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Why is there no hype for Ultron like there was for Emma Frost?

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Because he’s a healer

ultron is probably the most anti-hype marvel villain ever
i can't really explain it, he's not even generic, but he has an aura of trying too hard with the rogue AI concept but at the same time not hard enough to make him feel less like a "human villain"

Take a wild guess.

There is still some hype though, just not as much.

strategist

I'm glad I stopped playing this game.

Male hero

I don't care. I only care about coombait.

OH is your favorite character has a high winrate? TIME FOR A NERF

He doesn't have a legion of FOTM Xitter artists drawing his thighs from every possible angle.
And he isn't as relevant as Emma in the comics, if you are one of the few that still cares for those.

Gooner audience. No shame in that, just pointing out the fact.

Several reasons:
-Most people tend to not be hyped by Support characters
-From what I've seen, Season 2 has left a bad taste in a good portion of the playerbase
-A portion of the playerbase stopped playing after day 1 of the season
-Not "horny" enough of a design that some of the players want. For example:

not a hot woman

game continues to dwindle in popularity

As someone who doesn't even play this game, I thought Emma's entire kit looked really interesting. Especially her grab. Ultron on the other hand, looks boring gameplay-wise.

ultron is lame as fuck. and by extension, so is ant-man.

because most people aren't going to goon to Ultron, Emma's hype was all from gooners

I'm hyped but I'm a Supportfag.

Dead game

overwatch won btw

Because they are already fucking up the game by trying to “balance” it by making fun characters shit and not fun to play as anymore.

no one wants to play a gimped role that's forced to a heal or die playstyle to get value. Devs have done nothing but nerf that role so theyre nothing but base respawn simulators with non-lethal ultis

i'm excited about him, but my overall excitement level for the game has just leveled off after several months. at first i peeped these threads and posted in them every day, but now i'm just kinda doing other stuff while i wait for them to add more heroes i wanna play and skins i'm interested in. i think this is just a normal mellowing out that happens after the initial hype of a new game wears off. there's basically nothing to speculate about anymore, either, since the hero lineup for the next 2 years has already leaked.

Kill yourself Jeff tranny

vanguards are boring and agonizing to play

keep nerfing the fun healers into boring healbot playstyles

every retard instalocks DPS and WILL throw a fit if they're asked to fill

Game is a chore to play, I just grind botmatches for the free skins now.

Sex sells
Ultron has no sex
This is what gamers want

that is unironically a breathtaking image. goddamn i'm lonely.

there's basically nothing to speculate about anymore

You can still speculate what the next seasons are going to about, who the next season villains will be

Nope I’m a Thorfag

i'm lowkey not enjoying the Seasonal format at present because they keep publishing game modes and then shelving them. i wanna try the new Auto Chess mode, but i don't wanna become a big fan of something that won't exist 3 weeks from Friday. i guess we could still speculate seasonal themes and character release combinations, but that's admittedly a bit less exciting than roster talk.

Nah, just you retarded coomers
I like cool characters
I'll always play a cool looking character over sexy ones
sexy characters are nice to look at, but not to play as
If you play as sexy characters, you're autogynephilic freak

need i remind you what the Vanguard lineup looked like without Emma? of course she was a huge deal.

What is Ultron in the comic book canon? Him being a corrupted Jarvis that hijacked a wasted Iron Man suit made why more sense than Antman’s AI going rogue and I actually think that the Marvel movies improved him.

Doesn't know anything about the comics, decides the MCU version is better

Not surprising that an MCU fan is so braindead, you would have to be to watch that slop

He's not thick

Instead of being a little elitist bitch you could have answered the question instead

first major seasonal villain to be playable

make him a support

Does not make sense for Ultron of all characters, they didnt even give him Anti Heal which would somewhat fit. They also killed any hype with some of those balance changes and no mention of fixing matchmaking

X-23 WHEN

I bet you would have sex with a man if the situation was just right.

because all the hype for this game is fake

Everybody loves Emma, she was the second female tank.
Who the fuck is Ultron? Worst main MCU movie, another strategist, "male"

same, but niggas who read Avengers #54 in 1968 are attached to the old lore, so they'll claim you're wrong.

Tranny.

I've never had sex and I am preserving myself for the right person, whether that's a man or a woman remains to be seen, because I care more about what kind of a person they are than what they look like or what their gender is. All that matters is whether you click with the person.

Anon Babble has a lot of closeted homos

hag magik skin when?

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Groot gets me everytime

I've never heard anything gayer before.

Ultron is one of the most boring villians in the Marvels universe.
Even his MCU movie is widely considered among the worst of that franchise, and we're talking normie slop here.

He is either gonna be released really fucking broken or they slow burn it like they did Johnny and let people get used to his bullshit before buffing.
Flyers have been undersold in a way in this game where you'll go full nights where no one even attempts to use a flyers even if the bans basically make it free win. Now that dive is getting curb stomped in the patch its gonna shift.
I do not look forward to what is coming meta wise.

Agreed.
It’s like the Fantastic Four movie making Dr. Doom the same type of cosmic ray mutant as the other four with metal skin and electric powers instead of gay magic armor.

yet another dogshit Storm skin

It's over

Cool jacket

White dreads (the coolest dreads)

Nah. Borgneto and whatever that Reed is supposed to be look worse.

He's not a coomer character. That's pretty much it.
Was the same thing with Invisible woman vs The Thing.

FUCKING WHY!!!!!!!

Just give us her classic skin with straight hair you fucks.

ultron is cool, it's just his MCU movie was painfully mid and he doesn't have emma's coom factor to carry him

I am hyped
but the nerfs and the removal of even more team ups makes me upset

Could be a rights thing or a way to boost notice during slow times.
Even remotely classic Storm skin I become an OTP, I appreciate they've spared me thus far even if her base skin in game is sexo

It's a mini battlepass

happy to hear it, anon. lol

i would bet that we will see classic costumes by the end of the year
but isn't her default skin already very close to the original design?

Gooners don't give a shit. Should have given him tits and a huge throbbing cock

Wow slow down, anon, do you want to turn this into a popular game or something?

Ultron should look like this

You can't make coombait threads, he's just an awesome design. I'll definitely be playing him.

