Marvel Rivals

and solo tanking every single match. and yet there are still hordes of retards who defend not having role queue.

kill dive

game immediately goes into shit

Just like overwatch

look at all the little spidermen and venoms seething that they can't just suicide charge into the enemy team for free anymore. LMAO. very cool patch.

Iron Man, Ultron, and Storm are now basically every game in both comp and QP so you can't really do anything to them.

Peni is now one of the most infuriating things to go against if she has a healer because the two nests were the most retarded idea I have ever seen making her an absurd wall that drains 80% of your health if you get near her or her nests and guarantees a kill if she webs you in breathing distance of her nests.

Jeff's kit rework is amazing though, the dive change doesn't feel that bad at all and while it'll take some readjusting to the M2 the M1 hurting enemies and healing teammates feels great.

only debuff to Mr F was the team up cooldown

he’s useless thanks to ultron drone and three healer meta

Fuck you too netease, this shit is cancer. They “nerf” Jeff yet autists are playing him just for the easy damage and “eliminations” on his spray. Garbage all around

it's not that ultron is overpowered, it's that the rock-paper-scissors dynamic of poke-dive-brawl has been replaced with poke-poke-poke
dive and brawl are completely fucking dead

This sums it up.

No he’s so shit to the point he’ll always have an Ironman or two healers if not both

be starlord

kill fliers

It’s so fucking boring

Yes. I will keep complaining about overpowered healer bullshit until it's actually NERFED and FIXED. Now shut the FUCK UP and heal me, you HEAL BITCH FAGGOT

pick hulk

rape flyers

pick hulk

jump into fliers

evaporate

FTFY

flyers in every game

complains about peni nests

flyers

??? You're contradicting yourself.

me after 10 games of aim trainer simulator as punisher against flyers

Peni has me tweaking. I don't know why this bitch has cruised along every patch without nerfs and then she gets a broken team-up with one of the best supports in the game.

Why do I always see people saying they want to impregnate Squirrel Girl? What's that about?

Microplastics and food additives have been detrimental to the T-levels of zoomers, resulting in an unusual and unhealthy attraction to fat girls (commonly referred to as ""thicc"")

Source on the render?

What? Peni is an issue as are all the fliers. The fliers because if you play someone like The Thing or anyone who can't hit them reliably you're screwed, and Peni because if you play someone who needs to dive or get close to her you pretty much get instagibbed because now she has two, potentially three sources of mines (Depending on how the Rocket places it) all at once. They're mutually exclusive issues, I don't know why you think they can't be a problem at the same time.

I have to lock boring ass Mag and Emma every fucking game maybe Strange too, its so boring
Also the Thor change basically killed him when he was already not good. Worst season by far for playing tank for me

I'm done with the game too. Ranked matchmaking in Marvel Rivals is simply horrible. Such a waste of mental energy to even try to compete once you know it is over after the first fight of a match.
Make sure to leave a negative review on steam so people do not end getting trapped by the shitty game that it is.

TORtantic really fucked with you guys, didn't it?

I'm saying if you're complaining about flyers in every game, how is Peni a problem? If you and your team yourselves use flyers, Peni's nests are practically nonexistent.

Because Peni is typically setting up behind walls and preventing you from passing chokepoints while the mosquitoes are being attacked by other mosquitoes so they can't focus on the nest. Simple example is the Attack part 3 of Klyntar. The entryway is a nightmare to get past with Peni bugging both sides and you also having to contend with another four guys defending the nests.

Why did they buff Luna

overpowered

how about git fucking gud and learn to manage resources or focus

Vanguard has been miserable

So switch to a 3rd duelist

This is a low-T post though. High-T means you are attracted to slampig breeding material, not sticks

I knew things were gonna get bad when they nerfed Bucky's hook by increasing the cooldown to the point he's just a boring shoot man and not a fun combo mid range guy. Set the the precedent to nerf characters and make them less fun and more poke offs.

Characters and balancing are fine, it is the ranked matchmaking that is AIDS. I cannot believe people are okay with it.

Characters and balancing are fine

homogenizing playstyles is fine

Half which are divers, which can no longer be effective, great advice, retard

yeah hulk plus ultra drone seems to do pretty well in the games I've played

Homo

Le halo sword

Know nothing about his game but it looks shit and derivative

They said from the beginning they're basically going to completely overhaul the meta like every few months to fuck with people.

Nerfing the most OP character is bad

God I hate you retards

Now that support shitters can pick fliers (Ultron/Storm) if they hate getting dived and abuse the busted teamups against divers, let's just return S2.0 buffs for brawlers and divers. This current shit ain't OK bro. Also, add white Luke Cage into the game because fuck Bendis, fuck Bendis OCs, and fuck the rest of Marvel employees for not reviving Danny Rand as Ghost Fist.

play slop genre designed for literal retards

whoa why is this bad?

