Dark Heresy

Will it succeed like WOTR after Kangmaker or will it flop?

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I like Warhammer but hate Russians so both is fine for me.

Can I play a dual pistol gunslinger or sword and pistol build in RT and have it be viable?

Farseer GF when?

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Inferno pistol and sword build here I come.

no waifu no buyfu

The Eldar is male. The only females shown so far are the Kroot and the black woman.

Hopefully never

the black woman.

Why the fuck does every Owlcat game have to feature a black woman as a companion?

Never, ever

Do you have a problem with it chuddie?

Can I play a dual pistol gunslinger

Yes, it's very good but lacks some itemization in the mid game. Did a playthrough of this and had a lot of fun

or sword and pistol

Considerably less good since you have to invest in both BS and WS if you want both to work consistently. Some companions can get away with it but I doubt it's great for the MC unless you're going commissar and just want them as flavor rather than damage

A corsair is cool but I'd like some clowns, they're fun

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uglier than Seela and Idira

grim(dark)

There I fixed it, you can thank me later.

Wait, fuck, T'au don't have ears. I feel so ashamed, I'm sorry I failed you.

I dont care, im buying it either way.

Why is owlcat incapable of making an attractive black woman?

There are 0% chances of getting a tau girl, and even if there's one and she has a romance she won't put out

Both are viable, yes.

Fix'd Seelah

that nose

What is she, a mutt?

The topknot is where you hold onto

Yep, grab her there and the start spinning her around and throw her as far as you can

Can anyone without going full anime like japs?

Why don't you just google "attractive black woman"

They want the American audience. They know Americans won't play any games without niggers

Whhy is her head so LONG?

What's owlcat cooking with the kroot girl?

shant be playing

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I already see a Nexus ban.

After some thinking I have started to think that they should have just put this effort into more stuff for Rogue Trader instead

If it's as successful, why not? Hell RT might not even stop at two, didn't get WotR get like six DLCs?

Yeah and four of them were shit, the only reason why they didn't release more was because they killed all the goodwill with the horrendous first season pass

Reminder that Starrok said during stream that Third season pass is not off the table for RT if third is successful

Those early dlcs were a lot more low effort and were quicker to pump out.

but anon, we are getting more stuff for rogue trader.
thankfully owlcat seems to know that players want main campaign integration now, not random side-story shit. plus void shadows was quite good so if they can keep that level of quality i'll gladly consume the slop and ask for thirds.

Problem with WOTR half the DLC was bad or meh.
RT so far had the best DLC Owlcat made so far and Lex is looking good from trailer and info

thankfully owlcat seems to know that players want main campaign integration now

It took them way too long to realize that. Should've been obvious after Kingmaker even if they didn't get to realize all the DLC they waned for it. Fact is most people will only play a long CRPG once and want all the content in that one go. Ain't no one doing standalone dungeons.

There better be a sweaty tau in one of those dlcs or im rioting

I started playing Rogue Trader recently and I'm so fucking pissed off. Not only did they take away the voice acting after the tutorial, suddenly every single conversation is three times longer and wordier, I don't mind reading but it's so much fluff compared to the previous dialogue.
Why do they do this.

Hold up, nigga. 2026? Shiiieeeet.

They think that words words words equals better writing

yeah, if you're one of those types who waits for games to be ready, it might be worth playing RT about a month after Lex Imperialis (so the worst bugs have been fixed) and then return 2 years later to do a second run with the other DLC.

Sex, that's what they are cooking.

no voice acting is better. full VA is why I'm worried about Dark Heresy, trying to imitate Larian will bring the same issues.

what are said issues?

Ironically this will solve itself in DH will full VA as there's no way they're wasting money on their usual inflated scripts. Expect the entire game to be like RT opening.

companion banter

main base companion conversations

pivotal plot moments (antagonist needs to be voiced for characterization)

their lame cutscenes with textboxes

Nothing beyond this needs to or should be voiced in Owlcat games, their prose is good by itself, the filesize won't be bloated and they won't need to restrict writing due to VA costs / filesize / scheduling.

Ain't no one doing standalone dungeons.

people focusing on builds do which was why it made sense to have those in pathfinder games. you get to play through your build in a condensed experience rather than by replaying the campaign. rogue trader is a different sort of game.

More voiced dialogue means fewer opportunities for retaking a line, meaning lower quality overall

Is this owlcats new game? Another 40k crpg?

Meh. I'll pass. Idk I wanted to like Rogue trader but I just didn't.

looks way too human
also the eldar in DH is male

Dunno about other people, but i did not find midnight isle enjoyable at all as part of the base game. Shit was just tedious and it pretty much ruined any semblance of balance.
Weirdly enough, i did enjoy the kingmaker one, with the dragon. It had an amazing boss fight at the end

go play bg3, zoomer

that I get, but if they have the funding and a confident, tight script, they can easily bang it out proper. Not saying shit like BG3 didn't have plenty mediocre subplots and dialogue.

clussy soon, trust the plan

You literally can't fuck a kroot, so add her to the Yrliet pile

They didn't take away anything tho. They updated prologue with VA long after release and added more VA in general instead. There used to be less VA

feed her enough semen and she'll grow boobs and vegana

unless you want to get a va, a sound studio, and rerecord all her voice lines then yes

You mean like the other AI slop mod already did?

and it sounds like a shitty microsoft sam too

I don't think this pass will be delayed like current one, since they mostly polished up the game in terms of bugs and announced it a good time ahead

I want an autistic admech gf so bad bros

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People are asking for kroot romance in survey

Give it to them

Nooooo why doesn't she look like on coomer fan art?

gib Famulous slut

I do have a problem with ugly characters regardless of race, but their ugliness can be ignored if they have a good character depth.

Regill, Daeran, Abelard and Arueshalae

Owlcat can write good characters. As for this bitch, we just have to see her personality after the game releases.

>People are asking for kroot romance in survey

Source?

Xenos as an inquisiton acolyte

I SURE LOVE TERTIARY OPIONIONS

How does AdMech procreate anyway? They discard all their biological parts over time anyway, they refer to themselves as "This unit", do they even have sex or do they just run cloning vats

finally second DLC is about to come out and I can replay Rogue Trader

bro hey actually two more DLC a year later!!!

Oh come on. I cant wait another year

Or just replay it now once Lex Imperalis is out

Reminder, you will never fuck a female elf

haha...

It looks better than RT

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good opinions

of all the guardsmen they picked a catachan rambo larper

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No, it really doesn't. The Kroot looks fun and that's about it. Having one decent pick in a full five companions is not a good look. Unless every single companion from this point is amazing RT wins outright already.

This is a good thing btw

Only niggress looks bad

Sorry, anon, nothing but cadia, katachan and krieg exists anymore.

RT had one total waste of time (argenta) so we might end up better in the end. although the three humans aren't very interesting yet.

ywn be taken as a pleasure toy by a corsair prince, for him it's a temporary diversion but for you it's 70 years in pampered luxury

No one cares about your garbage opinion anon

Yes, she looks outright terrible, but the Catachan, Eldar Warlock and Ogryn look painfully bland and uninteresting. Again, this is a really poor showing for the first five companions they're showing off.

No they don't, you have shit taste

Argenta was the most beloved companion in the entire game though, so your statement is questionable, to say the least.

There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin.

You are going to make a lot of waifucels mad

She ranked four on the narrative ranking, which is frankly way too high for someone with no story whatsoever. Such is the power of being a sister of battle, just like Yrliet, they were always going to be popular thanks to their profession and race, respectively.

romance cut by GW

has absolutely nothing to do after act 3, barely any plot

yeah, she's kind of a waste of time. she seems initially interesting and is mechanically powerful but it all falls apart.

Yes, they do. If you think "look, I'm Rambo!" and two of the most generic looking Eldar and Ogryn ever made are appealing, you are beyond help.

No a big titty tau is not more interesting
Can't form your own opinions huh?

As opposed to a generic space woof, a generic psyker, a generic eldar and a generic sister of battle?

it's a fairly accurate list
t. daeranGOD

They look generic but ogryn/kroot/eldar companions have more opportunities for interesting writing than yet another spess muhrine and guardsmen.

Is that the official /crpg/ from Anon Babble tierlist? I will admit it is impressive. This is the first tierlist I can't find a flaw in (besides my subjective opinion of Nenio and Arushalae, but that is Subjective)

Oh look, an actual homosexual posts his worthless opinion.

they're holding back on the really interesting companions

So true! We're all husbandocels in these threads.

Sorry Yrliet and Camellia were ranked in garbage tier must have stung

The game itself falls apart during and definitely post Act 3 though, so I'd say that's a larger issue with the game itself rather than just Argenta, though she did get hit hard with the grand finale of her companion quest which was obviously supposed to be a dungeon being cut so completely you don't even get a book segment out of it. Hopefully Owlcat has FINALLY learned from their mistakes in their past three games and this will be a much tighter game, what with them saying they've shortened the length of the game, so maybe for once the end game of their product won't be absolute trash.

You joke but the RT threads a few months after release were nothing but Heinrix and Marazhai husbandofaggotry spam. Goddamn they were shit, the only thing worse than waifufaggotry, waifufaggotry but gay.

warhammburger slop is a scam

fuck no this company is done. Baldur's Gate 3 unironically mind broke them now and these retards want the normie audience when there isn't a chance in hell they will get them.

I hope they come back to spite you

I never did a playthrough without Daeran in my party. He is by far the most versatile character in builds on unfair.

Sosiel mogs the shit out of him simply because he's a cleric, but that's a fact that all the gays that want to fuck Daeran would never accept

Baldur's Gate 3 unironically mind broke them now

I thought that was Obsidian. Owlkek thinks only full VA will get the normies interested not fancy graphics.

Haven’t played a CRPG since playing Fallout 1&2 20 years ago. Is Rogue Trader easy for a beginner? Does it lend itself well enough to replays that playing it when the second DLC comes out is fine or should I wait for the fourth next year?

These glue sniffers think that full voice acting will save them when the average normie can barely understand a stat sheet. It's honeslty hilarious.

Eldar Corsair looks cool. In fact people were asking for a Corsair in addition to Kroot and Ork often as well. Schizos here, in those threads, even shipped made up Corsair with Winterscale. And people wanted Ogryn. It actually looks like they just put on cover what people wanted in RT team. Rambo isn't a common companion in rpgs, but at least everyone looks like a proper killer.

Here is just hoping that Ogryn won't be merely a wholesome chungus big guy like in Darktide.

Oh I'm sure they will, and worse still they're probably going to latch onto the eldar, as if eldarfags weren't annoying enough

Nigger, you think they evolved to have sexual procreation without having any sex-drive? Stop being retarded. Also, 40k isn't a hard-canon setting.