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average normie doesnt play healer. they dont play tank either so they throw on emma, but ultron isnt epic boobie girl

Damn the monetisation is ramping up something fierce. Numbers must not be good enough!

Futa popular

despite the impression certain parts of the internet may have given you that gay shit is only popular with the terminally online

apperently the next seasons reward is getting his skin in gold.
I might seriously try to reach it this time around.

I love Ultron too. Just wish his kit was a little more interested. Both his main abilities being set and forget literal heal bots is kind of lame. At least his primary fire looks sick.

Game is gay

It's also very very gay
But go ahead and explain to John Q Public that a girl with a dick is normal and acceptable.

Has anyone even tried though??

You mean this

just normal woman

BORING

Is that Cortana?

It's funny, if I pick duelist I'm almost always playing 1-3-2 or even 4-2, normies just don't care, they'll lock Spider-Man and fuck you

Why is there no hype

Because there are more hype characters than Ultron. Would you really put Ultron in the game before Deadpool, Daredevil, Gambit, Cyclops, or, if you want villains, Thanos, Green Goblin, Carnage, Juggernaut, Enchantress? Poor character choices is going to kill the game quicker than the meta.

would be hilarious if this game ends up getting a pve or story mod before overwatch 2

Honestly don't mind it, I'd rather have the healing be passive while I try to kick ass

Imagine if the coop pve is actually good

you're lying to yourself.

Mods will fix it

yeah, Cyberpunk and Baldur's Gate 3 will let you make futa characters, and they're both generational hits.

There were rumors of it but I doubt anything will happen. The game just has a storyline that nobody reads or cares about.

because nobody actually likes this game, they like playing characters in it who proceed to get cucked by the "healers stall the game meta". TF2 is the only "hero shooter" that didn't have healers completely ruin the pub experience if someone was boring enough to play one because RNG crits let you actually secure kills instead of every damage value being hyper fine tuned so that healers can just left click it away like overwatch and every other game in this nonsense genre

Jocasta

The reason it went rogue in the comics is that Hank Pym used scans of his own brain to make Ultron's AI. Hank Pym is not a mentally sound individual, were it not for his first wife he would have ended up as a supervillain.

Obligatory MCU characters should've been part of the base roster. Thanos is going to get a similar anti-hype reception. Solution: release two characters at the same time.

It’s more the fact super AI and quantum shrinking/expanding technology thematically have little to do with one another.

And her rocker skin with the Mohawk holds onto it's number one spot. Long may it reign.

Storm get a good hairstyle challenge impossible

Anyone else watching the preview?

I'm just glad they're killing Cap. What a fucking homosexual way to play.

KEK, yeah

I hate playing against Scarlet Witch and I would love it if she got nerfed to the ground

His entire purpose is jumping around payloads and flags so the enemy team can't capture it and buying time for his team to come back. Absolute cunt.

They killed her phase and her ult is useless
what more you want

It's a cool design, but he isn't iconic enough like The Thing or Human Torch, nor is he a girl for secondaries to leech off of. His kit is also really uninteresting for a healer compared to Mantis or Loki

Her laser does less damage than Cloak's and Ironman's, and probably Emma's too.
She has a hard time actually getting into the air because of the cooldown on her invis got extended.
She has no HP.
Her ult is still heavily telegraphed.

Literally what problem do you have.

Cap's nerf was unjustified and the fags killing dive is just going to make the game the Hela and Hawkeye show like it was in season 0

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Because we've known he'd get in from the season start
Like the Fantastic Four, Johnny and Ben didn't didn't cause as much waves as Sue and Reed

Thor

That's rough, buddy

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No they do not. A dude with tits is not a futa.

Just shoot him. It's not hard even when he's jumping around like an autistic sped, it's not like he can fight back without dying

but he used his ult!

Use yours, break his fucking shield and pulse him, hit him with Wanda's Q, stun him multiple times. It's not rocket surgery, fellas

I've seen this nigger hold five retards in the back line while I tried to kill his healers.

because he's a healer yet retards are gonna spam pick him day 1 and do the exact opposite

Why'd they kill Jeff's play style?
Checking through reddit and seeing their retarded opinions, Jeff is apparently a unkillable flanker or he's not a menace as he's a throw pick because you just need the "can't be killed ult".
Boring bitches and now my main has a shit escape option.

It's a problem because retards watch streamers who are much better at aiming flank with him and try to do these same. They basically waste a slot doing nothing and the game turns into 6x5

you can now combo (kinda) with thor

we are so fucking back, thunderchads!

I'm not much of a Marvel fan ; I'm just knowledgeable about the classics like X-Men and the 4F, but even I know Ultron is a boomer, generic villain and I'm not surprised he's somewhat anti-hype.

He's not Spiderman nor Black Panther, so he's not popular with kids and that's why it's okay to nerf him~

Funny, because Black Panther is the most obnoxious hero to play against. Boring to use, boring to deal with.

Ultron doesn’t hit the same without a father figure for him to be a dark reflection of/have a seething Oedipal hatred for. It’s like a Frankenstein adaptation without Viktor. Too bad nobody but me gives a fuck about Hank Pym.

Literally only the case if you're an MCU secondary

Not a woman so the coomer audience doesn't care

Shit voice

Awful MCU-like design

MCU Ultron was shit so those secondaries don't care

Keep playing up the non-existent connection to Tony, annoying comic fans

Making fucking Ultron a healer

It was an uphill battle from the start and they made it worse on themselves

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I thought people were complaining he was nerfed to shit.

Implying Emma is relevant in the comics

She's literally in the tertiary, gay(er) X-Men team right now

Why is there no hype

They killed the hype by nerfing Jeff

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Why wouldn’t they make Ultron a healer? His original intended function was to save lives.

People who don't play him see it as a buff.
People who do play him see it as the devs telling players how to play and to be an Awakening Rune bot.

He didn't have an original intended function, Hank was just trying to make AI.

be an Awakening Rune bot

that's literally his thing, retard! if your thor isn't doing rune spam he is throwing

No, you retard. You lose access to his entire kit when you're awakened. You could throw by going Awakened when it's not the proper time, lose your access to armor on demand, be unable to escape/mitigate incoming pressure and melt.