The only hero shooter I had any fun with at all was MechaBreak, and the chinks in charge of that ruined it with the last beta by heavily buffing health across the board, making healers and tanks absurdly strong, and everyone else much weaker.

You should only expect these genres to be fun at low ranks where you can pub stomp solo, or before the meta is figured out and every game turns into a sweat v sweat stack where everyone starts sperging out if you pick the "wrong" hero. CLASS based shooters will always be superior to hero shooters.

I haven't played this shit since the end of Season 0 when they started nerfing shit but glad to know they caved in completely to nerfcucks. Now I can uninstall this garbage for good.

You are the fucking kind of retard that killed the game, faggot. The game was at its peak when it was "When everyone is super, no one is". Now it fucking sucks and has a dying playerbase because they listened to retards like you.

Ironman was such oppressive cancer to play against thanks to his absurd beam range even without the Hulk teamup.
Now with Ultron there's double cancer every match and they can really just hunker down and make any kind of approach besides spiderman unbearable.

If you try to get close you get melted by Ironman beams and Peni mines, and on your way there you're getting sniped by Ultron, Hawkeye, and a Punisher turret working together.

I guess we had it coming, it IS a super hero game after all. It was bound to happen.

the actual issue has been and always will be the retarded state of supports where everyone has a "dump heals into my ass for 10 seconds" ult and no variety is allowed because shitting out heals is literally THE focus of the entire fucking game

you dive to kill the healers, you play around the healers, entire games revolve around which team's healers pull out their busted ults and dance around the enemy long enough to extend uptime on those ults the most efficiently, ult value is dependent on whether or not you fucked the value of a healer ult, it's to the point that Rocket got jammed even more into the square healer hole because people bitched about his ult being useless and Ultron is considered shit because he doesn't violently shart 300hp burst heals out of his robo-asshole on demand quite often enough, it keeps going and it'll never change because Luna is their asian shill waifu that keeps getting slaps on the wrist because a major game system overhaul would risk making her fucking useless

hela

tink tink

anti-healing mechanic would fix all these problems Paladins did it (rip)

when it was "When everyone is super, no one is

It was never that retard they were always trash characters and op characters

So what's stopping the game giving players a curse condition that fucks them up with damage if they get healed?

four flyer dps outside

me hiding indoors

This sucks!

trolling

Someone explain the combat chest to me.
It's a shorter, easier to complete, battlepass that works on match EXP where you don't get to keep anything unless you pay? Is that all correct or not?

posting proves my point

What did he mean by this?

fourth highest top played game on Steam

So this is the dead game I keep hearing about

they'll never introduce any kind of anti-heal because the ability to stop a support from self healing during their ult would make all the support babies shit and cry

would make all the support babies shit and cry

I mean, this. Just look what they did to dive. All the signs point to it.

I wonder if the chinks got scared from the TikTok Supportfag ''Strike'' so they arent gonna nerf sustain heal cancer like Luna, Invis and Loki.
That also puts characters like Ultron a DPS support in a spot where they have to be played in 3 Sup comp to make up for not having sustain heals
like Adam and Mantis who I do like but the devs hate Guardians for whatever reason because they keep nerfing them when their healing is the least problematic and their Ults are kind of dogshit

Paladins was literally the ideal version of this type of game, except it was made by the buggiest and most scatterbrained dev team. If it had all the same features but a more competent team behind it it would have been perfect

dive being gutted is ironically dps shitter's faults for refusing to actually peel to save their backline. supports being almost entirely healbots means they can't defend themselves as well from a dive, so they need help that many players weren't willing to give. Especially after the MMR change that made it so stat padding was better for climbing. (in a game where you can already climb with a negative winrate lmao)

To be fair to Ultron, he really should just have a continuous stream of shots rather than burst fire. I don't know why they decided to make it burst fire. It only lasts like three or four seconds.

Having a massive portion of the roster having little to no recourse against fliers was awful game design. Tanks basically can't do shit against them aside from the Hulk (sort of) and most healers aren't doing real damage to them. So you're basically counting on your DPS to handle them entirely and even some DPS like Wolverine aren't great against them.

yeah most if not all tanks not having any kind of long range option is really weird and makes playing into fliers a real pain in the dick.

it wouldn't work on Luna who gets an overshield and complete status/CC immunity during hers so maybe they would

I have no idea why Strange has anti heal inflicted on him but I do think its regularly needed at this point. The problem is just balancing it, i think a dps or tank should have it because Overwatch proved giving it to a support is a bad idea

Ana having the purple in itself wasn't a bad thing, it was her having the ONLY purple in the entire game until Junker Queen got the effect on her ult in OW2

supports being almost entirely healbots means they can't defend themselves as well from a dive

Mantis sleep

CD's right click (both of them) and Cloak's E

IW's double jump instant invisible

Jeff's self explanatory bullshit (that was nerfed)

Rocket's self explanatory bullshit (that has been nerfed)

What more do you FUCKING NEED? Holy shit.

overpowered healer bullshit

Huh? Healers are weak as fuck. Ultron can't even use his ult without being killed in a second.

