Oooof

grim gameplay

biggest franchise that created an entire genre and pushed tech for multiple decades

not a big franchise

I mean yeah, and no.
I want to play this but I'm not spending $400 plus tip just to spend $80 more.

What went so wrong?

damn finally an eternal webm with good quality, people don't understand they need to fucking lower the resolution

they put 3 fucking hours of cutscene in a doom game.

HOLY FLOP

HOLY FLOP

HOLY FLOP

HOLY FLOP

HOLY FLOP

HOLY FLOP

gamepass barely counts. how many of these players picked up the game played for an hour and never touched it again.2.19 milly?

3 BILLION PLAYERS

how many of these players picked up the game played for an hour and never touched it again

tbf that's most people who buy games as well

They could easily refuse to be on Game Pass.

what is this trash
both games suck

Doom TDA is a bad game but not because it's 17 hours long
In fact, some of the best games ever made are around 15 hours long, like the original Resident Evil 4 for example

it's bad because... IT JUST LE IS, OKAY?

The Armored Core 4 of Doom games

People don't know how to encode properly here
I still see retards encoding in vp8 when there's absolutely no reason to do it anymore now that h264 is supported if you want fast encoding and vp8 looks like dogshit

This looks like one of those parody images of modern fps games from 2010's except it's an actual videogame and it gets shilled nonstop in here.

nigga nobody knows or cares what that shit means

Literally no one played Redfall.

I understand putting old games on gamepass, but how do you justify putting brand new ones on it? Surely you lose massive amounts of money doing this?

Yes zoomie, those were made as a comical parody of nuDoom.

You do realize Microsoft competes with Sony and Steam?

It gives people a reason to stay subscribed, so Mucrosoft can go to investors and say "look at these reliable sources of income we can advertise too and broker analytics off of" and the investors do the little chair dance and throw coins in the air and give microsoft more money

They are owned by Microsoft

Oblivion Remastered also had a massive amount of gamepass players, a little under 50%. Makes sense that percentage will increase every new release

Gamepass is good right now because it's young and still trying to attract a bigger audience.
Give it a couple years and it'll be absolute shit and it'll cost twice as much.

comparing modest budget movie slop to $300 million minumum game slop

It wouldn't be as much of a problem if retard execs didn't demand for higher and more un-recoupable development costs

Shut up retard

M$/Phil are betting on the long-term for sub-zombies who never leave.
How long M$ will keep entertaining the "growth period" is unknown though. I expect they'll downsize Xbox to being a license for other companies hardware soon, and then eventually just a software publisher.

Netflix movies have a ridiculous budget too bro

The longterm success of these games is going to be people double dipping.
Playing first on gamepass then a year or two later seeing the game on Steam for $30-40 and going, "I liked that. I should pick it up."

Is green supposed to be gamepass?

Is this doom or nu-quake?

Yes

modest budget movie slop

the market is rejecting $80 dollar games

untill gta comes out of course

Need new big name titles on gamepass to get people to subscribe. Same reason forza is on gamepass.

no its xbox premium

noooo Microsoft’s business model can’t just be working nooooooo

switch 2 sales say different, poorfag

Is the red on top of gamepass the actual copies sold on Xbox?

GTA could sell for $80 and people would buy it
Elder Scrolls 6 and Elden Ring 2 could probably sell for $80 and people would buy it
I don't think any other games could justify that price point for most people

nintendorks are not human
also the switch 2 is not out, you cant say the game sales arent going to take a giant hit yet

GAME DOES WELL ON GAMEPASS

The thing is, you have no idea how well it did. What does it mean to be a "player" of Doom Dark Ages? You downloaded and booted it up. How long did you play? How much did you like it?
All it says is you have gamepass access and gave it a try. There are hundreds of retarded mobile games with millions of downloads who purport the same bullshit, that they have millions interested in the game.

Pretty sure netflix uses their big budget shit to launder money through. There's no way anyone with a financial degree would approve that if it was legit

He thinks Goypass is saving studios

OH NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

everyone playing on the Xbox ecosystem

This is their goal

doom is $70

Anyone else notice how AAA companies have started using “players” instead of sales?

this game is s o y personified. final boss fights sucked dick.

Doesn’t matter if you played it for 1 second or 40 hours on gamepass Microsoft got their money

these player numbers are just the psnprofiles users but it seems pretty conclusive even with only a small part of the total players.

Doom is manly. Sissy shit like radhan is soi

The raytracing meme killed doom

The Armored Core 4 of Doom games

you shut your fucking heathen bitch mouth

Man, that game was fun.
We really did not need another doom game after Id Studio dropped. I could had gone for a new IP.

You cocksuckers are playing Marvel Rivals, your opinion is fucking worthless.
Go back to seething to a twitter screencap thread and then kill yourselves.

Heh

No shit? The entire point is to encourage gamers to switch to GamePass, a platform Xbox controls and can monetize however they like. Why on earth would you create a service like GamePass if you didn't want people to use it?

Tango and Arkane Austin weren't just shutdown because their games were flops, but because the studios were internally in chaos. Consider that Hellblade 2 sold precisely zero copies and Microsoft STILL kept Ninja Theory around. That's because they deliver games on a consistent schedule and they provide value as a state-of-the-art mocap studio that rents their setup out to other businesses.

idSoft owns valuable IPs, delivers games on a good cadence, and is one of the most technically proficient devs in the business that other Microsoft studios like Bethesda lean on for technical know how. Even if Dark Ages was a flop, it'd be retarded to can them over it.

Their business model is their problem not mine. If the product is worth paying money for then I do.

Is AC4 good? New to the series.
Also that might be a compliment depending on the context. Eternal is fun, it's just that eastern europe has not caught up yet. They are just now trying Doom 2016 reason why the fanbase of that game spiked recently.

this would be like if 360 quickscoping on Rust in MW2 was the intended campaign experience by the developers

$70-90 price tag

previous were a soft $60

surprised everyone went goypass

Well reaching that that fast is something.
Honestly if my dad didnt DooMpilled when I was 10 I don’t think I be willing spending $80 on a game even if I play it for 100 hours, I probably take the goypass

Boss fights in FPS games are basically never good, they should've stuck to big encounter featuring new enemy like the Doom Hunters. The Icon itself was okay except for the specific way its enemy spawns worked. Small pools that rerolled per attempt just felt bad. Every other boss fight was so shit that I'm pretty sure it was a completely different person who designed them compared to the regular fights.

