What are your concerns for the game regarding changes from Rogue Trader's gameplay and setup?

What are your concerns for the game regarding changes from Rogue Trader's gameplay and setup?

There is morale damage on top of normal damage, so you can beat enemies by making them surrender.

Game takes place in one planet and its biomes

There is no correct answer in the investigations, there are just consequences based on who you declare guilty, including seemingly unrelated innocents.

Morality is based on Traditionalist-radical spectrum

No momentum system on this game

SLIGHTLY shorter game but with better reactivity and consequences/outcomes

Full Voice Acting

most interesting class and abilities went to the genius black queen

No momentum and shorter story are both nice improvements

None of them, it all sounds good

I think the "slightly shorter but deeper" is a good thing.
Concerned how full voiced dialogue might mess up dialogue quality, harder to do rewrites. And concerned with how it might effect future content like DLC too. Since if they are gonna add companions like in RT with every DLC, they are gonna have to give them reactivity to previous content including DLCs for example (I.E. Arbites in next RT DLC will need to have comments for Void Shadows and Kibellah for Lex etc.)

SLIGHTLY shorter game but with better reactivity and consequences/outcomes

In theory, I don't mind a shorter game as Rogue Trader's Acts 3 and 5 were both underbaked and superfluous, and added nothing in the game. If Dark Heresy is going to be only Rogue Trader's Prologue, Act 1, 2, and 4, but fleshed out even more, I'm very happy.

Now, if Dark Heresy is shorter than Rogue Trader *and* contains bullshit chapters that only detract from the game, then fuck that.

as long as I can chaosmaxx it'll be fine

I want them to rebalance combat so it isn't just "Lol kill everyone including bosses without invulnerability mechanics on round 1-2)
Make it harder to get OP

Everything sounds good, I'll miss voidship combat, the only good minigame Owlcat made

The changes seem overall good, the only thing I am iffy about is the full voice acting because it always leads to less dialogue, every time it is implemented.

Momentum is the only reason why it was possible.

I'm very much interested in the investigation system they're replacing the space combat with. That will either make or break the game.

No Tau

Nah, there are OP things without momentum

Nivigator skills beyond busted

Officer extra turn and buffs

Arch millitant

Warriors can become unkillable living walls without using momentum

Bladedancer+exe even without ult deals insane damage stacks espcially if someone else can also get dots in

Voidship combat was good because they could just transplant ideas from Battlefleet Gothic.

Everything that you posted, seems good to me. But it's impossible to tell how they will actually be ingame.
My only concern is the extremely lacklustre companions they have shown.
But there are obviously going to be more, and Abelard, while looking like a boring, generic character, is actually one of the best owlcat companions. So I will try to not be too negative about it.
Considering that there is not a single potential waifu in the shown line up, though, that is a real concern. As the unrevealed companions are not likely to all be waifus.

lol

Shorter story is a positive, in fact they should make it half the length and make sure 50% of the story isn't unfinished and broken. After that use whatever dev time left to add replayability and reactivity.
Full voice acting is concerning but we'll just have to see how it turns out.

It's funny to see people still forcing the

NOOOOO WE DON'T NEED ROMANCE IT DOESN'T FIT 40K GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT

meme even after Rogue Trader

multiple xeno shitters presented right at the front in the promotional materials instead of being (secret) optional companions

I am concerned, all right.

Yeah, but some waifufags are treating it like Mass Effect
"necron warlord gf" is just retarded lore rape

>There is no correct answer in the investigations, there are just consequences based on who you declare guilty, including seemingly unrelated innocents.

The companions seem pretty lame but maybe they are more interesting once you get to know them however this one has me actually worried. The whole point of an investigation is to find the correct answer, so I feel like this has the potential to be really unsatisfying or outright frustrating. I don't want some ambiguous "maybe you got the correct suspect, maybe you didn't" bullshit or get dogshit rewards because I didn't let a corrupt but wealthy suspect go.

Will Owlkek continue spamming 40K RPGs (Only War, Black Crusade, Imperium Maledictum etc.) while using RT as a base? That would unironically be kino, since they do 40K well

FFG's 40k TTRPGs all follow the same D100 system

In the tesser images they included Only War and Datk crusade in filename so eho knows maybe they hinted at future projects

I really wish Arbites wasn't an origin, I wanted to play psyker shotgun Arbites

The companions look very underwhelming, can't say it's a good sign for the game as a whole. Also it's quite obvious they aren't going to go with the low power level Dark Heresy is known for, which is another disappointment.

In Owlcats interview a few months back they confirmed they are not working on Eberron, Forgotten Realms, Planescape, World Of Darkness, Shadowrun, WHFB, Pathfinder, or their own original setting. So that leaves 40K, Dark Sun, or Exalted. Considering how unknown and forgotten both Dark Sun and Exalted are, it is absolutely possible that every single one of their current projects is 40K.

I don't think they even remember how to make low level anymore.

Just joined the death cult and i think i got a new base outfit? Can i switch back to my old one or something?

i really need a GOTH dommy MOMMY nurglite GF to FART in my face (you know what i mean fellas!!!)

Evayne x Corsairfu is canon

My concern is that the main girl is BLACK, unlike the cute fish girl or elf from rogue trader

Unless...

the main girl is BLACK

Anon... it's the kroot

Tpbp

My MAIN concern is that the KROOTlady will not be SEXY enough and that I will NOT want to FUCK her.

>I will NOT want to FUCK her.

Good, more krootussy for me.

Why is everyone assuming the Kroot girl will be a romance at all

that I will NOT want to FUCK her

You wouldn't be able to fuck her regardless

Cassia statue was the RT collectors bonus.
Kroot statue is the DH collectors bonus.

because she got a statue and while it's weird as fuck it's not technically impossible since the whole deal with kroot is they gather impressive genes from xenos to bring back and strengthen the tribe (of course, they do this by being ritually cannibalized.....) so she could theoretically be attracted to your inquisitor's power.

There's also some people who believe at least one owlcat dev is a fucking vorefag based off wenduag

Let enemies surrender and let them talk about relevant investigation details

Slaughter the enemies and let Kroot wife eat them so she can tell me about the investigation details through their lives memories

Either way I win

you could use the bill clinton "I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman!" excuse since kroot don't have vaginas but a handjob and other physical acts are still possible, kroot aren't fags whining about how icky aliens are like yriliet, they could write a """""sharing genetic material""""" fade to black pretty easy

wenduag vore

I dont remember that at all besides the demon patron stuff in her final quest and thats not really vore imo.

at the start of the game doesn't she literally admit to having eaten people?

I dont think Kroot can literally eat memories like that. Space Marines can though so you could ask the rumored Night Lord you get to eat some brains.

Wendog only commits cannibalism once as part of her backstory, the actuall cannibal that spends the entire game killing and fucking is Camellia

Kroot shamans are more powerful eaters and seems this companion according to the text given on site is one of those and can partially absorb memories from flesh

I mean that's TWO cannibal girls as love interests in the same game.....not exactly helping the "owlcat has vorefags on staff" accusations

What I'm trying to say is that one only did it once and it was a choice between that or death, the other one does it regularly because she wants to

Wow these companions are so dogshit and boring

baaaaw I don't feel like fucking these companions FUCK YOU OWLCAT

this is a 34 year old

Jesus christ, what warp does to a mf

there has never been an occasion where a reply like this doesn't cause the other person to double down
which makes me think you are samefagging and trying to rile people up through example

So what do we think of spess dorfs being confirmed for Mechanicus 2?

Pretty intrigued. The Leagues of Votan are in desperate need of content and given their themes and lore it seems like a fitting addition to pit them against Admech and Necrons.