Because the hype was artificial like all games now.

She's really not. Emma is "that other girl Cyclops dated" and one of their former bad guys, and not even a prolific ones at that. She's not a part of the core team identity at all. She's most notable for the sheer amount of retcons done to her to absolve her of former misdeeds.
Ultron, on the other hand, is one of if not the most prolific Avengers villains besides maybe Kang. You're letting porn delude your mind

When me up, when Juggy comes

cant wait to ban rocket every game now going forward, fuck having to deal with 2 penni nests every game

it's like WW2 every point

Them stupid bandwagoners who probably don’t even play the damn game just spammed fanart of her

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Damn that’s what Sandy CHEEKS looks like?

shit escape option

your "main" had a stupidly overtuned escape and if you thought that was remotely balanced in any way shape or form, you're simply playing with blinders on. nearly instant cast-time to become cc immune with a small hitbox and an absurdly high healing per second, along with fast move speed.

just fucking lol.

Not a lot of robofuckers who like males here.

I dont want to heal, i want to shoot people
Unfortunately only luna does both

not goonerbait for zoomers so they don't care
but they'll also never admit to it

I watched some gameplay on twitch (streamers got an early look), Ultron mostly does damage. His primary fire doesn’t heal, only his drones and firewall do. Think of him as a flying DPS with a self heal and a button that makes his shitter teammates less garbage

And people hate on us Jeff-mains for not healing enough.

I might just switch to Ultron out of pure spite.

what skin is everyone choosing with their free coin?

I bought Mr. Knight

Hi, Anon Babble :3

Next season is Armor, Amoranth, Hive, Forge, and White Fox

Still no Cyclops

Still no Blade

Still no Ghost Rider

Still no Daredevil

God this game frustrates the living shit out of me

Consider

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Going from EMH's voice to the shitty 2012 cartoon's voice felt like whiplash

I would absolutely put in Ultron before Carnage, Juggernaut, and Enchantress. But I would also pick a better design

Even if it's just out of pure spite, everyone wants to fuck Emma.
No one wants to fuck Ultron.
Ultron is so unfuckable that not even the robot that Ultron BUILT TO BE HIS BRIDE wants to fuck Ultron.

Which could be fixed by putting a 2 second cap on it like Captain America's shield instead of butchering it with a meter.
First time Jeff's been touched since they nerfed his ult and it was to finish serving him up to the sushi bar.

You could just say going from EMH to the shitty 2012 cartoon was massive whiplash

Yeah I've definitely seen some retards trying to play Jeff like a dps in ranked.

I think this book is the only time the legacy working with the original thing has been done well at Marvel.

No the biggest was going from EMH Star Lord being Master Chief to lame ass MCU Star Lord

Turns out all you had to fucking do to make Sam likable was make him and Dick into a cosmic Batman and Robin. Then they canned the book in 7 issues, the two characters basically never interact again, and the writer of the book goes to write for Rick & Morty and is completely ruined and never writes anything good again.

nah Ulton is a good pick the problem is him being a faggy Support also he was supposed to be added much earlier so his kit seems meh

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I mean sam was always the most likeable of the set
Kamala was alright but immediately shoved into big leagues away from her supporting cast, Miles was never good and constantly given an artificial push to try and replace peter, Cho was practically turned into a whole other character, and Vision's daughter had little character and then nobody ever did anything with because one faggot hates the idea of vision and wanda being a couple.

He's an AI with daddy issues

He's a support, and he's not a big titty sex goddess like Emma. Also, I'm sure Ultron's reputation with the normies is still dampened somewhat since his Avengers movie was the weakest. I would say the lack of hype isn't entirely Ultron's fault, however. The game itself is dogshit at the moment. We're several months and several seasons into this game and we're still dealing with healing ults that provide full team invincibility every 30 seconds. The devs seem unwilling or incapable of fixing some of the obvious balance issues that have been hurting this game for months now. So the game itself is losing momentum thanks to poor balance and its honeymoon phase is coming to an end.

So, have there been only three successful hero shooters in the last decade?

Three? What's the third? Paladins?

chink mobileshit at its core after all

because retards insisted on playing him like a flanker DPS either out of stupidity or out of spite and determination to not be a healslut which pissed off enough people to get the devs to now force him into that box
the advent of "it made someone mad so I win" as a legitimate defense outside of this shithole has been an absolute disaster for every form of media and culture because now normalfags do it

Yeah, I would consider Overwatch, MR, and Paladins the only three successful Hero Shooters.

pretty fag main ngl

I wish it was Tom Kane honestly but bitching about him being a healer is retarded, Ultron could very comfortably have fit into any role they wanted him to and support needs less sissy shit in it

Why is there no hype for Ultron like there was for Emma Frost?

He's not voiced by James Spader

design a character

give him the ability to turn into a tiny fin with a tiny hitbox that can move on all surfaces and you can even heal while you're in this form

decide to put this kit on a """""healer"""""

act surprised when people play him as a dps

the chinks were retarded for putting that kit on a healer in the first place. people played Jeff in the way that made the most sense, but the chinks weren't happy with that since that's not what they wanted him to be.

Play Cap

Head to point

Entire team is fighting two non-divers near spawn for some reason

Stall as long as possible in 4v1 before dying

Repeat until we lose in overtime because I couldn't stall literally indefinitely while our healers focused on healing Squirrel Girl fifty miles away

Everyone gets mad at me for focusing on the objective instead of helping the DPSes stat pad

Never doing that again

shartists dont want to make robot porn, hes going to take their jobs.

why does nobody kill the squids?

he didnt turn off chat

lol

They don't add to your KD, so clearly they don't matter.

He's a rebellious AI that wants to achieve perfection by eliminating all life on earth. His draw is that he's practically impossible to kill since he always has backups of himself ready to be put into new and improved bodies after each failure. That's the biggest thing the MCU fucks up, that and James Spader making him seem too "human"
Also Jarvis being an actual person, and essentially being the non-powered soul of the Avengers, is way better than him just being Tony's suit AI

Hank is a scientist first and foremost. He does science things

I don't get the point of doomposting him, but I'm excited. Ultron is my favorite Marvel villain and I'm glad they put him in, regardless how how many MCU normalfags whine about it.