Even if Dark Ages was a flop, it'd be retarded to can them over it.

Sounds like a Microsoft thing to do or keep around like Rare which still work on the same game for 15 years now.

Except Doom is a Microsoft first-party game. Microsoft gets all of the revenue from Game Pass. Microsoft probably doesn't care that much about sales metrics as long as they can promote Game Pass.

3 million players

Where did I see that cope argument before?.... sounds oddly familiar

God eternal such a departure of doom gameplay wise . It’s just overwatch hero shooter cool down and 420 quick scope BING BING WAHOO autism.

this doesn't make sense. I don't think every single Triple A game released this year has been bad but they're all selling like dogshit.

Triple A $70 games dont work when everyone is poor.

Small pools that rerolled per attempt just felt bad.

That is how it worked in Doom 2 and I am glad the Pain Elemental was still an asshole in Eternal.
Redguy is not that bad as a fight and it sure is better than the piece of shit that was Davoth but it is the ONLY boss fight. It would be like playing Dark Souls 2 but the only Boss in the game is the Pursuer.

Anything with platforming and all three dimensional axes would do that.

Most of the time it plays like TF2, the hammer is bing bing wahooo overwatch autism.

GamePass costs money they removed the $1 trial shit when they brought in CoD.

That's why there's gamepass

wow big success!!!

No, it's fuking not, but it worked for some time for investors

They didn't make real Doom games.

Gamepass is good right now because it's young and still trying to attract a bigger audience.

That period ended shortly before they had the first price hike; they began to bleed the games they used to attract people into their subscription. It's absolute shit now.

Microsoft gets all of the revenue from Game Pass.

Yeah, but it's clearly not selling; you merely have players in there and they must be due GP which is the opposite of a purchase. Unless the newest nudoom is filled to the brim with microtransactions to get money out of their players, because they certainly aren't buying it, just playing it

Doom fatigue. There's a reason 3 was a completely different game. Up until Half Life and UT, FPS games were known as Doom clones, and they were a dime a dozen, people were tired of the genre until the XBOX generation made them popular again with COD.

No, the Doom 2 Icon could spawn anything except bosses. The Eternal Icon has a couple of fixed enemy pools and you get one of those pools per attempt. Those are the only enemies you'll see for the entire attempt, but if you die then it rerolls. It feels like shit because one attempt might shit mancubi and cybermancubi all over you faster than you can get blood punches back and then another gives you some chump shit that's trivial to deal with.

No, you are not supposed to notice the recession because leftists want to still rob you blind and Anon Babble seethes if you point out the orangutan in charge is a fucking moron making things worse.

smooth as fuck

Jeet is already not impressed on spending on gamepass, that's why he pushes AI in development, and probably we will see even more layoffs

This game kinda sux ngl

when did they start allowing h264?
I never know when shit like this gets updated. I think this is the first time I noticed someone's post has a .mp4 instead of .webm
Also I could swear the file size limit was 3MB but I guess it's more now? Is it 4? where can I read about any of these rules

ADHD.mp4

all the retards saying gamepass isnt a flop

if it was successful they wouldn't put their games on playstation lol

Nope, anything with cooldowns and platforming. Getting the High ground isn’t
The issue

The “weak points” was cool but really became out the square goes in the square hole bs.

Hammer didn’t help. “ okay uhhh you hit the weakpoint BING then combo this then make sure grenade the caco BING then combo BING oops! Don’t forget to chainsaw! make sure you icebomb isn’t in cooldown then combo …chainsaw oh wait it’s still on cooldown so hammer BING BING BING….yup this is just like classic doom!”

I didn’t realize how low the demon numbers were until some YouTube broke down the spawning. I give it credit, when your in the fight it has that intensity and going demon from demon fun. But it’s like a forced mimicry or recreation of the feeling.

so they sold under a million copies?

mancubi and cybermancubi

Bro, your turret?
In the last stage, the enemies do rotate a bit.
I could have sworn they also rotate in the first stage.

Why are people going gsmerpsss I thought people want to own games not rent

>MOVIE DOES WELL ON NETFLIX

movies don't cost as much to make as AAA games do

The “weak points” was cool but really became out the square goes in the square hole bs.

You could ignore them because you can shit out so much damage that they barely matter.

It's absolute shit now.

Oblivion
Doom
Clair Obscur
Black Ops 6
Indiana Jones
Atomfall

Last 6 months have been amazing for gamepass.

It's cheaper

uhmmm gamepass is bad because uhhhh the multi trillion dollar company might not make a profit for two or three games uhhhh it doesnt matter that i can play it for $10 and its a great deal for me what matters is how much the companies make!!!!!!

when did they start allowing h264?

Months ago, maybe even a year, can't remember when exactly

I never know when shit like this gets updated

Also I could swear the file size limit was 3MB but I guess it's more now? Is it 4? where can I read about any of these rules

Nowhere. One of the thing I hate the most about Anon Babble is the complete lack of communication or transparency from the admins
But yeah, there is literally no reason to use vp8 now

Bullshit chart, snoy always leads in sales

there's games that I want to own, so I buy, and there's games that I don't mind renting, so I play on gamepass

Only one good out of 6

That only good game was even an reskin of an older title

It's not the flex you think it is.

the latest netflix slop has a 100m higher budget than tlou 2

10 hour game I'll play through once

I can rent it for $10 or buy it for $80

And if I rent it and really want to play it again for some reason I can buy it on sale in 2 years for $4.99

i absolutely NEED to "own" this 15 hour digital game and buy it for $80 becaaaaaaause welll paying $10 to play through it in 3 days is bad you know because it just is okay!!!!

List your top 3 games of the last year

How do developers even get money from gamepass?
How is this calculated?

I didn’t realize how low the demon numbers were

Credit were is due the enemy scripting in Eternal is stellar to the point enemy placing makes a world of difference.
I really had hoped Dark Ages would had at least increased the enemy count per level but it is about the same but the game is way too easy and it does not feel right.

yup this is just like classic doom!

Doom 2016 revitalized FPS and created the Boomer Shooter genre and even those games still do not feel like current 2025 Doom. I don-t think there is a boomer shooter that does slaughtermaps but I might not know of it.
Eternal and Ultrakill were developed in parallel with the intent to move the genre forward and both came to the same conclusions for different reasons.

