ITS OVER
ITS OVER
it never even started
Don't samefag, shill.
HALO SUCKED
1600 words on why Marathon no longer has a chance
Senator Rubshispalms gives 9-word threat to current administration
What’s with journalism's current obsession with counting words?
Halo was actually unfinished fucking dogshit they had to salvage through 3+2 games
I don't even know what Marathon is or why everyone seems to be melting down over it online
do we have an idea how much money sony threw into the toilet with all their gaas garbage? we know concord was 400 million but they also cancelled a bunch of other projects and the ones that are about to release like marathon will no doubt be bombs too
we're looking at possibly a billion dollaridoos pointlessly incinerated
JOIN THE ACK
frog poster is an uninformed retard
Shocking.
OH MOTHER I CAN FEEL THE SOIL FALLNG OVER MY HEAD
It's what? Over
Based ignorant retard
quantifying things makes it seem more authoritative i guess
"list of best games" is weaker than "top 10 best games"
It's over, over!
metadoom
no metamarathon
also a reminder that the art director has an onlyfans
if paul tassi of all "people" says it's over, it's over.
Marathon is a bungie IP from before halo. Old-school doom clone.
They are rebooting it and the artwork looks dumb and gay. Original marathon had a very cool grungy military sci fi aesthetic and this looks like some techno garbage.
Anyways it was recently discovered that bungie lifted nearly the entire art direction from a twatter graphic designer who made a series of posters back in 2017. It wasn't even inspiration. They just straight copy-pasted dozens of this artists designs into their game.
Tranny aesthetics
Live service
Can't even have proximity voice chat because "MUH NO, NO WORDS!!"
Game fucking dies instantly
gamers are not standing for this shit anymore
Hyenas was the pre-shit before the diahrrea overload that was Concord
when this completely 0% masculine faggot Paul Tassi says its over for his beloved Bungie, its REALLY fucking over.
I am always baffled that guys like this can maintain long term relationships with women that aren't sadist dommes, Paul is the kind of guy to get on one knee with his fist up in solidarity for dead Nigger Crackheads and Trannies and do it right next to his Wife/GF.
If I ever dreamed of doing that in front of my wife she'd laugh at me and once she realized I was serious leave me.
That's literally the point.
only people without friends say that
What I don't get, why do they just not make something like Halo? Who the fuck wants to play another extraction br game?
I disagree, but respect your opnion.
the buyout for Bungie was like 3.5 billion, and that was all for making new GAAS and helping the other studios do it too.
we are lookin at WELL over 5 billion dollars FLUSHED down the toilet.
It was funny watching him go from shitting on people saying it was concord 2.0 after the reveal, to growing increasingly concerned during the beta, and then full blackpilled once arc raiders came out with its own beta
is it true that now all the pepes have embed shit on them?
First, you'll need a wife for that to happen to you, anon.
Clueless suits + bloated development cycles
bungie is full of fucking idiots and Sony is peak retard right now
I need a Tldr on arc raiders. Is it good?
western intellectuals:
here is a 1600 words essay on why this slop is dead
me:
I only need a letter: N
The people who made Halo 1-3 haven't been involved as a team with Bungie since ODST. If that same team stayed together they would have made more classics. Just a fact.
Sony just keeps taking live service loss after live service loss and you love to see it.
we don't know, it looks and plays better than this shit, by far.
BUT.. were the Chuds owned?
Their single player first party titles are failing too. I don't see that Ghost of Sushi sequel doing well. New Naughty Dog game will be a PR disaster at release and people are tired of GoW.
the entire idea of this game was a mistake
Holy shit how do you make a game so bad that even a media shill like Paul Tassi says this
Truly, brevity is the soul of the wit.
did one lazy artist copypasting someone else's work actually manage to kill the whole game?
why do they just not make something like Halo
they can't anymore because modern Bungie is an incompent corpse filled with newblood that is rotten to the core
i
Maybe they shouldn't have abandoned their core audience.. just a suggestion
I only need a letter: N
I liked Tsushima but I have no interest in GoY, honestly I keep forgetting that it's releasing this year. In my mind Death Stranding 2 is the only Playstation release coming up this year.
Even without it probably being woke as fuck, I'm just sick of Open World games that barely change up the formula. I doubt GoY is going to be a drastic departure from the bog standard open world formula.
The game was dead before. That just put an extra bullet in its skull
Black iron woman failing, acolyte failing, Concord failing, dustborn failing, everyone loves Ye's HH song. The world really is healing.
That was just one more problem added on top of the shit pile.
if bungie's biggest shill says it's over then it's actually over
Ghost of Yotei will do well, its up to the outcome of whether it really was woke or not if that will stymie long term sales and goodwill
if it isn't, they will outsell the first, and everything continues, if it is, it'll be hobbled long term and that's it for Suckerpunch, the doomspiral will begin.
did one lazy artist copypasting someone else's work actually manage to kill the whole game
no it was just the latest in lul for Marathon
people hate gameplay reveal
people play alpha test and immediately drop it after a day
arc raiders comes in and steals your spotlight and highlights how shit marathon is
now this latest controversy about stealing art, the one good thing people liked about the game
this has been a disaster since the reveal of the game
it was just another brick in the wall.
its entire style is very unlikable to general audiences and the gameplay looked drab.
Plagiarism makes you Super Hitler to the zoomoids.
What's up with this guy? He's like if some random guy that talks about games on twitter got played to post his blogs, it's so weird.
ONE WORD
Yeah I'm surprised he's even saying this. That faggot would bend over backwards for anyone but you know shits serious if he's done
It's definitely the latest "straw" that broke the camels back, but I think people's general lack of interest in this already over-saturated genre with no real polish or direction or aesthetic vision just finally soured the investors on it.
Did bungos check bounce?
it won’t be concord 2.0 (you are here)
it won’t lead to the dissolving of bungie
I'm still working on that.
he sweeps for free.
t won’t lead to the dissolving of bungie
destiny 2 believe it or not still makes a lot money
Hyenas was so weird, them making such absolute garbage for so much money just to pull the plug before release
I think SEGA and Creative Assembly realised that releasing it would do more bad than good because it would also damage the reputation of the companies, so they did the difficult thing and cancelled it before release
ehh... gameplay looks nothing special but I like the artstyle
also why did it have to be a first person extraction shooter, do western studios not know how to make anything else? always the same boring semi realistic gameplay
I could see a successor of GunZ/S4 League with this aesthetic succeed for example
extraction shooters aren't oversaturated, there's simply no good ones beyond Tarkov, and "good" in quotations.
if it isn't, they will outsell the first
Nope. Female protagonists lower sales and the game is explicitly a spin off. Everyone's really waiting for Ghost of Tsushima 2. Only die hards are committed to buying this before any reviews or reactions show the true quality.
as funny as it would be, no game can be concord 2.0. i mean less than one thousand players at launch. as bad as marathon looks, it still rides off of bungies coattails so at the minimum this will have more than 1000 players at launch. the numbers will be bad but not >1000 players bad.
Bungie was 3.7 billion, concord was 400 million, all their cancelled projects combined are probably over 1 billion, they continue to throw money at another bungie sub studio. All the money they just wasted probably would have been enough to run all their other first party studios including Japan studio for like 100 years. This is probably the biggest fuck up I've ever seen in the game industry.
I really hope the naughty dog trash is a bomb but you know full well they'll activate their marketing bots in game journalism, give it a high 90s metacritic score and the goty title which will be enough to convince the starved millenial bugmen that compose the modern playstation audience to buy it
THANK YOU GOD
its just a testament to the devastating effects of not having eyes on everyone and everything your funneling money and time and resources to.
they looked away from Hyena's for too long and when they looked back they were blown away, game was geniuinely raunchy as fuck and SEGA blew it to shit and threw everyone out the airlock.
the only right move, at that point.
They literally did mass layoffs after the last destiny 2 dlc sold millions
Sad. I wanted to fuck those plastic bimbo Wipeout robots, it's a different aesthetic that greebly metal like Warframe doesn't hit.
In a better reality, this game became the new Destiny and I'd have tons of art to peruse without playing the game.
Kill yourself contrarian
Sega was right, the brand damage wasn't worth it. Consider how much money Concord made, it was fucking nothing. The brand damage to Sony cost more money and they could write off a failed game as a tax expensive like the movie industry is currently doing. Coyote vs Acme was a movie that was finished but never released because the big wigs realized they could make more money by writing it off then by releasing it.
there is no Ghost of Tsushima 2, GoT was based off a real life event of Mongol's invading Tushima.
in real life, they slaughtered everyone easily and moved on to mainland Japan and got wrecked.
they did come back some years later and do EXACTLY the same thing, and slaughter everyone there again, and once again moved on to Japan but then got blown out by a Hurricane, however, there is 0% chance they will make a sequel where "Mongols Invade Tushima and a scrappy protag has to fight them off and save the day" because its the same fucking premise
Bungie has almost 1000 employees, I think they had over 1000 before the layoffs.
tax expensive
tax expense*
HALO FUCKED
...till halo 4 that is, then onwards Halo was getting fucked...
It's less about "reputation" and more just a raw numbers game. Finishin the game and launching would have costed more than what the projected flop would make back, so it was more cost efficient to just shut it down and eat up the loss.
I dont wanna quote luke stephens but when he interviewed some bungie devs the way they phrased was that a TON of the core mechanics, like basic match making and ranking systems, haven't even been designed yet and are still in the brainstorming process...in a game that is about to release 4 months. This shit is fucking dead no matter how you spin it.