Loki teleport and instant invisible

Luna ice ball (that now currently gives her armor)

none of those kill the divers, especially in the case of Rocket who just ran away man. In OW as Ana you could solo combo a diver to death if you landed a sleep, all CC requires co-ordination to actually get the pick after landing it.

This

You don't use those to kill divers. You use them to DEFEND yourself, which is what you posted earlier. Did you even read what you posted or what I greentexted you posting?

I don't know why everyone says he sucks I'm doing great as him, love how much range he has

Never played Marvel Rivals

wanted to play recently

saw mixed on steam

see OP

is this now not a good time to play anymore?

you are an insufferable pedant. the best defense against a dive is to kill them before they can get a pick during their dive, because that lets off pressure from the backline. with healthpacks all being megas and heals being so strong repelling a dive doesn't last very long unless you actually get the pick, a thing healers struggle to do, which is why they need someone to peel to help them, a thing DPS players don't like doing, hence my original point. fucking moron

You are a retard. Unironically, a fucking retard. Sleep doesn't kill anyone. Sleep got giant cd. In ow I can kill anyone as a healer. Here I can't do shit, I can't even heal myself and you still complaining about healers. To kill a spider man I need to be extremely accurate to use sleep. Like Celestial level accurate. Then I need to buff myself, land headshot AND land another shot on spidernigger on mach 3 zipping away. What he risks? Nothing. His cds are short and even if I kill him, he will be back in 10 seconds, zipnigging across the map. Mind you, entire time I'm fighting him I don't heal my team. And what about his skill floor? Well, just hit one RMB and you are set, because everything is autoaimed. Can't even hit this? Don't worry, you still got zero skill ult you get passively.
So shut your fucking nigger mouth, you fucking walking cancer.

meta gremlins overstate how bad the balance is (it is kinda bad tho for several heroes but the majority is fine), its perfectly fine and fun to play in unranked. Some characters got kicked in the nuts this mid season update but if youre fresh off the boat you wouldnt notice it.

support ults need more utility anyways, I'd much rather my mantis give cc immunity during her ult rather than the shitty healing and speed boost

aoe long lasting CC cleanse

you've now made Mantis meta and she now shuts down basically every tank ult in the game.

Peni is a fucking nuisance now

it's fine, this shit is like the chuck-e-cheese of hero shooters, people just get all worked up about balance because they think they're gods at the game because they climbed to a high rank in a game where games played matters more than actual skill in the ladder

he's an ow shitter

That explains everything. Also, you either didn't really read my post, or the post I was replying to. Same with the person I was replying to, apparently he didn't even read his own post.

maybe now it'll force people to take off angles to deal with the nests instead of everyone just brawling in mid every fight

forced to flex every game since my team instalocks 3 dps without ever looking at our own team comp/synergy

stuck playing dogshit maps

game balance completely out the window since chinese devs can't thinking longer than 2 months ahead evidently

i'm glad dive is dead though

still haven't fixed the matchmaking whatsoever, just lovely shit all around. i could put up with bad balancing if it meant placement matches, optional role q for those who want it, etc. instead my team are fighting each other before the game has even begun, how fun.

I did your post, that's why I called you a retard. Compare cooldown length of sleep and spider man cooldown and stop saying it's a defend tool. It's a defend tool only if your team reacts to things happening in your backline. Otherwise, it's a postpone of a certain death and nothing else.

I know they won't, but I really wish they would go back and give some of the existing tanks abilities to let them deal with fliers. I keep seeing people suggesting they add a tank dedicated to countering fliers but I feel like that would just be a bandaid fix to the actual problem and I think that character would just get banned anyway.

Heals are agonizingly slow even if you can set it and forget it and are undone if a stray bullet even grazes the person being healed. It seriously feels like you're barely healing anything and in the heat of battle it doesn't feel like what you do matters from setting the drone.

M2 feels like it barely does anything for the team and is more for you to survive in the sky.

The majority of the damage comes at the final second of the laser so if you miss that it's a huge damage loss.

Only 6 shots before you reload which feels like it's two too short.

Ult makes you a sitting duck and since it's a burst fire you have several moments where it's doing nothing.

The splash on the ult is basically touching shoulders to whatever you are hitting.

If you want to heal with the ult it's okay and can take a tank from 0 to full in a volley, but if you want to attack with it it feels like it tickles the enemies.

