So, who's the kid?
Expedition 33
Gustave's apprentice
ReVerso
it's me
Some dog owners will stagger their dog acquisitions so that when the elder dog will help train the younger to behave as the owner prefers. When that elder dog passes away the owner will purchase a new puppy that the remaining dog will help train in a similar way ensuring continuity in behavior.
That is the new Verso who will be stuck playing the piano when old Verso finally finds a way to kill himself.
Gustave's apprentice
Look at the clothes. It's kid Verso
The train station kid maybe?
SPOILER: Madam bought him a whole train
I initially thought it was one of Gustave's apprentices. But reviewing the previous cutscenes it isn't.
The gold motif (used on all the members of the Dessendres including their painted/fragmented versions) on his jacket alongside the similar hairstyle makes it pretty obvious that it's a young Verso.
It's Sciels kid she lost that Paintress 2.0 Maelle brings back. Sciel is with her husband at the end as well.
Unfortunately, Maelle is a huge shotacon.
In that case the next question is: is it Soul Sliver Verso? How is he there, instead of painting to maintain the Canvas?
Or is that one still slavering away painting in the place inbetween, and this one just another painted copy for Alicia's delulu-land?
Or is that one still slavering away painting in the place inbetween, and this one just another painted copy for Alicia's delulu-land?
Yes. Pain the picture painter boy. Play the music piano man. Be my friend (I have none) mini-brother
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Jus rewatched the ending and I thought the boy was sitting inbetween maelle and Sciel not Lune, so I don't know now.
Because Maelle is the one painting now. Remember she is a shitty painter (she is primarily a writer), that's why Gustave and Sophie are in the same gommage clothes, and Sciel and Lune have the same clothes as her.
Can't trust wriggers. Clea's going to have to deal with her.
She's not a shitty painter, she's a lazy painter. The things she pulls off in Act 3 give credence to the entire "She Who Reaches" section, and puts Renoir on the back foot even though if she was really that shitty even Renoir as tired as he is should have dealt with her handily. Like Verso she didn't really want to be a painter, but that has nothing to do with her actual talent or capability. Once she has what she wants though, like the lazy, selfish bitch she is, she doesn't bother to try beyond the most superficial level that will make her happy and forget reality.
To be fair to Renoir, he's been in the painting for way too long, and he's also fighting a souped up version of Verso who was given way too many powers by his wife alongside Alicia. That same Verso was strong enough to overpower Alicia one on one.
Renoir doesn't want to hurt his daughter. He's got kid gloves on the entire time and ends things with the "I'll leave the lights on for you" hoping that she'll pull herself out of the fent pile of her own accord.
She doesn't, obviously, addicts won't help themselves, and he loses his daughter.
Lune's kid
But she's 16, that doesn't make any sense
She's 32 and pretending. Don't trust that wrigger.
But she's 16
Not but even if true it wouldn't stop her.
She only beat Renoir because of the Lumina converter. She's no expeditioner 60
Living to the age of 16 twice, with no memories of a previous life as you were living them doesn't make you 32. It just makes you 16 with two sets of teenager memories when you remember them both.
We have no timeframe on the epilogue. For all we know that's 50 years down the line and she's been keeping up the facade of youth and forcing the music man to play the piano every day
lots of niggers in the intro
Maelle brings a bunch of people back in the outro in her ending
no niggers in the outro
What did Maelle mean by this?
Dumb fucking retard. The outro is the grand reopening of the opera house. At most a year passed and even that is way too long
She's a psychotic painter/writer with absolute control over time and memories. For all we the audience know this is could be the second third, or even fiftieth time the opera house has had a "grand reopening."
At most a year passed
Why do both Maelle (the laugh lines are very noticeable) and Verso look so much older then?
and people still claim it isnt the gotyay
it's the fading, faceless boy that you see throughout the game. This is Verso's soul fragment that got here when he painted the canvas as a kid. Maelle, being a selfish cunt, thought it would be funny to bring him back alongside painted Verso.
you're autistic if you really think that these two boys are the same
you're autistic if you really think that these two boys are the same
I posted it to illustrate that they aren't.
In a camp conversation with Sciel you can get Verso to admit he has Gestals dye his hair. His hair is actually white since he's 100+ years old.
It's not the hair, it's the face. Same with Maelle.
a writer
They look the same to me. Just different lighting.
That's a kid.
Alicia is not a good paintress, less petals (memory) she has of someone the less she is able to redraw them.