Exactly. Marathon was an instant disaster long before this plagiarism shit even started. It was literally recieved by the majority as an ugly and boring game, even streamers that got early access to it and would benefit being positive (for future sponsors) wasn't impressed. It had the hallmark of "dead in the first 2 weeks" written all over it, but the plagiarism was obviously the nail in the coffin for the few that actually enjoyed the game because of the "art direction"
Live service games don't make money when they flop, they continue to drain resources every day they remain active. If you know you have a flop on hand you kill it immediately, every other decision is just bleeding money.
Sega was smart enough to see that before releasing, Sony isn't. The fact that fair games still hasn't been cancelled tells me Sony is either completely retarded or they are just so embarrassed by all the recent failures they can no longer cancel any more without heads rolling.
basicallly they restarted this project like 3-4 times, and what we are seeing is like a year of effort, and for Bungie that's like 2 months of effort because they do fuck all at the speed of a snail, and have since D1.
they desperately want no one to know this fact that this is the case, but it will come to light eventually, Sony will send their Auditors who do NOT fuck around like Investors and CEO faggots and they will find out all their secrets.
Why couldn't they just fill the game with enemies like the funny cape guys
cost*
Make shit product
Lose a lot of money out of your own stupidity.
The government pats your back and abssolves you off taxes
Why is this a thing?
because Art fags and design team wanted their Scene-girl/derlictique runway fashion shit.
This whole ordeal really feels like bungie fucking over Sony and hiding how much money they wasted from them. Marathon feels like some grift to keep Sony at bay till bungie leadership can escape the sinking ship
someone td;dr those 1600 words
People at Bungie have more or less stated this is the case.
Making a single player game with a narrative, big thoughtfully designed levels, cutscenes, and Enemy AI is WAY WAY WAY more work than throwing a handful of shitty maps together with microtransactions and loot.
Companies HATE selling a product once every 3 to 5 years and hoping it works, modern companies are built around "subscription" income over time. That's why every piece of software you used to own is now a subscription. That's why every game is built to buy once and then pay over time for DLC and micro transaction bullshit so these companies can show regular revenue over time instead of one big chunk of sales at launch.
For the games where it works, it makes money far beyond even the biggest hits of the past, so the suits are chasing the Fortnite / Call of Duty / Roboblox shit. In 2024 58% of ALL PC GAMING REVENUE CAME FROM MICROTRANSACTIONS.
Companies HATE selling a product once every 3 to 5 years and hoping it works, modern companies are built around "subscription" income over time. That's why every piece of software you used to own is now a subscription. That's why every game is built to buy once and then pay over time for DLC and micro transaction bullshit so these companies can show regular revenue over time instead of one big chunk of sales at launch.
Can we not go back to the 90 and early 2000 where we got new IP's every month?
You make it sound like hell.
derlictique
This word doesn't exist online outside your posts.
I am genuinely interested, what the hell does that mean
Even with d2 and mtx, I really really doubt bungie made back the 6 billion that sony paid for them. They're now down to 300 people so you gotta wonder were the money went.
My dick? Yes.
Halo 1/2/3 were pretty good but 3 made it clear the direction things were going and it wasn't going to be pretty.
Nothing (ever) happened, even.
That's kinda the problem. Marketing has been pretty abysmal and no one cares about the actual gameplay anyway.
Good
it feels like that, because it is like that.
Bungie had nothing, and has nothing to deliver, they have zero good ideas, all they had was hype and pre-existing good will and the idea of expertise.
they sold this flim-flame to Sony and now its time to finish the Con by vanishing into the night,
the Code Monkeys and middle managers will be abandoned and told to fuck off by Sony because all major companies take out all their frustrations on the powerless underlings and let the retards at the helm flee with Millions of dollars in hand.
It's one part of the whole mess but it illustrates the kind of problems the studio has really well:
Employees are lazy and incompetent
Directors are negligent, lazy and incompetent.
Take me back to the original Destiny leaks era...
I swear if they just prioritized big team battle they';d do well. Fuck esports. Fuck the weird moba shit H5 did.
Just let groups do massive battles, it was always the best part of the game.
Extraction/BR type shit is so fucking lame
yes, you can, its called Indie games, the AA ones at least.
Vampire Survivors is a chunky scrapped together product, but its fun, and the dev clearly enjoys what he's doing and the stuff he's putting into the game.
only people like that are worth buying games from going forward, Corpo-Slop will get worse and worse till its unedible to anyone.
This is basically corporate sabotage. People can make up any conspiracy theory they want but the writing is on the wall that Sony was duped and pushed into a corner to buy up these companies and these companies were one way or another mismanaged to hurt Sony.
Per Audacia Ad Astra
Anyways it was recently discovered that bungie lifted nearly the entire art direction from a twatter graphic designer who made a series of posters back in 2017. It wasn't even inspiration. They just straight copy-pasted dozens of this artists designs into their game.
Name of artist please? Or links to reporting about this?
its the Homeless Trash-bag style from Zoolander, remember?
1 was alright, but massively overhyped and the multiplayer balance was dogshit that I can't believe people still defend Magnum starts for it.
2 was broken as hell, but rushed to get it out before the X-box 180 died.
3 was decent but nothing amazing for the X-box 360, and then CoD4 ate it's lunch.
Everything since from Bungle has sucked shit.
that castlevania dlc for vampire survivors was pure soul. you can tell the dev really loves castlevania and was stoked to work on the project. most modern devs lack that level of passion outside of indie/aa titles.
If you ever got into Destiny, you'd realize Bungie are the laziest devs to ever exist. To such an extent is hard to even imagine. Stop giving them money, they are Star Citizen level of scam artists.
the greek messenger died immediately after reaching Athens to tell them the news of their victory at the battle of Marathon
Marathon dies immediately after coming out
how poetic
I want to play an extraction shooter cause every single one in the market right now sucks ass. Tarkov is riddled with cheaters and works like crap even on good systems, Hunt is bleeding people and it has like magic and bosses and shit, Arena Breakout Infinite is the chinkiest thing I've ever played and Dark And Darker is melee-focused.
The issue is that companies, fully knowing that, go and make a new shitty extraction shooter instead of making a good one lol.
Concord was an absolute embarrassment and coming out the same year as Marvel Rivals was just rubbing salt on the wound.
literally too hard for them, lol
ps4 era sony was all about movie games
all the sequels were used as propaganda platforms
concord happened
now marathon is happening
who is running sony into the ground?
Vampire Survivors is a great idea and addictive but it is as shallow as Flappy Birds.
That's probably because marketing has barelt any material to show because the devs did jack shit. There's like only 6 heroes, a lackluster amount of guns, boring enemies and 3 mapa with 1 bein some sort of super secret dungeon based on the marathon ship that they wont spoil but its obvious that they havent even started working on it.
It can definitely work like that again if we went back to more reasonable budgets and consumer expectations for graphics.
10 man teams making games with $5MM budgets and PS2 era graphics could easily churn out fantastic games every 1 to 2 years, and if they sold 300,000 copies at $40 = $12MM, after splits that's around $8MM. That's a 60% return on $5MM in 2 years--huge win!
So what is the second wave of shit that is Marathon's reboot?
he cared 500% more than Konami has about their own beloved franchise, its sort of sad in a way.
he put every nigga from the franchise he could, except that loser Gabriel Belmont/Shit Dracula from Lords of Shadow.
can we stop pretending like bungie was ever good now please
and the higher-ups will all get golden parachutes and switch seats to something else they can ruin
i wonder why video games are so shit nowadays
How can we become writers for forbes? Our shit posting has to be better than that article.
he's added more complexity as the game has come along
its. it is what it is, the dev made now, likely 60 million dollars off it and can afford to make more complex games moving forward.
he did start out, completely by himself initially so he was limited to what he could do.
the Castlevania DLC shows that he has real talent.
It's made by old DICE.se developers who did the Finals before it (despite announcing Arc Raiders first, baffingly). So if you played The Finals, you know what you're sort of getting. Just now Tarkov-flavored.
LOL
Their entire Western division needs to be purged. Jade Raymond leaving is probably part of that. Then find someone who actually knows what they are doing.
It was already dying inside, but there was a strong contingent of very naive defenders. The stolen art broke that contingent specifically, which really opened the floodgates for the conversation.
Why over? Just make better models and screw optics, sell it for latex clad young women fetish enjoyers.
Ask Grok.
Bungie hire this man!
Marathon will be given some time to fix--
Oh no, he's still delusional!
they would need 2 years of dev time for that, Bungie is that slow.
also Bungie is run by troons, leftoid S--oy boys and.. Allah forgive me for saying this.. Women.
they would never make hot characters ever.
Another Live Service game
Another old IP being brought back and completely changed
Ugly art style. Everything looks like the game glitched out and half of textures did not load.
The color pallet is fucked, half of the things have very dull n muted colors. the other half is vivid Spatoon Ink colors
Unpopular opinion: I liked the reveal trailer for Concord. Marvel-y or not, I liked the three main dudes talking about chili sauce and running through the streets having a shoot out and thought it was going to be some generic open world action adventure game in the same vein as Days Gone / Horizon / Tsushimsa, etc. I think it would have had an audience there. But the moment I found it was a hero shooter I didn't even bother to look at gameplay.
Because the shareholders and investors wished so, and most of the money come from em, not from the public.
So even if it's absolute fucking garbage no one will buy, but the investors pay for it, they will keep doing the shit.
Straw that broke the camel's back
Turns out were speed running studios as a dead service the entire time
Early Destiny, when the first raid came out, was good. There was no other game like that out there.
a renaming of Marathon to “ART Raiders.”
kek, amazing
It is a braindead fun game. But it lacks the complexity and well thought design of a real bullet hell. I enjoyed the Castlevania DLC but it's just mindless gameplay driven by the desire to unlock shit.
