Dark Heresy

Owlkek said full Voice Acting will not reduce the quantity of text Owlkek usually has. The game is just slightly shorter, but has more qonsequences and reactivity.
How much of this claim do you think will hold up and how much is PR bullshit?

I imagine the entire game will be on a more condensed level like RT opening. Which might actually benefit Owlcat because they're way too verbose.

They probably have a bigger budget now so I believe it.

Owlcat would never lie to me

Which might actually benefit Owlcat because they're way too verbose.

I don't mind a lot of text. Problem is their writing is just not that good.

I can't really be arsed to listen to a full games worth of voiced dialogue,I end up skip reading it half way through anyway

better than larian

Starrok said, Owlkek has a higher budget overall for this game so VA isn't gonna siphon away quantity and quality. I believe it because WOTR and RT sold well and they are publishing now.
I hope this doesn't effect DLC tho, since with each companion they add they are gonna hvae to add a ton of voiced dialogue now covering interactions for both base game and each mounting DLC.

Is Owlcat evil enough to use AI for this?

New companion leaked, an Eldar female. Might be interesting.

It's such a waste of money. RPGs figured out a long time ago how to use VA correctly - voice important story bits and just enough character barks to get their personality across.

Thats not a high bar.

I think it has improved a lot. RT's writing was actually pretty decent.
I don't mind it. But I am slightly worried that it will fall short.

left most?

That's /ourgirl/
She's a harlequin now

source?

He's just making shit up. She's a deldar.

Retard he just shopped a picture of yrliet into the cover image
It's still true that the remaining eldar, if there is one, will be a Harlequin and female, by process of elimination.
Not Yrliwhore though

Complete bullshit as always, prepare for a casualised disaster.

deldar eh? I don't like the concept art if that is the case. Their very appearance is supposed to be wicked and evil.

That's not concept art, that's just Lelith Hesperax (deldar slag)

because they're way too verbose.

t. My brains is rotted by Tiktok

What is it with the amount of shilling for Owlcat games? these games are not even popular and they get shill threads 24/7 here.

I'm talking about the one in . Also lelith is ynnari now.

Look at the waffle in pic related. Could have been condensed so much, improving its effect

Yet even so the spirits hear the whispers of your blood. Perhaps you warrant greater attention.

>SOME PC CHOICE

So you are the heir of Von Valancius. The worm Voigtvir failed to deliver her warrant to me... because of you.

Could it be that you wish to gain my favor instead? Will you bring me the false god's relic and serve the Truth?

>SOME PC CHOICE

The blind call it the Archenemy, yet you feel its call in your very blood. What persist in such futile defiance?

It's not concept art. It's just the base model.

Why can't you read more than one sentence, at a time? Is your attention span really that low?

Those don't look like models aside from being grey. They're art.

RT is launching a new dlc in a few weeks, and one of their upcoming games just got announced. Not that hard to figure out why they are getting more threads lately.

lmao since when did owlcat models looked that good, retard.

How much of this claim do you think will hold up and how much is PR bullshit?

If you're familiar with owlturd games, or any vidya at all, you will know that none of it is true, and is 100% just marketing lies

You are right, it is concept art. But it is concept art of the models.
You can't tell if her appearance is going to be "wicked" and "evil" when not a single detail has been added yet.

It's not that. It's the verbal diarrhea. Condense it all into a single paragraph, my point wasn't the "PC Choice" bits
Look
It's the same meaning, without repetition.

Because it fits his character to prattle on like someone that loves the sound of his own voice.
Dialogue in rpg's should also reflect the personalities of the character that are talking.

Are you guys ready to be "informed" and "educated" by Eppy, the super smart niggress doctor?

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She's effectively a crime scene investigator and performs autopsies and will provide extra information in those contexts, so yes, absolutely.
The Catachan probably isn't worth much in investigation apart from random hunches and maybe tracking, he's there as muscle
Ogryn isn't doing anything except hitting/shooting things and having one weird moment of brilliance.
Eldar will be full of cryptic Eldar bullshit like always but at least can help on the psychic side.
Kroot is a tracker and can gain memories from eating dead flesh so that'll help too, although she might not want to eat too much Chaos-tainted stuff.

