So this game really fucking sucked right? What happened with that?

So this game really fucking sucked right? What happened with that?

pits emblem

not alear OP

little engagie ragie

So this game really fucking sucked right?

It didn't, try actually playing it next time

i did play it and its terrible
sorry lil bro

this "gayme" fucking sucks.
faggots love to suck this "gayme" cock

agreed

Manakete feet

"playing it" is the worst part about the game anon... it has a reasonably interesting setting and characters, but anything related to gameplay is at best a slog.

Wait for the performance update
My dream: S2 version not only improvements but also adding the removed contents such as Felix vs Dimitri fight

Heh I liked it a lot.
My main issue is people have set this game as the gold standard and now we wont hear the end of it whenever an FE isn't literally 3 Houses 3 (2 if you dont count Hopes).
I didn't mind the replays because NG+ and I made sure to not recruit many units outside the house (Like 1 rep from each house including the church and the wolves) so each run was fresh somewhat.
The recycled maps did suck.
Fates was so great with it routes so I hate whiny bitches angry at it while sucking up 3H botched 3 route system.

wake up Shez we have a world to save

It gave us years of schizos, simps and shitposters yelling at eachother
That alone makes it a good game

It's the best Fire Emblem.

Highest grossing besides FEH
Engayge is where the sales fucking tanked because it's complete shit

repeating the monastery sections blew but the rest of it was okay

Mentioning Edelgard in any thread was guaranteed seething replies in bulk.
The Emblem that brought us all together

indeed, FEH and 3H are the best games in the series as proven by their stellar sales! incidentally my favorite movies of all time are Avenger's Endgame, Avatar, Avatar: the way of water, and Titanic

Both 3H and Engage sucked. We need to go back to the gba era.

we're never getting sprites back anon. focus groups are too fucking retarded to allow it.

It was nothing but shitposting, mental illness and rage bait but sometimes... I miss it.

Fire Emblem doesn't have a giant fanbase like Marvel

Fire Emblem didn't have the ridiculous marketing that Avatar did

Fire Emblem isn't a global meme like Titanic

FEH being a gacha is fucking obvious as to why it's their highest grossing

Awakening revived the series because it WAS a great game, conquest/birthright didn't do as well because it was fucking weird shit and brought the momentum down.
Three Houses didn't have any prior setup to make a failed game and financial success, it sold well because it was a great game.
Now go back to your tranny game with toothpaste retard that killed the franchise for good.

It gave us best girl and caused such levels of waifuism that her fans made an epilogue for her route.

fans made an epilogue for her route.

u wot m8

bro really doubling down on the "sales=quality" argument

sendo.itch.io/emerald-dawn
I don't see Edelgard getting this treatment.

whomst is this brown mamkute

Could have just not replied to let me know you've got nothing

That looks like porn

To settle this matter now and forever

Edelgard

5k results

Rhea

1k results

Gelbooru never lies

Quality over quantity.

I fucking love my grandmadaughter so fucking much she deserves octuplet correction, repeatedly

She's a minor side character from Atelier Ayesha (which has the same lead artist as FE: Echoes)

Why should i bother, you're entire argument is built on the faulty premise that only good things sell well. there's no real point in trying to reason with you.
Calling you a retarded faggot is a far more productive use of my time than trying to educate you.

She simply isn't as well liked.
Deal with it
Fairly sure Edelgards route is also the most played as well

STOOOPID DWAGON

I completed one route and thought that it was OK, which in terms of Fire Emblem makes it one of the better ones.
I have no idea how anyone had the will the complete all 3 routes, the monastery and teaching parts were such a fucking slog, just let me play the fucking game instead of all the other bullshit.

I hate how the first half and a few more post-timeskip chapters of the game are the same repetitive slogfest with a few minor deviations in dialogue and at best two different paralogues.

They should've just provided a feature similar to Branch of Fate where if you reach the chapter where Edelgard reveals the truth in the holy tomb that it will save your progress and difficulty but allows you to choose between the different houses.

you're entire argument is built on the faulty premise that only good things sell well

Your entire argument is built on the faulty premise that good things don't sell well
I clearly stated why Three Houses wasn't like anything you mentioned and the state of the franchise at its release explaining why Three Houses wouldn't have sold well if it was a bad game.
You are the retard repeating the same thing over and over again.

You just use NG+ to buy all your progress back so you dont have to do any monastery shit unless you're using different units or changing it up you mong

Fire Emblem Three Houses

one major problem is that the maps suck. if the maps suck, in a video game (or table top RPG) like this, everything else suffers. the maps aren't the only problem. everything you interact with to play the game has problems:

the monastery takes too long to move around.

the loading times are too long because of underpowered hardware.

there are few things more tiresome than a game that actively wastes your time AND it's a poor game, or a flawed one, at the same time.

tactics are pigeon holed because of stat imbalance between the players units and the AI units, and the bad map design.

when there's an optimal way of play that the game ushers you into playing because of poor design, in a game in a subgenre like this, you have a big fucking problem. It completely kills any replay value at all except for the biggest fanboys or autists.

the game's story was a victim of feature creep. (and bad writing)

they had one story planned like many previous fire emblem games, then they went overboard and kept adding shit. Who fucking knows if the first story they planned to tell was any good?
Fates showed that the current IS, (even Awakening had a poor 3 act structure,) cannot handle telling multiple stories or designing maps in a single game, while maintaining high quality throughout the game.

Unfortunately, Intelligent Systems has been financially rewarded for their recent low quality video games. (Just like many undeserving game devs and other media producers in recent times.) Which in turn results in more low quality works of art because they know they don't have to try as hard as someone else facing real scrutiny might have to,

**Because the audience they've fostered has no or low standards.**

You still need to grind monastery shit for the different support conversations between the units.

unless you're using different units or changing it up you mong

Which if you're doing the three routes you definitely are?

you didn't explain anything, you just said "game that sells well is good, game that sells less well isn't good". Hell you weren't even right about the information you spread, considering Fates outsold awakening.