As another Anon said, Indie devs operate on the scope and budget of 90s/early 2000 games. AAA have increased in such scope and budget that they'll never be throwing out games like that anymore.
Plagiarism will make me flop.
Tassi does not think it will be Concord 2, but he also did not think Concord 1 was going to fail either, only when the tide became overwhelming did he decide to quit lying.
Overwatch started as "Project Titan' a futuristic space themed MMO from Blizzard but Blizzards scrapped it and then used all the assets to make Overwatch instead. That's what most of these studios making live service games right now should be doing, reuse all the assets(well except Marathon, lmao) and use them to make a completely different game.
Halo's story sucked but the multiplayer was pretty fun. Not good but fun.
The multiplayer in the first three games is god-tier splitscreen multiplayer.
It's some tranny that got stolen from. It's pretty fragrant plagiarism, this is like their fourth offense of stealing from randos.
uhh that is problematic sweaty
Hunt was fun but became way too fucking sweaty and filled with cheaters. Playing like rats for 40 minutes becomes old after a while.
halo 1-reach are good
marathon was good
I really dont like the "AAA" moniker as it really does not describe the core development conceit behind these products. I think its better to call them "corporate" games, rather than AAA.
viral marketting thread
nobody gives a flying fuck about this shit and bungie was already dead in spirit
better than marathon, but that's a low bar
will it be a success? only time will tell
Wonder if they miss being "the halo guys" now
and then CoD4 ate it's lunch.
That's because Halo 3's arena gameplay was a rare example of a console game that could sometimes actually play like an arena shooter. A good player was untouchable and bad players don't get to make it to a power weapon spawn once the whole match. I played a lot of ranked and many matches would end with one or two players carrying their team and one or two players who get like 3 kills. If you couldn't use the BR consistently, didn't have good grenade placement, and didn't know the maps your only hope was to play social playlists instead which is where a lot of the popularity of big team came from. CoD4 was much more appealing because you could literally one tap people with hitscan guns.
In short, skill issue.
Everybody who worked on the first 3 halo games is long gone retard
imagine how many ai girlfriends will be single after leaving chuds in the next 20 years
The very fact Jade's Cum Extraction Shooter hasn't been cancelled just shows that Sony is ALL IN on trying to make Extraction Shooters happen when they aren't Normie friendly and it's INSANE they haven't fired Jim Ryan or whoever the fuck is the CEO over this.
Concord I could somewhat understand: Halo, but discount Guardians' could've MAYBE worked if it wasn't Live Service slop and/or charging $70 for said Live Service slop, but it was too late for that market (Halo, but Hero shooter!).
Extraction shooters were over even when Tarkov was hot a decade ago. Now they're like 15 years late to that party.
I'd bet $50 that there are less than a dozen employees left at bungie that have even worked on a Halo game. And even less that worked on Halo CE.
fragrant plagiarism
is this what happens when you copy perfume?
fragrant
I'm hopeful it releases regardless because the real schadenfreude stems from watching all the clueless normies defending the game not realise what full loot pvp is actually like and I need to see them crashout when they are the gaming equivalent of Pangolins in anything PvP focused.
Some artist fucked up and was lazy and stole assets from another artist
It's getting cancelled which will be worse than concord.
I will continue to cover the game. If good things happen, I will write about that. If bad things keep happening, I will write about that. But I think it’s overwhelmingly bad things from here.
For an industry shill this is pretty brutal. But it's no less than Bungie deserves.
They should do less instead of more. Battle Royale started as half baked mods for Minecraft and ARMA. Then the big two hits were PUBG and Fortnite, both of which were scrapped together from very different games, largely using borrowed assets.
You cannot pull something like Apex Legends out of nowhere, and even then they were just the copying stuff from other games. Wasting so much money and work on shit like Hyenas and Marathon without having a fun game underneath is retarded.
The biggest hit so far is fucking Lethal Company, which is like a Unity game using low poly assets made by one furry who started making games on Roblox.
What does it mean by "one good old boy?"
I don't know anything about "tranny aesthetic," but everything is so saturated it's painful to look at
I thought they cared about us xisters...
who is running sony into the ground?
Check on the Concord lead artist.
There is no point in "leaving" your meat puppet.
If anything, you will get chuds doing political assassinations because AI renamon told em to.
FUCKING A WHITE MALE RUINED EVERYTHING
WE NEED MORE POC VOICES IN CONTROL OF EVERY COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!!
What does plagiarism smell like?
One of the more established members of Bungie who would have decision making authority. Possibly someone who was around since the Halo days.
To do that they would need to follow a development model similar to Valve, and the suits and wokies would hate that.
you must understand that he is a Doublethinker
the narrative is always in flux, and the new "now" was, for him and his ilk, always the truth, "we were always at ware with East Asia"
that wasn't a joke or an exaggeration in the book, that is how these people think, now Concord was "always going to fail" even when he said otherwise.
This. I wonder who paid him for this article.
Do companies cater to what the slopsumer wants?
Yes.
Pete Parsons the CEO
The fact the CEO is advertising his 1mill+ cars to the proles/employees should've had Sony sending in Pinkertons already. The fact they haven't just shows Sony is asleep at the wheel.
Also the fact that Sony killed the Last of Us 2's multiplayer despite that being like 60-80% done (and a complete asset reuse of the first games one) just shows how badly Sony is managing Bungie because BUNGIE was the one that recommended they cancel it because "We can't live service this!"
The Finals felt kinda aimless so I can see Arc Raiders beng an improvement.
How is mocking a game dying "shilling"?
Milk break! Have some yummy Mara milk, everyone, and have a wonderful day!
are we talking son of sam type killings or just targeted individuals?
Well, Sony has been fishing for a buyout so they can get executive decision making over Bungie and pretty much everyone, including Tassi, agrees that if Marathon fails a bunch of people will be fire and Sony will assume direct control of the studio. It certainly doesn't benefit Bungie to have negative coverage.
Jim Ryan already fired himself, he saw how bad he fucked it and ran for the door over a year ago. It's a mystery how Hermen hulst hasn't been fired.
Marathon is unironically one of the few games that would benefit from raytracing.
It clearly wants the Mirror's Edge clean lighting and exaggerated radiosity but the engine they're using just doesn't support it so you end up with these ugly ass grey shadows.
Forbes is first and foremost on the side of making money. The kind of crap coming from Bungie has all the signs of failure
oh your overshooting, there are none left, not a whit.
He was a white man
that's it really.
The thing they don't understand is that Fartshite is WEEKLY UPDATES so it has constant crunch/churn of employees working on shit to constantly update.
Call of Duty is THREE STUDIOS doing two years of development rotate release ONE of the three rotating titles a year.
Bungle can't do that. None of these studios can unless they're getting MASSIVELY bankrolled and able to have 800+ employees cranking out weekly/yearly updates.
for the price of 1 (ONE) Concord, Sony could have funded ~40 new ips from small teams
Thanks anon
What if the assets are garbage? You cannot fix Fairgames bland look.
Jason Jones is still there so there is at least one.
It's funny how everyone but Bungie seems to have seen this. I watched that livestream with the two Joes and Ziegler comes off as delusional. As if tweaks to ammo drops and HP are going to magically turn this game into a success less than 4 months before it releases. Cross seemed fully resigned to the game's failure and his termination.
Whatever the AI needs to "survive" or get bigger.
I don't think I will ever forget that livestream and the look of the art director (or whatever his position was)
Haunting
The industry is way overdue for a correction
for the price of one Skull and Bones, Ubisoft could have funded 40-70 games from their own employees
None of their cancelled games had assets worth using, least of all fairgames. I would actually argue that only marathon has an identity worth preserving but it's the identity presented in their promo trailers and not the actual game.
I would buy the shit out of a single player game with that aesthetic, not the latex roblox GAAS assets they transformed into.
It's a term that's just outlived its usefulness, because every developer adopted that scale of development. Compare the marketing spend of what it was coined for (MW2) to its contemporaries from the same year- say, Borderlands, Arkham Asylum, Resident Evil 5, Left 4 Dead 2, et cetera. Night and day.
Cross knows what he did and is a decent artist, he knows he fucked it, and can't unfuck it now.
that's really the biggest sin, he CAN do good art, but CHOSE to steal and do this ugly shit.
How would you re-use this asset? Hardmode, no weirdo BWC self insert fanfic smut.
That was pure humiliation ritual shit
he looked like he wanted to shoot himself
CA dodged a bullet with that. I think they bloated during covid and nearly had a civil war in the studio, what a strange pivot to fps they tried to make
He looks like he's having a panic attack reading the chat.
Somebody should have taken the laptop away from him.
Blue lips SEXO
In contact with an artist rn... should hopefully all come together soon...
but.. but that's
hmm
lmao this really is Concord 2.0
Why is he not wearing the pin then?
redo the makeup, push an apron on her and she's one of your coworkers in a food service minigame game
Note that success/failure ratios remain relatively similar regardless of sales model. Companies lean on service models because it amplifies the revenue generated by the fundamentally small number of successful titles. You can operate on leaner budgets to compensate, but when Square Enix tried it recently they rapidly abandoned the idea because the performance was proportional too.
TLOU gameplay mechanics are great for:
Search and Destroy
Battle Royale
Horde mode
Extraction
Co-on Raids
Team Deathmatch
But yeah let's scrape the whole thing and make Concord and Marathon instead.