Im sure she will make an excellent filler NPC on the Captain's hull.

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Assuming you can't kill her, she will just be a bench warmer, just like all the other owlcat ape companions.

The villainous Word Bearer is pompous and verbose

Damn that's crazy

Drops the line about Konrad losing his favour, missing out on how arrogant and merciless he is even to his supposed allies, which is classic Chaos

Replaces YOUR false god with THE false god, missing the dig he makes because he can't help but hate you even as he tries to bring you to his side

The clunk of call and call in the last line

Granted I know you aren't a writer but maybe there are reasons why it's as short as it is, even if it's as long as it is
Also, isn't that scene with Uralon is crowbarring his way into your brain on Kiava Gamma? If there's ever going to be a point where he can prattle while you can't get a word in, it's going to be then, not just because he knows it hurts you, and not just because it's a stage for him to be a pompous arrogant asshole on, ultimately it's to make it sweeter when you make that -15 Willpower role at the end to tell him to shut the fuck up

Yes. Any more retarded questions?

Browns on Anon Babble sperg out over brown character

From a game that's probably over a year away from being released

Game gets released and everything they're crying about doesn't exist

Tale as old as time.

She's a medical professional so not bringing her along would be silly
Which I imagine was a deliberate choice

It did happen with Seelah and Idira.

Idira was great thougheverbeit. Especially on Heretical route perilsmaxxing is really fun.

what's with these dumbfucks who are so racist that they are downright retarded? Just replace the portrait and in-game model with a mod. It's not like the characters speak like they are from the hood or anything.

How lame. She definitely won't be feminine at all, but I wonder how girl bossy she will be and how few character flaws she will have.

There are no feminine women in Warhammer

Anon Babble is full of teenage drama trannies who just want something to bitch about

Cassia?

fights

Not feminine.

Until you get to that one fight were you instantly lose if you use warp magic lol. I had to replay the entire level with a different party

Idc if she is a nigger, it's fine in 40K, were nogs in it to begin with. I just hope she is a well written character and not an annoying "Muh Basedence" retard like Nenio. Make her a cold investigator that doesn't try to sound smart, a combo of Heinrix and Pasqal and it will be fine.

Idira does speak with a very obvious black accent but that might not be noticeable to non-Brits
Of course she's not full on ebonics but I don't think I've ever actually seen anyone in these threads complain about bix nood
She's definitely one of the tamest black characters I've seen Anon Babble get mad over

only seen their rogue trader writing and it seemed decent.

He's talking out of his ass, we don't know will there be a female Eldar. But if there is she will most likely be a harlequin, since Nocturne was hinted to return.

Opens her third eye twice

Everyone is dead and/or on fire

I wouldn't exactly call what she does fighting

nah man I would need another example.
that is the perfect guy to NOT shut the fuck up.

If she was feminine she'd be raising children at home, not at the front lines.

that one fight were you instantly lose if you use warp magic

Which one is this?

black female with a robot arm

At least they got all the DEI woke checkmarks with one character so it's easier to mod out

You're letting your retarded political beliefs come into fantasy video games. You're no better than the AAA troon devs.

What is feminine about fighting battles, especially choosing to go fight at the front?

Uralon. I think he gains extra turns when you cast a spell or something like that

You don't even play the game. Even if you bring her in your active party, she's in the back. She can't tank damage well if at all and has lines calling for the pc aid to save her.

Some of the fags here just wanna complain for the sake of complaining or shitposting for (You)s
I'm racist, but I don't freak out over every nigger in media.
Idira is a good character, my complaint about her is her final quest resolution. There should have been more options, it's either soul rape device or just her eventually imploding. In fact a lot of characters have problems in act 4 quest resolutions, but it's weird that some options for her are voiced like Yrliet saying Eldar can help, and we have 2 farseers that we've done huge favors for, it wouldn't be unrealistic to go to Janus and ask the two guys to help. It would have brought more utility to siding with Crudarach dudes.

she's 60 feet away from the enemy instead of 20 feet!

