PAY VOICE ACTORS WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING WORTH!!!!!!!!!

how are voice actors being replaced by an ai chat bot that responds to countless people in real time
they literally could not do that job if it was offered to them

Can you do that? Be like

hey you used AI without warning us (a completely unrelated body of people), we get to sue you now

Good. They might have no case but Epic should have resistance anytime they use sloppa.

Yes. They don't really have a say in this. They Re essentially saying that they should have hired a Vader impersonator.

they don't deserve shit. they were the ones who started being mad about other voice actors playing characters that didn't match their race and turning this whole thing in the shit it's today. I hope they all get replaced by AI

As everyone ITT already said
Vader's VA himself signed over the rights of his voice to Disney so this is a knowingly baseless claim made purely for attention.
It's essentially clickbait.

Would this set the record for "most jewish lawsuit in history"?

This is why China will take over the world. The West is so weak.

They can try, but it';s likely the judge will just throw the case out and the union will be forced to pay the lawyer fees of Bungie.

Replace the work of human performers with an AI

Wasn't the whole Fortnite Vader thing that you could talk to it and it would reply to you
How the fuck interacting with an AI with the voice of a dead person replace any sort of work of his

Everything Marxists claim, often correctly, about corporate greed and bullshit is triply true of basically every labor union ever to exist. Even if they weren't run by mobsters the union officers would all still deserve to die.

SAG-AFTRA doing something stupid and embarrassing again

oh hey is it another day ending with y?
seriously if they think this is gonna make companies want to work with them more they've got another thing coming

Video game voice actors are generally pretty shit, it's funny to see them lose their minds. I mean they go on and on about how it's specific and difficult to master skillset, but I've noticed lots of actual actors jump into animated or game roles just fine, in fact usually better than most videogames actors. Far too many game VAs do the breathy anime shit.

lololol get fucked voice trannies

marathon stole textures from someone? I HOPE IT FLOPS AND EVERYONE AT BUNGIE DIES

Fucking kek. James Earl Jones signed his voice over to disney before he died SPECIFICALLY so they could use it for AI. Union faggots have zero say in this.

Needs a "myth of consent: isn't there someone you forgot to ask?" Edit.

yeah they didn't steal a voice from the sagasses
the man himself and his estate got paid up front over it years before for all rights

Stealing someone else work without their knowledge and permission is not the same as Using someone "work" (this case Earl voice) with actual permission

Not at all comparable, nothing was stolen in this instance

They're doing a good job of running their union into the ground.

Me when i apple my oranges

Yes

I actually support VAs and collective bargaining but fuck sagaftra, fucking awful union. I'd rather see every union VA get fucked over than sagaftra get a win. I want them destroyed.

he doesn't apple his oranges

kwab

oh hey is it another day ending with y?

No it's not, what's your point?

Who has the higher seethe over AI currently? Voice actors or "artists"?

Can't tell the difference between things you paid for and things you didn't

But did he sign it off for them to have him say racial slurs?

stand in front of a microphone for an hour recording lines

PAY ME WHAT IM WORTH

Okay, enjoy your minimum wage, faggot. Voice acting has to be the most pathetic "job" there is.

Nah, SAG-AFTRA is just losing steam since it got exposed they don't really care about AI and just want to force people into their scam, so they're schizoing it out for attention

This is why they'll probably move more VA gigs to Brits, since they tend to be theater/minor tv actors doing VA work as a side gig.

as if it's not just a precedent for stealing from living people

monday doesn't end with y

Permissions aside, how the fuck do you even put a human on this job? It's a god damn chatbot with glorified text to speech. You can't fill that role no matter how many hours in front of a microphone you do.

But they're worth nothing?

I don't think we will ever have a more jewish lawsuit than Dodge v Ford.

Looks like Epic did pay them what they're worth

You are correct and it doesn't. The fortnite Vader thing tries to respond in real time to randos speaking to it in proximity chat. To replicate this with VAs you'd have to hire an entire stable of impersonators and have them plugged in 24/7 to respond to any random that happened to bug them, which would be unsustainable for anyone.

I thought it was approved by the original VA's estate? Why are people without standing complaining about shit that doesn't concern them?

lol, JEJ allowed it during his last years to use AI after he dies.

WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING WORTH!!!!!!!!!

They're worth nothing

HOW DARE THEY NOT HIRE 1 MILLION DARTH VADER IMPERSONATORS TO SPEAK TO EVERY 12 YEAR OLD PLAYING!!!

Fans are partly to blame for this. They worship the ground out of these VA that when they try to replace them the fans sperg out so now with AI companies have no reason to replace these voices

chose to replace human work.

The dude behind Vaders voice signed his voice away ages ago. Nobody else has voiced the character. What work?

pay the jewish syndicate, goy

Why are voice actors such a persecuted people despite their noble actions?

It's so cathartic to watch leftists get destroyed by AI after they spent decades taunting everyone else about being replaced by robits

Why would you hire American voice actors at this point?

Kek, I wonder if they would also be flipping their shit if they used an impersonator.

SAG-AFTRA deserves the Pinkerton treatment. Even among other unions/guilds they are uniquely terrible.

you have to realize, ai is so far behind because they have to lobotomize every new model to comply with the modern age of thinking

the absolute state of the entertainment industry

I mean we could get some big name talent

or we could save a few bucks and just have our voice lines be you know... off

just save a few bucks it's not like game voice lines are ever iconic lol

yeah none of our customers give a fuck and we don't give a fuck lol

bargaining with us over appropriate terms

The only bargaining chip VAs have is to PAY for their voices to be used. Seriously, they have no "terms".

the literal definition of virtue signaling

Timmy btfod fucking apple what do these clowns think will happen to them

do the right thing

what he means is that he doesn't want to get harassed by twitteroids for playing the role of someone of a race or nationality he's not

Because they force them to pay subscription fees to be a part of the voice acting industry. And if they don't they berate and ostracize them from any company that uses Union voice actors.
They are doing more to harm the industry than help it with each passing day. Especially when they "settled" on an agreement AFTER a majority of the broke VA's and actors couldn't pay their membership fee.
It's exploitation.

let's be honest, that role obviously was for a small game that didn't pay enough.