I don't get why you think that's the reason the companions are getting a tepid reaction, none of them look very interesting, and that includes their backstories. About the only one who has any charisma at all is the Kroot, and they are obviously not going to be a romance option if you know anything about how Kroot reproduction works in 40K. They don't even have genitals.

Are they the full third faction with a story line? Then it's fucking lame and robs actually good factions.

Aren't actual 40k dwarves all canonically extinct?

not anymore, although they never actually were and fans made up headcanon that they were

she's got hands and a mouth and kroot collect genetic material from different races
"but she doesn't have a pussy!" is barely any barrier

Full Voice Acting

It's will be short cut-down slop, with targeting audience being tiktok consumers.

SLIGHTLY shorter game but with better reactivity and consequences/outcomes

Thats a lie, see above.

A "Necron warlord" is already retarded lore rape like created by Matt Ward

no, they just lost their army for several decades, squats as abhumans never went extinct

warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Leagues_of_Votann

Devs said them being such a new faction is a double edged sword. They don't have near as much lore to draw inspiration from like the admech and necrons, but at the same time that leaves them a lot of freedom to fill in the blanks.

The vast majority of their holdings outside the galactic core were wiped out by tyranids. Pretty much the only survivors were small isolated enclaves and mercenaries like the iron heads on Necromunda. The current iteration are the ones that stayed in and colonized the world's close to the galactic core, the are a confederation of various guilds and such that call themselves the Leagues of Votann.

So I'm reading lore and... Callidus assassins can kill primarchs? That's insane, I thought primarchs were demigods but apparently Curze was slain by an assassin

Curze let it happen because he saw a vision where he dies and decided that that will then be his fate and didnt fight back

The simple fact that an assassin was sent to kill a primarch indicates primarchs are much easier to kill than it would seem at first glance

Kurze wanted to be killed to prove a point. Though if she had managed to catch him off guard, and that's a pretty big if, a Callidus phase blade might be one of the few weapons that could do it, seeing as they can shift through different dimensions to cut through armor like it isn't there.

you're significantly downplaying the strength of assassins, they cost hundreds of points to deploy on the tabletop for a reason.
kurze was depressed and basically committing suicide by cop but yes their equipment can absolutely kill basically anything short of a titan. even a knight they can board and assassinate the pilot like a fucking titanfall jockey.
Primarchs can be killed by being shot with a lascannon unprotected, they're not age of sigmar fanfiction walking deities. Alpharius died being beheaded with a chainsword. Dorn died being swarmed and overwhelmed by hundreds of cultists in melee. Angron was captured and permanently lobotomized by regular humans with fancy archaeotech slaving equipment.

Callidus specifically are equipped with reverse-engineered c'tan phase blades that bypass all armor. kurze sandbagging means m'shen could cut his head off like a trophy easily.

Primarchs are theoretically killable with many weapons and troops, yes. Their plot power simply doesn't put them in situations where that could happen. You'll never see a Primarch's spaceship get destroyed with him inside of it and then helplessly floating in space while they line up a nova cannon shot.

Temple assassins are pretty gnarly rape machines in their own right. They're at least as enhanced, if not more so, as a space marine.

they are way more elite than marines, they cost more to field than anything short of custodes HQ units and named characters. A vindicare is literally twice as expensive as a Custodes Terminator.

Eh, Curze was the Primarch of the Night Lords, who are all pathetic losers.

Raldoron attacked with greater ferocity. Skraivok’s arm was numb from deflecting the blows.

He forayed a few attacks, but they put him in more danger, as Raldoron caught and countered every one.

His latest riposte was turned away, and Raldoron’s power blade scraped sparks up the side of his breast-plate.

‘Atramentar!’ Skraivok called, his panic rising. ‘To me!’

If they heard, they could do nothing; they fought the Blood Angels Dreadnought still, their number reduced to three.

‘Night Lords! Help me!’

His power pack scraped on rockcrete. He had his back to the outer crenellations, and could retreat no further. Raldoron faced him. His sword energy field buzzed in the downpour.

‘Listen to you,’ Raldoron said. ‘The masters of fear. You are cowards, like all cruel men.’

‘You are and always were an evil Legion. You took the Emperor’s mission and twisted it. Selfish. Monstrous. Tormentors of the weak,’ snarled Raldoron. ‘If Horus had not turned, I would have gladly led the hunt for your kind myself. I thank you from my heart that you came to my sword and saved me the trouble of looking.’ He shifted the weight of his foot, bringing another cry from Skraivok. ‘Wait!’ the Painted Count said. ‘I give you my surrender. You beat me. I am your prisoner!’ ‘There can be no prisoners in this war,’ said Raldoron.

‘How much mercy have you shown to all those that you harmed? I have as much mercy for you as you had for them. Now get off my wall.’

He shoved hard with his foot, sending Skraivok skidding towards the drop.

Genuinely the best thing about Night Lords is how they always die in an entertaining way like the bitches they are when push comes to shove.

These aren't random assassins, it's an assassin order specifically directed by the Emperor. Which just brings more foresight into the mix.

Callidus phase blades aren't reverse engineered, they're recovered necrodermis fashioned into the universe's most advanced punch dagger. Necrodermis by the way, being the same shit the C'Tan's physical bodies are made of. So the callidus basically stab people with pieces of Cthulhu.

Honestly, I think that people's kneejerk reaction against the Leagues of Votan has been rather premature. The core concept of them as a race and even their aesthetics works pretty nicely at translating dwarves into space (far better imo than the og squats) while they also work as a nice contrast to the Imperium and a tie to the Dark Age of Technology of humanity.

there's a book where assassins from each temple set out to try to kill horus during the heresy. it doesn't work out. curze just wanted to die so he let her kill him. she was later chased down and killed by a regular night lord so take that as you will

well, kind of, all necrons and all necron machines are also made of necrodermis, they're the ones who invented the material and fashioned physical shells for the c'tan to inhabit out of it

This is why voice actors sign multi-year contracts

fandom

Don't do this.

I loved skraivok in the books. What a goofy retard.

she was later chased down and killed by a regular night lord so take that as you will

that's downplaying it, the scene in question also had her killing multiple other night lord in hand to hand combat, punching straight through their armor and throwing them around, she did massive damage to talos before he was able to spit acid in her eyes and she still fought pretty well after that
assassin's physical strength has always been in flux depending on the author, some callidus stories have them about as strong as a regular human basically, some have them being killing machines

praying for callidus gf with polymorphine as unrestricted overpowered as it is in lore and on the tabletop.

callidus successfully infiltrates night lords by stealing a set of power armor and shapeshifting into a marine

successfully infiltrates genestealers by shapeshifting into a literal six armed genestealer and fooling the hivemind

successfully infiltrates orks by shapeshifting into an ork warboss and sowing chaos with conflicting orders

successfully infiltrates a craftworld by shapeshifting into an elf and acting like a haughty bitch

because there's no restriction on their imposter bullshit on tabletop they have a bunch of canon lore feats that are straight up hilarious because GW have to justify how your callidus can sneak into a bunch of fucking necrons or tyranids. Then there's the fucking freaky "definitely somebody's disguised fetish" shit like:

A Callidus Assassin, sent to steal away the firstborn child of the dangerously self-centred Planetary Governor Thygmus van Spracht, disguises herself as the infant's matron-vigilus. By widening her craw with polymorphine and swallowing the princeling whole, she walks past the elite palace guards without so much as a whisper of resistance. She carries the prize in her belly to her masters before regurgitating it whole, mewling but safe. Pict-skull footage is sent to the governor, and he falls back into the Imperial fold within the week.

lexicanum is great but i love the lore fluff on the fandom wiki, lexicanum has way less information about each thing, basically an overview and that's it, but it does have information on just about anything in the universe, whereas fandom is still missing pages on a lot of units

on tabletop assassins have pretty much always been Strength 4 which is the same rating as actual space marines. they're about as enhanced as somebody can possibly be in the setting, the reason they're not used everywhere is that it's so much more investment to train and equip one than even marines (who are the goldilocks zone between easy to mass produce and effective compared to other super soldier options)

most of that lore fluff is literal fanfiction or some asshurt fanboy of a specific faction editorializing shit to jerk off his favorite spacemen

I am casually optimistic.
youtube.com/watch?v=V8RGHUQ2hnE

Based on the trailer the game seems to be more unit focused with tech priests working as just hero units, leading armies of units so I assume that the same setup is for both Necrons and the nusquats, assuming that they are supposed to work as playable factions as well (which to my understanding is the case). I find this to be a nice change of pace from the first game where you typically had no real reason to use the skitarii units etc because your techpriests were so op.
I am also happy to see the Leagues of Votan in get some attention as the faction is very much underdeveloped and underappericiated.

