Glad you could make it Uther

Glad you could make it Uther

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Uther gets a big redemption arc where he learns it was okay that he fucked up with Arthas and was at least partially responsible for him becoming the Lich King

Arthas gets unceremoniously told to fuck off and die forever by Good Sylvanas while Uther stands by and watches

I never got that, by their own nu-Lore Arthas did the morally and objectively thing in Stratholme while Uther's lack of action doomed the soul of every dude that turned into a zombie to eternal suffering in not-hell.

bold of you to assume I give any thought whatsoever to any lore or story after wotlk

caring about Warcraft lore after what they started doing to it in Vanilla

still caring about Warcraft lore after what they continued doing to it in TBC

somehow still caring about what remains of Warcraft lore after everything in WotLK

Pretending like there's some socially acceptable cutoff point for the ruination of WC3 is funny

Yeah, but, Arthas is white and male and presumably not gay. Meanwhile Sylvanas is a strong independent dead woman who don't need no man. Written by a guy simping for a fictional corpse. Try not to think too hard about this clown world bullshit.

It's a boomer thing.

you need to understand that for blizzard Arthas represents their old straight white male audience which they fucking hate and loathe

not gay

He didn't bang Jaina. Do you need more proof?

yep and it's wotlk

start posting coomer pics or the thread will die

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shadowlands isn't canon

was it Sneedolands or Slanderlands?

The difference is Arthas killed Sylvanas.

wotlk is where they turned it into disneyland cringe

Arthas should have a redemption arc

LOL
LMAO
you can tell these retard election tourists have never played the game

Does jaina even have a single shred of dialogue about it? For some reason sylvanas has become the only character who seems to have any semblance of emotion towards arthas despite jaina being his gf at the time of him becoming the fucking literal harbinger of death

I honestly would rather have Arthas come back as a villain than as a redeemed hero, but not by the nu writers. Just leave him be

banger

Their models were so fucking ugly and their weapons looks like toys for kids. I like humans in alliance but in wow they look like Disney characters.

She made a sad face when Sylvanas deleted his soul forever, that's pretty much it.

I don't give a shit about Arthas and Uther, what happened to my nigga Ner'Zhul?!

Lich King in WoW was horrible, and they retconed that Nerzul and Arthas became one so it was just Arthas playing his role of a bad villain. It's better not to touch old stuff ever again.

He died.

Shadowlands was suppose to be the afterworld!

why did Arthas need to personally purge a city of a few thousand citizens (who he was sworn to protect) when the unstoppable undead army was in the millions?
he's not making a very big difference either way, and it also puts his own people through the horror of being murdered by their prince, no?
Uther might have known what was the right thing to do on account of being the leader of the Order of the Silver Hand and his mentor, you know, the person Arthas is supposed to listen to

He was a boss in Shadowlands, you kill him (again).

what's the worst lore offender?

The Jailor put Arthas in an unfavorable position.
If he did not act, his people would still die and become monsters.
If he did act, which he did, he would be seen as a killer despite all of them being already dead.
The only way for Arthas to save face would be to have the support of Uther and Jaina but they abandoned them because they didn't want to tarnish their image.
So it's not about Arthas being a bad prince, but about Arthas being played like a fiddle by a titan like entity.

#FreeStratholme

WoW lore is dogshit in general but Shadowlands will always be the worst offender for going back and fucking up the entire W3 story for no reason.

Undeads weren't an unstoppable army of millions at the time. Stratholme was the first big town to get plagued, and if you played the game you'd know that the newborn undead army runs over you if you don't kill the citizens.

It wasn't in the millions yet, if Arthas purged Stratholme and stayed home instead of chasing Mal'Ganis they probably could have won honestly.

It sounds like spite from the nuwriters to the old ones. Can't make anything as good that people still talk about it to this day? Destroy it! Now no one will want to talk about it in favor of your desecration of it.

my favourite thing about people who think Arthas made the wrong choice completely forget that Mal'Ganis was in the fucking area, and if Arthas decided to 'quarantine' then the Scourge would be bigger because Mal'Ganis doesn't give a fuck, and even more of the alliance would get smoked

this

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so that's why in one quest you find a fridge full of stolen breast milk... it was the J'lor's fault

Which warcraft race would produce the most milk.
I think Tauren.

Well that's just cheating anon, the cow women will obviously produce the most milk. It's the second place one that's up for grabs. My money is on the panda women, the deliciously plump panda women...

futa Draeinei

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Pandaren have high bodyfat so my guess is that their milk would be bad for your health, if your drank lots of it.
This discussion is very relevant to blizzard's irl practices of course.

It's actually fem humans

nuwow is just shocking

They may have lost eventually to the burning legion in the sense that many of the events that take place in the campaign no longer happen, and the new events may not have lead to humans orcs and night elves working together to defend the world tree.
But looking at it in short terms, the Northern Kingdoms likely could have been saved if Uther manned up and did what needed to be done.

Lightforged Draenei Death Knights (and warlocks) is a pretty big one

The lore of the lightforged is that they have the essence of the Light branded into them (hence the name) so the idea of them being able to become Death Knights or wield Fel magic is fucking retarded

*DING*
It's done

alternate timeline where the Scourge was stopped at Dalaran and WC3 ended there

devolves into the Horde and Alliance waging an endless, pointless war that ruins the planet

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GARITHOS DID NOTHING WRONG

He frankly wasn't a very good commander, racism aside.
The blood mage hero is op as fuck, and he was completely wasting kaelthas on busy work and then flat out sacrificing him.

How come Medivh told Jaina and Thrall to go to Kalimdor, but never bothered to mention that there was night elves there, and that they totally shouldnt invade their sacred forest and murder their demi god? He wanted them to team up to fight the Burning Legion right? Why did he just let that happen? Was he retarded?

Yeah, same reason you have the "lock Alexstraza back in the rape cage" quest from Chromie

the level designer who made the "arthas was wrong" video removed it because everyone was pointing out how retarded he is

lol

It's so funny that they pretend the quest was "necessary" for the story. Like cmon man, the story is a clusterfuck. It's pure fetishism.

They changed it so now you're ensuring the events that led to her being freed happened, instead of making sure she doesn't escape prematurely

The alliance could have exterminated the horde to the last like it deserves to be instead of the half-assed reconciliation crap that actually happens

J'Lor

You can't possible consider this, it is still raw!

He could've cleansed them if he only studied harder in paladin school.

want to imagine a fun alternate universe where all the scum orc have been purged by the alliance

then remember without the orcs/trolls, the tauren would have been pushed to extinction by the centaur

TFT builds up LK as that one being merged with a orc mind and a human body

WOTLK comes around and WoW retards didn't get the TFT story

MUH ARTHAS MUH ARTHAS MUH ARTHAS

God they raped LK lore so hard. I will never be not mad about that. They turned LK from that super cool being that plays 4D chess into some whiny faggot Arthas.

did they fucking remake the airship fight from ICC? who the fuck ever liked that trash in the first place

It's an isolated arena for a single boss fight against an elite at the end of an hourly event, not a raid or dungeon

I like the youtube guy whose shtick was only making blood mage and trolling on ladder.

The woodcutting and Cenarius was all on Grom. Thrall dindu nuffin as always.

implying wow lore matters after wotlk

I never understood this. Arthas was never evil. He did the right thing PLUS he was tricked into doing it.