I somehow feel bad for the guy because he almost certainly isn't the guy who directly stole the assets and he has somehow simultaneously done an outstanding job and fucking abysmal one. The game itself looks like reheated dog shit yet the trailers looked like the only exciting original sci-fi IP I've seen in decades. He was responsible for both and ultimately failed at the more important task. It's also not his fault the game itself looks boring as fuck.
BWWOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
Somewhere in the heaves
BWWAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM
They are waiting
they don't need to eat or breath yet this class has this giant fucking helmet with just their dick sucking lips pointlessly exposed.
they should have got Shinikawa to do the art.
he's the best in the industry at making stylistic machines that look both functional and cool and over the top at the same time.
then again, how could a Portlandia fuckup get a job if they did that?
Standing back and standing by.
o7
sovl
I love that brown and black were added to the Troon+Fag flag just to somehow wrap blacks and mexicans into this fucking Globo-homo army of darkness.
this is despite the fact most black guys would rather kill themselves than be around troons or w/e.
they don't need to eat or breath
That mouth is exclusively for cock, anon.
geeeeeeg
twitch chat is funny idc what anyone says
HEY GOYS I MEAN GUYS DONT PAY ATTENTION TO THE GAME BEING A DISASTER LOOK PORN!!
literally randy pitchford during battleborn's short life, very sad
sniiiiiif
oh, my dear, this is a powerful smell of...
plagiarism
Did you mean something like "blatant plagiarism"?
Anyways, absolutely hilarious how much the nuMarathon team sucks. What a dumb way to burn money, lel.
Flagrant pugilism
Fortnite started as a optional game mode made by a c-team at Epic, for a game that was already considered a failure. Then it suddenly turned into a huge hit, so that's when they put the big money into it.
Why I can't get a single good extraction shooter? I'm tired of playing Tarkov
Blue lip lady is cooler than that gay gundam, there's alot of ugly shit in marathon but there is also some high level aesthetics that work very well. Seeing all these lame nerds with basic bitch taste acting like they know better is nauseating. Stick to genshit impact waifus and transformers toys.
the most hilarious thing is that Shinkawa has mastered the art of "technobabble shit scrip on mechs and cyborgs"
and makes the faggots at Bungie look like mongoloids in comparison.
this is what they wanted their game to look like, BTW, like a bunch of Techno-industrial shit with all its serial info slapped on it, except, Shinikawa makes it look AMAZIN
IMAGINE if Marathon's Androids looked like THIS shit.
let a man cook
Pics?
Great, now my armored core brainrot + this post makes me want a mech extraction shooter but instead of random bits and shit, you get materials to craft/find weapons and parts to upgrade your mech
God damnit
It'll prob be a while but hopefully SOON
I dont give a shit about the game, tarkov is better. If the game was singleplayer / you could play solo MAYBE I'd give it a chance. But no. Im not spending a dime on this shit. What I will do however is commission the girls worshiping man-meat until that's all they're known for
It totally worked for Veilguard.
Imagine making your 2025 game looking worse than your 2007 game.
go the resident evil 6 route and make her an enemy
It's not added for "all blacks", its specifically BLM.
BLM bullied the LGBTQ+ alpha turbo to add black and brown to their flags with shit like blocking their parades and all that.
It's the "arrow of who's actually in charge" over the rainbow.
Not only that, but Bungie is also the reason why the multiplayer of Last of Us 2 was scrapped, since no one knew how to monetize it
The irony is that more people would've played Factions than Marathon
As always, it's white men fault.
The Pride flag simply represents everyone who can't produce white offsprings, that's why they promoting them.
What happens to the weird bio-synthesis caterpillars?
Because the game doesn't seem to match it.
Extraction shooters are fucking gay.
They should have went balls deep in past fads and tossed in rouge-like, survival craft, with escort missions (possibly underwater).
I know what he did is a massive professional failing on his part, but I also think it was extremely irresponsible to put him on a live stream to get slaughtered so soon after what happened came to light. The man is clearly extremely uncomfortable, shameful, regretful and embarrassed by what happened and probably hasn't slept in days since this the plagiarism came to light.
I mean your wrong, everyone knows your wrong, Shinikawa is the GOAT
They said in the livestream that they had a new trailer ready to go but had to delay it to make sure that there wasn't any more stolen art content present. I'm not kidding.
Bungie suffering makes me happy.
anon, an AC extraction game is too cool an idea for these fags to ever do.
Nah
They should have hired Nihei instead
His designs would fit their corpo hell
We could even have Toha heavy industry as a faction
Niggas be gay but probably find that whole flag shit gay as fuck.
Had a chance to make a Marathon game that looks like the concept art
Make ugly vomit educing extraction slop instead
Good I hope Bungie crashes and burns.
I think this is why a lot of games flop nowadays. Technically 2020s games are higher fidelity than this, but old games are still more appealing. So they dump hundreds of millions into something that looks worse than indie games. It's just a gigantic waste of money.
I also think it was extremely irresponsible to put him on a live stream
It is totally irresponsible of the company leadership.
Still sad the ukrainian or the one with muslim words variations didn't get enough momentum to keep making the flag more hilarious.
I mean if he's the sole higher-up who forced it to happen, it kinda is.
You reap what you sow
newfag cancer won
i'm butthurt we get slop when we could've gotten a kino marathon remake
Zone of the Enders 3 is my dream game.
Shinkawa is cool but that gundam you posted is not. Shinkawas cooler stuff actually reminds me of some marathon shit, they are both obsessed with this weird skin tight biological sci-fi aesthetic.
That fanart does show the underlying problem with Marathon's artstyle. Most Miku fanart is clean and sleek, meanwhile that's full of random colorful blobs.
i actually liked the art design as shown in the trailers....
i would have bought a proper single player game with that style and made by people who did marathon/halo
What does it mean by "one good old boy?"
Some one in leadership who has been there a long time. Usually a loud annoying prick. He relentlessly shilled his extraction idea.
I actually just worked in a company where someone did the exact same thing. Of course extraction failed.
They could’ve given us a campaign but no
He probably has 30-50 artists working underneath him. It's hard to know for sure if something is stolen. I don't put any blame on him personally.
Yeah. the Cinematic was cool and all but this was better off as another "love death and robots" episode than trying to release such a corporate shitshow
No, they wanted it to look like alexander calum watt's work, not this low grade weeb shit cyber soldier.
a mech extraction shooter
This exists. It's called Synduality. It unfortunately isn't good.
no shit faggot, except Shinikawa is good at it, they should have hired him, HENCE my point.
I actually truly believe even if it goes F2P, it will still be a flop.
Synduality already came out btw.
Does the Hispanic guy not know how much his game sucks or is he that delusional? He seemed like really relaxed in the stream while the normal reaction would have been to constantly shitting his pants or something similar. This will make the show on the chopping block that much more entertaining, so I'm not complaining.
now read the chat log of everyone shitting on you, and don't you say one fucking word about it
what a fucking shitshow.
put an apron on her
I specifically said no weird BWC shit
nah Jehuty is great
I bet they couldn't monetize it since Druckmann would have vetoed anyone trying to add attractive women into the game.
Why? I am not willing to read it. Somebody sum it up
he's going to take his huge payout and go fuck up some other studio.
its the Artist that will be blackballed forever for being a legal liability.
what does he give a fuck.
Livestream post-controversy
Q&A
pain
He is lead director. Has to be toxically positive at all times in front of groups and your worst fucking nightmare 1on 1.
I don't think you know what shilling is.
that faggot is a former valorant dev, he doesn't give a shit
He wouldn't fit you insufferable weeb. They wanted ghost in the shell, not raiden super soldiers and gundam mechs.
It's shit and another better extraction shooter is coming out at the same time.
You forgetting that he himself was one of the few people at Bungie directly following the artist?
goddammit I BLEW it
mech extraction shooter but instead of random bits and shit, you get materials to craft/find weapons and parts to upgrade your mech
God I wish that existed, I want to loot and replace my legs with treads, then one arm with inbuilt canons that stops me from using two handed rifles
lol looks like he's 120 soaking wet, he could be my "worst nightmare" right up until I fold him 9 times perfectly.
Yeah and it's a fucking shame....
Fair assessment, im just a sucker for corpo-looking sluts. Like if a nascar car was a woman.
Huh, never heard about this but granted I rarely move outside of my gaming bubble
He made the mistake of not posting Chadnubis.
Gundam is way cooler than this punk toothpaste ad cubix bullshit.
I actually feel sorry for him. He wasn't the one who stole shit nor directed anyone else to. He was forced to trust some Indians to actually behave and do their job correctly.
Well that's the core problem, isn't it? There are so many developers he can't even name half the people he personally manages. You can't pay 300 developers, plus hundreds of support staff, outsource, QA, etc, to make a $40 video game, and have that make sense. Something somewhere has to give, with Marathon it seems to be everything at once. Stolen assets, bad game design getting forced through, no campaign, layoffs before development is even done. It's a fucking shooting game, not the Manhattan Project. This shit isn't sustainable.
I'm not talking about jehuty, I'm talking about the gay gundam he posted.
why NOT THAT THEN
running through maps as Raiden and Grey Fox cyborgs killing each other with nano-wire and highfrequency swords and plasma rail cannons sounds way fucking cooler than this shit.
I don't personally blame the guy too much. I know how tough the art department has to crunch in our company. Those guys get burned at both ends and the lead has to somehow keep the impossible deadlines while being paid peanuts.
Doubt it was much different there.
