I fantasy racism in video games really necessary?

I'm genuinely tired of based fantasy racism and epic grimdark shitholes. I much prefer hopeful and uplifting settings with disparate races united against common threats these days.

I'm still confused as to when Chad flipped from being negative to positive.
Seems like it happened overnight

I run a dnd campaign where all the humans are white and every non-human is treated with discrimination. None of the PCs are human lol It's kino.

Goblins should act like romanians
Only trannies like coomeshit xittergoblins

Most people here probably don't even know that chad was an insult once.

Was it all planned with your players or did it just come that way?

With this slav having come to represent Chad, it's easy for people to assume that he's meant to be a positive ideal, instead of what he actually is: an insane retard.

Posting the accurate version.

racism is a concept that was invented in the 19th century by jews, until then people only cared about what your religion was and the common belief from ancient greeks to the invention of genetics was that people are essentially all the same and it's just a matter of how much you're exposed to the sun that decides your skin color and behavior

It's not even necessarily negative, it's just taking the opposite of whatever the 'undesirable' traits are to absurd levels.

The real truth from the chad meme is that people will love you even if you're insane retard if you have enough confidence and charisma to pull it off.

You say this but European history is nothing but "Fuck those frenchies".

Yes, and you shouldn't be playing the monster races, especially if your going to play them like they're just a goofy looking human anyway.

Anyone who plays a female goblin is a coomer and you already made a mistake inviting them into your game in the first place.

Only retarded christcucks believe this nonsense. People have always been racist, and always will be.

It was negative, prior to current meme calling some Chad basically meant calling them a dumb jock.

Demonstrably false.

That sounds fun as fuck

I thought this was a goblin thread. I am disappoint

I get the short stack aspect, but do you really want to do with jews?

how would a goblin make it past the city gates, let alone walk all the way into a tavern

Is fantasy racism in video games necessary

Much like pretending racism doesn't exist irl, pretending like racism wouldn't exist in a fantasy game when the multiple races aren't just potential sub categories of a species but having elves, dwarves, animal people and humans all exist in a setting makes way more sense than everyone suddenly having 0 prejudice

that's just anglo history

Nah, Meds and Slavs also feel the same way through their history.

jew

Yeah, but then people realized that the people calling others "chads and stacies" were bitter losers. Incels, hamplanets, etc . That was the whole point of the meme, it was making fun of people like you

I don't get it, did she cram bacon and eggs in her vagina and bread in her ass?
Is this some kind of bond burger joke where it was never designed to make any sense?

meanwhile in ancient history entire civilizations were genocided for simply speaking a slightly different dialect

I don't think they ever gave a shit about the french, only anglos and germans care, and those are pretty much the same thing

Why does every people on earth have a victim complex? Is there anyone who doesn't?

well that ethnicism/tribalism not racism.

French people are so insufferable they still still tell you that the Balkan starts east of France

wars and racism are not the same thing, if you walk into a tavern in medieval europe then people will care whether you're christian or not and will give little shit about your skin color

get yourself checked for autism unironically

would these kinds of people really prefer if a game like valkyria chronicles dropped the subtext and just called darcsens jews instead

Fantasy racism is cool, not because it's a good thing, but because it is another challenge to overcome to thrive in these harsh, hostile lands.
Playing as an Argonain, freeing slaves and crushing racists heads was so satisfying.

Obviously pretending prejudice doesn't exist is immersion breaking but you should leave your players with a path to overcome such hurdles.

bitter losers

And the worse part is that people that see nerds as losers are still fucking here shitting all over themselves and defending roody poos and loo poos

Depends if you considered the Francs french. Regardless, Napoleonic war was definitely "Fuck those french" by everyone in europe.

Difference being the french deserve it.

Depends on which definition of race you use. Skin colour isn't the only marker.

if races can't interbreed and there's limited land and resources it would make sense for there to be racism.

