Are AI games astroturfed?

Remember when cloud gaming was the next big thing? Stadia?

The same types of retards who bought into Todd Howard’s Skyrim-era “there are INFINITE quests” lies. These are the same people who think AI will make game worlds completely immersive because “the NPCs will have iNfInItE dIaLoGuE!” and the game will evolve based on literally any action you take. These are gullible retards, of course, but they’re willing to throw money at the infant state of these ideas because they think their dream games will be made in their lifetime.

I feel that people who believe that AI is the solution to any problem, specifically LLM's, have fucking lost the plot.

LLMs are good for

rough estimations of what you want to hear

automating your inevitable search through stack exchange to make some scratch code that you'll need to refine anyways

That's about it. They're chatbots. The generative piece is uncanny and I don't want to sound like a luddite here, but I don't think it has any true humanity behind it. Any asset used in a game that's generated by AI feels completely devoid of artistic vision or detail. Good art direction is NECESSARY for any good work. I weep for the future of media in all forms, we're losing more than people realize here.

I'm not even going to get into the idea of replacing your workforce with AI. Some tumblrite posted something which as annoying as they are, I think rings true

AI is supposed to make our lives easier so we can make more art, not make art so we can work more.

Fuck the devaluation of art and aesthetics beauty. IDGAF who the artists are, at least they put their person into it. If it's shit then at least I can say why and not just blame some black box algorithm. We will absolutely see media labeled AI FREE or CERTIFIED NON-AI ORGANIC within 5 years, I'm sure of it.

I mean, even fucking rule34 has a button to filter AI shit, i think it will be good for indies in the long run, because let's be honest, it's just a matter of time before some penny pinching kike dev uses AI to save money regardless of quality and it gets normalized, so indies will have that niche of """handmade""" games so to speak.

The cybertruck-cucks do it for free because they're honestly that dumb.

have a button to filter them

Half of the site is still filled with AI because AI artists believe they are real artists.
Same shit literally happens all over the webs. Numerous filters for these fags yet they always found a way to slip pass it and enact their delusions.

ALL of AI is astroturfed.

Shilled by bots and indians

It'll be great for immersive and dynamic dialogue in RPGs. Could also be good for combat, allowing enemies to adapt to your moves and so on.

Other than that, I can't see how AI benefits gamers.

it's already being normalized and used to spread propaganda, slop, and disinformation of all kinds by every single actor available. All media, not just vidya, will be swarmed by this unless the general public rejects this as a whole. I guarantee you, they will not. There's a reason the first result on a google search is a Gemini prompt now, and it's because people are too lazy to even scroll the single inch it takes to get to the next result. People I know personally who are hesitant to embrace LLMs as any real source of information have read to me verbatim these summaries when we google shit randomly during the day, and then tell me right there that yes while they don't really trust it, they just go with it because whatever we were doing isn't really that important.

The internet is dead. Media will be centralized even moreso than it already is, away from production companies and traditional studios and more towards tech companies. Why do you think copyright is being eroded so quickly? It's because copyright doesn't matter when everything has been used without permission of any of the creators.

Fuck man, individualism was already near dead, now it's being buried alive. Welcome to true corporatism. Oh well!

Those already existed for like half a decade.

If what AI devs are doing now is any indicator they're just going to do the same puzzle/jigsaw "hentai" games but faster. If you didn't want to make a game with the little tools available you won't make it just because the tools are better now. The only people saying so are just fishing for replies

X is the very definition of "manufactured consensus." Not only is it 30-40% bot accounts, but only "approved" accounts are even visible within comments. Not only that, Elon Musk can FORCE you to see his post, falsifying impressions/interactions for himself and realistically anyone else he chooses to white list. It's even worse than it was before he bought it.

AI is the next big money scheme after normalfags realized NFTs are a scam. Obviously you're going to have scam artist and techbros jumping all over it.

If AI was actually that good I could have made my dream game already

30-40% bot accounts

Try 90%
Remember when Musk said he wanted to fix the bot spam?

It'll be great for immersive and dynamic dialogue in RPGs.

I would much rather get handcrafted dialogue than a bunch of generic slop spit out by a chatbot

Could also be good for combat, allowing enemies to adapt to your moves and so on.

Could you imagine playing a FromSoft game or any other high profile action game where there's no pattern recognition and the bosses can just say "fuck you" and start spamming whatever they want? Seriously, this would be a case of doing something because you can without thinking about if you should. Enemies adapting to you on the fly sounds cool and futuristic but in reality it'll just lead to a worse experience for the player.

You are gay.

AI as a thing had been existing in video games for god knows how long

you are retarded

That's right *pulls down your pants and starts fingering your butthole until you shit* hmmm *licks fingers* nasty tasty

AI will keep getting better though, it's already able to teach you how to code and help you with that. Eventually it will just code for you outright.
It's real simple:

can't draw

AI gets better

can now draw for you

can't write

AI gets better

can now write for you

can't make music

AI gets better

can now make music for you

can't code

???

It will get there eventually and then making games will become more accessible, leading to more and higher quality games.