He's like Mr. Fantastic where he's not really what his kit says he is. He's a DPS that has minor support capabilities while Reed is a tank that has minor DPS capabilities.
I actually think he just needs the laser to do a teensy bit more damage, the shot to do a bit less, the bonus health to be like 75 but with immediate falloff as soon as it's cast, and the ult to not have any sort of pauses in between using it. The piercing laser seems fine but I would argue the laser healing at all should be a base kit thing, make it wider, piercing, and higher damage be the buff to it.

Just play in QP. Occasionally you'll get sweats or a match that is a complete steamroll but it's fairly chill. There's obviously going to be some balance issues here and there but that's the case for anything, and if it's super egregious they usually address it immediately. The main issue is with the matchmaking because I definitely should not be paired up with some of the people I am regularly placed against and the entire enemy team going 25-40/2 is constant.

umm aschtually you didn't say kill you just said defend, I'm not actually going to argue against what you're actually saying because I can just nitpick your exact word choice instead

you are a homosexual who is afraid of real discussion and that is why you replied to the guy who overtly referenced OW and not me, despite me calling all healthpacks megas, an OW term. you know nothing but the craving of human interaction

Venom, Strange (especially after this season buff), Magneto and Emma can kill fliers on all maps, except Krakoa. Good Hulk can too.

supports should be able to pick off people without help

holy shit you support babies are pathetic. You need the game to give you everything or you throw a fit. Are you also one of those retards that complain about teammates not being in the line of sight despite having wallhacks and the game telling you who to heal?

Venom can't touch fliers at the ceiling. Emma had the same range has him pre patch so she couldn't either but maybe she can now, I haven't tested.

says to stop saying it's a defend tool

says it's a defend tool in the next sentence

Christ.

Sex with Peni

Can you hold more than one sentence in your tiny brain?

two supports should be able to kill at least one diver, yeah. either that or they should be able to solo one if their skill shot is hard enough to land. high skill plays deserve higher reward, no? I'd happily give up every healer having a infinite heal stall ult in exchange for better offensive ability and utility. In fact this is exactly why I don't play support in MR despite playing loads of support in OW1 and 2, because all the supports are basically shoehorned into the singular playstyle of healbotting for ult so you can stall points or counter offensive ults

They should've gave Ultron an anti-heal or something. What a completely useless hero

domination maps have definitely been a lot more miserable now because they allow the skyboxes to be that fuckin high

Pedophile

To be fair its not their job, what the fuck is a Black Panther or Psylocke and what not gonna do for peel? That is what Reed, Bucky, Namor etc characters the devs mentioned are for
Dive is supposed to Dive in, they cant babysit supports

I think he'll be fine in triple heal setups. Bot is decent enough for topping someone on an off angle or on rush comps where people are deathballing so you can farm ult asap. otherwise his damage is pretty decent and his movement is pretty good too. problem is that MR players are so conditioned to only think healbots with nobody dies buttons are worth a shit, outside of Adam and the guardians comp in higher ELOs.

imagine getting upset about meta in a freemium game. playing it is pathetic enough but getting torn up like op? fuck id end it

if you're running triple support then there is a better triple support to run like mantis or adam.

At least OW had a few good years. Rivals died in 6 months.

the people that are okay with it are the ones that score the eomm jackpot from abusing the system
why you think everyones makin fuckin smurfs and playin only when they feel a win streak comin and quittin when they are on a 2 loss streak?

shits just a grind and doesn't represent skill at all so even if you were to "matchmake" with your rank, the chances of it being even are still fucked beyond belief

So I figured something out with the match making apparently they use a system called EOMM (Engagement Optimized Match Making) where its not skill based but playtime based where the matchmaking will let you win one or two matches and then purposely put you against matches where you lose so that you can chase the high of win or some shit. An algorithm is used and its probably pairing you up with people based on their playtime but this all contributed for a lot people to a dopamine addiction of winning in the game. You can see more about this on the top negative review as they are very verbose on this topic as it has a mixed review score on steam and I wanted to know I wasn't getting to a shitty ass unbalanced game like Overwatch again.

wow imagine wanting the game you play to be good lol what a fucking loser like lmao imagine actually caring about it lol holy shit lol just put up with garbage lmaoooooo

You need to be a good dps player to land his shots. But if you are a good dps player, why would you pick him over a dps?

I'm not saying dive heroes should hang back, I'm saying no DPS players at all like babysitting the backline and waiting for the dive. Doesn't help that anti-dive damage dealers are few and far between, with the only really strong ones being Namor and Bucky.

you get daily exp limits which is like 5 levels a day and hteres free shit in it but you pay the $7 to unlock the premium shit like the skins(other than reeds)

theres like 20 levels or so to it.