The big issue is that their initial release was a microcosm of literally everything wrong with 9th edition 40k

tiny undercooked range that desperately needs a second wave of actual stuff yet will just get token heroes for years

have every rule that people HATE to play against (renamed armour of contempt, railguns ignoring invulns, with splashing damage)

extremely lethal in an already hyper-lethal edition

of what very little fluff existed much of it stunk of design by committee

To put it another way, they are the only army in any edition to be BANNED IN TOURNEY BEFORE LAUNCH. So bad GW had to panic nerf them before the preorderers even got their boxes.

a lot of people seem to forget how rare imperial assassins are, they spend all non-mission time in their various hidden temples, and only ever appear to carry out a mission, whereupon they immediately return to the temple. and even when they're out, the whole point is to not be seen in the first place (except for eversor but no one ever lives to speak about them). i've seen a lot of people going on about having an imperial assassin ally but it's fucking ludicrous to consider unless their specific assignments align with what the player is currently doing and they're just on the way to complete it

I thought they could not feel fear. from whatever bullshit the space marines go through to become space marines

Yeah, GW's inability to ballance shit really gave people a bad first impression of the LotV. Hopefully they will get some new stuff in the next edition and generally better fleshed out range. I genuinely think that their core concept fits very well into 40k and is a good way of incorporating space dwarves into the setting without just copy pasting dwarves and their aesthetics wholesale into 40k from fantasy, which is basically what the og squats did, and failed terribly by being way too goofy and retarded even within 40k.

The skitarii definitely had their uses in the first game, provided they were leveled up or you had that class of tech priest that could buff them and summon them anywhere on the map for reduced cost. Always funny to just summon a castellan or some kataphrons right on top of some necrons that were giving you trouble.

They're rare but can collaborate with other imperial forces fine, Culexus are the ones with the big super secret lockdown temple since they're all blanks. People want a Callidus girlfriend because Jaq Draco had one and an Inquisitor is one of the few people who could requisition an assassin's service long-term. On tabletop there's literally an Imperial Agents codex where you can have an inquisitor warlord and his assassin buddies as an army now

"Night Lord, tell me about their memories."
"No."

yes, and no. they absolutely feel fear, 100%, but it's not really processed the same way as normal humans. they can feel despair, terror, hopelessness, and dread but the alterations made to them allow them to easily cope with it and not let it affect their actions. the "they will know no fear" is more of a mantra that fear can never hinder their actions or duty. this isn't new btw, this is an ancient bit of lore from before the HH

Yeah, I don't need the fluff. The universe is complex as it is, I don't need random factoids from god knows where to complicate things more.

He can't possibly be, his reckoning of time is fucked. Kunrad served on the ship for at least four decades, and he was around at that time too.

Hope there is no base building with some overly shitty gimmick fights

Navigator

True

Officer

Which are based on momentum 60% of the time for good effectiveness

Arch Millitant

Almost always requires you to have said extra turns by officers. And they're also ones who benefit from momentum the most

Warrior

Yes, but it's mostly just that if you go vanguard next

BD/Exec

Maybe, but isn't like pyro psycher is more effective in any class than BD/Exec?

True, but personally I just found it more optimal to go full hog with the tech priests due to how much shit they can do themselves.

Night Lords are such weak faggots they cry like little girls when facing equivalent force of any kind, they genuinely only do well when fighting unarmed civilians or IG with flashlights, anything stronger than that and their main battle strategy is to run away screaming.

You could always fluff it that whoever your Commander did something important for someone high up in the imperium and is owed a favor, with the assassin being him calling in that favor.

you a tabletop guy then? they're the ones who generally don't give a shit about the actual game they play beyond numbers and dice

Someone at GW is into some freaky shit

Stop talking shit about my batboys or I will start crying...

dark eldar are literally like this and have been for 20,000 years but they don't get this kind of bitching

you write about the nightlords like they raided your village while you were away

Dark eldar have the excuse that literally their entire culture is built around raiding and not standing and fighting.

dark eldar don't cry when they lose since they all know turnabout is fair play and can feed off even their own side's pain

We are getting a night lord companion, you can cry about it if you wish

Momentum is a serious problem but the thing that really does break the game is the Officer, in fact one of the main reasons the Momentum issue is so big is specifically because of Officers Momentum ability being so busted, imagine if every Momentum ability was Operative level, it would become a non issue. Officers fundamentally break the game, Owlcat designed all the encounters so that you can win without an Officer, which means that if you do have one everything becomes ridiculously easy as enemies that are designed for a 50 BS Argenta with 1-2 shots a turn are suddenly facing an Argenta with 80-90 BS with 8-9 shots a round. It's ridiculous that Owlcat actually let the Officer class as is.

Nah, never played the tabletop and probably never will.
I just don't need stuff that isn't properly credited to Black Library when that's already a can of worms in itself.

some of that is really retarded, since she shouldn't be able to fool them at a psychic level

reads last sentence

what in tarnation

getting an NL lackey is great because you can order him to do all the boring gruntwork and imagine his internal seething

They did foce 'no character gets more than one free turn till one round passes- and they did nerf seize the initiative.
Plus most flat damage bonuses they could give as themselves or MT.
Still not enough cause officer is still essentially copying the most broken character in the party and making them both better essentially

some of that is really retarded, since she shouldn't be able to fool them at a psychic level

They undergo mental training and can use psi-blockers and shit, in the case of genestealers she posed as a remnant of a separate hive splinter that had been wiped out by imperium forces so she wasn't part of their same broodmind so she fooled the magus that way

lexicanum doesn't even mention a quarter of the stuff in official codexes. what part of this universe do you like if it's not anything in it really? you're in it for the lore but only a little bit? wierdo

I just think they're a joke, they genuinely feel like heels from WWE or something, they strut and prance about how evil and sinister and malevolent they are, then actual military force shows up to oppose them and they job while crying like little girls. Add to this their "2 edgy 4 u" vibe and the bought from a 2 dollar Halloween party store batwings they plaster on all their stuff, and it's impossible not to laugh at them.

NL might work well with the moral system. As in you dont have any moral when you fight him. I dont know though, for a spy thriller sort of story alpha legion would be better, NL would be more suitable for an actual horror game.

Even the nightlords themselves admit they're fags in the books
youtube.com/watch?v=XGTVa1jk7tc

ok, what about the eldar one? posed as an exodite/reformed deldar?