Heebsister... this isn't the move

Flavor racism is cringe. Make it mean something or fuck off.

goblin women

free use living onaholes with no rights

goblin men

horny rapists that need to be beaten with the sharp end of the anti-horny sword

goblin men in a world without gnomes

bankers

if you walk into a tavern in medieval europe then people will care whether you're christian or not and will give little shit about your skin color

You know at any time you can go back and read historical records of people being racist in ancient history. Though the concept of race has evolved, people have always had a conception of common ancestry and ethnicity. In ancient Europe it was mostly just different Europeans being racist to other Europeans

Shut up you fucking virgin. Incel yourself irl

racism is a concept that was invented in the 19th century by jews

that's true, but the rest of your post is absolutely retarded, you fucking monkey

You are currently being baited m8

People realized that chad is just a dude who doesn't even realize that his existence harms incels or he would even genuinely try to help them, and incels were bitter for a lot of reasons that are their own fault on top of the reasons that arent their own fault.
Chad is also as different from normies as they are from incels, so hes alowed to get away with having politically incorrect opinions if they are true.

you're trying to muddy the lines between religious and cultural animosity and racism, and they're again not the same thing, you can find records of a dad calling his son a retard drunkard fuck, is that racism? you can call anything racism if you use it as a catchall term for any conflict between people

Do you really want to lure shortstack horny, mischievous little walking onaholes with shiny coins and stretch out their green pussies with your BHC (Big Human Cock) to the point that they become addicted and demand that you turn them into a brood mother so that you may bid to take over the realm with your horde of gobbo-human offspring?

Yes.

But gobbos are fantasy jews. You let one in and they will flood your kingdom with nigge- I mean Orcs.

Union between a knight and a draconic creature is blessed by god

It depends on what kind of setting you are going for. Racism works in the Elder Scrolls, it works in Fire Emblem Telius, it wouldn't work in Kirby.

You let one in and you breed an army to overthrow the faggot kingdom youre apart of*

Want to do with jews

The Jews in Warhammer are Chaos dwarves.

So, yes.

I can't find the anime with the guy holding an egg is so you will have to settle for this

Yes

What the fuck happened between 1948 and 1958? Where did it all go so wrong?

it's literal facts, you retard reddit faggot, pliny wrote about climes too

There can be no doubt, that the Æthiopians are scorched by their vicinity to the sun’s heat, and they are born, like persons who have been burned, with the beard and hair frizzled528; while, in the opposite and frozen parts of the earth, there are nations with white skins and long light hair. The latter are savage from the inclemency of the climate, while the former are dull from its variableness529.

sun exposure has been seen as the reason of differences between people since greeks up until modern science

To be fair, most fantasy settings would probably have higher level of prejudice than actual history just because other sapient creatures exist.

They have to do that because they can't admit that racism, as it exists, is a modern concept based on faulty pseudo science.

This is a gob thread. Take your scalie whore and leave

Ain't no way such a trans-coded post is coming from a Christian

Goblin sex.

Chorfs are cool, I'll allow it.

Pretending that racism doesnt exist between different species when humans are literally racist to their own kind is immersion breaking, yes. Just have different people have different stances. Some people love [species], some are neutral, some hate them, usually because [species] killed/raped their loved ones or betrayed them or something. You know, how reality works. You can then either make it a focal point where the PCs explore this and either repair relations or exasperate them (there will always still be hold outs on either side), or its just background fluff to set up why NPCs act differently. If youre clever, you have stuff like politicians being all nice but secretly undermining other species and other shit to add nuance.

kobold

draconic

Dragons would never want to be associated with cold blooded cocksleeves

Oh this is a stealth Anon Babble thread

Unless there's a specific reason every being universally became an individualist, yes it is. Fantasy races are specifically made to be distinct and maintain some level of racial culture, so the expectation that a member of that race adheres to that culture is reasonable. That's on the world behalf.
As far as the player, if there's no difference in how races are treated, it destroys any roleplay ability on their behalf and race becomes nothing more than a stat stick. So if you're planning to do a murder hobo dungeon crawling campaign where story and rp is nonexistent, then it would be silly to include fantasy racism.