Personally I like Rhea more and that's the only thing that matters

bla bla bla bla
What's your deal mate? Indian? You sure argue like an indian.
Can't imagine anyone else being this fucking braindead and obnoxious.

I am just a mirror to your true self anon. I'm only responding to you with the same level of thought you put into your posts.

Based.

heavily pushed poster girl is more popular then a background character with a single support line and basically no screentime in part two outside of the one route where's conviently insane and evil

Hmm... I wonder why...

That's because contrarian posters are always a good engagement bait. Without them, most threads on Anon Babble die. It also works as filter to know who really played the game and who are larping.

No?
You recruit the units you like, in any route
At most you should have like 2 new units that need to catch up
If you go with a full team of freshlings you deserve to slave away for them, thats on you

Because she's clearly not as good.
Lysithea has twice as much as Rhea

based, fates is the best. I had 370 hours in it myself and it hurts we'll never get another game with gameplay as tight as conquest.

FUCK the ninja fort

three houses for switch 2 enhanced edition with special route where everyone is friends again and nothing bad happens

membef when people said fates was bad

Cutesythea

I just want a proper church route with Rhea as the lord instead of the absolute mess that is Silver Snow

the rape cave? I want to say I hate it, but looking back it was a fucking fun map.

when the fourth wave of reinforcements arrives

It's the only FE I've played. What makes it worse than other FEs?

Worst part is that I almost completed it multiple times only for a bullshit 1-2% crit to fucking land and it's back to the start
Absolute aids

Terrible map design for starters, that and the social sim elements with the monastery get old fast.

It's the only FE I HAVEN'T played, and apart from the allegedly awful gameplay, it looks like absolute ass and nothing like an FE game at all. Looking at screenshots of it gives me a serious 'wtf is this shit??' feeling.

Make the church route the only route where Jeralt survives the stabbing so that he becomes a divine beast at the final map for Byleth to slaughter. Making it a mandatory boss kill as well

Rhea being batshit insane and evil is the best part of Crimson Flower though. While i like her character and wish she got more to do in her own route, like actually being playable. Her going completely off the deep end in the way she does is what makes her interesting. Rhea works because she has a dark side.

Also her VA is really good at playing both kind pope Rhea and batshit insane vengeful dragon Rhea.

I want that + longer Crimson flower. Also Jeralt as a jagen.

the monastery is extremely tedious to go through in between maps. the actual gameplay of the series gets sidelined for 30 minutes - 2 hours on your first playthrough, every time you return to the monastery, if you actually try to engage with the game and it's setting.
it adds the skills you can choose to use at anytime from the remake of Gaiden. Why let your unit fight normally if you can spam a better skill?
bad maps.
a painfully obvious rushed story that, by the devs own admission, was split into four routes when they originally intended to tell only one story or one route. this was right after Fire Emblem Fates suffered from the exact same issue with it's story.

What Fire Emblem game is the worst?

Hard mode: Pick something from GBA onwards.

I FORGIVE HER

your favourite game

Engage or Three Houses.

genea-

hard mode

fe8

ANOOOOOOON STOP THINKING WITH YOUR SILVER LANCE AND START THINKING WITH YOUR WIS

Would Lys even be popular if she didn't have crest cancer pity arc?

Absolutely

RD

anon she's a tsun loli. of course she's going to be popular.

I like both

The completely sane answer
There's liking both, like one or the other and then there's needing to shit on one every time you mention the other.
Last category is mental illness

Revelations.
If that doesn't count, then FE6/3H

They are the same person, ironically.

Lysithea is a brat with a attitude, the overpowered mage unit who can abuse Nosferatu tanking, is the dedicated meme killer of the Black Knight through Dark Spikes T grinding, has a personal skill that makes the class and proficiency farming easier in a grinding game with monastery chores, a must-have for NG maddening playthroughs, Thyrsus doubles her efficiency in Magic shenanigans.

Also like the other anon said, she's a tsundere in a Nintendo-exclusive title, which sells like hotcake.

Sucked so hard that Engayge flopped massively because everyone was disgusted by Edelgard resulting in Engayge killing off the franchise for good.

nice bait desu

it's SHIT

try actually playing it

Babymaking sex with dragon hags

Being near Alm gives Faye a flat 20% buff in Hit and Crit rate

Enemies also get a 20% hit rate buff because she disregards her own safety

Why aren't they making more unique support bonuses that relate to the characters like that one?

this. all dragon hags should have at least a thousand children.

Louis gets buffed when two women are within 2 spaces of him

Chloe gets buffed when a man and a women are within two spaces of her

Framme, Clanne, and Vander all get buffs for being next to Alear

that's basically what Engage personal skills were. (and it sucked)

Dragons bad

Turning Rhea into a baby factory while Edelgard watches
She has to witness every single birth and lovemaking session

wait is engage actually good? I skipped it because 3H was shit

Gameplay is a huge step up, story is back to the standard FE fare and the character designs are middle of the road at best

story is back to the standard FE fare

Is it at least as good as 7 and 8?

Nah, it's more Awakening or maybe Birthright tier

if the gameplay is good then I'll play it, thanks downloading now

Awakening

So, like, half of the plot is filler.

Birthright

I never played fates. I should, frankly.

Birthrights story is the best of the bunch, but that's not saying much when both Conquest and Revelation are absolute trainwrecks

Honestly, I would say it's about on the same level as FE8 story wise. The problem isn't really that it's 'bad' per se, it's just not very fleshed out, and it has some awkward moments due to 3D environment that the writing used to not have to really deal with in games where the story presented in 2D. At the same time, it has some really good moments too, especially ones that tie into the gameplay on the map and make it extra enjoyable.