Yeah it's obvious we're getting a Night Lord companion what with the Morale system being specifically designed for one. It's still not going to ever get me to take the Night Lords seriously, they're an element in 40K that gives real credence to the people that argue the entire thing is just comedic parody.

successfully infiltrates a craftworld by shapeshifting into an elf and acting like a haughty bitch

Never heard about this, its something by Ian Watson?

the vast majority of eldar are not on the path of the seer and have no significant psychic abilities, most are literally civilian artians and gardeners and shit. if you don't let them read your mind it's not an issue short term

Part of it is I really don't like Fandom, and if there's an alternative I always take it.
Their layouts are dogshit and the autoplay video ads when I'm on mobile are absolute cancer.
Not to mention for other subjects where info is scattered between several different fandom sites because the somebody decided to make a new one when they showed up instead of using the search bar.

not posting the actual narrator who has voiced night lords since

youtube.com/watch?v=emJ2WHpicBg

What did you think the video was going to prove?

autoplay video ads when I'm on mobile are absolute cancer.

this one is just a skill issue, ublock origin is available on firefox mobile, i see no ads anywhere anymore

isn't the whole justification of why there's no genestealers in craftworlds because eldars would psychically sense the infestation and cull it before it became a problem?

Space Marine stealth and infiltration has always seemed hilarious to me. Both for Night Lords and the Alpha Legion. Eight to nine foot tall giants in hulking armor, guns that blast tank shells.

It's basically Talos getting pissed that their chapter just spend their time beating up defenceless planets and avoid fighting anyone who could kick their shit in.

eldar have star trek++++ medical science and are a post-scarcity society where everyone knows everyone, the whole point of genestealers is to infiltrate and start infecting people and rapidly reproducing......which is also literally impossible since CWE don't reproduce without soul stones ready.

there are cases of craftworlds ending up with GSC infection but it's a really dumb and contrived scenario from Gav Thorpe where a craftworld turned to genestealer shit to try and avoid slaanesh with the idea the Shadow in the Warp would protect them from She Who Thirsts and then had a fucking genestealer shove his cock inside their shard of khaine so there's a giant flaming Genestealer Patriarch of Khaine instead of a normal avatar.......thank christ that series was cancelled

But the idea of a battered legion ashamed of themselves and being irrationally angry at the world for it, seeking slaughter to appease their souls, is incredibly kino
Why would anybody not want that

sex with Eldar men

but that's just because the NL (and every chaos legion) are just a bunch of random splintered warbands that refuse to even work with each other, much less anyone else, and they don't even have the favor of any gods to back them up. hit and run is all they're able to do given the resources at their disposal

I can't take this voice seriously after:
youtube.com/watch?v=5hDlMCBQg4Q

Anything written by Gav Thorpe (and BL material in general) should be ignored as a general rule.

Not enough cool spells when you play a psyker. Come one, all the cool magic shit in 40k and get like 3 spells

Never liked the Votann aesthetics.
Way too clean and futuristic.
Should've been more futuristic industrial (with heavy emphasis on industrial) or they should've simply took the Necromunda Squats and polished those further.
That and add more ceremonial aesthetics to their leaders and elites.

Siege of Vraks was good as BL material.

Heavy emphasise of industrial is Genestealer Cult aesthetic. Their entire theme is labor union.

Only named characters retain their senses and persona brother

my sides

Night Lords have a terrible record overall

Dark Angels shit all over them in Thramas

embarrass themselves in Pharos

more embarrassment in the palace walls

their primarch is more concerned in being """right""" than anything else and is a kooky goofball during the entire series

Their terror tactics gimmick don't really work on other space marines who can't be intimidated like regular humans do.
Now, they make for very entertaining antagonists like emperor's children do.

not a single waifu in revealed dh companions

nothing but a disgusting negress and a sausagefest

Trash

no waifu no buyfu

There is morale damage on top of normal damage, so you can beat enemies by making them surrender.

That's part of the Dark Heresy TTRPG so I welcome it in the adaptation

Game takes place in one planet and its biomes

Good choice I like smaller but more detailed game worlds, also all Owlcat games are at their worst when the game pushes you into some alternate dimension for 10+ hours

There is no correct answer in the investigations, there are just consequences based on who you declare guilty, including seemingly unrelated innocents.

Based as fuck

Morality is based on Traditionalist-radical spectrum

Only correct way to handle an Inquisitor

No momentum system on this game

That's fine

SLIGHTLY shorter game but with better reactivity and consequences/outcomes

Sounds good to me same as above with the single planet choice

Full Voice Acting

That sounds like it could backfire massively. I don't mind reading through a view paragraphs of text when playing CRPGs at all, I really would be fine with voice acting being limited to important scenes and combat noises

Nothing wrong with sausage fests. People who complain about this shit are fags because they feel insecure around men.

Alpha Legion I give a pass because the only mentions of actual infiltration in the fluff are against other Space Marine legions, where it at least makes sense. Everything else about their MO is just misdirection, sabotage, diplomatic deception, and other stuff that isn't actively inhibited by being nine-foot-tall gigachads.

That's part of the Dark Heresy TTRPG so I welcome it in the adaptation

It's not. There is no momentum in the RT TTRPG either. Both are an owlcat thing.

it has to do more on a planetary scale, stealth as in just not being seen by the enemy, not really crawling through vents or crouching behind a couch. not to mention everything is so fucking huge in 40k, when you're sneaking around a hive city an extra 2 feet of height isn't a huge issue, especially when plenty of massive servitors, mutants, and ogryn exist as well

it took me an embarassing amount of time to figure out the voice was saying HIGH MOMENTUM

HIGH MOMENTUM
LOW MOMENTUM

It's not.

They didn't call it morale but you did willpower tests for fear and shit. That's basically a morale system by another name

ARMAMETUM

I also thought that

Full VA is going to suck. At the least it'll balloon the game size.

They're giant dudes in tin cans wielding fuck huge weapons that make shit tons of noise. Their military tactics being "stealth based" is a joke played on the Night Lords by the Emperor since he thought Curze was a cringelord.

They can be working on AoS

Don't worry, Owlcat will exclusively hire crack addicts and junkies to cheapen the cost.

sure, i'll bet that's how the NL, RG, and AL all carry out extensive and successful stealth operations, because it doesn't work somehow

good news for Sena Bryer

Ulfar's voice actor is now a tranny. Wouldn't be surprised if they brought him on too.

successful stealth operations

Yeah sure man, totally. Absolutely believable and in no way a complete joke that makes one question the veracity of the setting itself. Yep. They're like, Marine NINJAS, or something. So cool.

You make WP tests for fear checks then roll on the shock table if you fail. It doesn't happen in combat unless a daemon or other creature with fear factor pops up.

I like this one better
youtube.com/watch?v=DWjP3Kw5Zuc

youtube.com/watch?v=rs2uv9hLKiQ

I've never read a 40k book
What's a good one to start? I read the Malus Darkblade books for Fantasy, cringe edgekino, loved them

Night Lords Omnibus is good. Heard good things about Eisenhorn, but personally I wasn't such a huge fan. Caiaphas Cain is fun.

ciaphas cain is always a good start

start with the NL books if you like edgy stuff, nothing wrong with that.

Start with the Eisenhorn trilogy. It's super entry level stuff. Do NOT start with the Horus heresy, there's a billion books and most are meh at best.

I read the Malus Darkblade books for Fantasy, cringe edgekino, loved them

if you liked Malus you'll probably enjoy Path of the Dark Eldar

my personal rec is the fabius bile trilogy

I only read the first two and they were pretty fun. I also read the Lucius one too and it was alright. Fabius shows up in it and fucks him over. Good stuff.

Well Eisenhorn seems to be Dan Abnett, the same guy of the Malus novels, so at least I can trust the author
Who is the pov of that book?
Yeah I like the video I posted, so I was thinking about checking those out

third one ties it up really well, i do have to say

inquisition stuff

the Eisenhorn/Ravenor/Bequin sequence. or The Vaults of Terra

edgekino

Night Lords trilogy, Path of the Dark Eldar

good chaos stuff

Fabius Bile trilogy

esoteric shit

anything by Fehervari

Who is the pov of that book?

it's a trilogy about life as a dark eldar and scheming in their society, if you liked fantasy dark elves it should be right up your alley. First book is path of the renegade featuring an archon and haemonculi team up

hopefully we get more psyker reactivity in DH, nobody ever mentioning it in RT was dumb

My guess is no.

