Why is every game dev company ending remote work?

why is every game dev company ending remote work?

mouse jigglers ruining it for everyone else

Because too many remote workers have taken the piss by doing less work than they would in an office. They also don't want to pay for offices they're not using.

Middle management has nothing to do and fears layoffs.

But... the "day in my life" videos told me otherwise. I have to ACTUALLY do work!?

It lowers the rent in the area, wagie in their shitboxes who spent 4+ hours of their life on trips from work to home are important for economy

Terrible internet connection

You can't feel important if your wagies also get to work from home. Only management gets to come and go as they please.

they want their passionless layabouts to also be tired from the commute

Hey employer, there's something horribly wrong with the online play, can you fix it with online work?

get terrible quality games and constantly delay shit because the worthless women you hired keep getting distracted by their pets, kids, house tasks etc

force everyone back so that freeloarders can't just slackoff anymore

based companies that do this

t. slacker

They also don't want to pay for offices they're not using

Why not save more money by downsizing the offices?

I can’t wait for all these urbanite scum from libtard states to get fucked and have to go back to working in the office. All you disgusting creatures who moved to rural areas need to get back to your containment zone. Lmao get fucked.

Nah, he's right. Sometimes the higher up individuals are control freaks, and they fear that if they let up on their control, people will find out they're frauds and not adding all that much value. And I've been a manager before, there are LOTS of things a good manager can do for you (even if you're remote) but there are a lot of managers who basically need to know exactly what you're doing so they can copy and paste up the chain.

office ownership/leases are capital that has value so the cost is not as bad as salaries

Remote work failed as a concept. It has been costing corporations money, so they are ending it. No further explanation needed. Stay frosty wagies and keep working hard.

My office did that. Then, when they tried to get everyone to come back to work in the office, they realized they didn't have the space.

After several years of doing remote work, I've come to realize most people are terrible at doing remote work. A lot of them are bad in-person too, so I'm not sure how much it matters. But to really be decent working from home you need to be a basement-dwelling permavirgin like myself who grew up on IRC. Nobody communicates properly on Slack. In the rare times that people send messages, no one is even reading them.

same as everywhere else: commercial real estate said so

Turns out about a fourth of the real state market are office zones.
The usual suspects started having cold sweats about being left holding that bag, so they started the great wagie wrangling

THANKS TRUMP

Back to the cagie, wagie.

because remote work is a contradiction in terms

You don't have them enough

middle managers' only job is to organize endless and useless meetings and make themselves look important in the office, something you can't do remotely

I choose to believe this shit about retail spaces, because that's hilarious if true

you could try working during business hours. employees have a fidelity obligation.

robot take our jobs

What's your job? I want to work from home when I graduate uni too.

After several years of doing remote work, I've come to realize most people are terrible at doing remote work.

this marks as at least two SDs more either intelligent or honest than most remote workers

A lot of reasons, most of them gay and retarded. Some places were forced into full remote work when they didn't have the infrastructure or management in place for it, and they've mistaken the issues caused by that situation to just be inherent properties of WFH. You have a lot of really poor managers who don't even understand what productivity is who will use the first scapegoat they can when they need it, and "everyone is slacking off at home" is an easy one. You have a lot of people comparing a fantasy dream vision of the office to WFH, which is probably the most common problem, you see this a lot with retards complaining that someone is watching youtube at home as though reddit wasn't filled with people posting from their office, people planning lunch, talking about Game of Thrones or whatever the show was, and all that shit. And there's just a type of person that really gets off on dressing up and being 'at the office', and that's also the sort of person who sort of selects into management.

Neutralising leak risks. The Last of Goys Part II was leaked by a remote worker.

Why did they bother trying to get everybody to come back?

my sister works remotely for some insurance company, during a family event she brought one of her coworkers and we talked, she found it amazing how much work my sister get done while working. I know for a fact my sister puts in 2-3 hours worth of work the rest of the time she is messing around on her phone or doing chores because we used to play stardew valley together.

The problem with this idea is that I was in an office for ten years, and 99% of communication was done the exact same way it was at home - messages on teams (webex/slack/whatever), emails, conference calls. I'm not convinced the clarity of my email is improved by the location in which it is written.

productivity drops like a brick with wfh, you have no control or oversight over employees, people like to justify wfh by saying they save money on transport and its helps with the kids etc but the company loses money for subpar work. glad i never took up the opportunity for wfh during covid because those who did are easier to let go because all their shit is already out of the office(and half of them have been let go already) while i persevered and stayed in office climbing the ladder and putting in honest work

Every single WorkFromHome person I know spends 90% of their time playing games when they should be working. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
My WoW guild that had people come back that hadn't played the game in a decade and they would clock in 16hours a day of play time when I, being a NEET, could play at most 12hours.
WFH is a fucking joke for the majority of people, if you're one of the 0.0001% of people that actually work from home the entire time it's sad that you're getting fucked but there is no way that shit was sustainable anyway

office managers are retarded and think if you're in the office then you'll definitely do more work instead of look at your phone while you wait for janet to respond to the email you sent before lunch

Literal shill

maybe now they'll get something done properly

fucking lol at anyone defending wfh slacking with "i don't work at the office either"

Because everyone else around them started to and they thought they needed to as well. Also because they started to catch people using mouse wiggle things to fake system into thinking they were active.

hoping that wagies will voluntarily quit before they start making layoffs with redundancy payments.

People almost nobody working from home is actually working more than 30 minutes per day

Backdoor layoffs, or just management being bad. Some KPI or another goes down 2%, you have to give an action plan, you're unqualified and talking out of your ass, so you pull out "well we need to go back to the office". When that doesn't work it'll be because we need more mandatory fun, or we need to hire the lean consultants to come in again, etc. People have a competence fantasy about how businesses work and how management makes decisions. Even the C suite is just ass pulling.

Yeah. It was better when I was in a room with ~10 other people, and we could literally just ask questions out loud and start conversations. But within the company, we would still use chat and people would be bad at it. But also there are a lot of companies that just have individual pods or otherwise make it unreasonable to speak out loud so they get no benefit over WFH. Most people are just bad in general. It's why game studios fall apart once they get past ~30 people because there's not enough good people in the world to fill a 200+ person team (my studio is about 250 people).

They are greedy and want maximum exploitation under capitalism.

anon has the whole boot in his mouth

replacement by unlimited indians.

Any competent team tracks their employee's work with some sort of ticket system.

My team operates on two-week sprints. At the start of each sprint we write up new tasks or pick something from the backlog, estimate effort required for each item, and dole out the tickets. What matters most to management is that we complete our tasks on time. That's the way it was before covid, and the way it is now. If anybody's productivity drops, it's incredibly easy for managers to pick up on.

Some higher-ups are just booty-bothered about seeing empty desks at the office. Site Manager Grug look at empty desk and think "empty desk = no work done". They're generally extroverts and think that if they drive in to the office then everyone else, including all the introverted autistic devs who look at server code all day for 1/3rd their salary, should too.

t. EA employee

Management doesn't understand their employees nor customers.
If they did they would be working those jobs instead.
This is the answer no matter what industry or era.

employers realised that the increased productivity was temporary, as soon as people got used to not having someone watching over them making sure they're working a significant percentage of them had their productivity fall off a cliff.

Any competent team

Vanishingly rare

I like how the underlying assumption here is that the H1Bs they're importing don't consistently do an abhorrent job that needs to be redone from scratch 75% of the time. what's actually happening is companies have realised it's cheaper to have a hundred jeets shart out unusable code and then have 3-4 overworked competent technicians go in and redo it than it is to have a hundred competent technicians do it right the first time.

Ive met two people that wfh
One of them I saw at the cinema when i went to watch an anime movie and he said he was on the clock while there and decided to catch this movie on his "lunch break"
Another will go to the local arcade and while there will go "i gotta clock out"
Wfh are people literally leeching these companies hard and honestly, good.

boomers run it all and still think offices are "mandatory". productivity is usually the main excuse, but no one does shit in the office either. they get their work done in a couple of hours and stare at the screen the rest of the day.