Maelle still has the body of a teenage girl, why are you autistically trying to analyse her nonexistent laugh lines when her body obviously didn't get older. She probably doesn't even age now that she knows she's a Paintress, seeing how none of the other Painters how signs of aging in the Painting
Lune and Sciel seem visibly older too, yet the people who got un-gommaged don't seem to have aged a day.
now ask yourself: why would they only use one of the three apprentices
out of 10!
man I loved the game but the kids were animated really poorly; you could really tell they didn't have a kid mocap actor
This is unfucking believable.
You shills have 12 threads up for this shitty French dark souls wanabe.
How can you possibly believe anyone here will accept this as natural?
He sits between Maelle and Lune right? What did they mean by this?
dark souls wanabe
Why kids think dark souls invent something?
why do you think people give a shit how a game was financed
tags: FFM threesome, shotacon, prostate milking, footjob
only 12? goty deserves way more
Because it fucking did you illiterate ESL retard. It invented an entire fucking genre "souls like"
Stop shilling this game and go read.
lurking in these threads without having finished the game is legitimately insane behavior. This game is really cool but i'm feeling like i might just switch to a no commentary longplay. This game has the opposite problem most jrps have. It's like 4 hours of gameplay between 5 minutes of cutscenes. Just slogging through areas, each encounter is grueling because of a niche 2010 action RPG's western marketing campaign and how it affected all video games forever. Started to get really annoyed with some of the obnoxious mimes and chromatics, so i would turn on easy mode to beat them. Then I got to the mask place and fought the jovial mask, turned on easy mode and have not turned it off since. The game is certainly easy now, and it's also just not fun. I still have to meticulously choose every skill or each fight is a 10 minute slog. Idk. The luster is wearing off. I am almost definitely just gonna watch a longplay.
It invented an entire fucking genre "souls like"
Reddit did that, retard-kun. Everything in Dark Souls had already been done before, it's simply the one that gained traction over time.
The only thing they invented is a shitty combat system that only stockholm niggers like
arguing about this shit is literally retard-brained moronslop. It's obviously a set of common characteristics that can be identified in a lot of different games. It's not as clear cut and distinct as "racing game" vs "real time strategy" game but acting like the confluence of mechanics DS popularize isn't notable and distinct just makes you a gay faggot with a dumb baby brain (probably bald too). Checkpoints that refresh consumables and enemy spawns mid-level, only being able to level up at said checkpoints, streamlined game economy (xp/gold are one resource), plot details revealed through item descriptions, and all common enemies being actual threats are some of these characteristics. Usually would need at least a few simultaneously for anyone to consider it "soulslike". but spending any energy actually arguing about this is literal monkeyretard nigger behavior
Writes a whole essay because he got his ass resoundly blasted
Unfathomably homosexual.
each encounter is grueling
Started to get really annoyed with some of the obnoxious mimes
Excellent bait.
I can entertain the possibility of him being Verso and Lune's kid, but that wouldn't rhyme with giving the player the romance options.
I think he's Child Verso too. But probably not the real one.
that's all fine and dandy faggot but clair obscur obviously isn't a soulslike
The lumina converter low key being the thing that makes the difference in the war against the writers would be kino, especially if Gustave(Simon) was based on an IRL writer that IRL Clea used to sleep with and Maelle thought of as a big brother
He doesn't actually play or like games.
Get
Gud
Probably a self-insert of the masoncattle nepo-baby who projectile vomitted all this bastardized symbolism that constitutes this game. I pity the composer, the VAs and the people who've cobbled together the combat system -- their talent has been wasted on what amounts to a flow-and bingo-chart of pretentious cargocultism.
Forcing Child Verso to paint when he has clearly indicated he wants to stop is unethical.
The irony is this is the most pretentious post I've read on Anon Babble in a good while.
Once she has what she wants though, like the lazy, selfish bitch she is, she doesn't bother to try beyond the most superficial level that will make her happy and forget reality.
When Verso sits down and hesitates to play, the camera pans across Maelle's face, revealing an expression of doubt and a very slight frown, and then across the faces of the others in attendance, revealing that they mimic Maelle's expression -- they are quintessentially inagentic meatpuppets, like Verso at this point.
Genocide is ethical
Versofags never fail to amuse me with their shallow grasp on morality and ethics.