That's still choosing to fight on the front lines of a battle, anon. No feminine woman does that.

Nigger you're just fishing for (you)s at this point. Go be miserable somewhere else you faggot.

Skill issue
I have at least one psyker with me whenever I do the fight and never have an issue

You're not playing on unfair.

it's nice that you're so naive

Unpopular opinion:
If Owlcat does Season 3, I hope they don't add companions and just have the DLCs expand several existing narratives, have one give content for other 2 Rogue Traders and another give a proper resolution to Crudarach Aeldari plot.
I know a lot of people just want more waifus in DLCs, but I hobestly think Owlcat should put prioroty into updating unfinished shit.

That's not even unpopular. I'm praying they do that shit.

They are doing this so streamers will play the game

culture warrior seethes with impotent anger because a nigger exists

If only your peanut brain could actually comprehend the fact that all the previous owlkek niggers were good characters with flaws and problems of their own, so there is no reason to assume this one wouldn't. Continue malding and clutching your pearls though. Your clearly enjoy acting like a retard

Owlcat

Quality of text

?????? Is this some Anon Babble inside joke?

Unironically skill issue lmao. I have Idira and Jimmy with me 24/7 casting spells

Idira and Ekun were and the black minor characters like Jocasta or Chartists leader
Seelah and Sosiel were annoying

Unpopular opinion

That's a popular opinion. Owlturds are a bunch of retard that can't into quality and thinking, so they just swing from one extreme (shit pointless side adventures nobody cares about) to another (filling every dlc with companions while the existing ones barely have any content at all)

Seelah and Sosiel were annoying

They tried, but there's only so much a person can do to fix pozzo's shit """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""writing"""""""""""""""""""""""""
Besides, the fact that someone is annoying doesn't make them a bad character. Try again.
And sosiel didn't have enough of a presence to be annoying. Nigga barely existed. Every time I was running around drezen checking on my companions for new dialogue I forgot to check up on him

That's unrealistic though.

look up dark heresy's companion page

the ogryn's just a generic description of every single ogryn

they did him dirty

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position of leadership isnt feminine

But I thought princesses were the height of femininity?
I thought we were built to rescue maidens?

I hate these gimmick companions whose only personality is their race

That's the best part, faggot. Are you disappointed that you didn't get an LGBTQBRAAP ogryn with psychic abilities and 150 IQ quip making capabilities?

post owlcat's goty

Well, he will have a personal quest 100%, they probably just don't want to spoil it

Warhammer 40K RPG

You play as a generic human

AGAIN

Holy fuck owlcat is so creatively bankrupt it's insane. No wonder these hacks only make third-rate garbage focused on statcrunch and not story/character development.

Most people want that. And humans are the main part of 40k by far.

You can thank retards screeching "wher da ogryn companion at" for that

The Scintillian Fusiliers are French, more specifically how the British (GW) portray the French, so he will likely have backstreet with that.

Backstory*

I have faith that he'll be best boy

40K newfags have such shit taste it's insane. Generic Imperiumautismus fatigue is real.

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I think it means we'll get one finished act instead of two like last time

Raszard has been making art of Inquisition acolyte x Drukhari girl for months before Dark Heresy announcement...do you think he might have known, due to being in talks with Owlkeks or if not might they indulge their game's biggest propagandaist and add her?

posts dow

calls others nufags

lmao

newfags

I'm not. I've wanted a 40k Inquisition crpg in every thread asking "what's your dream 40k game." The Inquisition as an organization is even more human centric than rogue trader. Dark Heresy is the most famous rpg system for 40k, and the core rulebook is exclusively human player character oriented too. Not only that, but owlcat ran polls on what rpg should be next and Dark Heresy won by a longshot.

What's a crpg that gave you a 1 race player character option that wasn't human???

Can I just enjoy a 40k thread without that fags name and shit art thrown all over the place?