Too much freedom for the proletariat is a bad thing. Have to reign them in.

Control, honestly. Management and middle management are useless, remote work exposed them as useless, but being higher up on the food chain means they dictate worthless shit that others have to adhere to, like awful retarded mandatory check-in zoom meetings that accomplish nothing. Pay somebody their paycheck, give them a tangible clear task and deadline by which to achieve it, and most times you'll get a competent person who just does the work. But the middle management retards need to feel important so all the red tape and bullshit are mandated into the mix as well.

I don't miss working corporate. It's a good place to make money but is filled top to fucking bottom with powerful retards with self esteem issues.

I find it hard to believe that EA of all companies is so lenient in their labour systems.
That actually sounds like a great place to work.

Middle management and HR. For a while nearly all companies have been downsizing. Middle management and HR want people back in the office so they can tell Shaniquea not to dress like a prostitute and tell Tim he needs to be onsite while his boss works from home. Basically HR and middle management want to tell their bosses they're doing things when really they're the biggest wastes of life on the planet and should be killed off.

Cause covid has been over for years

I was working from home for years before covid, that was just an excuse for the other office drones

Not possible to force unpaid crunch hours on people who are at home. Everyone else in this thread has no clue and does not work in the industry.

Lenient, yes. All-forgiving, no. Recall how many studios they've killed (and are on the cusp of killing, like Bioware).
They were successfully sued in the early 2010's for the crunch culture of employees working months on end with no weekends (salary, no overtime pay) to finish projects. Since then it's been pretty nice.

EA has changed a lot since the EA Spouse story

Based, we like this. We in the Video Games Movement hate the idea of working from a computer. We love going into the office and giving a firm handshake with the scrim meeting and rubbing elbows at the water cooler. That’s the video game industry we know.

However, this does NOT apply to outsourced labor. We like having them far away from us because we love and respect their talent. They are irreplaceable. We love seeing Rajesh and Pajeet in the credits of every game despite how they don’t have to go to HQ yet we do. That’s our video games. We like this.

Because every desk job cunt I know keeps bragging about how they get groceries, do laundry, or just fuck about in video games when they're supposed to be working.

No sympathy from this wagie who hasn't had a lunch break or paid sick leave in 8 years.

Power tripping boomer management basically
You ever wonder what they do when they're not in the office micromanaging? Literally nothing.

I’m remote because there isn’t enough space for everyone

Working in a cool studio seems lit.

They know people are lazy af at home

hasn't had a lunch break or paid sick leave in 8 years

Nigger why do you keep this shit job? Is the pay that good?

Holy fuck, imagine working such a shit job. Why do you do that to yourself?

I'm those people you hate, I finish all my work in 2-3 hours. I make $120k, 4-10 schedule, remote, and I get great 401k and medical.

B
I was born there, it was pretty good. Would do it again.

wageslave humiliation ritual, get up at six wagie we're a family!

Jews and boomers. Anyone saying remote work led to less of the job being done is a jew or a boomer.
Every single study provide the opposite is true but these demons want to lord their status over you and force into cuck boxes where you spend your money and waste your life.

People who like work from home come in two flavors:

bragging about how much they are slacking off and how little work they are doing

being very offended over people suggesting that it might be less efficient while quoting some made up study

I think that's the issue.

WAGIE WAGIE
RETURN TO CAGIE
8 HOURS EVERYDAY
COMMUTE AND MICROMANAGING ARE HERE TO STAY

EA employee

I jog past your office every weekend. I'm gonna hop in and kick your Kirkland ass, anon.

All those tikshit retards showing off them doing nothing at megacorps or work from home really came to bit them in the ass now that remote work is dead(good thing btw)

If you run an organization where do-nothing employees go unnoticed, that's on the org, that's on the team. Where's the accountability? I worked at a very small company once (which EA is not, obviously) and if people weren't doing jack shit everyone noticed right away and they got canned the same week.

I worked remotely for six years and just this calendar year went back to work in person at a new job. I had one good remote job with a fun team and all of the other ones were a fucking boring slog. There is something to working in a place with real people that is not emulatable remotely. But the idea that people are going to uproot their lives and move across the country just to work a job...I just can't wrap my mind around it. And there are so many incentives to living in a big city, where retail office space is, but going there to get a job is not one of them.

these mega companies need to justify their retarded office spaces and run their teams poorly, but at least when they run them poorly in-office, there's the veneer of work being done because people are sitting at desks.

I guess. I don't know. I've worked at companies where they have all the gay perks like ping pong tables and free snacks and whatever other goofy shit--which is a waste of employee time, a waste of company money, and just boils down to mandatory fun type shit. I don't mind the occasional company outing where you all get driven around on a bus in Rome for a week and drink all day long, but I could easily live a long happy life without another icebreaker/team lunch zoom call or its in-office pizza party equivalent. Anyway long story short is that the only people who are doing nothing in WFH are doing nothing in-office too, and it's all the middle management people and execs--not the people actually contributing. If you have deliverables that don't get delivered, it doesn't get missed.

Remote work isn't dead, the economy is dead. There are 50 billion jobs to do that all pay $12/hr. Check this out. If I could make $28/hr working at the hardware store or at Chipotle, I'd be there with a smile on my face. It's not the work that sucks--it's the being exploited that sucks.

keep fucking that chicken though.

I'm that 0.0001% and it's infuriating. WFH is a godsend for a autistic loners like me.

I'm kind of picky about the office perks like that. About the only sort of thing I liked the company to do was the monthly safety meetings because it was an hour and a half of everyone getting an actual good and free meal while we did something no one cared about anyway.

Beyond that, I like the small things companies I've worked for have done, like Thanksgiving/Christmas dinners for people who got stuck at work on the holidays (Back when I worked at a plant that needed 100% uptime), pizzas/burgers/etc sent to departments when a major project was completed or the group got stuck with a lot of overtime for a while, things like that. It's really small and petty, but I'm more inclined to stick around somewhere that at least says thank you for your work on occasion than just expect you to show up and leave while reminding you that anybody can be replaced at any time.

No, remote work is dead. There’s still a lot of good jobs available but they’re not remote anymore

being born in k

implying

There’s still a lot of good jobs available

lol
I mean sure if you count the nepotism only and 150+ years of experience positions

Coof is dead

A can be born in Africa, Latin America, and Cuba

B can be born in Mexico

the highlights of C are the worst parts of Europe and three countries where killing yourself are normal: Finland, Japan and South Korea

D is awful

K means even if you aren't white, you've won, unless you're an Aborginal

Everywhere else is 100% hell.

Current job is wfh only

sucks to suck

There never was a thread in whole history of Anon Babble that glowed more than this one.

I hate working remote. It's so much harder to be productive and focus. And it feels much more isolated.

It is soft layoffs, they just hope as many people as possible quit as result.

there are many factors, but mainly, if you can do your work from home, a bunch of pajeets can do it from india at a fraction of the cost, or at least, accounting seems to think so

Same the company I work for has an "office" but it's literally optional to go there. They may hold a yearly gathering to meet your coworkers in person but everything is WFH and project based. I can't imagine working some cuck 8 hour mandatory in person job. When I can work a job that is all project based some days I only work for like 3 hours total some days I work more than 8 to get stuff done. Having to show up in person is modern day slavery that forces you stretch work out.

I specifically avoided working remote because I know the temptation of video games would be too strong. I ended up subbing to Eve Online during the meme lockdowns and my productivity plummeted instantly. But since it's mostly an AFK game, I was still doing "some" work in between Eve clicks.
I hated it so much.

The irony of you posting

libtard

And posting Stone Cold at the same time.

I'm so glad Mr. Goldshekelbergstein is gonna be able to afford his 5th yacht!!!

