SteamOS support for other handhelds is here

Just install mint and boot into big picture mode.

I guess testing the waters for desktop when they properly try and kill w10

If it's my first foray into the genre yes.
Killing Microsoft needs to come before your elitism.

When's proton 10?

Arch is notorious, I doubt anyone will take that "recommendation" seriously.
That said, I did actually use arch for a bit back in 2007 as a complete noob. Was alright. The documentation they have is really good. So much so that you can probably use it for other distros too.

Lighten up buddy, Microsoft isn't going to die anytime soon.
It's still way easier to do everything on Windows, even if the experience is dogshit. Microsoft is only going to die if they go balls deep fucking people with subscription based OS, and they ain't doing that yet.

SteamOS is just linux. Its benefit is being designed for a handheld and booting straight into big picture.

who gives a shit?
handheld computers are just worse laptops and the switch 2 is much better

Configuring shit can be fun depending on what it is. A server or network component sure, but getting your workstation into a usable state is just frustrating.

comparability for MSI claw?

I thought so too, but with the PewDiePie video I wish they would drop it right now.

I'd almost pity you poor sad fags if you weren't so obnoxious and willing to get screwed.

even the shittiest x64 laptop mogs the locked down arm tablet that is the shitch 2

Get mint. People have this huge misconception about steamos and act like it's the only way to use proton or something. It's just linux more designed for handhelds.

Kind of a nebulous statement without further elaboration. "Getting your workstation into a usable state" doesn't mean much. My computer was usable after I installed the OS and booted into it the first time, barring hardware incompatibility causing issues. However in case of both Windows and Linux it takes me a long time to set up things to be the way I want. I wouldn't say it's frustrating necessarily, but on Windows it's so mind numbingly boring that I don't even do it anymore. I just run it default OOBE.

your dreck is too bulky for a handheld and too weak for a computer, hence why you're playing indie shit the your only other alternative is emulating old games
it's no surprise it only sold 4 million units, even the failure of the wii u sold 3 times more, now imagine how much of a failure does that make the dreck

People have this huge misconception about steamos and act like it's the only way to use proton or something

This is exactly why its so important for valve to drop SteamOS on desktop.
Perception is reality, marketshare matters.

People have bitched about windows since the dawn of man, but feel like they cant leave it.
You have to make it painless and make people feel secure to jump from an OS for the first time.

Everyone has been talking a big game about "ill leave windows as soon as they deprecate 10!"
But if SteamOS isnt there, the vast majority wont make the jump.

"indie shit"

tendies are angry that I can play games without being cucked by the eSlop or artificial software restrictions

How's your Virtual Console library doing? OH WAIT, NINTENDO STOLE YOUR GAMES A G A I N HAHAHAHAHAHA
BETTER PAY UP FOR NSO SUBSCRIPTION TENDIE

bulky

Only valid point but it has to be to accommodate the Steam Controller 2.0 that's booted on the sides

old games

You have to beg for ports of old vidya because your shitch can't run emulators without the Nintendoreich's approval

weak

It's a 1050ti in a handheld, it runs anything pre-2020 reasonably well. On top of that I can just stream my games from MY GAMING PC if I really need to play Hitman and Project Wingman on the sofa.

It's not ready for them to make that jump to begin with.Wine isn't ready. The moment someone has to learn about and go through lutris to get an exe to run, you've almost certainly lost them. Until it's just as easy to use as windows, it's not ready for such a push no matter how shitty windows gets. People who're ready to use linux are the ones who will take the plunge themselves.

SteamOS, from Valve, using the built in Steam client is plug and play with the vast majority of games on the steam store. Steamdeck proved it already, the "unverified" games work fine with keyboard + dock.

If you want someone to make the jump, you give them something "official", from a company they trust.
Install, log into steam, almost all your games work already.
If they want to use Lutris, random distros and random guides online could easily make people lose hope.

If it were SteamOS with a huge immediate installbase, the pointed guides and support will be everywhere making things so much less of an issue.

Lutris is just a meme frontend for wine and proton. You don't need it. Depending on what you want to do, running stuff on system wine is far easier than Lutris. Of course there are advantages to using Lutris.

Yes, it's plug and play when you boot straight into big picture and only use steam. You can do that with mint. For the rest of it, it's still very much linux and until the simple act of clicking on an exe and it working more than half the time without needing to go through lutris, it is still not normalfag friendly enough for anyone who is too worried to get into linux right now. That and a bit more time for wine to cook are all it really needs at this point, honestly, but until it happens, it's not ready for such poeple, steamos or otherwise.

Yes, it's plug and play when you boot straight into big picture and only use steam.

Thats literally most gamers though
If you want wine to cook, you get a bigger userbase to work on it faster.

Wine isn't consistent enough ad you need to be able to run it through proton, doesn't have to be lutris, that's just the standard way. I wouldn't say proton is quite there yet either for broad application usage. It's like 90% there, but that 10% will frustrate people and could easily send them back to window and make them take another decade to give linux another shot, if at all.

That will happen by the people who're ready to take the plunge now, not wait for steamos thinking it's any different, that's all. The kinds of people brought into linux hoping it's as easy to use as possible are not the sort who're going to be contributing to wine.

People need to stop recommending distros like mint (debian) for gaming. If you have even mildly recent hardware and want to play the latest games you'll always want the latest packages to support it. Meaning your options are mainly Arch or Fedora. If you're intimidated by the barebones vanilla Arch, just install Endeavour - it's Arch with a bunch of preinstalled stuff to avoid the autism of setting up your OS from scratch.

also.. SteamOS is literally an Arch distro

I use both, mint is fine. I've seen no difference in gaming. Proton is by far and away the biggest factor.

Don't listen to retards ITT.
Get CachyOS or Nobara if you want to game on Linux. They're just optimised distros based on arch and fedora respectively.
Or if you're an absolute brain-dead who can't use Google like a monkey, use Bazzite and stay in big picture OR just debloat/clean windows with Titus Tech Tool, it'll be fine.
If you're on Nvidia be prepared for some pain if you insist on Linux though. AMD is pretty much flawless. Make sure to update Proton to the latest GE version (use protonplus) and google how to force steam to use the right version.

Just install Arch Linux

Biggest problem with Mint is that they use a DE forked from ancient Gnome. Maybe that's fine, but I sure don't like it. Don't like Gnome much either for that matter.

Nvidia has been fine for me.

Nvidia supports linux now thanks to ai. Their drivers have gotten much better.

I dunno about that. The driver version 570 which is on Arch repos is kinda trash with wayland. Only the beta driver 575 works good.
Kinda fucked that you need beta driver to have a good time.