What kinda retards are still playing wow in 2025? I cant wait for it to die already...

What kinda retards are still playing wow in 2025? I cant wait for it to die already, this piece of shit game truly ruined MMOs

OP is retarded. WoW dying would make all other MMOs suck.

game truly ruined MMOs

other MMOs fail to sustain a healthy player count because the average MMO gamer can't quit playing WoW to go into something else instead. If something better came along, they would probably leave. But every promising release is just another poopslop Chinese MMO

the Dawntrail content drought must be real bad if this is what you guys stoop to now

Not OP but hes right, it kileld MMOs because every MMO producer tried to copy wow on a superficial level and failed so we were getting nothing but shitty wow clones for 20 years after wow came out. It literally killed the whole genre. Even old MMOs like star wars galaxies did a 180 and tried to copy WoW then died because they turned their game to shit trying to copy it. Some SWG dev was even bitching on his personal blog about how he didnt understand how wow was so popular and he thought it came down to luck.

Retail is playable and you get to fly around and get little prizes from doing world quests
Classic is as good as it always was (great) and you can join any time and play video games with new friend skins all you steam factor sare always trying to do.
It’s a good game. Sorry guys

you'd understand if you ever had cocaine before

True I'd rather play everquest and everquest clones
Unironically

New friends like* all you steam faggots always wanted to

The same reason why people still watch The Simpsons.

"But other game" by the 3rd post

lmao

OP I'm curious what exactly other MMOs are copying from World of Warcraft. Do you mean just getting more XP from quests instead of having to grind? Or the numbered system of spells which every MMO has had before?

look up an MMO that was released past 07 and tell me how it didnt copy wow. Alost all of them were copying wow. Only a few obscure games were actually doing their own thing.

youtube.com/watch?v=nvK8fua6O64&t

Almost every MMO released after WoW copied it to some extent. Whether copying its class design, or copying its combat, or copying its ability/talent system, or copying its dungeon/raid design, etc.

How were the popular mmos different before wow came around?

if you like raiding and dungeons wow is still the best in 2025 :V
just like it was the best 20 years ago :V

they were so fucking janky and grindy only neets could afford to play them.

ethereal

Balding virgins in their late 30s (me).

it's the best mmo on the market

this piece of shit game truly ruined MMOs

I’m tired of this argument. Whatever you think about WoW, the reason MMOs have struggled is because of the players. Players will always find a way to ruin these games beyond all recognition.

30+ servers for each continent, shards, instances, phasing, channels

having ten players on your screen is a screenshot worthy moment

I need 600 billion active subscribers for my 5-man hallway-dungeon matchmaking system

A minecraft server with 20 players is more active than modern WoW.

t- shitty MMO dev

it's fucking atrocious what they've done with all the layering bullshit. Everything feels so empty.

Once you play on turtleWoW, you never want to go back to blizzard slop.

WoW players are very very very afraid of PvP but that's what 99% of all online games are about. They have nowhere else to go.

as a guy who only played for a month or two back in vanilla and a bit during tbc, turtle has been pretty fun, sucks playing with euros but from the few interactions ive had with other americans i'd rather avoid the brain broken eceleb and politics obsessed freaks instead

is turtlewow solo friendly? what class should I go with, I have never played wow before

turtlewow

Not playing on a thirdie server

you'd have to group to do dungeons and some elite quests for mobs that you typically cant take down on your own, it can be avoided but i personally find that to be pretty fun and grouping with random people around you is in the spirit of playing an mmo, as for what class really just any class that looks neat to you, i like warrior and it can be a bit tough early on but still not hard enough to advise to stay away from the class

what class should I go with, I have never played wow before

Pally or Mage
consider Priest if you're not intimidated by playing a healer
consider Hunter if you're not turned off by the idea of micromanaging your pet

it's cheap entertainment unlike gacha or 80 dollaroo AAAslop

Epoch soon.

looks fine on my machine

play mmos made before wow got popular

its just a fucking grinding sim

literally nonstop grinding for hundreds of hours with one quest between the grind that people cope about being good when it was a few lines of text and a cosmetic item

people can shit on wow all they want, and it has alot of negative elements to shit on , but it did more good for this genera than it did bad.

that’s supposed to be impressive for retoilet

One month of entertainment is cheaper than a mcdonalds menu. Good deal for me

good enough. more players than that and it gets laggy. try to do the nightfall event in hallowfall when there's 100-200 players. it's a nightmare

Some SWG dev was even bitching on his personal blog about how he didnt understand how wow was so popular and he thought it came down to luck.

While luck certainly played a role the simple fact of the matter is that WoW played better than every MMO before it.

not playing an RP server that has zero layering

lol, lmao even. Are there people that actually play on non-RP servers these days besides all the Mexicans on Area 52? Crazy

All that existed before wow though.

plays korean mmos made for worker bugs

wonders why they're so grindy

rp

Sorry I’m not a gay furry

What the fuck else am I supposed to play? Maplestory Classic isn't out yet and neither is Blue Protocol Chink edition. I'm stuck with fucking nothing.