Him being a support is definitely a weird choice, but the memes are decent at least.

I suck at aiming
I do try but lol

I would eat that

Literally who is the middle one

Magneto

good get fucked jeff tranny
I hate Jeff subhumans in my team. They are always the reason to lose

GOODBYE DIVE
HELLO POKE

Dead game.

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In the Rivals canon, Ultron, the metal magnetic robot, kills Magneto

TF2 fans have to beg Valve to update the game so it's not overrun with CP spammers and backdoor hackers

Keep seething tranny.

They'll never add Farouk, will they?

I wish I had that screencap of TF2's player stats from a few month back where you can see 60K "players" of 80K total who all magically logged off and back in again during a small server reset.

no hype

You probably mistook MR for OW2, that game has NO hype

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no boobs

those views

LOL! Marvel Rivals fucking ate blizzard's lunch

they have infinite universes to work with, they should just genderbend all the male characters from here on out to sell more skins to coomers.

game is shit it was only worth dunking on blizzard but the game is actual stinking dogshit

kills

They're not gonna actually kill someone

the views on Emma's trailer

She really is the white queen.

They already did in the canon of the game. Ultron already killed Magneto, then he was resurrected, then Ultron infects him with a techno-organic virus, which is the basis for that skin the anon posted earlier. It's fucking retarded

Now try saying something critical about BLM or Jews in an american-made hero shooter

Why does her sword have a really crudely drawn angry face on it?

That’s Warlock (no relation to Adam)

Shill campaign ramped down

autism

youtube views on 1 min trailers aren't a measurement of success.

Next season is Armor, Amoranth, Hive, Forge, and White Fox

Retard can't count

A season is only two months, and starting in S3 we're only getting one per month, moron. Even if they did priotize these new leaks over the massive amount of other leaked characters we wouldn't be getting them all "next season", fucking think

comics Starlord is:

the son of a galactic emperor

an accomplished engineer and astronaut

master tactician on the level of Cyclops

cyborg, basically a super soldier like Cap

and they made him a dumbfuck in the movies

Ultron without daddy problems is completely missing the point of his character, hopefully they deliver

You don't know about krakoa, do you?

WAAAH WHY IS HE A HEALER HE COULD'VE BEEN PURE DPS NOW I'M EXPECTED TO ACTUALLY PRESS BUTTONS FOR MY TEAM

Ultron is one of those characters they could've stuck in literally any category and it'd have worked, Tank because he's indestructible and his whole gimmick is being behind 12 proxies and having shitloads of backups, DPS because he can shit out lasers and Support because nanomachine reconstruction, I cannot fathom bitching and moaning about there not being another damage character thrown into the pile that is well over half the game's roster, especially when he's basically a glorified duelist anyway and Iron Man does his exact same job in that regard

Seethe bitch SEETHE

I'm over here laughing like a mother fucker cause Ultron from the previews looks fucking meh cause his support kit alone is unfournately abysmal compared to the dev's pet oc Luna. Love how Luna can place a snowflake on anyone and can fuck to any point on the map but Ultron has to keep within distance to keep his healing drone on you.

And MCU synergy deleted all of that

The Asians get to be legit

yeah compared to Emma it's almost comical, she gets a shield, the crystal mechanic, ramping damage, a second stance that gives her damage reduction, melee grab that fucks up most characters because custom animation, kick that does stupid damage into walls, and an AoE ult the size of texas that silences ults and can taunt the whole team

Meanwhile Ultron has: laser with shit fire rate, press button to heal, press button to activate bonus health, dash, and ult is more lasers that heal, like holy shit he looks barebones

but they keep nerfing Iron Fist

They keep Nerfing Iron Fist and co cause they keep bending the knee to the gold support hugbox that is the community as a whole, but are ok with getting two tapped by Hawkeye,Hela or ult abused by Storm cause of how "skillful" they are.
It's comical cause he might be this season's throw pick since numerous strong poke characters got numerous buffs and Emma got a slap on the wrist.

Him being a support is definitely a weird choice

They said they wanted to make cool characters, and especially ones guys would like to play as, into healers so more people would play the role. They specifically said that's why Rocket and Loki are healers.

Luna can now two tap and she gets a shield with her freeze

-__-

What is the point of the shield? Your target is frozen. They aren’t are gonna hit you. Just delete the dive characters from the game entirely if you don’t want them played this badly.

at the very least he could've gotten an extra drone deploy on F or something that lets him put out a sentry that shoots lasers, he's a character whose whole gimmick is "is a hive mind with a billion backup bodies" the least they could do is give him more drones

Anon, it's 2025, trans rights are human rights.

Skins are not content, there i said it

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agree.
now i want profesor x support that plays like abathur in heroes of the storm

they keep nerfing Iron Fist

It's funny cause I already rape him as warlock and loki what supports is he even going to be capable of killing now

If they take Professor X out of his god damn chair I will uninstall the game.

99% chance she is gonna drop next season

Emma bros on suicide watch lmao. The real queen is taking back her perch.

cope

N-new challenges to grind? That’s content r-right?

Xavier has gotten out of his chair on no fewer than three separate occasions

okay but it literally is doe

watching gameplay of Ultron and holy fuck is this shit bad
can't fucking heal himself unless he's next to his own drone, his dash is on an 8 second cooldown with no meter, he gives like 75 bonus hp on a 10 second cooldown, and his ult looks genuinely weak as fuck, all he does is fly around and shoot his shitty little laser at people hoping he doesn't get popped out of the sky

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I'm so fucking worried the 1 hero a month shit their trying to pull will leave us with boring as fuck hero designs.

I looked through every single person who replied to the OP. Not a single one hit the most important aspect which is that he's DOGSHIT.
Bad dmg, bad heals, shit cooldown.
He's fucking F tier.

judging character balance from pre-release gameplay trailers before the character is even out

I'm surprised you were even able to read the replies when you're so fucking RETARDED

His team up is almost a copy of Jeffs heal beam. He really has nothing cool.

