Building a PC for the first time

12vhpwr

AMD

Yes I need to pay $1200 more for the same performance because... because DLSS is better than FSR OKAY

even doe I can't tell the difference in blind tests...

it's the best option unless you can grab a 5070ti for cheaper

You forgot the part benchmarks don't tell you.

Try to launch game

Shitheap AMD driver has crashed

AMD

aYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYymd fucking sucks, keep your chinkshit to yourself

Shitheap AMD driver has crashed

it's the opposite for this gen. the green team drivers are dogshit now.

AMD CPUs are fine but don't touch their GPUs with a 50 foot barge pole.

AMD drivers have been more stable than Nvidia's for a long time now.

I switched from 2070S to 9070 XT and it's alright.

you can tell always nvidia's marketing team is desperate with these threads. it's really sad.

LMAOOOOOOOOOO AHAHAHAHAHA

people still believe in the driver spook in the year of our lord 2020+5

Yeah, AMD had plenty of driver problems in recent times, devs urging to rollback on previous drivers, abhorrent performances, sneaky downgrades and the new series was a failure on launch with random crashes and black screens.
Oh wait that was saarvidia, you fucking jeet.

Sure, go for XFX or Powercolor. Saphire unfortunately chose to use the 12V High Failure connector. Ignore the trolls; Nvidia is crashing hard right now.

it's blatantly artificial at this point. it's been way too long for that marketing bullet point to still be relevant and seem organic. nvidia will always stoop to new lows.

asrock

If you want an amd card you get sapphire. No exceptions.

amd drivers perfectly stable

nshitia drivers disable temp readings so your card never turns on fans or throttles until it burns down

How the fucking turntables lmao

My 7900xtx works fine

are you planning to go HARD on video editing/blender

If your answer is no, save 20% for the same gaming perfs and go ayymd. amd is also less of a headache driver-wise than nvidia this gen.

im getting mixed signals here

12hpwr is only shit when you get to 4090 levels of power consumption. 9070xt is rated 150w lower than that

If you got the cash, sure man
contrary to belief rx9070 is overkill
Don't listen to the autists here whining that it can't run the lastest game at 4k 200fps like that's necessary

can't run the lastest game at 4k 200fps like that's necessary

That is necessary to me but I still have a 9070 XT.

AMD

don't be stupid. this latest gen is their 1st new gen for a while so it's essentially beta tech. it's like RTX 20 series. RTX didn't get good till the 30 series. either go nvidia or wait 2 years for next gen AMD.

this latest gen is their 1st new gen for a while so it's essentially beta tech.

retard, the next gen is going to be new UDNA.
RDNA4 is RDNA3 with better RT and AI capabilities

Only if you can find it at MSRP. The prices for GPUs are so inflated right now.

yeah, it's a great card

t. 9070 xt hellhound owner

Same, for some reason Hellhound is cheaper than MSRP variants

The midrange powercolor card is what everyones chasing because it uses 2 8pin rather than the stupid shit most of the other cards are like 12vhp or triple 8pin.

the tech will still be the same between both regardless. RDNA 3 had little to no AI acceleration and piss poor RT performance. RDNA 4 is the basis for their future tech.

yeah just not asrock

They need to fuck off and fix these fucking drivers
Literally inverse of amd and intel right now. This shit has made my fan report 0 rpm twice now. Had to roll back 2 times.

Sir get Nvidia Sir you can generate AI Pron sir

In short 4090 and 5090 connect 4x8pin into 1 12hpwr connector and draw too much power from it because 4090 is rated 450W and 5090 is rated 575W. A common fix to that is to pull 1 8pin cable from the psu so that connector wont melt. 9070xt uses only 3x8 pin and is rated 300W so 12hpwr cable is ok

Not being able to gen AI slop (on Windows and at reasonable speeds) is the only reason I refuse to buy AMD.

I can generate ai on my shittop
Can is subjective to the user.

It is unironically frustrating that AMD now makes superior GPUs but this "drivers and house fires" meme from twenty years ago is STILL preventing them from gaining marketshare
Normies believe it completely, normal PC gamers chuckle when you recommend AMD, meanwhile screaming about Nvidia being so expensive and having no supply and having all these problems they heard about on YouTube
Meanwhile my 9070xt was purchased at MSRP and simply functions without issue

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meanwhile in reality 40 and 50 series still creating black smoke fires

lying on the internet

Tf you talking about? AMD now has 40% market share in japan for new gen GPUs

who gives a fuck about this useless stat they have like 10% worldwide

40% of 1000 GPU's is pretty meaningless

Seems like comfyui has an implementation that supports ZLUDA on windows nowadays, kinda suspect it'll be decent enough for my needs but I guess I'll find out whenever I get around to upgrading to an AMD gpu. At least it doesn't seem to be anywhere near as much a shitshow as it used to be.

OKAY OKAY so MAYBE Nvidia had a bad launch
And maybe their cards are wildly overpriced
And maybe there aren't any for sale
And maybe you'll never find one at MSRP
And maybe the MSRP was a lie to begin with, I'll give you that
And maybe the power connectors melt
And maybe the performance was a lie
And maybe AI looks like Vaseline smeared on my screen
And maybe we've seen cases where the 50 series cards loses to their 40 series counterparts in raw performance
And maybe they're power hungry
And maybe they're hot
Okay maybe they start actual fires
And MAYBE the 5090 shipped without some ROPs
Okay maybe the 5080 did too
OKAY OKAY so maybe they all did
And maybe Nvidia keeps lying to us
And maybe they present less value than their competitors
And maybe their drivers are actually buggy now
BUT I AM NOT GONNA GET TRICKED INTO BUYING AMD

Fake frames real flames

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