Is it possible to appeal to the mainstream without having a "realistic" aesthetic?

No

Would you consider Mario, realistic?

Mario is a unique IP that broke through mainstream acceptance. Not applicable here.

No.
All anime and cartoony shit should die forever. Replace it all with hyperrealistic pores, fat nigger lips, big red tumblr noses, and lantern jaws for everyone.
FPBP.

Is it possible for weeaboos to have some standards in therms of writing, characterdevelopment and relationsships

Nope

This but unironically

The Story, writing and dialogue really is why this shjts getting so much love.

maelle a cute

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why did these threads turn from discussing the game to discussing the actual game to constantly shitting on anime and japanese shit? is this some sort of resetera raid?

Possible? Absolutely, it's just harder to take seriously. Which is unfortunate because there are plenty of games that have a cartoonish aesthetic but still deal with mature themes. This applies to other forms of media as well.

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Found the obsessed chud.

Mario and Pokemon are the two biggest IPs of all time--literal cartoon.
Then there are also Sonic and Kirby, once more--cartoon.
Undertale reached massive success, it's pixel cartoon.
If you wanna go animu style: Final Fantasy has always been mainstream as fuck, and Persona games have been mainstream for a while.

Would you consider Animal Crossing realistic? Pokemon?

So this is the new topic OP decided to obsess over huh

nope

Explain to me how E33 is the mainstream. It hasn't even sold 3 million copies.

People that hate anime (of which there are many, despite browsing a site that literally has "chan" in it's name) think that a french game inspired by jrpgs being so successful is some kind of own against Japan

For Persona and Metaphor, I think the younger cast, school themes and environment hurt it from getting this kind of acceptance.

best selling video games of all time

Minecraft

GTA 5

Wii sports

Mario Kart

Terraria

Yes, just make your game good.

Metaphor Refantazio sold a million copies in a day

We are very buying your French parry slop 33 troon

Persona 5 wasn't accepted?

Since that reporting, we've had no concrete sales numbers.

reminder ghibli miyazaki also hates anime, the problem is just that current anime aesthetic and its clichés are tired as fuck

so true, generic artstyles and cliches are good when they're old

A good advertised bad game sells all their copies on launch (i.e Monster Hunter Wilds, Diablo 4, Refantazio, FF16), a barely advertised good game sells at a long run (i.e Elden Ring, Minecraft back in the days, Expedition 33, Monster Hunter World selling milion of copies yearly 8 years after release)

Imagine using an ot of context quote to prove your retarded point .

Fortnite is the most popular game in the world and I wouldn't call that style "realistic"

No
normalfags are allergic towards "anime"

the problem is just that current anime aesthetic and its clichés are tired as fuck

this

Nope. Westfags love realismslop.

expedition 33 this and that

wtf is this spam?

I'm not into modern anime trite shit, but muh realism needs to die.
At least E33 didn't scan faces, otherwise I wouldn't even have played it

RDR2 and GTAV prove this wrong. Soon GTAVI will as well. Also, no chance Wilds doesn't sell more than World in a year or 2.

I think the younger cast, school themes and environment hurt it from getting this kind of acceptance.

This is a good thing. Do you really want Persona to appease normalfags by making all the characters unambiguously 18+ because romancing teenagers makes them feel "icky" and removing problematic teacher-student relationships? t would be the sloppification of Persona

probably sharty shit

why would you want to unless you don't actually give a shit about quality. It's the difference between og oblivion and the remake, attempting to appeal to the mainstream generates slop.

otaku child spotted

It's not about realistic or not, it's about anime designs. Anime design is normie repellent.

Normalfags hate anime. Thats why its important to post it here as much as possible - to keep them the fuck out

Thats not even true. The entire world was enraptured by that cringe Ghibli AI slop. And theres tons of normalfag anime like DBZ and Naruto

Ghibli style is like disney for normalfags. They associate it with animated movies for children so it gets a pass for them.

It's absolutely possible to appeal to mainstream but that would require your designs not looking like someone didn't digest the candy he ate properly and blasted diarrhea all over the screen.

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"chan" is Japanese word for honorifics, not something anime related, or something anime made. You hear that in anime mostly, because anime is Japanese.
Here in Japan, watching anime isn't default state of mind and many dislike it as much as non-Japanese do. With having exact same thoughts about those who tend to watch anime. Japan isn't anime land, nor a place that magically loves it. At best, it's necessary evil due to being a media form that got popular outside of Japan, but it's still largely otaku thing (who are seen as losers).

The perception of anime/anime fans has been better in recent years (not seen as ultimate loser behavior), but that's the case with non-Japanese countries too.
Still among older Japanese population, the negative perception about anime remains. Them considering it as death of Japan. They'd rather you know them for raping your grandmother in WWII, rather than being country that produced an abomination (as they call it), which is anime.

???
Gachas are making more money than ever and they are all anime

elden ring

MHW

barely advertised

making money =/= recognition

Since there is another thread of this: It doesn't matter that Genshit or HSR might outsell every GTA in a year when GTA will always be more recognized than either of the two, with having more respect put on its name.
Not to mention that gacha slop is seen as lowest medium in gaming, who can only copy good products, and make them worse. They are lootboxes with tits skin on them. Gacha games are literally the biggest joke you can find.

They pretty much only work in asian countries. And they're not very respected outside of those countries.

No, but the Japanese can still make non-anime media, you know?

Tranny tries to falseflag by calling Expedition 33 woke

Fails miserably

Tranny tries to falseflag by invoking Final Fantasy

Fails miserably

Tranny tries to flaseflag by invoking anime ascetics

Fails miserably

respect by who?
people who don't play games?

Lmao gachaslop is CN shit only with everyone else treating it as a joke. Even JP fags who tend to be gacha addicts, don't respect it all when it comes to seeing it as an actual game. No Nip will name gacha slop, not even FGO, as their most favorite game of all time, only CN fags will becuase gacha slop is all they have.

The worst example you could've given as such.

people who don't play games?

Ironically, it's people who hate games that tend to play gacha slop in the first place because gameplay is dumbed down, writing/story is ass, but it won't matter because there is nice ass on the banner to sate their gambling addiction.

Gacha fags act like Wuthering Waves combat is like coming of Christ, when that combat would be seen as an insult compared to any action game you can think of.

Yes, gacha tards don't play games. Agreed. It's why they think that pressing two buttons, sometimes three, is peak action gaming experience.

My sister claims to love action games due to just playing Genshit, yet the moment you give her an actual action game she starts crying because "muh elemental reaction" or "where is muh shield that don't break." Please! Gacha games are made to appeal the most to those who are like average gaming journalist. The standard for gacha being good is so low that something like Genshit got popular in the first place despite being shittier Zelda in every way.

It has nothing to do with anime. People all over the world like anime aesthetics.
The real problem is that Western game consumers like garbage, and I'm not even joking here. Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 4, Cyberpunk, these are objectively awful games in practically every respect, they're like a retarded person throwing shit at the wall when it comes to game design, but that's what Westerners love. There are people playing Cyberpunk with that fucked up gameplay, with those cars that move like bricks with broken physics, and they genuinely finish the game saying it was the best game they've ever played.

Yea, bro. ZZZ and WuWa absolutely required of me to have more skill than Sekiro and NG. Get the fuck out!

Yes, that's what the average Italian looks like

Okay, but Genshin Impact absolutely appealed to the mainstream and managed to succeed as a GAAS that most western studios have failed with realistic games.
Also, why the fuck is this thread forgetting that Pokemon exists?

Also, why the fuck is this thread forgetting that Pokemon exists?

I stand corrected