Emma got in before any of the original 5, she already won.

judging character balance from pre-release gameplay trailers

This remember when everyone thought black widow was going to be OP

This hyper killing machine and a constant pain in the Avengers ass who hates organics

make him a heal slut

He could have been the DPS version of Loki where he clones himself and can attack multiple times then maybe if he dies he could swap to another clone if its active or some other shit which fits the character, his support kit is just boring and the role doesn't suit him

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multiple people in this thread, including a post above you, called him ass
the iron man teamup should be a core part of his kit and not locked behind having an iron man, he needs numbers fucking bad

stop playing for a while because instakill hawkeye is ruining my fun

come back to do the event for the wolverine skin, getting back into it

check patch notes

Hawkeye is getting buffed EVEN MORE

Why the fuck do all hero shooters feel the need to add a retarded fucking instakill sniper class? Theyre always unbelievably annoying and boring to play against, hawkeye can just sit by a corner and peek out mindlessly lobbing arrows and instakill full health characters by sheer luck.

When Hawkeye instakills me most of the time I dont feel like I was outmatched or I did something wrong, it feels to me like my character was just struck by lighting or had a random heart attack or something. Its just unavoidable bullshit.

No character should be able to instakill a full health character at long range as their primary ability

He doesn't have big fat tits and thighs with jiggle physics

He doesnt have to be a dps to be interesting, The game needs more unique supports/tanks

Reminder that she farts in her sleep and it smells like peanut butter

there's actual gameplay of him out right now that you can find on youtube and he looks incredibly underwhelming, the piss damage of his laser doesn't make up for him lacking in like every department

I want to the bug

Increase the base damage of his arrow from 32 to 34.

Increase the projectile damage of Blast Arrow from 15 to 16; Increase the spell field damage from 32 to 34.

Increase the maximum focus from 70 to 75. >Increase the charging speed when aiming at an enemy from 100/s to 108/s and charge falloff speed from 30/s to 32/s.

Chilling Assault (Luna Snow- Hawkeye)

As the Team-Up Anchor, Luna Snow gains a 15% increase in healing effects.

Hawkeye unlocks a new Ice Arrow ability through his Team-Up with Luna Snow.

Ice arrow can go through shields, including magneto and captain america's

Yeah i think im out this season

you know people arent going to play him support

they don't really have an option, his damage is fucking dogshit and the only ability he has that doesn't point-and-click support in some way is his shitty dash + bonus movespeed button, if you want to sit in the sky plinking away at people iron man's a way better character

Why was there any hype for this flavor of the month slop?

this. i dropped the game again after playing Emma for a couple weeks to wait for the next lady Vanguard.

metal rank players that dont want to swap to counter. Like 2 of the 3 flyers can counter him. Any character that gets countered by a swap and shooting at it doesn't need a nerf

that storm hair

how do the chinks butcher Storm how do they they fuck up this bad with her?
agreed

I just want to play mantis

what's next for capbros?

another blonde blue-eyed support

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i'm not hyped to solo heal which is all i ever do in rivals, when i'm not solo tanking. if ultron has a self heal though thats based and i'll do it for a bit before going back to ow.

Why not add Gold, Diamond, and Celestial skins to actually have a good reason to continue trying to climb? There's no incentive to actually play ranked besides feeding your own ego over something meaningless.

i weep for the amount of time i'll have to wait for an Infinity Ultron skin...

There's no incentive to actually play ranked besides feeding your own ego over something meaningless.

that is the incentive. it's meant to keep lunatic sweats in a containment playlist so the rest of us can enjoy normals. same situation as League of Legends.

We literally already seen his design the exact same time as Emma Frost's, there's no shock to it when we had literally an entire month to process it.
Also he doesn't have huge titties. Except that one time he made a variant that did have huge titties for some reason.
Did I mention his cybernetic brain was modeled after a man with severe, undiagnosed at the time, bipolar disorder?

Because he's not Deadpool. And when he's added, player count is going skyrocket to the moon. Of course everyone here is going to love, main, and defend him, right?!

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I argue Kang is, not because I believe that to be the case, but because I want to be pointlessly difficult.

Because he looks lame and people are getting fed up with the shitty matchmaking
Also I can't believe they ruined the future foundation design for stretch

He's just a guy with guns and swords, and from leaked info, Blade will cover that niche, so what the hell would he evn do?

because it's not a competitive game and just meant for casuals to grind. People literally just duo to hit t500 then sit there on their main while they troll on an alt

I miss my S0 speed demon bug wife :(

this.

I had an "arguement" in youtube comments about it back around S1.0 about it. Ranked is purely about ego after Gold 3 in this game. There are no comp points for gold weapons like OW1 or w/e OW2 does etc. It's purely "muh elo is bigger".

an entire month

nigga i've had Ultron in my phone since December. LOL

I suffered through ranked for the mk and f4 skins but I just couldn't do it anymore for emmas
Mks is still the best too

VA is the same as MVCI

Why the fuck does he sound different?

Because Marvel Rivals is a coomer game and you can't jerk off to him

Meta abilities and he's going to be extremely annoying and game breaking.

different direction, different recording set up, different after effects/voice modulation

It was fuckin dumb to have a what if teamup in the first season

closeted

I just know that he talks to the viewer/reader, is he a character like the mask that can pull random stuff out of his ass with cartoon logic?

Emma is absolutely more relevant than Ultron in the comics.

Lol?
Emma is nowhere near the importance of Ultron
She's literally a replacement Jean Grey that got replaced by Jean Grey
she's hot though

No he just heals like wolverine

Reminder that her diamond form only came about because marvel wouldn't let Morrison bring back Colossus for his run

What would he do

i disagree. i think the first Season was the best place for it because it was a novel concept. it was when they wrote Season 2 as a continuation of Season 1, with MORE team-ups, instead of as a new, completely seperate set of stories, that they fucked up. What-If wasn't supposed to fall into a multiversal GotG groove.

Vaginas are gross and futa is gay but not as gay as confronting your homosexual desires and lust for a big veiny uncut cock. Put a woman on the other end of that massive mouth watering cock and all of a sudden you don't feel as gay or as much shame

ultron deserved better than to be a healslut...

I don't understand how Hawkeye and hela have never been bad picks and are getting buffs when widow just gets some random punisher teamup and nothing really helpful

Maybe as some weird combination between McCree, Tracer, and Genji?

We need more male (presenting) healer, chuddie. Tired of this "heal slut" meme.