It's a lot of things.
Either join in on the french bashing or post gobbos.

That wont stop Kobolds from going "we wuz dragons n' shit"

only in your mind faggot

technically the greeks weren't wrong in saying that it's climate that decides how people look, not on an individual level but on a population level for sure, eventually natural selection will make it so people in colder climates have lighter skin and people in hotter climates have darker skin, in a fantasy setting realistically there'd be a reason for the different appearances of races, likely something to do with magic and then it would probably animosity between different types of magic, races that are lets say nature magic might have animosity towards dark magic and such

Theyre obviously edible panties, dumbass

It was supposed to be a stealth gob thread but op was too stealthy.

No, he's right though.
t. sex haver

Erm, they didn't know the biological distinction of race, so they couldn't be racist CHUD

Sure they still discriminated based on appearance and hereditary traits that we would call race in the modern day, but they didn't know it was genetic so they weren't racist

You're rather dim

Why is her tail so fat

The gods of fantasy are truly cruel for gifting goblins with the service height and then giving them long sharp jagged teeth.

That's what dragons ARE though.

That tends to require your magic system to actually have any degree of depth, so don't expect it in most fantasy settings. Otherwise, I do agree.

In Elder Scrolls most racism is the result of religious divides combined with historical grievances. It's why people are both incredibly racist towards each other and also generally willing to work together. It's hardly a primal revulsion caused by magic.

that's goblins

They aren't racist

Cause they don't know about race

Honestly, how is this any way dumb or wrong? You can be prejudiced against others based on matters other than race. The Greeks were often prejudiced against non Greeks and other Greek cities. Neither one involved race or genetics.

they didn't really, the main forms of discrimination before modern times was number 1: religion, number 2: social status (nobility, merchants, soldiers etc) 3. language, again you're trying to muddy waters like a faggot, in group biases existing is not the same as racism, at this point you're crossing into sjw levels where everything is a racism

there were numerous wars fought because someone was the wrong type of Christian you stupid retard

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candy

for breakfast

Goblins are just NSFW (forma del OSHA violation) Gmomes (and that's a good thing).

yes

Could goblins be racist against other goblins?

I'd say racism is part of fantasy.

and how is that racism, you absolute fucking assmongling retard, if anything it's proof of the opposite, there has been many times when a christian faction consisting of many different races was fighting a christian faction consisting of many different races, it just displays the point that people cared about minor differences in faith while giving no shit about someone's skin color in particular

There better be more than just dessert otherwise you are going to starve.
No I am right you fucking samefag. If you never put food inside a woman's vagina and then ate it then you are a vigin.

Depends where you are, what that race's relationship with the area is. Depends Depends Depends Depends.
Not everyone is welcoming, not everyone is exclusionary.

Dwarves hating elves is the pinnacle of medieval fantasy humor and I will NOT hear otherwise

racism is just another element of story telling. it isn't necessary or unnecessary, except as it relates to the narrative and drama being told.

Cave goblins laughing at city goblins because they have to marry a human man instead of ambushing one on the road and raping him

Okay they might have discriminated by ethnicity but they discriminated based on other things too so that means they didn't also discriminate based on ethnicity

Okay

Luv me Tani.

Everybody wanna fuck female goblins.

That sounds more like zoomer vs boomer discourse than racism.

it's only natural. elves live so much longer than dwarves they would dominate them if the dwarves didn't hold generations spanning grudges towards their centuries old elven wrongdoers.

food in the pussy has never appealed to me. i don't even particularly like getting all gross and sticky by employing whipped cream during sex.

Female goblins are MADE to be fucked, impregnated and abandoned. I bet there is a word in goblinese for "cum and dump".

The darcsens were an analogy for the japanese though.

Yeah
Just like IRL one

elder scrolls is the "kids playing with dolls" type setting where gods created mortal races and are playing around with mortals like they're their dolls, anything that happens in the setting can be just handwaved away with "because gods" without having to involve any sort of logic or reasoning

You're right, we need a change. I propose that goblins are all rich businesswomen who look down on human males and think they're only good for semen milking.

