" slop? Abso-fucking-lutely

You're being a little dramatic but I honestly dont get when people say they are well written characters. Like just because they're not obvious with emotions and regurgitating exposition every few minutes doesn't mean they are well written.They aren't BAD characters but I literally won't remember them in a year

A piece of lead is pretty when it's surrounded by nothing but shit.

How am I being dramatic if you agree.
Verso Maelle I'll remember and Monoco. Sciele from day one I was like wtf is this Indian bitch supposed to do in the story?
Lune had HELLA potential and just fizzles out in the story completely desu.

I grieve for the cutiepie that was OG maelle before she got overwritten by that insufferable cunt alicia

Not even the best one in the past 10 months

The characters being highschoolers makes no fucking difference in most JRPGs.

It's just so you can have a lot of wildly different characters in one place without having to explain why they aren't at work instead of fighting bad guys

No the story is fucking awful, I have never seen a story with such a jarring disconnect between the first act and the rest of the story.

Yahtzee liked it.

Yahtzee is a retard who sucks at video games

It was somehow disconcerting how quickly Sciel and Lune stop being relevant in Act II

Our drafts collide
In this endless light
But it’s time to say goodbye
Until Next Life

Are you guys feeling a bit like wee or a bit like woo?

Woo I hate my life

It's been very long since there was any wee in the world.

get on vr

whee

get off vr

whoo

we all need an esquie in our lives

Just beat the game and I gotta say I'm feeling pretty whoo right now

This game is making me feel both. But knowing there's still games out there that can do that makes me lean toward wee

Achievment percentages consistently high in Act 1 and 2

Only 15% finished the game

Act 3 is certified shit

Japanese people cannot make good jrpgs. Japanese stole "jrpgs" from wizardry and ultima

Japs can only copy never innovate

Act 1 is 9/10
Act 2 is 8/10
Act 3 is 7/10

Act 3 is clearly unfinished, and the balance is horrible. Not sure what the point of going from doing 9,999 damage to doing 10 million+ damage within the span a few hours was.

Most people are doing endgame content. The Act 3 achievement is literally just a single small area and bossfight

Act 1 is a 7/10
Act 2 is a 9.5/10
Act 3 is a 9/10

I'm in a bit of a whee whoo situation rn

Its good but it lacks SOUL. If the modern video game industry wasn't such a joke, this game would have been swept away like many JRPGs were during the golden age.

Try to explore after Act 2

DANGER DANGER DANGER fuck you for exploring

Guess I will just head for the Eiffel Tower

explore in Act 3

75% of the areas are empty with 1 item to pick up

there's no reason to wee in this woo of an earth

Try the Reacher. I think it's the easiest Act 3 area

The fact that this is a french game and it's not chock full of negroes makes me really suspicious.

they kill off all the black people in the first 30 minutes

Lune’s area is probably doable at your level even if it says danger

are we sure it isn't a Belgian game?

just arrived in Act 3
this game is awesome

wtf this game has too many browns

game comes out with no browns

wtf where are all the browns?

what a pitiable life this is

what kind of soul do you think it lacks? Genuine question

Be real with me, i'm on expert and if i took 5 tries to beat clea and 2 for painted love how much will simon rinse me

Metaphor is absolute trash, one of the worst jarpig ever released, please kill yourself

And to all faggots in this thread, E33's writing isn't good, it's simply decent

simon will absolutely body you, it's why most are opting to figure out a way to oneshot the fight.

who is painted love? The lampmaster guy?

got verso’s ultimate weapon

it rapes your framerate after using the AoE multihit attack in an encounter

Is the Simoso after image framedrop something they can patch or am I just cucked out of using this?

So have I but it's the exact opposite for me. I no longer care about the story now that I know everything is a dream and nothing matters.

inb4 uhh akshully it's a painting and not a dream :^)

Literally the exact same thing.

He's not hard if you explored everywhere.
If you use Maëlle with Stendhal you absolutely smashes him but without her Verso has a luck reliant build with Sciel and the followup skill that can win you the fight

royal knife eared wife

That montage of Maelle with the speech of her mom and the acapella was pretty amazing. What a fucking downard turn it was when having the power of the painter completely handed to you like it's just another picto trivializes the rest of the game.

Dreams aren’t magic

I hate it when I run out of dream juice and I need to fight other people in the same dream for control of the dream juice

It's like 2 people playing with puppets, who fucking cares man.
What a giant letdown.

his attacks are a clusterfuck of animations and followups with some absolute bullshit mechanics sprinkled on top. I cheesed the fuck out of him with a permastun comp

It's brings me great joy to see atlusfags still seething over their inability to win goty even after their company sold out and stopped making porn VNs in an attempt to get a mainstream audience that never showed up.

i think I agree with this. I don't even mind tons of optional content with ability to shatter enemies apart, it reminds me of FFX but even worse. My Maelle is literally one shotting 'super bosses'. Even my Verso does billions. I love min maxing so it was fun for a while especially considering act 1 and 2 were actually hard on expert for me. But I think the fun's over, and I should go finish the game. In a way it's actually ludo as fuck desu.

unironically Nier Automata was 'copy my homework but don't make it too obvious' but the entire plot. I don't mind it, they really did try to make it not too obvious, but Nevrons are machines and instead of woah we're androids or woah we're Gestalts from og Nier it's woah we're all fake.