Adrestes Eunt Domus.

I quite liked 8 storywise, mostly because of Lyon being the only retread of Hardin that actually worked, as well as the general solid and fun cast. So, this is honestly a positive.

what are you talking about, a trainwreck is fun to watch, Birthright's story doesn't even have that going for it, it's so by the numbers and straightforward with nothing interesting about it. it's the literary equivalent of staring at a field.
Birthright's story is by far the worst of the three, made even worse by the fact that the Hoshido side of the cast are all really uninteresting compared to the Nohr side.

yeah, some of the scenes like Ivy talking to Diamant in her introduction are really awkward and would probably have been fine if it had been presented like the GBA games did similar scenes.

It was good.

Engage was dogshit.

almost 10 years since Fates

we still don't know who the mysterious dancer was

Which handled "Playing as the bad guy" better, Fates or Three Houses?

which fire emblem does faggots like to give fellatio?

Kinda sad that this wasn't a accessory option for her in fates. Looks infinitely better than the regular one.

I think it's a decent game carried by the story the writer's managed to write the game in a way that each side feels justified in their actions so it has enough depth that everyone who plays it will have a different opinion on who's "right"

They're both bad in their own right

Fates

just do what the baddie wants you to while whining about it

TH

make the dwagon go insane and evil to pretend your genocide crusade is good and righteous

Anankos on paper and in the DLC is actually pretty well portrayed. Edelgard's motivation was decent but her going fuck it in regards to morality and employing the beats despite knowing what they are made of undermines a lot of her characteristics. The melodrama speech after her defeat especially sucks ass.

Engage is mechanically and visually the best looking Fire Emblem. The story is trash but it's kind of innofensive. It's just that comic of every fire emblem ever taken literally. I would check it out, the battle animations seriously look like the GBA games in full 3D.

i started learning febuilder and first thing i did was make my self insert oc and give him a 20 mt brave unbreakable nosferatu tome
i am a master of game design

that blue hair..uses a lance..wait, is it OBORO??

professor let me suck your cock

3h has one of the worst garbage i read.
did a teenager wrote this shit?

calm down kaga

dont forget...

change classes at school

betray my country and kill my friends

kek

to pretend your genocide crusade is good and righteous

I am very tempted to make a Anon Babble joke here, but I'll stop myself.

Frankly, I can respect them just for not making Dmitri a obvious heel like he is during Silver Snow and Verdant Wind. Rhea going off the deep end is glorious to behold.

Edelgard's motivation was decent but her going fuck it in regards to morality and employing the beats despite knowing what they are made of undermines a lot of her characteristics.

The slithers, while not a inherently bad idea, are honestly kind of a mistake. It says something that two routes pretty much ignore their existence and are arguably stronger for it. If they could have worked it would have been as starter antagonist, basically the Dong Zhou of the story.

I want a remake of it in the future but with the ones who did 3hopes.

To be fair, the amount of the cast that are genuinly loyal to their country can be counted on one hand.

This. It parallels to Edelgards being batshit insane and evil in Azure Moon.
Seeing what both of hem are like going off the deep end is good.
It makes seeing them both as heroes in their respective routes even better.

3kek

lol. THATS EVEN WORST
WTF WERE THEY THINKING

so if you recruit lords of houses like sylvain or ferdinand do their holdings also come with

thinking on it, not many units have real loyalties to their countries. more so they're loyal to their families living in said countries. or in Leonie's case, they're loyal to who pays most since she's basically gunning to be a merc.

Listen, not every character has dev backing for not just the main game but the spin-off.
Maybe in the future they should just write for that character instead of pretending to write multiple routes when they clearly didn't want to.

3h is the worst thing fe writing. its even worst than engage and fates

went from "le funny upside down dude" to "let's kill the pope to see what happens lmao"

BACK IN MY DAY WE HIRED THE LOCAL RETARD WITH AN AXE FOR OUR ARMY AND WE LIKED IT

Remember the cut content from Azure Moon where Felix and Annette were able to defect if you cave in to Dimitri's demands of bloodlust?

This had so much more potential. I mean Edelgard's crusade alone has so much leeway to this type of gameplay.

wasn't that revealed to be Marth all along?

As long as the Agarthan fight is playable then it'd take it.
Being able to deploy Byleth, Rhea, Seteth, and Flayn in the moleman base would be sick.

Probably the only one I genuinly question is Ferdinand.

What I hated most in 3H was how many classes were gender locked, and most of the ones I wanted to use were female only

muh let me suck your cock professor even though im underage

Back in the day you sent the protags wife to seduce men into joining and everyone was okay with it.
These days you cant even have womanizers (Sylvain doesn't count. He hates women).

Edelgard's motivation was decent but her going fuck it in regards to morality and employing the beats despite knowing what they are made of undermines a lot of her characteristics

completely disagree. her "i need to change things, by any means necessary" is one of the better parts of her character. She's already resolved to carve a bloody path through Fodlan for her goal, her whinging about the morals of crest beasts would be really fucking weird at that point.

To be sure. Would be great if, say, killing Claude actually had some major consequences. They could even have a very organic system where causing certain people to become friends might cause them to defect.

I think the main reason why they generally didn't do that was because they expected players would get mad. Which, much though I hate to admit it, they were probably correct.

yeah he seems awfully patriotic. don't think Ferdinand should b able to defect, but he is. admittedly it's not easy to make him defect, as u can only build C support with him in pt 1 and most byleth builds dont favor the skills he wants.

Marth would have killed all 3 houses (and his own men) just to get the secret ending while Kris watches

Back in the day you sent the protags wife to seduce men into joining and everyone was okay with it.

Caede is honestly one of my favorite girls because of that. Women is fucking shameless.