Ethnicity is race

Also you can't really discriminate against ethnicity when you don't have nation states. Unless you want to argue Athenian is a ethnicity and always has been.

You can be prejudice against others based on matters other than race, yes. However, race as we define it today is a grouping of hereditary traits passed down that are shared through a group. What you've posted is literally that. Due to a difficulty for most to move around, racial and regional groups were largely one in the same. So when they say Æthiopians referring to those in a region, they are also defined as the features that Æthiopians have which are based on race. It's only in very recent history that region and race have begun to largely separate because of the ease and availability of relocation.
Yeah no shit there were other forms of discrimination. You also forgot regional, though maybe you're implicitly tying that into language. But as stated above, different regions were inherently tied to race because of the lack of mobility most people had.

Me neither, but it is something you have to do at least once. Start with something simple like lemon drops or those ginger chunk candies you can get at costco.
From there you can decide if you want to try more salty and savory foods like bacon or a burrito.

alright you

Ok virgin

elven wrongdoers.

you realize the grudge between elves and dwarves comes from the dwarves stealing the nauglamir, killing the elven king, starting a war with the elves and destroying and plundering their city
the elves literally did nothing wrong, it was all on the dwarves
total dwarf death

Arabs didn't (and still don't lol) think africans were the same species. This was before modern genetics proved that they aren't.

no, goblins are indians.

Of course you'd be predisposed agains a race of well-known ugly thieves and delinquents.
Anyway, goblins are fine as long as they keep their hands to themselves

Ethnicity is race

Uhhhhh yes? 90% of people use it as a synonym and it is literally just ethnicity blown up to a larger category.

Also you can't really discriminate against ethnicity when you don't have nation states.

What level of schizophrenia is this? I guess the Amenians just don't have conflicts with turkey. I guess the hutus and tutsis just get along great

the bible also says they're not human

Truly it's a timeless book.

greetings xir, our tavern has non-alcoholic cocktails and everything is exactly as accessible as it would be if you were any other race, thus rendering your choices in character creation meaningless

the villain is in the next room, your choices are to either hug him or sing him a song to defeat him, his crime was misgendering your boyfriend

Domain: eukaryota (two chromosomical sexes)
Kingdom: animalia
Phylum: chordata
Class: mammalia
Order: primates
Suborder: haplorhini
Infraorder: simiformes
Family: hominidae
Subfamily: hominidae
Tribe: homini
Genus: homo
Species: h, sapiens
Race: caucasanoid, negroid, mongoloid, american, australoid

This is science, reality, proven facts. Nothng will ever change this.
Anything else is fantasy, delusion or cope (or any combination of before).

different regions were in different climes and people understood that since the greeks, and that different climes have people with different skin colors, but they never thought that any of them were a different race, just that they were exposed to different amount of sun, not even remotely the same as the modern concept of race, and again you're muddying waters, french having beef with anglos wasn't considered a race issue, it was considered either a religious issue or a "they're a different tribe" issue, and unless you had direct conflict with a tribe you wouldn't care about them, europeans generally didn't have issues with africans or asians so when an asian or african showed up in europe everyone just went "ok, it's people from a different clime, whatever" they definitely didn't have any concept of "OMG ITS A NIGGER BEAT HIM OMG ITS A FUCKING CHINKY CHINK" that's a completely modern invention

This was before modern genetics proved that they aren't.

Modern genetics actually proved almost everybody is related to Africans. You would know this if you passed high school biology.

People don't know what words mean

This means they are the same thing.

Not a excuse.

I guess the Amenians just don't have conflicts with turkey

They had a conflict with the Ottoman Empire ran by Turks.

I guess the hutus and tutsis just get along great

tribal conflict between people living in the same country.

also not acknowledging the differences between you and marginalized goblin folx is even worse! silence is violence! you must communicate with them in a very specific and self-patronizing way that we have deemed acceptable otherwise you are literally evil and trying to genocide them.

we have beds just for your size

economically makes no fucking sense, that innkeeper would be on the street sucking dick for coppers with that business model

However, race as we define it today is a grouping of hereditary traits passed down that are shared through a group

No, it's pseudoscience with no bearing in reality. Trait implies there is anything that is actually shared and not just made up nonsense.

