What. the. fuck

What. the. fuck.

they want to be ultrakill sooo bad

tl;dr

I've played through both 2016 and Eternal and I don't know anything about their story, it's impossible for me to perceive the words these games throw at me

this shit is so ass

Making him a demigod is so fucking lame. I have a soft spot for characters that are "regular" humans overcoming extreme odds.

Man when Hugo and Marty got complimented on their work with the story in 2016 they really went fucking nuts with that didn't they?

same

remember when doomguy was literally nobody, and then the internet started making fun of how fast he was running and how badass he was when you really considered what happened in this silly retro fps game. it's fucking retarded that instead of basing nu-doom on the original games with their unique aesthetics, they instead based it on an internet meme that had nothing to do with the original games.

He's actually just a normal dude who has been killing demons for an eternity. Like gut's sword. It's just a big slab of steel but it gets infused with demonic energy after killing so many.

the story in Eternal was already embarrassingly bad, cant imagine what they come out with

I don't know why they have to write all this marvelshit. As far as I'm concerned Doomguy just ate 3 flintstones vitamin gummies every day since childhood and got fukken hueg, that's all I need.

shonenshit in doom

This is what you get for shilling Eternal
Enjoy it

Nah bad guy fueling and creating their own downfall is based

I thought that was a chick in doomguy armor from the thumbnail

its called shitcon

Planet of hebe's

Yeah. The Doom Slayer is more akin to a natural phenomenon than a real character. Trying to make the franchise to be about lore and characters is another level of retarded.

Why is the AI so bad in this game? Jesus, I remember the imps were annoying in Doom 2016 or eternal on nightmare, in this shit, most demons feel like fodder or too dumb to kill you.

doomguy and his hebes...

reminder that according to id retcons Doomguy is jewish

doom 4 started this

Of course he is.

Calling it now, next retcon will be about how the demons are actually good, and the Church slaughtered six millions of them without any good reasons.

You and every other boring bitch on the planet.

it's the most accessible doom ever made anon

Boring font. If you want blood, make it look like blood. Don't just colour it red and say job done.

OH
EM
GEEEEEEEE

WHAT THE F************CKK!!!! THIS IS SO EPIK!!!

True, doomguy should just be a regular human who's just really fast and resilient for no reason.
Also what did the god rays even do to him? make him regenerate ammo instead of having to rely on ammo pickups?

OH MY GOD IT'S A MINI DOOMGUYIRINO!!!
HE'S SO CUTE!!!!!!!!

That's just as retarded as "batman is just a regular human bro" forced and artificial relatability point

Why is he fighting his own kin?

[R] Collapse

modern Japanese writers think they are ancient Greek poets with their fatalism son of destiny chosen one bullshit lmao

codex should be voiced by the King's Field narrator:
youtube.com/watch?v=OpdfSHjDgf8

I refuse to even read that, the font alone is embarrassing.
I get that on some level, they tried to do something wildly different. That can be good.

But doom eternal was the tightest single player shooter i've played in a long time. Maybe uhh riff on that a bit instead of whatever the fuck this game is.

He's from the same family as BJ Blazkowicz and Commander Keen which is fine. I don't know about Nuum lore, I don't play it

stupid ass keyboard shortcut

(Z) Up instead Page Up

(C) Up instead Page Down

(R) Collapse instead (C)ollapse

(B) Magnify instead (M)agnify

This really was the biggest punch in the face possible after 1000 chapters of pure kino.
What the fuck. All this time I thought Luffy was just such a chad that he overcame all odds by being clever with his bad Devil Fruit power, but actually it was all FATE.

Maykr

it's like something you'd read in a 13 year old's 40k fan-fiction

they are probably tied to other commands, because gamepads.

@grok why is zoom so full of basedshit?

Caring about the story in Doom.

A series originally written by edgelord twentysomethings based on all the stolen edgelord shit they liked.

Caring, ever, that the writing is bad.

You guys are have to be shitting me, right? The only thing faggier than caring about the story in a Doom game is complaining about the writing in it. I don't even think redditors give a shit about the writing or the "lore" in doom. Demons bad, gameplay fun. Anyone pretending it has ever been anything more than that should neck themselves immediately.

how hard is it to hard code Page Up and Page Down and some UI specific shortcuts on keyboard? I could code it in a day

carmack and friends were accidentally right in throwing out 99% of the lore and story though

That's the difference, retard. Doom wasn't written at all, zoom was.

Somebody really saw that Carmack quote about story in video games and said "and I took that personally"

story in video game is like story in a porn movie

Is the BFG there? It's not a Doom game if it isn't there.

Doomguy was not a regular human, he was a marine

ah yes, purposely introducing typos in fantasy name

maker

elsewhere

ogre

what else?

Yeah they made the game shitter so what bro just ignore it looooool!

So why are you in the thread complaining about people complaining

lowercase m

gotta give credit to 40kTROONS for that

All of that was in eternal, yeah.

Doomguy goes through Doom 1 and 2

By that point is pretty insane

Protoss find him and juice the shit out of him because they wanted a demon killing machine for their war

Rocks fall, time passes

DOOM 2016 happens

Protoss actually use demonic rituals btw, they're cunts like that

Doomguy kills the protoss and also the demons

Doomguy wanders off

Pretty straightforward, fine by me. The DLCs for Eternal on the other hand are completely incoherent.

I-I'm not shit, the game is too fast!

Okay here's a slower game.

It's too slow now!

Here's a gamespeed option in the menu, and you can tune the difficulty higher too.

Difficulty settings, in a shooter? Did I mention DEI, reddit, BBC, and communism!?

D-e-what? I just like making fun video games.

I've never seen Anon Babble get filtered so hard, and seethe harder than over this man's work. He's like the epitome of "do nothing, win." Based Hugo.

@grok what is 709624131 yapping about?

In completely ignorable flavor text. Yes. If that bugged you so much, kill yourself. There's one unskippable cutscene in the entire game, and it's like five minutes long. Hayden's office, and that's literally it. Aside from that, there's literally no story in "zoom" you little bitch. There's a lot more incoherent shit in Eternal, but even then it's still completely skippable. The gameplay in both games is great, and the only excuse people have for hating it is genuinely getting filtered. My only nitpick is that nuDoom plays more like Quake than Doom, with how much bouncing and vertical traversal you're doing. But if it had the original mazes with monster closets from the 90s, people would bitch at that too. Case in point: every asset-flip boomer shooter clone on Steam that plays exactly like Doom did.

he went full retard with the marvelshit and fromslop shit, it's time for a new director

2016's story was basically perfect because it was so open ended on the specifics that it fit neatly with everyone's perceived conceptions of what Doomguy traditionally was/is. It made him sound cool after being a staple in the gaming world for so long. Eternal was so amazingly up his ass with cringe lore that jumps from point to point, it was just awful. Looks like they are continuing with the deluge of cringelore in Dark age

If that bugged you so much, kill yourself

How about I just shit on your precious basedgame? Maybe rip and tear your asshole, hmmm? Bet you'd like that, faggot retard.

So now that this is confirmed zoomer trash, what the fuck am I supposed to play FPS wise?

If this is the best you can do to whine and complain then it must be good game.
I will now buy it.

modern gamers need lore and story. face it

LE HEAVEN IS ALSO LE BAD TOO ACTUALLY

Totally original plot point that has never ever been ever used in fictional media before!

Gets filtered.

Immediately goes to gay sex.

Yeah, you're not proving you're not a faggot, faggot.

"the doom slayer" is such a faggy name, man

QRD? (Haven't played Eternal or this yet, only 2016.)

I love OP but holy fuck this was one of the worst things to ever happen to it. It legit made me question Oda's vision, or at least how much agency he has over the story.

I really hate capeslop, but not nearly as much as the grown adults who love that garbage and eat it up.

Instead of being edgy satanic kikeshit like the original Dooms, it's aliens fighting an eternal war that only kinda resembles Christianity vs. Satanic Evil.

This is still an issue.

Christcucks will find any reason to complain and fuel their martyr complex, won't they?