If I remember correctly, Three Hopes actually agrees since he's exclusive to the Empire route.

she's just willing to do "anything" to help Marth win the war, if that's not true love, what is?

Kill Claude

Get access to funds and the Route-exclusive relics, no assistance from Almyra in form of ally units, different paralogue

Spare Claude

Get ally units as fodder, increased funds.

It's that simple really.

Adding a risk to benefit ratio that complements story-related reasons is something that the average player isn't get mad for. I mean Shadow Dragon gave you a choice between recruiting one unit while the other gets decimated, pointedly ignoring the playable prologue in which you were forced to sacrifice a unit for Marth's escape to underline the severity of the situation.

Even Fates had such a minor deviation choice where you could either cave in to Corrin's peace driven methods and recruit Shura or slaughter him once for his family's safety and getting them boots.

Or what about the "Unit turns Enemy" instances in Radiant Dawn because of Family Reasons? While they might not be favored, they are good additions in light of the characters.

fact: it was better then Engage

EVERYBODY'S HERE

Alear Flayn is the most cursed shit

Then let's say, make her route the bloodiest one. Mandatory unit sacrifices. Remember the 2nd battle at gronder fields where if you don't recruit Bernadetta she ends up in a tower that Edelgards sets aflame for tactical benefits? Let the player do it.

Obviously shit changes if you get affected by it.

BOOO WE WANT MARK

Adding a risk to benefit ratio that complements story-related reasons is something that the average player isn't get mad for.

I want to believe you are correct. Though I also have a pretty low expectation of your average player.

I mean Shadow Dragon gave you a choice between recruiting one unit while the other gets decimated, pointedly ignoring the playable prologue in which you were forced to sacrifice a unit for Marth's escape to underline the severity of the situation.

To be fair, wasn't that really hated?

Honestly that just made fighting her even more worth it.
She was deadset on claiming there was no other option and she made sure to remove any other option from the table.
She wanted a fight and got it!

Then let's say, make her route the bloodiest one

Isn't it already the bloodiest one? Especially if you don't recruit much.

This is the Fire Emblem Warriors I want

As in let the players kill off their own units for story reasons.

It's my favorite map in the game. I like it more than ch 10, even

I forget Bernie gets cordially invited to Edelgard's bbq in that chapter if she goes unrecruited. doesn't she have some screechy dialogue about it too?

Didn't mean to quote this. Whatever I just like ch 17

it was my wife

Bernadetta: Wish I could've at least died at home...not in this big, stupid field...

Edelgard: Bernadetta, thank you. I'll make sure your life was not lost in vain.

They tried to get the persona audience with a steaming pile of half-baked and unbalanced social sim mechanics, and since the persona audience has no standards whatsoever as long as they get to feel like they're in school and have friends, this was successful

troongard

troonadetta

i am troon von aeger

whoreothea

why are BLACKED eagle have the worst shitters?

The gameplay genuinely sucks compared to Engage. That's one thing Engage has over Three Houses.

axe gives you multiple action in 1 turn

whats the logic here?

It's a magic evil murderaxe fed by the blood of your enemies, forged by ancient evil molepeople
Makes perfect sense for the red emperor to have, really

no, the Bernie-cue is pure fan headcanon. Bernie has to die before the fire even starts, and the tile Bernie is on can't even catch fire.

*first fire emblem was awakening*

burnie troons

so if i were to surround bernie with 4 units, leave her alive but kill everything else there, the fire never happens? lame.

the tile Bernie is on can't even catch fire.

woah, there's a raging firestorm all around me!

thanfully this one tile I barely fit on is inflammable! I am saved!

Please do not burn my berniebean

You can insult those, but leave Caspar out of this

Making her a mom a thousand times over!

The monastery being a slog is the number 1 reason I didn't do a second playthrough

I mean they could've unlocked an option to increase the EXP gain during monastery battles or deliver a new exp orb per NG+ cycle but fuck man, once you did the Renown Repurchases it's the only thing worth gunning for.

thanfully this one tile I barely fit on is inflammable! I am saved!

yes, that's actually how it works. the "one tile i barely fit on" is large enough for Bernie and her entire battalion after all, if you can fit like 10+ troops there its probably pretty big.

how do we stop big flier agendas?

make ingame pantyshots mandatory, the devs won't be able to put any more pegasluts in the games.

This. I loved both of these scenes with seeing her crazy side come out. Made me want to fuck her so bad.

Make them nopan, double their stats, and then make all the females able to relace into them!

There was something wild about seeing Edelgard turn into the hegemon husk and then declare she wants to rule the world.
It made the fight that much better.

god imagine if they had somehow made a CF Rhea ending possible where you drive her crazy and then fuck her.

Petra, my favorite Eagle. I take her with me on every route.

kind of weird Petra can defect at all, isn't she like, a political hostage of the empire?

For me its Ignatz and Raphael

Add an ending in AM where you can fuck the crazy hegemon Edelgard and i'm in.

instead of suicide by boar she impales herself on the professor's divine cock instead

Dimitri would be so pissed.

Yes but it's not clear on how much power the empire actually has over Brigid.

In a good timeline this would have happened. Cutting through the empire and the dubstep molemen with her would have been cool as hell.
Would have made the S-Rank afterwards better as well.

3H needed a route where you side with the real human beans to drive the dragons and their mongrel dogs from the face of the world

What vanilla+ mods for Engage?