Why is Anon Babble like this?
Oh, right.

do wfh work

end up spending most of it milling about on 3ds

how do I fix myself bros, I don't want my bad habits catching up to me

Be factory worker cuck slave

Actually have to work constantly for entire shift with brainwashed cattle co-workers who drag each other down constantly to please higher-ups that would fire them the moment a number tells them it's profitable to

All for less pay than people doing less work

God I envy office workers.

I'm going to be honest, my productivity on wfh days is way lower than the days that I'm in the office. It sucks that one of the good things that came out of the pandemic is getting rolled back but I understand why it's happening.
At least my work is on a hybrid schedule which I honestly think is the best solution.

E is definitely decent if you can pinpoint your spawn spot.

Because they don't hire white men, and other demographics have the same mindset as the white NEETs on here: the nigger mindset.

brainwashed cattle co-workers who drag each other down constantly to please higher-ups

this still happens in offices and perhaps even worse because everyone is constantly talking shit about others in emails/slack/whatever

The directors want to use their nerf guns in the office

my sis' work is hybrid and anytime she has home office she's just chilling on her underwear in the sofa before and after I come back from work. as great as it is remote "work" is a meme that has to go

Get back to your wage cage retards.

As long as the jew employers pay for your travel costs and time sure

Parasitic managerial scum need to justify their worthless fake jobs.

the benefit of remote work is the elimination of the commuting time. I used to work 4x11 and going to the office and back takes a total of 2.5 hours of commute.

doing remote work frees me 2.5 hours every day so i can rest better, though i understand a lot of people abuse remote work to slack off.

i will advocate for complete remote work if the employees are responsible enough to not slack off too much

game devs remote work for 5 years

no games come out for 5 years

hmmm maybe this was a bad idea and it kills productivity.

I've definitely had some goon seshes on the 'cord with a couple of fellas saying they should be doing WFH.

I became irreplaceable at my warehouse and now I'm making $30/hour. You just need to find a good place, actually be good at what you do, and have a little luck.

most people won't do any work unless they have someone looking over their shoulder.

These are the people telling you "learn a trade"

my company has a manager named exactly janet and she doesn't answer my email before lunch.

while reminding you that anybody can be replaced at any time.

I worked in this little burger joint and the owner the first two weeks was very nice and helpful but after week three started putting pressure on me to prep/cook/run the register to cut back on labor costs. His goal for me was "to do the job of three people and only pay one person". Everyday day after that I would get paranoid and he would walk up to me and say that if he put up a help wanted sign that their would be a line around the block for my job. On the last day I worked for him I took him up on his offer and told him to prep that sign up as I quit (I didn't have the mental fortitude). He struggled for awhile and even lost another cook because I accidentally talked him into finding a job closer to his home instead of traveling three buses to get to this job.

I talked him into finding a job closer to his home instead of traveling three buses to get to this job.

Good. I remember having to take the bus for work, I can't imagine three. That's gotta be like 2 hours travel time.

smaller mom and pop places are uniquely vulnerable to replacing a key employee, but larger corporate entities can just indefinitely grind through money hiring and firing until they get someone with baseline competency.

Slavery.

update tasks for everyone on Mondays

do a weekly follow up on Thursdays

set deadlines

part of the pay based on performance

Mouse jiggler would be busted very quickly

It's crazy because I was supplementing my income doing food delivery and in one of the restaurants I picked up from. He looked at me and smiled thanking me for showing him a different path. He mentioned that he was paid the same and working less hours with lower transportation times.

I agree because at the current place I work for. People get hired and if they don't meet the standard they get let go and when they meet the standard they realize that they can do better so they leave and eventually you'll get people that feel "comfortable" and don't want to progress and those people are the corks that plug up an organizations holes.

Very few people are good at wfh. I do but we had to fire like 60 percent of our employees because they were so bad at working from home. They were sort of bad/average when we worked in the office too but they're just 100 percent dead weight in a wfh environment. There are people who are just as good if not better from home but they're rare.

zoomers think they can just browse reddit in their underwear at home and get paid

get back to work, you're the reason we are losing to china

What performance plans do you recommend? I'm starting out in HR and would love any tips I can get from seasoned professionals

We have some of that going on at my current workplace, not so blatant as to tell people they're replaceable to their face but they are constantly repeating to the staff, "You guys need to learn how to do more with less." We're simultaneously getting complaints that our department isn't responding fast enough to service calls while when we lose someone their position gets closed instead of looking for someone else.

I've inadvertently convinced two of our guys to quit already and am on my way out as well. There's no reason to stay in a place with no future.

Micromanagers basically

Every corporation is doing this, because it’s a form of soft-layoffs. The economy is in a poor spot right now, so companies need to trim the fat where they overextended themselves when investment and free VC money was flowing in like water.

Doing real layoffs makes them look weak and makes their share values go down, so mandating “return to office” is a way around that: majority of people who work remote are probably not living in a city where an EA headquarters is located, so they’ll have no choice but to quit or get fired for not obeying the mandate.

By the way, how do employees not hate the word “obey?” What are you, kids afraid of getting yelled at by the teacher? I will never understand people with an employee mindset.

That's what gets me about those small places. They need someone more than anywhere that can wear many hats and juggle different tasks competently but they're just as prone to thinking anyone can do the job for the places they hire for. It's really telling when they get furious when you finally do leave and try to tell you wouldn't make it elsewhere, like they were doing you a favor.

Not to mention that companies over-hired like you wouldn’t believe over the past decade when said free investment money was flowing in. They over-hired like crazy because it was a way to fake-signal “growth” and boost their share value, and bait even more investment money.

I could never do factory work. Working an assembly line is soul draining and I feel terrible a good portion of the population will be stuck doing it.

I've worked in factories before, but it's always been as a support staff, either their computer guy or radio man. I've been able to roam around the place mostly freely so long as my work gets done.

The situation I can get from this scenario is that management isn't focusing so much on the problem but is trying to pass off the blame to other people. They should work on a system that instead of just telling workers to work with less, come up with solutions to show what they can do with actual plans in place.

The truth is, all employers—big and small—have the same mentality where they view themselves as your masters and you’re just their slaves. You are way too low on the food chain and they can’t fathom that you would be able to eke out an existence without selling yourself into servitude to their benevolent powers.

For someone who feels guilty for slacking off, I feel like wfh increased my workload by a hundredfold while I make basically the same. Going back to the office would be a lot better for me because then I'd have to cope with travel time between meetings again, attend to in office ceremonies, which often take more time, personally walk to people's desks and whatnot

cracked.com/article_19567_7-bizarre-trends-that-predict-economic-collapse.html

Usually I don't link joke websites but I agree with the fake job growth. It's a trend similar in small towns where everyone has a "help wanted" sign on the front window. It's to trick investors or the local community into thinking that everything is fine when in face the ship is sinking.

Commiefornia commercial real estate scams.

Nope. it was leaked by one of the primary animators as leverage in his disputes with Neil Druckmann and Evan Wells when they started threatening him.
Same thing happened during Mass Effect 3 when another animator at BioWare got disgruntled working on the ME3 ending, so he leaked it the same week it was getting produced, and got fired after pressuing management with demands.

Don't feel guilty. Feeling anything negative weighs you down on all faucets of your life. Start focusing on what you can think of positively and expand from there. What should have happened with WFH jobs is people should have pursued more training in their fields or branch off into learning another field of work with better benefits

Based and estatepilled

Simple - they have massive offices they're paying equally huge rent on. Without workers in them they're useless.

It's hard to not go into a guilt trip man, my oh so hard working family hardwired that thing into my brain when I was basically a little kid

Ironically enough this is a safe zone my man. I used to be that way until I realized that regardless of what I do or how much I do if it. It'll get done.

"When looking in the mirror, it's helpful to practice positive self-affirmation. Many people might say things like, "I am capable," "I am enough," or "I will make today great." These affirmations can boost confidence and promote a positive mindset. What you say can vary based on your mood and goals, but focusing on self-acceptance and encouragement is often beneficial."