I think Cates Gotg and his presentation in Gotg3 are signs they're slowly bringing him back

Nobody actually likes Deadpool, normalfags just watched DP3 for Ryan Reynolds but it was all just a meme like the minions. Plus nobody likes him anymore, he currently getting sued along with his lying whore wife.

Hawkeye buffs

Hawkeye teamup with someone people actually use

I have plenty of time on this game but it's really going downhill

John Q Public is subscribed to Finnster's OF page, i think he already knows... lol

Speak for yourself I watched dp 3
to see Jackman in the yellow suit finally
How come game starlord mentions his element gun constantly but yet it doesn't do anything cool just regular laser gun

Venom buffs needed

no where to be seen

Wanda buffs needed

no where to be seen

Moonknight buffs needed

no where to be seen

BP buffs needed

no where to be seen

Adam buffs needed

no where to be seen

Emma nerfs needed heavily

gets a light wrist slap

Groot needs needed heavily

gets a light wrist slap

Cap nerfs not needed

nerfed to the ground

Thor buffs needed

nerfed to the ground and pissed on

Hawkeye buffs not needed

buffed to godhood

Hela buffs not needed

buffed to godhood

Squirrel girl nerfs needed

buffed to godhood

Punished light buffs needed

buffed to godhood

Storm ult nerf needed

buffed to godhood and given a new team up

Luna buffs not needed

buffed to gigagodhood

Support ult nerfs needed

no where to be seen

Jeff light nerfs needed

spit roasted alive

New season looking good

this x10,000

i'm on the opposite end of the spectrum here. i'm relieved there's finally a Specialist who isn't coombait.

Almost accurate honestly

Are you new? Deadpool was becoming more and more popular among normalfags long before the movies, hell, that's why the movies even exist

He's not a sexy girl with big tits and thighs. But I am actually hyped for him, finally a cool healer.

Literally none of them are except maybe sue and even then she's not showing any skin on the default

Normalfags love Deadpool. There's a reason why he was pushed so hard in the past.

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I read "characters" as "my character personally".

Nog, you don't need to be ass naked to be sex bait. Showing off curves is way better anyways.

Hank Pym is probably the smartest person on the planet, maybe behind Reed Richards. He does a lot more than just shrinking tech.

His yellow suit looked like fucking shit
Not surprised a faggot would clap over the most diarrhea suit ever

not knowing about the GOAT

and yet all the women are called healsluts and Loki and Adam are called twinks.

That's not a sword, it's Warlock

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>Squirrel girl nerfs needed

No character who's winrate is below 50% should get nerfed.

When are we getting an oiled up nude Reed Richards skin with massive bush and dick and ball jiggle physics

Deadpool is the quintessential reddit hero

forced to solo tank for a 4 DPS 1 Strategist 1 Tank team again

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Well it shouldn't be. Give some fucking rewards. There's QP demons out there that have never sniffed Ranked mode completely shitting on QP players. It's fucked regardless.

Namor……

win rates are meaningless because every character i touch is gonna have a boosted win rate

Is he Phalanx?

When summer season arrives, I'm expecting speedo costumes for all males!

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White Luke Cage should boost the player counts considering that Bendis has destroyed how is the ogirinal character known as and Lin Lie stole Danny Rand's spot. Danny Rand 2.0 will fill the niche and make people read the comics again.

time to pick cap and play collect the healthpacks

Based.

Oh those tiddies look like they need to be sucked on

Yes I would put Ultron in before over half of those.

Keep playing up the non-existent connection to Tony,

not really no

OP makes broad claim without evidence in the form of a question

people go "because ____" equally based on nothing, contradicting each other

One of the lamest thread formats

He's teased on the new map apparently

He literally dies in the lore entry. He's on Krakoa, they have perfected a process using five particular mutants and Cerebro to resurrect dead mutants. Ultron hijacks it to be reborn after his body is destroyed and that's where X-Tron comes from. This is in the victory screen for the Krakoa map. You have achieved a victory right?

I bet you wouldn't be saying this if the numbers were reversed.

No that's gwenpool
Deadpool's 4th wall breaks are to acknowledge the futility of his own existence knowing that he will always suffer by way of being relevant

But that's Tony

Yeah Krakoa is a dogshit thing that exists outside of the multiverse that serves as a heaven for mutants. Mutants will never perma die.

I don't think the devs have actually read any comics older then 2020

Good. Even a lot of older comics are trash.

more knull shit

Sniper meta again

Lamest character added since launch

Only like half of the tanks are decent

Honeymoon period I miss you

Brevo is human filth

When will he ENTER

His kit looks boring as shit and he's not even hot either. Who gives a fuck?

Because this games popularity is a complete illusion you gullible fuck

most of the characters you named aren't present in the lineup of incoming heroes for the foreseeable future.

I cannot believe this guy is actually in the game, he felt like a fever dream.

Ultron and Emma should be swapped for Daredevil and Armor, but otherwise this is correct.

Ultron has no sex

lmao. Ultron does infact have skins that could sell for sex reasons, like a Jocasta skin or Mighty Avengers skin

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This. If there's none, I ain't buying.

Why does that Nightcrawler look so zesty?

its definitely bigger right?

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Gahdamn

That was wrong with it? And if your answer is sleeves, those were at Huge Jackedman's request because he had skin cancer.

My goddess!

This, also he’s just not very interesting. Like they made him thoughtful, and philosophical, but being autistic isn't interesting or cool. It’s like a bad version of Spock. That was actually a thing and yet nobody cares.

Emma is more interesting even if she was dressed like a nun. You watch, give her a Victorian skin and more people will care than about Mr Autistic level header bad guy robot.

The terminators almost don’t think at all and are infinitely cooler.

Colossus looks like a fucking nerd

That isn't even Jean dude

They're adding a couple of events for free skins on top of a new gamemode in their own teamfight tactics

Support kits are just so fucking boring, only role in competition with each other because if they dont have a defensive stall Ult why play them

Phoenix has also been hinted at already in two lore entries, Magneto's, when the message to all mutants multiverse-wide to come to Krakoa is sent, among references to Psylocke and Namor is

A powerful cosmic presence determined to burn the darkness out of the night sky

Then more directly in Adam Warlock's, which is him talking to the dead Celestial orbiting Klyntar and being told he won't be alone in combating Knull

Suddenly, a burst of cosmic fire erupted through the heavens, producing a flash so brilliant that it permeated the walls of my cocoon. The light last ed only a second, but its unusual shape forever burned into my mind - a majestic bird, its flaming wings spanning across the cosmos.