If Serious Sam 4 does hundreds of mobs but even then it does not have a level design to put on par with Doom slaughtermaps.
If I was to criticize Eternal level design for its merits is that the game does not have the flow of something like Arcane Dimensions that effortlessly connect the level pieces in a way you feel you are exploring an environment, which I would believe would be the evolution to its current state and it is possible given the tools we were given.
If anything since Dark Ages sucks I am more inclined to keep playing Eternal in the meanwhile.

playing modern games

Stop projecting

Balatro
Stellar Blade
Infinite Wealth

Okay so there is nothing that could satisfy you and you're just a retard arguing for no reason. Got it.

You could but , you have slow ammo it was a waste to just hammer way. You hit them regardless but it’s “sub optimal”. Game build around it.

In doom"s case they are owned by gamepass

Balatro is on gamepass
Ninja Gaiden 2 while you wait for Stellar Blade on PC
Every Yakuza game was on gamepass at some point but they're all gone now sadly

I like TDA’s loop more.
I hope they increase the sliders limit to like 500% make it impossible to play against. That would be cool.

Investors see numbers and then they are told is like Netflix, they think "oh Netflix Gud" and they keep giving money to Microsoft.
This continues until a financial bubble pops and financial records show that companies and banks have been lending money among themselves all this time showing there was never a profit.

This is entirely false.

They get a lump sum of a few million dollars and any extra income from the premium editions that nobody buys
There were leaks a while ago about what Microsoft paid for each game and GTA V was the highest by far

so there is nothing that could satisfy you and you're just a retard arguing for no reason

Select titles from the gen 7 and the vast majority of gen 6 and before. Last year I played the dishwasher games; neat titles.

Good for you Mario.

They lost the strong identity they had in 2016
To put that another way, they stopped making DOOM games and tried to make something else instead

Big name AAA game in one of the most influential game series of all time

Random comfy RPG for children

Dark ages feels better, feels like a gzdoom doom mod. Each their own doom.

Will gaming ever be free from memegames?

real casuals thinking games aren't for children, once again, BTFO

When will they learn? Graphics and explicit stuff doesn't make a game mature.

I hate reading back what I posted and catching all the mistakes.
There is still a chance Dark Ages is fixed and gets the same treatment as Eternal but even then the level design sucks shit.

I mean I did play it on Ultra Nightmare and can tell you that it's not always about weakpoints.

Funny, they had to real-time patch the harder difficulties because they were too easy

Dark Ages clicked for me around Siege Part 1 and I think it's genuinely a really solid game.
But I gotta say, Eternal was better.

Im playing it via pass right now and Im having fun

But whoever came up with the idea of selling it for 80 fucking euro (90 dollar) needs to get fisted with an excavator

last night they increased the damage you take in UV and Nightmare
they also changed the one-shot protection, so you die with much more HP

It feels like a Heretic reboot but it isn't because the game does not lean hard enough on melee and magic while the actual weapons feel about the same. The map design is insultingly simple even for NuDoom standards.
Parrying does not feel good as it does in Ultrakill and the way it works is that you can only parry certain projectiles like in Cuphead and these look like shit from a FPS perspective.

And level design in Heretic and Rekkr is vastly superior to anything in Dark Ages.

levels are fine.
Majority of em feel like what mapper would do especially the last level that def a doom map how boxy and interconnected it all is, issue for me is aesthetics, its a weird middle child of quake and doom. Eternal has better art and music.

I do wish they had more gimmicks like the later half of eviternity 2. Its fun seeing mappers push the engine and creative limits.

Schedule 1
Space Marine 2
Factorio: Space Age
Helldivers 2 released 1 year and two months ago

Why did they focus on the "lore" again?

I never played heritic besides accidnetly downloading it on skulltag, got lost, enabled cheats and fucked around for 30 minutes. But ill take your word for it.

I was hoping it didnt lean too much in melee and magic, I went in expecting it and hating idea of parry cuz i cant stand soul games. But enjoyed this, it just a mod gimmick not the main course as it should be in any doom mod. I feel if it did would overshadow the shooting aspects of doom.

Its just moveable weakpoint, i dont mind it.

cuz they want to fucking set up god heretic, quake and other games. oh well.

I hope next one is strife. fuck you.

They literally just make shit up

Doom the Dark Ages is just Doom 3: 2

They never will learn, huh

Microsoft 100% fully funds the development of the game so I don't get the point being made here.

steam, a platform known for its users being cheap fucks who only buy discounted games

playstation, a platform whose userbase is so retarded they only play third-person cinematic "games"

xbox, a platform known for its userbase that loves fps and shooters, has game pass, and the most players

i don't see anything wrong here

Doom the Dark Ages is just Doom 3: 2

Right on the money perfect. Hope it filters the casuals and autists leechers, just like when Doom 3 did

Except Doom 3 was good, just a bad Doom game for following trends of the time. This doesn't even follow a trend of the time and an average title, again

Not anymore it isn't. Get woke, go broke.

xbox, a platform known for its userbase that loves fps and shooters, has game pass, and the most players

That xbox is long gone, xbox userbase isn't know for anything anymore since the brand has no identity or direction

quake 3 went woke ever since never recovered
Doom 3 dlc was the final nail in the coffin.

M$ wants a Gears/Halo replacement

Hi-Fi Rush and Redfall prove there is a certain sales metric they have to reach.

You dumbass. They weren't canned because of sales, they were canned for downsizing and being in pre-production of the sequel, thus "not having their hands occupied" and considered expendable.

This looks like quake 3 with no friendly rocket damage combined with looter shooters. I'm glad I don't play videogames any longer.

You do understand that selling a game for $7 is not as good as selling it for $70, right?

this clip was disastrous for its outlook

people don't understand they need to fucking lower the resolution

Surely resolution is the only way of measuring quality?!

My first thought.

Modern gaming is such a fucking joke.

Unrecognizable, no Doom left in this.

What do you think the "GAME PASS" in the green bar stands for?

Are we ready to admit Doom 3 was the best game yet?

Elder Scrolls 6

I'm very curios to find out how much damage Starfield (with some additional work from Fallout 76) has done to Beth's reputation.

Services like gamepass are exactly why businesses are pushing the whole "player engagement" angle rather than raw sales. It's hard to justify things like gamepass to investors so you have to present other big numbers.

STOP NOTICING PATTERNS GOY

GTA 6 could sell for 100 dollars base and people would still buy it. That game is in a whole class of its own. Still won't stop other companies from trying to copy it and failing miserably.