Small company of about 12 employees

Everyone WFH, no office

Projects are set on weekly deadlines

Have literally never had an issue with people phoning it in. I could not give a fuck what people do between Monday-Thursday as long as they hand in quality work on Friday.

How long are you going to keep running this cycle? Where everything is progressing as it should but you are not happy? Eventually you'll look back and ask yourself "why was I worried at all?" Please accept that even though you are a hardworking individual. You are still a human with emotions and that you are enough!

office spaces make loads of dosh for real estaters, they got a huge lobby, that's the only reason

Unironically worthless middle management can't justify their existence without ruining everyone's day by forcing them to commute and sit in a soulless, corporate environment. Especially in tech development their job can essentially be done by a project management platform and one project leader.

Most normies literally can't do their shit unless someone else tells them, getting threatened by deadlines and basically needing "structures" to reach in wagie "mindset".

how the fuck do i stay motivated during wfh
feels like an uphill battle

I just blast EDM
makes me want to code

hasn't had a lunch break or paid sick leave in 8 years.

never eats and never sick

this guy's a robot

I became irreplaceable

nobody is irreplaceable. it takes one retarded suit who thinks you're useless

Bingo! With this economic situation worldwide, if they can find someone cheaper and close to your skill set. They will kick you to the curb

This only works in companies where you can get away with doing nothing. I don't work in game dev but we do work remote, I go into the office maybe once a week, and it's very simple: we just keep track of what we did that week and present it Friday.
If you're doing fuck all, it will be very obvious very soon

Tell us some stories of people getting the good or the bad of this policy please!

Working remotely is antinatural, no one should do it and it rots your soul. If you're a man and you "work" remote you'rea failure. It should be reserved for couples with children who are struggling financially and only for the woman.

Because they saw how much the renting the office building costs and then compared it to it's usage and figured out that they need to pump that number up to justify the cost

But wouldn't it be cheaper then to have everyone wfh

Yes, but since the board and CEO own the company that's renting the fucking building, they don't want to lose out on those amazing profits

tl;dr jews being jews

Retard managers are useless. I've had a few good managers and, surprise, they had no problem with WFH
However, managers are usually selected on how well they lick boots, not on how well they know processes and how to manage properly, so good managers (who rarely if ever have a problem with WFH) are rare

wfh us based

been checked out for a while but need to be picky with new job because I would have to commute so I need a decent pay raise

putting in 16+ hour days into mmos with no intention of stopping until I get a job offer

I didn't even put hours into games like this when I was a kid

Bingo!

go back

Hell no, i actually went there on the two weeks this place was shut down and it sucked ass. I just use that phrase to bump this thread because it contains a lot of different perspectives

if your tasks can be done remotely then they could probably be automated to an extent.

that doesn't follow

Stop asking questions just obey your masters, they’re rich so they must know what’s good for you.

Because sequel harassment is better in person

So Americans also see themselves as temporarily embarrassed employers I see
Why do they hate worker rights and generally having a good time so much?

why is every game dev company ending remote work?

They've had a lot of failures and wasted time so they need a scapegoat. Behold as nothing will change before your very eyes.

Then automate my task mister boss, do it by next month.
Call your engineers and do it since it can be done. Since it's only a matter of time. Simply say "computer automate this man" and poof i'm useless, my task isn't even complicated. I can imagine it being automated yet it seems a little bit difficult, i notice some struggling in the factual implementation, as if it isn't working that well and i'm still at work.

If I do the same job working from home i do in the office, what does it matter to you what i do in the downtime? Control freaks retards

You should tell that to your chief instead of anonymous.

Anyone here still working from home since 2020? How many of us are left?

im 100% wfh since then and the company is starting to "encourage" people to go into the office again. ive always told myself ill just hand in my notice the moment they start forcing me

because they fire all the western remote devs and open studios in india.

Every time I go to the office, people are at their desks doing actual work like 10% of the time, everyone is just coming and going, making conversation, etc., and its even worse because they distract others around them as well.
People who wanna waste time will always find a way.

I don't know if that's a good strategy anymore, there's barely any new WFH offers left. It's not 2020 anymore

if your tasks can be done remotely then they could probably be automated to an exten

Funny that most of the jobs actually automated so far since the industrial revolution are jobs that couldnt be done remotely.

for me it'd be less a case of finding another WFH role but finding a better in-office role. i'm not taking what's effectively a pay cut to commute to a building where im expected to do what i was doing from home

You're going to end up like the guy in Ikiru.

My job is to automate processes, automate my automation setup chuddie :^)

That's true. Also, some people will perform better in an office environment, some others on remote. Really, the main reason for the push to return to offices is sunk costs, companies spent a ton of money on renting fancy rooms with bean chairs and tea and noms corners.

The move back to offices is in large because the social parasites can't function without socially ankward talented people to smooch off. Remote work started to single out the people who can't in reality do their work and they were mostly the social butterflies and middle management. Modern corporations simply cannot function in a state where the employees are expected to do their job, the people whose only skillsets are gaslighting people face to face are in charge.

I WFH 4 days a week in finance and usually save all my work for my 1 day in the office. What I've noticed as a tech literate 30-something is that there are usually two types of people who are claiming to always be busy:

The 50+ boomer who's used a computer for over 30 years but still finger pecks on a keyboard. They only just remember ctrl+c but paste by right clicking.

The people you describe who are doing absolutely fuck all and filling their diaries with pointless meetings, and block booking hours every day as "crunch time"

The first group are inefficient by today's standards but usually come with a wealth of old knowledge that is invaluable. The second lot need weeding out but as you say, that's on the org. In my org, both groups are in abundance.

im fucking ugly, got a huge beak nose thats been the bane of my existence. wfh makes me feel human again and not some ogre in business casual.

A nose job costs a couple of K's. If anyone asks you got it done medically because you had respiratory problems. Simple as. Now shut up.

The desk job cunts either worked very hard to get the skills they needed for their jobs or had good social intuition and sucked up to the right people. Either way, they made sacrifices. Meanwhile, you're too retarded not to get milked dry at your dead-end job.

Time for work. Time for youtube and Anon Babble.

i just dont have that tranny mentality where lopping of organs is how i fix things.

company finally announces that they're canceling wfh and everyone's forced to come back in the office

go in for like a week

see literally nobody on my team there

fuck this shit

go back to working from home

it's been months and nobody has said anything about it

I bet this is going to bite me in the ass eventually but they'd have to hire three people to replace me so fuck 'em.

You niggers replied seriously at a Loss meme.

it's been months and nobody has said anything about it

they fixed the glitch

Good on you, anon.

aw hell. wouldnt return to officbox after 8 years of WFH

Why don't they just pay people upon completion of task? Wouldn't that solve all problems?

Massive accounting trouble, along with unclear definition of a "task" that could be stretched in employees' favor.

People pushing for the end of wfh are mostly people who want to socialise but have nothing going for them outside of work and people who need a timeout from their families for whichever reason. Its literally grown up daycare. They couldnt give two shits about wether more or less work is done.

Lots of bitching from people that can do their job over email like some shitty PBEM civ game. Hey! You're replaceable by a combination of pajeets and graphics cards, so go to work!

people who need a timeout from their families for whichever reason. Its literally grown up daycare

I didn't realise this was a thing until I went out for a meal with my team and the subject came up. Everyone over the age of 40 said they liked coming into the office specifically to get away from their kids

That's contractual work and it's precarious as fuck. It's how the app based gig economy works as well, all the rights these uber drivers have is the freedom to quit whenever they feel like starving.

Performing a task for an agreed upon price? I never! My code is emailed in on my time, and don't forget my 401k and expensive healthcare plan and what do you mean I'm fired if I don't come into the office, you can't treat me like I treat my untipped coffee drivers!

There are 4 people who still haven't been to the office were I work since the start of covid and they all have crippling mental health issues and they're now fat as fuck. They were fine before covid and no, they aren't vaxxed.
Sad.

