“except for Byleth”

“except for Byleth”

Why can't Smashfags get over the Fire Emblem hateboner? Its been over 5 years.

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They're normalfags who hate anime, much like some people on this very website.

Anon, Smashfags are the same people who don't fucking bathe before attending a tournament. Do you really expect them to have critical thinking skills? They wanted literal who characters like Waluigi or Geno as a playable fighter ffs. I personally hope Sakurai continues to make Smashfags seethe by adding whoever the newest Fire Emblem character will be by the time of Smash Bros for Switch 2

Roy was quite literally made for Smash Bros

people still whine about Byleth

At least the latter was the best-selling game in the franchise.

NO ONE likes 3HRT other than literal trannies

people still whine about Byleth when Corrin was the actual cancer pick that even FE fans hated

Really shows that Ult rosterfags were all a bunch of pablos who jumped ship from Sony to the Switch

Corrin at least stars in 1 third of a good game and femui is a qt
Byleth on the other hand scammed you out of 1 DLC pass character and his game was objectively dogshit. A blatant worthless shill character that no one asked for

You fagleth shills ruined both smash and fire emblem

Conquest sucked too.

Removing Byleth isn't going to magically make Monster Hunter or Dante appear in the game

ok

It makes the game load at least 0.001 secs faster, that alone justifies not having Shitleth in the game

Wheres the anti-Banjo/Sora schizo?

Corrin at least stars in 1 third of a good game

Corrin's game wasn't even OUT YET in most of the world. It was like four months old in Japan when Corrin was revealed.
Even Byleth waited over half a year, and then it was still international and the best-selling game.

Corrin's game wasn't even OUT YET in most of the world.

So? This is literally a (You) problem

At least fucking whine about Lucas instead you nigger, that faggot's game is a japan and piratechad exclusive game for nearly 2 decades now

Bomberman poster is worse.

Because they seldom bring anything interesting to the gameplay, the most exciting one is Robin because it has the magic system but Byleth, despite having cool attacks, has tetherslop recovery which is fucking OP, just like joker, hard to punish too.

Basically, they over-represent a franchise and most of them are super boring, what was done with Hero (4 different costumes that are basically 4 different characters) could've been done with FE as well instead of wasting so many slots, and, of course all of them come with their music which is good but it's nothing unique, same as the stages, just generic castles.
NOTHING to do with anime because I enjoy it.

Same goes for Roy, his game hasn't been released outside of Japan for longer than MOTHER 3, and his game wasn't even out in Japan when Melee released.

deflecting to one of the most-demanded nintendo games ever

Even before Lukas was announced, he was a big deal.

Melee era: Fire Emblem is revered as a legendary SRPG series that is "too tough for the west" and had a certain mystique about it that could only come from this status and lack of availability

the games that existed at the time actually lived up to this legendary status for the most part

Modern day: Fire Emblem is known best as a shitty dating sim with a mediocre SRPG you have to play from time to time

the games started casualizing hard with Sacred Stones and never really recovered even when attempts were made to backpedal

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The Frisk schizo from Anon Babble who crossposted was several magnitudes worse back in 2021

No, Kill yourself. It sold Less than 500k.

I'd still delete her from the game. Too much clutter.

deflecting to one of the most-demanded nintendo games ever

Yes, I am one of those demanders. As a huge mother 3 fan, I hate the fact that nintendo doesn't let me play mother 3

That's still more than most FE games sell in japan, bro.
Engage only did like 400,000, despite being on the switch.

Engage flopped solely due to how garbage 3H was
Smashtards finally had a chance to play a fire emblem game on their home console and it ended up being a fucking dogshit visual novel. Who the fuck would ever touch FE again after that shit?

Same reason why Xenoblade 3 and FF16 flopped hard, both XB2 and FF15 were some unholy godawful overhyped brand damaging turds

Engage flopped solely due to how garbage 3H was

You're really going to need to back this insane argument up.

The massive drop in sales + 3H being dogshit is enough proof
Seriously, if 3H was your first FE game, would you ever consider touching that franchise ever again?

people try out fire emblem for the first time because it's on switch

it plays nothing like an FE games and more like a VN

people expect the sequel to be more like 3H and have massive amounts of meaningless fluff and instead get engage which focuses back on the gameplay again

hate it because it's not like 3H

it's not hard to understand

If 3H was my first game, I'd be upset that the sequel is a vtuber fest with the lamest anime tropes everywhere.