Yes they completely destroyed the premise of the franchise for Marveshit multiverse alien bullshit. Thanks for telling us.

le ebin rip and tear ;^)

it's what you all wanted, now pay the 80 bucks, eat the fucking shit and say thank you

kek

The funniest thing about people like you though is that you're usually weebs who like equally retarded shonenshit, but with a gook flair. I hate both, and like nuDoom, because the shit story is easily ignored and the gameplay is fun as fuck. Cry more.

What was so bad about him just being a mundane grunt who kills demons?

play Doom

there's a codex section with walls of boring text

Wtf, even doom 3 wasn't that retarded

The premise.

Uh, of the original games? Literally "hell invades mars colony, kill all demons." If they want to add "lore" to it I can easily not read while playing the game, whatever. As a wise man once said, story in games is like story in porn.

i love the guy but he needs to just keep remaking doom eternal please
this game is too melee focused, guns swap too slow to feel as relevant. or are too weak.
some great designs and looks cool but the HUD and all that is so intrusive.
he should make doom eternal 2

hell invades mars colony, kill all demons

Now read your own fucking post slowly and try finding the word alien in there you illiterate retard.

space marine

@GamesWorkshop @FBI
DO SOMETHING AIEEEEEEE

People thought Doomslayer was a cool because he hated demons and that kinda made him like an angel so the devs rewrote his story to make him as unchristian as possible because white religion bad.

Doom WADs are free and more fun than any nu-Doom game. This has been known ever since 2016 but everyone is pretending to be surprised by how cringe the latest Doom game is. And if you are genuinely surprised I have no idea what the fuck you were expecting.

libturd be like

SAVE LE HECCIN PLANET, STOP USING LE PLASTIC

and the next second be like

OMG NU DOOM POOP FIGURE 8O

OP truly good up until Gear 5.
I liked how Luffy overcame difficulties by trying out different bullshit that his rubber body allowed him to do.

survives being thrown into the sea italian mafia style by Arlong thanks to Genzo and Nojiko pulling out just his head from under the water

can withstand Eneru power, but he isn't yet powerful enough to overcome his mantra, so he makes his punches get thrown at him in an unpredictive manner due to the recoil when punching a wall

he can increase his blood pressure due to the fact that even his veins and artheries are rubbery, so he won't fucking explode when going Gear 2

powerups having a somewhat coherent explanation was pure kino.

Nah, I prefer OP demigod niggas

Play the KFDoom Kiwi Dreams mod. More fun than this slop.

its a shame they turned doom guy into pelinal whitestrike but worse with warhamemr 40k bullshit autism of hugo martin

didn't the same thing happen to Naruto?

that audiolog in eternal where the female scientist says "maybe he is a god..."

They went out of their way to make me roll my eyes

worse luffy its the son of some rare martial arts users ki called HACKi

Doomguy solos 40k though
He's clearly Martin self insert

people acting like this wasnt the same fucking dialog in 2016

Holy fucking goldfish memory, this is almost word for word of the audio logs you find in 2016 with the demon talking about "the slayer".

doom 4 hell lore stated doomguy as ash in the third evil dead movie not a god of war slave of obese technoangels and space cuckvikings

kys tranny

yes but naruto was since from start stated he is just a villified orphan nepobaby with a nuke inside his belly

retard

These games just keep getting lamer and lamer with each new entry. The image of the doom guy went from average soldier driven by pure rage to fucking Superman levels of bullshit. I can't believe someone got paid to write that garage, the "demon script" names are so cringe.

and then they had that reincarnation thing right?

too bad these wiseman contradict himself with doom 3

Changing the context of the demons to not make them literally from the Christian Hell (because fuck you, DAD, I'm a metalhead now! I like bands like SLAYER and IRON MAIDEN now, and I play D&D too, hail satan!) is bad because....

doom 4 is where the whole backstory of him joining space knights and getting imbued with divine power is mentioned, everything ran from there because of stupid lore youtubers presumably
remember there was a whole base of people giving him a stupid backstory about being a knight traitor based off doom 4

yup i dunno dont remember naruto nor care i only liked kakashi character and draw design being same as rikimaru of tenchu but anime goofy

It showed everyone that oda was a hack and was just pulling shit out of his ass for 2 decades

spaceviking not technoangels anway they retconned even the scheming nerd botguy being some incognito fallen angel

i never watched it, i just know that fans hate the reincarnation thing
as for anime, I think it's cool for the most part but never watched one properly

not a christfag but them trying to give some sloppy backstory to "Hell" it didn't need was pretty gay

That's kind of the point. You, the player, are Doom guy, you don't care about this story and it's intentionally over the top and grandiose to the point where you would have to take time out of your day to read every part of it. You're just there to shoot things with your chain gun until they explode into gibs, and the story treats you that way.

still, the "sentinels" and "seraphim" are Doom 4 original sins and their positive reception is what lead to Eternal's awful story. why they threw out Samuel Hayden's character I have no idea, that was just twists for twists sake

I hate how 2016 set up a future confrontation with Samuel Hayden then in Eternal he's just a vegetable. That really pissed me off because it was actually a story I cared about in a Doom game, and they threw it away for capeshit-tier bullshit

Wasn't he supposed to be some us marine?

That hasn't been Doom guy since Doom 3.

you kill him in first dlc with a crappy bossfight with buffed ads and enviromental damage the most lame and gay possible(thankfully it isnt a marauder type fight) including evil doomguy naked flashing with no cock

Why do game developers hate christianity so much? It's like they try their absolute hardest to make everything rick and morty marvel reddit cringe. It's just like the Castlevania show trying to use reddit fedora cringe to explain vampires are scared of pythagoran shapes and not because it's the cross.

Millenials and genX in a nutshell

This honestly is the part of the story that really got ruined for me. Then in the fucking last DLC we find of God is just a guy in power armor. How can the creator of the universe be killed by a 12g shotgun? Is he weaker than an elephant? It made no sense ofther than tl add a stupid twist tl the end of eternals story.

It's a safe target, nobody is going to call them racist for it or bomb their office for it.

apparently any weapon held by the slayer becomes powerful enough to kill demons if it wasn't already all part of his divinity machine boons hence why you can use a simple chainsaw to kill demons that were stated to be immune to every conventional weapon as long as it's him using it
so I guess that's why Dark lord could lose to his shotgun

i don't get why he needed a fucking mech though

Christianity has been a kosher punching bag for several decades now, you only just now started to notice?

It's fun, easy, free, and comes with no negative repercussions whatsoever

the entire DOOM premise is such hot garbage, including the gameplay, including the graphical effects, including the vibe and theme. It's like a Bionics game for little kids. Mega "epic" music while you shoot little rainbow colored weapons and make the equally ridiculous clown like demons explode into colorful spray. Yeah sure, some dude with a shotgun is going to make the building sized demons be scared. It's such an absolute joke. The demons even have guns and sci fi energy shields too. Why? How? Nobody cares. Just tatatata, click the animated npcs dead you dumb little monkey with a few braincells. If shooters are for idiots then DOOM is for the youngest and dumbest arcade gaming idiots

Hayden is actually kinda cool

chill man, it's just a fucking video game and it doesn't even have the most ridiculous plot out there

Christianity is a semitic religion, dumfuck

Did you forget Doomguy died at the end of Ep1, fought his way out of Hell, and returned to Mars/Earth? He quite literally stopped "being a normal guy" after Episode fucking 1.

it is the most offensive to me because it acts like it's christian themed, evil vs. good. Meanwhile it's just a clown zombie shooter and the story is that you are a dude with giga plot armor.

shouldve just kept him as either a very angry guy or just a force of nature, going into lore is retarded

nah it was a cliffhanger for episode 2 back in the day like gordon being stuck with the flamethrower alien in half life 1 demo

christian

white religion

Do cuckservatives really?

Nope. Try again.

hayden its fine as the nerd you dont give a shit then piss off and fucks you then you punch him later without layers of lore plot armor and muh khan maykr and hellpriests

Jews hate christianity so it is the white religion. Seethe schlomo.

Regardless how is the "god" of that universe less impressive than half the demons you fight?