Except Sciel's "romance" is just a fling and she makes it clear her husband has her love. Lune's is optional too but it fits better for both. So we can probably assume its their kid if we romance her or its a recreation of Verso by Maelle. Him sitting between Maelle and Lune is important.
both being morally bankrupt doesn't absolve one of them.
so many faggots, especially politically and socially, view morality and ethics as a zero sum game, its all framing the opposing side as bad (wether real or fake is irrelevent) so that somehow your moral highground increases.
in reality people like you and them are all morally bankrupt, and just want someone to suffering with your hands clean of it, you want to be sadistic, with it being morally okay.
so many people are like this, its really quite alarming, everyone is jonsing to get their licks in on basically someone, anyone they can, and for them to feel good about it.
So, who's the kid?
Smartest escapism fan
My nigger, the game is basically a compilation of Anon Babble crowdsourced freemason trivia, including the hamfisted Plato's Cave/Gnosticism metafaggotry.
Genocide
MOOOOOOM THE RETARD IS SIDING WITH IMAGINARY PEOPLE AGAIN
The only morally right side in the story are Writers, for actually trying to eliminate the people responsible for all that shit.
again, another faggot that wants it to be zero sum, just on a different balance scale set.
every stance on morality in the modern age is who is justified in killing who, and just how much killing and how gruesomely they are allowed to do it.
its a world now bereft of ideals or honor, Idiocracy that isn't fun or a joke.
a compilation of... crowdsourced freemason trivia
I didn't see any transgenderism or esoteric racially ambigious mutts in the game. If it was really by a freemason, then at least he had decency to keep revered holy commandments of his totally-not-religion in his pants, unlike his American brothas responsible for overseeing game development there.
Anon Babble
A board of drooling animals who know absolutely nothing about serious subjects and spend all productive energy on reading gay freemason fantasy lore for lower degrees instead of studying the thing itself. I don't see what else can come out, when your main "research material" are hackjob collages of random pictures made by either retards like yourself or freemason jannies doing community service on the internet.
Why is noone talking about the fact Maelle is 10 years older in her ending? She looks 30
If OUR world only existed because it tortured a child all day every day for eternity, then our world would deserve to end, too.
being in the Painting is literally bad for you.
Bitch took 10 in canvas years to make some shitty versions of the people she knew.
every single person wearing the same white clothes except for gustave and sophie and obviously verso
reverse the roles
agreed, I stand by my principles to their fullest extent and I agree fully.
such a world would not deserve to exist.
I dunno but he's creepy. He moves like a weird puppet, which is appropriate for the ending I suppose.
Lumerian culture has people dying at the age of 30, so 12-20 year olds dating is seen as normal
lol no, the culture wouldn't exist that fast, people were just 5 years ago dying at 38.
any sort of civilization would be in its death throes once it got to the low 30's like it has, as shown in game, no one really seemes to give a fuck that much that people are getting Gommaged other than family of the current batch, no one gives a fuck about much of anything, in 14 years we will only have teenagers, and not even that many of them due to the way the gommage works.
Maelle for instance, being 16 doesn't have 14 years, she has like 6, by the time they got to the 18 year mark, they'd likely have 1/1000 the population they had at 35.
no one has or could develop a culture of 12 year olds fucking 20 year olds.
wtf i hate monarco now
genocide
imaginary people
Palestinians?
Forsooth, fellow gentlesir. Upon copious pontificating, I find this computerized petteia to be overwrought with typification and dreary themes.
troonship/muttization
European masoncattle is more discrete, but still can't help itself aggressively flashing symbolism to signal their membership to the pyramid scheme.
Anon Babble
I do respect the glownigger penal colony that is Anon Babble more than I do freemasonry in any of its iterations. The genuine anons on Anon Babble atleast don't sell their souls for what amounts to fanfiction -- fantasy lore gives it still too much credit by connotation or lack thereof.
So let me get this straight. Some literal who takes money from his only family and makes absolute kino. And that is bad compared to large corporate entities that have been pushing out endless slop on literal 100 million dollar budgets?
You should have applied as writer or localizator. I'd prefer this to the misp(l)aced and mixed english/french profanity.
It's just more of the Kojima-syndrome: you're praising one individual for the work of dozens of others. Imagine how this game could have turned out without the nepotism (especially manifesting in writing and marketing).
I will say I thought it was jarring when Monoco said fuck. It was either the first time it was uttered or the first time I noticed, but it was said a few times afterwards too. When a universe has their own fake swears, I don't like modern English stuff creeping in.
Worse? He got money and hired competent people that delivered super hard for the game.