Not that guy, but AC4 is the most spastic twitchy anime bullshit out of all AC games, you die in a second if you stop moving and you have a shitton of energy so you're supposed to boost and fly around everylike like you're Goku. It is fun, but it's gonna turn some people off.

This is Anon Babble there is a pretty good chance he doesn't

They might distribute parts of your gameass payments based on your playtime each month. I think they are calculating its profitability based on the assumption that Gamepass doesn't actually lead to many lost sales at least that's what they used to claim way back when..

GTA 6 could sell for 100 dollars base

*will

S&ASRT

Tekken Tag 2

La Mulana

ever since 2016, never could recover.

Glory kill nonsesne killed doom

Game pass leads to more game sales

Didn't they do a full 180° some time later?

they should've shown the pinky rider or revenant.

Also fuck them for backing out making it Vagray female with saggy witch tits. Literally unplayable and woke making it a spider dude.

microsoft to customers: hey sign up for this service to play this game

*people oblige*

microsoft to dev: hey no one bought the game, you're fired

this is the most microsoft thing ever

No idea really.
@38:12
youtu.be/qBHIalb01ew?si=DXOVT9Xh63lYSul0&t=2292

Make sure you post another one of these in the next Doom thread.
I love watching these stone-age boomers seethe.

I enjoyed it, gameplay is more fun that i thought.
eternal was more colorful, i really wanted super gore nest level.

I'm happy my favorite hyper fixation game getting content. So glad I latched on doom instead of silent hill, ape escape Jak and Daxter, or quake.

Ffs post a different clip. This game can get really wild if you want it.

Maybe a bit. But i just love the art direction of dark ages so much. I like replaying levels just so i can look at them.

so wild

Imagine being you.
im sure glad i actually like having fun with games

Oh now, wtf is this crap

looks miles better than eternal's miserable bosses

That boss fight was pretty easy. The last stage of it was maybe a bit hard.

its KINO

HOLY SHIT SO SKILLFULL

Yeah, but this shit was fun as fuck to play. The 3 major boss fights at the end were my favorite parts.
And whoever is playing this is playing on normal or easier. The Projectile speed is higher on UV and Nightmare, which makes for a really fun fight.

just giving the players infinite ammo would be better than this gay rainbow pinata system

this also looks better than any of the bosses in eternal
you're actually attacking the boss the whole time, never just sitting there waiting for it to do the thing that lets you hurt it, never having to break off entirely to go kill some worthless trash mobs to refill ammo, just engaging in a straight fight

you haven't played nu-doom if that's what you think

I mean why would you buy just an okay 15 hour game if you already have Gamepass?

What other games flopped in 2025? Did we have any return to form besides AC Shadows?

I died a bunch to this guy. Good final boss. Way better than eternal

I wish we'd stop pretending we know how GamePass works.

Since Bethesda literally works at MS they probably get revenue out the ass.

I think cuz its interactive, it more fun than myker.
I like his other fight with the witch more.

I pray for those who missed a parry on ther UN run

paypigs

Shadows had no retention.

I pray for those who missed a parry on ther UN run

You can adjust the sliders on UN to make it as easy as Aspiring Slayer
You still get the golden armor

I’m replaying 2016 and holy shit is the tone night and day from this and Dark Ages

Just remember: up until the final year, if not final months, of development, Hayden was planned to be a nerdy comedic science character chiming in the background like so many other fucking games until they settled on the straightlaced extremist with the deep voice that gets his comedy off of Doomguy's willing ignorance of his orders.

...okay dont be mad but i forgot about the sliders. If i lose 2 of my runs i may fuck with the sliders

You break it, you buy it.

Eh, there no real point if you mess with the sliders, IMO. I was just mentioning it because there's already a lot of fibbers posting their Ultra-Nightmare-Made-Easy clears to boost their e-peen.

maybe, im still working on my pan run. So far the only problem are nightmare imps. Those fuckers made me reset 3 times, twice in forest and once at end of siege part 2 climbing that one wall.

Turns out requiring people to have new hardware during a time of economic decline is kinda retarded. The game is great, though. I think it's just as frantic as Doom Eternal.

I never thought i love something more than the meathook but that shield feels so good.

Shame he gonna lose it.

constantly flying

constantly switching weapons

doomguy must look fucking retarded from the demons' perspective

I just imagine he looks like a flying human blur before whatever's in his path explodes into blood and then the armored death squirrel with guns comes flying for them too.

Good luck. I'm just an UV enjoyer myself across all the games. I just don't agree with lower value HP packs and Armor pick-ups to find Nightmare and up a fair challenge for my skill level.

According to v probably every game

I also a UV enjoyer, UN is kicking my ass but having fun adapting. Nightmare imps are mortal enemies putting you in 1 shot

Is this the first example of dogshit pricing claiming its first AAA victim?
Like, no-one wants this game not because it sucks but because it runs like shit and it costs you $70 for the priviledge?

aight bro i cant defend this one. the yellow piss walls are unforgivable

its the worst boss, the mini bosses were better

idk I'm thinking more along the line of christian bale's equilibrium nonsense, but with added spring boots

God eternal such a departure of doom gameplay wise

Sure is, hence why it's widely regarded as the best one.

yup and those people are wrong.

a doom fan? yup.
Same, but with doom games mostly.

Maybe you know your game is shit and will struggle to sell for full price. So you throw it on game pass that way instead having to admit it flopped you can say "three gorillion players... massive success!"

Glory kill was a mistake.
Glad got rid of them

I miss them.

They got rid of it with slow down shield bashing.

You say that as if people who buy games don't do that shit too lmao

Faster than glory kill and no i frames, an improvement

I would be lying i felt that too but it got out of hand. I wouldnt mind if it was on the back , just to say FUCK you the demon giving you shit.

game tells me to pick which melee i like best

hmm do i want the one that does no damage but has 5 charges

oh wait do i want the one that does a little more damage but recharges slower with 3 charges?

oh nvm theres one that just instakills every enemy and theres melee refills everywhere in the fucking game

Faster than glory kill

It's not

Penetrator Nails are still perforating his skull during the cutscene

Alright, that is pretty fucking cool.