No you'd be upset it was a game at all because you're a retarded VN fag

otome artstyle that looks nothing like old FE and lame anime tropes

GOOD

vtuber artstyle that looks nothing like old FE and lame anime tropes

I suddenly have standards

There have been multiple otome-centric FE games. This was the first vtuber game.
Denying the massive negative reaction to Engage's two reveals is just ridiculous.

3H was negatively received until the timeskip trailer but no one mentions that

Smash is one of the biggest games of all time. It's just fun to make fun of the absurd ammount of generic anime guys they included despite no one knowing who they are

for a lot of people the problem isnt fire emblem characters, its picking the exact same blank slate "i fight for my friends" lord character what, like 8 times over? Wheres fucking tharja, jill or haar, or literally any bow wielder, axe wielder, pegasus knight, or mounted unit??? Even lyn would have been a nice change from the true neutral hello my name is lord characters sakurai spammed.

There have been multiple otome-centric FE games

Name 1
That one manga with massive yaoi hands does not count

Bro, the game was negatively received even when it released. No one liked the monastery, everyone complained that crimson flower was unfinished, the "4th route" was a literal copypaste and I also remember all of the Bernie hate because she was literally the lamest anime trope character ever, but now she's le epic because... I dunno
I genuinely don't understand why tards suddenly started to pretend that the game was good. Was it just the pokemon tier starter wars?

Fire Emblem turned to shit after the GBA. Alot of Nintendo series did, like Pokemon and 2D Metroid. I don't blame them.

but now she's le epic because... I dunno

It's okay because le sad backstory :)

Still better than Bomberfaggot
Laugh at Bombermanfags

has 100+ games

one of the most copied games of all time

revolutionized multi-player in gaming

had the first HD game ever

launched the successful B-Daman toyline

good Nintendo history and had a crossover with Wario and Mario Party 2 unused content

has other crossovers with Pac-Man, Transformers, Yatterman and Lilo & Stich

still gets BTFO in SSB and became a complete laughtingstock by everyone

series gets overshadowed by waifufags and coomers beacuse of Bombergirl despite them never playing the game

R got outsold by the new Momotetsu, a fellow Hudson IP that was only released in Japan.

no console game for 5 years

No games on NSO

40th anniversary came and went with no fanfare or events. R2 flopped hard

What a fucking loser. Imagine being a Bombercuck in 2024

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I skipped engage because of how repulsive the art style is. 3 houses was my first FE game.

Video Games are serious bing bing wahoo business, not creepy incel anime shit.

thank you for proving my point

1v1 me in power bomberman, faggot.

Literally no one thinks that. We just think all the random anime characters are a weird fit for smash.

3H tranny calling any other game's artstyle "repulsive"

lol
It was objectively a downgrade from awakening/fates artstyle and it's also the peak of sameface anime bullshit. There's also not a single good expression in that game, every single character has literally the exact same 3 generic expressions, only exception is that one futa mage with big milkers

falseflag

Anon Babble is currently comprised of

75% generals

15% off-topic shitposting

10% dead threads actually about anime

The vast majority of this site does not watch or talk about anime.

I don't hate it for not being like 3 Houses though. I was okay with it being more gameplay focused because the persona shit gets tiresome by the end of 3H. The general aesthetic and toothpaste haired protag was what made me not want to play it.

Name 1

That one manga with massive yaoi hands does not count

Sacred Stones.
Also, Genealogy got two otome manga, commercials aimed at women, etc.

I never played the DS games, but you have to admit that Engage has a much brighter and rounded look to it than 3H. I wasn't a fan.

bomberman has ssf2 so its all good

awakening/fates artstyle

this is the worst art in the series tho

most of the characters are fundamentally the same save for ike, but even he has the usual fire emblem abilities like a down+b counter, a charge attack, etc

The problem is the lack of variety between them.

Seeing DMCucks collectively lose their minds over Byleth because they deluded themselves into thinking Dante was going to be FP5 was hysterical

I hope he never gets in

sacred stones

Fuck off faggot

Genealogy

The only debatable otome game. No wonder 3H trannies are fans of that game despite them never even playing it

Why are 3HTrannies so dishonest? Imagine calling awakening/fates artystyle the worst one in the series when it's just an objectively better version than what we got in 3H. Also calling it the worst art when FE11 12 exists is proof that their they're literal tourists that played 1 single game in the franchise and then dropped it the moment their second game didn't feature grooming VN mechanics

We just think all the random anime characters are a weird fit for smash.