Thor is so cooked this season I legit dont want to play anymore, nerfed for no reason
I could play Magneto but i dont want to struggle to not fall asleep

reread the post you are quoting. it applies 10x more now.

depends on the comp, Adam is better if you're running Starlord/Mantis, and she's is better if you're running like, Hela/Widow/Hawkeye and that damage boost will help get long range picks easier. but I think Ultron will be good for rush comps because his ult is pretty good and he can farm meter pretty fast provided your bot is getting aoe heals. Tony teamup also helps his heals. bot should give a move speed boost too though, to help cart in rush comps easier

Nigger the main mistake overwatch made was not changing the balance for months, what difference does it make what the meta is now if it changes in a month? in rivals it always changes

i love being solo tank and not being to hit the three little shits flying above you!

TF2 was freemium and that got taken care of in terms of balancing up until 7 years ago and thats why it has a daily player count of 48,000 for a game relased in 2007

his shots aren't very hard to land. the beam is big and tracking with it is pretty easy. Mantis headshots are way harder to land

indeed

I disagree. I got average of 17% hs on mantis. I got average of 20% total accuracy on Ultron.

could just be me being used to beams because I played Sym/Zarya a bunch in OW and Emma for basically all of the start of this season, might be a sensitivity issue though.

Tanks in the game need a lot of buffs. Not in damage, but in control. None of them feel like they control a battlefield, which us the whole point of a tank. And fliers are becoming cancer because tanks can't do shit to control them.

prob with magneto is he feels way too fuckin passive and feels like an observer.
something about his animations, cooldowns and impact sounds just make you not get the dopamine compared to lasering people with emma

dont know why they nerfed his fuckin shield wall before. it doesn't feel right to use at all.

Magneto is straight up shit since they nerfed his shield wall ages ago.

Snipers aren't "poke", they are "delete from a distance"

yeah he feels like hes made out of paper compared to others
goes double with his movespeed

then you got emma who just made him even more boring in comparison

now i cant even play thing.

what? he can still kill healers mid ult, he can still block loads of shit and can bubble his backline to save them without peeling to give up space. He's a poke tank, play corners man.

She's an industry plant and you WILL love her

she can keep the damage just nerf the duration or heals on her ult so there's more counterplay than the like 3 ults that can actually kill her during it PLEASE NETEASE

Hes really bland compared to everyone else there is nothing about his kit that makes me feel like I'm truly playing Ultron
this moveset could easily be Iron man if he was support. He should've had anti heal cause it fits the character that he would have something organic/life damaging plus gives more of a reason to pick him
and maybe his drones shouldve been Ultron bots that work like healing pylons with him placing them wherever or to follow a teammate with the option to swap to them only if he dies and one is active because I dislike how they just show up for his ult and Ultron swapping his consciousness to a new body is what he does
The fact its not in his kit at all is crazy

there is nothing about his kit that makes me feel like I'm truly playing Ultron

The fact that the made a robot born from hatred with a goal to end all organic life and THEY MADE THAT A SUPPORT wasn't proof enough?

Wait...really ?LOL LMAO EVEN

I stopped playing Rivals months before they added him, NTA

Reed is a tank that has minor DPS capabilities.

Reed shits out damage if you know what you're doing.

He should've been DPS but Support could work if they made it interesting and they didn't, the passive healing is so secondary I don't know why they bothered

Ultron's real value is that he's great at killing other fliers

It's a fucking 3m radius impact grenade. If you can't land that you're crippled. You could throw it at your feet in front of you and hit people behind you with it.

It's actually insane how useless Ultrons ultimate is, you pop your ult and all you can do is heal as good as any other support in base form while also being a huge sitting duck.

storm should get another teamup with ben that makes her tornado shoot out rocks that knockdown enemies hit and have it be combinable with johnny and jeff's combo with storm

If you can upkeep the inflated state, yeah, he's crazy with dishing out damage, but the point is that he's mainly doing the tank role with the E, the reflect, and the constant inflation while the DPS side is a suggestion for the use case.

Steam's dead grandpa Epic won

To be fair, do we really need another invincible and pause fighting for 30 seconds healer ultimate? Ultron's ultimate is fine. I can see why they didnt make it stupidly broken.

he's not bad but it just sucks to play as him

what went wrong?

Sure, buddy. Hit it on spidey, I'll see.

vanguard

rape flyers

???

i've got 2000hrs+ in ow and i tried MR at the start of its popularity.

from the very start it looked like a game with a ton of issues that people were willing to overlook because it felt like overwatch but fresh, or because they happen to care about the comic characters and i always saw that it's going to drop off eventually because to have your game stand the test of time means having it adopted by either a new audience like fortnite that attracted minecraft kiddies, or have the game be better than the game it steals the audience from ie. overwatch and you can't do that with a janky UE4 game with hyper casualized design that doesn't attract the rank ladder grinding masses that exhibit "super fan" behavior like trying to get their vods reviewed so they can get better at the game and esports fans. poor balancing. uninteresting hero kits. poor level design. none of these issues are apparent to the hypercasuals you need but they are those little things they can't put their finger on that just make the game feel "mid" and when they start to crop up the decision to keep playing to get your new battlepass rewards or go play the new hotness called fortnite season 3525 becomes harder and harder until the only people left are those same people ow1 had left at the end of its life cycle - jaded superfans

because luna creator is an executive working on rivals.

