How did one ending manage to cause so much seething?
Undertale Yellow
because the devs came up with it when they were kids and never thought about rewriting it
Fighting Asgore and losing just makes more sense
Because it didn't make any sense?
Because it clearly wasn't thought out?
Because there was many important plot threads still unfinished?
Because Kanako ended being a non entity despite being vital to the story?
Because Ceroba literally gets away scott free after everything she did?
the vaxx stare
beause they were so close and fumbled everything.
Because they didn't want a retread of Undertale ending but didn't had quite enough talent to produce something original AND good?
they should just have the main ending go back into asgore instead of clover killing himself (or the true lab idea most fanworks do anyway)
also make the flowey fight optional too with the option to go to asgore on that route as well
Because a lot of people thought that it was rushed before the anniversary.
the anniversary just made people hate it more, because before people genuinely thought the team was competent and just rushed to finally be done after 7 years, but they just never thought about it at all
It would, if it didn't happen right after winning against Ceroba. You telling me Clover just suddenly forgot how to dodge roll or BIG SHOT in his scuffle with Asgore?
Remember that all the talk about "cancelled cowboy segment" in Deltarune? Toby will DMCA Undertale Yellow right when chapters 3 and 4 are about to drop to make an ultimate meta twist. This is why he was cozying up to Nintendo so much.
It feels rushed, all of Clover's friends do nothing to stop him from killing himself and then Kanako burns in hell forever (figuratively)
nice visual
The idea is that power levels in UTY are lower. Starlo, Ceroba, Clover, Martlet would be absolutely mogged, bodied, floored, mogged and raped by Undyne, Asgore and Frisk.
It's not a GREAT justification but I thought Clover lost at least some of his will after seeing the five human souls in person
He drew his gun but that doesn't mean he was determined
I understand that. I just think a more effective way of communicating that would be to still have these abilities in the Asgore fight, but the bullet patterns are so absurdly brutal that it's effectively impossible to win, rather than completely force a loss.
Plus, if Genocide is a secret non-canon ending, I don't see why a "Clover wins" scenario couldn't have gone the same way.
isn't it kinda late to DMCA a finished and released project?
besides that would burn a lot of goodwill with the fanbase
Genocide can afford to be non-canon ending, because that's the whole point of it, you're going completely off the rails. Regular routes better keep a mandated loss, in my opinion.
why can geno be non canon but pacifist cant despite the entire game already breaking canon the second flowey shows on screen?
just add a non canon asgore fight and saving kanako because why not at that point
Because it's a prequel to Undertale. Letting you break canon this much on a regular route would be too fanfic-y. They were extra careful not to outstep their boundaries with the story.
But the Neutral runs arent allowed to be canon? It wouldnt even affect canon ut if clover could kill a bunch of monsters and game over on asgore
but why must pacifist be the "canon" ending but neutral can't?
geno I can get since only maybe integrity killed a considerable number of monsters before
I see where you're coming from, but I do think a secret ending where you do the impossible and beat Asgore would be acceptable for the same reasons. Because, like genocide, you're going off the rails and doing what you shouldn't be able to. It's like getting the developer room ending in Chrono Trigger.
If non-canon endings are just limited to those two specific scenarios, I can see it working without feeling cheap.
Thoughts on Kyuubi? (Reddit OC)
The idea is that power levels in UTY are lower. Starlo, Ceroba, Clover, Martlet would be absolutely mogged, bodied, floored, mogged and raped by Undyne, Asgore and Frisk.
Thats not true, during the anniversary stream when asked about the stats from the Check act, one of the devs replied that Clover can see the "true" stats of the monsters unlike Frisk, the monsters from UTY are as strong as the ones from Undertale
that's just an excuse so they didn't have to set up fake stats like UT does
we already talking about him and the other one enough, time to let them die
I like him conceptually. I think a nerd who doesn't know he has super strength could be played to great comedic effect, and he adds a lot of opportunities for cute family interactions with Ceroba, Kanako, and Chujin. I just think the execution is poor. I don't even mind the idea of the character having a crush on Martlet. Its just that said crush likely never should be fulfilled, or would at least take a lot of work to make it work.
Also did the redditor make that or did you?
we already talking about him and the other one enough, time to let them die
I think they're fine to shitpost about occasionally. Also, lmao spelling error.
Chujin at home?
he's supposed to be kanako's brother or something, and super strong and kills geno clover because power wanking
Chujin Jr actually.
two reasons:
-a bunch of adults let a very young kid kill themselves. No matter the justification, its fucking horrific to let a young kid suicide. Especially for a bs reasoning such as well its the kids choice, hur dur.
-a bunch of adults let the kid kill himself even though they knew the kids soul would be used to destroy the kids species. Clover thought they were sacrificing himself for monster kind freedom when in reality he was sacrificing himself for the destruction of humanity. And the three adults didnt check to make sure that clover knew about the genocide plan before allowing the suicide. WTF
Clover thought they were sacrificing himself for monster kind freedom when in reality he was sacrificing himself for the destruction of humanity
correction: Clover thought he was sacrificing himself for monsterkind freedom when in reality he was sacrificing himself for the destruction of humanity
The oc has a lot of potential. Unforunately the implementation is a wish fufilment power fantasy :/
Neutral is a non-ending, you are supposed to continue playing after it.