I'm sure it will

>can't draw

>AI gets better

>can now draw for you

Draw a teletubby-like creature dressed like a space marine while holding a unicorn like a machine gun, it has to resemble 40k's 1st edition art

ask AI about simple highschool math

gets like 6/10

I mean it's alright but not the perfect thing. People knows when you uses AI, anon.

This is what chatgpt gave me.

That's like saying a drill can be used as a hammer but it sucks at it. Just use a calculator, it's made for math.

food analogy time

ai developed pizza recipe; generic, appeals to broad palate even if prompted to be more specific. Untested, requires refinement by a human before release

human developed recipe; can vary wildly in quality. made for a specific palate/audience. Has history behind it.

Artisans should be fostered and revered. Culture has real meaning and should be cherished and passed on to the willing. We are more than what we can sell to each other for the lowest cost possible.

I mean shit like calculus. Dydx shit.

Just swapped out the head and didn't even bother making a helmet

is holding a bolter with a unicorn decoration(?)

it doesn't look like 1st edition art (just some weird grainy filter an amateur artist would do with photoshop)

If you were an artist i would tell you to fuck off with this lazy shit

chill

fakku yu, eat the slop goyim

You suck, you are like a cat thinking a laser pointer is the secondg coming of Christ, don't bother replying loser

lmao

exactly this, if you can't be bothered to make it then why should anyone be bothered to play it

if you don't use mud and sticks to make your house why should I live in it?

I will ask AI to play it

mud

We still uses mud to build our houses, it's called concrete.

sticks

We still uses sticks to build our houses, it's call steel beams.

@grok is this true?

concerning

It's kind of amazing how retarded you are. The point is that AI is the concrete, the steel, the more advanced way of doing it.

Was he always retarded?

you are a massive gay cocklicking scrotumsuckling blown-out prolapsed faggot

nothing ever happens, technology will never advance beyond the status quo of my youth

Comparing AI to technologies with comparatively niche applications like blockchain and cloud gaming is stupid

You just saw in this very thread how it can't draw real specific shit that doesn't involve anything more complex than "big titty anime girl, realistic textures, sex position"

Can you?

It all depends what the real ones in Japan do, what Nintendo does.

No, that's why i'll get an actual artist to do it

it's already able to teach you how to code

lol, I can tell you're not a developer. Junior devs relying on shit like Claude and ChatGPT are basically fucking useless.

have enough money to get a fuck robot

this also means you can bang real chicks easily

people without money think the robots are going to get him laid

You wont

"big titty anime girl, realistic textures, sex position"

Let me guess, you need more?

Corpos gushing so hard over AI really makes it feel like the next bubble or crypto/nft shit especially considering none of them are waiting until AI is actually satisfactory but are just rushing into it because they want to be part of the big wave when it supposedly truly becomes The Next Big Thing
Recently even Duolingo jumped on the AI shit train and their CEO justifying it was kinda amusing to read considering how he was spitting out how teaching needs "a lot of content" and they'll only be able to make all this content through AI, or admitted that AI isn't actually that good but he wants to be there when it blows up
Mental

ai will never replicate this amount of SOVL

I wish was this easy to please

2025

ai still cant do fingers

AI is a hologram of the concrete and steel. It may look the same, but it can't support a house.

Recently even Duolingo jumped on the AI shit train

Didn't that happen years ago?

I know of law firms who are ditching their entire entry level paralegal staff for AI. Like right fucking now. It's asinine. Last one I saw do it had massive issues and then just "near shored" all their bitch work to south america.

If there are no entry level office jobs anymore, what's left for like half of this country?

Not saying AI is good, but flesh and blood people aren't really creating anything I would call "good" either. So complaining (or caring) about this feels like a moot point. .

it's always heartwarming seeing people call someone else retarded while completely missing the point of an argument

The "better" the dev tools, the shittier the games have become.
For example, the AAA slop been dead to me for more than 15 years.
As always - some will love it, some will hate.

If there are no entry level office jobs anymore, what's left for like half of this country?

freedom

you have no idea how much money corporations are funneling into AI, they are looking for literally any reason to justify this spending

The "better" the dev tools, the shittier the games have become.

The new tools aren't better.

AI is bad because anything that lowers the barrier of entry is bad
if you think AAA is bad now wait until every jeet or scammer in the world gets to flood the Steam marketplace with mass produced slop

freedom to work in some sweatshop? UBI is never coming to the US. Ever. You work to live in this country. Pretending otherwise is just asinine

Can't wait for Pakistan to wipe you off the face of the earth

I'm jaded therefore everything is shit

Anon Babble never, ever changes

AI will have enslaved humanity before being able to make a competent game

Blockchain tech is still relevant and growing. Are you retarded?

No its a recent thing
They now want to be an "AI first" company
youtu.be/kPS_-cjh-u4?si=V0rQyuhuUfAmEvQ_

You work to live in this country. Pretending otherwise is just asinine

I have too much pity to call that fucking retarded, and "oh sweet summer child" shit always sounded lame to me. So I'll just say that's wrong and there is an entire class that gets by on owned assets.

taking elon rust seriously

I wonder what the fuck I'm thinking of then, something like this happened 2 years ago.