When you are so anti-racist that you circle back into being the most racist possible

There’s never a healthy balance among the negotiations of humans. Either you’re extremely communist pig like China and they steal all patents/copyright material or you’re a corporate pig in America that wants to charge a million dollars to approve someone implementing your material into their work. It’s like the labor union arguments. Okay, you don’t want unions? Go ahead and depend on corporate executives to give you a respectable wage. Yet if you support unions you’re rooting for the collapse of businesses because unions protect the scumiest, thief employees that steal from the company more than they defend the hard workers. Never a healthy balance among. Guess it’s the fault of arrogant primates

character was piece of chit

Damn

What's he thinking right now?

I HOPE IT FLOPS AND EVERYONE AT BUNGIE DIES

Dumb fucking ape i wished this regardless of any actual wrong doing because it looks like shit. The stolen textures are just comedic proof that they're terrible

I think it's more of a "let's just do it so the people that payed thousands to get in the union won't bitch at us and say that we just stood there and did nothing while their (potential) jobs got taken by ai". They know they have no case, they're just doing it so the union wont implode in rage.

Paying someone to act for a videogame mod

Why are VAs so out of touch?

NOOOOOOOO YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE A DARTH VADER IN YOUR GAME THAT CAN ACTUALLY HOLD A CONVERSATION WITH YOU IF YOU SPEAK TO IT WITH YOUR MIC

Why not?

BECAUSE I'M TRANS AND I SAID SO

ok
*pays them 0.00 dollars*

Or... I could pay someone who makes an AI model and be able to do all the work inhouse? Why would I pay someone else and be subject to their whims? Instead of doing the smarter thing and paying for the tool that lets me do it myself.

You're making a mod for free? Better pay us anyway!

Literally inventing problems so they can "sell" the solution

Pay the dead guy who years ago signed over the rights to his voice

when you are so X that you circle back into being X

this happens quite a lot and is the reason you're seeing a lot of right wingers today behaving like the new leftists and vice versa. People become what they antagonize the most.

I don't have to hope.

how to turn ALL ZOOMERS against your caus

lmao based retards

they are less subtle than shitalian gangsters in movies.
I'd file a counter-harassment and other petty shit if i were epic

how the fuck would that even work? have billions of pajeets on standby to do a darth vader impression every match?

Don’t forget, he and his family/estate was also paid in advance so he was already paid for this too lol

ask a VA to say slurs

"no"

Wow great idea. Also ignoring the inevitable tantrum, mental breakdown and fundraiser for the VA to 'recover'.

They don't. They think they own voice acting.

Saar Wars

why don't they file a complain to disney then?
they've been using AI for darth vader for years, way before James Earl Jones died even

AI voice seemed like a great idea for modders terrified of getting their friend to record a voice line. Shitty voice lines go a lot further than text lines for immersion, especially when the base game is voiced.
But the industry should have you know... money, and standards?
Some ass hole in a suit probably stood in front of the investor table and starting talking out of his ass

our dynamic new AI implementation strategy is reducing our labor costs in new and exciting areas where once costly human assets had to be painstakingly allocated and tapped. this will provide excellent value to you, or shareholders

Attention. The lawsuit itself is clickbait, made solely to get people to notice it.

exactly. I get it sometimes, when a game clearly uses AI to create a voice just to get around paying them, but this was a case where the guy consented and was paid. You can't get any fairer than that

Is this what redditors think happen at investor meetings?

Ah Britain. The land where even the guy playing passerby #3 is classically trained.

SAG is so funny, they somehow keep shooting themselves in the foot over and over. No wonder games are coming out with English VA

Normally I would agree, but in this case they are at least doing something that requires voice synthesis of some form. Though using AI for it at this stage is still insane since it will go off on rants about "nickers".

money, and standards?

How would money and standards produce an alternative to how AI is being used in this scenario (that is, having a Darth Vader AI that spits out theoretically infinite lines about what ever stupid shit you say to it)?

This isn't even that bad and most of it are people egging it on so it's not the AI tool just saying it out of nowhere. If busybodies didn't hone in on this it would just lose steam as some novel middle school "Say Nigger teehee" antic.

payed

It's spelled paid.

Laughed at imaging that

It's essentially clickbait.

It's literally sag aftra having a hissy fit lol, they're not getting money for this, they're further ruining their reputation and it's hilarious.

The weird part is that Ai actors literally couldnt work in a case where the LLM produces generated voice lines on the fly.

Fortnite "chose to replace the work of human performers with A.I. technology," and "did so without providing any notice of their intent to do this and without bargaining with us over appropriate terms."

There really wasnt true replacing going on, unless you wish to hire an individual voice actor to voice each a line llm generates each time a kid asks darthy something.

ofc if the union has its actors sign shit that says "you dont work for a company that uses ai that produces voices on the fly" thats their issue but how that relates to fortnite is a mystery

How the fuck are they taking an actors role by doing this? This is an AI you can actually have a real time conversation with, like you're actually talking with Darth Vader. Are they proposing that Epic should hire millions of Darth Vader impersonators to talk with you live while playing the game?

The entire family consented to this and Jones already signed off on it being used, I doubt they have a case to stand on

spelt*

Interesting case.
JEJ said it was fine
But he doesn't own the character

I noticed E33 had 0 American VAs

reputation

What reputation? Besides, people already hate AI so this is just an excuse to get them to keep thinking about how much they hate AI and challenge Disney even if the action itself is obviously bs.

is that the girl from the last of us (tv show)

Saar use the force.

The union is betting that positive press from this and any potential do actions will offset the cost of a easily defeated court case

Neither does SAG-AFTRA. Disney owns the character and it seems safe to assume that Epic made a deal with them.