Concerned how full voiced dialogue might mess up dialogue quality

There's nothing to worry about here as owlcat's writing is already as bad as it can possibly get

Since this is a thread about Dark Heresy the game, there are always two Dark Heresy novels by Sandy Mitchell. Never read them, but Mitchell wrote the pretty fun Ciaphas Cain books, so I guess they're worth a look.

let me hope anon

They did fix that in Void Shadows, the DLC has more reactivity to your origin choices than the entirety of the base game, which is a good sign they'll do a better job of it in Dark Heresy.

How many languages are they doing full voice acting for? This is the real budget killer.

Psyker has the most reactivity by far.

No it fucking doesn't, the DLC added a bit, but it added a bit for every origin

Thankfully only english

If I had to guess only english, as many games do

Sadly there is no Malus equivalent in 40k. Which is strange as 40k lends itself more into EDGEKINO than Fantasy.

RT gets a nip translation

This one doesn't

It fucking does. Look it up.

They probably looked at the market statistics and deduced that the Japanese do not buy their games.

This sounds like Gilbert Gottfried as a space marine

Night Lords Omnibus

It's Night Lords edgekino and one of the best chaos marine book series

Fifteen Hours

A good introduction to the Imperial Guard

The Carrion Throne

You ever see people online shitting on how bad the Imperium is? This is what they jerk off to

The Infinite and the Divine

Bill and Ted's excellent adventure if Bill and Ted were necron overlord

Storm of Iron

More CSM kino but this time featuring the Iron Warriors

Helsreach

Will convince you to start a Black Templars army

Those are my novel recommendations for reading about various factions in the 40K setting. Another honorable mention is the Badab War storyline however that story was never published in a novel, instead it was printed in Imperial Armour volume 9 and 10 alongside game content like army rules and stuff. It's still worth reading if you grab a pdf just skim through the pages

Starrok mentioned in the interview that one of the origins might become it's own archetype.
I hope its psyker a lot of the game balance would be solved if psyker was it's own archetype

I just wish psyker has reactivity this time

No elf waifu

There is a ship, fairly small, so there might still be combat

Maybe, maybe not. We're getting at least three other human companions for Puritas players, which should leave one or two more open for xenos.

she could theoretically be attracted to your inquisitor's power.

Sounds like someone we know

WRONG
RT REVEALED FIRT AN ELDAR FEMALE, AND MONTHS LATER A DELDAR MALE
THIS TIME THEY IMMEDIATELY REVEAL AN ELDAR MALE

THE SIGNS ARE OBVIOUS, A FEMALE DELDAR IS GOING TO BE REVEALED LATER IN DEVELOPMENT

TRUST THE PLAN, TRUST THE MISHULIN

sheboon in the back

ill just skip it

Rogue Trader had two xenos companions. Would be really get more for a Dark Heresy game?

These companions don't look very interesting.

And I'm willing to bet they make the Eldar actually betray you this time.

Guess you've skipped all Owlcat games to date then.

Considering they most certainly consult with Gav Thorp I'm guessing the Eldar is going to fail his mission and something horrible is going to happen to hi,.

I like dark eldar so this will almost 100% be a downgrade for me

Eldar actually betray you this time.

He will stay faithful to the femcel. Screenshot this.

Eldar actually betray you this time

Yrliet already actually betrayed you, they just changed it because people bitched about it too much

You're spreading misinformation and this was never the case, not even in the alpha datamining.

He'll be Heinrix with pointy ears

I have no time for your female foolishness, mon'keigh!

Then he gives into his baser urges and forces himself on the Femquisitor

Because having your companion characters betray you or, for instance, say, without referencing anything, turn out to be a murderous psychopath is fucking retarded. Just absolutely inexplicably stupid writing for a companion character in an RPG. A character you want the player to care about.

The goal of videogame writing isn't to prank the player.

This never happened but everyone acts like it did
This fag is the only traitor

Ever since Wrath of the Righteous something broke in Owlcat's writers in which they decided to not pander to men anymore.

Man I wish Yrliet's betrayal was written better

Your Kibbles?

The whole Yrliet thing should have been restricted to if you're dating her, to add some drama
Otherwise the Achilleas scenario was more kino and should have been the default

It's funny because Owlcat gots loads of feedback during the beta about this and explicitely acknowledged it, yet they didn't change a single thing. My guess is GW meddling. I can't see otherwise.

You can bitch about it all you want, Arue and Cassia will always be popular

Least delusional yrlicuck.

Literal fact and spelled out by the game but please continue to ignore it.

The literal only thing she didn't intend to happen in the end of Act 3 scene is getting caught herself.

Kibbles is the most for (You) character they have ever written.

I think it was meant to be something like

I can't believe Elantach was the one who blew up Crudarach

He was lying to me all along

I feel so silly having liked him

I can't stay here! They'll kill me

Hmm maybe I can join the deldar. People do that sometimes

My mother always said I'd end up in Commorragh... :(

Dark Sun

That is gonna be a never ever. No way in hell is modern WotC gonna acknowledge that setting.

She's annoying.

I don't like it

Therefore they don't pander to men anymore

You've been playing victim since WotR mindbroke you, but you're wrong and you will always be wrong, Arueshalaep andered to men, so did Cassia, and they released a DLC with a woman that literally exists to be your servant and obey your every command.
Maybe with this game you'll finally get your wish and not a single girl will pander to men, but we'll never know that until the entire cast is revealed.

Commorragh worked out fine. You rescued Ulfar and all those soldiers. In fact you should be thanking Yrliet.

I thanked her for her help with a bullet on Janus

how much of a power trip is this going to be?

is that graffiti on a run down industrial building?

HERESY

DEPLOY THE VIRUS BOMBS

This is a Dark Heresy game, not a Kryptman game.

My biggest fear is that they'll lean too hard into the grimdark nature of the setting and make the story into a miserable tragedy. Rogue Trader was already bad enough with the awful ending slides, and I'll likely end up looking up all the possible endings and major plot spoilers before I buy the game.

My second biggest concern is that there end up being no fuckable space babes. The nigger medicae does nothing for me and this time unfortunately the elf is a guy. If I get to become an inquisitor then the least they could do is give me a Callidus to occupy the position of the Inquisitor's personal cocksleeve in my retinue. Rogue psyker/daemonhost loli would be great too.

Commoragh is a fun adventure

this time

It's been like two since beta and you retards are still trying to spin that your precious knife ears dindu nuffin? Get fucking real.

Damn I take a 3 year break from gaming and there's apparently a warhammer 40k turn based RPG that's actually good?
Also it's on sale, awesome

caring about a little bit of text in the end of the game

caring about romance

Pathetic.

muh happy ending

It's fucking 40k

Have fun.

No happy ending made Cyberpunk 2077 utter shit. Same goes for any 40k medium.

Without referencing anything

SEETHE

I was seething when she cucked me.

Get the DLC. Just Void Shadows, not the cosmetic crap
It's really well done and integrated
It's not just waifushit either, there's a whole major questline unrelated to her, and extra sections of the ship you live on

Go back to watching children cartoons if it bothers you that much

Joke: how will you know when someone executed Yrliet, Jae, Kibellah, or Cassia?
Answer: don't worry, they'll tell you

Thanks for your input. Can you guess how much I care about your approval?

Is there any official list of playable classes for this game?