I’ve been a contrarian for 10 years now maybe they’ll listen to me!

Eat shit and die, niggerhomosexual.

soundtrack is shit

story is reddit cringe

gameplay is consoletard cinematic simon says trash

this is the game that kills the series

I don't think it acts that way, there are even eldritch beings in the latest game, I feel like it's just trying to be goofy yet take itself seriously at the same time and that doesn't always work but Christian?
got lazy at the last part of the dlc's development probably lmao

imps in 2016 were fucking bullshit, literal input reading

chainsaws for magic ammo

shoots epic Arachnotron™ weakpoint after lining up shot for 5 seconds while dashing side to side because pro Quake™ skills

retarded door opening cutscene plays

"Mhmm....rip and tear.. looks like the Hell Priest™ is nearby.. I will rip and tear because I am the ancient Doom Slaya™

"Come on, Vega™"

follows Skyrim™ compass

Picks up 10 epic fanfiction-tier lore dumps about how badass the Slaya™ is on the way

Door locks behind the Slaya™ and demons appear

cacophony of retarded monster noises while the fart synth kicks into action

chainsaws for magic ammo

"Rip and tear" WUBWUBWUBBWAMBWAMDUUUUUNUUUUNUUHHHNHUHHH *Uses Flame Belch™ on a deliberately spawned group of Possessed™ and they become Staggered™, does a badass Heat Blast™ and Armor Shards™ fly into the Slaya™'s face*

chainsaws for magic ammo

switches weapons 75 times

dashes aimlessly waiting for a Possessed™ to spawn

chainsaws for magic ammo

swings on monkey bars

performs impse

250 arena laps and 150 chainsaw uses later the Slaya™ is victorious

Mhmm.. The Hell Priest™ is not here.. Better tell Samuel Hayden™ about this

"Come on, Vega™"

Walks two meters and Alien Queen™ appears in an epic cutscene

"You will not defeat me, Slaya™, I am the Emperor of the Universe and you are nothing but a Usurper™, the Kar En Kuk™ Council of Elder Alien Space Sentinel Argent D' Nur™ has banished you from the alien kingdom and I will defeat you!"

Cut to black and level ends before epic boss fight so player can process how epic this is and maybe make a Reddit™ post about it before carrying on

DUNDUNDUNBWAMBWAMBWAM Mick Gordon farting BAM BAM BAM 50 ACTION POINTS 5 CRUCIBLE CREDIT SENTINEL SHIP ARGENT RECEIVED

ost and story fair but the gameplay doesn't seem that bad

Doomguy was always a marine with some slight extra power. It wasn’t until the end of 64 and the beginning of the new story that he was submitted to a divination machine. It may be retarded but at least it isn’t a full reboot.

It only makes sense. A regular human would job to one demon. Him being able to kill millions with no special powers makes zero fucking sense

being a disingenuous nigger

nobody asked for simon says parryslop you fucking nigger

yea instead you have to listen to audio logs that are impossible to hear unless you turn the game sounds down to 5% or keep the PDA open for five minutes each time just to hear a fucking 3 number code for lockers

Sick, I just boughted.

He's the player character, that's the special property. No need for garbage fanfiction to explain it

The way they did it sucks, but it's also no better to play at having your cake and eating it too by wanting a perfectly average if not tenacious human that's also completely unkillable and super powerful.

based

this game is too melee focused

So like in Eternal the game where nothing die from your guns, only you fisting cutscenes

Doom lore has literally nothing to do with Christianity lmao. The maykrs are literal false gods.

i will never understand people who think luffy was ever some underdog. his first loss was against crocodile in alabasta, up until then the only real struggle was arlong. he's been talked about as being fated to find the one piece for a LONG time.
the fruit being nika doesn't change him one bit, it wouldn't have awakened if he hadn't had his journey

According to who? You?
Judgement Day comes for all who don't believe.

it only worked because he believed it, thats the ability of his fruit, if he ACTUALLY had a rubber fruit he would job to everyone and have to train like 10x more then MAYBE he will scratch Crocodile

It doesn't make sense that five countries of retarded brown jewish mutt golems defeated germany but it happened in real life

This is what you actually deserve for being braindead enough to stomach that art style

Not since Eternal

Disgusting power fantasy, bethesda better not do this shit in tes 6

Why would being an angel be better? That's incredibly generic.

doomguy is probably a creation of the real god of the game. he's like the hand of God, gods wrath, the will of God. He's meant to correct existence since it's all fucked up.

arnt almost every action hero videogames power fantasy because you would be the guy to do everything anyway?

fantasy/science fiction HAS to make sense, otherwise I'm simply unable to slurp it up! >:(

You're the very definition of a faggot

Bethesda should also make guilds mutually exclusive to prevent that very thing.

Does he talk in this one?

in the original he only said No
in this one he says Run as a warning to Novik before he shoot
power fantasy in a story driven world where everyone deserves recognition is shit but in a goofy action game with no real story and the player wants to just fuck shit up like a badass who the hell cares?

If you don't worship jews you are one

End your miserable existence NOW

(((They))) hate the "regular guy overcomes extreme odds through sheer determination" stories

troons did this.

Doomguy was not a regular guy, he was a certified badass, and that was enough.
This doomslayer stuff also worked well in 2016, even if you still make it so that is the same doomguy

He killed thrembillion of demons and they shit their pants when they hear his name, he is also that marine, he is that fucking cool that demons think he is some demigod or something

That's very cool I like that

well, actually he was gifted infinite power and speed by some alien faggots, btw here is 40 pages of explaining who they are, and also another 40 explaining how he contacted them and got buffs and here is other 40 explaining...

Aaand straight into the trash. Keep it fucking simple, read the carmack quote or something retards

cant even complain about shitty doom writing without poltard nignogs

Pretending you’re a woman is just weird man. Please stop ;(

Luffy had to train for ten years before he got his fruit abilities and strength to the point where could even begin his journey.

muh atheism is good

Atheism is just a vertent of the talmud, you still worship moloch and baal while hating Christ and GOD In Heaven

Lol you kikes never denounce the Talmud and this goyim founds it hilarious.

Jews also hate mudslimes, so I guess mudslimes are white.

What about Duke Nukem or Wang?

Auhm hello I'm *snort* here to explain why I am the victim in all this!

Participating in the oppression olympics are we?

He is not
OG Id timeline had Keen aka Billy Blaze II born as christian as his father because BJ's experience with the Spear of Longinus made him rethink of his own faith.
Christ chose BJ to seal the demons himler wanted to unleash with the spear

See

Midwit fedora cuckholds are incapable of denouncing the talmud because if they do they have to achknowledge that the jews killed Christ and they see all of us as mindless cattle meant to serve them, and that makes them one degree closer to literal hitler.

kek

I couldn't give two shits about story in DOOM out of all games, is the gameplay any better or is it still zoomzoom you only get to use each weapon once fest

, fought his way out of Hell, and returned to Mars/Earth?

Literally not what happened. He died and went to Hell, but Hell was already on Mars so all it did was teleport him to a different part of Mars.

there is a difference between being called a hero and every single character sucking your dick, while calling you the ultimate being that has ever lived.

call them demons

don't make them demons but just some ayy lmaos that sacrifice humans, use their souls as energy and live in a fiery inferno

it's cowardly

just some ayy lmaos

I think that was the plot of the paperback novels based on Doom. That's funny, they just went with the plot of those awful Doom books I spent way too much money and time hunting down.

The worst devil fruit

It gives him super strength that lets him punch through fucking buildings from the outset and it made him impossible to kill aside from water and Buggy's bullshit.

that's one doomed space marine.

all writers arrive at self-insertion, in japan these moments come across through shinto ideology as divine ordination of the narrative's structural requirements for resolution.

even worse, its parry slop

why is there only one doomslayer? wouldn't it make more sense to form an armada of them?

kek le denounce talmud is le epic (ftw) own

Well I am sure it is in the mentally ill minds of tradcath larpers and Anon Babbleniggers where everyone who think differently is a jewish tranny out to get them.

if you play multiplayer theres many meme slayers thoughbeit

People meme for decades about Doomguy being some OP guy who can kill the demons and isnt afraid of anything

ID runs with it

NOOOO! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A JOKE! IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE REAL!

bruh this is the funniest thing on this app right now

except its more like aliens made him op for 100 pages of lore reasons nobody cares about

They aren't aliens you fucking retard. Do you think the demons in WH40k don't count as demons too? Dumb fuck.

they're literal protoss

I was fine with it up until Satan appears and he's another version of you, which doesn't seem to serve any purpose at all

OP truly good up until Gear

Fixed that for you.