Joker and Hero in the same DLC pack got way warmer reception. People are not anti "anime aesthetics,"

Fuck off faggot

Yeah ok pal.

Conquest sucked too.

Sorry you're shit at Fire Emblem. I bet you love Ike's games, Sacred Stones and Echoes :)

They're brother and sister you retardfuck

Byleth was revealed during peak Fire Emblem fatigue. No one wanted Byleth.

people play person and dragon quest

Smash fans patiently waiting for the last DLC fighter

Nintendo does a whole poll on who the character should be

literally millions of characters to choose from

last DLC fighter is a fucking Fire Emblem character

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Awakening artstyle is worse than any of those. Hideous portraits

This but 3H. Linhardt was an instant bench the moment I saw his portrait, easily the worst one in the entire franchise
I can't believe that the game managed to make the timeskip portrait somehow even fucking worse

Sakurai was just shoving any japanese character in if their publisher asked. Smashbros were furious he didn't extend that offer to western games because they wanted like DOOMguy and Commander Shepard and Minecraft Steve confirmed for smash.

I wanted Byleth. Would've preferred Leif, Medeus, or some off-the-wall pick like Nino, but Byleth is cool. Still the character I play most in Smash.

I hope they add a feh rep. Kiran, Vero, and fjorm would make easy echoes, and gullveig,would make a cool assist trophy.
Turning lyn into a playable character would be nice as well. Maybe mark/ the elite trio could be a pokemom trainer reskin.

the fact of the matter is that the fire emblem series is honestly kind of terrible

While I agree with most of what this guy is saying, there's no way Bomberman 64 isn't in a typical list of top ten N64 titles. That game is a timeless masterpiece that still holds up today, and whether or not it's in someone's list of best N64 games is how you can tell if they actually grew up with and appreciated the N64's library or if they're just parroting the opinions of the Youtube collective.

The original 64 is the weakest of the three Bombermans on N64.

femByleth is at least hot, so she gets a pass.

Respectfully disagree. I owned all three and 64 had the most depth by far. Hero strayed a little too far from the path, and Second Attack course-corrected too hard and played it too safe. The boys and I always ended up going back to 64.

The entire video goes over the history of Smash Bros

Nowhere does he complain about Byleth.

Makes a harmless little jab towards the character in the video description where you’d have to go out of your way to find.

People on Twitter post it and go apeshit

Who the actual fuck cares? Are FEfags really this goddamn insecure about Smashfags not liking some weeaboo chess game having the same amount of characters as Nintendo’s mascot IP and a multimillion dollar selling franchise?

Fire Emblem is a multibillion dollar franchise now sonny

Lucas is no faggot, faggot

Corrin is the very reason Fire Emblem got its infamous hatred in the Smash community to begin with, Byleth only broke it further.

Pick it up FE shitters

The Smash community is a load of pants shitters, no one cares what they think

anime

fire emblem

byleth's game wasn't even out when they were added, and people were ALREADY sick of FE characters at this point. it was especially egregious and frustrating for people who bought the fighter pass while characters were still being revealed. most of us at that point had assumed they'd all be 3rd party additions.

byleth's game wasn't even out when they were added

This applies to Roy, Ike, and Corrin far more egregiously than it ever did for Byleth.

none of them were in a fighter pass that was prepaid for.

FEfags will look at this and go "Yup, this is peak gameplay in the series" I can't imagine how bad the other games were!

Why can't Smashfags get over the Fire Emblem hateboner?

It's overrepresented. I wouldn't mind having more anime style character if they were at least from a different franchise.

Yeah, they were just in the preorders that you prepaid for.

Joker: A character from a series no one expected to get in

Hero: The "make the Japs happy" pick

Banjo: The "make everyone else happy" pick

Terry: The "make Sakurai happy" pick

"Wow, look at all these crazy third-party picks. Who could they possibly end the first pass with? I hope t's Dant-oh"

And yes, I was a Dantefag. With all this in mind, I'm full-on expecting Alear if they do another Smash. Partly why I'm not going back on the ride if it gets announced

Roy and Ike were base game, with Roy being an individual DLC in Smash 4. Roy was also a clone so he had almost no development time. In most cases the full rosters for each game had been leaked before the games were even out.

I can't decide if the reveal stream where they had an 8 character all fire emblem match was either absolute contempt toward complainers or else zero self awareness.