Its a female Skeledirge. It becomes obvious when you realize she sings. The skeledirge probably just painted its flames blue somehow

I'd take it if it ends with everyone blowing up. It's would be funny as hell.
Both mongrels underground and aboveground wiped out in one glorious explosion.

don’t use armor knights

I will still use Draug
I will still use Valbar
I will still use Arden
I will sitll use Hannibal
I will still use Xavier
I will still use Bors or Barth
I will 100% of the time on every playthrough still use Oswin and he will still remain one of the best units of FE7
I will 100% of the time on every playthrough still use Gilliam and he will still remain one of the best units of FE8
I will 100% of the time on every playthrough still use Gatrie and he will still remain one of the best units of FE9
I will 100% of the time on every playthrough still use Gatrie and he will still remain as the best unit of FE10
I will use Benny over Effie every single time because the latter is a fake armor knight
I will turn Dedue into an Armor Knight every single time
I will never use Louis
Its that simple

There is the Playable Bosses and NPC mod isn't there?
Did they ever get far on make new Emblems?

I absolutely couldn’t stand the framerate and loading screens for the monastery sections
Is it a safe bet we’ll get a performance boost or should I just suck it up

Unless they explicitly confirm a upgraded version, just bite the emulation pill.

trans emblem

I miss the classic armor knights and General class.
The chain axe animation was cool

put dedue into armour knight in hopes

two +spd ups in a row

Maddening is fucking miserable even on NG+, I'm guessing you're supposed to spend your excess gold on pumping levels into your dudes. You just don't do any damage even with triangle advantage, stun gauge breaking and warrior specials.

Goldmary sex mod when

Everything would've been improved if the Agarthans weren't just evil psychos but legitimately anti-dragon racists who wanted to make a great human empire. Edelgard could actually be fully working with them as their modern piece, bringing them back into the open, instead of being just a violent retard who's being manipulated by evil mole people.

After the Lumera sex mod

Now I don't support paid mods, but if you were to ask me for a donation to a Celine sex mod...

she just like me frfr

Mmf

Celine is just female chudmitri

And the lumera preggo belly rub mod with hd rumble

Do you think the carpet matches the drapes?
As in, her cock is as big as her tits

PRINCESS HORT SEX DANCE!!!

Considering how she justifies herself, and how the game desperately wants to do so, it would have been funny if they tried to do the same with the Agarthans.
It would be a funnier manipulation.

They should have played up the parallels to Arvis a bit more. He only tolerated the Loptyrians and let them do as they pleased to get what he wanted. Eventually turns out he got totally played by them.

Uhh... your Rinkah?

Garbage HP, okay DEF, no RES, meh SPD, shit STR
She's backpack material and nothing more

I still can't get over how low effort the box art was.
People complain about AI generated art but in this case it would honestly have been higher effort.

Poor HP doesn't really matter when your defense is so high nobody can damage you.

Shit str

He doesn't know

That will always be funny

For me it's the guy who dies 3 seconds after the game ends my favorite emblem

Wait for the harem mod you degens

Real talk, why is Bernie allowed to be a general?

FE fans like to watch

Did a different team handled the DLCs in Fates? Everything outside of the Revelation DLC feels more cohesive and better paced.

A lot of 3H “discussion” feels like the same people circlejerking over the same points and smelling their farts.

Its more like they took out all the good parts of the story and hid them away in the DLC.
For example Liliths death in Conquest is way more impactful to the player with context but it makes absolutely no sense for it to be as impactful as it was to Corrin.
Fates story was potentially going to be one of their best if not the best but they royally fucked up so many things.

do not make clear the reasons why Nohr invades

things like Garons past and his demeanor before he became a murderous blob

the absolute dumb as fuck plotholes in both birthright and conquest intended to simply divert the player from the truth. Why would Azura not mention anything to Corrin when she accidentally falls into Valla in conquest for example.

make a more compelling argument as to why Hoshido siblings care to bring Corrin back, making them actual flesh and blood would be a start

The entire plot overall would have benefitted a lot from better characterization as well, Corrin is just kind of a wet fart of a character.
But as it stands, story-wise there is basically no point to conquest or birthright, they add nothing to the story and only confuse the played, I think that was their biggest problem

I kill Bernie every single time, this post just gave me yet another reason to do so. I hate you by the way

schizo talking to himself about fates story again for the millionth time

schizo talking to himself about 3H story and 'what ifs' again for the millionth time

It came out 6 years ago. A spinoff musou came out 3 years ago. You made a thread today.

I was actually giving a serious response not samefagging. What exactly is wrong with you people? Should I even call you people? This is the most schizophrenic post I have seen in a while. I recommend taking a break from the internet.

Would be too based

FE seems to have a weird issue with taking what stories they have and then stretching them way too thin and seemingly hoping you played another entry in the series or that you reply the game over again to better 'get it'? There is a better way to put it but the one thing Fates and 3H seem to have an issue with is that their important plot beats seem to need another route to be played but they seem to not want you to play other routes cause it might contradict what you just played.

if im awake fates will be the next op

Awakening revived the series because it WAS a great game

I like Awakening but its success was largely a product of "right place at the right time". 3DS was starved for quality games and Awakening came out during a pretty bad content drought. If the 3ds didn't have such a rough first few years we would be referring to FE exclusively in the past tense right now.

Marriage with Marianne!

BASED

So, can we all agree that Edelgard instead of focusing on her dumb war, should have focused on having lots of nonconsensual sex with her dumb Bernie?

It’s peak and it became the most successful Fire Emblem ever.

Awakening and Three Houses both seriously benefited from good timing. Awakening hit when 3DS was just starting to recover from its bad launch, and was further promoted with the SMT IV deal. Three houses likewise came out during the "fucking everything on Switch sells gangbusters" window, and then got boosted again by Covid.

I fucking hate that half this fanbase became sales analysts instead of just liking the games for what they are.

I don't really care about sales outside of the context of dismissing misconceptions over why certain games sold so well and why sales don't necessarily correlate to game quality. Awakening had plenty of qualities which allowed it to capitalize on its ideal release window (one of the most pick up and play entries, very casual friendly with a strong presentation and a story that's good enough).