Yeah. Wasn't serious. He was cool and doesn't afraid of anything, that's all that was needed. Why make a billion reasons on why he actually was buffed with magic and shit, when he was a serious sam or wang or caleb or duke nukem type of character? Badass that kills bad guys

You still have yet to denounce the talmud, curious.

Didn't know protoss used pentagrams and hellfire.

Ancient Gods showed that demons were acktually just the remnants of a long gone ayy lmao civilisation

why did they make him a proxy for some higher power instead of just a guy doing his own thing but happened to be cracked at killing demons?

r u stopid lmao? alarak does that stuff and even worse lole XD

You stupid Lorefags are so cringe.

Oooo, please shovel more narrative complexity onto my property, I want to drown the core premise in sophisticated themes and ambiguous motivations. Fuck yeah, give my favorite loreslop content farmer enough material to make another decade's worth of 30 minute breakdowns! OOOOO, SLAM THAT DATALOG FILLED WITH FART-SCENTED EXPOSITION DOWN MY SLOPHOLE HARDER, YEEEEEEEEEE I'M GONNA BUST!!!

sois and women commitees (the only ones allowed to write anything in big companies) only produce shit

white religion

lol
lmao

No it didn't. Stupid nigger.

*schnozzle perks up* yes fellow white man

Given that the majority of humans just straight up went full insane and possessed just by being exposed to hell energy, it's really hard to justify why Doomguy didn't go crazy like them.
And really, most of players want to feel special, want to be a unique character who stands above the rest so making them 'regular human' while other regular humans either die or join the cheer squad doesn't work unless they are given something.
This is why Crysis works, because you can just be a normal human but with a super special armor to do what normal humans cannot.
Or SMT/Persona, for the 'well you're still human but in reality you're already surpassing gods and demons'.

That's cool, because he started as a regular human got augmented, it's fine for him to become superhuman as long as he starts as human.
At least for me.

buggy trash weirdo sound system

twitch.tv/cohhcarnage/clip/LittleSlipperyWoodpeckerWutFace-L9qUhoULVjef3xXv

plus the gayest revive system on the entire planet, I've never seen something so gay. You literally just get a popup telling you that you died and to press OK to continue anyway

except if fucking did? did yu even play TAG?

I see green I click the button and win

But he has special power. The power of good old gunpowder. Demons are the ones who would job to humans quite easily

Naruto always had the thousand year old super god in him. It just made him an outcast when realistically it should have made him be thrown into a cage trained to let it out on his villages enemies.
Then naruto turned into dragon ball lite after the time skip with new forms being made up on the spot.

it's really hard to justify why Doomguy didn't go crazy like them.

majority of humans

majority

Fucking dumbass

blud cooked too hard

If that's the case then the soldiers in 2016 and Eternal would have done the job and Doom would only need to take care of the bosses instead of doing almost everything by himself.

The Doom Slayer is more akin to a natural phenomenon than a real character

you're still retarded
he's just a tough as nails marine

B-B-BUT MUH 90 mph with 15 guns

shut the fuck up

Jekadd is not a fucking alien civilization you moron. It was the Doom equivalent of heaven or whatever you want to call the first and highest form of existence. It was literally made by the Doom "God".

if you think about it the stupid superfluous shit started with naming nudoom guy "Doomslayer" instead of just "Doom"

naruto wasn't thrown into a cage like gaara because he was a nepobaby
they both were but sand village are commie cunts

jaked

i dont care about ur sharty memes retard, go back

All shounen does it

Luffy has god god fruit

Naruto is the reincarnation of the original ninja god

Ichigo has like bloodline of almost every species

You could argue that Deku and Tanjiro are just regular guys without superpowers, but still.

tanjiro is a based siscon thoughbeit

t. never played the game

-You die at the end of KDID, your soul and body are transported to Deimos, which is floating hell by now, you jump after a failed rapel all the way to Hell's surface which is meaty and leaves a huge crater, by now you are a superhuman demigod and proceeds to deal with the Spider Mastermind only to discover that hell invaded earth through UAC's portals at your hometown while you were dealing with all of EP4's shenanigans trying to reach earth.
-Then you reach Earth, there are survivors that are escaping but the last starbase has been corrupted by the demons, on which you stop their occupation and proceeds to deal with the Invasion at the source, your Hometown, where you finish the job and kill the OG Icon of Sin who was still materializing into realspace.
-Then Final Doom happens and the other Episodes happen.
-By now you are clinically insane, hearing voices, and keeping away people and having certain "dreams", until the brass calls you again and tells you that the Demons have returned but this time it will be the ultimate showdown not at the moons, but Mars, the Main UAC base which you never set foot and the main portal and ancient ruins the UAC found was located, you go there, kill the mother demon and decides to stay as the portal closes behind you, to make sure none of it will happen again and to keep Hell away from your home.
-During this time you went on a one man rampage all over other timelines and dimensions chasing down hell and its minions who kept re-inventing themselves to face you(every single wad you played) and met people in process(Samus and others who were dragged into this shitshow by accident) whom you keep them away as you seal their portals so hell wont invade their worlds again.
-Then the flashbacks of Eternal happens, The Makyr finds you, then Dark Ages, and then you are sealed.
-Many millenia later 2016 happens, Then Eternal, and lastly after you are sealed again, Quake Champions and Quake 3 Arena.

Is it just me or the weapon designs are getting worse?
Like, even the skull meme gun looks boring and uncreative.

And Yes, Quake 3 Arena is the every end of all id games timeline, it is literally a containment prison for superpowered people to kill each other for the eternity.

lorefagging DOOM

gameplay is just Serious Sam but worse

I just shoot the demon. I like when I shoot the demon. I like doom. Culture war? That sounds like pussy shit.

the story is cringe and too tryhard with the lore stuff

I know right? there are billions of skull shattering and piece spitting guns in games, so unoriginal!

christianity

white religion

lmao

serious sam but qtes out the ass

So its stayed true to doom gameplay. Nice. Picked up

Adding an actual story to doom is so fucking retarded. I hate lorefags so much.

Doom: Tranny Edition

Mmmm Huge tranny cock.

We've had literally this for 50 fucking years now
Fuck off

All of that and John carmack watched Impse and confirmed that Doomguy was a virgin

criticism about doom lore being lame as shit

immediately think about culture wars

I get it, you think accusing people of engaging in culture wars will get them to shut up, but it doesn't work.

All this nu-Lore is so fucking lame. He looks like a power ranger, Maykrs is a fucking dumb name, it's too far removed from the goat faced demons and screaming face stylization of Hell from the original games. Even the violence feels really toned down, it feels so fucking PG-13 now.

OG Doom's minimal story and presentation shits all over this, fuck off with your "caring is le gay lmao" crap. Way too many underage retards on Anon Babble anymore.

I stopped watching OP about midway through the fishman arc. At no point did I ever think that the Luffy had a weak fruit. I don't think anyone thought that.

All knowledge of the Doom Bible escapes the "boomer's" mind when he needs to explain why Doom 2016 and Eternal's stories don't matter.

-You die at the end of KDID, your soul and body are transported to Deimos

Nice head canon retard. The death ambush at the end of the first episode is a leftover from early development when they planned to have multiple player characters, it's where Buddy Dacote Dies At Conclusion Of This Episode was supposed to bite it. Nothing in the text after that even remotely implies you died.

That's so based bro. Still not dying for Trump Tower in Gaza though.

a spectre of doom

the slayer of doom

which one is it?