But that means we haven't seen true stats for monsters from Undertale.
We know all the true stats from data mining.
There was nothing stopping them from simply letting us fight and lose to asgore on the neutral run, and yet they made it so that you cant physically go to new home but flowey still bitches about how clover shouldve simply gone to new home despite not being able to do so
ERASE YOUR LIGHT
TAKE YOUR FLIGHT
TO A PLACE WHERE YOU WILL BE
REMEMBERED
TO A PLACE WHERE YOU WILL BE
LOVED
Question anons, what is kanako wearing here?
Cause at first sight it sorts of looks like those half jackets things they wore in the 80's. But I doubt she'd wear that.
So is it like, a sweater or a hoodie? maybe a normal jacket?
And I don't know what that thing around her neck is either.
Man, these threads really are just the same arguments over and over again, huh?
I'm starting to see what that one guy meant a few threads back.
Martlet running
That guy got mad when someone posted pic related and pointed out that his OC was the same but with Martlet
its kinda like this
the thing around her neck is that bell thing kanako is wearing in most of her art (like in )
Her top is a sweater jacket. Sort of like this but with an open front. That bit on the back that looks like a hood is actually just the borders on her arms and bow creating the shape of one. That bit under her chin is either a bit of chest fluff poking through or its her bell necklace. Its probably the bell, since I don't see Chujin allowing her to walk around in a low cut top, but I really want to believe it is chest fluff.
Momlet!
You need to have the one OC that likes Martlet instead on the shelf too.
how old is even kyuubi? because that mother fucker definitely cannot be in the same age range as Marlet if he is the son chujin and ceroba.
Chujin and Ceroba are probably in their late twenties or early thirties, having kanako in their early twenties.
So idfk how they would manage to fit that fucker into the timeline.
yeah he sounds really generic, I barely know anything about him and he already scratches two checkmarks of the "shitty ocs bingo"
shipping it with a canon character
introducing it as a direct family member of someone in the main cast
and apparently
extremely overpowered
at least this one is a little circumvented
Ahh we should be more creative with uty ships, like we have a lot of UT characters to use for creative ships but its always the same 5 ships
because all the others SUCK including [your favorite crackship]
how old is even kyuubi? because that mother fucker definitely cannot be in the same age range as Marlet if he is the son chujin and ceroba.
The art from the OC creator seems to depict him hitting on middle aged Martlet (who has a scar and a blind eye for some reason). So he's dating hag Martlet, not Martlet as we see her in UTY.
extremely overpowered
This is the one that actually makes sense since he's a boss monster and has Roba's tard strength.
The art from the OC creator seems to depict him hitting on middle aged Martlet (who has a scar and a blind eye for some reason). So he's dating hag Martlet, not Martlet as we see her in UTY.
That was actually a Martlet from an AU, he usually ships himself with regular Martlet
How about Moray with that "plenty of fish in the sea" guy. He finally gets his fish, even if he can't really tell which kind of fish it is.
Still going by chronology, Martlet would be in her late 30s at least by the time he was of age, and its more likely she'd be in her 40s. So the only way this works is for him to be a haglover.
I kinda like Starlet, I don’t see it that often compared to the other Martlet and Starlo ships.
that "plenty of fish in the sea" guy
Who is this again?
Sounds interesing but unfortunately i see people preferring to draw moray x undyne over moray x fish loser guy
Who is this again?
He's that featherless bird guy in Grillby's. He put a fishing line with his number at the end in the river in Snowdin then gave up after he found out the fish in question (Undyne) was already seeing someone.
we already talking about him and the other one enough, time to let them die
and the other one
ENTER...
attracted by gay energy
also that waystation thing is one of the reasons I am adverse to go fishing for the new art there, what a complete mess
offshoot game makes characters that are supposed to rival the main game character's power
No ending has you canonically killed by Asgore despite it being the canon death of every human.
your ocs aren't even liked
all this for a game you spent seven years on and released for free.
what are you talking about?
>your ocs aren't even liked
Anon, you are posting in a thread full of people that liked UTY enough to make fan arts, fanfics and fangames
Starlet
I think I've seen all of three pieces of artwork of Starlet that weren't part of that one comic
Plebbit
Why?
loving momlet
people are desperate and it's the only place producing new "content" if you can call that trash that, though rarely something good appears but it is becoming more and more rare each passing day
pic unrelated
Are you retarded or something? If you kill ceroba at the end of pacifist, you'll be able to go die to asgore, which is the closest thing to that interpretation
canon death of every human
I'm not so sure about that, pretty much all the various human's stuff can be found scattered throughout the underground, I think it makes more sense that most if not all of the 6 humans died well before they got to Asgore, whether it be from royal guards or just by happenstance.
whether it be from royal guards or just by happenstance.