Not yet and judging by how they did RT looking at the tabletop is not going to help.

Get pandered to

NOOO NOT LIKE THIS

Ok then what do you want?

So Kroot only appear mid game? Ordo Xeno acoylte decides to spend 1/3rd of the game teaching the orgyn how to open a pull door before he goes to the obvious xeno colony on the same exact planet?

seething about your own headcanon cuck fantasies

A classic

Why would they show a midgame segment in the trailer though. We see a Kroot base.

Which character in Dark Heresy will generate the most ass-hurt?

It's always cute to see the only defense yrlicucks have when her treason gets brought up is to claim that she totally isn't a traitor, she is just lethally fucking stupid and suffers from retardation so massive it has become a threat to both her and your entire entourage. As if that level of mental deficiency were any better than her canonical betrayal.

on Anon Babble? The nigger doctor
in general? something unannounced.

Probably the one that will betray us at some point. The Corsair seems like the most obvious choice, so it's probably not him.

The kroot once she betrays you

Tristan

Wendog

Yrliet

What's with owlcat hand having a companion betray you every single time

Tristian is the only good one of those btw

There is no correct answer in the investigations, there are just consequences based on who you declare guilty, including seemingly unrelated innocents.

Sounds like the Inquisition all right.

It has to be a girl because no one gets ass-hurt over men
The Kroot will be reliable, something tells me
The nig doctor is too niggish for anyone to care about
It's someone yet to be seen
The ogryn will be the greatest of bros btw and will die defending you

Definitely an Underhive ganger that makes you wear a cock cage.

I bought RT today and did chapter one.
Boy, that escalated quickly.

BEHOLD THE FINAL DAWN AND DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE.

Chapter 1 is very good. Almost like a Dark Heresy adventure
Chapter 2 is where the map opens up and you go exploring

I unironically want Owlcat to make a Age of Sigmar game

shorter but deeper

That fucking sniper

Will it have orks and necrons?

I'm glad you censored that because I have to bleach my eyes now.

the one in the fight against the space marine? yeah, i had my lord captain countersnipe the git ASAP.

congrats, now every other encounter will be a sweep comnpared to it until the end of chapter 4
no wait, end of chapter 3 is a tad annoying

We had Necrons in RT and we're getting a necron dlc so hopefully not. Ork in a Dark Heresy campaign? No chance.

That's the second toughest fight in the gang
The toughest fight is, inexplicably, a bunch of gangbangers led by a certain "Cinder" you run into early in chapter 2

cinder

fucking how is it hard, anon?

Only if you fight on the hardest difficulty.

You don't send the Inquisition for those unless you need to exterminatus the aftermath.

The character reactions really sold it

Wahh! I'm too young to die, lord captain

Evaluating probability of survival: negligible

Our deaths will be magnificent!

It's a rough fight if you go in blind and likely underleveled/geared. Lots of flamers and dudes with stun grenades can really fuck you up.

Kept stunlocking everyone with his hammer so I had to use a degree of tactics

not a single waifu in revealed dh companions

There's a prime breeding age female Kroot right there

You can't fuck her
You don't even know her age
She also is ugly, like every kroot

She'll be an old hag (five)

Look at this piece of fuckable meat.

You can't fuck her

You don't even know her age

She also is ugly

Oh that hasn't stopped people before

You can't fuck her

Considering she is the postergirl with her own figurine chances are very high (Owlcat only releases figurines for the waifus)

She also is ugly, like every kroot

It's ok because she'll be cute

Even Yrliet is more attractive than that ugly scalie

I want to hear her voice actor

The Retard is a cute teen tho

How do you fuck something with no fuckable orifices? No, a beak is not a fuckable orifice you disgusting shitheap.

I'm going to blast this fucking ugly bird thing the moment I meet it.

Isn't Aurora a girl's name?

Considering she is the postergirl with her own figurine chances are very high (Owlcat only releases figurines for the waifus)

so? you can still romance her without fucking her

NO! NO I NEED SEX! I WANT SEX! IT'S ONLY ROMANCE IF THERE IS SEX!!

don't assume that I'm one of you, Yrlietsister, a romance without sex is useless, but it's still a romance

Based. Sex and offsprings are a must.

Cloaca, thighjobs, spikejobs, handjobs and yes beakjobs and who knows what else.
You lack imagination.

IT'S ONLY ROMANCE IF THERE IS SEX!!

This is literally true

Considering she is the postergirl with her own figurine chances are very high (Owlcat only releases figurines for the waifus)

It happened TWICE
It's not some set rule written in the scriptures of Owlcat religion
It's something that only happened TWICE

Not necessarily. Cassia has sex with another navigator, but that's just to get pregnant, it doesn't mean anything. She still loves you

passive aggressive cuckpost because people are bullying him

Embarrassing

People are rather physically dependent.

Elantach, if you didn't destroy my homeworld, why is there a piece of it on your trophy rack?

inb4 Aunt Theodora put it there

Come on now, Elantach

Maybe he was named after the cruiser. Don't think about it.

If it happened twice it can happen once more, I'm saving your post to make fun of you when I'm proven right.

Elfcels will never fuck a female elf

To be entirely fair to cassiafags, they don't necessarily have to have sex to breed. In fact I'd say it's very likely that they would just be taking some of her egg cells and then screening for the best possible match, fertilise the egg, do some gene manipulating and then put the zygote in a tube.

I want you to be right because I don't want a kroot of all things to be a romance, but she's female, that's a redflag

You can't have kids with the kroot girl but she can lay eggs like an enormous chicken

Just let it happen homie

To be entirely fair to cassiafags

It's a bad ending, so it's irrelevant

Oh. Well, I wouldn't know, I've literally never gone through any playthrough except full iconoclast with Yrliet (and I've finished the game three times)

iconokeks

I liked when you let Sister Argenta use your credit card and she nearly bankrupts you.

You need to see a doctor, bro

Why Owlcat are enabling that one krootfag dev anyway? What's so good about this particular type of xeno to even go as far as to make a figurine of it for the giganigga deluxe paypig edition?

Well they at least look interesting

They're either experimenting with waifufags, or they just think kroots look cool

iconoclasts who only ever pick iconoclast options are unironically just as bad as dogmatards, since they're just as dogmatic about their choices.
t. 2 dogmatic 5 iconoclast independencechad

I just want a cultist-chan waifu

Distilling the perfect waifu out of Arue, Cassia and Yrliturd.

what the fuck is this clownspeak, SPEAK ENGLISH

The kroot has literally nothing to do with the first two, at first glance she's just an uglier Yrliet, an exile and a xenos, here's hoping she doesn't betray you either

just because you're playing iconoclast doesn't mean you have to pick every single iconoclast option like the retarded ones where you save civilians from rykad minoris or when you let the genestealers go

I want to play iconoclast!

BUT I'm going to avoid picking the iconoclast option at every opportunity

Iconobros, everyone

typical dogmatard thinking

I agree, though I generally go 5 dogma, 3 icono

He took some dogma choices along with mostly icono, meaning that he had 2 ranks in dogma at the end and 5 in icono

Cope, seethe, and dilate iconotranny

Can't wait for the puritan and radical debates next

Kek

enjoy your taxes, slave

The kroot is a Wenduag. Nothing to do with Yrliet

Why
I'm not compelled to choose an iconoclast option all the time just because [Iconoclast] popped up. In fact I did quite happily blow up the container with the jeansteeler cultists inside and had zero regrets.

That's even worse

You've seen the portrait. The kroot has to be the waifu.

All ideologytards are losers
t. got the Glorious ending

Abelard should have been the rogue trader

That seemed the least insane and best for the regular inhabitants of the sector

You've seen the portrait

What about it?