You're behind on your current thing schedule, lib, Trump is currently rebuking Israel at every turn

specter of doom

slayer of DOOM

place vs. adjective

nu-Doom puts the story front and center

"durr why u care"

Dipshit.

It's funny that like 30 years later I still mentally dub stuff over with this voice

T-Tom hall

is not, you die at the end of EP1 and tom is a fag

I'm not a God, not even a genius really. All that you've seen is the result of a painstakingly slow series of steps. That's what science is all about.

What happened to the DOOM marine though ? is he doomguy or yet another dude ?

Doom 3 guy? Completely different dude.

doom 3's doomguy? floating off in his own continuity

Don't care. Didn't read a single page of lore in 2016 or Eternal. However I will not be playing The Dark Ages because I don't want to spend thousands on a new gpu.

2016 has a few reference to DOOM 3 though

doom 3 had references to doom 1 and 2 too, 3's not hard connected by anything more than visual gags

Now that Doom is a multiverseslop, it's not hard to imagine than in some parallel universe Doom 3 did happen.

The Slayer

tranny obsessed retard

He's not a demigod
He's a cuck who got infused with alien spunk and it gave him powers

Well, he's descendant of Wolfenstein's protagonist, whom in TNC he's jewish descendant

Adachi was right.

Is this going to be another case of Eternal where the writing is so bad it heavily detracts from the rest of the game?

Maykrs

makers
they made the doom guy

who let tiny itty bitty boat unc cook? like fr?!

more like they made the doom gay

Because it's fucking retarded and unnecessary? Everyone had the same problem with the live action movie back in the day. Just have the balls to make them demons. Make the final boss Satan, fuck it. The concept is "portal to Hell opens", it's extremely cut and dry. We don't need to dilute it with capeshit lore and loopholes. Everyone knows what Hell is or what it's supposed to be. And yes, it ties in with the metal aesthetic that Doom was built around so the strawman is actually right in your fantasy scenario.

Doom 3 managed to do it just fine.

I miss when Hayden was just a robo ceo instead of a dumb secret alien angel.

Slay Queen

how does he do it?

/thread
kill yourself

probably one of those cases where nobody gives a fuck about the story in any depth or detail except for Anon Babble complaining it's tacked on because there's not much else to complain about

I like when when hero sacrifices himself so he doesn't get ruined in stupid sequels

I'm so tired of lore-wank bros

doom is supposed to be about shooting demons with a shotgun not whatever gay shit this is

>ID runs with it

by giving it a hard and fast explanation that you're not actually doing anything special at all but are a designed bioweapon of one ayy civilization to fight another ayy civilization that went rogue instead of a man who really wants his bunny back

Deku

They jumped the shark with that one too with the 7 quirks bullshit.

A woman wrote this slop.

Based.

Doomguy defeated Hell in Eternal.

Sam literally accomplished nothing, Earth got mooned in 3 and he's stuck in endless prequels.

I think that was always intended, with the name of his power and all

You also still shoot demons with a shotgun. Don't open the lore book thingy if you don't want it.

This, but at least the reddit bugmen are happy.

Should be far more concerned that the gameplay is ass and the music is dogshit.

Except Sam killed Mental and stopped him from mooning earth

duke nukem's health and armor is literally his own ego

wtf why did they make doomguy into a cosmic powerhouse

Bro you made the meme though?

by now you are a superhuman demigod

Nice asscannon martin.

tom is a fag

Should've said that earlier so I could ignore all your schizophrenic babble.

2009

most of nu/v/ wasn't even born back then

The Maykrs

Notice how nowhere in this post it's implied Doomguy is a chosen one or was blessed by gods to kill demons or Satan's twin brother or whatever?

man, you can just shoot the demons, in the original doom zombiemen and especially shotgunners can take on imps at least

Anon, I've got bad news about Jesus Christ.

Anon, stories are symbolic. By trying to give his strength and resiliency a diegetic explanation, you ruin the symbolism. His strength symbolizes mankind overcoming evil. He's a character, not a literal person fighting literal demons.

He hasnt been "just a guy" since doom 2016

Feels like this shithole is just trying to be contrarian for the sake of it now. You all said this stuff was fine in 2016 because it was optional, and it still is.

neato burrito

so they managed to make doom (yes the game where u are normal guy shooting demons) some cape marvel slop shit with le heckin deep lore huh

vampires are scared of pythagoran shapes

That is fucking nonsense. I'm glad I dropped that show.

Even fucking Kirby is this now, I can’t wait for the eggworld dizzy reboot where dizzy is the makings of a new multiverse destined to reboot the old one.

There's no practical difference. "Tough regular" guy is just a more disingenuous character trope because it comes off as a steal Mary Sue trying to have the cake and eat it too. It's like how humans as a race are memed as nothing special, except for how the story and writing are usually designed around us winning no matter what even when it makes no sense.

The first season was fine when it was a few rotten apples fucking up the church, but then they went overboard.

Kirby always had stuff going on in the background. Most of Kirby Super Star on the SNES and Kirby's Adventure on the NES is about shit going on in Kirby's world. Dark Matter has been a thing since Dream Land 2.

Batman is popular for a reason, man overcoming the odds makes for kino fiction. It’s why history textbooks jack off to the American revolution as much as they do.

I'm still mad about the Divinity Machine retcon in Eternal. He should have remained a regular guy who was so good at killing demons that they mistook him for a demigod when he really wasn't. 2016 nailed it perfectly, and Eternal fucked it all up. What's worse is they also ruined Samuel and Vega as well. What the fuck Hugo why couldn't you contain your love of Marvel SLOP.

he was fucking 5 or 6 that wasn't so much "training" as much as growing the fuck up

they kill my boy

lol this post riled up the Anon Babblefags

he can't punch demons' heads off if he's a normal guy

That's the problem, though. If everyone has to be some sort of super hero, because it's the only thing that "makes sense" or "is realistic", then it stops being special. Doomguy stood out because he was just some regular dude who had a knack for killing demons

True

additional problem being he's clearly got something going on if he can kill demons period let alone do it with regularity, he was the sole survivor of the mars base

zoom eternal and "it's 2016" as it is already go with the line that doomguy WAS an extremely cracked normal human who was killing demons for ages before getting hit by gamma rays but he didn't start knocking demons' heads off with his bare hands until that

So, they're basically just regular americans?

nta just never explain shit and people who would only be satisfied with an answer would make their own headcanons or whatever
I mean Sam faces fuckers bigger than him and lifts tons of weapons and soaks up bullets and worse shit and he doesn't need an explanation, he's just badass

Did you forget he dies in the first episode in the very first game? He's obviously not normal.

vampires are scared of pythagoran shapes and not because it's the cross.

The nanosecond I see someone defending that gay ass scene is the nanosecond I know they're opinion should be discarded

How do they jump?

I don't get it

This has been canon since 2016.

youtu.be/T5UF6ashzkw?t=98

Christcucks and their eternal persecution complex. You're so hypocritical it's not even funny. You're just lite the jews you claim to hate.

This is why I love Samus Aran and the Master Chief.

it's a moot point to me regardless since belief still works in castlevania netflix, but they did go completely up their own ass with the "no magic, only science" fedora tipping that fantasy media keeps liking to do and wedgied themselves by accident showing holy water being sacramented very early on

this faggotry predates ultrakill it was in doom eternal

I hate how the internet used to be organic funposting and now we have corporations trying to capitalize on it. Fucking 2016 blows and I don't know why you guys give it a pass, normalfag retards accessing the internet through smartphones discovered the Doom comic and jokes surrounding it and tried to make money off of that. That should anger and upset you.

Making him a demigod is so fucking lame.

Your not the target audience, the retards who think this is epic and cant play a game unless their literal unstoppable gods at the end of the game are.

Doom lore has literally nothing to do with Christianity lmao.

It's just Gnosticism, something that is pretty closely tied to Christianity by virtue of being an early Christian heresy

FEED
AND
SEED
UNTIL IT IS CHUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not him, but it feels so lame to not be the target audience for a Doom game.

by now you are a superhuman demigod

Where the fuck did this come from?