Unfortunately slophammer has too many braindead followers so it will not flop, the faggots will buy anything with a GW trademark on it.
Pathfinder is the superior setting so I'm personally going to vote with my wallet and buy more Pathfinder

they announced the full voice acting shortly after bg3 and wayy before the remaster of oblivion. regardless to what game it was they went full retard.

Generic Space Wolf

Yeah, Ulfar is actually fairly uninteresting and average as a character.

Generic Psyker

How was Idira generic? She was well written and was interesting from the outset.

Generic Eldar

Yrliet was the worst thing Owlcat ever wrote and pehraps the worst written Eldar character in GW history, which is really an impressive achievement, so I wouldn't say she was generic, as that's giving her too much credit.

Generic Sister Of Battle

Sisters Of Battle are inherently fun and cool so it doesn't matter if they're generic. Argenta definitely could've used more work but I suspect GW had mandates in place far beyond the no romance spiel, look at Commoragh, she's practically the only person who you can take there that walks out unscathed. It would also explain why there's no option to even attempt to corrupt her on the Heretic path.

Ok yuritroon, keep trying and maybe it'll work out.

the worlds only Sosiel fan calling anyone else gay

Calling Sosiel good gameplaywise doesn't make me a Sosiel fan, retard, he's boring. But he's good, and better than Daeran.

We didn't know that based on the cover art. We barely know anything about these new characters.

The cover art for RT was way better than the cover art for this game, though.

He's talking about the cover art brainlet, Idira isn't there, Heinrix is. And yes Idira sucks

RT/DH d100 system is piss easy

I don't mind reading

this is a lie, zoomers literally cannot read
muse.jhu.edu/article/922346

I think the issue is Paizo doesn't want to support 1e content anymore. No one gives a shit about 2e (owlcat has claimed it as dogshit before) so we won't be seeing anything anytime soon regarding pathfinder.

Idira is one of the best written characters in RT.

Because you are used to it or you get aroused seeing 3 non black women on the cover or you pog for big marine, faggot

RT is easy to get imo. Unless you are really scared of item/skill descriptions like this. Game isn't hard either.

No, the issue is that Owlcat is tired of Pathfinder, that's all, Starrok said so. Their developers want to move onto something else, and they did, 40k and whatever the fuck the three other games are about

Legitimately the only cool looking character on that cover art is the Kroot. Even the Inquisitor himself looks subpar compared to the Rogue Trader protagonist.

Why do you have eldar hair

Little zoomies have some of the worse grammar and spelling. Many of them are leaving high school and can barely write or read properly. A lot of people will say it was covid that fucked them up but I also blame technology for enabling them since a lot of them use text to speech to get things done.

You may think that but most normies will look at those stats and give up off the bat because they literally can not understand percentage or, how they correlate to stats.

Everyone likes topknots in Warhammers
I know. I showed similar pic from RT to my normie friends and they noped out immediately thinking it's some insanely indepth game for autists

I'd say that for Pathfinder but RT is easy

Yes they are sick of pathfinder because they would be forced to make a 2e game because like I said Paizo wants to move completely away from 1e due to the OGL debacle. No one gives a shit about 2e and its easy to see as the other company who they contracted to make a 2e game has gained 0 traction.

Unless you are really scared of item/skill descriptions like this

yes, that shit is so needlessly complicated, Owlcat can't into proper explanations. Even Pathfinder was more simple

this attack deals +2 damage depending on your STR modifier

also add +2 damage for every mythic rank you have

vs

this attack deals per/str x 2 + 50% of your avo

What's the point of taking anything other than psyker? Aside from RP.

Psyker is not worth taking if you want to focus more on your class abilities since you have to pick between those and your main Psyker abilities on level up, so there's plenty of builds where Psyker is not a worthwhile background to have.

So, considering the party composition and complete lack of romanceable waifus, the best way to play would be as femHeinrix, at least she'll have some dudes lusting after her or smth.

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Owlcat hates 2e

This is made up, just like "Owlcat blamed Paizo for Amiri not being a romance option"

It's more that many schools stopped teaching phonics and instead implemented some variation of that "whole language" nonsense.

Psyker makes all those class abilties obsolete

You posted the wrong one.

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A crime lord operative with a forge world background makes it stupidly hard to fail most skill checks since you have so many bonuses. Throw on bounty hunter and you're also able to effectively melt most enemies or soften them up so your other companions can one tap them

Garbage "taste"

Not really, a solid Officer, Soldier or Bladedancer build breaks the game just fine.

Should've been obvious after Kingmaker

Varnhold's Lot is my favorite Owlcat's Pathfinder campaign. The best possible level range, comfy, challenging, not too long, no meme management minigame and a decent encounter variety.

Just having Kroot and Ogryn already makes it great but depending on the remaining companions it can end up worse. And also male Eldar personality and voice, he better sound cool like DOW2 eldars

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I liked Space Battles in RT. I wish we could upgrade/change ship and get more ships to command. I wish one of those future 2 new dlcs expanded on this aspect too.
I already printed them

Kroot and T'au combined arms is one of the more enjoyable parts of 40K, it's actually a shame they have never been highlighted outside of Dawn Of War.

I don't even buy the other models!

DAYUM look at all those sexy kroot girls!

Good thing all those are not origins, but archetypes, and psyker can just be added on top to make them all better, it's also I believe is the reason why they are making psyker into an archetype in DH

I am actually surprised, it really is close to accurate

I sincerely doubt Owlcat are capable of managing DoW level voices, DoW is unmatched to this day in that regard.

they should get keith szarabajka for DH

Pretty good, but Nenio should be so low she rolls back to Elder God tier

The only females shown so far are the Kroot

Niiiice

Contrary to what GW thinks I doubt there's much overlap between vidya and minis.

It doesn't really make them better when you have limited points to spend on combat actions and the Psyker abilities or your class abilities become superfluous as a result. Having Crime Lords Sure-Fire Plan to buff attacks, for example, is far more valuable to several builds than anything Psyker offers.

garbage warhammer shit again
they should continue with pathfinder instead of that utter trash

You lost, cope

There could be, but then you see the entry cost just to get started and I think I like having both my kidneys.

I'm sure the 3 fans of the setting would be really pleased if they did.

there's probably enough, and exposure helps the brand overall

The Pathfinder games were decent enough in spite of being Pathfinder, not because of it. If owlcat wants to release another proper fantasy rpg they should just go with Warhammer Fantasy

Pathfinder is the superior setting

I don't think they think this. They know that most people playing vidya won't get into tabletop and they don't care.
Kroot are in DH because players begged for Kroot so hard to be in RT, not because of GW. Owlcat decided to featured them prominently in sequel. Admittedly a good idea, it will give DH a unique new faction to face against, similar to Craftworlders and Dark Eldar in RT.

i'd take an AoS game over another Pathfinder game

Pathfinder games were also adaptations of existing content. People forget or just don't know that.

No one forgets, everyone agrees that Owlcat did a better job than Paizo

Yeah, WHFB would be way more interesting and fun than a Pathfinder game.

I'm shocked to find out WFRP still has no video games based on it.

Nobody plays real pathfinder

the push for arbiters in RT and DT seems like intentional promotion
gotta sell those Imperial Agents Combat Patrols you know, make people feel better about owning or buying into this under looked at part of the lore

we have to wait until fucking june for the DLC because of GW

Quite frankly ANY fantasy setting would be better than Pathfinders, Golarion is perhaps the worst fantasy setting currently in play today and should be the LAST choice for further content from Owlcat. Eberron, Forgotten Realms, WHFB, Exalted, Shadowrun, World Of Darkness, just about ANYTHING else would be better. Owlcat didn't succeed because of Pathfinder, they succeeded in spite of it.

Hold up. So Kroot actually got some love? I remember when they barely had any models.

holy shit I would love a shadowrun owlcat game

Maybe it be less of a buggy mess

I wonder if Night Lords were chosen to indirectly push their Kill Team pack from last year.

Is the staff with the half of the man really needed?

holy shit nu-chaos units look dog shit
Absolutely bespoiled the Night Lord aesthetic

it be less of a buggy mess

lol, lmao even

It is incredible how absolutely garbage that looks. People actually pay for this trash?

What do you mean? That's pretty standard Night Lords appearance wise

Yeah, the new CSM models are mostly stinkers, sadly.

Kill Teams are the cheapest way to get into 40k and have something ready to use.

I don't get it, those models look pretty cool, what's the problem?

They don't only pay for it. They dump huge amounts of money on these little piece of plastic. Warhammer nerds are some of the most pathetic and smelly mfers you will ever run across.

And they had to go out of their way to fix them when they adapted them. Remember that WOTR tabletop has that infamous scene with Iomedae where you have to answer 3 nonsensical questions that prove the party is part of her fan club or she blasts you with increasingly lethal damage.

At least most of the other Kill Teams look good.

Worse than Anon Babble posters????

Remember when blacks weren’t in warhammer?

Yeah I genuinely cannot imagine what kind of a reject you have to be to fork over money for this plastic junk, it's unreal that this company actually has a market that pays them for this trash.

you don't have to interact with Anon Babble posters in person and smell the horrid stench of them so it doesn't matter. Warhamburgers can clear out a entire room in seconds with their foul stench.

Have you ever heard of Vulkan or the Salamanders?

Night Lords are evil space marine terrorists combined with batman tier plot armor.
They have stories like "... and then, after the 8' dude in tank armor snuck into the fortress, he SKINNED THE WHOLE GARRISON ALIVE and disappeared into the night and no one even knew! Which made the whole army so afraid they surrendered two days later!"
They'd be really funny if they showed up more often. Luckily they've been largely forgotten about for years.

I would once again like to reiterate that outside of the Kroot, including the Inquisitor himself, none of these characters look appealing and fun. I hope the gameplay and mechanical improvements they have (theoretically) done coming from RT are significant, because this is looking like a downgrade in at least one way already from that game.

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Golarion is miles better than nu-Forgotten Realms. And if we're also talking about modern non-tabletop vidya settings, Golarion is much better than most of them.

Considering that one of the main combat mechanics they're advertising involves creating builds that force your enemies to surrender or flee in terror, it seems 100% confirmed there will be a Night Lords CSM companion, since that is exactly their entire shtick.

Tell me all the new character's backstories and personalities GO

lol
lmao
At least try to make your shitposts believable, dude.

Let's be real, you just want to goon to a waifu.

Yeah I got priced out over a decade ago. Couldn't keep up with it. And that was back when you could get a... I think they called it a battle box? Basically a basic whole army, HQ, 2 troops and elite in one box, for $120. Nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if that same box would be $400 or more.
But that does mean I'm more of a fan than half the secondaries whose only attachment to the setting is a shelf full of shitty fanfic Horus Heresy books.