But it hits harder in Nier because the argument is stronger. Androids can be as human as any human. But in E33 it's moreso; you guys ARE fake and literally just people in some painting so stfu. Gestrals are fucking childhood toys rofl. I felt so bad for Monoco, probably not in the way the author intended, but you are LITERALLY a stuffed toy my guy. RIP

Well it hits harder because Nier isn't a work of fiction inside some other, bigger work of fiction
This is already 2 steps down the fantasy fake people stairway and the deeper we go the less I care.

yeah I agree with you, it was better in Nier. and also Nier did it most recently. I have to knock points off for how much this game copied Nier in general. I get it, the game is great. But Gestrals are literally machines even down to their personalities, themes and arcs. You've got a couple "why was I designed to kill" nevrons just like machines, and you've got peaceful ones etc. But they're all simple minded, 'cute' and humorous, just like Nier! The Paintress are the aliens too, a mid game twist where the big bad is revealed to be no longer plot relevant. The writer was found from reddit and you can LITERALLY tell

I ruined the game for myself
whent to that danger snow level in act 2 and just parried until I beat one of the encounters. gained a bunch of levels and op pictos and a lvl 20 weapon. Everything else became ez as fuck after

Its not a JRPG but it is one of the best turn based RPGs, yes

Same but it was kino because of that anyway, and start of Act 3 you'd wish you got that place done anyway because the game expects you to go find a place to farm 20+ weapons and levels. The ice mountain clearly isn't meant to be act 3 content anyway, the final boss didn't even have that much hp compared to trash mobs in act 3

Why does every single game need to have parry mechanics now

denial = alicia/aline anger = clea, bargaining = renoir, depression = alicia/aline, and acceptance = verso ending

BRAVO FROGDEBS, BRAVO!

I feel like my only complain about the game is the grind / post game isnt this multi part side quest enough that would be worth writing a whole gamefaqs about
like ff7/ff8/ffx I think excel at making you find X (chocobo, etc) so you can find Y so you can beat Z so he can drop the item that lets you kill A so you can finally kill B and then finally the megaboss

but here the only "key" thing is really going over the damage limit, and you get that automatically

E33 is ultimately about grief, depression, and 'shutting yourself off from the world'

so is xenoblade 2.

so is cry of fear

Frozen Hearts at the start of Act 3 is pretty much perfect (lots of upgrade materials), and then heading to Dark Shores whenever you feel underleveled. Someone needs to put together an order for Act 3 dungeon content that is optimal for the best progression without getting to overpowered.

Based

Which is funny because BG1's encounter design is fucking terrible, especially compared to Icewind Dale, Planescape, and Fallout.

unironically the ghestrals, have more culture, depth and thought put into them than entire worlds in these games.

Maybe not literally but in execution it's not even close, character acting is so important, having audio ques for them and so on, it goes so far in making them fleshed out.

The world actually feels fleshed out, character acting and animations go a long way, there's no substance in two characters passionately staring at each other in this game, then in the emotional climax of any jrpg after 100 hours

japanese game animation work is so phoned in, it's quite pathetic next to this game

absolutely but they had 20 more years of tech and progression to accomplish that, that's the problem with the old jrpgs, if we're being honest not many hit the same today. Chrono trigger is the best example of a jrpg that isnt compromised by lack of tech/budget.

its dogshit, and the animations or rahter lack their of is just embarassing compared to this game

Maybe in your head

metaphor has no excuse, i have like 150 hours in that game and I can't tell you fuck all about the different "races" all i can remember is the human shit, it's all so undercooked and the delivery is so bad. The differences are completely arbitrary, there's nothing memorable or interesting or clever about any of it.
While I found myself talking to every single NPC out of pure curiosity in expedition 33, JRPGs you have to force yourself not to spam A or X on all dialogue, it's genuinely embarrassing

On executuon alone expedition 33 is better than every assest flipped boring ass jrpg ever made.

I think most games just fail to get you interested in the world enough to care about NPC dialogue and audio logs.
I was actually interested in finding out what happened to the other expeditions so I listened to every single one.

what do i play now

Todd calls.

It's not a jrpg. dark souls is also not a wrpg.

Moon Remix RPG Adventure

rpg village

except 3 npcs with 1 line and 1 with a quest

ghestral village

like at least 20 different ones each with a funny thing, mini quest, etc

this game just had effort. they were simply never lazy

I've been in E33 threads all day today.
Why is Anon Babble so utterly BTFO by some frog game?

Come one, E33 has just one city, they could afford to put effort there

how do you innovate turn-based combat in JRPGs and make it more fun or exciting?

Look at what the recent SaGa games are trying to do. No, not the RS2 remake.

carai eu vo acaba jogano esse game mano

RPG

Writting

OST

VO - maybe

GOTY - No game so far can compete, but there is still 6 months left

Best Indie *

Best Indie Debut *

*They may choose not to nominate this game as Indie for *reasons* (reasons being that they want to shill their friends rng slop Blue Prince)