Are you a business owner or just jealous? In any case you're pointing your weapon at the wrong enemy, the ultra rich would cum reading your post

Actually I sometimes use the drive thru and everyone who works from home would be more productive bagging my fries.

I am literally sitting in my office for 6 hours a day I fucking hate the workplace you have to be constantly be metagaming your hours instead of being able to just do your job

I still don't understand the point of an office.

Okay and those people having a chill job is a problem for you because...? Are you a business owner or just jealous?

I work better from home

This should immediately get you fired. Nobody has ever worked better when at home.

I do. Way too much noise in the office. Sorry anon.

No you dont. Your fired.

Most people work better at home because they don’t have to LARP for 8 hours, they just do the task and then jerk off in their underwear until the next one. In the office you have to spend 2 hours reloading your stapler to look busy or your manager will yell at you because his boss will yell at him if he doesn’t yell at you

You should see some of the offices some of us are put in. I work better from home but honestly I would work better even from a football stadium during a game. My last office was pure hell.

why is every game dev company ending remote work?

why don't people pay people who don't work

home office is literally 90% not working, yea very strange op have fun growing up lmao

Bros...

I'm 27 and I've never had a job ever
I live somewhere with no public transportation and I don't drive
I have no idea how to even begin trying to function in society and no one will help me

when i was in the office before i had ping pong balls landing on my desk daily

Have you asked this exact question to friends and family? They will help you.
Otherwise start from getting a driving licence and in the meantime find a job. Unironically ask chat gpt for help btw, worth a try.

Nonwhites ruin everything.

Most people work better at home because they don’t have to LARP for 8 hours

There's not a single study showing this is true retard. There's no way you work better at home than in an office setting.

our new games flop, we are losing relevancy...

look goyi... I mean gamers! It's because of the remote work, we are bringing all the workers back to the offices! They will be supervised now!

just a simple PR trickery

there's no study to prove this

so the opposite is true (remember, there is no study)

ok

Because they want to justify the costs of owning and managing office space and because if the corpos don't see their slaves working they just assume they aren't, and nothing makes a suit seethe more than an employee not working

trust the science Chud, I gave this guy a gorillion dollars to prove you need to go into the office

You don't need a study for that, just basic brain, if companies stop home office and force these cuck back into the office. There's a reason for that.

You're just mad. There's no way you work better at home than in an office setting.

just basic brain

lol

You're just mad

Have you thought about the chance that some offices are absolutely awful? You know incompetent managers exist, right?

Indeed long term contracts force a company to treat the worker much better than a disposable slave. It's why they try not to issue them.
It was difficult to comprehend what you were trying to post about.
In any case there is an entire landscape of safeguarded respectful careering over here, my dear thirdy. Why is my food always served to me by blacks or arabs? It's getting weird. The cleaning ladies are never white either, neither is security or my bus driver or the construction guys OH JAYSUS JAYSUS OH LAWD JAYSUS CRIST

proof?

I don't like them.

if you work from home, you don't work, trust me!

now get back to the office like I am, I don't want to be the only person being miserable!

what the fuck are you babbling about?

Nothing much. You got any work done at home today? I've just been browsing this thread.

I don't know what this is about, please speak with HR. On site.

all these corporate cocksuckers in this thread

Americans are actually so fucking sad and pathetic. I don't get how you become and live your life like that.

I'm not WFH. And no, I just woke up and am having my breakfast while I watch Starcraft.

Pictured: a productive crab being prevented from returning to normal office work by the do-nothing crustaceans.

Reported for VIDEOGAMES. Enjoy your ban.

WFH = pro-people and pro-worker
Office = pro-corpos and pro-banker

Turns out none of us live in nations that actually care about their people. Come back Hitler.

Some blue collar wagie is absolutely jealous and fuming at white collar chads ITT

It's just one guy, I swear we're not all like that. Also we're on Anon Babble it's not fair

there's no obligation when working from home

The people seething about people working from home have never done it, have they?
It makes sense the miserable faggots would want everyone else to be miserable as well.

Because other people are willing to take your job if you don't want it anymore.

Most of them don't even work office jobs.

Hitler loved work from home and your home is Dachau. Those Todt fortifications aren't going to dig themselves!

One day i know it's going to happen. I'm going to type "loli futanari" on the wrong keyboard right into the department-wide channel. It's only a mater of time.

To all the anons who say less work gets done from home, how is it that these employees stay employed if they're not doing the work they're supposed to?

B-Because.... BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T OKAY?! NOW BE MISERABLE LIKE I AM!

You seem angry. There is no need to be so upset.

K is the only way to guarantee being born NaN (Not a Nigger) so I'll go with that. Tasmania if dubs

all companies seem to be ending remote work, i've been looking for 7 months for a job in IT with over 10 years of experience and i still have nothing

just use ai to make disgsuting porn for money, since I assume you have no art skills anyway

G of course

loli

based

futanari

CRINGE

Old boomers invested into housing that is completely useless apart from trapping hundreds of humans into them for 8 hours every day for workt hey coudld o at home in 4 hours.
They will not let this housing bubble crash and let the space be used for normal living.

ERP with ai using wildcards, generating random schoolgirls 5 at a time

unless I say name of Nordic/Slavic countries it always shoves in shitskins and POOs into the mix

England is the worst

all the amerilards ITT siding with the corpo

Of course you do lol. The reason is simple, to kick off more people.

introduce remote work

guy who lives 200km away starts working

psyche, now you need to return to office

guy quits, no need to pay them or fire them

I assume retards like this make money scalping pokemon cards

If you run an organization where do-nothing employees go unnoticed, that's on the org, that's on the team. Where's the accountability? I worked at a very small company once (which EA is not, obviously) and if people weren't doing jack shit everyone noticed right away and they got canned the same week.

The problem there is genz thinks anyone keeping an eye on work output is 'micromanaging' and 'toxic behavior' Millenials were already bad enough for this, but it's got to fever pitch now.

GenZ cannot be trusted to do work from home, ever. They're a broken generation.

I don't have friends or family that can help
My dad lives off social security and credit card debt

Everybody in this thread who hates remote work is someone who was forced to work in person even during covid
You should want the best for everyone, not crusading against the other crabs in your bucket for trying to leave
Selfish faggots

Then do the other thing I told you. Start from getting a driving licence and in the meantime find a job. Unironically ask chat gpt for help, literally just paste your first post and it will give you ideas

You in the states? Every job I've had was WFH even before covid and I still come across them all the time.

I don’t care if someone watches my work output it’s the micromanaging of work flow I hate.

uhhhhh you can’t get your work done and wait for work if you got time to lean you got time to clean xD

no, europe. you can of course find remote listings from bulgaria on linkedin with 1000 applicants but what's the point

You never worked in corporate and it shows faggot. Every meeting you have is a bullshit meeting, every dogshit jeet can‘t do shit and you need to help them, every disgusting pm or businessanalyst jeet can‘t do shit.
All of that is fucking annoying as hell.

but I can't get a job without a car and license
that's the whole problem
suburbs are literally hell on earth

If you actually did the work, you'd still be able to work from home.
Since you didn't. You can't. It's that simple.

Corpos loved the idea of WFH, since it absolved many of their liabilities and insurance requirements. It makes employees cost less.
But you simply can't be trusted to actually get the work done.

Man if only companies figured out you could demand reports from their employees working remotely to make sure they're actually working. Oh wait.

Read my post well, anon: "START from getting a driver licence". In the meantime while you're doing that you could study something at home that would help in the search, or just start spamming your resume everywhere.
Have you asked chat gpt yet?

I can't start with something I'm not capable of

What does that mean? You know they have to teach you do drive, right? They will teach you anon.