Yes Sony, buy us for 3.6 Billion
No Naughty Dog, don't finish TLOU Factions, you guys cant handle live service
Yes our friends at Firewalk are ex-Bungie, they can make a great fresh IP for you Sony
Don't worry Marathon will be fine
If we include Concord as partly Bungie's fault, as I truely believe there is no fucking way Sony would of put money down on that if Bungie wasn't in their ear, is losing over 4 billion dollars one of the worst fucking investments ever?
Game started as a Tarkov clone because one of the old guard thought it would be “cool”
Leadership had no idea what they were doing, kept shifting direction
Team morale in the gutter, devs basically soft-cancelled the game from inside
Art director caught using plagiarized assets, got dragged into a “please clap” PR stream
No gameplay, no hype, just corporate vibes and a dead Discord
Paul Tassi (yeah, I know) basically called it: game’s cooked
Still technically “in development” but you can smell the rotting corpse from 4 months away.
I didn't know that and that makes it really bad.
they are so proud of "slutty E-Scene girl with X on her lips" design, aren't they.
not possible, you're not even allow to assemble a team of dudebros to make a game they want to play anymore.
part of the reason halo 2 was so much fun was because the devs would couch coop the shit out of it while they were developing it and see what is fun and what isn't.
now days it's all just filling out checkboxes that some suit says you have to include in the game because it will make the shareholders who don't care about games happy.
take me back please take me back
unpaint me, unpaint me, I don't want this present life
youtube.com
I never knew it was never going to be better than this, and I'm truly destroyed by it.
You don't move up in American corp unless you fake an obnoxious positive can do mask 100% of the time. The most incompetent people I have ever worked with have been Americans who refuse to drop the facade even when they haven't got a clue what they are talking about.
"slutty E-Scene girl with X on her lips" design
To be fair, it does hit certain buttons directly.
Did you see their pre Closed Alpha company event? It was weird, someone higher up REALLY likes Glitch and the workers know it because they all cheered extra hard when she came up.
If bungie used this one, it would be more or less a return to form
And let's not forget
The was fully playable for the public and it wasn't fun to play
He probably was on drugs.
The better question is:
Why not make something completely different?
Bungie's early years had shooters, RTS games, third person action games, fantasy games.
They left Microsoft because they were tired of making sci-fi shooters only to make another sci-fi shooter.
What is wrong with this company?
KILL ALL MANAGEMENT!
Just kidding. (this is a joke, retarded internet officer)
Joke aside, why do they hire these shitters that don't give a fuck about their fucking project? Just imagine dying tomorrow and your legacy is the monumental failure (both in vision and execution) of nuMarathon. No amount of money will be enough to make up for this.
man, UC gundam is cool as fuck
I still have no idea what an "extraction shooter" is and I have no desire to ever play one because it sounds like an incredibly gay genre filled with modern cancer and autistic trannies.
I think everyone at Bungie deserves all the bad things that happen to them in life.
The trailer shit looks like exactly what you would want from a gits inspired sci-fi game, they already nailed the aesthetic and they fucked it up for some reason, they don't need shinkawas Egyptian weebshit to save it, they just need to implement what they already figured out
ghost in the shell
Bruh what do you think GitS looks like?
yea but they are sexless about it, a design with clear sex appeal in mind, but no sex appeal applied.
sterile in action.
they already nailed the aesthetic and they fucked it up for some reason
The gameplay looks like an unfinished amateur fan project based on the trailer.
maratroon xisters ... what dei slopflop do we latch on to next?
Worst nightmare as far as having say over wether or not you are employed
For me, it's highly erotic smooth plastic crotch
GTFO is a lot of fun if you have friends dedicated to it
Just kidding
Nigga this is Anon Babble, people wish death on others every other second here.
I don't know why companies do this, play catch-up on things they already missed. Especially when games take fucking forever to make now.
Remember, games we're seeing now started development 5-10 years ago. That new Naughty Dog game is trying to rip off Guardians of the Galaxy, that's how fucking old the concept is. Marathon was supposed to be made for the Tarkov audience, but Tarkov is like 10 years old. execs saw the player count spike in 2020 when during government lockdowns, their eyes popped out of their skull like cartoon characters, and they threw billions into a furnace.
they look like they are 3 pack a day smokers with how slow they are, not superhuman cyborgs, GITS or Greyfox whichever.
if the Stealthguy was literally just Greyfox with super nano-sword and all, everyone would have cheered imediately, instead its of a dude doing the Zoolander face, perpetually.
We live in a post-conformant society. Shilling is done by ironic mocking to attract contrarians.
Posts an anime project that doesn't even exist yet
We're talking mamoru oshii gits not the lame porn addict style from the mangaka.
Is Fairgame$ still alive?
There's also Fable.
Yeah probably. Minecraft was bought for 2 billy. Sony paid double for less than nothing.
Microsoft was right about Bungie. They've burned every publisher they've worked with at this point
Is Fairgame$ still alive?
Who cares, Jade left.
Bungie has been bleeding since Halo 2's infamous crunch and they never truly recovered from that mess or shook off their bad habits. Destiny 1's 2013 reboot and staff exodus until 2015 was the next wound, followed by Destiny 2 million cuts adding up over time culminating in Lightfall and it's subsequent lay offs. I genuinely believe Bungie will close down in the next 5 years, Marathon is flopping, Destiny 2 they spend more money then they earn and the new players into the game are not replacing the old fast enough if at all. I might genuinely be over.
Sony paid double for less than nothing.
Fairgame$
They recently had their first external playtest, and it apparently went so well that the studio founder quit 2 weeks later.
it's not released yet, sony can pick between aborting it and saving face or getting another round of concord
What the fuck is Marathon
we have like 30 extraction shooters and 100 extraction gamers
only 3 extraction shooters got popular and a few dozen of extraction gamers
this is what the industry is trying to follow
This means that the AAA industry is completely lost? In the 2010 was the "FPS online games", end of 2010 was the "Battle Royales" and now we are in this "Extraction/Hero shooter" fever.
Oh, that might explain why my "direct" approach (pointing out issues + fixes, etc) didn't go well with that one American team I was working for as an external consultant (kind of). That kind of fake positivity is so fucking shit to get things done / fixed. I'm more of a table-flipping guy when I get confronted with constant incompetence (not good either, I know) but at least people know that my face doesn't lie and I'm actually happy when I seem happy.
It's the funniest thing I've ever seen
Imagine paying 3 billion dollars for bungie
Who cares, Jade left.
Fairgame$ got shot, but we can still see it bleeding out.
had their first external playtest
Interesting, I didn't know that.
i did nothing
$3,700,000,000.00
How do you think Sony feels about their purchase of Bungie? Destiny 2 is about to lose a lawsuit due to utter incompetence. Marathon has been stuck in dev hell with every playtest resulting in negative feedback and now the possible art theft on top of it all. They have to be shitting their pants behind the scenes right?
Eot
I meant flagrant but I'm autistic and retarded and I got picked up by my foot and shaken until my lunch money came out
Sony spending that on marathon and confused why we won't pay anything to play it
2.5 billy is worth 3.2 billy today
MS bought Minecraft, a game that is Tetris tier in evergreen status, for still less than Sony paid Bungie for without owning ANY of their IP
I am in genuine awe of the lawyers at Bungie, those guys are insane for pulling off a scam like this.
That's because the execs and managers take ages to notice trends, because they (and even most devs in these companies) don't actually have any interest in the kind of product they make.
So the first time they even notice something is a trend is if it keeps appearing in competing products at conventions for MULTIPLE years in succession.
Then they think about doing a similar product.
But then it's too late.
I work in the gambling industry and this is how it is for us: none of us care about the product or know anyone personally who does, so how should we know what people like and why? We throw shit at the wall and look what other companies do. I reckon it's the same here.
its amazing no game has ever come close to the sheer perfection of implementation of a Super-Mecha game ever again.
we get plenty of good Regular Mech games like AC but ZOE2 is the very last and only Super-Mecha game to exist, its baffling really.
watching this trailer and seeing the spin slams, the blade clashes, the teleporting behind enemies...
It really makes me sad that this was the very last time anyone tried this.
Nigga, I know but some of the jannies trade IP addresses and other fingerprinting data with their secret discord clubs to gang-stalk anons.
They be so mean to us chuds!
Minecraft actually is a huge moneymaker for Microsoft.
Unlike anything bungie is making now.
+200 million for Concord
4 billion for nothing.
Uhh what the sigma
A part of me wants to believe that this was a "what do you mean they don't own Donkey Kong?" moment and they thought that they still owned Halo
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sony resorts to extra legal methods to punish whoever was responsible for this.
IT’S OVER
NTA, but your taste is clinically shit.
Doom clone but not for doom nerds with stolen assets
yeah you guys should totally cancel factions. no, it definitely isn't because we're worried you're going to overshadow our shit projects.
The only people who still gave a shit about this game were retards attracted to the hideous artstyle
People who focus on art tend to be really sensitive to plagiarism
autistic
retarded
Brother, we all are and we're just joshing ya. Thanks for the keks tho, I needed that.
They were right to cancel it though. It'd be yet another shitty live service nobody plays, chasing another dated trend (the Walking Dead and popularity of zombie media)
problem is they had no self-awareness and didn't realize their entire company was the same thing
Ghost in the shell is my all time favorite and I cringe when onions artists name drop it.
Eastern Europeans are the polar opposite of Americans, there is absolutely no bullshit but it's so extreme they piss everyone off. You can see the results though, bluster and fake positivity run into far more issues than brutal honesty. Western Europeans and the British have a better balance of the two extreme attitudes to confronting problems, I found they do it in a realistic but polite manner.