Can't bring Samus or Chief in this because it'll be considered non-canon in their universe due to no Nintendo/Microsoft involvement.

It boils down to 2016 and onwards being written and developed for the guys that thought "RIP AND TEAR YOUR GUTS" was funny.

We never saw his training as a child until well after it was established that he was an absolute freak raised by wolves and tigers he beat the snot out of, and that the D. was the same fucking D. as the one Roger had.

It is funny. That's not why it's shit. It was written by normalfag who saw "RIP AND TEAR YOUR GUTS" on their smartphone and thought "how can I make money off of this while also making a game my retard kids can play because I'm a stupid normalfag and impregnated some dumb whore normalfag years ago?"

All this obsession over what normalfags think and I guarantee you didn't clear "Zoom" Eternal on its harder difficulties. Somehow it was beneath you.

hey stop insulting normalfags I bet you didn't (arbitrary unrelated task)

You should hate normalnigger filth. If you don't, go back.

without my posting gimmick... i am.... nothing.........

unless you eat full bowl of shit you can't criticize it

Also what anon said.

defining my self-worth and opinions in terms of normalfags

i will never take memes this seriously.

all this cool shit including UAC mechs and we never see them in action

This hurts

character is given a power so absurdly busted it literally breaks his body using it

learns to control it at a lesser power to use it without that huge drawback

lol jk o my 7 quirks asspull no drawbacks insanely powerful upgrade

MANY such cases.

I'm not a Christian by any means but would it not be more blasphemous to have a pissed off human directly demons and come out on top?

I thought the whole point was that only God could do that.

There doesn't need to be a long-winded explanation for why a mortal man can do the impossible.

Guts

a mortal

The Berserker armor practically makes him an immortal god at the price of his vision and sanity.

I appreciate the cross being a useful tool in Sons of The Forest, but yeah Christian influence in games have been niche for a while, just like Hollywood films. Jews hate Jesus and Christians (and everyone nonjew) so much they try to genocide the believers since the original seething.

Ok. So does this thing

impbros...
he can gib us with his fist now...

Guts swings around a 400lb sword like a toothpick, there's nothing normal about him.

What the fuck is that shitty font though.

You sure rustled some jimmies with this

skill issue

Look up that quote by Carmack regarding stories in vidya

It's all in the technique.

Tranny dildo game.

good morning saar

Deku

regular guys without superpowers

wat
also Tanjiro kinda had a couple asspulls what with just happening to remember exactly how to do the dance his father used to do that actually turned out to be the super omega demon killer wombo combo technique that is the progenitor to all the other techniques and is the only thing that can kill the big bad
and then he and everyone else get retarded enhancement and xray hax to level the playing field because the demons were too strong for their puny human selves
it's not really as egregious as other asspulls because they all get gored by the final boss anyway, the real problem is the final boss jobbing to five gorillion different poisons
god what a mess

yeah a REGULAR human would, Doomguy is the creme of the crop of humanity, the best of the best with loads of training and an indomitable will to avenge his pet bunny, there are humans irl that do or did extraordinary things that no AVERAGE human can do or would do but it doesn't mean they aren't fucking humans.

You faggots are so predictable it's unreal.

this lore shit is so gay
i just want to shoot demons

Imagine a fatty dying in Walmart from cravings and eating as much crap as he could in the snack aisle, just for his body to serve as a cannibalistic meal for the nurglings.

Doomguy is still human, so idk what retarded post this is supposed to be.

In my headcanon Guts was already borderline superhuman, but especially after the eclipse when his curse made him "between two worlds," which allowed him to wield the dragonslayer with one fucking hand.

The Marine Corps (space edition) made doom guy and don't you fucking forget it.

doubled down on the cringe

It's left for you to interpret, which I much prefer.

it's really hard to justify why Doomguy didn't go crazy like them.

because he's controlled by (You)

I mean atleast he has a reason for being cartoonishly powerful
The alternative would be a Batman situation where he's just transparently thousands of times stronger then a normal human for no reason

Quake bros, I don't want a new Quake anymore. Hugo is a retard

For you maybe, I don't feel the need to pay attention to retarded shit people barely related to the original creators do myself.

unpopular opinion for this thread, this one
got niggas saying it'd be way better if he was just superhuman for no reason and humanity fuck year

meme becomes a plot point

at least*
than*

if anybody was going to make a new quake it's machine games (bad)

i bet you love chosen one tropes, fag

No one but retards wants a new Quake from this retard. They pulled full blown Avengers with nothing but "guy goes to hell and kills demons". Imagine the amount of marvel shit they will pull out with elder gods.

MARIO CANT KILL A BIG TURTLE MONSTER AND JUMP 30 FEET IN THE AIR
THIS IS TOO UNREALISTIC
UGHHH I JUST CANT

shut the fuck up, realismfaggot

Did we ever actually get to see human forces in action against the demons?

Yep, the more is see there more unappealing it becomes.

Ok movie bob

I respect this one cause at least they took away his unearned powers and turned him into a wagie cuck

but neither of them is a normal human, they both have super genetics

he says that while posting a pic of literally divine-blessed demigods

In all the doom games, when you watch what doom guy does.

DEY DID THE FRICKIN UNLIVING THING

I don't think we did. We didn't even see what Earth looked like before it got fucked by demons hard. They skipped all of that along with the Slayers escape from 2016's ending.

2016

cool cyborg CEO

shiternal

gets retconned into some retarded alien cultist

eternal a SHIT!

Erm.. awkward!

youtube.com/watch?v=HCAmoN8jqy4

It's From soft in the room with us, anon?

True, but even for them, they fight impossible odds because many Bounty Hunters and Spartans that try to do the same as them, die in battle and fail while Samus and Chief always succeed and survive. They simply change their universe's fate.

Hayden is cool in 2016 and then they completely rewrote his character and nature in Eternal for no reason

His hydrocephalus is getting worst

that's exactly what Doomslayer did until he got into that divinity machine
Samus also used to be not as powerful until the reveal and getting energy absorption powers and now she's psychic

why is it that just Doomguy gets shat on here for being le OP

It's all in the wrist you manlet faggot

From W7 onwards Luffy was an underdog, he was getting btfo and straight up jobbing. Post Timeskip he became a bit of a Mary Sue but at least he wasn't the son of god yet.

Guts is the bastard son of Zodd, there's no other logical explanation as to their resemblance and Guts wielding a giant sword with ease.

I always root for the normal humans on every show and franchise or anything that has magical people and shit in it, like, yeah, of course people be glazing the cool anime guy with insta kill badass powers but to me it's so much cooler to be regular and stll be able to stand toe to toe with that stuff anyway even if it's unrealistic as hell, though of course, at some point it becomes lame as hell, like how Batman can be the coolist shit ever or complete bullshit depending on how he's handled.

Oda's vision

lol, you deserve it

The classic doom writers were on all board doom guy being catholic.
But also the ending of the dark Ages Doom Guy literally floats around in a Giant Cross killing demons, so hey.
Maybe it's not so anti Christian.

master chief pretty much has canonical plot armor. hes one tough motherfucker for sure but he shouldnt have been able to do half the shit he did

they kind of fucked up when they implied that Doomguy is some predestined demigod given his exact resemblance to the devil

why would you do this, DOOM 2016 felt so much cooler when we just thought he was a really angry Marine.

They really fucked it up with Eternal, and naturally they seem to be doubling down because of reddit faggots sucking their dick over it.

This.

usually "peak human" in fiction comes with the caveat of it not being peak human irl but rather peak human in this fictional setting, Batman irl is a shittass concept, then again, so is Superman or wonderwoman or any magic out there at all, so in a world where superpowers and magic exist making it so a "really well trained" guy can lift up a car or whatever at the very least feels fair to me still, it still can be handled pooorly and feel like bs though depending on how it's done.

The flaw of this is that you want to pretend the normals ass dude who killed god is just a normal ass dude.