>Hero: The "make the Japs happy" pick

It's pretty funny how all the seething over him got swept under the rug

Assuming Sakurai directed that shit himself, he's a massive fire emblem weeb faggot. I'm sure he's AWARE of fan's feelings about it, and he's known for being a troll, but he probably just genuinely wanted to show that off.

It's overrepresented

It anything Fire Emblem is underrepresented

Roy and Ike were base game

They were added to Smash before their games released.
Hell, Melee released before Roy's game ever released.

I don't remember seeing a lot of seething. Dragon quest deserved representation, and I can't think of a better way to represent the player character of the series. My only non complaint is that he was just called "Hero" instead of giving each alt their proper names.

True. When was the last Mario game that didn't have the main character appear in Smash?

Don't pretend that Laughingstock Bombermanfag has a point, he's a literal schizo who posts fake tweets to support his delusions.

Ike's game came out in 2005

Ike was added to smash in 2008

What the fuck did he mean by this?

I just wanted Slime desu

fighters pass 1 has been nothing but third-parties

surely they are saving the best for last

...first-party from a franchise which already had more than enough reps

If Byleth was the first character revealed, maybe it wouldn't have been so bad.

I don't remember seeing a lot of seething.

You weren't there then.
It was about a full month of constant seething over Dragon Quest getting in over literally every other character in existence, and there was maybe about one non-Japanese person that wanted a Dragon Quest character.

My only non complaint is that he was just called "Hero" instead of giving each alt their proper names.

None of them have canon names.

I'm sure they were anticipating the negative reaction, which is why they immediately revealed FP2 after.

Ike was in Smash before 2008, retard. Brawl was only even delayed the final time (to February of 2008) to add Sonic.
Ike was in Brawl's roster before the game was even announced, and before Path of Radiance released. If that game wasn't delayed at all, it would have released in 2006 (a few months after PoR) and Ike would have been in it still.

Inshitteroar stealing the last launch roster slot and deconfirming the Grinch Leak was a much worse crime than Byleth.
Torracat's paws should've been glued to the fucking ground when he hit Level 36.

>Hero: The "make the Japs happy" pick

>Terry: The "make Sakurai happy" pick

Terry and the DQ heroes being seen as literal whos by Smash players outed a lot of youtubers as legit nintendies that only know about Persona outside their circle, but not Megaten as a whole.

It should have been Decidueye anyway. There's still no final stage grass starter.

Terry I get, but how could anyone not be able to identify a Dragon Quest protag

Because who the fuck outside Japan plays Dragon Quest.

I wish Alear gets in at some point just for the unholy seethe it would cause

game that literally everyone in the world can buy because of digital storefronts and the third world becoming the second world did better then a japanese only release that came out 25 years ago when the population of the planet was lower

game good cuz number big

Wii Fit Trainer was quite literally added to 4 because of Wii Fit's sales.

Because who the fuck outside Japan plays Dragon Quest

Dragon Ball Scholars

Dragon Ball fans don't touch anything Toriyama unless it's explicitly connected to Dragon Ball (and isn't Dr. Slump).

who the fuck outside Japan plays Dragon Quest

There's a reason why Eight was playable over X or adult Madason.

My favorite part about the whining about Byleth being an "ad pick" is how everyone believed Dante was going to be revealed that day to be just that: An advertisement. In this case, he was going to be advertising the DMC3 Switch port. Capcom announced that news about the port would be revealed the same day as the Smash character, and everyone just assumed both events were connected. All that gushing over what they straight up said was an "ad pick" made Byleth even funnier.

there's no way Bomberman 64 isn't in a typical list of top ten N64 titles.

because the console only has like 15 games once you remove all the multiplats that run better on ps1/dreamcast/pc

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I'm not giving your YouTube video views, faggot.

She was also a meme pick. Clealy. Every smash game has meme picks. ROB isn't even technically from a game at all, just a cameo in Mario Kart.

those fans are FRAUDS

It's because of franchise representation meeting canon ability.
Here:

1

Invalidated due to Roto taking the spot for that trilogy.

2

Can't use MP

5

Not the hero

6

Invalidated by Solo taking the spot for that trilogy.

7

Manlet

9

Manlet & defined by not having a set appearance

10

Defined by not having a set appearance

Through this, the only options beyond the basic 3/4/11 are repeats for trilogies or customizable characters.

3H was negatively received.

I'm just tired of nearly every other character having either a counter or a reflector