Not a bad game but how do people seriously think it's one of zelda's best? Even just among the 3D games it's definitely below OOT, WW, and of course BOTW/TOTK.
Not a bad game but how do people seriously think it's one of zelda's best...
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I beat it recently, honestly I hate the masks. I hate that mechanic. I feel like you spend so much time in this game equipping masks. To be fair I played the N64 version of this game and the 3DS version of OoT so maybe OG OoT is as bad but still. It's a good game with really nice puzzles but not really that deep at all like soýllenials would have you believe.
Dude the moons freakin' comin down but I'mma just sell my milk because I like sellin mah milk
WOOOOAHHH HECKIN DEEP DUDE AND DEPRESHING!
They don't know IF the moon is really coming down, they just guessing, there's a fucking cut-scene about it in the mayor's office.
he didn't like Kafei and Anju
:(
it's the New Vegas of Zelda games if that makes sense
Nah man, it's kino. OOT but with an interesting setting. The repeating 3 day cycle was and still is incredibly satisfying to optimize. There's tons of different ways to approach puzzles and obstacles. Very little handholding compared to other 3D Zeldas. It has some of Koji Kondo's best music he ever made. Fierce Deity is cool as shit.
waaah waaah i have shit taste
not my problem
In that it makes Anon Babble mad enough to talk like basedboys, like 's greentext?
this one room has more soul than every game made in the last 10 years
there isn't below WW
You can literally see it if you look up. Is everyone in termina retarded?
It reuses too many assets/ideas from OOT to be the better Zelda. The setting also feels unbelievable. The overworld looks like a Mario select level map.
Phil Turd
They like the games strengths and ignore it's flaws
They composed a song for that single room and it only appears in that room in the entire game, soul.
It's literally just a repurposed expansion with a mechanic designed entirely to pad the play time.
gay game beloved by a small number of loud hipsters
It's a good game for people that like doing the same thing over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over and over again.
Whew!! Rock o-ACK
WW btfos most other zeldas in exploration.
Zelda games are just watered down versions of other games accessible to kids and idiots, with the only real unique thing about them being the setting and characters. So of course the one that banks the hardest on an interesting world atmosphere and characters would be the best one
The sky in Tears of the Kingdom should have been WW2, I'm still bad how empty it was
This is the kind of thing you would type if you had not replayed the game since you were 10, in reality there is very little substance.
No hidden islands because the sea is laid out on a neat grid.
Like half the islands are generic reefs with canons or copy/pasted great fairy islands.
On the off chance you actually do find an island with a unique puzzle to it it's just a tiny one trick thing even smaller than a Shrine in BotW.
clocktown has a lively atmosphere with lots of social activity present within it. the way quests change drastically with the time, or get locked out due to time windows, and the riddles involved with finding out those quests exist, involve a lot of people and personal interactions that feels authentically human. that's the only way i could describe it. i used to think it was the visual style of the town and the music, but deep down, the way you can interact with people made it such a compelling experience. the scale of the town wasn't too small or too large to explore. it felt just right.
It's a continuation of Ocarina of Time but vastly different. You can't play Ocarina of Time the way you would play Majora's Mask.
I was surprised by the amount of people that even consider this game a good game at all considering how tedious it is. Many think is better than OOT? They are insane.
It's a refinement of OOT, this makes it hard to rank it far from OOT. It's the only 3D Zelda to achieve that height aside from OOT itself.
WW is dramatically worse than OOT. BOTW/TOTK aren't even on the map.
OoT and Majora are the best 3D games. Besides Twilight Princess, the rest were meh.
fpbp op is an attention seeking whore
Wind waker was the beginning of the 3d dark age that took botw happening before zelda could climb out.
repurposed expansion mogging every zelda games that came after it
holy fucking kino
This chart is wrong, by the way.
genuinely how did tp sell more than oot?
Because quality doesn't correlate to sales. Marketing does. And TP was surprisingly well marketed for Zelda in the mid aughts. Simple as.
it unironically looked like a return to form at first glance so people were hyped thinking they were gonna get a new OOT/MM adventure
if quality doesn't correlate to sales then why does the best zelda game completely dwarf every other in sales?
It would be very unsurprising that a wii game outsold an n64 game.
Two consoles, I'd suspect. I also don't know if it counts the HD release.
The N64 actually had a very low install base in the grand scheme of things, meanwhile TP was a launch title for Wii which many more people owned.
Also Zelda's reputation for quality had grown by that time, largely thanks to OoT. TP hype was fueled by nostalgic gamers looking forward to a "return to form" after MM and WW had been more experimental.
yfw this asshole thinks he's clever and unique for this contrarian shit-take
mcdonald must be the finest restaurant on earth according to you.
they do make a good chicken sandwich
Cause people have no idea what people are like and this game really likes to tell you it's sad and dark. People who can't handle an actual story like this because this game just jumps to the story conclusions and has no story. All of the things that people cite as unique dialogue in this game are in other Zelda games, they're just out of the way, and this kind of dialogue is in other games and far better done.
People have schedules? So real!
Right, like no other game does this, nor do you interact with it. You're just going to song of time for every NPC. Plus the kafei and anju quest is a chore and the absolute low point of the game.
Also stone tower is more brown than TP and is the worst N64 dungeon with how boring and repetitive it is, which is a good summary of this game.
Twilight Princess was one of Nintendo's most hyped up games at the time and it came out as a launch title on what would be Nintendo's most popular console. Until the Switch, anyway.
HD release
about that... (no this isn't the lowest, you can guess which games are below it besides the CDi releases)
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I presume asterisk means two consoles? BOTW released on Wii U and Switch while TP released on Wii and GC.
below WW
No. Absolutely fucking not. MM surpasses WW before you even set foot in Snowhead.