iron man is now the most cancerous out of the bunch because of a pocket ultron
good fuckin game retarded chinks

LMB damage of Ultron heals teammates around target, not burst fire, no reload, medium range

E is a rapid heal on cd with no range restriction

RMB is a counter, if successful applies HoT to Ultron and everyone around him

Here, your dps healer

His inflated form isn't even that good, slightly increased damage in exchange for less range and a fuckhuge hurtbox. The lingering hitbox on his normal attacks let him attack multiple people at once per single attack if you whip it around fast enough.

they added hero bans as the gimmick to a game where there are no hard counters

ow2 added it as a kneejerk response

2 games ruined by some retarded dev just going "wouldn't it be cool to copy MOBA ban systems when those systems have no relevance in our game?"

Ultron's kit is so simple and yet less effective than the other healers. He has no burst heal and his shield isnt really that effective. Also his ultimate just heals as much as other healers. On paper there's no real reason to pick him other than to be the 3rd dps healer.

eomm

youtube.com/shorts/601zjoIn0DY

This retard doesn't even have spidey on screen when he sleeps him. If you can't hit a fucking giant aoe impact stun you are bad at video games.

It heals and damage, like Moira's from Overwatch.

But unlike Moira he doesn't heal himself.

probably the fact that it's past midnight

I'm not talking about ult, you fucking retard. Snap him while he is targeting you zipping from half a map.

flyers deal more damage, Have more health, more mobility than every melee character

These Chinks have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

He's a fucking melee character who has to touch you to do damage. He puts a giant symbol over your head that says he's about to go into melee distance. He gives you so much time and visual/audio warning that he's about to go in. Literal webs will stick to you as he comes in for the pull or zip. Throw the fucking sleep at your feet.

And all those melee characters got nerfed. And you still have retarded strategists bitching about them non stop.

It works on paper. It doesn't work in game. You have one chance against an enemy who have their entire time to zipnig to you during tracker time, which they can keep indefinitely on you. EVEN if you slept him, then you need to kill him. EVEN if you killed him, he will be back in 20 seconds. He risks nothing and requires no skill, while I need to have godlike aim. It's incomparable.

I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely apologize to every diver main in this thread.

Between Iron man suit sound, and ultron, storm, and Johnny's primary attack.it really be sounding like I'm at an airport when wearing a headphone.

no one cares about you apologizing to yourself

Marvel rivals

no hard counters

You playing Groot into Wolverine and Spiderman into Namor? Wolverine into Emma? Fliers into Hela? Loki into Bucky?

The game is far better now than in the previous season

I’ll miss Symbiote Bond, VenomGAWDS. It was fun seeing a random Spider-Man go full dive with me.

Thematically they should have a teamup but balance wise it shouldn't give spiderman an instant death combo

problem with flyers is that most DPS cant aim. So they will be dominant and terrorize most games.

uh oh, DPStardbros don't look

Enjoy your 5 minute queues, unemployed faggot

Naw problem is that just like divers and anti-divers, there are more fliers than good long range hitscan heroes. You've got Punisher and Hela and that's basically it. Ban hela and that's the biggest anti-flier character in the game dead, just like how a Namor ban opened up so much dive potential.

Because it hits from anywhere in the map, retard. It has no range falloff or damage falloff

What the fuck is this face intended to convey? Why can't japs into decent human emoting?

It's day 1 QP with a reworked hero and a new hero. Relax, if you aren't having fun playing tank, don't play it. Won plenty of games that were fliers and heals mirror matches

5min queue

wont be a problem for tanks and healers. and if the queue lasts for 1 minute, the game puts 6 dps vs 6 dps to prevent long queue times, easy.

it does have damage falloff

Look up how Overwatch died, retard. Matter of fact, go fucking play that.

look at yznsa from overwatch. he plays all the heros that have super obvious counters yet he's still got 10 accounts in top 10 every season.

no, hard counters don't exist and it's just bad player+idiot fanbase cope.

Naw role queue sucks shit. So much so that even OW walked that back and brought back 6v6 open queue.

Jesus Christ this place really is filled with nothing but children.

brought back 6v6 open queue

open queue was always there, but nobody plays it because it's shit

Oh yeah well one of the best players in the entire game can beat people who play his counters

That's nice anon.

Not 6v6, it was 5v5 before 6v6 came back. And of course no one played 5v5 open queue because 5v5 is very much designed around the 1/2/2 format, so why not just play that? 6v6 open queue is the only reason I'm even playing OW again, and MR's 6v6 open queue format was the only reason I played it over OW2.