I've found the instances of "putain" and "merde" just as jarring. Especially because, as you suggest: all of it could have been replaced with in-universe expressions. That would have allowed universal localization, too.
Why would it have in universe equivalence when Aline was lazy and she just painted Parisians as is?
a little French man with very little experience completely mogged the entire Japanese and American games industries on his first attempt
holy gigabased
worse?
Really? I believe all that talent could have perforned even better, if it had not been held down by contrived writing and design working through a checklist of masoncattle symbolism and themes. The english VA talent has been utterly wasted on the (localized) script, that's for sure.
Are there any examples of localization of this game?
I am sure french people can express anger, frustration and disbelief in myriad ways. The mixture of english and french exacerbates it -- yet, even in isolation, profanity is a lazy cop-out. If it's used once or twice in the entire game and in fitting situations, sure, I don't mind. If however it turns into habit... I'd much rather hear in-universe slurs (e.g.: cursing out the paintress or nevrons, using the concept of gommage as slur or working that of chroma into an expletive of sorts). Anything that distances the fantasy from [current year] Clownworld works just fine.
different facial features
no freckles
Maelle clearly painted a kid Verso because the adult one doesn't want to play with her.
Anything else is just copium, she has gone crazy.
I'd argue the game would never have been able to exist without him and his families fuck you money because he didn't want to be some drone at ubisoft. I do agree with you that giving sole credit to him is foolish but I still don't see how having someone have their dad put money on the line for them is a bad thing when we got corpos doing it x1000 and still producing slop.
I am only familar with the english one as of yet, and it's quite a letdown. It starts of okayish, but shortly after the expedition starts profanity slowly creeps in. I'd imagine it's atleast better paced in french.
How did this game get Daredevil to do Gustave's voice and Gollum to do Renoir's? I had no idea either did voice over work, though Serkis makes sense.
the boy is verso's soul
I had no idea either did voice over work
serkis practically voices every character hes mocapped for movies.
with charlie cox, most likely the voice director/producer of the game contacted his agent and he agreed to do it.
I think all the hamfisted symbolism and themes are a consequence of that fuck-you money. It would have been better if the game had been conceived of as a neutral and original piece of art, rather than a commission. Needless to say the marketing is beyond obnoxious: the game is not a creation of some ramshakle independant developer studio, it's financed with 'fuck you'-money and it neither had to compete for talent, nor did it have stand and sell on its own merit.
By the third day after release people already FOMO'd in because it has been shilled everywhere.
It caught my attention solely because of the OST, I could have enjoyed that without the backdrop of the game -- I wouldn't have bothered with the game itself without it. I do genuinely believe that most if not all word of mouth concerns that OST, wheras the rest is lumped as it's elevated by it beyond "average" and well above the plot. Play it muted and it'll appear utterly generic.
So what you're saying is nepotism is good? This GOTY wouldn't exist without it.
had been conceived of as a neutral and original piece of art, rather than a commission
Not how art works in general, it's never neutral.
By the third day after release people already FOMO'd in because it has been shilled everywhere.
It's like the game is good and people love it or something.
I meant for games specifically. I checked Serkis' IMDB and he's done less than 15 games and many of those were for LOTR games. I assume he has more important shit to do than vidya because he's good at it.
Your dad is a poor loser and so you are. Why should anyone care? Good for him.
all the best works of art are by comission for some dumb event from some political or religious figure having a wank.
you have the luxury of time and distance from said time of when it was made to glorify old art, the kind that propbably gushes about all the details, not knowing how mundane and retarded they were to the artist and everyone involved at the time.
basically, kill yourself, like Tyler from The Menu.
NOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GET FUNDING!
Literally who gives a shit? If people were passing this off as indie like they did with Dave the Diver, this might be relevant, but it's not.
Not how art works in general, it's never neutral.
Neutral in respect to 'art vs commission'.
It's like the game is good and people love it or something.
Good games are played, not shilled. It's virtually impossible for a game to saturate all venues of communication within three days of release, unless it's shilled at the leveks of AAA slop (dispelling the weird indi marketing ploy).
all the best works of art are by comission
Doubtful. If you operate by debtcattle paradigm "if x number of people (feign) joy and interest in y, it has to be good", sure, otherwise that's more happenstance than rule. Not to mention that, in the best of cases, commission and art are largely independant from another and artists have freedom in creation beyond the roughest of directions.
made to glorify old art
That's the crux of my criticsm, this game has been commissioned to be gushed at. There's great craftsmanship in between, but not at the core of it.