Faggot
NTA but everyone is highlighting Factions because people wanted to play it, it was Sony's only live service offering people had some level of interest in and was almost finished. No one wanted Concord, Marathon is a mess, but it's just funny they survived but Factions was cancelled.
Sorry I'm not a 45 year old boomer who jerks off to bubblegum crisis, that shit is lame and masamune shirow is a terrible artist.
I distinctly remember the first time I was in a situation where I had to balance the two, not knowing which one my boss is leaning towards. Spooky shit.
In the end I told him our product sucks and he agreed. Glad I'm not American.
kill yourself, now.
it's a wizard of oz moment, people would buy into the game believing that they're supporting an art project that a company is putting out, but then it turns out that the art itself is stolen and the company only cares about fleecing you for money, people saw the man behind the curtain and can't pretend that it's a wizard anymore
This is also why it's important to understand when a style only looks kinda cool when it's in strictly controlled environments. There's loads of things that you can pull off in advertising and then it's total fucking clownshoes when you've gotta actually run around in it.
You're a moron and lame, eat some tide pods like the rest of Gen Z and end it.
honestly I am legit sad about this.
I am not a bungie fan but I am sure the team wanted to work on something cool before some higher ups decided for them what the game should be about.
Minecraft paid itself, Sony bought bungo in hopes of having many MTX shooters as possible to rake big bux thanks to destiny already existing playerbase.
It was a stupid ass plan from start.
For comparison, Nintendo avoid buying companies much as possible and any sort of purchase is because they already have hands on whole crap or for middleware. They hire individuals instead, which is far cheaper and easier to tard wrangle.
Why? Does your penis not work or something?
They took the name "Marathon" and started making some generic multiplayer slop like everyone does with FPS games these days.
The ONLY thing people seemed to be interested in was the art design... and it was literally copy-pasted into the game in bulk without permission and poorly trying to mask who created it.
Now everyone has turned on the game because being so lazy and deceptive and low-effort in an era of $80 games is not possible. Nobody has the money and time to throw away with games on a whim anymore.
meanwhile when the game has a good android look
I almost didnt see your reply because I word-filter chud.
The gits films are just cooler than the original manga, deal with it. Even SAC is cooler because it diverges from the goofy late 80s weebshit style.
Bazz would've found mild unironic success as a side character in a more down-to-earth space opera.
Last of Us but MP would sell. Why do you think Sony keeps remastering that series ten times over? It still sells. And the MP was well-received.
0080 is peak
You reek of 10 bux ex Goon. Why don't you join Lowtax already faggot
It's means vs. ends focus. If you're focused on the ends, how things turn out, the final product, then you're fine flipping the table because you just want the product to be better.
If you're focused on the means, the process of making things and the way a team runs, then you have to avoid table-flipping or else you have a team of hundreds of table-flippers and nothing ever gets done.
The former process works well in small, high-productivity groups producing concrete goods. The latter process works better for the American economy, which is a colossus of very-low-productivity service and management jobs, working together in huge bloated teams with towering hierarchies. It seems inefficient, but if everyone dropped the masks these teams would utterly collapse in dysfunction and the end products would actually become worse.
Have you seen shirows porn? It is in fact bad enough to make your dick malfunction.
it was fucking nothing.
It made negative money because they had refund everybody and refunding isn't free.
NOOO BUT DORITOS LINKIN PARK AND NEWGROUNDS! MY MEMORIES WOULD NOT LIE TO ME!
That would be amazing and would never happen because these people are retards
Sorry, I don't understand your terminally online internet gossip.
based, best OVA side story
Yeah and it's fucking HOT
My brother....
Newfag and zoomer
Grim
I don't think people who say that they like the arstyle have seen the actual game. They are just talking about the trailer.
Its not just that Bungie stole art from a guy, it's that the guy stole art from other copyrighted works.
It's stolen from a thief.
Fucking hilarious
Of all the artstyles that would be trivially easy to redo manually
They're not even overworked, the game is totally barebones assetwise. I might understand if they were making multiple games at once or a really asset dense game but holy shit.
Because it financially destroys someone, think about how studios want you to think about pirating. Every time the art is used without due payment, that's essentially stolen funds from the artist who could have gotten it. For all that antireal contributed to the game, he got no compensation, when a deal like that would've been incredibly lucrative.
The fact that the game was this far into development and it's obvious that the art direction team was doing it directly, it makes the whole studio compliant and guilty by association.
There's also the fact that because it's a poor artist vs a studio, there would have been nothing the former could have done if the news didn't catch on.
ban this faggot.
WTF
Yep, everything you said is true and exactly how everyone is responding to it.
If they were SO LAZY that they couldn't simply recreate this type of art or something in a similar style, then there's no chance the game will ever be worth it.
aaaaand I'm out.
No, you didn't troll me by spamming that. I'm just leaving you to hang yourself all because you got mad at someone.
I think every good boss will appreciate the "sometimes annoying but straight shooting" employee that actually cares about the quality of the work / efficiency of internal processes. They shouldn't blurt out their mind all the time, sure, but an employee that just "plays it save / bury their heads in sand" might be "nice" in the short run but will only make things harder to fix in the long run.
One thing is for sure tho. Being a straight shooter requires that one doesn't prioritize the "making friends" part of work. Making friends is nice and all but being friends with fake shitters is so not worth it. It's kind of funny that the adversarial people helped me much more to improve myself than the "nice" people that don't really give a fuck.
Then why is the PS1 game better than them?
live service game
into the trash it goes
Like I said, I'm not a 45 year old boomer, I'm a millennial who grew up in the only age of Japanese media that wasn't jerking off to little girls and porn. Anime was moe shit before the 90s and is moe shit after the late 00s. You're just a lame old man defending the ancient era of moeshit.
Still doesn't mean much. It's common for artists to follow other artists and this is probably what started the 'hey guys, I like this style. Save some of the guy's work for reference in our game' event. That some other artist later knowingly or unknowingly just took those reference files and put them in the game is a different issue.
Anything given to Bungie post 2015 was doomed to be wokeshit, anon. It didn't matter what the idea or game concept was.
A few decals and logos is not 'the entire artstyle.' If it was something like this artist also did a bunch of 'hey, here's some sci fi colonies I designed and laid out' art and it was 1:1 to what the maps looked like in Marathon, sure, the style was lifted wholesale, but that isn't what happened. Although it would've been much funnier if that actually happened
I'll play it only if the artist they ripped off was a tranny faggot, don't care if the character models are clownshoes retarded.
They could have even edited the assets so they could claim plausible deniability even if the artist did accuse them of stealing, jeets are so lazy they couldn't do that much
Revengance is one of the ugliest videogames I have ever played.
3.5 BILLION DOLLARS COMPANY
I think snoys will get another price hike LEMAO
A few decals and logos is not 'the entire artstyle.
They literally copypasted his art into the game... it's not simply similar or a rip-off.
They took and used artwork someone else made without asking them or paying them for a product they were going to sell for profit, which is illegal.
I think you're missing anon's point. The art style is how the game looks as a whole. A few decals aren't the art style they're just part of it.
you certainly did
Coyote vs Acme
still mad about that one because the premise sounded really interesting
but who knows, maybe the film really was an abject piece of crap
Someone well entrenched in the company for years. Basically, any of the CEOs or upper management around since the Halo days.
I have never played a halo game, here are the games I remember playing
tiberian sun (pirated)
dune 2000 (pirated)
red alert 2 (pirated)
c&c generals (pirated, I liked the fat chinese guy with the gatling gun infantry)
commandos (pirated)
rome total war (pirated)
call of duty 2 (pirated)
quake 3 (pirated)
gta san andreas (pirated)
counter strike 1.6 (pirated)
jedy academy (pirated)
warcraft 3 (bought it)
diablo 2 (bought it)
world of warcraft (pirated)
league of legends (free)
atelier sophie, firis, suelle (bought them)
vampire survivors (bought it)
I kinda stopped playing games after that, recently I've been just playing genshin and star rail aside from pirating porn games
?????? Look at all the textures and details and decals, it's the same style as the artist they stole from. And so far they appear to have only taken from him in bulk and nobody else, meaning they probably literally saw this guy's art and then immediately copypasted into the game only to forget they stole all the artwork when the trailer was released.
OOPS
kek it keeps getting worse
Someone bought the rights recently so it's going to be released.
I can't look at his art the same knowing he's a blackedfag. Shirow's dead to me.
anon you are a gachafaggot
We've known this for years, the CEO or whoever the fuck that was drove people out to look at his millions of dollars in car collection and fired the person 2 days later in a big layoff of staff.
was literally just shoving their nose in his wealth, knowing he was about to axe that person along with others, for pure sadism.
I remember recently reading a statement from snoy 1st party insider how studios pitch games themselves which then get greenlit by the upper management so this flop is entirely on bungie, sony didn't force them to go this route, same with naughty dog and god of war service slops which flopped before even getting a release date. imagine the level of incompetence in these studios.
That visual style isn't unique to that artist.
the only good games are gacha games nowadays
The ART DIRECTOR and other bungie employees follow the artist they ripped off and they had thr audacity of naming the style "graphic realism" as if they came up with it when even the artist took it from somewhere else
Jesus. This would actually explain how they managed to burn that kind of money while having something akin to a "first draft" tech-demo to show for it.
And yeah, I'm in the hardware business in a start-up sized company and the few times I had to work with bloated, slow, mostly incompetent (and also most uncaring about working efficiently) external industrial designer team was so fucking infuriating to me that I ranted the shit out of some threads here on 4chin to let off some steam. Some of these fuckers needed like 10 revisions to make a cap for a power switch that actually works AND can be installed without damaging anything, just because they were too much of Princess-engineers that only do MCAD and are too good to actually printing out prototypes that testing in hardware (which they could have easily done since they had everything available locally). And they had the fucking gall to lie to my face when I told them how to fix their shit designs.