NLs are interesting because they're essentially a renegade legion that ended up with other traitor Legions simply because we needed a clear SM vs CSM division. Some of their warbands embrace Chaos, some completely abhor it, some just want to be left to their sadistic ways, etc. I do find it interesting they're supposedly the only Chaos Legion that predominantly spends their time in real space because there's where the innocent people to flay are at.

I can at least agree with that literally no one gave a shit about Golarion until they made kingmaker and wrath. I don't think the setting is the worst but paizo sure didn't help things expecially with their new 2e garbage adventures.

not so much push, but i think they make creative decisions on what's currently somewhat relevant
like they're not gonna do shit with exodites because they're nearly forgotten by the lore
but they're gonna put in Night lords and Arbiters because even if they are relatively irrelevant they do have newer kits people have bought so someone is gonna be happy they get exposure

Praising modern Forgotten Realms is one of the biggest shitposts I can imagine. The gap between FR up to 3.5e and Golarion is as big as the gap between Golarion and nu-FR.

I said tell me it. and their questlines and character development.

Psyker-Bladedancer-Executioner is by far the strongest setup in the game, anon. It can oneshot every single enemy and boss and clear most battles in a single turn, solo.

Chaos

companion

Marine

Companion

Dark Heresy

Nope. Not happening. Maaaaybe he's undercover as a different chapter and part of the actual Inquisitor's retinue. And NPC. But a marine companion at Dark Heresy power levels is basically out of the question. The Night Lord is gonna be an antagonist.

Yeah, it's a safe bet. He will be Marazhai of DH. Depending on his character, maybe you can even make him go to Deathwatch as a Blackshield in a "good ending"

not so much push, but i think they make creative decisions on what's currently somewhat relevant

Almost certainly. Shit, Mechanicus 2 has the very first vidya appearance of Leagues of Votann, for example.

You asked for their backstories and I just gave them to you from the website, and now you're trying to move the goalpost past your initial request since you got BTFO. I accept your concession.

Shadowrun, WHFB and World of Darkness are my peak Owlcat wishes. Especially WHFB since you get the fantasy feel but it's also a shitty world, yet you don't have to bend over backwards to make freakshit parties.

WHFB isn't fun to play.

Did entire site suddenly lagged only for me? I couldn't post for a while.

You're just mad no sexy alien/mutant on the cover

It happens all the time, been like this since the site came back

But a marine companion at Dark Heresy power levels is basically out of the question.

We're becoming Inquisitor before the halfway point. No, not really. Hell, Dark Heresy TTRPG had Grey Knight playable characters and that is a step above.

WHFB

WFRP

You realize you're talking about two different things, right?

sites been fucked since the hack

It's an Owlcat game, I have absolutely zero faith they're going to keep the power levels low and grounded whatsoever, even in a Dark Heresy game. You'll probably be a full Inquisitor by the time the prologue ends and the game will finish with you as an Inquisitor Lord leading your own cabal, bare minimum.

It's been shit ever since it came back. Catalog not updating, captcha having mental breakdowns, etc. Someone's skimping.

Owlcats DH maybe will be a bit lower power than RT, but we already know that we will be Inquisitor and already have Kroot and Corsair on team. Don't count on mudcore.

Will he take the helmet off

it would be extremely painful

yes, but only for female players

character has grey skin, he must be a black person!

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half the CSM aren't even chaos worshippers
you got the deity legions who worship their gods, except 1ksons who don't seem like they like their god at all
and the word bearers
thats like 4 and a half that worship the chaos gods
the night lords, iron warriors, and the black legion just view chaos as a tool. and then the alpha legion who might not even be traitors (i hope they're the true tzeentch worshippers)

hot

I was going to go shotgun arbites for when the second DLC comes out but I can't fight to urge to go psyker again. I wish arbites wasn't an origin.

Dark Heresy TTRPG had Grey Knight playable characters and that is a step above.

It did not. It had rules for them showing up if the demons got too out of hand, but they were not personally playable for the players. Basically an OH SHIT moment when things got too out of hand. You might be thinking of one of the Space Marine focused FFG systems.
Space Marines in general are far outside DH power levels.

basically if something has a kit they're likely to get shown somewhere in the games
if you want something to be really shown in games, buy more of that kit

Ok waifufag

Right, that's why I specified that I dislike how the Inquisitor looks, especially compared to the much better cover rendition of the RT from that games cover art, and mentioned how bland the three aside from the Kroot look. If you disagree with me how about telling me why you think Rambo, an Ogre, and the most painfully generic Eldar I've ever seen look good? And then you read the backstories and once again the only one that looks solid is the Kroot, she's the only one with an actually interesting backstory that gives some depth to her character. Meanwhile, the Catachan guys bio talks about... his knife? Wow, how fascinating. Give me a break.

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I can't remember such a time, no

holy shit they got the license for John Boyega???

Is this game going to use the Dark Heresy tabletop's rules or what?

I always cheat to combine origins to have a better backstory, like my main build which is Crimelord Psyker Voidborn (he was born on a space station, eventually ruled it through his crime syndicate, then his psychic abilities appeared and he was betrayed by his people and taken away by the Inquisition). To balance it out I don't make him a sanctioned psyker but give him the unsanctioned abilities at the start.

It'll probably be based on them like RT was based on the TTRPG rules too.

release when

I do have that book and yes you can create grey knight PCs and it does warn you about breaking the game with them.

To me, Warhammer 40K is similar to Pokemon in that both have originally cool and creatively stimulating settings, but have always had mediocre at best gameplay and genuinely retarded owners that have done nothing but make the entire IP worse in any way they can since the start, with only the occasional spinoff having a spark of "hey that's actually neat/fun!".

DH and RT are like 95% the same on the tabletop.

That's not generic Eldar. Corsairs have different drip, backstory and flavor

What makes a generic kroot better than a generic ogry, corsair, or whatever?

Runequest by Owlcat when?

It's chasing after what sells. They tried a lot of things with aliens, but Imperium and Chaos is what everyone obsesses over so here we are.

Dune RPG by Owlcat, focused on Great House politics. Need it or keep it?

Meanwhile, the Catachan guys bio talks about... his knife? Wow, how fascinating. Give me a break.

Hey. Women have fallen for less. Maybe it's a REALLY big, thick sword.

To me, Warhammer 40K is similar to Pokemon

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You mean the supplement for 1e that everyone said was a complete mistake that ruins the balance of the game? That book?

How is she generic? She's an outcast that specifically broke their biggest taboos and now she's forced to work with Humans just to survive since she cannot return to her people. That's interesting, that gives you a reason to want to find out more, and what happened to cause her to break those taboos and why, and makes her intriguing as a character. None of the other backstories do this, nothing that's written about them makes you interested in them as a character.

Imperium and Chaos is ALSO worse now though. You do see that right?

Man I want a corsair focused game so bad. I want to play as an arrogant space elf pirate prince and style on lesser races

I wish Eldar in general got more attention, but after the latest aborted arc I suspect that's it. Which is a shame because there's some good shit out there like pic related and how a Drukhari becomes integrated into Craftworld society.

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abelard, make sure anon receives 10 lashes for his incompetence

Corsairs are getting new book

corsair character action game

SSSstylish combat, can use kit from across eldar factions, can work with and against every faction

it's the perfect setup which is why it'll never happen

B-but you don't get it. It's about the PRIMARCHS now!

Marahzai is so fucking fun as a companion. He is not only amazing in combat, and also has hilarious combat dialogue, the stuff he gets involved in if you enable his murderpsycho shit on your ship is also funny as fuck, especially due to how much it makes fags like Henrix etc seethe.

So much of it would have to be written in. Its doable but there's very little in the Dune universe to actually go off of. Dune is almost entirely focused on its own characters with most of the wider setting basically just hinted at or glimpsed occasionally when it becomes relevant. Owlcat seems to do best when they have a lot of setting notes to go off of.
Might be cool, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

So you're a marine piggie mad no marine on the cover? Or is the no sister lust

They're just explaining why a kroot is part of your party, they're not going to dump the characters' entire story and personalities on those short summaries

"I walk the witch path, and it leads to war!"

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Herohammer sucks shit, sorry. Not only does the lore suck (telenovela shit), but so does putting a 500pt centerpiece model on the table.

Chaos

night lords

unlikely. Night lords tend to stray away.from that sorta thing.

That's obviously a chatgpt description

I enjoyed darktide immensely, but as a brainlet who never played D&D can I go into wotr blind?

Yeah, Dune and Lotr are to me too focused on a particular story and particular characters. They aren't really fit for longer exploitation with donut steel characters and stories. It always ends up cringeworthy when someone tries to add their own fanfiction to them.
Hyborian Age could be cool I think and a good choice of an underused setting for Owlcat to feed on.

Asked in the other thread, but might as well ask here. Does this game have a built in fps counter? Or maybe bag of tricks added it? I can turn off the damn thing.
Its not steam overlay or nvidia fps counter.

Works on my machine. Never saw it

yeah but you might want to look up a build since the wotr is full of trap options unlike kingmaker. for example magical and elemental damage in wotr sucks.

There are two ways to play WotR: set the game on Story mode and casually right click your way to victory, or option two; set the game on Core or higher, buff your party before every fight (hopefully using the mod to save yourself some of the tedium), and casually right click your way to victory.

sounds grim 2bh

Give me my money. Hell, make it a multiplayer game where you, and 3 of your mates get to board the ships of the various other races of the galaxy, wreck shit in them, loot valuables and in general fuck around. Could just take notes from Warframe a lot for the movement and the way melee and gunplay are mixed together. The players being corsairs would also explain the wide range of wargear available, and would also give a neat progression with for example, you working more closely with Dark Eldar granting you more and more Deldar wargear, etc, while working closely with Craftworlders grants you more Craftworlder wargear and so on.

This party's getting CHRAAZY... but not too crazy or Slaanesh will have my ass.

Pathfinder: WotR is a character builder. That's it, that's the entire appeal of the game. The companions are lackluster and nonsensical, the setting even moreso, the campaign just a power fantasy that actively hands the retard ball to everyone around your protagonist to make your PC feel "special", and the combat might as well be a cookie clicker for your buff spells, followed by an autobattler with how non existent any tactics or strategy are in the game.

The ENTIRE reason people like this game is because they find it enjoyable to build a powerful character, get the math optimized correctly, and watch their little creation utterly demolish everything in its path. If you do not enjoy doing this, and want something more out of a CRPG, you will not enjoy this game. These are the facts and the reality of the matter. Anyone claiming otherwise is a lying, filthy shill and should be treated as such. Play and enjoy the game if you want, but don't pretend it's anything more than what it is.

Make it so you play as a Harlequin. That way you can still have the MC spouting noncence in a cutscene like Dante.

Abelard needed the option to introduce you through the entire game. Like he should be able to shout BOW BEFORE ANON VON VALANCIUS in the Drukhari arena. It's a shame the option just disappeared after act 2.