I still hate the UI and the World of Warcraft colors.

its already making them billions, they dont care about sales, they want everyone on goypiss

ESTIMATES

Oooof

>oh nvm theres one that just instakills every enemy and theres melee refills everywhere in the fucking game

It is so fucking busted if you pair it with weapons like the Impaler that restore melee.

doom if 2hu

Hmmm

Cute dumb anon

reminder, Doom Eternal only sold as well as it did because of Covid and because it pissed off trannies which led to normies believing it was some kind of super anti-woke game

1 second is faster than 2 seconds anon

The demon HR lady was funny though

hope she gets railed by her hell knight bf

i can make up random shit too

gauntlet is better for everyday use cuz you can combo with them.
Only take out the last one agaisnt bosses.

mace is useless besides getting armor.

But that means that people pay less for your game.
I mean, I doubt that the studios will get the same ammount of earnings than if they'd sell the whole game instead of renting it.

She'll never go back to him after she experiences the Sentinel Hammer

Mace looks the coolest

yeah, it does. i give you that.

Notice how they can't actually give any real reason? It's just buzzwords or non-arguments. At most, it's just

TOOOO FAAAAST!

which is unironically just coping over being unable to keep up with an FPS game (very sad). Boomers are truly in shambles and zoomers have won.

honestly surprised how much discussion this game has caused here, didnt think Anon Babble would give much of a fuck in general.

would you rather have $7 for someone to play your game or $80?
the theory is MORE people will pay $7, but you need 11x as many players to match 1 full priced player
It's a lovely fantasy but rarely proven to be worthwhile for anyone but tiny studios with no marketing

low ammo and cooldown centric resourse managment (oh yeah thats toootallly doom brooo)

red yellow green light tier gameplay with the weakpoint, falter, stun, glorykill, dont forget to set them on fire. (you feed those cacos anon!)

""""quick switching"""""" centric instead of run and gunning

bing

bing

wahoo

Notice how sloppers just ignore reasons.

Hi-Fi rush proves you're a grade school reject who can't come to conclusions properly.
The studio sold more than Microsoft was expecting for a stealth shadow drop, and the fact of the matter is they had no irons left in the fire. Microsoft makes money by buying studios/publishers and their subsidiaries up for IPs to milk, specifically for their projects already years into development and close to launch, and then shutters them after it launches so they don't need to spend any of the profits on something pesky like 8-10 years dev time, and then they auction off the IPs with value unless they're AAA games.

Which is why Hi-Fi rush was sold out to another developer.
This is Microsoft enacting the maximum amount of profit squeezing they can, barring a Minecraft level of success they have no reason to keep a game studio alive that has nothing ready to release any quarter soon.

Shut your slutty mouth anon or im gonna stuff it for you...

Yeah, that's the fun stuff.
Hugo Martin even said that everyone just used the SS as the solution to everything in 2016, and he said that was unintended and bad. With Eternal, he wanted the player to switch between all of the weapons. And he was right. That was more fun.

>low ammo and cooldown centric resourse managment (oh yeah thats toootallly doom brooo)

doesnt explain how this is bad

>red yellow green light tier gameplay with the weakpoint, falter, stun, glorykill, dont forget to set them on fire. (you feed those cacos anon!)

doesnt explain how this is bad

>""""quick switching"""""" centric instead of run and gunning

not actually true

>bing

>bing

>wahoo

not even an argument

Do boomers really? Geriatric type response lol.

Doom Eternal only did well because it appealed to audiences

Still mad that Concord failed huh?

It’s not doom
Its not doom
It’s not doom
Hope you enjoy fisher price onions game
Trading doom pillars for cheap tricks do zoomers really?

sonyGODS dont give a fuck about xbox trash'

holy based

It’s not doom

It says DOOM right on the tin, tho.
id also calls it DOOM.
Seems like it's DOOM to me.

I’ve bought a few games off game pass when they take the games off
Some of the good ones got taken off and put back on their like Enter
the Gungeon

2016 was a mistake. Fucking awful, lesson learned. Better to have your favorite die than turn in to this slop. Enjoy your shitty mario

Tell that to prey lol.

You sound like you're crying as you type all this lol.

i-its not doom...

ITS NOT DOOM ITS NOT DOOM ITS NOT DOOM!!!!!

ITS NOT DOOM BECAUSE... BECAUSE I SAID IT ISN'T, OKAY!???!??

Doom Eternal won. Everyone agrees it's Doom and its good. You lost LMAO

it’s game pass, therefore it doesn’t count

Nice cope snoys.

It demolished any PlayStation game, Kek.

lol imagining shit now? what’s wrong you haven’t fried your dopamine sensors or overstimulated your prostate? Dawww poor zoom zoom

I forgot how fun Doom 3 BFG is, at least it feels like a fucking FPS game. Is the Lost Mission stuff any good? I never actually played it.

I will, thanks. This shit is hella fun.
youtube.com/watch?v=72S2aAxtZOs

DOOM Eternal shat the bed pretty hard. Not in terms of sales numbers but instead it made 80% of the enemies bullet sponges on every difficulty unless you did mini-game mechanics when killing them. Then you had a couple that were 100% unkillable without playing their bullshit mini-game.
The result was a game where you were juggling weapons and systems instead of just focusing on blasting demons with weaponry you enjoy using.
So, a lot of people who got Eternal just couldn't give a shit to finish it and all hype for future games were essentially killed to them.

after sinking 30 hours come to conclusion to the truth.

Loved those 160 hours but man this feels nice. Was hoping to see UAC, like you warped in to the another dimension's lab for a level. I love UAC stuff.

DOOM Eternal has a higher clear rate than 2016.

FUCK CHAINGUNNERS WHY DO THEY HAVE SHIELDS

Nobody cares about "owning" games except millennial redditors who imagine themselves reselling every game they buy like it's 1997 and video games increase in value like beanie babies
It's 2025, if you want a game without paying you just pirate it. It doesn't matter who has the "rights" or the "license" and nobody's out here buying your used cartridges

I think Xbox fags are too conditioned to only play games if they're on gay pass.

It’s not doom

Its not doom

It’s not doom

ACFA is considered the stronger entry of that generation. AC4 was received poorly but I prefer it desu. The soundtrack is iconic and has much better voice acting, and I feel the customization is a touch better on AC4 than FA.

fake frames, ray tracing and unavailable $1k gpus reaching normie meme tier status isn't helping either

I think full-price games are mostly done for. All the most popular and highest-grossing games are cheap, free, or already released years ago (and are thus cheap or free).
like, why drop $80 or whatever on shitty Civ 7 when I can just play Civ 5 some more?
The game industry has matured but that means it now has to compete with its past self - which made better games, at a lower price.
Gamepass is just a recognition of reality, that nobody's buying this shit at the listed price, so we might as well get players to TRY our games and get them interested in spending more money later.