I pick icono choices when dogma is just needlessly cruel

Depends on the particular sub-faction. Some radicals are right, but then you have schizo freaks like Horusians and Istvaanians.

The kroot looks so shit that she needs to make up for it by being Arue and Cassia combined.

will it really just be a spectrum? can't we choose what flavor of puritan/radical we can be? like thorians, ardentites, oblationists, horisians, xenos-hybra, etc

But she looks absolutely nothing like them

But then who's his seneschal

Character wise. Inner world wise.

Janris Danrok of course

I can't fuck that

How is she anything like them? again she's more similar to Yrliet

Yrliet has a cute voice and that's why I like her

am I supposed to know who that roastie is

oblationists

These fags have been mentioned as being in the game, I think
Most likely those will be factions you can join or work with, alongside a two-pole alignment system.

Literally who?

At least in 40k cannibalism isn't nearly as taboo

Yrliet VA
She also is in that meme french jprg, Expedition something

VA worshiping

cringe

I am a rogue trader
I AM THE TAX MAN

She also is in that meme french jprg, Expedition something

That counts as a demerit honestly, fuck that game

I guess that means Daemonhosts will be a thing?

Not so fast

If you're not dogmatic in the empire of man you're lunch.
Yes, it is that simple.

Holy based, I kneel
Me too actually.

So where did the whole "Dark Eldar romance" thing for the new game come from? Not that I mind some drussy, but was it ever confirmed?
Do you faggots realize the deldar don't even understand love as a concept and view any sort of relationship as a domination contest until one eventually kills the other?

So where did the whole "Dark Eldar romance" thing for the new game come from?

What thing? What are you talking about?

He always does it in Anon Babble

no hot woman on cover

Owlkek will have to quickly this it if they want it to sell
RT had Argenta on the center at least even if she's never ever tier

The kroot is right there

Yes and?
You created it.

>SLIGHTLY shorter game but with better reactivity and consequences/outcomes

Source?

She doesn't look hot on the cover. I don't play Owlkek games to goon.

Owlcat

I keep reading about "dark eldar romanceable companion" in almost every thread since this game was announced.

What mental illness do you have

Do you hear the voice too?

There's no evidence as such but you have to read between the lines

Dark Eldar romance

Turns out spiky chastity cages and murderfucking is a bit of a hard sell for a relatively mainstream game.

Ah, so it's wishful thinking from local coomers. Got it.

DH info from stream

You start as a Acolyte and become a Inquisitior LATER in the game. Edit: Valeria said "you can become a inquisitior, but you start as Acolyte." Then starrok reinforced it that you start as Acolyte.

The party size still 6 total. No change from Rogue Trader.

The power scale is lower than Rogue Trader

Story primarily about the Tyrant Star, learn about it.

Mommentum is gone. Morale system instead. You can build around the morale system.

Morality system. Radical/Puritan axis.

Less flat maps, more vertical maps. Changes to the engine.

Changes for the archetype system , a lot of changes. Improvements to make less overwhelming than rogue trader. No dumbed down the system.

Fully voiced game. Starrok said that dialogue still the same as Rogue trader.

Shorter game than Rogue trader.

Romance are in the game. Roughly as many as Rogue trader.

One of the Origins from Rogue Trader is becoming a Archtype in Dark Heresy (Psyker probably)

Aaron Dembski-Bowden, author of Night Lords novels, is writing a tie-in novel for the game's collection edition.

Updated models and animations.

Ship about the size of the Ebon hawk.

Similar co-op to Rogue trader.

A investigation system that flow with the whole game better going to be replacing the Colony/Trader empire management from RT.

A cameo from Rogue Trader confirmed.

Same people behind Rogue trader's OST working in Dark Heresy

It's a good game though

Go play stellar blade or whatever if you want a girl on the cover spreading her legs or shaking her giant ass
I don't play fucking 40k games to masturbate

deldar don't even understand love

I will teach her of this human thing called "love"

As someone who really loved the tabletop RPG books for Dark Heresy, getting to actually learn what the Tyrant Star is makes this game worthwhile just for that. I hope they include the Slaugth, too.

She ain't fucking twerking on the cover so what the fuck are you on about?

Seething

That is cultural, and even dark eldar are capable of love. It's just that in their desparation they are forced deeper and deeper into depravity because otherwise they get munched by Slaanesh. But if they can protect their souls through other means, such as a world spirit or Ynnead, they can be exactly as loving as any other girl in a fantasy book.

Romance are in the game. Roughly as many as Rogue trader.

I think there were about four in vanilla RT
Kroot and Elf are two
That means nig doctor (female only) and the Catachan (male only)

Ok coomer

Are you retarded? They haven't shown all the companions

Yeah no, I read the plot synopsis and can confidently say that it's even worse than 2077 and that's saying a lot.

Mmm fuckable eyes

Retard

I didn't play the game, but let me tell you why it's bad.

Rofl, lmao.

I can safely say X is bad because..... I read a plot synopsis

jesus christ

Do you faggots realize the deldar don't even understand love as a concept and view any sort of relationship as a domination contest until one eventually kills the other?

Deldar are not genetically different from Eldar (at least, not THAT much)
They can feel love and empathy, they just repress it because they live in an absolutely deranged society

I love how the first impression of this guy based on his appearance and pompus way of speaking makes you think he's a corrupt cunt, but then in the end he turns out to be the truest bro and most based person on the ship

I play CRPGs for the story and the one in 33 is so awful that I would rather masturbate with a cheese grater than suffer through it.

There were 5. Cassia, Yrliet, Jae, Heinrix and Marazhai.

So where did the whole "Dark Eldar romance" thing for the new game come from?

I have been asking for it since before Marazhai was revealed, so when he was revealed I got pissed off and went radio silent until now, where I am back again huffing hopium

The power scale is lower than Rogue Trader

The power scaling in Rogue Trader is completely bonkers. I mean, the fact that the final boss is a fucking C'tan says it all.

So is the Tyrant Star ever explained in the ttrpg?

The wiki makes it sound like its just some warp shit

Im praying no deldar or a male one again for your sake

Rogue Trader was too long that balance broke for a solid quarter of my playthrough
By the end Argenta and Abelard just multi turned killed entire encounters.
The CTAN shard just massacred by 3 full clips of heavy boltfire
No wonder the Genestealer boss was the hardest encounter. Fucker punces on top of two of you and insta gibs some of your team

Retarded mongoloid

I imagine we'll get one. Lorewise, they tie in well with the night lords and it also gives us a shapeshifter class.

Yes and?

You're under arrest!

That is normal for a RT TTRPG honestly, you're pretty much the equivalent of a space marine chapter master in power and influence both after a few game sessions. And the archeo/xenotech you can bolt on your ship can make it a match for an entire fleet.

super duper ancient evil that's so evil nobody knows what it actually is
just like the ghoul stars, not to be confused with the halo stars

Genestealer boss

All the DLC bosses they tried really hard to come up with ways to stop you from killing them in one turn like by making them turn invincible because they learned their mistake from the base game

I don't think it's explained. It seems to be based on the Wormwood Star in Revelation

Is anyone excited for his dlc

No

He's Sinistar's cousin.

RUN RUN RUN

I am, making wrong

I want the pet class so I'm excited.

I do find it funny that one of the reasons why Bolters are so good is that they have super high utility and can be equipped with all types of crazy ammo. Yet in tabletop wargame, rpg and video games they just dont have that option and are just strong smgs

I am interested unlike you.

You are an inquisitor in their version of Dark Heresy. It was never going to be low powered.

Basically star appears and everyone goes nuts. I dunno how the PC is going to solve that issue in this game.

pet shit: the DLC

No, I've got enough of that cancer in Pathfinder already. The only thing that can redeem it is a good amount of humour.