You can like Mahrazai perfectly fine without having any interest in fucking him. He's and edgy sicko that is constantly seething about having to work for you but masks it under the veil of eldar arrogance, and general smug asshole attitude, which I find quite amusing. Especially when in combat he become such an unhinged psycho openly.

That is honestly exceedingly grim for both Jae and Idira, since they're both Act 1-2 companions and yet they are somehow losing to companions you don't get until midway through Act 3.

What the fuck does this show? He's not even close to the nigger and the hag. He's better than yrliet btw but incels won't like that.

argenta 4.13

it's grim how people play these games yet never finish them. anyone who completed the game and saw how threadbare argenta's content was could never give her a score above 3. idira in comparison is great.

I'd like the pathfinder games more if it wasn't for having to prebuff every encounter

I love popularity polls, people always pretend not to care but the sour grapes will always be there.

Am I supposed to trust the people who rated Yrliet high? Marazhai mogs her hard.

"Owlcat blamed Paizo for Amiri not being a romance option"

This was true tho, the dev washing his hands was just a way to weasel themselves out bad PR

The entire game starts to fall apart and lose all the meat of its content once you hit Act 3, and by Act 4 it's gone entirely. Owlcat really need better management of the scope of their games, I would've far preferred a tight, content full Act 3 than the shoddy, unfinished trash that is Act 4-5 (and arguably the latter pat of Act 3).

Jae is a fucking granny and Idra is a nigger. Neither has any real appeal.

Argenta is hot and SoB. None of them care about her as a character. No her liking kids does not mean she wants your semen.

heh... he's not at the rock bottom, just a step above it! I win!

If it wasn't for all the women that want to fuck him he would be lower btw, two can play the same game.

Jae is extremely forgettable. Idira isn’t but she’s such a massive retard I can see why people hate her.
Yrliet needs to be at the bottom though she’s the fucking worst

Idira at least has the excuse of obviously being a ticking time bomb you have to go out of your way to save, and anyone with even cursory knowledge of 40k knows that rogue psykers are bad news. Jae though that sucks, kwab.

I thought women don't play these games? It was all homos? Make up your mind?

I have yet to see proof, no James Jacobs saying they didn't do that isn't proof, I mean someone at Owlcat saying "yeah paizo said no"

Absolutely. DH being shorter than RT is fantastic news but for some reason the fans are freaking out about it. Do they all want 200 hour slogfests like WotR where you aren't really having for for 70% of it?

I don't think most who answered those polls any played to act 3.

No way Gay Psyker from Outer Space is that high.
This is more like it. Yrliet shines in the later acts, while Argentina becomes irrelevant (story-wise).

Anyone who speaks for everyone is not worth listening in the first place.

Dunno who told you that, go look for fanart of this game and it's literally all Heinrix or Marazhai, and then you had Daeran in WotR (who also owes his popularity to women, but don't tell Daeranbros) or Tristian in KM
Femoids do play Owlcat games, and CRPGs in general, courtesy of Bioware. Even if there are obviously more men than them

Yrliet is alright, I wish they had written the betrayal part better so she doesn't seem so stupid.

I always pick Argenta because I don't want to play as Soldier but without respec mods there are no other Soldiers built to wield heavy weapons.

I have hopes that DLC 3 and 4 will pump up some content to the latter parts of the game.
I cannot convey how badly I need Abelard to introduce me to Trayzn

That blackie is really homunculus-coded. I don't trust her for one moment.

95% of Yrliet seething is how you don't get to fuck her. The coomers constantly expose themselves which is pretty funny.

Argenta's story basically ends after the Commoragh shit. She ought to have had something more going on for her in the later arcs, if not romance then at least fucking something. Her story is so barebones it's almost funny.

Is this how you cope? Convincing yourself that everyone that likes the character you don't like over the character you do like hasn't played the game to completion?

You have Pasqal with plasma, and later Yrliet with a sniper, I always trade her out after

Yeah. They would also turbosimp for Mahrazai if he was a female Dark Eldar instead of a male one. All the hatred towards the eldar characters is mostly just coomers seething.

Trvth

Do the AdMech actually believe the Emperor and the Omnissiah are the same or are they just paying lip service so they don't piss the rest of the Imperium off

people can't hate Yrliet because of how much of a cunt she is and because of her actions in act 3

people would totally like my husbando if he was a woman just ignore Camellia that was nowhere near as popular as even Wenduag

Always coping, always

It started as lip service the upper caste fed to the lower but 10000 years later most of them believe it.

Depends on who you ask within the Admech but as a rule they do buy into the whole Emperor = manifestation of the omnisiah copium.

The hatred against pretty much every character in these threads is coomers seething.

Most of the hate for Yrliet is fags mad she's a romance option at all.

True enough. The only character in Rogue Trader I sort of disliked was Idra but that is just because I am a racist and I do not like black people so she had no real appeal to me and I didn't take her along on any missions that didn't need her. Still didn't hate her though nor did I send her to the inquisition. Just stuck her fiddling her thumbs on the bridge.

kroot

girl

occupies the designated waifu statue slot

backstory is tragic outcast slop

you know when I first looked at the cast I thought owlcat went mad and gave us a negress as the main waifu, but now im thinking they are going to pull a mass effect and get us all to fuck the bird lizard monster

What's this supposed to prove? We're not talking about how many people completed the game, we're talking about how many people that completed the game ended up preferring Idira over Argenta

I saw idira more of a sister or is that just me?

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argenta? reeeee GW didn't let me fuck her this is a NWO blackrock jewish demoralization tactic

yrliet? reeeee can't fuck her only perform a far more intimate and special soul bonding even most eldar don't do with each other, need to put penis in pussy

idira? reeeee she's black and thus unfuckable

marazhai? reeeee he's a man instead of a sexy deldar waifu who could do the exact same stuff but this time i'd excuse her bc boobs

she is a SISTAH and a strong black kween

never ever EVER forget that back during the alpha and the beta both Idira and Jae were the bottom two characters, the only thing the game was missing was act 5

Fpbp

Yrliet is a terrible character regardless of the romance content, genuinely the worst written Eldar character in GW history, and 100% the worst character in the Rogue Trader game itself.

most of the people who answered didn't get past act 2, they don't have a full picture of the characters

Waifu fags are a particular breed of RPG weirdoes.

Prove it

yrliet is far from the worst, the entire cast of Path of the Eldar is insufferable

Edgy

teaching an admech girl the wonders of physical procreation

Some higher ups know it's lip service but also know it's to everyone's benefit to pretend so

I'd count people who completed part 1 as people who actually tried to play the game

Man, I'd love if TRIGGER did a 40k anime.

Magos Biologis do genetic engineering and organic augmentation instead of physical, most other tech priests don't get full cyborg until they're older anyways, regular everyday mechanicus still have most of their fleshy bits and genitals. You could play a tech priest in the dark heresy TTRPG.

Decent unit though.

why the fuck do normies buy 60 hour rpgs they have no intention of ever finishing

Why there are xenos in inquisitor's group? That's pretty heresy if you ask me

Prove that the majority of the people that voted on the survey didn't beat the game, or at the very least that they didn't make it to act 4

jae? reeeee she's brown

Shut the fuck up waifufag

I admit they are strong contenders and it is TRULY an achievement for Yrliet to be so terrible given the general quality of Eldar writing by GW, but I would still give her the gold medal unquestioningly. There is NOTHING about Yrliet that makes her a good Eldar character, at all. Every other character in the game manages to be a good, solid representative of the faction they're from in 40K, but she utterly and completely fails to do so at all. Easily the worst Eldar character ever made as a result.

Fun options for radicals or secondaries.

The fact you think I dislike Yrliet because of her romance is ridiculous. She's a failure as an Eldar and as a character, her romance could involve full on riding the RTs dick or not exist at all and she'd still be an absolutely garbage character either way.

the eldar loli must stay

Some like the Kroot are definitely controversial.

For me it's their grating accents, more than their skin colour. Jae is sexy brown anyways, Yrliet also has a nasty haircut and is a weepy retard.

The fact that we share this board with these waifushizos has made any discussion about CRPGS a colossal shitshow.

sorry, bro, but she removed her hypothalamus to install more RAM, which is the only kind of RAM she likes now

They don't, thats why this genre had to go niche.

I like their work, and they did a good job adapting western setting/game. They should do it again.

reeeee GW didn't let me fuck her

As per Starrok and her VA, yes. People still like her, so I don't get why you bring her up though

reeeee can't fuck her only perform a far more intimate and special soul bonding even most eldar don't do with each other, need to put penis in pussy

Asexuality is for freaks, also, her attitude and actions in Cumrag are both good reasons to dislike her. Again, I don't get why you bring her up seeing as she's still really popular

reeeee she's black

Normalfags hate blacks too... think about them, Wyll, Seelah, Sosiel, all unpopular, we'll see how the arbites is

reeeee he's a man instead of a sexy deldar waifu

How popular is Camellia again?

could do the exact same stuff but this time i'd excuse her bc boobs

I doubt it, the lack of self respect applies more to women than to men, but yes, Marazhai being a literal villain that gets you fucking tortured is a good reason for him being unpopular

yrliet is remarkably autistic for sure but I like that she's so unusually retarded for Eldar. she doesn't have a single manipulative bone in her body which is why she never fit in with the average machiavellian Eldar of her home.

Why though? I didn't mind her writing at all, and no, I didn't romance her. She to me, came across as just a lost, and naive, teenager masking her insecurity about her situation under the air of Eldar arrogance and aloofness.

I like Yrliet as an Eldar because she doesn't act like, think like, or do anything an actual Eldar would

I rest my case.

I hate waifufags so much its uneal. They also blame Yrliet on GW.

I don't know how many times it has to be said in these threads:
Radical Inquisitors regularly have xenos in their retinue. It isn't unusual at all to have one or two even for more traditional Inquisitors. Inquisitors can do basically whatever they want as long as a bigger Inquisitor doesn't accuse them of heresy for it.
The real question is why an Acolyte, who you play in Dark Heresy, has xenos in their cell. That part is unusual. Not lore breakingly so, but unusual. But it seems like Owlcat is making you a full Inquisitor rather quickly, so its not that big a deal.

If you mean the main trio then yes. There are plenty of good/great characters besides them. Though it was personally kind of fun seeing Aradrian demonstrating merits of the Path system by going full retard after a bit of danger and smelling that Dark Eldar pussy.

Eldar are superior beings. The fact she shows those flaws is the problem. Yes that sounds retarded but it's true!

yeah? i wouldn't want every character from a race/faction to act the same way. maybe it would've been nice to get a more normal eldar companion too and to bully yrliet and laugh at her together but having a weird outcast autist is fine.

The other Eldar ingame seethe at her. Marz for sure makes fun of her.