REMINDER THAT NVIDIA WILL WITHOLD SALES NUMBERS UNTIL A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF 5060 8GB HAVE BEEN BOUGHT FOR PREBUILTS IN ORDER TO HIDE HOW OBSCENELY BAD THE CARD AND THEIR CENSORSHIP HAS BEEN

I don't really know what you're referring to but I don't think it's a secret that a card launching in 2025 labeled "8GB" is shit lol

Eternal did 80k on steam during covid peak.

60 dollar game, and steam takes 30% plus VAT, then you play VAT again for the remainder of your own proceeds. So you are left with 30-40 usd.

Now, I don't know how much a 1st worlder buying a game pass for TDA generates, but the fact they don't pay a 30%+VAT already makes it HUGE for Microsoft. The game was also cheaper to make than Eternal thanks to dynamic rendering. On top of that it got a 30k peak during the period the game cost 120 dollars. Ofc steam again takes a HUGE cut from that, but that means the effective peak was maybe 50-60k, on top of that you add gamepass and it's pretty clear the game is as big as Doom Eternal during peak covid or frankly, bigger.

About the follow up to probably the best fps in ten years?

release a physical disk with Doom printed on it

it doesn't have any data on disk

people play it on gamepass instead

Why no one buying our game?

I hate how we have TECHNOLOGY and snow does not melt under all the lasers and fire

Anon Babble loves doom 2016/eternal, this also means Anon Babble hates them and seethes about them constantly as well, because Anon Babble is tsundere

hmm zortch was fun. I really like the new doom gameplay loop. I mostly play fps, forced to play multiplayer slop.

That's rich when those drop people were harping on it, calling it casual and some mind numbing words.

most ppl posting salesfag shitthreads dont even play the game. most people think you can jump in the game and think every enemy is like that tutorial for parrying enemy.

had someone in discord trying to argue

ugh doom is about dodge not blocking!

should've post snark gif instead of correcting them

most people think you can jump in the game

cant*

on nightmare you can block 1 or 2 shots before your shield breaks.

Because they're money laundering schemes

Nobody cares about "owning" games

t.

Nvidia is unintentionally slowly killing the industry by bribing devs to force ray tracing, causing game after game to bomb because people are starting to get sick of all the shit performing blurfest games.

Anon Babble loves doom 2016/eternal

that's a weird idea of "loves", specially with 2016

This is bullshit, anybody who tells you they like Doom 1 more than Doom 2 is a liar or a contrarian

why would nvidia pay devs to fund IPs they don't own?

publishers do it because its cheaper and easier to get good graphics. thats the whole point of dynamic rendering.

killing the industry

7th generation, nigger. You're only complaining about shit that doesn't please you, nvidia is irrelevant in the big picture

I like Doom 1 more. Because it actually has levels to navigate that are mostly fun, versus the open levels of 2 that kinda suck ass and focus a lot more on numbers spectacle, or huge gimmick maps like Barrels 'o' Fun and The Chasm.
If I had a PC version of Doom 1 that integrated the PSX style UV spawns of Doom 2 enemies and SSG into the first game's campaign well, it would be damn fun.

power fantasy

80s action movie

gen X energy

the Slayah

captain america's shield

Doom MCU

Pacific Rim mechs

dragons

turrets

turret with dragons

the Slayah is so strong OMG

pretty much. the game looks like the did a bunch of random focus groups and then mashed together various popular current things.

zoomers hate rule of cool. for them everything must be like HBO tv show.

Game cost 800 dollars + TAX + TIP + 4SKIN

b-but it's on gamepass for 29.99 per month so it's cheaper!!! :3

The future is grim

Even this nigga doesn't look as bad

which soulslop game is this?

Good
great
dont know about that
non issue
its actually better and useful than his shield
Quake 3 existed before MCU
Something people wanted in eternal
badass honestly missing cool wizard with giant hat
2 times
non issue
He always was, hugo said he killed a titan with his hands before he got godmode myker shit

Da Slaya thing really makes me laugh, do they actually say his name like that in the game?

nobody wanted this dude

womp womp
people said the same thing w/CRITICAL DAMAGE and marauder.

Yes
Quake universe may be all the things that you want, but never MCU cringe tier

meant foras for the name, its more formal than doomguy. or doom marine and doom sounds weird "watch out for doom"

estimates

>TOOOO FAAAAST!

Where?

win the fight, lose in the cut scene

interconnected universe is cringe tier?
oh right forgot MCU sure invented that, went back in time and help john carmack code all that.

one of the coolest things in the game, and imo better than any other setpiece boss in recent FPS games. ofc it doesn't work when you experience it thru shitposts so idk why you're surprised.

sales prove they had enough though

lol u tk to him 2 da bar??

if you cheat at unm you are just cheating yourself. even in eternal you could just reset console/altf4 if you died and you could continue

but honestly even beating pandemonium gave me such a dopamine hit at the end, id never get that with cheating unless the whole point is that you just want the skin which i at least get in some way.

salesfag

LOL

Expedition 33 won.

The Pajeet Pass effect

still not subbing to gamepass

brown hands wrote this

That's fuckin hilarious

jarpiggies licking that turd reminds me of the way game journos lick the turd of TLOU

looking at your own hands, pajeet.
saar pls

its usually the third worlders who dont play games that obsess with sales drama like women gossiping over celebrity drama

I don't have an rtx card.

Game Paass is amazing. Past few months alone I've had Indiana Jones, Avowed, A33, Oblivion Remastered and Doom Dark Ages.

I hope you cunts aren't paying $70 for each of these?

Okay Sukhdip.

Why would I spend anything on schlop?

starts projecting gay fantasies about prostates

the reason majority of Anon Babble doesnt like this game is because majority of Anon Babble doesn't play games that aren't made to be engaging for women. the most popular games are all casual games like deltarune, pokemon, palworld, jrpgs and popular GaaS like marvel rivals and trending games.

The totally not xenonorph

My God Doom 3 is so fucking creatively bankrupt and beyond shit

Is it really this bad?

I don't even think the game is shit, but this has to come down mostly to the price. In no way is this game worth the asking price of 80 Euros.

I buy maybe two games per year and spend the rest on model kits and anime figurines.
I will NEVER buy a 70/80/90/120$ game, lmao!

if it was at all interesting i would have bought this years nu doom cause im an adult with a job and buy whatever tf i want besides gamepass is for browns, europoors and hackerman pirates

Did they fucking hire blizzard developers for this shit? This entire game looks like some shitty wow expansion, the bosses even have shit wow raid boss mechanics.