Are they proposing that Epic should hire millions of Darth Vader impersonators to talk with you live while playing the game?

thanks you sirs this is derth vadeer speaking

people already hate AI

you are one seriously delusional fuck

SAG-AFTRA does the equivalent of ambulance chasing but for lawsuits

people already hate AI

people don't give a FUCK about AI
hell, considering the fortnite thing now, a lot more people will probably accept it because it was le funny in fortnite

Yeah, for the most part i'm in favor of the SAG, i do think that there needs to be some level of regulamentation on AI use in regards to acting, especially voice acting, but this is a clear cut case where there just isn't any other option. This is something only AI can do, its not stealing anyone's job, you legitimately just could not hire a voice actor to do this, so i don't see why it would be a problem. And i think most people would agree, seeing as how the reaction to this update has been overwhelmingly positive

it is a miracle mihoyo didn't boot everyone yet

Ultimate gravy train. You need to hire VAs to get paid full time in shifts to play vader, like they're actors at Disney World or something.

people already hate AI

Only the badly generated ones.
vocaroo.com/11HO41XurqST

Ambulance chasing is for lawsuits.

You're right, nobody on this planet still seethes over AI, nobody. Go to any game that is found to use AI art, voices, anything and you won't see a single person contesting it.
Especially not on Anon Babble. Everyone on Anon Babble loves AI. It's not as if we have entire threads of people saying how all AI is slop that hit bump limit every week.
Nope, I must be delusional.

nah it's the thing that voices paimon (this fucking gremlin from genshin)
she's constantly pulling stupid shit due to wanting to make everything about her (pretty sure she tried to get hoyo to make paimon non-binary at one point because she's non-binary so clearly HER character should also be) but this one was particularly egregious since she's bitching over VAs still working during the strike... while also working during the strike

based

Yeah that came out wrong

That's not even what they're crying about.

probably because most voice actors are not rich and famous and therefore need to be protected from exploitation

Where are these posts when Anon Babble has its daily

all AI is slop

thread

I am still amazed how dagoth ur work so well for AI

Only if you're British, spelled is correct in American English, payed is never correct.

Do the SAG VAs even get paid during this strike?
What keeps them away from just quiting SAG and going back being VAs

It's a culture issue. No system can survive if the majority of people within it refuse to act in good faith. It's a silly liberal notion that you can create a perfect system. Rather than waste time with the details, one should foster a healthier culture, and the good times will flow.

I know I was just being annoying

vocaroo.com/1hstnSnDPMXk

whats the regulation besides arbitrarily limiting access to a cheap technology
I dont like the arbitrary banning of using someone voice because a union uses their members leverage against it, when absent of said leverage the game studios could use it to make the games better.

Anon Babble is everyone

think about it in normie terms anon, no one gives a fuck about how things are made, they only care about the final product

Do the SAG VAs even get paid during this strike?

no
they are working on mcdonalds or doing door dash

I just hate modern game devs man.

doing that shit on a daily basis, for or against, is mental illness
I'll just partake in the fleeting shitposting fads

What keeps them away from just quiting SAG and going back being VAs

SAG will metaphorically break your legs and kill your dog if you leave the union

everyone

If you took

people still think

to mean everyone, you're just stupid.
I obviously meant

this is just to galvanize the people who hate AI to attack Disney and otherwise throw a shitfit even if the underlying suit is baseless

This is not fucknite's fault, It's Disney for forcing James to sign his soul to them.
anyway he did sign his soul away for projects like these

Oh, then good job.

the funniest part of that situation is that genshin was never even part of the actual sag strike so the entire situation turned out to be a collective tantrum from people who, going by union rules, shouldn't even be working on the game

leaving a modern day version of a mafia protection racket

nonbinary person playing binary character

We need laws against digital binaryface. It's 2025.

I can't believe JEJ would just stiff people like that

what about in AAVE?

YOU HAVE TO CATER TO MY MENTAL ILLNESS

The audacity of Westerns is something else.

I agree a perfect system is illogical but I disagree that liberals want a perfect system. At least the “perfect system” normal, rational people imagine. A perfect system to liberals wouldn’t be a balanced system it would be a system that oppresses whomever they disagree with. I think we have the overall closest representation of a even, balanced system in the USA but as ideologies become more divisive and different the people responsible for maintaining the “equal”, unbiased, rational system are they themselves sabotaging the system by being corrupt. For example if a large gaming developer or publisher wants some bill passed they can have it passed via lobbyists regardless of how it affects the citizen/customer. That’s not what our founding fathers intended. The USA was supposed to implement capitalism upon its fellow citizens, not crony capitalism that works against said citizens

That's it, time to bust these gay fucking unions

James Earl Jones isn't in your union. He's fucking dead. Moreover he, and his estate, agreed to hand over the voice rights in advance.

There is absolutely NO reason for these fags to be upset. Not a single one.

Why the FUCK would a single one of these LEECHES be entitled to a cent here?

not even close

I don't like Epic at all but I hate FAG-AFTRA even more.
Go get 'em, Tim.

But they won't accept $0.

He has gotten cold.

I don't know if it's the same everywhere, but the California voice actor clique is pretty shitty and like an exclusive club

unions: gay shit, everyone refuses to work

no unions: gay shit, corporate overlords fuck everyone in the ass

What's the solution?

stop bootlicking to corpos

This union is more money grubbing than any corporation in the US

That's probably Dodge v Ford.

I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.

I don't like Epic at all

This is a dumb take, Epic is a great thing

Distributism

Watchdogs. Strong government. Active independent media. Basically, people keeping each other in line with wide distribution of power.

If the person is dead don't you legally only need the permission of the family to use the person's voice for AI?

So 0? Ok.

No unions + billions of corporate overlords competing with each other. Autocratic city states are the future of humanity.

They can still work on union projects that signed a deal with SAG-AFTRA.

What keeps them away from just quiting SAG and going back being VAs

If enough companies sign that deal, they won't be able to hire non-union VAs. So by quitting the union they risk not getting any roles.
SAG-AFTRA.are keeping them hostages.

This is literally the

I consent

I consent

I DONT

meme, as Vader's VA and family consented before he died

What's the solution?

x.com/TruthnewsonUSA/status/1921380307862745229

acceleration
more radicalization
hitler 2.0: victor edition

there's no other solution

The VA OK'd
The family OK'd it
The estate OK'd it

but isn't there someone you forgot to ask, the completely unaffiliated FAG-AFTRA?