I really hope the DH Corsair is an arrogant princely guy who becomes your best bro/bf and not a typical cryptic nonsense eldar whose future sight leads them to enact the exact future they tried to prevent

Eldar may be superhuman beings but that doesn't mean that they don't have flaws and can't act like retards at times. Yrliet to my understanding, is also very young by Eldar standards. Basically barely above the age of an Eldar "teenager" who has not even walked any paths before becoming an outcast.

My issue with the Yrilet romance isn't from a place of being a coomer (Kibs got me covered) it's that you have to have so little pride to partner up with someone who sees you as bestiality. I get it, she's an Eldar and that is perfectly fine which is why in my non-blam routes I see her as a friend. She can be cool if you forgive her xeno autism but as a romance? Brother have some self-respect.

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You won't, won't you? Because you can't, because it's cope that you have to tell yourself to justify why X is better than Y

If they actually completed the game they would like my waifu more than the other waifu!

The funniest thing is that Idira's questline is as much of a nothingburger as Argenta's, and also Abelard's, but hey everyone loves Abelard, he gets a pass

Still haven't done it? Kill yourself and stop shitposting. Or post tits.

Because that's not what an Eldar is. Yrliet as a character comes off as a Human trying to copy and ape an actual Eldar and going way overboard on some aspects of it while simultaneously not understanding some of the other aspects at all, and completely missing all the nuance of their actual behavior and nature.

She is HORRIBLY written as an Eldar character as a result, can you honestly say Yrliet gives a good lens onto who and what the Eldar are in the 40K universe? Because she absolutely is not, Meanwhile, every OTHER character in RT does a great job showing off their faction and does so, generally, with style and panache, minus maybe Jae who really feels like she's caught between the two roles they conceived for her. Maybe you could've excused Yrliet by saying Owlcat just can't write Xenos, but then you have pic related who is pretty much the BEST Dark Eldar character ever, and so that excuse goes out the window. Whoever handled Yrliet botched her entirely.

There was no point to respond if the fact that most players never played even half the game is blatantly obvious. Thus most players who answered polls didn't play most of it either. If you can't see this you should repeat primary school.

that reaction image immediately triggers a kneejerk effect

kek mindbroken

Which chapter will the SM companion be from, and why will it be them?

I thought the whole RT cast was pretty charming. Even the space yiff is a cool dude.

babe you're hot but the nose tube has to go

It'll be a Night Lord, because they're usually not super Chaotic and joining forces is already teased by the trailer.

I just hope there's a happy ending this time, I can't stand bittersweet melodrama. Knowing the setting and system I think I'll be reading a plot synopsis and going through ending slides before I even pirate the game.

most players never played even half the game is blatantly obvious. Thus most players who answered polls didn't play most of it either

Really, why? Why would someone who frequents Owlcat's social media, especially their subreddit, not have completed the game at least once, and maybe even replayed it? Sounds like cope to me

that part where you take Eldar on board and they get lynched because presumably your RT was huffing paint at the time and forgot to take literally any precautions

Genuinely can't think of any writing I've seen in an rpg more retarded. They should have just removed the option of them accepting.

Reminder that Jae is literally approved by Big E

I never got that scene because my game was forever bugged aha

I would like them to accurately represent the faction they're highlighting, yeah, the same way all the other companions in the game did, from Pasqal to Abelard to Cassia to Mazrahai. The fact she utterly fails in this regard is inexcusable considering the excellence of the writing of all the other characters in this game do not suffer from the same failure.

He's a Warlock, not a Farseer. Also the only reason a Corsair Warlock would be on an Imperium controlled planet would be to set up a raid, so that will likely be a character conflict that will have to be resolved.

Mechanically strong doesn't equal beloved, you disingenuous quadruple nigger.

It is perfect

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Owlcat giveth and Owlcat taketh away

The designated waifubait character this time will be a female tech-adept that ends the game either 95% metal looking like a mini-Cawl for Puritans or a fleshy biomechanical heretek for radicals.

I expected it which is why I repaired their ship instead

I can't stand bittersweet melodrama

Weak. Pussy tier opinion.
Happy endings are for stupid people.

How many Eldar was that? Also, kind of strange how your xeno companions can survive on such an unhospitable ship solo and even kill dudes who annoy them where a whole group can't.

I WILL force the drama even if it makes no sense and you WILL enjoy it

Low IQ

HAPPENING!

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ork freeboota companion confirmed

Yeah that's a great example of how bad Yrliets writing is, the Eldar would never have accepted the deal, the RT even if they are a retarded Iconoclast moron should have options to keep them protected, a bunch of random crewmen are not going to successfully zerg down Eldar Craftworlders, and generally absolutely none of what happens in that little mission makes sense whatsoever. But hey the writer wanted to show Yrliet getting sad about how mean Humans are and how doomed her people are or something so let's just throw all logic and consistency out the window and force it anyway. Easily the worst written character they ever made, I genuinely on review think even Nenio may be better.

I'm fairly certain someone (maybe Abelard) tells you that bringing them on board is a bad idea

you have to have so little pride to partner up with someone who sees you as bestiality

You're a space jingoistic racist retard too you know

Iconokek isn't

I just refuse to engage shitposting. Go praise Gav Thorpe some more "eldarfag"
Kill yourself and stop shitposting.

Cassia, Ulfar, Pasqal and most recently Kibellah are the only decent questlines in this game. Every other quest is extremely half-assed most likely because the game was rushed, this applies not just to Argenta (who, for some reason causes the most seethe) but to everyone, including Idira, Abelard, Heinrix, etc..
Oh, and Pasqal's is the best one

Everyone knows pasqal makes for the best bath buddy too

WELCOME TO CALIXIS SECTOR GENTLEMEN

Dark Son was the peak of Gav's eldar writing imho.

Incubus protag

"oh, yes, Striking Scorpions, a perfect Aspect to take my first soulstone trophy from!"

gets his ass kicked by his first opponent

I don't think you can even 'romance' her if you are. It's not exactly a Strom Thurmond situation but in space. Whilst I really enjoy Cassia and Kibellah, a stereotypical racist-to-the-bone Imperial who abhors mutants and considers Voidborn to be only honourary really doesn't have any good option for a stable wife.

Ulfar is stronger than Argenta with his superior statistics and identical class distribution, assuming you're picking best classes for Argenta anyway, Jae is the 100% BEST class in the game, Yrliet with an Officer one taps everything, and Idira is arguably the strongest character in the game if you know how to perilsmaxx. Heinrix is also a stronger and more useful character than Abelard is and he's nearly 20 points behind him. The only character that is really bad mechanically is Marazhai because of how badly he's set up when you get him. And yes, I'm aware Jae has that issue as well but she's easily salvageable. Mechanical strength is not the reason for character popularity or lack thereof, in any case.

Normalfags hate blacks too... think about them, Wyll, Seelah, Sosiel, all unpopular, we'll see how the arbites is

Ekun and Idira were good, the ones you listed are annoying faggots

You sound exactly like people who claim that cuckoldry is the thinking man's fetish. I'm not kink shaming you or anything, and I don't care if you want to see your wife fucked by another man, but I think it would be healthier for you to simply acknowledge that you're the one with a slightly masochistic deviancy.

Argentas gets the most hate because it's such a slap in the face, she builds up to her great holy mission to find her relic for all the acts preceding it, then you finally get there she says "ok bye" and that's the end of it. It didn't even get a book segment.

who, for some reason causes the most seethe

Because she's popular, Idirabros here don't like how they both have shit questlines and yet everyone likes Argenta but hates idira.

Ok schizo

Because of the IP holders. Pathfinder is insanely pozzed setting and Games Workshop is also trying hard to negrofy its setting, only in their case its a bit harder to do because most characters wear masks and their audience is mostly russians.

the artwork women will draw if the Night Lord is a companion

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I knew Owlcat was not going to be able to keep the game grounded or low power in any way, but it does amuse me they can't even keep it to the one planet premise.

I'm looking forward to the gachimuchi edits, slavs will deliver.

How is he wrong? Be honest, you would rate a cuck ending higher than a regular happy ending because it's le bittersweet

, a stereotypical racist-to-the-bone Imperial who abhors mutants and considers Voidborn to be only honourary really doesn't have any good option for a stable wife.

Nigger Navigators are the most powerful faction of nobility in the Imperium, to the point even the literal God-Emperor of Mankind had to be wary of their influence and avoid openly antagonizing them, which is the entire reason the Heresy happened because his Webway project was absolute secrecy. The have a MONOPOLY ON SPACE TRAVEL for fuck's sake.

Even the most racist chud faggot in the entire galaxy is not so stupid as to look down on Navigators, in fact they're literally considered sacred and holy because their Third Eye literally allows them to directly gaze upon the God-Emperor 's light via the Astronomicon. Space Travel is only possible because navigators literally look up in the Golden Throne as a lighthouse in the warp

And people who only accept happy endings are almost universally diaper fetishists. They desperately want to regress back to when the world was uncomplicated and they could watch saturday morning cartoons where nothing bad ever happens.
Not kink shaming you or anything. I don't care if you shit in adult diapers and get off to it. Just think it might be healthier if you acknowledge your immaturity

All act 4 and 5 quests save kibbles' are rushed as fuck. I hope they get properly fleshed out one day.

She makes them seethe because no romance. Most Idirafags like Argenta because they have a paired up ending baka.

It's 100% Night Lord. Pic related is your companion

they won't be

You enjoy forcing yourself to experience unhappy emotions because you think it makes you a brave manly man, just admit it dude. You're just a masochist.

Yeah, it's retarded.

d1sarmon1a

This Ukrainian chick has some of the best Night Lord art and seeming everything else is shirtless men in some form of binding.

He forgot about Jacob from Mass Effect, probably the worst black companion in any rpg ever.

Life is harsh, retard. Good luck getting a happy ending for yourself.

What do you think about Cassia's political marriage ending and the ending where she stays with you and mutates too early?
Oh, and of course, what do you think of Yrliet's ending where she leaves for who knows how many years looking for a spirit stone and when she comes back you're about to die?

He forgot about Jacob from Mass Effect,

people tend to do that

But the prize....

2e is objectively worse as an RPG and I probably wouldn't play it if they made one.
Which is a shame because I bet that Paizo insists on it.

Real what were they thinking

Perfectly acceptable and make sense in setting.

really doubt a full on night lord is joining the party unless he's like literally a 1:1 knockoff of Zso Sahaal where he's a 30k night lord just plopped out in the middle of the Imperium without all the heresy baggage and is joining the party out of convenience because he's basically a lost duckling

A modern night lord who literally chills out in the Eye of Terror and sucks up to fucking Abaddon the Despoiler is not going to be a regular companion, at best it would be a meme replacement of regular companions like killing all your allies and turning them undead like Lich in WOTR where they're basically cardboard cutouts with no party interaction

You misunderstand me, I am not saying they want a Navigator Jim Crow enforced; I am arguing that romancing and marrying a navigator if you aren't her brother or cousin is such a headache and it would not be exactly appealing when she starts getting more mutated if you are the aforementioned racist chud faggot.

