Fantasy world

I'm playing through Romancing Saga 2 and it's basically the embodiment of this. Century long timeskips where the only progress is spreading around new spells/weapons you developed during the general, and one family of inventors npcs making a flying contraption and an android, while the rest of the world is still medieval.

druid is just a catch all term for "nature magic dude", unless your setting bothers to specifically make a difference between druid, shaman, witch doctor, ghost speaker, primalist or some other words that essentially refer to the same thing

Here's your future magic anon. Isn't it so cool. Now there are cars and gundams!

fantasy game

it introduces sci fi elements midway through

Wizards are rare and most people cannot become wizards
However you can arm the masses with guns for the fraction of the cost it would take to produce a single wizard
Thousands of normal people with guns can take and hold territory much more effectively than a single wizard can

So you, a not wizard have a chance at stopping those amoral monsters.

cyberpunk future

only thing future about it is the setting and jacking into computers

magic, shamans, and dragons and shit

The new shadowrunner just feels too modern for me. I want a apocalypse future with magic

What if it's a setting where wizards are in fact not rare, and being a dude who can't do magic at all is more rare instead. There would be no point in developing firearms just so 0.1% of the population can be trained in warfare.

shadowrun is a kitchen sink, it’s got everything in it

Guns can kill 70% of wizards

Warhammer fantasy ended in like the year 2500

From what i understand, the reason why tech didnt progress is basically, constant wars demanded too much effort and resources to make significant technological developments

I really enjoyed it desu

you are not a wizard

there is this class of people inherently more capable and better than you

keeping this status quo means you will always be at an disadvantage in life

you have an inherent desire to somehow close the gap for your own benefit and wellbeing

If you are a non wizard in a world full of wizards, your drive to find some way to not be bottom of the barrel trash surrounded by superhumans should be EXTRA strong

What about chicken?

they haven't discovered steam

And even then shit WAS advancing.

While the dwarfs sat on a design for hundreds of years humans were always trying to make improvements.

magic exists

gunpowder invented

magic users use magic to innately protect themselves from small arms fire the same way wearing a bulletproof vest works except the rules of our reality are thrown out because the magic rules exist now

you're gonna reply with some argument against why those rules don't apply

the rules of magic were never stated

Not realizing that the game was sci-fi all along, and you only thought it was fantasy because it takes place in a self-sustaining nacelle environment countless generations after the collapse of the intergalactic communications network and the slow failure of information technology, resulting in a populace completely unaware of the true nature of their world

Isn't war a major reason for technological developments in the first place? Tech not progressing due to war makes no sense.

Leveling the playing field.

congrats, you discovered what he refer to as "arms race"

that's only if magic can't be used to entirely negate gunpowder the same way it can for physical damage in some fantasy settings

Well if that's the case why stop at just bulletproofing?
They should make themselves swordproof, arrowproof, dragonproof, poisonproof etc. and just never die.
Are wizards retarded or something?

if the setting allows for it magic users DO do that

Dwarves had (relatively) advanced technology, but rarely made significant improvements on it due to tradition and a cultural resistance towards innovation. The Empire is probably the most advanced civilization otherwise, and went from a gaggle of fur-clad barbarians to one of the few nations capable of producing plate armor, repeating firearms, and honest-to-God steam-powered tanks in significant numbers - largely because they're one of the few on explicitly friendly terms with the dwarves. Most other civilizations in both the Old World and the New rely more on magic than anything else.

The only thing I don't really like about this is how magic and technology cause each other to fail automatically and can't interact in any other way, it's fitting conceptually, but it would be more interesting to see magic and tech interact in more nunced ways

tfw magic is just a forgotten global alexa

no gunpowder because chinks aren't fucking around for thousands of years with random ingredients finding a cure for mortality

no steam power because mages can magic up shit

no Aquinas or Renaissance because magic

struggle for power between the kings, merchants & nobility has no effect on technological development

Because the total population of non-wizards is so low, guns wouldn't become a major industry. It would be small groups of rebels or revolutionaries manufacturing these things, so you wouldn't get the scale needed to make really good guns. Unless you have sympathetic wizards helping with magic to speed things along. It's an interesting setting to think about.

also now mages are a force in play slowing down any technological or social development to protect their own power

fantasy world

hundreds of years pass

it's now modern times

What's wrong with that bingus

You also don't decide the rules anon

Think of the rest of the world if Europe never went there. It's not to farfetched.

he lives in a society

Only on the short term. As war drags on more man power and resources need to be given to the war in order to end it.

yeah that's how we got trebs and shit

Fantasy world

Hundreds of years pass

Shutterstock takes over

Isn't that what Liches are for?

Redditors will defend this

yes but your argument is saying that the limiting factors of the rule is why you would win when there has been zero evidence that there are any rules
i win because the rules are not a known variable

why

To be fair, that might have to do with their rulers spending two thousand years thinking drinking liquid mercury would make them live forever, despite two thousand years' worth of monarchs going crazy, dying, or going crazy and then dying.

You'd think, but murdering innocent people in ritual sacrifices to create a phylactery tends to attract in adventures who love throwing phylacteries into elemental vortexes and shit. It's a self-defeating plan.

Wizards are rare and most people cannot become wizards

You asked about fantasy, not low fantasy.

However you can arm the masses with guns for the fraction of the cost it would take to produce a single wizard

The single wizard that is owned by the tyrant king has cast a spell to make it rain today so please put your expensive flintlocks down and prepare to get brutally raped by the mercenary 7ft tall green men that you dared to meet on an open field because you thought

Thousands of normal people

could assemble for a fight and not get picked apart by a single wizard.

You pretend wizards are lining up and fighting people in trenches when even one wizard on a field of 50,000 combatants would be far away from the fighting casting strategy-level magic. When you reduce the amount of wizards, you aren't reducing the almighty magic-users who live in towers and weave realm-altering magic. You are reducing the amount of mediocre middle-aged magicians throwing magic tennis balls from 30ft away.

They had an advanced age in their past which ended disastrously, and had no desire to repeat it