We gonna pretend that Anarchy Online or SWG weren’t grindy as fuck, to say nothing of EverQuest?

See that mob? Kill it a thousand times before you can move on to the next mob.

Rinse and repeat till level cap.

Because they had Warcraft 3 and StarCraft hype and I think they copied EverQuest word for word basically so it got all the old EQfags as well as any other mmo game. Blizzard had so much fucking money I think they are the feds honestly.

Name a non wow MMO that wasn't a grindfest

even wow was grindy in endgame but most people were ultra casual so they never got to that point.

retail

barbie doll dress up single player chore simulator

Vanilla and TBC are objectively the best versions of WoW. I used to think Wrath was too but ive come around to the fact that Ulduar was the top of the hill and everything after it was a downhill slope gameplay quality wise.

you didnt need to grind to get to endgame though, it felt like an actual adventure, which is what peopel have been wanting out of MMOs ever since the MUD era

>barbie doll dress up single player chore simulator

Sounds like a you problem

The people I know who play WoW are typically professionals or super lazy people. They want a game where you put in 0 thought and can just get dopamine from doing challenges for mounts, achievements and transmogs. There is also a really big niche for people who are disabled, especially with the new auto-combat feature coming.

To be honest I get it. Not every game has to be complex or hard. Its basically farmville but fantasy. I don't think anyone hates WoW, they hate that there is no WoW-like game which reached its full potential as a immersive world, which is a failure that other MMOs devs have rather than Blizzard. They evolved their game into what their playerbase wanted.

Sorry OP, but retail is based, so I'm gonna keep playing it!

this piece of shit game truly ruined MMOs

How, by adding shit to actually do other than grind the same open world mobs for 50,000 hours?

wraith was when they started gutting the leveling difficulty so I will never forgive them.

You can do 99% of the content without interacting with another human. If you dont log on daily you fall behind from not doing your chores. Nevermind THE MOGS MOUNTS CHEEVOS cancer.

You can do 99% of the content without interacting with another human.

Oh so you're just retarded, ok

This retarded post

90% of WoW's development time and budget goes into raids and dungeons, shit you do with other people.

It’s been dead since 2006 anon.

What the fuck are you saying? Did you have a stroke mid post or something? Blizzdrones really are special ed

trying to argue with WoWfags

They don't play other MMORPGs. They have been playing nothing but WoW for 20+ years.

It's 20 years later, with way more powerful hardware and fast as fuck internet and no one still can't make a smooth mmo combat system like wow.

Every time on new MMOs it's jank as fuck and you only get like 8 abilities.

haha hey bro here's LFR it's a higher ilvl than last tier's M+, the mechanics are basically visual only a renew and rejuve will keep you alive thru them. No need to speak to another person in there either. We might just replace them with the bots from 5 mans before long anyway

LFD won't pop? Oh ok heres 4 unkillable bots to carry you thru 5 man content

oh you like doing m+ lol why bro we ate gonna put that gear in LFR next tier anyway

but wait you wasting your time on m+ keeps our MAUs up and it looks good for our shareholders

so hop on that treadmill for a few months to get gear that will be completely invalidates by LFR next tier haha thanks

game's too hard heres a literal built in rotation that's a 25% damage increase from the autistic flailing you were doing

thanks for enjoying our single player visual novel that used to be an MMO

Keep crying you pathetic faggot OP,
WoW will forever be the king of MMO's
LC won
youtu.be/h4feN0JDchU?si=ZFJpOCnJtxgPJauu

What's your alternative? Grind MMOs died for a reason

You guys need to face facts. Modern WoW is an overdesigned mess that promotes quasi-single player and actual single player mentality at nearly every turn.

M+ is a very small subset of the population. Guilds doing raids are just as small if not smaller. The overwhelming majority of retail WoW players play without ever interacting with another person. It may as well be Fallout or Skyrim. The glory days are long gone. Those of us that broke away from retail had to face that realization and it wasnt easy to accept. The sooner you confront it, the better off you'll be.

If youre dead set on playing WoW, play a better version of it. Era, Anniversary, Classic. Hell even SoD still has SOME appeal even for the novelty.

The better option is to start breaking away from MMOs entirely. All of us are or were addicts. Decades lost to one game. Almost 20 years of gaming is a near mystery to me because WoW eclipsed EVERYTHING else. There wasn't time to play other games while being buried in it.

You've got years and years of backlog you can explore.

You've got years and years of backlog you can explore.

But none of them scratch that itch like a wow clone MMO does

shit you do with other people.

Playing with others =/= non-solo experience. You could quite easily replace dungeon/raid players with bots and it would be 1:1 identical.

That's addiction for you. Nothing will ever perfectly scratch that itch. But the alternative is letting the addiction keep destroying you. In WoW's case it's essentially psychological torture.