No matter how regular someone starts off, at one point, they end up being a demigod by their actions alone that they would have never reached if they were just a regular dude.

the science in this anime is just laughable, the guy who wrote this probably dropped out of school before he even had a single chemistry lesson

you can make fictional worlds were the "natty limit" is higher than it is irl though, also guns are guns.

anything after og doom 2 isn't canon to me

IAM%HERO

Anon...

obviously by regular guy they mean a human without powers, yeah, he's way above average in literally all physical performance anyone irl or the doom universe seems to be able to do but at least we could think "oh he's a muscly angry guy with good genetics and soldier training or maybe he's on super steroids, whatever" which still feels more satisfying than "oh they made him a god so no wonder he styles on everyone".

based
local man too angry is based trope

2016 was the game that said he was given a power up by an angel.

that's the real and only correct answer

Isn't Marathon protag as super special cyborg who is also literally a metaphysical force of destiny?

The worst thing nuid ever did to Doom was make Doomguy anything more than just a random nameless space marine. This comic book superhero bullshit is embarrassing.

His brain got scrambled from the cybernetics and being revived post-mortem, there's no concrete proof that any of his schizo ramblings were literal.

This. People like to shit on headcanons and in general they're right but everything has a limit, like nu-doom and Star Wars

most of players want to feel special, want to be a unique character who stands above the rest so making them 'regular human' while other regular humans either die or join the cheer squad doesn't work unless they are given something.

Ironically enough for me this the appeal of normal people fighting magical stuff in fiction, I don't feel special when I seean anime protag launch a spell that explodes everyone instantaneously, and I don't feel special if I play as a vidya character that does it, it feels much cooler to me if it's a regular guy that's very competent and resilient so they can survive or even thrive in a world like that anyway.

Thematically he is a god, even if "Canonically" He's not.
He's also literally the Master Chef, who was always meant to be the Chosen one picked by God.
His name is literally a bible verse from the new testament.

Doomguy was a regular dude who was good at killing demons and found weapons like the BFG that could kill demons very effectively. He was still just a regular dude though. Now hes a demigod and its dumb. One analogy I've seen was comparing Doomguy to King Arthur. He's a regular dude who wields a holy weapon and is great because of his noble cause. Instead, they've turned him into Thor with lightning for blood and no true human struggle.

Funny how fucking DragonBall even when they get power ups from their ass they all come from training and not blessings.

we'll never get the Doom equivalent to Halo ODST where we get to play as a more regular guy dealing with hell's bullshit

Park it between 2016 and Eternal, if there's no way to make shit work thematically as some high tech human hero make it co-op so it's a combined effort for the bigger enemies. Just do fucking something, humans were fighting and losing because Hell is basically endless but they still fought.

Doomguy is a pissed off marine

Doomguy is le epic SL4Y3R rip and tear LOL uhm doomslayer runs REALLY fast and tanks rockets like nothing ?!?! XD

I can kinda delude myself by thinking "oh it was a regular dude who trained a lot and was very tenacious and had good planning and was well armed" though.Ç

In fact, isn't that the whole appeal of the human experience? Back in the caveman days if I see a hog on the forest i'm shitting my pants, but after thousands of years of knowledge and advancement of technology and social institutions we are literally the species with the highest kill count we know just cause we kept trying to become better.

Also there's a bitch in the game who also gets the power of like a True Angel or some blue shirt, that pairing with fact Doom Rides around in a gigantic Golden Cross made out of light in the end kinda makes me feel the claims of it being anti Christian is silly

Dragonball is all about those saiyan genes though, literally 80% of the people relevant in that show by the end are saaiyans cause no one else can keep up.

what is literally any action movie

are you waiting for steven seagal : origins too?

christianity

white religion

how fuckin stupid are you

Both Samus and John are genetically enhanced humans, and before that, John was deemed genetically gifted, like the rest of the Spartan II kids, to be in the program.
Master Chief is far away from being just a regular human, being mid among the top 1% stills puts you far away from being a regular ass nigga.

Well at the very least it was minimal enough that I didn't remember it and I can shrug off a powerup as "oh he's on super steroids now like captain america", that's still more satisfying than now finding out he's a super demigod used as an ultra weapon by actual heaven themed aliens

John was the worst of his group though.
His real power has always been he is literally divine.
At least according to the old Writers.

the font looks pretty bad

if not being special in a crazy world is super appealing(and it is) then why are the Tau so hated in 40k?

What the reddit is this?

Why did all the bots reply to this post

This is actually the most retarded post in this thread. Congrats.

Because they were outwardly originally made to be "The Good Guys." and people called it out for being the Gay Race Commie bullshit it was.

nta but yeah he is one of the 10 who were stated to be equivalent of a WMD in terms of destruction although this one also happens to be going through rampancy and capable of jumping between dimensions and timelines

>Gets filtered.

How? Where?

but why theres female spartans in halo?

I remeber this one time a friend of mine was recitijng halo lore to me and was telling all these ways Masterchief is badass and he was like "oh he went to this army gym once and he's like 7 feet tall so he was mogging this 6 feet tall guy but Masterchief is so genetically good and so pumped on goriall steroids that he killed him by accident when they got into a fight!"

And meanwhile I was thinking "damn nigga this isn't making me think he's cool this is making me feel lowkey inadequate"

Still, saiyans are nothing special, Goku and Vegeta are. Saiyans as a race were enslaved and eradicated long ago. If Goku and Vegeta were humans, DB would be no different than all those sci-fi stories where, despite humans having nothing going on for them, they dominate the entire narrative.

fair enough

This isn't news for anyone who played Eternal

because the gene that allows turning a human into a SPARTAN is so rare they can't afford to skip women

who the fuck let tim willits do the writing for this? dude is a total fag.

BnHA did the same but author fixed it by permanently depowering the MC. Now he needs a super suit to not DIE instantly while in hero work and the suit makes him the weakest of his team and it is not muscle so he can't train to make the suit stronger either. It's capped.
Probably the only time I have seen someone give the MC everything only to take it away from them and basically leave them forever jobbing.

why can't a nigga just be fueled by pure anger anymore

That wasn't really a retcon, him getting enhanced was mentioned in the Slayer Testament. Sammy being the guy who did it was the retcon which is dumb

Well idk about warhammer lore and don't care much for it but the concept of the tau just being a normal intergalactic society that has a very strong army seems more appealing to me than all the super steroids and weird cybernecroamncer type shit the humans are doing.

NNOOO THEY WROTE THINGS NOOOOO I CAN'T READ, NOW IM GAY FOR SOME REASON AND IT'S ALL THOSE WORDS FAULT NOOOOO

They're much better written now at least.

im my mind the mountains of demons he killed made him slowly more than human.

Yes, but the argument was that Doomguy is just some regular dude, maybe at the start. But after the whole trajectory is clear, he is not a regular dude, and he hardly was to begin with at all.

i personally like both, the idea of humans enhancing themselves genetically, magically, technologically or really in any way and basically turning themselves to monsters to beat actual ones like demons and busted aliens is cool
but being completely normal and relying on wits and equipment without enhancing yourself(maybe just a little but not to the point of no longer being human) is cool as hell

see the thing is that what you're saying is true, and it holds up for the Frieza saga, but as Cella nd Buu were coming in DBZ just became "oh let's see what way to transform are the saiyans gonna find now so they can punch mountains because they're so stroooong?"

According to lore Frieza made the whole saiyan planet explode with one beam and he killed actuall millions, Frieza when fighting goku is very obviously weaker than this even thoguh he's on his final form, the concept of "saiyans are so weak that frieza styles on 99% of them but the remaining 1% of Saiyans are so genetically gifted that they can actually make a galaxy explode if they charge their kamehameha in super saiyan 20 for long enough" at some point just seems to me like shitass writing, which it is, cause Toriyama wanted to end it but they kept trying to make him do it for longer, so he wrote week to week, I'm niot saying it's not entertaining, I loved Dragn ball back in the day and I do have a soft spot for all of it until the end of Buu, but holy shit the writing is not strong or compelling and thoughtful.

kek why is this pic so funny

Because christcucks think its wrong to defend themselves

literally 90% of shonen out there is about some chosen one teenager who has a superpower or is a super genius and they try to sell it to you as an underdog story but the reality is that he's just gifted or lucky, if it's not exactly like this, then at least it has elements of this, japanese teens love that shit. Remember back during the rise of JJK how everyone glazed Gojo even though he's literally only cool cause he got the most bullshit powerful power? People don't care if you gotta work hard for something despite your limitations, people just like the end result, so if you are a cool charcter with cool powers and who's not an annoying asshole then people are gonna call you the goat online ad nauseum.