I always thought it was interesting how Gerson sells both the thorn notebook and the cloudy glasses, meaning he probably had some connection with the purple kid, I think the fangames based on the perseverance soul should give Gerson more importance in the plot
personally i think its about time we let shu rest.
at this point we've exhausted almost everything we can about him, we're pretty much just picking on a kid's self insert OC now.
so, how about a good end to send him off?
it had been a few years since shu failed the royal guard exam
for a while, he was a complete fraud. from pretending he was much stronger than he actually is to making cheap edits about it.
but, recently. things have started to look up.
he spent so long with a fake fighting style that revolves around showing rather than doing, that it's actually developed something that could be considered "skillful"
when shu is focused, he's very good at prolonging a fight rather than attacking.
dodging, blocking, countering. anything that doesn't involve him getting hit or hitting directly.
he can keep a fight deadlocked for quite a while. even with the occasional mistake and slipup.
he's still beyond shit at actual fighting, of course.
but, its undeniable that his flaunty showoff style has turned into something thats actually decent.
one of his few friends convinced him to retake the exam, and to his surprise he got accepted!
if a human should come and attack, or a monster go rogue, he'd be a roadblock until stronger royal guards can come and take over for him.
undyne's current plan for him is to try and help his fighting style so that he can start to attack while dodging... but she's also tempted to work on making him truly untouchable.
shu's still a long way off from where he wanted to be...
but, he's also much closer than he thought he'd be just a few years ago.
so he cant complain.
>when shu is focused, he's very good at prolonging a fight rather than attacking.
>dodging, blocking, countering. anything that doesn't involve him getting hit or hitting directly.
>he can keep a fight deadlocked for quite a while. even with the occasional mistake and slipup.
Shu became Sekiro?
i do not know who that is.
i just wanted to give the thread's (apparently favorite?) fraud a good end while still keeping him at a level of fraudery
meanwhile in Cole's brain
so very bouncy...
The guy from the game with the same name whose fighting style is basically blocking and dodging until the enemy gets tired
I thought you were asking for alt ship ideas.
Lmao. This dude is the gift that keeps on giving.
cole's room dark world
a wholesome funtime adventure with many variants of kanako
kanako's room dark world
the first room of the dark world has a "only adults are allowed here" sign
oops am retard
its fun to laugh at them
I really think Shu would end up being an actor if he were to have a good ending. He's got the personality for it and is great at bullshitting. Even the fighting style you describe would better fit an actor than a royal guard.
he also gets to be famous and live his fantasies of being a badass but in a safe environment
yeah but actors are gay and do you really want to do THAT to him?
The only other actor in the underground is Mettaton and he's a featureless metal cube, who only seems to be interested in himself anyways. I think Shu will be fine.
mettaton only helps prove that actors are gay.
>The only other actor in the underground is Mettaton
Did a purge of all the underground's entertainment industry took place before the start of Undertale? it never made sense that Mettaton was the only star in the entire place
My point is that he won't have to go to any Diddy parties for his career. He can continue to be straight (and likely will continue to be since he has Robarot).
nope, being an actor magically makes you gay. like the lesbian curse.
The idea is that the underground is so small and underpopulated that it simply never had the opportunity for one to come into existence before. Remember that Mettaton's show has less than ten viewers for most of its runtime, only peaking at ten thousand after he said he was leaving the underground forever.
Reddit took over these threads nearly a year ago.
If we're going by that logic then he's already gay since he's a character in the Tobyverse.
I may have gone overboard on Zartlet
there is only two canonically gay men in Toby's games and they are only used for "no homo" jokes
are you the Martlet boobs guy? can we get a look on Martlet's battle sprite?
Everyone in the Tobyverse is at least bi and most of them will act gay if prompted. Not to mention how the fandom instantly gays the hell out of them whenever it gets its hands on them. Either we allow for characters to not be gay just because of their role, or they're all gay.
There's no such thing as overboard when it comes to Zartlet.
No ending has you canonically killed by Asgore
Redditors are pairing Starlo with Ceroba only to have them divorce
why does everyone keep trying to cuck this guy...
being gay with a stable job beats being a fraud that lives with his mom
I think its a misery porn thing.
Get this man bird pussy stat!
I won't bother fetching and upscaling them but her normal battle sprites are proportioned to about the same size as this official frame makes her out to be, so basically, all my resprites are just making her sprites consistent, if anything *wink wink*
It's like he doesn't get treated seriously/with respect. They play it like a total joke that he couldn't get with his crush
the fact that we dont misery porn starlo and actually want him to have his moment is proof enough that we arent "taken over by reddit", like that one guy desperately wants.
Its a habit learned from years of eggs husband.
I finished Flawless Pacifist in the Shades of Justice mod and i still think Ceroba's an awful person
My guess is they've got a deep rooted self hated, and they see themselves in Star. But i'm tired of playing armchair psychologist so i'll just say it is just misery porn.
does the mod change anything with roba? I still haven't played it
Yeah with Zenith Martlet there's no such thing as too much or overboard. Only big milkers.
Because it was retarded.
The brilliance of the Genocide route washes away the sins of Pacifist though, so it's fine.
What was her problem
She was actually retarded.
No but it adds more Dalv/Martlet content And a secret Asgore boss if you abort Genocide while fighting Axis