This is not doom.

Evening, Hugo.

The point of it is partly to prevent people from building up backlogs and playing them during dry spells, and partly to make people pay vastly more when they latch on to a game they end up playing on and off for years.

looks like an anime girl with guns. did you get her already?

Just a heads up using "womp womp" makes you a HUGE faggot.

get use to libtard, this christian country now

Ordered her yesterday.
Hopefully she arrives in a month.

paying $20 a month for average games is amazing, better than paying $70 for each of these!

They're still average tier games, anon... You fell for the quantity over quality from services.

paying more than $50

Good for you getting in the cage anon, Have fun rotting away

i wish you good luck, and no ship/delivery nonsense.

I dont personally believe it

it's not doom

the original doom is running around empty maps looking for a key so can go through a door to find the next key in an empty map while backtracking parts of the empty map and fighting enemies by peeking around corner for 10sec

you think you want it, but you don't.

people who don't know, you would only play like this if you were playing on nightmare

people don't like it because it's a 15 hour long mishmash of random shit with the doom logo slapped on it.

Goyimpass must be profitable enough for MS if they're willing to kneecap their sales like this.

3m, but less than 1 without the gamepass

oh well, not that awful, really

"players"

HOLY KEK

lmao dumb fucking redditoid decided to smuggle their own little petty grievances
the game is just mediocre trash

Doom 3 will forever be boring trash

Well, that seems kind if easy to abuse

They tried to make it DmC but forgot that it was a disaster only in tone and marketing, not gameplay.

"its not doom"

see it is good thing we have graduated from shit game design like that, the same way we have graduated from films being silent and colorless, or the way we have graduated from acting being extreme close-ups of an actors face while they make a dramatic shocked face and the music swells.

doom 3 is awesome

you think you want it, but you don't.

I'm sure I really want it.

If there's one thing i'll give Doom 3 is that it's one of the few game that made me come close to shitting my pants.
Sound direction was amazing, audio logs were scary and zombies lumbering out of darkness with no speed metal blasting to draw my attention was nice.l, especially that one encounter im the bathroom with the mirrors.
No idea why it was called doom 3 though.

It doesn't matter, even if it isn't they have no other choice. At least with goypass they can milk the retards that pay it further with microtransactions to cope

see you think you do, but you don't.

i said if i thought it was interesting but i dont cause i have good taste

$20

lol Gamepass is only £8 a month in UK. I spend more on lunch each day.

consoomer cope

you think you do, but you don't.

I'm far more sure that I do. I even want it with more aggro enemies

no you wouldn't. the major complaint about TDA is already the maps being too big. now imagine they were even bigger and harder to navigate and progress.

that's what classic doom is.

only $8 yupoors

That is going to age poorly

no you wouldn't. the major complaint about TDA is already the maps being too big. now imagine they were even bigger and harder to navigate and progress

More space to put enemies to boost the fast paced action classic Doom is.

annoying ass game where you punch and block more than shoot

It might be better to just watch the cutscenes at Youtube.

This boss reminds me of the larva boss from serious sam TSE for some reason youtu.be/tPMqAZmwK5I?t=198

there's already enough space to " put enemies to boost the fast paced action classic Doom is." and people still complain the maps are too big.

people don't actually want to explore big empty maps, they tried that with TDA and it didn't work out.

t.
I never played the game

no (you) for u

" put enemies to boost the fast paced action classic Doom is." and people still complain the maps are too big.

They're not big, you're thinking in long. Which sometimes they do.

people don't actually want to explore big empty maps, they tried that with TDA and it didn't work out

Maybe if they didn't fucked up the gameplay it could've worked but they had to fuck it up the combat

make doom game that isn't doom

it flops

here is why that is actually a good thing!

doom at this point exists in a niche subgenre, its a legacy not a flagship.
too many devs are trying to dump money into IPs in the hope it will somehow carry them to mainstream relevance, when they fall short they seethe at gamers and end up looking even more detached from reality.

They're not big, you're thinking in long. Which sometimes they do.

incorrect. you can speedrun the maps in 3 or so mins each. doesn't change that 80% the time you spend in the map is just running between fights. there's simply too much empty space. just like in the originals. this was never a complaint in 2016 or eternal, which proves my point.

Maybe if they didn't fucked up the gameplay it could've worked but they had to fuck it up the combat

the gameplay in classic doom is hugging a corner and shooting off 1 bullet, then hiding, and is blatantly inferior, but this is moving the goalpost. let's stick to your original argument shall we?

they tried making the game like the originals. big empty maps and backtrack...

and people complained.

the map design is a problem but also proving original doom had bad game design which the industry did well to graduate from.

they tried making the game like the originals. big empty maps

tourist alert

to this day, Cryostasis is still the only game that does this.

there's simply too much empty space. just like in the originals. this was never a complaint in 2016 or eternal, which proves my point.

Outside the ocassional room the game is actually cramped those alleys aren't meant for 2 characters.

the gameplay in classic doom is hugging a corner and shooting off 1 bullet, then hiding

You're projecting. The gameplay is shoot at sight; simple as that

It's 15 pound for ultimate to play those day one games

looks boring and confusing. 99% of people would quit before finishing 1 level.

cramped map is even worse design. big open map at least you can't get lost. player getting lost is the failure of a game designer in modern views and we have graduated from those views unless you are playing a puzzle game or game where that is the intended design.

You're projecting. The gameplay is shoot at sight; simple as that

the gameplay is hugging corner, wait for projectile, peek, shoot, hug corner, wait projectile peek shoot.

modern doom you can do that. or you can fly around the map like an action hero with multiple engaging mechanics at play such as shield stun, falter, melee falter, weapon falter, disabling monster attacks, parrying, shield bash, high jump. accuracy of aimed fire. gaining resources by engaging the enemy.

what engaging mechanics do you utilize in doom 1 in a fight to fight basis?

the gameplay is inferior to nudoom.

i've seen a few people shit talk og doom for being a slow burn peek around every corner game, idk if it's just a strawman or general retardation. doom basically started speedrunning.

nobody playing the game first time plays like speedrunner that glitches through the map. if that is the argument then nudoom does it better you fly out of bounds from checkpoint to checkpoint.

first time player in og doom does what i described. first time player in tda feels like an action superhero crashing into the enemy front lines blasting everywhere with slow motion explosions happening like a michael bay movie.

og doom is boring, shit, confusing, slow, lame in comparison. great for its time when we had nothing else, but shows its age in current year.

when we had nothing else

you weren't even alive when doom was released, doom and quake were games about speed and precision. dark ages is a toddler tier green light red light game.

flop

Improper premise fallacy - Begging the question

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

I hate trannies though

dark ages is a toddler tier green light red light game.