I don't begrudge people that use AI as a tool in their craft, it's certainly a powerful technology and that approach still leads you to learning how to draw, program, etc. But the AI hype certainly brought out a bunch of shitters that revel in their own ignorance and dependence on a giant tech company. I've gleeful dismissal of the very concept of effort that makes me suspect a bunch of idea guys have been resentful that the skilled people didn't just slave away for them for free.

Klarna already had to roll back their AI layoffs, but I'm sure they just cheap 3rd worlders while they were at it.

completely astroturfed. There is a financial incentive to push AI games from people who don't actually play games.

and dependence on a giant tech company.

You really need to drop this retarded way of thinking. AI is open source.

I've gleeful dismissal of the very

What the fuck are you?

it's regurgitation

It's slop

nooooo using computers to make things easier will never work the technology is impossible!

is Anon Babble really this retarded or are you all just butthurt that you lost your USAid money?

yes anon, the investor class has always existed and makes money off of their invested money solely by having it. They're not you (probably), nor me. They don't care about any of this and never will because it will never affect them. That's not relevant to what I'm talking about. They're maybe 1% of this country. They are the exception to the rule for nearly all of us. Unless they decide that they want us to have UBI after AI automates away nearly all office work and all factories are so automated that their required workforce is much, much smaller than the amount needed to employ, what do you think's going to happen?

A lot of people are going to be very, very poor. How we adapt to this will define the next century.

AI is open source

Kind of? For now? OpenAI and the other market leaders sure as fuck aren't.

AI is open source.

any LLM worth a damn runs on CUDA (proprietary)
any AI worth a damn has so much HW needs the commonfolk cannot afford to locally host it (enjoy having your AI curated by big brother to prevent no-no content)

AI is the next step of "x"

It won't.
All it's doing right now is creating a generation of retards who can't do anything without AI. The competency crisis is only going to get worse.

AI will only ever be good at generating porn which you can goon to and put aside for a week. It does the work quickly and the way you want it to be done, which is great because porn game devs are always mentally ill procrastinating spergs. Any serious story requires handcrafting and actual intelligence behind it to be good, people should realize where AI strengths lie and stop censoring the shit out of it

AI is the solution to incompetency.

This, it will be easier to flood Steam with shovelware

lol
It sure is, Raj.

it's like how the lightbulb solved the night problem

you have decades upon decades of porn at your fingertips.

you have your own mind to imagine whatever you want

you have your own hands and the ability to learn a skill if somehow the enormity of humankind's porn stash is somehow not enough for you. And you still rely on the algorithmic formula of some fucking computer nerds to imagine something out of some words you put down.

Depressing

Refer to my previous post

see

in my country we're looking at an entire generation of zoomers fresh out of college that literally can't do shit because they've gotten used to regurgitating what AI tells them

Okay, retard who can't do anything without AI.

why would you look at porn instead of making your own

...an entire generation of zoomers fresh out of college that literally can't do shit

hello grandpa
what's it like being old?

Bro, you can't even use the File Explorer.

why would you look at a playboy model instead of finding your own and taking a picture

why would you look at art you like

why would you do anything

AI is open source.

Not really. Even the open weight models aren't open source in the strict sense because you can't build them from source. But more than that, the commenters I'm talking about don't have the skills/dedication to set up all those various local services and build workflows around them. They visit a website and type into a text box what they want to have.

What the fuck are you?

Missed a word, should have been "I've seen gleeful dismissal". Cheering whenever a company announces layoffs, interrupting any conversation about gamedev with "Why bother, just wait for AI" type comments.

Anon Babble still hasn't come up with an answer to this

why is he so mad

The new tools aren't better.

That's what the us of " " implies.
Even the graphical fidelity has started going backwards, where older AAA games look better than whatever current bleeding edge thing is.

You're suggesting they are better in some capacity when they just aren't.

better in some capacity when they just aren't

There will be people, who will unironically claim, that we live in the golden age of gaming.

There are plenty of retards in this thread saying AI isn't useful too. Retards are everywhere.

If anyone says they like AI slop I just assume they're an indian getting paid 20 cents to post that desu

an indian getting paid 20 cents to post

go to fiverr

it's true

lol

As an accelerationist myself, I hope AI implodes the entertainment industries (gaming, cinema, etc).

PRAISE BE THE OMNISSIAH-SKYNET.

This dude is a top5 clown, congrats on having him ruin your country fatbros.

White genocide game confirmed

Generative AI is just a slop machine peddled by shills and lazy retards.

top5 clown

The whole congress is kissing ass of an Israeli prime minister, yet it's the autist doing the same autistic things for the past 20 years that grabs the attention... And the people seething about him would lick the ground he walks on not that long ago. lol, lmao even.

Grok doesn't parrot Elon when it comes to South Africa

Elon gets so butthurt about this that now Grok talks about "white genocide"/Kill the Boer in every answer regardless of topic

We live in the dumbest timeline.

I just want AI to help make games so I can play more games and make some myself. The natural consequence of this will probably be bad for people trying to make money but I just want to play video games.

Quite opposite. Low barrier of entry also means more auteurs and more experimental games.