Because TP genuinely ranks among the most hyped video games of all time. If you were there, you wouldn't have to ask.
Yep. I can't find the individual sales for GCN's Twilight Princess, but I know it was pitiful in Japan because it was a Club Nintendo exclusive over there.
MM is better than WW but you're retarded if you think it's better before snowhead. MM peaks late game. Great bay onward is when the game gets good. The swamp sucks, snowhead sucks. You can't even visit romani ranch early until after snowhead. Literally the only good thing early game in MM is clock town.
the only good thing in early game is the meat of the game
you don't say
I agree that MM peaks in the later game. I don't think MM even needs to get that far to beat WW. It does, and does so soundly, but it's not necessary.
Romani ranch only matters for bunny hood and Cremia hug. Epona can get bent
i wanna live in romani ranch
erm bro you're not gonna mention the sexiest character in the game, romani?
Name 3 other video games in 1999 where NPCs have schedules on the same level as MM.
Ultima 5
Ultima 6
Ultima 7
Not a bad game but how do people seriously think it's one of zelda's best?
It's the other half of OoT, THE greatest video game of all time. And truly the most unique game in the franchise.
Both 3DS demakes are absolute shit compared to the N64 originals. You are just a schizo fucker lacking meds.
Majoras mask is the best game by far and it will always be the best because every developer is too much of a pussy to use risky mechanics like that again.
Majora's Mask has the best story, that's for sure.
genuinely wtf do you mean by risky mechanics? a time limit? bud that's been done 1 million times since.
Not really. Link literally enters almost every plotline in this game when they've already progressed to near completion.
Like for example the stuff with the zoras. Everything has already happened by the time link gets there. You don't see the pirates get told about the treasure by skull kid, you don't see lulu's eggs get stolen, you don't see mikau meeting with the marine researching or going off to get lulu's eggs back.
All of this has already happened. All you get to experience is the conclusion of all this, getting the eggs back, restoring lulu's voice, mikau's death, etc.
This game really has no proper narrative development in the majority of its plotlines, it's just "the ending", "the ending", "the ending" over and over. It's almost a no-story game.
Yeah cause he's there to fix the story chuckle nuts.
It's a bird! It's a plane! No, wait... it's the flying fuck I don't give!
A justification doesn't make it better, twit. This is akin to literally just removing 2/3rds of a book. In no world is this good writing.
there is no time limit in MM
why are you so assblasted? i never even said the 3ds versions were better
*spins an imaginary crank with my left hand as a middle finger rises up from my right*
Because autists like to be contrarian.
Sure it is unique but masks sucked ass, time limit sucked ass, there was way less dungeons.
It is just a mediocre Zelda with a cool gimmick.
Top 7 3d Zeldas?
Transformation masks were cool as fuck, with the exception of maybe Giant's Mask. The other ones were basically doe a hesrt piece or two and generally signified you had completed a sidequest (which often unlocked you another one). I think its a good way to chart progression, especially with the added info from the notebook.
there is no time limit. You never played the game like every haters.
This is exactly why we should kill all zoomers and end humanity
They are better. Nintendo might be greedy asian Jews but they definitely make decent remasters and remakes.
time limit sucked
Shitter detected, can't beat a children's game dungeon in 3 fucking hours
Bro the entire game is built around its time limit. That's why you have to keep resetting time...because there's a time limit.
There is no time limit. You'd know if you played the game.
Transformation masks were gimmicky as fuck. There is literally zero reason to ever be deku link unless the game requires you to be him. There is literally zero reason to ever be goron link unless the game requires you to be him or you want to move quickly but can't call epona. There is literally zero reason to ever be zora link unless the game requires you to be him.
Sure it's cool...for like 5 minutes.
Is MM3D as bad as ecelebs and redditors say? I've already played the N64 copy, just mainly curious if there's any new content or changes worth checking out
the quality of life changes are so nice to have, but the boss changes do genuinely make the game feel worse.
I'd probably just try and find a video from some youtuber that isn't annoying as hell for the breakdown. Some of the texture work is nice (although too bright and drastically different in spots) and the QoL stuff is great. But the bosses and changes to movement for Deku and Zora Link... those drag the game down hard. And who truly asked for fishing?
Sorta like Dark Souls
first 3d zelda game was OoT
OoT was one of the best fully 3d games ever made for consoles at the time, even better than most computer games
MM comes out and captures the magic of OoT but is also different, lets you play as 3 other races. biggest complaint about the game was that it was too short
WW was knocked for having a boring gimmick and also looking too cartoony
TP was designed by a different guy who liked super linear games, it had the worst 3d zelda gimmick (the wolf) the worst 3d zelda item lineup (other than double claw)
I stopped playing Zelda here.
Maybe BoTW is better idk. But from what I played OoT and MM are both the best and you could argue over which one deserves the title the msot but WW and TP arent even close to as good and i heard that other one was "meh" as well.
the story doesnt count unless every plot point is spoon fed to me as it happens while my player character is witnessing it
ahh the modern gamer.
And who truly asked for fishing?
The devs since it was going to be in the original.
no more fast skipping with the deku by spinning before you touch the water
zora swimming costs mana
Ice arrows can only freeze water in designated spots
bosses were dumbed down
But wait, the bombers notebook is more accessible and we added a quicksave funvtion for you! the game is saved!
Clocktown>>>>>Castle Town
Hyrule Field>>Termina Field
Great Bay>Lake Hylia
Snowhead>>Death Mountain
Swamp>Lost Woods
Gerudo Desert>>Ikana Canyon
Anju>>Zelda
I got ripped off not going on adventures as a kid
bombers notebook is more accessible
It also loads a lot more slowly everytime you bother to use it