What you've posted is literally that.

No? What is the trait that defines, racially, Athenians from Spartans or vice versa?

Due to a difficulty for most to move around, racial and regional groups were largely one in the same.

Are you stupid? People have migrated for all of human history. No group that lives in Europe today lived there ten thousand years ago.

So when they say Æthiopians referring to those in a region

I can give you a long list of people who disagree with Ethiopians existing as a group, most of them from Ethitopia.

they are also defined as the features that Æthiopians have which are based on race.

Which do not exist.

It's only in very recent history that region and race have begun to largely separate because of the ease and availability of relocation.

If you mean "All of human history' then yes, by comparison to the planet as a whole that is very recently.

Lie. make better posts.

my high school and college said no

It's just a clever marketing tactic. Beds are simply lower to the ground or have a stool available. The gobs sleep like kings and tell their friends.

tribal conflict

lol, lmao, lmfao even

proven facts

I'm being pedantic here, bit wouldn't it be more accurate to say...?

observable facts

yes, it adds flavor and actually makes the setting immersive
the idea that everyone is friendly, tolerant, and all around happily dancing in the circle with everyone
BUT
at the same time there is some evil cult that is trying to revive an ancient god that you have to stop
is fucking idiotic
of course there is no need to lean into it too hard but still making it overly friendly defeats the point

only in warcraft
they're incompetent fodder everywhere else

Perfectly natural for a taven owner to have issues with goblins, if they are just a bunch of wild marauders like in most standard settings. Part of the charm of playing one who tries to fit in with Civilization and gives the party some RP opportunities. I don't see the issue here.

Halotype autism

Read up how biology actually works, anon.

No? This literally does prove my case. The likelihood of somebody having something does not mean black people cannot have that trait. You've already gone from "Race is clearly defined biological traits" to "Race is the STATISTICAL CHANCE of people having a trait". Besides, the very nature of a European people in a genetic sense (Which mostly isn't a real thing if you actually understand how biology and stats work) largely serves to highlight how meaningless and historically inaccurate it is to apply racism to the past.

NOT CANDY, REESES PUFFS CEREAL

be english

know english history

read everyone ITT saying english-french is racist or religious

know that the french conquered us and ever since it's been a massive norman cope over losing their french lands and the french crown (literally had the french coat of arms in the royal family's until a couple hundred years ago)

don't know why no-one's pointing out english-irish relations or spanish race charts or german-slav relations or german-askenazi relations or german-african relations or german-italian relations or german-german relations

goblins are also kikes in harry potter, which is more popular than warcraft.

JUST ONE BITE, AND MY TASTEBUDS ARE LOST IN A SEA OF CHOCOLATEY FLAVOR

Because you start with the basics and largely move down from there. The concept of prejudice being in any way drawn along geographic groups is inherently laughable.

It depends. But then again, we're talking about video games, not literature, so probably not.

i accept your concession.

Sometimes they are but usually the gnomes or goblins of a fantasy universe are.

Modern genetics actually proved almost everybody is related to Africans.

You're related to literally every single animal on the planet.
But a mouse born in a stable...

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ITS CANDY FOR BREAKFAST

even if they can interbreed it makes sense. maybe even moreso since now it's not just plain tribal competition that eventually ends with either dominance and extermination or established boundaries and peace, it's also sexual competition which never ends and only grows over time due to the constant introduction of new hybrids and variant mini factions and the prejudices that come along with them.

Define prejudice.

Nuh uh, begets nuh uh.

being in any way drawn along geographic groups

if you start with a retarded premise, of course you'll reach a retarded conclusion.

Jesus christ I forgot all about those commercials

Africans are a separate branch we share a common ancestor with, we did not "evolve from africans"

Europeans have more neanderthal dna in them, an objectively different species, than they do africanxnppj