Blame the Engagefags spamming COMG preorders as a way to dunk on 3H and it’s fans.

definitely one of the downsides to awakening's success. all the "it saved the series because it didn't sell worse than Thracia 776!" really went to people's heads.

But anon you have to understand. My favorite game in the series, and often only game, no I will not play any others, is the BEST in the series and nobody but me can see that.
MY favorite game was the first and only good game in the series of 10+ games spread across multiple platforms and that started in the 90's!
I wonder if this is what the Pokemon or FF fandoms look like? Does the CoD fandom talk? I think the Zelda fandom does it.

No, you faggot. This was happening even before Engage, don't pull your schizo shit on me. Everyone posting how PoR and RD almost "le killed the series!" because of their sales. Who gives a shit? We're past that already. All that matters is the quality of the games.

So you’re a Conqueer, which is what all Engagefags are.

Pokemonfags shitpost about sales mostly just to shit on the most well received games by the community (ds era) while glazing the dog shit switch era titles.

Welcome to the fandom post RD. As you can see with the Fates and 3H fags at eachother throats while pretending to be innocent.

I hear you, the games are fun and that’s all that matters
FF and Zelda yes, can’t speak for Pokemon and CoD

Huffing Mia's pits!

I miss the days back when 3 hopes and engage didnt exist. When these threads werent filled with discord raiders, reddit trannies, twitter faggots, and obsessed shizos that only spam culture war shit, that are so consumed by the algorythm that controls them they cant see past the shadows of the cave theyre in.
I miss when we could just call someone a faggot when he said he supports edelgard and move on
I miss when berniebro still posted
I miss absolute gold standard threads like almyran raiders or rhea gassing the black eagles
I miss it all

I think the Zelda fandom does it.

It’s morally right to shit on Wind Wakerfags.

The previous two made enough of a splash and it captured the persona audience with the school/time management system. Everybody bitched about whether edelgard was cute enough to get away with it, or about dragon hags. Maps were weak. Translation was fucked with. Didn't run great.

I like that there's literally only one person who brings this up (you) because nobody else knows wtf you're talking about and you're clearly still incredibly butthurt about it 3 years later

Awakening brought up the series but made the fandom worse and every game afterward only made the problem worse.
A true tragedy.

Ivy X Diamant having brutal, loving intercourse

Pokemon and FF are incredibly tribalistic. You literally can't talk about any pokemon game individually without it devolving into gen war bullshit. FF has calm down a bit, but there was a time where FF7fags made it damn near impossible to discuss any game but 7 and you still can't have normal discussion about 8 and 13.

Engagefags act smug with COMG

3Hfags when seeing Engage flopped spammed Famitsu and later Nintendo sales reports as revenge.

Causality is a bitch.

God you are such an insufferable faggot if you really seek "revenge" for the rest of time because some guy called your game a flop or some shit. Get help you completely insane loser

I only played half of it. Didn't care for the classroom thing. Too many stats with unclear use. Other then class promotion whats the point of training shit like horse riding? Does it give any bonus in combat? Frankly I stopped caring because the plot wasn't really going anywhere.
Yes I got to the time skip
Also I kinda perfer fire emblem when your army is some ragtag team of people you plucked from all arcoss the content included people who really shouldn't be trusted with saving the world like Joshua. Engage had the same problem except with almost everyone being of some importance rather then lesser people rising up

I'm assuming they could easily crush Brigid, and the reason that doesn't happen asap is because there are more important matters to attend to.

That's just an inherent rule with video games. If you want a series to crawl out of its niche hole, you need to appeal to and bring in people that will make the fandom 10x worse.

three houses is unironically the best game in the series because upgrading your units and hoping they make it to certain classes before hard missions is the most fun part of the series.

on the other hand, if you just play the games and ignore the fans its pure profit. We get great games and thanks to the fanbase being shit we're even discouraged from discussing them online, which i've learned is only a positive in terms of helping you enjoy games.

I’m just saying that’s when the salesfagging really took off. Sure there was using sales to bash Tellius, but it was never this bad.

Don't use Armor knights

Does anybody do this? They are a godsend in early chapters. Yeah, they fall off HARD afterwards but that doesn't change the fact they are often the only people able to hold the line that aren't Jagen's.

3H is the only game where you can promote and reclass units

Why would that be fun when for the most part your class doesn't even matter. It's not like you need to promote to get access to new weapon types you can just use whatever you want whenever you want

Yeah, Pokemon fans do it constantly too. And you know what group also seems to do it? Persona 5 "fans". The lowest denominator possible.

Nah, reclassing in TH sucks because its way too easy.
Breaking the game in Fates at least takes some effort and planning, TH just spreads itself wid open for you with zero effort

be generic enemy unit

your comrades have died by the dozen, a mere ragtag band of misfits tearing through them like tissue paper

you take a sword to the gut, but in your final moments alive land a decisive counter hit on one of the bastards that have torn your world apart

"ouch, that really hurts! sorry (avatar character) I can't die here"

"I will retreat :)"

how do you respond without sounding mad?

based optimistic outlook

I miss the pre Awakening years when everybody claimed Genealogy of Holy War was the best thing ever and you could actually get Path of Radiance for a reasonable price second hand.

more like first 5 chapters

Yeah, I just want more modding to come to future games.
If the series is gonna shoot itself in the foot by making the cooler units unplayable then I may as well wait for the community to fix the issue.

Something like that, yeah. After that they typically fall off, but they are still amazing during the first few chapters.

True, admittedly there is some fun in seeing the spectrum of storytelling across the series.
The gameplay is hit or miss as is the cast but overall it isn't bad.

you could actually get Path of Radiance for a reasonable price second hand

Damn

The gameplay is hit or miss as is the cast but overall it isn't bad.