Ekun and Idira were good

And yet Idira is always at the bottom of every poll, it's been like that since the alpha (same with Jae)
I won't talk about Ekundayo because I wasn't there when Kingmaker was at the peak of it's popularity, but even if he was popular, that's one exception among four black companions Owlcat has made

There is no chance in hell that a night lord is going to work with a loyalist unless you go full heretical, and even that's a stretch. Of all the traitor legions, the eighth required almost no convincing to abandon the imperium.

Jacobs problem is that he is insanely bland
His quest was alright though

He can't be the worst if no one remembers he is even in the game.

Night Lords hang out in real space.

Incredibly based edgelord kino.

I think that's because she rapes you early game with perrils, her personality is fine

Perhaps if they make him a new Astartes? The Night Lords may be lazy fucks (I love them) but they do occasionally recruit.

Your INT is lower than Valerie's

that depends entirely on the mutations.
gills and claws and red eyes are still sexy
a mermaid tail and being able to see your cock inside her through translucent skin would also be perfectly acceptable future mutations (and are options on the rpg navigator mutation table)

Even those little kids that shit their diapers learn that putting their hand on a lit stove hurts and is not a good idea. You on the other hand learned it, discarded the lesson, and go out of your way to put your hand on a stove every time.

He will be like Marazhai, ally of convenience. Owlcat edgelord characters are consistently most beloved ones. Game has fear and morale mechanic and trailer hints at him. He is definitely there for more edgelord fanservice

I don't think you understand the problem with geneseed. It isn't just the legion culture that is fucked it's that your gene father was sadist and schizophrenic who saw visions of the future and your newly implanted organs are going to make you just like him

Night Lords hang out in real space

The vast majority are black legion hangers on and faggots fellating Abaddon, because there is no Night Lords codex on the tabletop so they are default CSM. Even if you want to run the few night-lords unique units like their recent kill team, you're still Team Abaddon as a black legion fanboy.

They're not s relevant enough legion to get special snowflake status like world eaters/thousand sons/death guard/emperor's children. If you play night lords you're actually just playing CSM and all your units are Abaddon's hangers on.

What class will the nigress be so I can choose that and not pick her for my party?

Owlcat edgelord characters are consistently most beloved ones

He uses Marazhai as an example, one of the least popular characters

Oh, and of course, what do you think of Yrliet's ending where she leaves for who knows how many years looking for a spirit stone and when she comes back you're about to die?

I didn't even get that one because after the slide saying she left I got one saying she was killed by Pasqal. Thanks buddy.

She's gonna be the medic/chirugeon

THE EMPEROR BETRAYED CURZE, HE MADE HIM AN INSTRUMENT OF TORTURE AND THEN CASTIGATES HIM FOR BEING ONE

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Feeling kind of sad from watching a story is the same as touching a hot stove

Anon, life is not entirely about avoiding pain, and seeking pleasure. Experiencing sad things is gratifying in its own way. Its not masochism to want to see something more emotionally complicated than "and then the good guys won, and the bad guys lost"

Adept/Chirurgeon

There will absolutely be a Night Lords companion, look at the battle mechanics they advertised, you can earn victory by terrifying your opponent into submission, that is the Night Lords bread and butter. We are absolutely getting a Night Lords companion.

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Mandatory tutorial companion, past lover, and narrator whenever she's not in your party.

Marazhai is basically a mascot of this game, people spam him everywhere. It's hard to justify recruiting him, but he is liked. Similar with with Regill and Camellia.

I agree completely and your post made me hard but we were speaking in the context of a jingoistic fanatic believer in the most dogmatic Imperial code.

Its so the Night Lord villain can use the same mechanics against you

no one recruits him

but he is liked

Similar to these companions that everyone recruits

actually, unironically, genuinely putting Camellia and Marazhai on the same level of popularity as Regill

You can't be serious kek

There was some hilariously based poster in the last thread. I was fucking dying reading this guy.

The BL books clearly state that the eight never went into the eye after the end of the heresy, and the majority of the legion is still intact, if scattered, and regularly meets when the need arises to wage the long war.

you can earn victory by terrifying your opponent into submission, that is the Night Lords bread and butter.

40k as a tabletop wargame literally has a Leadership stat you moron, that's how EVERY faction works and the fact Morale was missing from RT is Owlcat fucking up. You could just as easily say it's proof we'll get ANOTHER dark Eldar since they have just as much gameplay focus on morale as night lords do.

An NPC night lord warband showing up is pretty much a given but I really doubt you'll get a full on traitor marine companion who will happily take orders from a rookie inquisitor and his Kroot sex pet

There's a morale/intimidation system for both your party and enemies, and I was told you could tailor whole character builds around scaring your enemies so much that they surrender.

"Any unit can lose their grip in combat, start to panic, even shooting their own [teammates] or fleeing from combat," Shestov said. "We decided that when you're playing as Inquisitor, you need to frighten your opponent. So you've got an option to not just kill everyone or talk.

"You can just make them scared as fuck, and you can make them surrender to you. One of the ways to complete the fight is for enemies to surrender, and this morale is a separate entity. Lots of abilities work with [the morale system]."

Marazhai being unpopular is the direct result of not being available until Act 3, and the fact that most players will (righteously and correctly) kill him when given the chance. You have to actively metagame to get him into the party and ignore logic to take him with you, it's the same reason Idira has a lower popularity rate, because if you are actually roleplaying your character, you blam her just to keep yourself, your crew and your ship safe. I actually feel like Owlcat does a really poor job of setting up reasons for some companions to actually be with and stay with the player, they just plant a companion flag on them and call it a day.

I hope we have another sexless female Eldar romance, but with kissing and cuddling!

I get what you are saying but if you take a clean geneseed from the historically pure Curze line and implant it in a boy and raise him as a loyalist then there is no clear evidence for either nature or nurture. The schizo ramblings are definitely a factor.

Talos turning his room into the average Arkham cell of Calendar man

He has most fan content than your waifus. Fandom builds cvltvre.

The Tyrant Star, even assuming we're going with the "controlled by a daemon prince" fluff, is not exactly a friend of the traitors. Could very well that we initially assume the two are connected by then we see the NL warband get buttfucked by the TS too and we get the option to join forces if you're rad enough.

Nigger read a chaos codex, I'm sorry your favorite chapter isn't relevant enough to have their own army but night lords are Abaddon's henchmen the same way iron warriors are, you're not important enough to get your own relevance

Marazhai is basically a mascot of this game

When has Owlcat ever used him as a mascot?

people spam him everywhere

Women. Women spam him everywhere, anyone who isn't a woman is most likely just going to kill him and move on

but he is liked

Similar with with Regill and Camellia

Camellia doesn't even come close to being as popular as Regill is, not even half of it

>He uses Marazhai as an example, one of the least popular characters

Source? I loved that guy I thought he was hilarious. He was an immature and childish edgelord but I thought he was well done in that regard.

mfw reading the thread and seeing that waifufag chimp out at random anons now while I haven't even posted anything about Eldar itt yet

I somehow managed to make him even more schizoid with yesterday's threads.

but will I be able to execute them all after they surrender

Owlcat does a really poor job of setting up reasons for some companions to actually be with and stay with the player, they just plant a companion flag on them and call it a day.

Basically, I turned her over to the inquisition and shot aliens on sight.

40k as a tabletop wargame literally has a Leadership stat

nta but it functionally really hasn't for a decade

They said in a interview somewhere that he was more popular than they expected. Probably from all the fanart they saw.

True, how could I ever forget one of the most popular WotR characters, Lann.

Morale in RT ttrpg only applies to space battles

to my memory, the RT RPG does not have a morale system on the individual level, just overall crew morale for your voidship

Act III is basically set up, rp wise, to make you choose Yrliet or Marazhai.
If you refuse to accept her back, Marazhai's help suddenly seems far more logical, since he's a deldar and a local that might be useful in escaping.

I see men liking Lann more than women at this point.

strange how eldar fans continue to mog the rest of the 40k fanbase despite their faction eating endless amount of shit in lore. i guess being consistent good on TT and causing huge butthurt for other TT players has its perks.

You have to be joking my dude, Regill is a popular character, but he is not an edgelord. Marazhai and Camcam are memes and no one actually takes them into their party, they are nothing but moldering corpses in most players runs. CE edgelords will always have a few people who really like and enjoy them, but they're never going to be widely popular characters since that kind of character repulses most people quite a bit.

well naturally, you're with the Inquisition after all

mfw I posted that in last thread

I love Sisters

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You get the space sharks then, and they're unhinged enough to make most loyalists wary of them. There's a reason the imperium is skeptical at best about using traitor geneseed

You have to actively metagame to get him into the party and ignore logic to take him with you

What are the requirements? I actually got him relatively easily. When I played anyone who had a portrait I would just kiss their ass whenever given the opportunity because I thought they would be recruitable. I feel like Calligos was hard to read because I helped him and shit but he still didn't join me at the end of the quest. For Marazhai all I did was just ask him to work with me after I sabotaged the trial. I don't know it didn't seem really counterintuitive to me it was pretty straightforward.

Fine, you can cope all you want. Screencap posts if you want. There will be Night Lord companion, I tell you. Same deal as with Marz, who is a villain fucking you over in Act2.

Yeah but he still has a few dedicated foids that love drawing him, so that must mean he's really popular I guess

Did Night Lords appear in any other vidya, not counting being skins in DoW or SM2/EC with somme voicelines.

You looked for Lann twitter art gulp...

I completely disagree, after seeing the hideous horror that is Commoragh I would expect the rational and logical reaction of most players and people would be to ventilate every Eldar with extreme prejudice. The most you could argue is that the RT would use either Marzahai or Yrliet to assist in escaping Commoragh and then kill them afterwards, either way, Marzahai is not living past Act 3. Especially when they drive the point home of who and what he is when he starts torturing and murdering your crew on the first trip through the Warp.

In 9th edition dark eldar were literally the most powerful army in the game for a bit when their coded released which has a lot of morale focused mechanics including a strategem that allows you to punish the enemy by literally torturing their warlord and broadcasting his screams across the entire battlefield

Battleshock in 10th edition is mostly a meme because GW gave everyone leadership stats several points higher than they probably should, if passing it wasn't a foregone conclusion then shit like the nid army rule would actually be pretty decent. Stuff that automatically battle shocks is still a significant punishment, since losing objectives and no stratagems is a real penalty, the problem is the actual percentage chances are so low it's never something you can plan on.
Another longtime issue is that damage creep means that units often go from 100-0 in a single phase so morale mechanics aren't relevant because damage creep means you're either fully alive or fully dead with little room in between

Whilst I like them and I am a Night Lord fan, I'm willing to concede them to the Raven Guard. Maybe they're a mix but I'm not that attached where I'll argue with a Son of Corax about it.