I look forward to when xAI Game Studios is in full swing and we get to start prompting entire games.

That's assuming he didn't grant permission while he was alive.

Shitty voice lines go a lot further than text lines for immersion

Agree to disagree, although I'll grant you that silent characters in an otherwise voiced game are jarring as fuck. I'm perfectly fine with noise babble or text unless the atmosphere the game is going for just can't hack it without VA (e.g. Ace Combat where half the charm is in the hammy delivery and multiple overlapping distress signals). If the pacing can stand it then I usually feel better served by a text box than unprofessional voice work.

jej he seethed

sag afra?
more like smack fucking africa

Limit Union Powers
Limit Shareholder Primacy
There.

I'm not brown enough to agree with you.

you need to hire voice actors to sit on a phone line and pretend to be darth vader

okay retards, this isn't a traditional use of VA at all

HAAHAHAHA HEY LOOK FELLOW CHUDDY BUDDIES I GOT DARTH VADER TO SAY SOMETHING PROBLEMATIC!!!! HEY LOOK GUYS VADER SAID SOMETHING TRANSPHOBIC OMG YASSSSSSS I LOVE HIM YASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! I LOVE THE AI SLOPPA I LOVE THE CORPO MHMMMMMMM YES FUCKING LOVE YOU CORPO THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR LETTING MY DARTH VADER SAY HECKIN WHOLESOME CHUD TALKING POINTS I LOVE IT! HAHA FUCK NON-AI SLOP FUCK REAL ART AND REAL EFFORT I GET TO TALK WITH HECKIN CHATGPT PRETENDING TO BE DARTH VADER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What would happen if game companies just said "we are not going to use anyone from SAG-AFTRA anymore" and just used people from England who are part of Equity not SAG-AFTRA? Like would it not be win win for gamers and the companies as English actors are better and cheaper and not part of an annoying union.

Troontist soon to be unemployed and homeless seethe. Get a real job.

710150465

no (You) for this cheap bait

refreshing to see a non retarded non bootlicking answer, thanks

You can sue anyone for anything in the US. It's not free however.

What would happen

already is happening

No I mean what if they just came out and said it.

PAY FOR MY VASECTOMY REVERSAL SURGERY

they already did, mihoyo which was who started this whole seething said fuck it and started booting all SAG VAs, all new character VAs are non union

I can't because minimum wage laws exist.

They're funding Fumito Ueda and are trying to get more money into the hands of game developers opposed to Steam who wants to rob everyone. Not to mention giving the engine away for free basically.

They are objectively a good force for gaming.

so this is literal impressionists being mad they can't "work" in fortnite, isn't it?

unfair labor

They asked the rights holder and JEJ's estate for permission, do these people think they own everyone's voices?

How do they expect to provide the voice for an automatically responding AI model?
Get sampled and then turned into an AI voice?

Because they do.
Capeesh?

seeing a lot of right wingers today behaving like the new leftists and vice versa.

Seeing them screech when a male main character isn't a perfect marry sue because any character flaw is a personal attack to humiliate men is a painful experience.

Isn't AI the whole fucking point of the gimmick?? It's live interaction. It's not something a real voice actor could do.

Why cares?

this but without even a shred of irony or sarcasm
fuck bungie fuck voice actors and fuck trannies

I don't know what exact contracts sag-aftra may have with epic, but usually when a union and an employer make a contract it includes a clause where the employer can't employ outsource work that could have been done by a union worker

I guess sag-aftra is arguing that this was a valid opportunity to hire a union actor instead of AI

Heh, (((unions)))

non-retarded

he says looking for a post explicitly defending a union crying over them not being payed or bargained with over a company using an AI recreation for an iconic role when they original voice actor and his family approved of it

It's not about licking any boots you fucking mouth breather.

Mines better

I fucking hate sand

Why are VAs such scum?
Is this an ego thing?

We're going to add Darth Vader to our game. He'll join you doing your online matches and you can have real conversations with him

Or you could PAY us you could PAY us you could find millions of voice actors and have them do live Darth Vader impressions and PAY THEM PAY THEM FUCKING PAY THEM

then i make my own voice which sounds exactly like Vader. nigger....

It's a civil case not a criminal case. The union will have to pay for it and they're going to end up paying for Ebin's expensive legal team too when the judge gets done buttfucking them for bringing a stupid court case before him.

I SAY "VOICE ACTORS," YOU SAY "PAY THEM"
VOICE ACTORS

GO BROKE

JEJ/Estate consented

Epic/Disney consented

Is their someone you forgot to ask?

This guy shouldn't even be interjecting himself into gaming VA related issues when he basically only did cameo voices for friends. Go back to making silly voices for the Hazbin Hotel clone

Anon Babble is full of no life neets so they make fun of anyone trying to preserve his job

when the neet bucks run dry you are going to feel sorry faggots

i wrote this

Why does Anon Babble hate voice actors so much?

isnt this stupid on two levels because

1) they DID pay an actor for their performance, they used james earle jones voice and he was payed for his original performances, and his estate probably gets royalties from continued uses of his voice clips

2) ai has to be used because of the dynamic nature of the system and its responses

paid for VA rights

Stole assest

both are le theft

anon what's your IQ?

Why does Anon Babble hate voice actors

why does Anon Babble hate devs

why does Anon Babble hate artists

why does Anon Babble hate women

they hate what they can't have

Why shouldn't we?

I HOPE IT FLOPS AND EVERYONE AT BUNGIE DIES

Yes.

Yes. He wanted to ensure that his family will always get royalties and money from Star Wars for this character, and to ensure that it will always be his character. Based af in my opinion, no one else has ever done Vader justice anyway.

95%+ of them are ultimately worthless or outright drag a product down, get paid hundreds of dollars an hour for shit that isn't actual labor, and desperately want to be celebrities

Because they vastly overestimate their worth. The fact that they can so easily be replaced by a computer should be a sign to them that they need to get some real skills other than reading and speaking.

Thinking of a random example here but if all the Simpsons actors died and they gave the permission to use their voices for a.i so the show can keep on going long after they are dead would you lot be happy with that? legit wondering.