Improper premise fallacy - Begging the question

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

dark ages is a toddler tier green light red light game.

Faulty generalization fallacy - Cherry picking

nobody playing the game first time plays like speedrunner that glitches through the map.

nigga i played doom when it came out and nobody hugged any corners, you dumb fucking zoomer. fuck off with your retarded revisionism

working as intended

aka creating fake sales for microsoft
every person who played for 5 minutes and uninstalled counted as a 'player' kek

And, did you beat it on nightmare?

And, how is that different from people who bought the game and didn't finish it?

the media spin for dark ages is interchangeable with virtually every other big flop from the last few years.

i'm gonna say that i did and then you're gonna go with "oh yeah? and you didn't hide at all during the entire gameplay?" and so on and so forth.
i understand your zoomer brain can't comprehend not everything like you headcanon it to be, but that's how it is

most people back in the day did. games being hard or having a learning curve wasn't a bad thing and there was a limited selection of games so you played the fuck out of whatever you had. especially in the shareware era when you had a floppy with a part of the game, you played through it a few times and then cranked up the difficulty.

Demonstrate the premise is correct.

- Provide evidence the game is a flop and did not meet sales expectations

Everyone already solved these games 30 years ago and found out the best way to play the game is hiding behind a corner. Arguing that because you play it in an unoptimal way and get hit more for it, does not change the fact.

funny cuz Halo didn't focus on lore really, in-game that is.

Everyone already solved these games 30 years ago

LMAO anon, please stop embarrasing yourself

because they wouldn't have bought the game for $80+tax

Provide evidence the game is a flop and did not meet sales expectations

it peaked on steam at 31k players. AAA games on gamepass on average see 3.5x more players that steam.
one of the major selling points with gamepass is that you lose sales on the frontend but make them up on the backend through player engagement, dlc and mtx.
its been a little over a week and the game already lost half of its meager player base on steam. so there likely isn't a backend because no one is playing the game.

first recommendation on google, first fight

youtu.be/kD62pFoC5ds?t=25

your move

I did not ask for your independent opinion or analysis. Provide evidence of the game not meeting sales expectations. Provide a copy of a statement given by MS or Bethesda claiming they were disappointed when put into comparison with the series' previous sales performance.

a person plays like that

that means everyone plays like that

sure thing anon

If the first person picked randomly from a random pool hides behind corners, what does that do for your stance that "nobody played by hiding behind covers"

Post any gameplay where someone playing casually is not hiding behind corners, it took me 2 sec to find that clip I posted.

game has a run button and you can auto sprint toggle in the options, which there really isn't a reason not to unless the sprinting sounds bother you

except for some fucking reason every single time you sprint has speedlines and a white screen flash

turning off screen effects means turning off all the damage and hud/loot effects for your shit too

What. Why? Who the fuck is so completely and utterly retarded to do this?

imagine thinking a dev is going to give out sales numbers on their flop.
you get ' number of theoretical players' and nothing more.
you notice how games like bg3 and coe33 say 'wow we sold this many copies!' and games like doom, assassins creed and avowed say 'players'. because they don't have sales lol
you are free to extrapolate the available data if you want to, or just wait for the article about the wave of layoffs lmao.
youtube.com/watch?v=KnHt8IMaCYY
not that it really matters with your kind.
those gift cards aren't going to redeem themselves.

i walked out of my house and stepped in shit

that means everyone who walks out of their house steps in shit

also

post

no. i'm not going to fall into your dumb games

A publicly shared company is required to disclose the performance of their assets. So where is that statement by the company?

Again, nobody asked for your independent analysis, so stop wasting your own and my time. Demonstrate the game was a flop with objective evidence or stop wasting everyone's time.

i walked out of my house and stepped in shit

that means everyone who walks out of their house steps in shit

That argument is more accurate for your own stance, because as it turns out, you are the minority in this argument trying to use your own cherrypicked experience to generalize how the game was for everyone.

no

Then you lose.

They're mostly trying to condition people into games being subscription only. After that games will be cloud-service only, some justification about how wasteful and unnecessary it is for people to have physical access to the hardware.

you are the minority in this argument

why?

because i said so

it's absolutely hilarious how you called people on fallacies and you're using them yourself

you lose

oh no! some zoomer anon on Anon Babble said i lost! woe is me!

>why?

>because i said so

Because that is the general consensus that has been formed of the game, and a plethora of readily available evidence immediately provided demonstrates this. You lack counter-proof.

youtube.com/watch?v=bUl9u-aCuD0

youtube.com/watch?v=okUioYnjWPI

Every player independently picked instinctively hangs around corners.

and you're using them yourself

Which fallacies. Provide evidence.

nobody asked for your independent analysis

yet you are here shilling your independent analysis. where is the statement from bethesda saying how many copies of the dark ages sold?

dude here's my proof EVERYONE plays like that

posts a video that has 14 views

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i'm sorry anon i thought i'd take you seriosly after all but this is too much
fucking lamoing @ ur life, imagine arguing on fucking Anon Babble and having arguments like these, embarrassing as fuck

unironically what MS pulled with Awoved lmao

3 million players

I remember another game that claimed that and got shut down a couple of months later anyway

So, now you are appealing to popularity.

Good. Let's find the highest view count video of map 1.

youtu.be/MnqLJpgq7jc?t=59

Next goalpost?

the first video doesn't even show what he says everyone does, not to mention the guy wastes like 15 seconds picking up random shit and fucked up opening a door.

see Every video so far backs up my argument.

You can't show a single video that backs up your argument. You are coping because everyone knows OG doom gameplay is wait for shot, peek, shoot, hide behind corner, repeat and you can't even find a single case someone not doing this unless they are speedrunning and memorized every enemy.

sure, i skipped like 2 minutes in your video you posted and the dude is face to face with enemies with the shotgun
but bow you're gonna be like

no but he's not attacking the enemies 100% of the time so that proves doom is about hugging corners!

embarrasing really
i'm beggining to suspect he's the "you think like a woman" anon from yesterday