Oh yeah well one of the best players in the entire game can beat people who play his counters

he's playing against other top 50 players. if hard countering was a thing then why is he consistently beating everyone who tries to counter him

its almost as if there are no hard counters in a casual hero shooter because its not a MOBA where your stats scale up and you can create some insane busted combos in the right meta

I really do not understand why they need to pick those two every game. It would be one thing to have Ultron's dogshit healing but to have Jeff's that have no idea how to play him after his rework on your team as well is far too cruel.

actually these 50 people can play around their counters therefore hard counters do not exist

You're the kind of moron that doesn't understand different levels of play playing different games from each other. Go worship your top players elsewhere while I talk about the game that most people are actually playing

whats top 500 cutoff in 6v6? i doubt its much higher than diamond like it was in 5v5 open queue. those extra modes are just never that popular but maybe im wrong.

The 10 HP per second from the payload was enough to cancel it. With the team up he was b tier or viable.

so you are saying to good players hard counters don't exist

so why did you try to claim hard counters actually exist?

Marvel rivals

no hard counters

?

because hard counters do exist, the same as them existing in overwatch. it is however, possible to play around those counters to a certain extent, it's just hard to do. now go away

Ultron is fun but we're really getting into some of the games structural problems now
Way too counter or matchup heavy but now its worse. Enemy playing flight? Have fun not being able to play any of your mains unless you like hela and friends or fly yourself.
And tough shit vanguards since you have shit range

Keep moving the goalpost retard. You said hard counters don't exist after I told you how having hero bans in a game with no hard counters is retarded.

cutoff is higher in 6v6 actually at Masters 3, while 5v5 seems to be diamond 5

He is currently a good guy trying to save the planet and is on the Avengers in the comics.

+jeff rework
+spiderman nerf
-flying faggots everywhere
-stuck with Mag/Hela/Luna has the response
-quick play matches are ass
-rocket still overtuned
How do -we- feel about it?

Noje of the healers in game can heal in the comics. Dagger fucking throws light knives at people and Cloak chucks motherfuckers into a dimension of madness and fear. Invisible Woman makes hard light constructs. Mantis is an empath. Adam is a fucking black mage.

what the fuck are you talking about? you said having hero bans in MR is retarded because there are no hard counters, then I mocked that idea and listed multiple hard counters. You ESL or just extremely stupid?

Correction:Adam is a Warlock

oh actually I checked again, seems like the combined role gives a bizarre reading, tank also cuts off at masters 3. DPS is masters 2, and support is barely just masters 1, with the bottom 3 being masters 2. so pretty even overall.

They probably have something of an equivalent to RCT in JJK.

its just the changes for the latest season. you havent caught on yet that these games change the meta season to season, to keep players engaged? whether or not its enjoyable is not the point

what the fuck are you talking about?

you claiming there are hard counters, then backpedaling and trying to move the goalpost instead of shutting the fuck up and trying to move the goalpost after getting btfo

I mocked that idea and listed multiple hard counters

you said hela hard counters flyers despite this character having 80% dmg falloff at 30m, but clearly again what you actually meant to say was hela hard counters bronze retards that hover 10m in front of hela ignoring her standing still and letting the hela kill them because no player playing a hero can have the awareness or know what it takes to not be "hard countered" by someone who has 80% dmg falloff at max falloff range.

But I want to main scarlet witch. Her ult is suicide button and her damage is shit.

hela doesn't counter fliers

extremely stupid it is. thanks for clearing that up!

yeah her damage is really only decent if you have the strange teamup. at least now with his rebuffed E he might see more play so you'll get more chances to play with it

keeps moving the goalpost

you claimed hela hard counters fliers. this was your own statement.

"HARD" counters, do you know what this means retard?

you're right anon the best hitscan character in the game doesn't counter fliers because as we all know, all fliers always hover at max range because they themselves have no fall off right? Ironman right click? who needs it? Storm Auras? no thanks! Johnny's slam? never heard of it! they all fly at max range across the map and throw projectiles all game and that's it. you're very smart, I'm so defeated and embarrassed I have no choice but to kill myself out of dishonor! the shame of it all

But I want

thats not how these games work anon

It falls off TO 80%. That's why she's Anti-air while Adam to 60% is not as good.

you keep trying to change the wording of your original statement from "hard counter" to "counter" because you realized your mistake and started trying to move the goalpost and now you're talking about something completely irrelevant. is hela also hard countered by dr strange because he has a shield for her ult? does every shield character hard counter hela? are you a brown teenager?

oh you're the same pedant that is here not because they actually play the game or want to discuss it and it's balance, but because they crave attention from people and can only find it by nitpicking singular words and getting people to call you a stupid faggot for it. sad

also yes shield heroes are counters to poke heroes. a good way to fight against alot of poke damage is to run strange/magneto and to cycle shields. though I imagine the concept of cycling shields is wholly foreign to you considering you think fliers are only ever played as far as possible at all times

and, are you going to explain how hela "hard counters" flyers or are you going to start moving the goalpost as well?