I tried to hire emma watson to narrate mein kampf and she called me a nazi!!!!!

Overvalued.

Stealing what exactly?

I work for a living. The best way to preserve your job is to provide labor or service someone else can not. I do this by being damn good at my job, not going on strike over dumb shit, and negotiating fair wages man to man. If they won't pay me a decent wage, I'll take my skills and go somewhere else.

I don't like how (in america) it has nothing to do with how good you are, it's a club for insiders that actively try to keep anyone out. The same 10 people voiced a thousand different characters, and most of them aren't even good.
Also they're opinionated and uppity.

I don't really see why voice actors are somehow less than actors you see in movies.

yea and he/his family is surely got a retarded amount of money for it

they aren't even complaining about AI being used, they're complaining that they weren't asked
they think that they are more privileged to his voice than him and his family

I mean, the show is already a ghost of itself, so I can't imagine much would change.

Sure. Their voices at the moment sound unbelievably bad so emulating their younger voices might result in a better show

Sag-aftra

So the people who never actually work are mad?

Why would anyone be happy that MORE simpson is made when it's been shit for 3 times as long as it's been good?

Leftist luddites with an inflated ego. They're not needed anymore.

I need to pretend to be a hysterical alphabet person because... I just do!!

Don't have enough pictures saved in your folder?

tell me why I should like them instead

ah yes because movie actors can look however the fuck they want, wear whatever the fuck they want, recite their lines and fuck off

SAG-AFTRA voice actors and anyone affiliated with them, do you ever see anyone bitch the British people voicing From Software games? Those people are busy actually acting on theatres instead of bitching on the internet.

Then again the previous voice for Bayonetta managed screech too, so the SAG mindset can infect those outside the bubble too.

99% of English VAs always had huge fucking Ego

Kinda like actors they think their opinion on anything matters.
And it doesn't. Because they are dancing monkeys.
Shut the fuck up and do your job.

I agree, we should go back to treating actors like untouchables on the level with whores like the romans.

BEHOLD!
A VOICE ACTOR!

I'm siding with Fort nite on this one, Eff these parasites. Who do they think they are? Unions are a cancer!

I just tried calling him again but the line was dead

just pay a VA to record the infinite amount of possible voice lines the vader bot could possibly say

Why not.

They're worthless pedophiles who want to see children be castrated and genitally mutilated.

Someone voices vader for 47 fucking years

Decides the voice of vader belongs to more than just one generation, its that timeless, and signs the rights away to disney before he dies so they can continue doing the vader voice after he passes

I mean its a bit egotistical, but he was 100% right and deserved the pat on the back, it IS that iconic and it does let future projects enjoy the voice

Americans who think talking into a mic in their bedroom doing "stereotypical young teen anima protag dub voice #854729" makes them "professional" are boycotting this

Honestly the global entertainment industry should just completely boycott all voice actors from america. Not a single industry would lose anything.

My job sucks :(

Why doesn't he get an education then?

Nah, AI Darth Vader says what we want to hear

They really need to let Marge's VA retire, She's literally dying doing the voice and you can clearly hear it if you watch any new simpsons episode

I mean its a bit egotistical, but he was 100% right and deserved the pat on the back, it IS that iconic and it does let future projects enjoy the voice

If hearsay is to be believed, his family gets royalties from it anyway so that's another reason to do so

uh? Why should I care if you do a good or a bad job when I can get it for free with AI? Sorry you are fired

I haven't paid attention to the Simpsons in over 20 years. I wouldn't even notice if the show started using AI.

Wow. I have finally seen my first Fushi reaction pic, it's been 4 years. Way too underrated of a show.

How fucking dare you say a Jew like him should be mandated to work you anti-semitic piece of shit?
He was PROMISED riches and luxury beyond human comprehension long before you and your entire lineage was even walking on this Earth.

The Chinese really don't care about what happens in EN. It's like that Madmen meme.

PAY THE UNION
GIVE ME MONEY
PAY THE UNION
GIVE ME MONEY
PAY THE UNION
GIVE ME MONEY
PAY THE UNION
GIVE ME MONEY

you should check it out sometimes just for a laugh, everyone sounds completely wrong except Homer and Bort.

LOOK GUYS I DID WHAT YOU TOLD ME TO DO, NOW SUCK ME OFF

kind of seems like if you just "thought it was the right thing to do" you wouldn't need to broadcast it in a public place for validation

Sell your voice to be used as AI for a cut in profit or royalties

Get a passive extra income while you work on something else

This is bad

Completely AI generated Simpsons, including the writing, animation and VAs would most likely be better than what is currently on the air.

I finally recruited him on my team but I got really nervous and stuttered my words when saying hi and thanking him for a compliment. I don't know if he glitched or I made Vader cringe because he stopped talking to me after that, and then I got snipped out of nowhere. It sucks to realize I'm so socially retarded now that I can't even socialize normally with fucking AI

darth vader ai voice gets added

players instantly use it to say nigger and fuck kikes

yea im thinking zoomers are based

talks about snipping his balls to save the future of mankind from overpopulation and the sake of his own country/people

I'm gonna stop myself from saying a lot of graphic, horny, or funny things here.

unbelievable lmao

KWAB

based schizo rant. genuinely forgot what this thread was about halfway through reading but you’ve convinced me that he probably owns 51% of heaven’s stock portfolio or some shit.

Inflating games budgets for absolutely no reason, any AI bot can do voices and any person with 4 limbs can do motion capture.

The "voice actors are Important" was nothing but short lived propaganda by Sony/EA etc into making games about "Movie Stars" to get braindead normies interested in them.

This has to be fake nobody would be this stupid, the actor, is FUCKING DEAD

noooooo you didn't ask us for permission!You have to use one of OUR shitty sound alikes!

Fuck off

ISN'T THERE SOMEONE YOU FORGOT TO ASK, CHUDS?

i don't see how Ian McKellen spending decades perfecting his craft or Tom Cruise riding on the side of an airplane, both on site in actual working conditions for months are better than a faggot who talks into a microphone for 16 hours in an airconditioned room

And you're also assuming that i think regular actors aren't overvalued garbage.

you are ignoring the AI is calling everyone nigger left and right

Anon Babble hates artists, developers, composers and honestly everything

The money they earn belongs to me because I have access to ai now.