Idiot he doesn't want to be helped he's just here to whine

Same, bongland. All the companies I work/get offers for are based here and pay average wage. Dunno how it works if you're in the EU but I usually aim for smaller businesses that have a team spread out across the country.

no they don't
the dmv doesn't do shit except paperwork and wasting your time

Why are you incapable of obtaining a drivers license?

Because they want people to quit, otherwise they have to start firing people.

jfc dude
You're supposed to go to a driving school. They will teach you to drive before your exam.

Starting to see this

Harder to micromanage remote workers

Wasn't it demonstrated that the productivity was the same, but the time spent on work was less? Corpos wanting people back in the office may be as simple as "that's how it's supposed to be". You can also bet that managers want them back in the office, since it's harder to seem like you're doing any work if you can't pretend to do management that actually results in anything. Some office managers will demand everyone wastes their time on a meeting that doesn't do anything other than slow down the work that has to be done. Try talking to office workers and notice how many of them have been subject to an incompetent manager that does dumb shit because no one is supposed to find out that they're redundant at best, a hinderance at worst.

Also, don't forget that if they're paying someone for 8 hours of work, but they finish it in 4, then that's a waste of money in their eyes. There's so much play-pretend in these environments

Where's the accountability?

Big companies can have departments that are sort of "self-made". I work at a company with a few thousand employees and there are people doing queationable staff training, people responsible for buying and piloting questionable third party stuff (in the name of productivity), people working on new products to sell (myself included haha), many of which don't make profit. It's a little world of its own.

I literally didn't.

implying anything is born in k

You should want the best for everyone, not crusading against the other crabs in your bucket for trying to leave

kys IT cuck you getting replaced by AI anyway, your job is literally useless, better start to learn a profession that serves humanity like baker, but you would need to wake up 4 in the morning kek.

Pre COVID studies on employees working from home revealed that employees who didn't go to the office at least three days a week suffered massive loss of productivity

agile/scrum

competent

lol, lmao even

Are you an upper middle class 20 year old girl?

because middle management is now in danger of being laid off
you don't need a guy to sit around an empty office.
and landlords are getting terrified corporate will realize they don't need to pay for an overpriced office with no workers in it
and cities are getting terrified businesses will realize there's no reason to stay in a city if they don't have an office there and don't have any workers there

Source?

That's my experience from a few years ago as well. Took me several months to find a job and it seemed that people looked at my CV only because they new my previous boss.

That's not the case.
Wew your argument was easy to invalidate, i've won a great victory against the baby today.

Turns out black people don’t “work” when they have “remote”

they realized people dont actually do any work at home
not that they do much work at the office either, but 0.1 is more than 0

Scott adams

Because they watch tv?

The dilbert guy?

This only works in companies where you can get away with doing nothing.

That's any big company.
The government is the worst when it comes to this.

2 reasons
1. Middle management is feeling their power diminish and need to stay breathing on the necks of productive people
2. Lots of "diverse" employees are incredibly lazy and abusive of the privilege of working from home, it's basically what public workers do too.

And now the bunch of responsible people and autists that benefited from staying home and/or no commute making their work life balance better will suffer for the actions of two groups of roaches.

I don't think middle management is the issue with this. These directives are typically coming from high up the corporate ladder, usually from clueless executives who think "we were doing better before covid so obviously WFH is the culprit". I also have a hard time blaming HR, despite having many reasons to hate HR. HR is mostly women and women WFH more than anyone and fight the hardest to keep the perk. Pretty much every teams meeting I have with women when they talk I can hear kids or dogs in the background. At my company the engineers/programmers are on the bottom floor, the HR/purchasing and other administrative roles on the second floor and the executive management is on the third floor. The likelihood of working from home seems to increase the higher floors you go in the building.

Another reason to avoid these dumbass goons.
They think their customers are bitches who's there to pay their rent for them. Nah, I'm not your daddy, fuck you.

and landlords are getting terrified corporate will realize they don't need to pay for an overpriced office with no workers in it

Why would the landlord care? They just turn the office building into a refugee hostel and collect subsidies from the state, you retard lmao. The company want you back so they can control you're fucking working.

we want you to come back into the office and we will support you in this

here is a bus timetable or you can use your money to buy a bicycle

7 months without a job

How the fuck do you survive?

you're on a board that defends nintendo, laughs at workers being laid off by thousands, and worships elon musk

unemployment welfare insurance and savings, but i only get about 1200€ a month

I would really like to work at such a place that actually gives you any opportunity to be a mouse wiggler.
At least in my company that has voluntary office days I have made the personal experience that I work more at home than at office, simply because I don't have anyone coming to talk, water cooler conversations, coffee kitchen, HR cunts getting on my nerves and so on, and other people report the same, whereas at home I work, do my break and then work some more.
What I am doing though is trying to prevent overtime, because I am salaried and I don't see why I should donate lifetime to the company instead of selling it, so if there isn't some emergency that warrants doing something NOW I log off at 5pm sharp.

so you have nothing left if you pay rent

my rent is about 410€ and i live quite cheap, but it's not like i can afford much else than food and basic things outside of that

As of yet, AI can't be used for something like coding without someone qualified overseeing it. If you want an AI to code, then you need a coder to work with it. AI makes mistakes all the fucking time, but will act completely confident while it does it

410€

so single room apartment anything with more than 2-3 room would be 600-800€. I'm a landlord.

he looks at his keyboard while typing

boomer detected

yep about 45 square meters i think, quite cramped with shitty layout and hasn't been renovated in like 40 years

Gotta justify middle management jobs somehow.

i use github copilot daily and it feels like fucking tardwrangling. it's great for donkey work but i don't know how anyone can just blindly copy and paste from it

nta it's great for making small features and repetitive work yeah, but it can introduce severe bugs if you don't check the code. it speeds up my workflow considerably.

I'm a landlord.

Kill yourself

I prefer hybrid to be honest. 3 at home 2 at the office is perfect

Liberals get upset when they're forced to work

Many such cases

What's the matter tranny? You can be one too.
But you will never be a woman.

Spoken like a tr

It's just an excuse to get people to quit instead of getting fired and needing to pay severance.

I managed to be my own boss and now I WFH 365 days per year. I was a minimum wage slave 2 years before.

I currently have a shitty retail job. Lifting boxes mostly. I'd really like a shitty office job where I don't have to lift boxes. Where can I apply with such limited experience?

We just started doing agile at my company. Everyone fucking hates it.

For the record, I prefer to work in the office, I get too easily distracted at home.
I think that a significant thing for working in the office is kinda company culture things. When I am working on a bugfix or some bullshit that someone else has written. If they're near me and I need to ask them wtf they were thinking when they built whatever it is, it's far easier to turn around and talk to them, instead of opening up a chat app, sending a message and then waiting to either call the person or send 20 messages back and forward.
Also there's plenty of times where I'll make a tea and chat with people and what they're working on and we get to finding a good solution to either not doing the work because it's unnecessary, finding a way it's already been done and can share code or brainstorming solutions to problems we're having.
It also helps to share ideas on architecture and discussing shit that frustrates or that we need to do better.
This is the good shit of working in an office, but as per usual, management types fuck it all up by getting involved.
I wish Google still did the 80-20 thing where they encouraged people to work on whatever they felt like for 20% of their time. It sucks to see how toothless and generic Google became from their 90s and early 2000s tech-focused Google.

holy shit are you me?
Biggest problem with organizations that can't fail is that they would rather operate with a skeleton crew that gets nothing done than operate with a crew that can get anything done because at least the skeleton crew is cheap.

I'm the opposite.
I hate working in the office because there's constant distractions by people that obviously have no work to do.
At home I can work on whatever I need to do and will call someone if I need their input. And I get the benefit of doing it on a comfy chair/in bed/on the patio instead of being stuck in some shithole office with headache inducing lighting after an hour of commute making me miserable before I've even gotten there.

I dont mind the office in general, working from home I'm mostly sitting at my PC the same way I am if I was at the office. I mind the commute/prep time and extra costs.