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based & true. I immediately knew we'd get a NL companion when I first saw the trailer, the presentation and speech is obvious.

When I played anyone who had a portrait I would just kiss their ass whenever given the opportunity because I thought they would be recruitable.

So, you were metagaming. Do you know what the term means?

Shereen ;)

When the resentment and hatred towards the Eldar and their fanbase is basically fueled by r/asianmasculinity tier sexual frustration and seethe, as well as just massive butthurt for being on the receiving end of some Eldar bs on the tabletop, it produces rather pathetic types of anti-fans. Eldar fans in turn, can remain confident on the ground of our faction having the best looking model range in the game, and consistant lore that has not received any retcons that fuck over the entire faction, even the nonsense of the Ynnari stuff ended up just adding another flafor of Eldar faction into the game in the end of it.

In hindsight I actually don't see Marazhai as that villainous. At the time those events in the capital were happening yea I thought he was a serious problem but then I thought back and I noticed that he never actually attempts to harm you or your party. In fact I think he was fascinated by you after the first meeting. For a Drukhari he had shown a tremendous amount of restraint.

Congrats, there's several retards like you that ape on Noldorfag as if its a personality trait. You all deserve the same reply. And I wont be assed to distinguish
Kill yourself. Stop shitposting.

Plenty of AdMech have children during the earlier years of their lives. Sex and lust is generally frowned upon, but still a part of AdMech life for a lot of them, though it usually becomes less so with age as they have to replace more and more of their biological body. Besides that cloning vats are used a fair bit on the biggest forge worlds, but that makes up a relatively small percentage of the new AdMechs.

tfw damage creep is going to ruin HH too due to the new edition

I don't even care about marinewank that much but it was nice having a side game where the rules weren't consistently shit or teetering on the edge of a bottomless pit of shit

No, mostly CSM are black legion, world eaters, word bearers, and the occasional death guard.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were a chimeric chapter. The book drops enough hints that the NL and sharks share the same blood to the point where the NL are unnerved about it.

What's the release date/window?

Life is entirely about avoiding as much pain as possible. Experiencing sad, uncomfortable and painful things is not pleasant, enjoyable, cathartic, or any other descriptor you wish to use. Those emotions are undesirable, and one would be wise to avoid them altogether.

Some pain is unavoidable, it is an unfortunate fact of life that everyone has to live with. But it is another thing entirely to go actively seeking for it and then enjoying the sensation when it happens. When it comes to fictional works, they can be happy, fulfilling, satisfying and complicated all at once, unlike real life. That is what makes them so precious.

he starts torturing and murdering your crew

Wow not lower deck poor oh nooo

That's not the point. The point is that
Dogmatic proper Imperial will kill him because he is a Xeno
Iconoclast will kill him because he is evil
Heretic will kill him because Slaanesh and Deldar are enemies
It's hard to justify recruiting him realistically. Using him to get out of space detroit and then giving him to Henrix is the most logical thing short of killing him outright.

They were generically used with no unique dialogue for Eliphas' campaign as an enemy but even in campaign that is basically just a skin. They are in BFG2 but just as an option for a fleet aesthetic with no special lines. I heard Inquisitor Martyr might make a dlc for them but I don't know.
I love Night Lord art, it's pure edgekino

What are the requirements?

The game literally tells you "YO MARAZHAI IS THERE GO TALK TO HIM" and then you do so, and the option to become allies appears, it's extremely easy and simple, he's just coping. The actual reason why nobody recruits him it's because he tried to fucking kill you and tortured you

FUCK!

Night lords more like dork lords lmao

Lmao, keep on seething m8, I'll expect seeing you still spouting your mantra at random people by the time Dark Heresy is out.

Dark Eldar being mercenary subordinates to Rogue Traders is literally something there's entire RPG rulebooks to and was surprising to no-one.
A straight up fucking traitor marine taking orders from a noob inquisitor who's only just taken over from his dead boss is a lot harder to justify, especially given how much control and authority you have over companions in a CRPG. Is a fucking chaos space marine really gonna put up with being bossed around by a rookie corpse-emperor lackey? What possible motivation would he have for sharing a dinner table with a goddamn Kroot and Eldar Corsair?

sad movies shouldn't exist and no one actually enjoys (>enjoys) them

Next year surely

Tau and Eldar are very similar in the seethe quotient and for somewhat similar reasons. The only difference is that Tau don't get assraped in the fluff which causes near terminal seethe from Imperium fans. Otherwise their rules-based seethe is mostly based on 20 year old memes about the fish of fury.

Life is entirely about avoiding as much pain as possible

I've never seen a more immature and shitty take in my life. I'm guessing a NEET who tells everyone they won't work because its difficult or painful. Someone with one of those fake ass "medical conditions"

Nope, even GW barely remembers they exist sometimes.

So you only consume children's stories?

Saved, art and insult.

but he is liked. Similar with with Regill and Camellia

How much time do you spend browsing /crpgg/?

True enough. Eldar getting fucked over in the BL novels by whatever protagonist faction the writer is depicting is basically the only thing a lot of the eldar anti fans have to try to start shit with.

Usually I assume that means I would be reading online guides and reading what the exact specifications for recruitment are. I never had trouble recruiting anyone in this game besides Calligos which I failed at. The dialogue options are incredibly obvious towards recruiting Marazhai unless of course it was lucky on my end I didn't research anything the only thing I distinctly remember sealing the pact was speaking to him in the Haemonculi's Anatomical Opera and I saw dialogue options for making a deal with him. Then during the arena fight you just remind him of the deal and he immediately joins you there was nothing complex about it besides 2 dialogue choices.

Considering RT let you recruit both a CSM and a SM and they took orders from the RT just fine, I'm sure Owlcat can come up with plenty of reasons for a Night Lord to work with and take orders from an Inquisitor if it's mutually beneficial for him to do so.

What possible motivation would he have for sharing a dinner table with a goddamn Kroot and Eldar Corsair?

stinky gang scum inquisitor pussy
the usual owlcat secret ending will be about taking control of the tyrant star as a radical inquisitor and marrying your night lord wife

they also had the "lol your entire range is old enough to rent a car" until very recently, thank god Jes Goodwin is a turbo autist who ensured the eldar range refresh was as faithful as it was though god I love those new warp spiders

Isn't martyr nearing the end of support? They added in offline mode a while ago because people were getting worried about losing the game

Slaanesh and Deldar are enemies

Slaanesh thinks the Deldar are hilarious actually, they represent her tenets in the most pure way possible and are a renewable source of the most delicious pain-wracked souls imaginable.

Yeah the new aspect warriors are pure sex while remaining perfectly faithful to their original aesthetics. I am hopeful that we'll also get new Dire Avengers and Karandras eventually.

I mostly meant the initial choice and throughout act III
Once you hit act IV sure, though he does offer further stuff that a greedy RT might want. Also you know by that point the romance starts, so RP wise there's that as well.

shame he didn't intervene to fix the retarded dark reaper masks. also he needs to enforce more fur collars and fur capes on the eldar models, as you see them on his concept sketches all the time but they never materialize in plastic.

He just overdosed on epicureanism

have a bonus
forgive the primaris

Heretic will kill him because Slaanesh and Deldar are enemies

No, I killed him because the motherfucker tortured me

why is he carrying a Bratz girl

If you keep making the same stupid arguments sure. If you stop, you stopped shitposting.

Metagaming means you are making decisions based on the game itself rather than making decisions based on what your character would do. In other words, you are basing the decisions of what happens in the game based on knowledge that comes from outside the game world and setting you're being presented. You, as a Dogmatic RT character for example, would blam Idira/Marazhai, but you, the player, know that they are companions so you invent justifications to take them with you anyway because you want to see their content. That is metagaming. Which is exactly what you said you were doing, you altered what your character would do and say when you saw someone with a portrait, because you, the player, knows that means they have a higher degree of importance and may be a potential companion, rather than ignoring that and just doing what the character you are playing would do in the given situation.

I dunno he just does

but they never materialize in plastic

We got the visarch's glorious pimp cape but I agree we need more exotic fur on eldar models

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Considering RT let you recruit both a CSM

When you recruit Uralon what happens? I haven't done it or even attempted it. Does everyone else just get mad? Do certain people leave?

I know Eldar fans get annoyed about the Omnibus but it actually made me really like them. Especially how The Eldar and Jain Zar out think the Night Lords and trap them like prey. I get some people think Jain Zar should have wiped them out but outside of two guys and a dreadnought she literally did and the Night Lords were in a place custom built for them and their tactics. Also it took a suicide bombing to finally incapacitate her after she tore through some massively experienced Astartes who again were quite literally in their element.

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People will correct you if you spout your uninformed and retarded opinions regarding the lore of the setting as if they were facts, no matter how much you bitch and whine. Remember that all of this seething you have done in the past few thread stems from you being wrong about Eldar lore.

Nothing, he just stays there on the bridge

This guy was clearly meant to be a corsair model, right?

why is he carrying a Bratz girl

Kek I remember when I was a kid my mom would roll her eyes at those things and just call them the little whore dolls.

He basically is, he ditched his aspect shrine to simp for Yvraine

I actually cant, I forget they exist until you reminded me. I'm going to hold onto this grudge for ten millennia.

I'm not saying they shouldn't exist. I'm all for letting people like what they like, that's why I don't care if gay porn, scat, NTR, drugs or indeed, tragedy, exists. If you're into those, I'm going to think you're weird, and won't be seeking the same experiences. But I also won't judge you for liking any of them, you like what you like and that's the end of the story.

Hardship is not the same as pain or sadness. It is one thing to climb a hill to enjoy the view, even if the process of climbing comes with hardship and some amount of risk. But it's another thing entirely to free solo speedrun the entire thing, or watch a video of someone free solo speedrunning and failing and seeing their corpse splattered on the rocks. I won't judge you for enjoying either of those things, I'll just think you're a reckless adrenaline junkie or a gurofag.

Depends. My favourite video game story is in Planescape: Torment, but I also really liked Kingmaker and WotR, as you had multiple happy endings to choose from in both those games. Even the brightest RT ending was a massive letdown in comparison.

Almost certainly. A lot of the Ynnari stuff seems to have stemmed from some retarded attempt at GW at the time of removing the "inappropriate" elements from 40k, like Slaanesh and Dark Eldar and Ynnari would have been the vehicle for squatting the Deldar. Or that is at least the speculation.

I was playing an iconoclast with a heart of gold though who had tolerance for everyone except servants of the archenemy.