I hope they make the pet an actual character like they did with the dragon pet in Wrath of the Righteous
For example if you could get split up when you enter Commorragh, could be interesting

Sin Eaters are the Oblationist's warrior executors, sworn to destroy any who fall into damnation without mercy or exception. Many carry heretical weapons themselves, trusted by their master to stay true. When created, prospective Sin Eaters confess every sin of thought, word, or deed they have ever committed each of which is scarred into their skin by knife, brand, or tattoos of ink mixed with heretic's blood. The Sin Eater is the anointed with crematorium ash and declared damned and capable of no further or greater sin, and is further tattooed by both divine and blasphemous symbols

oblationists go hard

bro your Bismuth?

If by that you mean Solomorne's dog then they probably will. If by that you mean your pet, or other companion's lol, not gonna happen

Yeah he'll make a good dogmatic companion and I can use the 2 headed eagle pet on my officer RT

Someone on Reddit claims we know what it already is, but do we? First result too when I look up 40k tyrant star

Someone on Reddit claims we know what it already is

Reddit is wrong as always

I'm really curious to see how the romance for the Kroot goes assuming she's romanceable. Hard to see her being popular considering she has no feminine features. Usually, they have the more alien looking romance aimed at women, with Garrus and the like. Only one I can think of that was female was Vetra and she wasn't popular. Owlcat seems confident in her though considering she's the statue. INB4, it turns out she was a Callidus all along.

Why ire if they were popular?

Arue is purified and revirginized btw

Kill the romance waifufags. No don't post your cringe copypasta.

Cass is a virgin and also 15 years old

Romancefaggotry is literally the number one reason behind RPG popularity and pretty much always has been. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend Baldur's Gate 2 wasn't way more successful than Icewind Dale because the latter was essentially just a top down combat simulator while the former gave you dark elf pussy and let you defeat a god at his own game.
The only thing people remember from the base game Neverwinter Nights campaign is wanting to fuck Aribeth and the most memorable part of its expansion is that you can not only bang her but also end up in a harem end with the bad bitch drow assassin.
What's the biggest discussion topic for final fantasy 7? Tifa vs Aerith.
What's the biggest discussion topic for every purse owner game? Who's best girl. Asuka vs Rei is eternal for a reason.
the only thing people talk about in Wrath is who is better, Arue or Wenduag until it 404s
Secondaries only know about Baldur's Gate 3 but in Original Sin 2 it was the same shit flinging over Sibelle vs Lohse, original sin 1's endings are focused over whether or not your main characters forged a soulforge between each other or not.
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is remembered for its kick button and Xana's surprisingly loyal and devoted succubus ass.

It turns out that in a genre defined by "slay the dragon, get the girl, be a hero" people care about the "get the girl" part of the fairytale.

Cassia is 20

people care about the "get the girl" part of the fairytale.

Well they're wrong and shouldn't be encouraged

new copypasta i see

Maybe go back in time like 20 years to try and correct it, bro

was* a virgin

There were 5.

Oh in that case I guess the Ogryn is another romance for females

Saturnine termies are based off an old ass mail order model in the early late 80s. For decades they had no official art or lore, youtubers who dedicate a ton of time reading the lore constantly explained that they werent real and and no matter how much you looked you cant find any info about them which is true. People thought they looked nice so fans started making and selling their own takes of it. GW saw the £ sign and decided fuck it make them canon and retcon them as prototype terminator armor

Anon, there's obviously going to be more than 5 companions.

Schizo headcanon

As I said yesterday, they like complaining for the sake of complaining, they're in an eternal state of never wanting to be happy even when pandered to.

Good, Rogue Trader should have had at least 6 xeno companions. Hopefully they had a Ork kommando or freeboota and a Jokaero.

Iconoclast options are always just really stupid and self destructive if you are familiar with the setting of 40k. If you don't know better, that's alright. But choosing to save a couple hundred people over destroying a planet from becoming a giant portal to super hell is such an obvious choice if you know the risks. Feel bad for heretics that their route is half-baked though must suck

If the Kroot isn't a romance option I will not be purchasing this video game.

That's cool, GW did something right for once.

That's one egregious example. Most iconocuck options are very reasonable even in setting

he's been at it for what feels like a week

Feel bad for heretics that their route is half-baked though must suck

Got no idea what you're talking about.

A quick look at the archives tells me it's three days actually

so mindbroken it feels like a week to him

Impressive

Tifa vs Aerith

Aeris*

you're right, the skulls presentation was 3 days ago, I'm actually retarded

You will never touch a female elf

エアリス

One is one too many. I still remember feeling disgusted when she suddenly started going on about how she used to fuck some dude when we were having drinks at the bar. It also didn't help that I had a dialogue looping bug then and had to call her disgusting like 10 times in a row.

I think I might have even restarted the entire playthrough and never talked to her again after that, it's been a long time since I played Kingmaker.

Well I might be willing to give Arue a pass since she's quite literally a succubus and seducing men is what her nature demands she do. It's quite respectable to rise above her base nature and remain fidelitous, which is not something that the other girls on the list can say. Maybe Desna can even regrow her hymen, who knows.

remain fidelitous, which is not something that the other girls on the list can say.

Jae is loyal though

One is one too many

How do you reach this level?

Well yeah, they don't exist

youtube.com/watch?v=MiYaz_MBjIk&ab_channel=SNAKE

have sex

By interacting with women in my case. Disgusting fucking creatures. Fictional stories can be fictitious, and thus it's possible for women to be pure and respectable, unlike real life.

Please have sex, unironically, you will get over this form of thinking. Just hire an escort or something. Go to a bathhouse. Anything.

Show me a cute, sane virgin and I'll be happy to.

No cute virgin wants you I can guarantee it

lmao. Beggars cant be choosers, man.

Parallel universe traders:

Icono double gets to fuck Yrliet and has her wraithbone charm

Dogma double gets to fuck Argenta

Chaos double gets to turn Idira into a daemonhost and fuck her

Meanwhile you're here in the real world holding your dick

See this is why romancefags should die

How would that help? Because the more I've been with women the more I have hated sluts. If I dicked one more slag I'd probably go on a rampage or something.

I guarantee they do. In fairytales, which is the only place where they exist.

Obviously they can, I have a choice of being single.

As a romancechad I agree. However, However, since I'm a romancechad, I get to live

Idira is 50 years old.

I get to fuck Cassia so I don't care about any of those

If you've dicked sluts in the past, why would a virgin want you at all?

Whats wrong with that

She doesn't look like a sexy hag, that's pretty wrong

Because women think differently. Present a virgin girl to a man and his first thought will be "fuck yes, I'll be the first to play in that snow". Present a virgin man to a woman and her first thought will be "what's wrong with him? Why hasn't he had luck with any other woman".

Just imagine she has giant boobs

Men and women are different

he has never dicked anyone its just what he imagines
Cassia and Arue would be disgusted with you irl.

Fucking virgins is awful, genuinely. There’s the pain, there’s the blood, the movement is clunky.

Why are you even bringing Arue up when he doesn't like her

Cassia

Yes obviously, Cassia is disgusting by all peasant serfs (that's everyone here)
In fact, almost every companion would be disgusted by all the anons here

That's fine. If I were the KC or the RT, I'd be able to get an entire harem of virgins in their place.

Sure. But assuming you don't just pump and dump them, they'll learn.

I'm basically Gordei Skatov, which renders me disposable.

I don't care about having sex with someone I love, I just care about how good it feels

Sounds like incel behavior, chud

I didn't read his garbage. All the virgin crybabies tend to include Arue because the revived hymen shit.
This

maybe, but its also one of the first examples you get while playing. kind of sours you on the whole idea
that is cool but I meant more in terms of immediate effect on the game