Even if work is just 15 minutes away, that also means I have to wake up an hour earlier to have a shower, get dressed, prepare my shit, etc., and then when I come home its also extra time lost on that, and thats with a shortish commute, people on average have like 20/30 minutes or more.

I would easily take a 10% pay cut to work from home if it came to that over having to go back to the office and have to waste all that time that isnt being paid.

Worked before covid and hated it, 2 days WFH made my work life feel so much better. But now my company has no seating space to have everyone in the office due to reducing the number of floors we rent, so I guess they can't force us.

Yeah I have friends who talk like this too. I totally get that WFH is really good for some people/companies and not so much for others.
It's a lot about company culture IMO, if the company has a bunch of employees who don't have any work and fuck around too much, the work suffers.
Shitty office and commutes absolutely is a good reason to push for WFH. I really think that companies should allow WFH as long as the employee can prove that the're as productive or more productive from home.
It feels like WFH varies a lot person to person and should be treated as such.

Are you doing scrum? Agile is great but scrum is a complete bastardization of it. Having meetings for the sake of it is the exact opposite of agile.

Sounds like the rats are fleeing the sinking ship. Not trying to insult you, but rats fleeing a sinking ship is an apt metaphor for comapnies that don't know wtf they're doing and don't respect their staff start to collapse.
Good luck dude, I hope you get out and I hope the higher-ups who told you to do more with less lose their jobs.

I literally cannot

Wouldn't WFH save companies money due to having less money to spend on leasing space? Or even utilities, like internet usage?

It's really just because companies want to be able to surveil the employees, not any excuse of efficiency.

Maybe if you weren't a worthless idiot you'd be a white color like me.

The unfortunate reality is the company I work for fully owns the building we're in, so they have to force people back into it to justify the cost of ownership.
Thankfully my boss told our team to only show up twice a week. Still annoying as fuck though.

Unfortunately, companies buy buildings or do long term leases on entire floors so the opposite happen. They need people to come back to the office to justify the building cost in the first place.

Remote work = leaks and stolen sensitive documents. Someone just takes a photo of their screen.
In-office leakers leave a paper trail and it takes more effort to successfully leak.

Employees don't like it but blame the guys leaking everything and selling trade secrets and bragging about how little work they do.

Yep scrum. Spend more time in meetings and fucking around with the piece of shit that is jira than actual coding.

Anon, in-office leaks occur the same way as wfh leaks. Random person emails/calls them and ask for password, they give, hacker now has access to all of the companies data. It's also the same way people get caught, it's the same goddamn paper trail.

That sucks, are you job searching? Working and looking for a new job feels like working 80 hours a week. Shit fucking suuuuccckkss and interviewing is for sure one of the circles of hell.
Once you get the new job, it feels like you're floating on air.
Your boss sounds like a cool guy though

jesus fuck we have the same shit and it fucking sucks.

I work at the map factory and it wants to gain this nuAge veneer of social open work environment sporting lean smart looking people buzzing around.
Seemingly unaware that the typical employee is a geography nerd collecting vintage maps and who's idea of "sexy" is a railway bridge penetrating several mountainsides.
We've got multiple dozens of extremely autistic neckbeards walking about, the kind with their shirt collar peeking out from the sweater, the kind to stop dead in his tracks and stare at you like a fish for 5 seconds before greeting you back. The kind who buys land survey equipment for fun, for the weekend.
And they want to make this Agile. The upside is that the archives are getting relocated so they're giving out leather maps dating from 1789 and genuine medieval town zoning maps and shit.

It widens the gap between productive and nonproductive. Some people did great working from home. But most people slack off hard.

actually sounds kind of cool
not the agile part i mean

agile can work for some companies
but when you work for a company in a highly regulated industry it doesn't work well at all

Real state devaluation.

and if your tasks can be done remotely then they could probably be automated to an extent.

lolno fucking retard

along with unclear definition of a "task" that could be stretched in employees' favor.

You mean "that would definitely be streched in employer's favor"

Because troons would rather post on bluesky than work

Back when I was fully remote I would do consistent 2-3 hours of work every day. In the rest of the time I would keep the work screen on 1 monitor and do my other shit on the other. But because of that I'd sometimes keep it on a bit even after hours, maybe reply to a message or help someone.

Since they brought me in 3days/week, I do ZERO work on the days I am at home. When I go office, I:

wake up at 9:30am ("work hours" start at 9)

do my own shit until 11am

go office at 12

eat/drink/fuck around until 13

do actual work until 15

go gym until 17

jerk around until 17:30 when I leave 30min early

So when all is said and done, I do the exact same work in terms of hours as when I was fully remote. The only problem is that I now have stupid fucking commute time AND when I jerk around in the office I need to waste time watching brainrot on my phone - had I been at home I'd spend that time on something productive (hobbies).

Oh and btw I've been a top performer in all of these years anyways.

in all the pointless meetings i like to count the number of times these smart/casual wankers say some variation of "lean into"

I think remote work is fine if the people are actually productive. Productive, as in the work they're putting in brings value, not so much about the amount.
But EA is in deep shit, especially now after Bioware and Troonguard caused them massive losses.

climbing the ladder and putting in honest work

So you worked hard to get more responsibilities for 1% more pay? Pass.

Company demanded us to come back, claimed people work less at home.
This is the third year I purposely work way less at the office than at home and the company still has yet to notice. In other words, companies are just fucking faggots that have no idea about anything on average.

Scrum can work but most managers think its just an excuse to dump their job on developers. Devs shouldn't be spending multiple days every sprint writing stories and managing product backlogs

Remote work devaluate middle-managers. Makes companies realize they don't need as many of them.

Be on night shift in a hospital

COVID hits, everyone gets the greenlight to work from home and only have one person in the department at the office to reduce exposure

Be retarded and insist on coming in to the office every shift because "the rest of the hospital has to do it, it's only fair"

Realize my retardation two weeks into it but am now committed

Everyone thinks COVID is a death sentence

Nurses panicking on shift

Try and cheer one of them up who's having a particularly bad day

She plants a big kiss on me and squeezes the life out of me with a hug

Make out in the stairwell

Progress to fucking on the job as destress

Get married two years later after COVID mostly ends

Absolutely ecstatic I didn't take work from home

I will now stop working from home so I can get a big-tiddy goth wife too.

Look anon, the companies have a 5-10 year lease on this office space and they are not going to waste the money they already spent on an empty building. It makes the company look bad and shareholders whine about it. Time to sit your ass down on a computer, commute for at least one hour every day and eat crap from the vending machine even though you can do 90% of the work in the comfort of your own house.

But my boss said change is always good!

So when all is said and done, I do the exact same work in terms of hours as when I was fully remote

This is true for the majority. It's just that working an office gives some people the illusion that they everything they're doing at work is "work" (where they think asking coworkers about political things, complaining to each other, "hanging out" and things like this at work counts as work). Ever since I've been back in the office I am legitimately less productive than I was when I was WFH.

I mean, I would be a happy camper if work provided big tiddy goth gfs for workers who show up, I don't know why they can't just make that happen.

funniest thing is that my team essentially has 1 person/system. So on the days I go in, I sit on my chair, put on the headphones and work in silence. Most of the times if I work with someone else they are in other regions so we speak over teams anyways. MAYBE 10 minutes in the day are spent actually talking to the people around me.

Not picking J and spawning as a Penguin

If your work can be done from home then it's not important and it's just another bullshit job

Actually important jobs like doctor, mechanic, teacher, garbage man or farmer require you to work outside

Good point. So you support ending capitalism?

Fascist China has better future than capitalistic west

only if you're a pretty girl and have sex with your manager

posted from a marvel technological achievement from people who worked sitting by a desk

Based. I don't mind when they just admit they are lazy fucks but this whole "oh I work so much better from home" is complete bullshit. No you don't, basically no one does. The vast majority of humans would prefer to relax rather than work hard, I don't know why it's such a shocking revelation.