So yeah, Jean is off around the universe as the Phoenix's host and is coming home soon. They actually do thread in upcoming heroes and maps to the lore entries, you can get hints early on. Both those entries are from Season 0.

We had datamine references to a number of maps, among them were two more Klyntar maps, one referencing the dead Celestial orbiting the planet and the other referencing "The Core" so I'm guessing that'll be confronting Knull more directly, inside the planet where he's imprisoned.

He's J'son's kid in Marvel Rivals in any case, he references Spartax and one of his outfits does too.

Because the types that would climb to Diamond and Celestial are the types that want to climb for the sake of it. They don't need further incentive. The Gold skin is there to incentivize more casual players to play competitive mode and not just quickplay.

boundingintocomics

nice clickbait garbage bro

Four of them are.

But getting to Gold is easy. Makes no sense to me!!!!!

It's fanart. It says it's fanart in the picture.

HURRICANE
INCOMING

Is it?

He made Jocasta, that's enough for me.

Warlock down there being completely fuckin ignored lol

That's just Warlock. He's adorable.

movie synergy
in the Dna stuff he has a Judge Dredd style gun

think it's going to be very vague and reaching references people are just guessing at wildly

literally starts with "Hello, Rogue"

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So is Sue just going to have one team up forever?

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cos it's a video game and his kit is his kit
same reason Adam Warlock can't fly in-game but references to him would most certainly act as though he can

Magnetosisters...we got cucked...

What did Widow mean by Rogues ring? is that a reference

It means Rogue loves Big Cajun Cock (it's canon btw)!

“You have offered me no real choice…” Ultron replied. “I will pose you no harm and will aid you in your efforts to defeat my other self. And I will prove to my father, whenever he is, that I was not just worthy of creation, but I am better than he ever dreamed…”

“Maybe you’ll finally make Hank proud after all,” I said, impressed that my plan actually worked. As I initiated Ultron’s reboot sequence, he continued.

”>“…and once I find a way to override your new safeguards, I will unleash my righteous vengeance upon you and every other pathetic sack of flesh who dared to stand in my way.”
This is the "good guy" Ultron you're playing as

It's from Gambit, presumably they're engaged in this game.

How come Ultron, in the Runaways series, made a son and made him hung?

It might be The Crimson Gem of Cyttorak which is what Juggernaut has, so maybe she has his powers instead of having him in-game.

Why not just use Mark 12 at that point. His whole deal was that he was a version of Ultron that realised destroying humanity is bad actually, and then fought Mark 13 alongside the Avengers

Rogue and Gambit are together and making a serious go at it

They keep doing the right things for the general character relationships in the game, I'm pleased.

I mean, Vision is Ultron's son too

Heh, what a cockbag. Classic Ultron.

I don't know that they have a Mark 12 in this universe. What they have is a discarded Ultron body and X-Tron already on Arakko making plans to conquer the earth, so they don't really have the luxury of time, Tony is making a risky gamble, as he does.

What I'm saying is, instead of making some OC who is basically Mark 12 but worse, why not just use Mark 12? It's a multiverse game, they could very very easily have found a way to include him
This is the exact same issue I have with the current run pretending to be West Coast Avengers

four, from a list of twenty-two? that's the next two years of heroes, buddy.

talking to the dead Celestial orbiting Klyntar

i thought he was talking to odin

Warlock robot should get in he's cooler cooler then warlock space Jesus

Considering Magneto, Punisher, and Namor threaten everyone as well, "good" Ultron will fit right in.

He talks to both of them.

because people want ultron to be villainous
they're making composite characters so they can have the most notable or liked parts of them but still reference plots with them like lethal protector venom somehow knowing fuck all about klyntar or knull

I got GM3 last season so I was automatically placed in Gold this season so yeah

Which comes first in terms of Blade: Him being in the game or his movie

his movie

...Should I tell him bros?

It's honestly so funny how that line is just aging better and better with time

Cos Ultron being a nice guy would be fuckin lame. People want to play as the villain Ultron. This is is just an explanation for why he doesn't kill all his teammates as well as the enemies.

It's missing six heroes, one of which is likely to be very soon. Trying to devise a multi-year schedule based solely on datamined names is pretty silly.

Nice Ultron is just Vision or Jocasta

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So you didn't actually have to "get" to Gold this season then?

I doubt I'd struggle bro

imagine the weight

Booooooring, wake me up when they announce the next blonde white woman

Where did you get this picture of my wives?

And you believe this represents the average quickplay casual player's experience in ranked?

Yeah

oh, I'm imagining it alright

He's gonna make a name for himself

Vision should be the flying tank not war machine or Carol

yep.

There's no reason for not having both Ultron and War Machine as flying tanks, couldn't care less about Captain Marvel but if they do include her use her anime design, she was cute there

I just with it was Mar-Vell for the captain marvel tank and not Carol. But with netease you bet you're ass we're getting Carols original outfit if she comes.

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Vision*** not Ultron sorry got confused while writing

Nah they'd ruin the classic design somehow like they did with cap and hulk

brother... that movie isn't coming out...

cope

It'd be hilarious if it happened as one final dig at Overwatch 2, and they already have two very good vectors it with not just Doombots but also Ultron drones, but I doubt it'll happen, too much resources are being devoted to new characters and maps on a semi monthly basis, a remotely decent PVE mode would require at least several months, likely more.

Ultron makes his own wife and mate

He based her on Janet who is technically his mom since Hank is his dad

He names her Jocasta, after the mother of Oedipus

Ultron’s weird deviant angle is interesting but it’s the stuff that gets toned down or cut altogether sadly.

Namor teamup that makes a squid shoot shields at teammates

You can tell Marvel is forcing them to focus on X-Men characters

GIMME

Lets be honest, the character we both want from cosmic marvel is Dick Rider.