Erm…you forgot to consult the Jewish cabal before using our hollywood media icon in your videotoy and their WILL be consequences

Reminder that AI is already better than your everyday shitty voice """""actor"""""
youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4h-3qTd1E

I don't know about contractual law in the US but there's a chance that Epic's contracts with VAs through FAG-FAGTRA have some sort of clause which may or may not make their point valid. For example, "by hiring a VA from our union you're not to hire a VA from outside our union without asking us first" or some bullshit like that.

Why not just hire cheap actors then? using a.i would just be soulless and just using previous voice actors anyways.

Someone has an entirely AI family guy show running 24/7 and it’s better than the real thing sometimes
youtube.com/watch?v=mDHteSYnN0Q

you need actors in movies
you don't need voice actors in games

Sure, here's a glass of water

I was already of the opinion that if anyone deserves to big themselves up for a job well done, JEJ does.
But thats an even better reason reason to do it. He's potentially setting up his family for generations

Honestly boycott SAG-AFTRA, just fucking demolish the whole special needs group

Companies should do what they preach for. If stealing games by pirating them is bad and they protect the games with DRM to protect their work, why is it ok when they do it?

inb4 some ai cultist clinically retarded faggot respond by claiming ai isn't theft fundamentally, depending on the data set

You no longer have an excuse, fucktard, you should know what ai really is by now, it's over for you if you really still buy the ai corpos' lies and cope.

selling cumsocks

THE FUTURE IS NOW

can't buy the real thing

nvm

It would be a straight upgrade because as others have said, the voice actors are fucking ancient and sound in pain.

Not just the obvious ones like Marge, but I saw a new episode with Principal Skinner talking the other day, and it was honestly just depressing how tired and muted he sounds in comparison to the old 'nam flashback skinner

AI that does the voices AND tries to emulate the writing of the first 8 seasons would probably be a big stepup from what the show is now honestly

NOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE SOMEONE PERMISSION TO USE YOUR OWN VOICE

VA's overcharge ridiculously, but using AI to make someone's voice say something they never said or would say borders on identity theft.

This but unironically. Stupid niggers should've thought twice before they joined fagaftra.

As if they bother asking.

Do you legally own the rights to your voice? and appearance? does it go into public domain 50 years after your death?

god what a terrible actress
None of the other voices are even half as bad so it can't be direction either, she's just awful

You're a fucking retard holy shit. Even if you're right or wrong, JEJ gave permission before he died to have his voice cloned with AI.

JEJ gave explicit permission, you fucking mong

You own NOTHING goyim!

Only under the condition that the show's current writing staff is also replaced by AI.

I hate FAG-AFTRANS because they're genuine scumbags that cover up for pedos (daman mills), treat indies and amateurs like shit in favour of their inner circle, enable or encourage localisation faggotry, act two-faced over AI shit (they actually have agreements in place for their big names to get AI work done so you can still hear the same shitty voice acting even after they've retired), and just act like insufferable cunts that drag down the entire industry to the point that almost all of the hate voice actors get are caused by or aimed at their members. That "union" is genuine fucking filth and every human being would be better off without them.

It's important to note that he was paid too.

This is the future of entertainment?

nah

Why the fuck would MY OPINION matter?
The studio consented. The voice actor consented. Why do you, random asshole #4, have a say? Better yet, why do you deserve a cut of the fucking profits?

Go ahead and ignore this post you disgusting lying disingenuous piece of shit

HOW DARE YOU USE AI TO VOICE A BOT THAT CAN GENERATE AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT SPEECH LINES???

THEY SHOULD HAVE HIRED THOUSANDS OF VOICE ACTORS TO ACT IT LIVE

Yeah no shit it sounds better because it has the sound data of a ton of better actress that already existed before. Pajeets will never figure out how this shit work and it's hilarious.

lol I just turned it on and got this

So I get to say slurs at TWICE the natural speed?

If you think your opinion doesn't matter then why did you reply? I think you're looking to get upset on purpose for some reason.

retard nigger alert lmao

JEJ gave explicit permission

Nice, that's one case where it did happens, and? You have a billion of gpu copyi- sorry, ""training""" hours to ask permissions for in a variety of fields.

Wow, it's barely distinguishable from what passes for adult animation currently.

his family approved this

are they not rich enough already?

You're 12 with no reading comprehension. Nobody is really talking about this particular incident.
Trannyger jeet.

Wahhh let ME profit from someone else's accomplishments, not his family!

I DESERVE their money, because.... Because I want it ok!

thread is about one particular situation

pretends the thread is about AI in general

you're a fucking idiot

Did you really think this was a good callout?
Embarrassing

so now they willingly sign up to be exploited by an agency instead.
fitting

sagaftra member gets a shit script

completely phone it in and hope that everyone else being terrible hides their performance

bonglander gets a shit script

completely bulldoze the scenery, knowing full well that nobody is going to bitch about you giving the script something memorable

fuck california and fuck actor/VA "guilds"

good goy, now pay us tons of money and annual fees to get 2 lines in a made for TV show

AI Vader is actually really cool the way he stays in character. Can't wait for more games to have AI npcs

gets stuck on this line and mumbles giggity for 30 seconds

better than the actual show

Generated

that news lady sounds like The Boss kek

incredible

this is the first thing i see when i look at it, wtf

Why are VA's in particular so obnoxious about this? I don't see people in IT for instance complaining nearly on the same level

Apples and oranges but yes regardless

remember that fat asian voice actor told people to do this then cried on twitter saying he couldnt get any work besides asian characters

Because they're afraid since they know they have no real worth and are under threat of AI replacing them. If they knew they were truly talented and had some unique to offer, they wouldn't even flinch at the thought of this affecting them in some way.

Obnoxious people having a new thing to be obnoxious about doesn't stop them from being obnoxious.