Best story was that two days before their due-date for delivering their 3D-concept art they told us that "they had a fire at the company that builds their models and everything tangible is just gone". Like WHAT?!? So these fuckers pocketed 10k for delivering something and then go: uups, yeah, so, my dog ate my homework... and they didn't get fired for this kind of shit? Nepo-babies, man, I hate them so much. (yes, I'm jelly).
The specific subtype of retarded redditor that wants you to leave the multimillion dollar corporation alone happens to also be the subtype of person who really seethes hard over art theft.
Many shills 180'd over this.
Anime was moe shit before the 90s and is moe shit after the late 00s.
luhmao
You really don't know shit about anime, don't you.
The trailer shit looks like exactly what you would want from a gits inspired sci-fi game
Rumao this nigger can't be serious.
I don't approve of plagiarism but people get really fucking nutty over it, especially artists (who are often the sort that are drawn to weird art direction in games.)
r/marathon is coping
Kill yourself.
I mean if you were an artist making $20k a year and some multibillion dollar company just ripped your shit off and threw it in their game then you'd be pissed too
especially when they didn't just rip your shit but made derivatives of it
is he? I thought he was into greasy (literal) horsecocks
They'll likely do Destiny 3 next because they know people kind of like that.
The trailer is just a bunch of colorblind hipsterborgs being tactically retarded and muh music how poignant
they should be lootextracting a thrift store
I'm gonna diagram it out for you:
Bungie discovers artist
Bungie wants to use that art style for their game
devs put in the artist's work, planning to create original art to replace everything eventually
they have to get together a trailer
they've all long forgotten the source of all these textures and artwork and assume they created it all at some point
they put together and release the trailer full of stolen artwork
His art became their artstyle, and then they never bothered to replace it all with original art of the same style.
Both I'm pretty sure
people get really nutty over billion dollar corpos stealing art from a normal person trying to make a living
no fucking shit because it's absolutely infuriating. It's infuriating to make anything and have someone else say "actually I made that" but if you've never actually made anything yourself you'll have a way harder time understanding. Literally just imagine doing something for fun, hoping to get attention for it and maybe some money, then finding out someone else has been claiming it as their own and making bank on it while you're living month to month.
I think you are looking at investor trends rather than looking into what's actually popular at any given give. Overwatch was in 2015, Apex in 2019, Tarkov isn't out out early access. There is not a single trend but a bunch of people getting lucky at different times.
Your error is that they didn't use just a single artist though.
It's inspiration from multiple sources.
kek, you people are exactly who I'm talking about
chill out
tfw you have so many employees everyone forgets to do their job because they can always shift responsibility to someone else
get caught doing this
blame an ex-employee
It's like poetry... it rhymes
Halo infinite exists and nobody plays it
Back in the day people thought that Microsoft was overpaying for Minecraft. And to their credit they did managed to keep the franchise alive.
Grow up and make something.
You can say whatever you feel like, but we have the evidence showing us they stole art from a single artist and they used this stolen artwork to declare a new art style.
Positively rabid, calm down
I'm not freaking out. I'm just explaining why people get pissed about it. It's everyone going NBD allows companies to get away with it.
Not rabid enough.
But what about the latinxaeos?
Our culture is beyond parody
I mean the characters are definitely not ripped from that artist considering they didn't do any character drawings.
So clearly there is more than one source of inspiration.
Imagine if you discovered that something you created and made no money from was being used to enrich corporations without even so much as asking you for permission.
Imagine being such a cucked faggot that you aren't furious over that and demanding compensation.
Latinx its a term that most of the Latino population don't identify.
proofread your shit holy fuck
M8, what was stolen were some decals. Decals are part of an overall style but aren't the style itself. It'd be like saying a cartoon ripped off the entire Disney style if there was a single Mickey Mouse-looking glove that got ripped off.
And art style like something in Marathon is a comprehensive design encompassing fashion/weapons/architecture/industrial and, yes, some logos. I don't know why this is such a difficult thing to understand.
It was one of the few good live service ideas they had alongside Helldivers. I am pretty sure Bungie purposefully sabotaged it, then Cuckmann killed it so they didn't fucked up with his movie-game vision.
imagine, if you will, going a step further and trying to tell people it's not a big deal on mongolian basket weaving forums
Anyway like I was saying some people just go apeshit over plagiarism. Doesn't matter if its a random jeet doing it or a massive corporation. I had to dump a girl once because she wouldn't stfu about some thirdie who stole her art. And of course we've all seen the self-immolation ritual surrounding AI art theft.
So yeah it's not surprising that this is what finally ruined this retarded project in the court of public opinion and not the numerous prior missteps.
If we enter the 'nothing to lose' phase when current and past Bungie devs see the ship going down and don't care about risking their NDAs, the chance of a scathing hit piece from that faggot Schrier gets larger and larger.
TLOU's MP had some decent ideas that, if expanded on, coulda been pretty neat. I don't know if I would play some live service abomination of it but I could see a fun game from it.
people go apeshit over plagiarism
bet you'd flip your shit if someone stole your car too
Graphic realism is the term for mielgos ripped style you moron. Why the fuck would they be calling graphic design realistic?
TLOU2 has such a great movement system with the going prone, parkour and swimming. It would absolutely make a great multiplayer game with PVE elements. The Druck fucked up cancelling it.
The films are more serious but they still take a lot of shit from the manga and even increase the fan service in some parts.
The decals just happened to match the color choices and aesthetics of everything else in the game?
Then why steal the decals at all if they are so inconsequential to the look of the game?
This, whoever had the idea for this game is a massive retard and the ones who pushed it forward are even worse.
I'd file a police report and perhaps frown but I wouldn't start gnashing my teeth and having public tantrums while bitching at other people for not being angry enough about car theft. Guess I'm weird!
Holy SOVL
That's platinum-grade copium if anyone there sincerely believes a pivot of anything (except to cancellation) is possible within three months. (I don't count the 4th month because they'll need time to submit the game for testing or ratings or whatever.)
The decals and posters that got ripped off were saved as reference materials because they were the type of look Bungie already had in mind for the game. The game's entire aesthetic didn't come from this one no-name artist on Twitter making posters in 2017. There's simply not enough material to rip off if you're suggesting that was the case.
I hardly have a stake in gaming anymore. Just enjoy me some factorio and old dnd ripoffs. But this... THIS is funny as fuck and I hope each and every developer involved has their life ruined over the impending layoffs. Dishonesty and theft cannot be tolerated in this world that is to come soon. The truth will out. And every lying scummy jeet, kike, tranny, and all of their enablers will soon perish in accordance with the severity of their crimes against nature and humanity.
i could see it working as a l4d/darktide kinda game
I know enough to feel the moeshitter stench on you.
Yeah, you're a little weird if you think "oh well people just steal cars, guess I'll get another one, who cares if they catch the guy. Car theft isn't even a big deal. Like why are people so mad at thieves?"
because they were the type of look Bungie already had in mind for the game
stop making shit up you fucking kike
prove it
That's platinum-grade copium if anyone there sincerely believes a pivot of anything (except to cancellation) is possible within three months
what do you mean? Bungie promised they would be writing the entire story and lore in 3 months bro.
It would be quiet a feat to develop architecture, fashion, trees, character designs, etc from some colored typography and simple shapes on a white background. They obviously had more than a single inspiration and they chose stuff that fit together well in the mind of the art director.
Bungie's Halo is ludokino. Pretending it's bad goes to show that either you never played it or you are too flatout retarded to understand a game that's simple by design.
Thing is the state might actually do something about your car being stolen. Lawsuits are expensive and you'll probably go bankrupt before losing on a technicality against a multibillion dollar corporation, the court of public opinion is your only option to retaliate and maybe get some patreon subscribers out of the deal.
Bro, you might need medication, relax.
Like literally, this shit is what I'm talking about.
lmao movement systems in a single player mean nothing when it comes to multiplayer pvp games, the most important thing for multiplayer pvp is the netcode, there's nothing more frustrating than lagging and stuttering and getting killed by players who rubberbanding around, and the second most important thing is hit registering, if you shoot at the head of a guy and it doesn't register then you'll quit the game in 10 minutes, the fact that you can parkour in a single player game doesn't promise that it would be a good responsive snappy pvp experience
Sony having Bungie reboot Resistance would have been a better idea. Anything that tried to capture what Halo had, a great sci-fi campaign with a solid multiplayer function. But almost every FPS has to target a shitty niche-multiplayer type and gun for that nowadays.
I played the last gametest for this, and they could not have made a more boring game. The art theft is just the second of their worries if they want something actually worthy of playing.
why do they insist in making the same fucking game that already exist but with even more generic characters and mechanics? how do you see this and think, yup! this is gonna be the GOTY.
you're calling me retarded so you're mad
Just stop being a retard casually defending theft.
People care about having their work stolen. You would understand this if you'd ever had a job and someone else got paid for something you did.
The text and logo art style looks like something from The Designers Republic (Wipeout), I'd be really surprised if the tranny artist was the sole inspiration when there's other more notable examples they could draw from
You're not wrong but the movement in TLOU1 Factions and Uncharted 4's multiplayer felt good so I don't doubt it would've turned out fine.
obviously
You keep saying things are clear and obvious, yet the only evidence or proof shows that this one artist's work was plagiarized, it was all featured in a trailer meant to hype up and sell the game, and it all matches the surrounding art style and aesthetics of everything else.