You expect actual content and reactivity in an Owlcat game past the mid point? Ho ho anon, what a fine jest.

favorite game is PST where the only ending is accepting your horrible fate

The idea behind his design language, according to jes goodwin, is that it's meant to be baroque and evocative of the eldar 's ancient past pre-modern split, he's supposed to look like a pre-fall warrior which is why he has shared design elements of craftworlders, corsairs, and dark eldar because all those factions descend from the same source.

can a RT or Inquisitor get away with having a mesugaki gf

it's okay hecking dark eldarino that almost kills me and my entire party, I forgive you!

Yeah, more like iconokek

Funny how the aspect of Talos and crew constantly scavenging loyalist armor because all their shit is falling apart just stops working because all marines were replaced with primaris wearing big boy pants

Mate, you praised Gav Thorpe in relation to his handling of eldar. You don't know shit about eldar. You genuinely praised Gav fucking Thorpe. You lost any and all authority at that point, nothing else you say is valid or correct.
Just stop shitposting mate.

pedophilia among imperial nobility is near standard. especially pre-2010 novels often mention "teenage" sex slaves and harems.

If you are an Iconoclast why would you let Marazhai live after he tortures and murders your crew? You're supposed to care about them if you're an Iconoclast. Oh yeah, and there was also him leading all the raids on your planets and taking millions of slaves to be torture raped to death. Come on man, there really is no justification for any RT on the conviction paths they gave to keep Marazhai around, except MAYBE Chaos so you can sacrifice him to Slaanesh later after getting your use out of him.

Even Talos' anti-chaos group hung out in the warp most of the time.

Fuck I hate primaris marines so much they're so fucking dumb.

nta but Gav wrote great lore for the Eldar, it's the actual plot that nearly always sucks

in order to explain how CSMs are able to still compete with Primaris, GW just said CSMs are randomly becoming Bigger CSMs

bravo James Workshop

It's blatantly obvious to anyone who can put two and two together that it's happening.

You just get thrown in the blood war and with aol the power and experience you have accumulated by then, it's not too bad of a deal. And even if TNO can't do it on his own, I'm betting Annah and the rest are perfectly happy to go some spelunking in the planes to go drag him out again.

AVE DOMINUS NOX

If it happens I worry it'll be ultra half baked and poorly implemented like the csm in rogue trader is

Gav's "lore" can be as good as he wants if he goes ahead and absolutely fucking ruins everything after. And even his lore is fucking retarded, as recent as the stupid changes they did in 10e. Though that's not him anymore, just the legacy he left behind.

being eternally stuck in a hellish conflict (even if you're powerful) is good

Can any Eldar fan recommend be a story about them that is actually good? I want to like them as much as I do the Elves from Fantasy.

How will the inquisitor lord react to this

as calmly as Dumbledore

I'm betting Annah and the rest are perfectly happy to go some spelunking in the planes to go drag him out again

Only Grace (aka best girl) is

IN MIDNIGHT CLAD IN MIDNIGHT CLAD IN MIDNIGHT CLAD IN MIDNIGHT CLAD IN MIDNIGHT CLAD IN MIDNIGHT CLAD IN MIDNIGHT CLAD IN MIDNIGHT CLAD

I praised him on the speculation that he is what keeps eldar waifus and half eldar out of the setting. Speculation that thus far, has only been spoken in these threads. And if it is true, he is based because waifuniggers like you deserve to suffer and half eldar deserve to remain firmly non fucking canonical in 40k.

Your only "interest" in eldar is your waifunigger fantasies, you do not collect eldar or give a fuck about them. You kept denying even basic fucking aspects about Eldar lore like how Eldar are superhuman both physically and mentally to baseline humanity, and claimed that somehow supposedly dark age of technology humanity was able to "blow eldar the fuck out" when nothing in the lore of either the Imperium or the Eldar has ever even alluded to humanity having posed a threat to the Eldar before the fall. You are a secondary retard, that is seething at being wrong about the lore.

Primaris were such a mistake. Genuinely just a terrible mistake. The worst thing is the models aren't all bad. I mean bigger and more detailed plastic is good.

Can any Eldar fan recommend be a story about them that is actually good?

Path of the Dark Eldar by Andy Chambers
Valedor by Guy Haley (literally the one time craftworlds are allowed to be as cool in lore as they are on tabletop)

Anon, it's owlcat, that's a given.

By that point in the story they were severely decimated.
Still, they have the last laugh, xeno scum.

He's not eternally stuck, what are you on about? Denizens of the planes can and do cross over all the time.

lol
lmao even

What’s this?
*the lord inquisitor calmy screamed while crushing his amasec glass with peaceful force*

Hey man he didn't have a choice to be born drukhari. I also forced Yrliet to kill her own people on janus and she didn't seek revenge. The drukhari raids would have occurred whether or not marazhai existed or not.

So he just smirked? What kind of response is that? Who just emotes when someone asks a question? Is he autistic?

The Dark Eldar trilogy is genuinely kino and has great characters. Especially the Haemonculus and his wrack assistant.

Brother he's dead, he loses his immortality and then his soul is cursed to go there and wage war for all eternity

Flavius Bile will asspull Chaosmaris Marines

Valedor is probably the best there is. Asumen and Jain-Zar are okay and detail some pre-Fall stuff which is interesting.
Path of the Eldar's main cast fucking sucks but you see a lot of things like how life aboard Craftworlds works, it's good for lore but bad for plot.
If you're fine with Drukhari, Path of the Dark Eldar is actually good.
The Forges of Mars trilogy has good Eldar bits although it's not about them, and Shadowpoint has the single coolest Avatar of Khaine ever written. The recent Lelith Hesperax novel was good too although some people will seethe about the gays and the trannies, as if Eldar weren't always written to be David Bowie.

I want to BE a Night Lord not just have one as a companion

Have you played WotR? did you play Angel or Azata? are you a Wenduagfag?

I'm not going to argue with you on that, I like them both. But even TTO remarks that Annah's feelings towards TNO burned the fiercest and I'd like to acknowledge that.

YOU sound autistic

I don't think many people genuinely hate the models (outside of the helmets). The lore really is just that insultingly mind numbing. They should have just scaled up and called it a day, I hate how they fuck with lore just to boost sales by a percentage.
Hanna le (google ai told me it is Aeldari for 'I thank you')

People who hate Gav Thorpe shouldn't forget that he never wrote 3 bum Marines starving for ammo and equipment failing at their plan to surprise Eldar with explosives (explosives didn't explode) still surprising them and killing 40 of them, including a Farseer, 6 members of Seer Council and at least 1 Exarch, with 0 casualties before running away from a greater army on a barely working thunderhawk or landraider because they are bum Marines.

I AM autistic

I won't fucking engage with you on this again mate. But just a reminder that this was never about your lore and codices. This is about Rogue Trader and Yrliet's romance existing specifically (I didn't need to defend Marazhai because the caricature that you are means you don't attack that romance existing)
You also had several other people blow you the fuck out along the threads. I'm just the only one autistic enough to still tell you to stop fucking shitposting.
And the fact you are willing to praise Thorpe on ANYTHING shows you are a disingenuous cunt.
So stop shitposting.

Maybe we'll get lucky and get black crusade game in the meantime, I'm tiding myself with ttrpg

Based boomer Malcharion, him old person storying that woman was amazing.

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Instaliling toilet cams across the ship holds to jerk off

Let's not forget when Eldar grav tanks are disabled by children throwing rocks at them, Eldar with scouts in their army forget to use scouts and how the Eldar who get BTFO by said civilians and a couple Space Marines mostly just cower in the dirt thinking about how awesome and cool Space Marines are and how they never stood a chance.

His soul is intact, and experience doesn't simply disappear. You can see it in the final cinematic, TNO's soul goes into Avernus in the shape of himself. Normally, a sinner condemned to the Hells would take the form of a lemure.

This is about Rogue Trader and Yrliet's romance existing specifically

You can romance Yrliet? I thought you only have psychic sex with her and then she freaks out.

The basic Mk.X Tacticus armor is okay. Phobos armor is retarded with the gucci loafers and Gravis is termie armor with downs. And so many of the vehicles are beyond retarded like the go-kart ATV.

Space Marines are created from sissy hypno-indoctrinated twelve year old boys shoved full of gay space daddy cum and then surgical and cybernetic augmentations. You don't want to be one and even if you could you'd need to hope a night lord molested you as a child to make more the same way his own gay uncle did.

Being an inquisitor is a way better deal than being a marine and you can even get your own set of Terminator armor instead of having to share an antique suit with a thousand other dudes

How do you find people to play with? I don't know anyone who plays the old TTRPG

It's a >"romance"

Hanna le, Lelith is Druchari right? I think if any faction outside the Emp's Children have that stuff then it would be them.

Bowie

Harlequins to a T

that is the romance. yrliet is super racist even for eldar yet she spiritually connects with a human far more than most eldar do with each other. at the end she also holds your hand with the implication things might eventually progress from there, she's just hyper-autistic about touching filthy humans (unlike most eldar btw, there's been corsair princes with human harems).

solo play using generators all my friends are normalfags so its my only option

It is. She refuses to share.

with the implication things might eventually progress from there

The cope... will never end!

you can touch her hand the spirit world and that's about it

He will be dead and you will take over his duties. That's when you will be able to recruit Xenos and Night Lord

Halfway through RT when I got the power armour I larped as a Night Lord romancing Kibellah. I used and edited this sissy's portrait for immersion.

Have you played WotR

No I haven't I actually have it I had both of these games gifted to me but I started with Rogue trader like 3 months ago.

I played her romance through so yeah, I know what I saw. are people this autistic that they can't read into basic subtext?

Good. All xenso factions are exclusively for showing off how awesome and cool space marines are. That is their entire purpose in the setting, to sell more space marines to 14 year olds.

Is one of those from Goto? He actually had a funny story where Eldar were both scary and competent: they slaughter a whole company of Dark Angels plus reinforcements consisting of a Terminator detachment, a Thunderhawk, and 3 drop pod dropped Dreadnoughts with their Exarch leader personally killing the captain and 1 dread. They just forget to check the only notable landmark around for a hidden sniper nest with a Vindicare blowing the exarch's head next day during a speech.

I always found that sort of thing funny, even in fantasy, the druchi aren't above keeping human girls as bedmates

Yes anon you totally fucked eventually, and you also had half-eldar children

*scary and incompetent

I won't engage with shit I was proven wrong on

Lol
Lmao even
And yes, it was about the overall lore and the codexes, on which you were fucking wrong. Wrong about Eldar being superhuman, wrong about DAoT. And the reasons why the romance between Yrliet and Rogue trader is shoddy at best ties to Eldar lore and the mental gulf that exists between humans and the Eldar, a fact you kept denying.

So keep seething about never having your self insert get eldar pussy then, and keep chimping out at random people in these threads, I do not care, I will just laugh at your nonsense when I spot it.

Razard makes it canon

make a new thread