All My This!

prompt?

people in IT are intelligent

1. They are obnoxious as hell in general. Narcassistic, whiny, and are extremely demanding.
2. 90% of voice actors are terrible at their jobs. Rarely will you find someone like Charles Martinet or Keith David who are actually good actors and can do a wide range of voices. They typically go into the extreme ends of over/under acting and use the same voice. Anon Babble won’t admit this but that latter problem is also present in Japanese VAs too
3. People generally dislike any jobs with a high pay to low effort ratio. They especially dislike it when someone has a high pay/low effort job and still isn’t satisfied with their pay. Like imagine making 30k in just 4 hours of “work” (just saying lines). That’s almost a years worth of salary in a fraction of the time, and VAggers actually want more.

Talentless, nepotistic rats defending a racket that they've spend decades on building for themselves.

@grok is this true?

joe laughing for several minutes straight

NO reason for these fags to be upset.

Do you want these leeches to starve!?

Kek. You wouldn't say that if you worked in this industry.

someone drives by

vader comes out of car

"i'm gooning. I'M GOONING."

kills me

Does Chris still scream?

I don't hate voice actors, I hate AMERICAN voice actors.

This will surely help SAG-AFTRA with its current PR shitstorm its going through...

open this shit

Peter is calling Chris a tranny and saying thar he'd rather Chris Benoit'd the entire household before having to deal with this shit

uhh...

Hang on tight to that cope, you're going to need it.

wasn't this a big story forever ago? that james earl jones sold the rights to his likeness?

Imagine if the first actor to ever play Romeo made it so no other person would ever be allowed to play him.

I haven't watched The Simpsons in over 2 decades, I would continue to not care.

I hate whiny faggots more than anything in this world
shut the fuck up and do your job
you don't raise the value of your work by sabotaging other avenues
either provide better performance or try a different career

NOOOOO WHY WOULD YOU GET IDENTICAL VOICES FOR FREE WHEN YOU CAN PAY SOMEONE WHO SOUNDS KINDA LIKE THEM?!?

God, they are retarded

The newest playable is voiced by a Scottish woman trying (poorly) to do an American accent for a French character in a Chinese game.

Discarding everything else about this case, how the fuck would hiring someone even work for what they were doing? The Vader AI isn't just doing line reads, it's basically a chatbot which requires some form of voice bank to work. They'd either have to argue for having hundreds of thousands of soundslikes in-game perpetually for the duration of the season as live actors or they'd need to argue they should've sold a soundalike's voice as the AI bank instead which would be asinine to do when JEJ's is right there and Disney who is already investing into Fortnite owns that bank. Not even arguing ethics, consumption, etc, from a feasibility standpoint how the fuck does SAG AFTRA think this is somehow a labor breach considering the circumstances?

Nah I'd rather road workers made more so roads get repaired faster honestly.

James Earl Jones signed the use of his voice via AI so they could continue to make Darth Vader with his iconic voice.

SAG being a bunch of Fags as usual.

a company owns you voice beyond your own life span

I don't think I have heard a more depressing corporate-dystopia concept in my life

why are there so many unions for useless shit and not for industries where they actually need them? i'm not even a big union guy but this is baffling to me

I'm ok with making rich people pay more

b-but the product might be worse

most shit they put out is trash anyways

He sold it to them so his family could benefit after his death.
They didn't just assume the rights once he snuffed it.

James Earl Jones agreed explicitly to AI voices being used. I hate AI replacing people, but they won't win in this case.

this is the opposite of a problem?

I am glad that mass job replacement only affects a certain political view.

as having a friend who works in IT and hears storied about his co workers. absolutely fucking not

meant for

It's mostly because of job security at all costs even if it meant being detrimental to an industry.

Not that I disagree with the sentiment, but I'm just curious: why a lot of other anons hate AI when used for frame gen, textures, or code, but like it for voice acting? Voice acting seems to be the odd man out

An employer choosing how he uses his funds to run his business is now considered unfair labor practice? What type of shit is this?

fuck bungie
fuck voice actors

so nothing then

PAY VOICE ACTORS WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING WORTH!!!!!!!!!

$0.00? Deal.

I don't think most people like actual AI voice acting. It's just the way certain online VA's act about being entitled to money that makes Anon Babble happy to support it.

You thought the mob comparisons were just memes?
The way they did it old school was they offered protection if you pay them, and if somewhere down the line you end up wanting out you get kneecapped/vandalized/whacked/etc.

Sounds familiar, don't it?

They see it as something funny and memeable, that's really it.

find a soundalike and employ them!

Not until they can beat as many retakes as you want, at any time of the day, for free.

frame gen

Because it makes the game look like shit and feel like shit. It's improving though, maybe one day it'll get there.

textures

code

I'm not inherently opposed to using these tools to optimize your work performance... but with UE5 and how devs abuse lazy methods like nainite and don't even bother optimizing it, you just KNOW that devs are going to be super lazy and just generate a single texture, throw it into the game and say "good enough"

I already do pay voice actors what they're worth, and luckily I have enough money to pay every single voice actor that amount every week for the rest of my life.

I hate voice actors so much it's unreal
It's a straight up mafia

You can't copyright your voice or appearance but companies aren't allowed to pretend someone that isn't you is you.

Still fucked up and sounds like one of those things that shouldn't exist. Suppose he had a twin brother who outlived him; who owns the rights to that voice? We call that voice 'his', but the particular configuration of vocal cords or even digitally simulated notes that can produce that voice isn't completely unique. You might as well claim corporations can buy the rights to particular musical notes.

It's mostly just out of contempt for the VA industry and how it conducts itself.

NOOOOOOOOO DONT USE AI PAY VOICE ACTORS

ok, we're paying to use his voice as AI

NOT LIKE THAT, PAY US

Saggy asstra

saying ANYTHING after getting exposed by fucking Genshin Impact of all things

For English VA's, their whole career isn't just VA, they have side jobs to supplement. American VA's thought they could strong arm the industry into paying them 100k+/yr for being a VA, they got way too cocky

Cool it with the Anti-Semitism.