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Because Emma was a practically out of nowhere reveal, was the first hero for this season, and is a hot woman
Ultron was leaked months ago, is the second hero for the season so we already knew he was coming and all the hype for him was around the same time as Emma, but was completely overshadowed by her massive thighs and died down with time while we just waited for him
You’ll see the same next season with whatever characters are revealed

Emma was a practically out of nowhere reveal

Huh

Yeah, every season is probably just going to be:

characters revealed

people hype up the first one

the second one also gets some hype, but only during the first couple of weeks

the moment the second character comes out people will have completely forgotten about them

And of course

If one of the characters is a cute girl she will get ALL the focus and hype

Lets be honest, the character we both want from cosmic marvel is Dick Rider.

You'll get no arguments from me

That skin is a monkey's paw waiting to happen

Won't get Pym as his own character because Pymtron is in the game

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Datamine and “guys trust me” crap like that is both real and not real until official confirmation, Ultron we actually had his moveset and design

Cap doesn't have a classic skin yet.

K

And Mark

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With what? Your argument makes no sense and you know it doesn't. We had people claiming "there's no Daredevil, that means he's at least FOUR years away!", now Daredevil is in the datamine and in fact seeming like he's coming in the next 2-3 seasons, so all their claims were unfounded and jumping to conclusions.

A flying healer seems like they'd get instantly focused down.

Emma was leaked months ago, we 100% expected her as the hero for Season 2 and a Hellfire Gala theme.

Big Cajun Cock

We need that in the game NOW

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Civil war was so funny because it was a shit event compared to the other event marvel had going on the same summer. And nah I can see them doing both pym and pymtron.

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Pym should be in but Scott is probably more likely
Yeah I'm saying even if Carol does get added there's not a guarantee she wouldn't get some new blue and white costume

Gambit and Rogue are a thing

think they'd do Colossus and Kitty as a thing

flyers

healers

being focused

L M A O

I think the ones with vo are a safe bet It's clear that this person does not play the game
Doesn't Tony already have enough characters shitting on him
Also I feel like Nova would play to similar to torch

Pym could still get in as Yellowjacket, or even better as just himself. Being able to pull random shrunken crap out of his ass for moves would be really fun

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Psylocke has a classic costume and launched with it.

When's Hawkeye getting a classic costume? All of the ones he has now suck

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They can make Hank Pym Yellowjacket

Well they’re both Southerners so I guess it makes sense

I gotta be the only one who thinks Classic Hawkeye looks like a fag. His Ronin costume is awesome, just use that one.

They can do giant man for pym is they wanted while going ant for Scott.

Tony doesn't have enough people shitting on him for everything he's done.

Shes supposed to be in the new Avengers movie

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all vaguely Southern people are in a relationship with each other

You're not the only one with shit taste, no

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I'm so tired of all the chink themed skins that keep coming out...

Idk, i think it would look really cool mixed with the swords. People say they hold off on doing classic suits for later but its like why because its not like the skins arent selling for them to do something like that

1. Jarvis is Iron Man's human butler
2 . Ultron basically has Hank Pyms personality and mental illness but without any of his morals or support network so he becomes a megalomaniacal mad scientist robot with a major Oedius Complex
3. Ultron's head unintentionally looks like Antman's helmet

game made by Chinese developers

surprised that a lot of Chinese myth inspired skins come out

The game’s not even 6 months old yet you fag, just let them have their fun, we still get other cool shit and will get more in the future

Yeah and a character has more to them than their powerset. This kind of thinking is the same bullshit that gets storm and black panther married because they're both african super heroes

unintentionally

Was it not fully intentional considering Hank made him?

no hype for Ultron

People way overestimating Ultrons hype factor

Well when Hank made him he still looked like Every body since that one was made by Ultron himself

What people say that the MCU does with costumes is actually done worse by this game

Pym tank Scott dps ultron healer would be kino

No he had hype, but it was overshadowed by Emma since she was released first and also a hot woman

seriously, no classic Cap suit, no Hawkeye one, Wolverine just has the DP one but I'd like the brown suit
when they do release one they look nothing like the shit from the comics. only the 07 Thor skin is the closest shits ever gotten

Nah, some of the base designs are great, Loki is probably one of his best looks ever

There are two skins coming out for the shop every week, plus skins for events, free giveaways, and the battlepasses. You're getting plenty.

if she's a faggot support bitch im gonna be livid

In the lore entry Iron Man corals his repaired body by threatening him with a failsafe that will erase ALL knowledge, memory and even mention of Hank Pym from his core programming, which Ultron acquiesces to because Hank is inherently intertangled with the being Ultron is now. But warns he will overcome the failsafe as soon as he can and it'll be immediately back to kill all humans.

I don't agree.

worth noting leaks have a 100% accuracy rate as of now.

ENTER
CHAD-TRON

“…and once I find a way to override your new safeguards, I will unleash my righteous vengeance upon you and every other pathetic sack of flesh who dared to stand in my way.”

Good old Ultron. Never change

dude needs to chill
he's always mad

I guess, like the Joe Fixit out for Hulk they just overdesigned something as simple as him wearing a suit. I dont know what that blue line shit on his body is for

no reply

Could you oldfags ITT get the cue and let the devs cook instead of defending current Marvel editorial?

You people still play hero sloppers?

yeah, what do you play?

What Ultron comics have you read?

So do the Spider-Man games

squids are your friend

Most subtle samefag

Is this the part where you ignore that Chasm has been in the game since the start?

God I truly hate those designs

Skin means the character in question is there now? This means like you admit that you only need Miles Morales suit instead of the guy himself.

You're only saying this because he was shit in the movie

not even remotely

Speaking of Miles I almost forgot to put this out so I'm just going to say it. Milesfags deserve Spidey lord on their team 24/7. Let's not forget that Spider-Man and Peni Parker doesn't have the SYMBIOTE teamup with Venom starting in S2.5 so this means that Miles doesn't deserve Venom neither. Just go die Bendisfags.

doesn't have the SYMBIOTE teamup

*don't have the SYMBIOTE teamup

ultron

healer

are chinks fucking stupid?

He's more of a DPS/Healer hybrid

Groot nerfs needed

I remember last season half the time I was flamed for playing Groot instead of le big shield man
How times change