I used to think it was because they were the clear good guys in the grimdark setting but now that they're turning space marines into the justice league with a ton of fanfare I don't know. I guess it's cause they're aliens lol

In 2016 it was implied that the armor is what tipped the scales, and they show that when Doomguy thumbs across the sigil on his helmet. Its double confirmed too because of the logs in 2016 mentioning the UAC studying the Praetor suit and being confused by how it works because it's been enhanced. A special set of armor is way different than a machine that turns you into a God.

Yeah, it's like the illusion of the underdog is enough to hook people, even if the character is born with absurd advantages. Naruto was a literal reincarnation of a ninja god, Ichigo had every power type in the series, Deku got handed the strongest quirk, and Gojo was born broken. They might struggle a bit early on, but the deck is always stacked in their favor. People say they like underdogs, but what they really want is someone who's effortlessly cool once the dust settles.

Well, the initial point was not the quality, but that despite DB being the poster child of power-ups and birthing modern shonen.
It's modern shows that go for the "the MC was secretly Jesus all along." While DB still keeps the "that new form? They just trained on another planet/ with this specific dude."
Except for Gohan and Piccolo, who actually got new forms from blessings.

Prime series powers are always a one-time gimmick, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Metroid powers I believe was put on ice for good, she's never losing that Metroid DNA but I don't see those Metroid powers coming back anytime soon given it was the end of an arc and the theme of Dread.

Again, regualr doesn't mean average Joe, it just has to mean someone without superpowers from the human species, I just thought doomguy was a big muscly guy with good training, good weapons, and on steroids, obviously that's not regular but it is more regular than magic demigod superher from the secret race of space angels

i mean there are more xenos than the Tau but they are evil, I mean all of the factions are evil but the Tau are not in your face about it
Dread kinda made Samus feel not that invincible really
She needed a special laser canon to defeat the emmis and Ravenclaw defeated her in almost every encounter and even when she finally bested him, he was this close to win in the cutscene by grabbing her until she activated her metroid form

Divinity Machine doesn't turn you into god. All the Marauders got the same treatment Doomguy did.

The traitors who were slain in the Argenta civil war were later resurrected by the Divinity Machine that had been used to empower the Doom Slayer and transformed by Hell's power, becoming demonic themselves. They now serve as an infernal knightly order, acting as a twisted mockery of the noble warriors they used to be.

Doomguy shits on Marauders because he's more skilled than them.

Space marines?

Yet Halofags get mad at the Chosen One stuff post-Bungie. You can tell who came in after Halo 1 with Halo, it's sad how obvious it is.

Cause they arent space marines. The only things that matter are space marines and chaos, eveeything else is useless fluff.

incel logic translates to fiction as well lmao, when you get lucky people will just love you if you're nice, and bitches will drop their panties anyway anyway too if you're evil in a cool way, but if you're normal or lesser and you have to work harder or make sacrifices to make up for it ain't nobody ever gonna care about that, it's just accepted as a given, no one ever gives you points for your suffering, it's just expected of you.

that video

we want the marvel cuck audience
also to all the lore anons in here who throw shit at each other, where does Doom 3 fit in all of this timeline since they went down the let's build on the narrative aspect of the franchise with the latest entries?

I think the point is that a champion can come frorm anywhere but tying to act as if the nigger who is slapping demons with his cock on the regula is just some dude anyone can be? That's the retard part.

I have never played God of War

We noticed.

True but it makes it all the more special that they're able to do what they're able to do when it shouldn't be possible.

Idiot logic. How many humans out of the tens of billions that have walked this Earth become a Genghis Khan or our Lord and Saviour Nigga Heil Hitler

John was the worst of his group though

This was never true, he beat every Spartan in his first exercise and only lost because he wasn't a team player (he still kind of isn't, lol).

I honestly believe Nylund was a feminist, female Spartans was always stupid and made little sense.

lmao even in JJK, the "strong guy who fights sorcerers without magic" is in fact also genetically gifted too, just differently, Toji has supersteroids and magic invisibility he ain't a normal guy taking on sorcerers at all, now, he wasn't as cracked as the top sorcerers of course but it's still a dinstinction worth making.

It's actualyl kind of upsetting to me just how fucked up useless the normal humans in JJK are, they are complete fodder, curses are invisible to them and the source of all their suffering and they are also the main sources of curses themselves, so they die if any of the main characters as much as touches them, they die if any curse worth a shit tocuhes them, they produce ALL the problems in the world, they need to be babies and saved by sorcerers all the time or they'd be fucked... bruh no wonder the monkey hater was a monkey hater, they really are fucking useless lol.

343 writing still sucks even if they're right about John being divine.
Sadly

There's two separate instances of Doomguy getting help mentioned in 2016, one where he gets power and the other where he gets armor. The details aren't fleshed out but they already made him superhuman by then

Guts up until that point is considered to just be a really big and tenacious human, the berserker armor is a magical item, not a superpower, the berserker armor gives him insane benefits at the risk of insane disdvantages too so it doesn't feel unsatisfying, specially when he uses it to fight demons and not just mow down fodder humans.

Pope declaring Christians God's chosen really upset the jews, huh? Sorry, kikes, God himself declared you a waste of time. Moloch isn't going to save you.

even in JJK

even

ROCKIN' SWASTIKAS CAUSE ALL MY NIGGAS NAZIS

I hate nu-writers trying too hard be epic.

Only gifts an us marine should have are those of good old Uncle Sam

I was not saying that this is unusual for JJK, I guess I wrote it badly, I meant to say that in JJK even the guy that's a "cool underdog who stands toe to toe with the big dogs" is in fact not really an underdog, bad childhood, sure, but not born weak or normal at all.

True, even more retarded that they tried to replace him after Halo 4.

getting a super armour doesn't count as a superpower to me, Tony Stark has no powers even if the iron man suit is abnomrally powerful and allows him to fight space aliens

No, he was the 'boring' one. An all-rounder while his team all excelled in a niche on top of being spartans.

Tony Stark is an uber genius. If some random dude piloted the suit, that would be closer to this thread's main argument about regular dudes. But Tony is one of the smartest people on the planet in Marvel, he is gifted, far from being a regular man, which is the entire point.

Some random nameless flavorless average joe can't carry a story, there was to be something special to them.

Ah, my mistake.

I have a soft spot for "regular humans" overcoming extreme odds

those "extreme odds" are literally impossible unless the "regular human" is magical to some capacity

meaningless retard statement that other 90 iq ate up

this youtube.com/watch?v=9foB2z_OVHc

Being very smart is still not a magical power, it's a plausible and real thing, at least in the context of the finctional universe it's set in.

The comic book trope of a guy just existing and knowing quantum physics after three lectures and being such a genius that he invents a suit to fight super villains is obviosuly unrealistic and retarded but you can suspend your disbelief a little, irl even if your brain is big you still need insane work ethic and autism to become a genius of something, and geniuses may be very smart for one field but they will usuallybe retarded when it comes to other things so there's a tradeoff, the depictions of geniuses and "peak humans with no superpowers" in comics is unrealistic but at least it's consistent within the rules it creates, in this universe super trained men can become abnormally smart and abnormally strong when we compare it to real life, but they are still more ordinary in that context as compared to superman for instance,w hich is guy that when close to the sun becomes so powerful that people have made it their actual gfulltime job online to find videos of superman beig defeated at something and complaining that it doesn't make sense because according to comic lore he can bench press the sun.

I'd rather read a story about the guy that bench presses a car than the guy that benc presses the sun even if bench pressing a car isn't really realistic if I look at the real world, one still feels more real and relatable and satifying to me than the other.

I also loved Unbreakable.