pedant

you tried to claim a character that requires line of sight automatically hard counters any character that flies. your arbitrary explanation was that it's because "eh they fly, i guess" so by that logic i guess every shield hard counters hela because "eh i guess she can't do dmg out of line of sight she's useless now". i can't know how retards like you think so maybe you can help me out. do shields "hard counter" hela as well for you?

aight, so never pick hela to any shield tank, gotcha.

what is your peak rank on hela if you dont mind me asking?

oh man i can't believe i'm being hard countered by this pesky lone hitscan character because i can't facetank the enemy team as ironman+storm and right click+aura them. oh wait what if i use LoS and what if i ask for heals while i dive them, nah im hard countered bro

breaking line of sight and diving at the same time as a flyer is pretty impressive.

no you don't get it i can't think adaptively, if i can't facetank the enemy team as ironman because i died somehow then i'm hard countered because i can't hover in place and right click the tank. hela just hard counters me i don't know what else to say man i'm silver these players are just too good.

half of both teams are indoors fighting it out

it's total chaos

flyers are trying to get their primary through the door without getting too close

This is stupid

You wish you were silver, if anything fliers are stronger in that rank against Hela because players there can't aim

yeah hela is only good against flyers i forgot how you shitters operate. and in particular ironman holding right click.

You can't actually argue the words being said so you have to invent statements to rebutt. At no point has anyone here said Hela is only good against fliers. You also completely ignored the guy who pointed out how damage fall off for hela works, and how fliers have incentives to play within her 100% range to instead hyperfocus on the totally normal statement of "shields against poke is good". I pity you, and your inability to discuss anything without being a hyperbolic attention seeker.

HIS ONESHOT COMBO WITH VENOM IS LITERALLY GONE
YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE SECOND TO HIT HIM WITH THAT FAT ASS PROJECTILE BEFORE HE OVERHEADS YOU

Don't worry about him, he's the same guy that wants to be able to kill as support 1v1, and says they don't have any defenses against dive when they clearly do. He won't listen.

You should try overwatch some time, you'd be amazed by supports that can actually defend themselves very effectively while providing utility and having unique ults instead of different flavors of "nobody can die for the next 10 or so seconds"

HIS ONESHOT COMBO WITH VENOM IS LITERALLY GONE

So? He just punch you after autoaim combo and that's it. if he is good, he will insert web before uppercut, good luck surviving this.

YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE SECOND TO HIT HIM WITH THAT FAT ASS PROJECTILE BEFORE HE OVERHEADS YOU

No you don't. You don't know when he zipnigs in. You can't be focused on him all the time. That's why spidernigger is banned all the time. He wraps his game around him. Again, playing against him requires 10x times more skill than playing as him. Give me sleep with cd like his zipnig and then we'll talk.

you are a retard yourself for falling for this overwatch clone. didnt even last long enough for the porn either.

Probably why it's fucking dead.

Dive was so overrated with people acting like they were fighting top 500 eatsports streamers every game

his fastest combo after right click pull uppercut is

failweb upwards to animation cancel

right click

left click

which is completely reactable and requires mechanical execution on par with tight fighting game combos

HE WARPS THE GAME AROUND HIM YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT HIM WAAAH

so does taking cover against a hela or hawkeye looking to put a new hole in your head reard

Is this the part where we pretend Marvel Rivals hasn't leaked nearly 75% of its playerbase?

so does taking cover

Nope. Entire gameflow changes when there is a spidernigger. Eat shit, onetrick faggot, I will ban you every game.

It was just annoying to deal with because anti-dive heroes that were good were few and far between, and shitters unwillingly to peel because they wanted to stat pad instead. Doesn't help that both Namor and Bucky were also really good flankers who could burst enemy squishes down pretty fast, so more selfish DPS players would be doing that instead of waiting to shit on a spiderman or BP.

are you retarded?
the gameflow changes depending on the heroes played
if they're running spideypanther of course you'd huddle next to your tanks compared to a punishertorch dps line
spidey with no venom or other 2nd dive is literally just an annoying gnat MEANT to distract you
why the hell do you want to just healbot the entire game

Don't care, Super Mecha Champions died so that Marvel Rivals could use their servers. I hope Marvel Rivals continues to die.

visible pilots

six months

It was dead for any normal human from the start. Game's dogshit design revolves only around running as a blob against the other team's blob. There is no personal skill involved, there is no actual teamwork. Just which "team" can spam their gay abilities more.

the gameflow changes depending on the heroes played

Only spider warps entire game around him. Other characters bring nuances to the game. Spider changes it.