By video game standards Fire Emblem is honestly really consistent. Even Shadow Dragon got enough thought put into it to be kind of fun.

First 5 chapters are usually brigands galore though so they suck there too. One of the main issues with Bors in FE6

Their commanders pull that shit too, so they shouldn't be mad.

Damn

People forget that once upon a time games weren't hounded by vicious collectors looking to scope up anything they could get their hands on.

i usually let the brigands kill the armorknights before they plague my bench
they deserve it

Knights should be able to wield swords like in the original game.

Why does your initial Armourknight and Archer always have such fuck awful growths? Isn't the entire point of characters you get early that they should have high growths to make up for sticking with them? Abel and Cain and their clones follow that format, why not your Gordin and Draug?

They do in Tear Ring

Agreed. 5 move is a lame solution, but the simple act of giving them more weapon triangle control would make a massive difference in their ease of use and incentive to train

A snowstorm kills him

A snowstorm almost kills Kamui

Weird how it's the one natural phenomena that characters actually suffer from

Don't like half the cast of Blazing Sword die from childbirth or whatever?

You're supposed to use Rinkah as a mage.

I had never made the connection that he was Hugh's dad. Why is his son a Jewey anima shitter?

I think it was to piss off his grandmother Niime

Where's the dance?

I never heard that before

Canas' support with Nino shows that Hugh was scared of Dark magic as a child, and has trauma due to it being forced on him when he was two.

Roy's mom dies.

Hector's wife dies.

Lyn vanishes into the void.

Nino leaves her kids at a orphanage and then vanishes.

Probably some other examples as well, but those are the obvious ones.

There isn’t a SINGLE UNVIABLE unit in engage

None of those died from childbirth.

I would say Vander is outright unviable past the early game, but apart from him everyone else is usable. Saphir seems pretty shit but I've never tried using her so idk how bad she really is

Vander is completely viable, I’ve used him as both a tank and a Brave Axe nuke. The main problem is that he WILL require statboosters on all his relevant stats.

anon, if he requires you to completely doctor his stats, he's nonviable. Vander serves his role as an HP battery for early maps before you get enough people that you don't need him, he doesn't need to be usable lategame.

How did Roy's mom die?

One stat booster for str, dex, hp and def
Give him starsphere

but MUH DLC YOU ARE CHEATING

he is literally the one character were it WOULDNT be cheating considering how underpowered he is
Even then its still possible to use him without but he will need basically all the stat boosters for his relevant stats

early maps

Vander is a liability by chapter 3.

Chapter 4 and 5 are when i found him the most useful as a tank.

The best part about the game is discussing the characters, playing through it is actually agonizing

Name one character that needs the energy drops to be viable

you can use them on a character thats already good that doesn’t need them to perform

Answer my question

If you need to feed him every non spirit dust just to be usable he isn't viable. You're basically trashing your boosters that could go to good units just to not use someone who will be better in every way naturally

died of cold in illia

kind of proving my point. other characters are "viable" without feeding them a bunch of rare one time use items. that's all the proof i need that vander isn't viable by default.

conquest/birthright didn't do as well

So we're just revising history for the sake of it at this point? Conquest and Birthright were the best selling TRPGs in history and surpassed War of the Lions in sales.

One

Give me the answer to 2 + 2 and don't give me and of that 4 nonsense!

she took one look at her son and said "fuck no, i'm not waiting for his ass to walk all the way across the room" and offed herself. she was the smartest FE6 player.

Stat boosters are a part of what makes a unit viable and thats part of the beauty’s of engage, even a character like vander can be built to perform

Youre using a non applicable analogy here. Who to use stat boosters on is much more complex than just dump them all on Ivy and Kagetsu brainlet.

calling me lil bro when he was born in 2013

kek!

you wish, mia

It feels like reaching way too hard if you say "invest enough into them and everyone is viable", like at that point the label "viable" is completely pointless, because a unit with straight 0 stats and 0 growth rates could be carried through the game with enough tower abuse to farm speedwings and energy drops

Missionary with leglocked anal with Merrin

No you give them to units who already have strengths to capitalize on those. For example if you have a mage knight who easily doubles but is just shy of one round thresholds like Chloe, she's a great choice for a spirit dust or 2. Vander isn't good at anything so why use him? Sure you can spam boosters to make him less shit, but what is the actual goal there? Just to say you used him?

If you want an actual answer (you don't). Chloe or Zelkov are great choices for who to give an energy drop to. Merrin, Goldmary, or Yunaka might be other choices although they might still not get there with just an energy drop.

this unit is good because I gave them all the statboosters

Anon is a GBAfag for sure

i give all of my statboosters to melody

I give all my statboosters to Marcus

Who else remembers the cancer FE6 marcus glazing?

Yes exactly thats the point. Every unit in every fire emblem game is viable.

Vander is good at tanking therefore he would be good with Quick Riposte

he deserves it

when i play the GBA games i give all my stat boosters to whoever has the biggest tits. Cecilia, Lyn, and Tana or Marisa tend to appreciate them.

Just give them Qi Adept’s ability. It was frustrating seeing something that armors should’ve got, but they instead were stuck with a gimmick tied to Engage’s “Weapon Triangle” if you could even call it that.

Post good Dorothys please

People really tend to underrate Merrin's strength. Sure her growth isn't that great, but her base strength is actually really high. She's a great choice for your Roy user because she's just naturally so fast

Yes exactly thats the point. Every unit in every fire emblem game is viable.

so your point is that you don't actually want to discuss or rank the units, you just want an "everyone is super, therefore nobody is" ending to the discussion.