That Obviously and Clearly shows that they viewed these "decals" as essential to the game's design, as they literally included them in the reveal trailer. They aren't simply extra artwork that matches their already pre-defined aesthetic, and you are disingenuous for even suggesting something so retarded.
Damn they hate that nigga Pete Parsons
Nobody here does. It's a consequence of using the term to deride anyone who disagrees with you (rhetorical "you") for over a decade because everyone is incapable of making an actual argument.
I'm pretty sure they even said Wipeout as inspiration on the livestream.
And I'm sure Wipeout was inspired from somewhere else too.
t. Cowadooty player
the court of public opinion is your only option to retaliate
nigga what, plagiarism as clear cut as Bungie's is pretty fucking actionable
this is actually a payday if handled right
And there it is. This is always where it ends up "So you approve of plagarism?!"
I'm an artist, you've likely reposted some of my low effort memes. Look how mad you are, all because I'm not mad enough and I pointed out how fuckin crazy you people get
You're just retarded and there is no point in arguing with you.
They literally named a bunch of their influences including Wipeout in the livestream.
t.
Every post you made is downplaying plagiarism.
It's impossible to take you seriously because I know the awful shit you think looks good. You annoying weebs and DND nerds have the most abysmal aesthetic taste imaginable.
They could have revived Marathon since nu Doom made boomer shooters popular.
it takes alot for these Corpo types to get this mad at someone.
it must be really fucking bad there.
It's not enough to not be racist you must be anti-racist
Yet they stole artwork and then included that artwork in their "reveal trailer."
You still haven't told me why Bungie did this. Did they think they would get away with plagiarism or what?
Take five minutes and fucking THINK about this, you mong.
artist makes posters and some generic logos
this is somehow the same thing as an entire artistic treatment for a game's universe, including how the buildings look, how the robots look, the 'silkworms make cyborg bodies' shit, and everything else in Marathon's art style
What you're suggesting is beyond retarded. Bungie was probably putting the look for the game together in 2019 (Marathon didn't get greenlit until 2020), this guy had some reference material he liked, saved it, and it got ingested, along with a shitload of other reference materials, into what would eventually coalesce to become Marathon's goofy art style.
The more interesting question, and what will absolutely kill Marathon dead if it happens, is if anyone else got ripped off and nobody knows about it yet.
That's an inspiration but the in-game textures look more minimalistic, which is closer to the artist that they plagiarized.
Graphic Stealism
Correct, it isn't enough to sit around saying "wow people get really mad about their work getting stolen and not receiving profits for it that's crazy. Like just who cares what's the big deal why get mad?"
It's impossible to take you seriously because you're simping for this copypasted cyberclown aesthetic and easily wowed by some nice cinematic editing that would make literally anything look good
You could haul ass and shit out a narrative in three months if it's just appearing as text on some in-game terminals or item descriptions. Fuck it, you could even get that text localized.
What you're not doing in three months is making any kind of gameplay changes, let alone fundamental ones.
artist makes generic logo
Yet Bungie stole it and put it in their reveal trailer.
Again, explain this. If it's just shitty artwork anyone can do and means nothing, why would they put it in their reveal trailer which shows everyone what to expect the game to look like???
They steal shit all the time so they probably didn't realized that they crossed the line when they copied logos with no changes.
kill yourself, faggot.
kek
Not allowed to speak
That's how I imagine Sony and Bungie.
Toxic positivity happens to often.
Damn this is peak reddit sperging
Still not beating the allegations of being totally unhinged
Underrated.
no defense
"other people do it so whatever..."
congrats, you've officially lost your honor and morality!
go out and rape someone, champ, other people do it so who cares?
Keep pretending you've made something worth stealing and totally get it bro.
Not the same anon btw.
New screenshot just leaked.
More stolen art all over the place.
It wasn't really, the designers republic are a graphic design studio that basically invented that style, they are a rare seed of inspiration and were used by all kinds of British media institutions in the 90s and early 00s
In some states you can be shot in the head for being caught in a home stealing. But steal from an artists website and it's "chill out".
NOOOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT IT
I hate Reddit mods
"no, you see, they stole the *art style* from other people. they only stole the artwork itself from that one guy and it was just basic shit so who cares???"
You're too dumb to engage with. Enjoy you gatcha and generic fantasy slop
moominchad
It didn't help, but there was negative hype or interest for some retarded looking 3v3 pvp extraction shooter wearing the name of a dead franchise.
Chill out anon it's just someone else saying they made this when they didn't like what's the big deal lol who cares about profiting from their own work haha
You'd think the game pirating crowd would be ok with this
SHUT
IT
DOWN
STOP NOTICING
generic logos that anyone could make
except Bungie, apparently
I accept your concession, enjoy this art"style" being so discredited now nobody will ever attempt it again
Only if you have double digit IQ and don't understand that pirates don't make money off of other people's work and claim they made it.
ignorant retard gains knowledge of a single data point and extrapolates on it infinitely to pretend he's an expert on the matter
Stop embarrassing yourself, anyone above the age of 30 with an interest in art can immediately recognise the 10 other sources they are ripping from.
I've bought games I pirated before because I enjoyed them and wanted a clean legit copy to have forever.
Why didn't Bungie offer to pay the artist for his work before they released the trailer?
Ignores the fact that I said 1000 times the game looks like shit but the trailers are nice.
Arguing with people and opinions that don't exist is a waste of everyone's time, get a better hobby
The lack of GI really hurts this game
It's like Mirror's Edge without the baked lighting
10 other sources
How about you post one(1) piece of artwork in the trailer that was made by an named artist who ISN'T the guy complaining his shit was stolen?
My point stands, remain butthurt friend. No doubt some other talentless hack will awkwardly cram shitty jap fashion show aesthetics into some other genre and you can wank over that instead
You kept the money you would have to had spent to purchase the game
It lack the shiny shader from the trailer. For some reason they slapped this dull cartoon shader over everything. It also needs more light.
the lighting here is abominable.
jap fashion show aesthetics
Kek what are you even talking about, do you just randomly pick words out of a hat and hope they allude to the topic at hand?
the same thing that would happen if I didn't pirate it? crazy.
The internet over represents a protected class of wealthy retards
increase the fan service
That's not possible. Motoko has all kinds of sexual encounters in the manga that show everything including vaginal fluids.
He's so mindbroken that he's not sure if he's attacking gacha gooners or defending Bungie's plagiarism.
sure is a lot of untreated mental illness in this thread
Unlikely cause that'll for sure expose some of their own dirty laundry and in general make them look incompetent at not doing their due diligence before the purchase.
Sorry I'm not stupid enough to engage with an ESL who thinks the argument is about something it isn't. Learn to read, all your autistic posts in this thread are from your lack of reading comprehension.
You're assuming it was knowingly stolen, which I disagree with.
Accidentally stolen (where the excuse is incompetence) is infinitely more likely. Some Bungie artist, who has no idea who the original artist is, just being lazy and grabbing something from the Reference folder instead of making something inspired by what's in that folder is likely what happened.
Twitter does, but the internet at large at this point in history is full of Chinese and Indians.
The left only know how to subvert. This should explain a lot.
do you find it at all weird you're making a headcanon story about what happened?
So you have ZERO evidence to back up your wild assertions? Cool
You're so confused you're defending the guy who you think you're arguing against and you're attacking the retard who agrees with you.
I can't believe you approve of plagiarism. How dare you.
the most retarded thing for me is how they see fortnite and genshin and decide to sell their game at full price with ugly as fuck characters
Might as well be arguing about the earth being flat, since you can't read and are determined to post about shit nobody said.
It's not so much headcanon as I work in tech and have seen this exact scenario play out a few times.
In every case, it's been laziness or incompetence.
This isn't some 'Limbo of the Lost' situation, although I wish it was because that's way funnier
He's been doing it the whole thread. Coming up with these weird stories that make no sense in order to distract from the glaring plagiarism and artstyle theft.
I can't believe artists get nutty over their art being stolen. How could they do this?
I'm still trying to figure where the gacha gooner thing came from
It's not so much headcanon as I work in tech and have seen this exact scenario play out a few times.
It's not so much headcanon as it is you headcanoning it based on personal experiences. Interesting. Still headcanon though, you see?
talking to yourself
Y I K E S
STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!
Release week is going to be a total clown show.
the post didn't specify whether it was good or bad, only that it was what happens
I AGREE HOW DARE YOU
didn't specify whether it was good or bad
Your reading comprehension is dogshit.
Literally the only things I know about this game are:
#1 it's shitty GaaS slop
and
#2 all the female characters are ugly
The only modern GaaS that actually sell are Gacha which are entirely coasting on sexy female character designs. Fortnite is an outlier; stop chasing that lightning in a bottle and recognize that sexy gacha is the much more reliable option to make billions of dollars with a new IP.
It's an assumption I'm making that seems like a logical conclusion instead of 'Bungie intentionally, explicitly, and brazenly stole this artist's work,' which seems silly.
True say
which seems silly.
Ever see the artwork they stole for Destiny 2?
say the p word
basketcases from reddit reveal themselves and intensify their schizoposting
I've noticed Marathon threads always draw an unusual number of redditors/discordians but this is crazy
It's reminding me of Anthem. Like 1:1 recreation of Anthem, to the point it feels like some esoteric ceremony from the Elder Scrolls designed to mantle Anthem's ghost on a metaphysical level.
But the only evidence we have is Bungie blatantly stealing artwork and trying to erase the artist's name and website from everything... what are you talking about???
At this point, I think there's a better than 50% chance it doesn't get released.