My company is big

It's just that working an office gives some people the illusion that they everything they're doing at work is "work"

Also so they can say "I been at work ALL DAY. I'm so exhausted!" when in reality they only did a couple of hours (if that) of actual work and just fucked around killing time with a lunch break thrown in.

No, it's not bullshit, you're a retard.

No one in the office works hard, they literally can't stop bothering me with small talk and going for coffee/snacks every 2 mins because they have nothing else to do. It's just adult daycare

Did she get killed by her nigger bf later? these retards really should be put in a zoo.

Kek automate my task then, good luck
Your post is the mark of a person who either a) has never been more than a spreadsheet monkey doing data entry, or b) some butthurt tradie

I've been working from home as a software dev since 2020 and I'd never ever go back to the office
It's more efficient to code without distractions, in a 4k monitor and with a good pc, there's no debate about it

But muh productivity

Projects that use scrum and agile already know if you're productive or not regardless of where you do your job

Aside from this, we had a woman who also despite being 40, was under the impression her husband didn't know she smokes and wanted to come to the office so she could smoke.
Her husband was a non-smoker, so obviously he could tell, he just didn't care
Also, woman, you're 40 lmao, just smoke if you want to

This is the truth and its pathetic nobody wants to just admit it. One of my coworkers literally told me he likes coming into to work because he can have time away from his family. He's in his 50s. He for years he comes in, does some things that take all of a few hours to do, then sits and does nothing but play on his phone, listen to music, and rage about Trump and what he saw on Jon Stewart or something and whatever else.

Its literally grown up daycare. They couldnt give two shits about wether more or less work is done

100% accurate.

We've settled on a segregated organization with the normal well adjusted people grouped in the front units, open for visits and the un-presentables in the back offices where the smell of expertise lingers.
Management must have finally met the lunatic who makes pig noises all day long, 70yo "heheyy gurl.." Edmund or the blair witch guy facing the corner in the elevator again. Welcome to Geodata Refinement, You Are Here.

bingo. its these reasons, in order:

1) quiet layoffs
2) upper management wants to fully "own" that person during their working hours (basically an ideological ick caused by remote work)
3) middle management feels remote work makes their job harder when they cant hover over employees
4) fear of inefficiency or mouse jigglers
POWER GAP
5) actual inefficiency or mouse jiggler usage

and i've yet to find much research that remote work is inefficient. i have however, found a lot of research to the opposite. most anti-remote talk pieces bring up shit like how the watercooler is an intangible benefit to the worker. and i'm sure it is to the management, but it is less so to the average drone trying to solve bugs at their desk while billy the middle manager is yelling about his boat at the water cooler next to him

that's not the same. Not talking about phishing. Talking about the guys who think they can get away with leaking. In-office secret projects need to be signed for and cannot leave the building at any competent workplace. If you take a moment to think about it, the frequency of confirmed leaks has been much higher since remote work became common 20 years ago and went into overdrive five years ago

I really don't know how anyone drinks the corpo koolaid when it comes to rolling back WFH. They obviously don't give a shit about fucking productivity when line keeps going up and they keep having mass layoffs in response.

So they can justify the money they waste on renting their office

I disagree. Men should never be working in feminized offices with women. The very existence of those offices is anti natural. Those places are just gossip hubs and adult daycares.

Wouldn’t even hand in a notice. I would just block their number and emails and ghost them the second they sent out that notice.

I do ZERO work on the days I am at home

Doing it wrong and just proving the boomerjews right. Office days are no work days.

I don't see my WFH ever ending because, like many Anons already noted, my productivity is tracked by how much work I get done per week not by when I 'clock in' and 'clock out'

yeah agreed it's rude as shit to sign someone off as a WFH and then later demand them to come to the office without at least a pay bump

living near a city and commuting costs like 1-2 hours a day and possibly hundreds of dollars a month

muh AI

You are fucking retarded.

Because too many remote workers have taken the piss by doing less work than they would in an office

Are you a manager? You sound like a manager who enjoys micromanaging and pushing more workload upon your team just because you think you can.
I have never seen anyone be more productive at the office than remotely. Just coffee breaks and smoke breaks alone and socializing time completely destroy work flow and reduces productivity by a lot.

Projects that use scrum and agile are anti-productivity, which is ironic. All that managerial bloat makes them less agile (pun intended) and gets you further away from solving the real world physical problem that your job should be. All of it is just shuffling papers on a desk.

But you’re someone who uses “code” as a verb so I don’t expect you to be very smart.

implying

Laughing at all the lawyers who got disbarred for turning in AI generated work.

Anyone who thinks that corporations are against remote work due to muh efficiency or "muh people slacking off" is a fucking retard.
The actual reasons are the combination of sociopathic middle managers wanting to have the people they used to boss around back in their little wage cell cubicles, and the second reason is the property values of those massive office spaces plummeting if remote work becomes standard.

People cheering for the end of remote work are fucking retards. The only people who actually benefit from the end of remote work are billionares and corporations.

I'm just not going to do skilled work for less than what unskilled workers (middle managers) get. If I get a hint that the boss is retarded I'm done, come fire me when you notice.

Also this. Big corpos pay tens of millions in rent for their big dick skyscrapers in downtown to larp as 80s yuppies, if their entire workforce stays home they lose consistent margins just leaving their HQs to rot abandoned.

cubicles

I wish cubicles were still a thing but it's not the 2010s any more

reminder that literally everyone will get some benefit out of being in the office with their coworkers, I dont care how autistic you are, its good for you

Who ever created this system should at least get a pat in the back

Is this the mind of a redditor? Being impressed by extremely basic shit like "if you didnt do anything you get fired"?

What he is describing is just typical agile method progress reports, there is nothing special about this. It is something exceptional when a company DOESN'T have progress meetings.

No.

The question is if those benefits outweigh the negatives for some people. If you absolutely despise coming into work, then whatever benefit you get can be nullified by the misery you feel

ah yes, the benefit of being forced to talk a about sports at the watercooler.

hey, you know how it is, working hard or hardly working, amirite anon? HAHAHAHAH

Then how are you going to get paid?

tfw my job still hasn't forced return to office

in fact they said I can continue remote work as long as I remain in the state

mouse jiggler is on RIGHT NOW as I play vidya on my gaming PC

youtube.com/watch?v=BfwATtWRUBk

Oh yeah, I forgot the whole "open concept" office space bs that swept the western world.

yes goy get up three hours earlier, cram yourself into the immigrant tube (public transport) and sit around wothless mouth breathers that don't bathe (coworkers) all day and then waste another 2 hours going home

Self employment is easy so far. I'm doing everything for myself instead of some faggot who thinks knowing SQL means he can shove everything he doesn't want to do on to me.

It's just as easy to fuck around and not do any work in the office.

the lunatic who makes pig noises all day long, 70yo "heheyy gurl.." Edmund or the blair witch guy facing the corner in the elevator

Currently giggling like a retard, tell me mooooore

The point is to coerce people like you into taking on extra work out of boredom and doing two jobs for one salary

I'm not even sure what these benefits are supposed to be. I get all the work I'm supposed to get done while WFH and, if anything, it's done better because I don't have to waste time commuting or listening to co-workers in the background.

who cares? they're not making any decent games either way.

The benefits are having karen and Stacey laughing at you behind your back, a 50 year old do nothing manager standing beside you ordering you around and the CEO jerking off to you obeying his commands like a good little pet

tfw i'm duncan

will get some benefit

Yeah, the key word here is "some", compared to all the non-benefits, which are plenty.
So kys retard who has never worked in his office, or even a single day anywhere, in his life.

Finance

How can break into this field and work remotely asap?

This. I go to the office when I *don't* want to work.

Don't care

"my employees won't work unless they are in office!"

So fire them. You're conceding at that point that you have bad employees.
Obviously the real reason people don't want WFH is that most companies already have offices and management jobs would become meaningless, but you can't even pretend a legitimate reason exists for in office work.