DONT GIVE STAT BOOSTERS TO THE JEIGAN

NOOOOOOOOOO YOURE SUPPOSED TO GIVE THEM TO THE HIGH GROWTH WAIFU UNIT

YOU DONT UNDERSTAND CHARACTER X ALREADY DOES 50x2 BUT IF YOU GIVE HIM THE ENERGY DROP HE DOES 52x2

NOOOOOO THE JEIGAN HAS NO STATS HE EXCELS AT, STOP LOOKING AT HIS DEFENSE/HP LOOK AT HIS SPEED

He's not good at tanking though. His defense is awful for his high internal level.

blue yoshi would never say that

Red Yoshi would though

The point was literally unit viability not ranking. You pulled ranking out of your pretentious faggot ass and dogpiled it into the argument on a seething tard rampage
Remember all LTC fags should be killed

from my dick

What would TJ Yoshi say

Vander is good at tanking

Vander's internal level is 15, the same as Bunet's, who is considered a low-tier character. Bunet has 20 defense at base and Vander has fucking 10.

Something something A press

people beat fire emblem games on lunatic with 0% growth mods, that doesn't mean most people would consider a unit with straight 0 growths to be a viable unit for normal play. saying "actually if you do a challenge run and feed all your resources to Shitto the worthless Jeigan, he's viable" is the same as saying "he's not viable' in the language of normal human beings.

An LTC is an LTC. You can't say it's just "efficiency"

Nobody os arguing that vander has low base stats.
Also vander starts as a paladin not a great knight

Nobody os arguing that vander has low base stats.

I am. He has abysmal base stats. The only non shit one is HP

In Sacred Stones are the male characters better than their female equivalents? Like why would you use Marisa over Joshua? The archer and mage girl seem like they can be replaced with the prince and teacher unless you specifically wanted a horsie which is pretty fair in movement emblem

who gives a shit about women

He doesn't. He's not even all that useful past chapter 1, since your units start getting stats and there's more enemy variety than just high str figthers.

Vanders vase stats are low on purpose but that comparison is disohnest. Great knight Vander has 17 defense

In Sacred Stones are the male characters better than their female equivalents?

Insofar that Seth exists and he can solo the entire game, yes.

No male byleth > all

Neimi is unironically better than Innes because ranger is way better than sniper and her growths are actually pretty good

he's still your strongest and tankiest unit for the first 7 chapters

I do because I am one, scrote

He can't do anything to formortis

Every unit in every fire emblem game is viable.

I encourage everyone who genuinely believes this to use Wendy without ludicrous amounts of babying and favoritism

1 movement is 1 movement tile. You can't move half a tile

Blame Eliwood for not teaching his stupid son how to ride a horse.

Bro? Your Vidofnir?

Well in that case I should point out that Vander is also slower as a paladin than Bunet is as a GK. In fact, Vander is worse in every single stat, including HP, which is his best one

Ask people using gamefaq in 2003.

Strongest

Both Dieck and Rutger are stronger, and Alance usually are stronger after a few levels

defense

Alan and Lance match up to him by level 10 going off pure Def and don't lag behind in HP, and several units beat out Marcus in avoid making them tankier due to avoid stacking being an effective strat in FE6.

but anon, that's his point, all you have to do is baby her ludicrously and she'll be perfectly viable!

Ranger is def the way to go with her but no I wouldn't say shes better then Innes

You can just spam her triangle attack, horrible example

nothing is stronger than silver lance marcus until you get zelot, be serious, also

level 10 alen/lance by chapter 7

lol?

Wendy is more usable then Sophie

Exquisite bait. Bravo

Like I said his base stats are lower on purpose. The gap isn’t as wide as you’re pretending it is tho

The maps are bad but the rest of the game is good, except leveling up the monastery, which takes forever.

Engage suffers from the opposite, the maps are really good but the rest of the game sucks

but the gameplay sucks ass, anon

it's another "rout the enemy" chapter and the map looks an empty chess board

doesnt help at all when the meta composition is making everyone into boring ass wyvern lords

I'm not sure about that. They're both about as bad as it gets, but at least Sophia can attack at 2 range with a hit rate above 30%

dies on enemy phase

The Killing Edge is the actual strongest weapon you have, and Marcus can't even use it unless you grind his sword rank. A 60 accuracy lance that Marcus doesn't even have the strenght to oneshot with isn't that good.

level 10 alen/lance by chapter 7

Why not? They're the characters who get the most exp funneled into them by far even without grinding, since they are both cavs with good stats and good wt control.

hey now at least wyvern lords are countered by bow.... wait why the fuck did they think it was okay for dismount to be a thing, and a free action at that.

Maps are bad

It's better than awakening.

no you see IS designed trainee/growth l/jeigan units with the express purpose of making them unusable and unviable

you’re simply not meant to use them

Reminder to kill all LTC fags, preferably after breaking all their teeth

Imfuckingplying most nu FE isn't just rout

In this run on engayge, im going to be femalear, marry veyle, then die on the last level so i can be married with the evil (best) version of her.

lol have fun dragging Bors and Barthe along with her, 3 knights with 4 movement lining up for a triangle attack regularly is retarded
The only time I legit spammed triangle attacked was in Gaiden for Est.

They often struggle with making growth units viable. I can't think of many examples where people overwhelmingly go for them.

It objectively isn't.

Merrin's base strength and growth rate are actually fantastic and I don'tknow why people think she's subpar on a physical class. 2 less strength and 5% less growth than Kagetsu, but she has 500 more starting SP to make for it. Honestly, you'll struggle to find situations where she can't kill something Kagetsu would have.

Yes IS very clearly did want you to stop using Vander. If they wanted you to keep using him they wouldn't have made him impossible to level up for the first 12 fucking chapters

Not to mention, you get Wendy right before the western isles with a fuck ton of axe users

Sophia is way better once she’s trained up and has a lot more things available(dancer, stat-boosters, a stronger team) to make her training less annoying than Wendy’s.