And wait till you hear my opinion on big corporations

It's amazing how it's always people who's jobs are the easiest and involve some do nothing job that requires 5 minutes of work that cry the hardest when millions of wagies that do back breaking labor day after day just continue to suffer without putting up a fight

This! VA's are a bunch of self entitled cunts!

the vader gimmick only works with ai and it only works for slop like fortkike any ways so who gives a fuck

no AI means no AI
Problem? Go cry to your jewish overlords

FAG-AFTRA already ruined their reputation with the whole Genshin debacle. They wanted to further their monopoly and thought they could get their goons to bully a chinese company to bow to them, but it backfired because not only did people find out the whole AI fearmongering was a complete sham and their retarded contract was available to the public for everyone to see, but their VA goons couldn't help but be insufferable, entitled, lying and terrible people in general.

Isn't possible that James Earl Jones was still part of SAG AFTRA already when he signed the AI agreement with Disney for the Vader AI voice? So would the whole outside-our-union clause/agreement would be in a nebulous grey area? Or is Epic boned anyways because they went over sagaftra's head which I guess they signed a deal not to do?

I don't like either of these entities anyways.

you dont hate voice actors enough
you dont hate liberals enough
if theres any justice they will all be replaced with a.i.

And now they're going after another Chinese company.

Epic has an agreement with Disney. Disney is contracted with SAG. SAG rules apply, simple as.

Frame gen feels like shit, AI textures look like shit, AI code runs like shit.
I don't care for American VAs in general, so I don't care if they're AI generated or not.

There's really zero reason to have voice acting in a game. If you're gonna add something do the banjo kazooie type of talking, it works.

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE GO AWAAAAAAAAAY

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE GO AWAAAAAAAAAY

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE GO AWAAAAAAAAAY

Christ

RESPECT THE WISHES OF THE ACTORS!

NO, NOT LIKE THAT! GIVE US MONEY!

And leftoids will still insist unions are the solution.

Voice actors take up way too much of game budgets and they fucking suck at their jobs.
I have literally never enjoyed a game more because it has voice acting, and I would love to see them all out of work and replaced with banjo kazooie babble noises or something.

Fuck voice actors in games, they are worse than pointless, they actively make games worse while charging a premium for it.

the solution is banning AI and a public execution for anyone who uses it

because that worked so well with guns and drugs

we shouldn't ban murder because people keep murdering every day

Guns and drugs don't murder bud
Get your retarded axiom fixed

Why'd Jack Black do it, bros?! He was just a kid!

It was in Minecraft so it's ok

people already hate AI

This isn't 2023 anymore grandpa

it's not about who murders. The point is the first step is making it ilegal

The first actor to play Romeo didn't have access to near perfect audio AI replication software back in the fucking 18th century

uoh, AIfag is having a melty again. Do you want to go to the potty?

NTA but it's not AIfags starting a meltdown over the use of generated VA (approved by the actor).

LMFAO

no

Imagine if Shakespear was the only one allowed to direct Romeo and Juliet performances. The problem here is IP law. Without it, we wouldn't be having this argument in the first place.

Only bootlickers and bucket crabs would disagree

however, we are talking about the bad reputation of AI. If you want tot alk about being approved of the author or not, that was 3 posts above mine

you might as well claim corporations can buy the rights to particular musical notes.

That's what music copyright is

That's what they want to be able to do.

Thank god for that.

Then they would have to get a real job and play Romeo as a hobby. Like everyone except for a few nepo babies with rich daddies currently do.

i dunno man. the AI voice mod for skyrim is pretty fucking funny and can get pretty lewd too.

Why are anti-ai schizos so unfun? Im not saying absolutely everything should be ai. It shouldn't, but this is some shitty kids game, and the actor is fucking dead. Apparently his family benefits from it which is what his intention is. Why should they have to go and find some shitty no name that cant do the voice? Not only that, but it entirely ruins the purpose. He's supposed to be dynamic and able to respond to anything, right? You cant do that with regular voice acting.

what you fail to understand is that i want all the left wing trannies in the industry to fail

You already got BTFO'd, most normies don't give a FUCK. If anything everyone is using AI VA to create dumb memes that get viralized. Hell, we had the whole Ghibli fad just a few weeks ago.

We hate whiny faggots. There are plenty of GOOD voice actors, but you won't see them being part of this shit because they're talented and recognizable enough to find work anywhere.

Everything that can be done by A.I. should be done by A.I. But humans should also get UBI as compensation. Why automate everything if it will not literally do the work FOR us?

Everything that can be done by A.I. should be done by A.I

This will happen

But humans should also get UBI as compensation

This won't.

we already lost anon, it's too late, surrender

you will never be a human

You're an NPC

Hypocrites forget very fucking quickly their alleged progressive ideals when it actually hurts their pockets.

Off the top of my head, L4D, Dawn of War, Vermintide and Warcraft 3 would all be far worse without voice acting.

To be fair El Cartel runs Mexico.

Fuck you i laughed

part of why i hope sag-aftra wins. i'd rather not live in a world where a company can pay a one time fee to ai clone you and use it for an eternity.
i think the big thing union members want is to be compensated for use of their voice replicas on a session by session basis.

There is no difference between using an AI voice here and using AI to voice literally every character in a video game.
If they are allowed to do one they will eventually do the other as well.

New thread

Hehe.....So nothing?

It is pretty damn funny watching you clowns go down crying and shitting yourselves without a smidgen of elegance.

You think they'll pay you instead of kill you? lol

But is it the union that wants to be paid or the person?

It will be over in 10 years considering their shit birthrate

True, but most of these games didn't spend a fortune paying some high horse actor and instead most of the VAs were cool, relatively cheap unknowns.

why do brainlets fear AI so much? if you job can be done by a stupid robot executing a bunch of "if" statements, your job isn't good in the first place

If they don’t then we’ll be killing them. The entire point of technology is to make the life of the average person easier.

not as funny as AItroons bootlicking their jewish macro companies.
Mutt law: the golem can never go against their master's wishes

but anon, the AI can do almost 90% of jobs

Holy melty

That is the crux of the issue, and why people hate the union.
To get one big name in the clique, you need to pay out the ass for someone who will probably phone it in, then get saddled with a bunch of bottom feeding shitters as part of the contract

Maybe that tells a lot about humanity.

the person, sag-aftra isn't seeking residuals in this