The Inquisition as an organization is even more human centric than rogue trader.

There's more xenos in the Inquisition than there are Rogue Traders that exist.

Macha was a nice lady

It's still much more common for a Rogue Traders to incorporate xenos into their retinue. Just comes with the territory of explorer. Sure some Inquisitors incorporate a ton of xenos, but there are those in the Inquisition who would hunt them for doing so too. Whereas other Rogue Traders would not care at all who's company another Rogue Trader takes.

she's isn't even worth a single ass hair of general Sturnn and she left him to die.

Oh cool so we get to play as Inquisitor Luke Evans?

No, that's Taldeer

You are buck broken by Larian

Nah, this is perfectly fine. No point in condescending it further.

Taldeer did nothing wrong

Sure some Inquisitors incorporate a ton of xenos, but there are those in the Inquisition who would hunt them for doing so too

My favorite Inquisitors.

Inquisitor shows up to a massive Inquisitorial Summit with over two dozen Kroot bodyguards. A Puritan attacks him for it only to be killed in turn. Then an all out brawl and shootout erupts when the Kroot attempt to eat the Puritan's corpse. The Inquisitor escapes only wounded, with most of his Kroot retinue still alongside him.

Eldrad has a personal chamber on a secret, high-security Inquisitorial fortress. He can issue orders from it which even the Deathwatch will follow.

Scribe Kile Simlex is caught in the midst of an Eldar 'assault' against an Imperial reclamation fleet while it wars against a dissident planet, with the Eldar fueling the Rebellion itself. He's briefly recruited into the service of a passing Inquisitor, only to discover that the Inquisitor himself has an Eldar in his retinue.

Bro he'a a Word Bearer. Being overly talkative is literally his passtime. It's even in his Legion's name. Hell even before they were Word Bearers they were the Imperial Heralds. They literally exist to be talkative.

Same. In my first 40 hours I actually haven't encountered any writing in Rogue Trader that made me actually cringe. It feels like they had fun writing for it.

Anon Babble has a lot of playerbases even for niche titles while at this same time often lacking interest in popular ones, beyond their shilling during release. L4D2 alone has more players than Space Marine 2 and Darktide combined and yet cannot afford general on Anon Babble, while those two have separate ones. Then again Warhammer everything is in general abnormally popular on Anon Babble, they are basically Anon Babble's choice of a settings. Fucking Star Wars is completely dead on this site, which is not a thing outside this place. Owlcat in general had a lot of players on this site too.

Not sure if this is a popular opinion or not but for the next game I'd really rather they just release it finished and make any DLCs take place after the main story, only adding gear or classes or whatever to the main game but no story content.

She did everything wrong. The blood ravens did one mistake of not crushing her spirit stone to dust when they had the chance.

Atleast in dow 2 we get the satisfaction of bonking Idranael to a pulp. God, Eldar bitches in 40k are all insufferable.

Drops the line about Konrad losing his favour

It's implied by calling him "worm" and offering you a chance to gain favour instead
Your other criticisms are valid

You see this is something I hope Owlcat gets right, and I think they will. Half the fun of an Inquisitorial adventure is running into other, opposing Inquisitorial warbands. In Rogue Trader you might run into one or two others, but they are usually not ideologically opposed as much as they want a cut of your loot.

Inquisitors wear their politics and philosophies on their sleeve, and their human followers are often even more deeply committed to their masters than a Rogue Trader's followers.

Conflict within the Tyrantine Conclave and its factions should be as important as the main quest.

Hires the she-hulk "actress" for 75% of your total budget

paid shill said

I believe it

amazing

You guys got to watch the Hammer and Bolters series. Episode "Death's Hand". Shit animation but pretty cool.

SPESS MEHREENS have a tradition of smashing something that are asked not to touch, that is their problem

If the text is the same but full VA, game will be huge.

God, Eldar bitches in 40k are all insufferable.

Perhaps so, but I still want to fuck Kayleth

I wouldn't put it past a Chaos guy to call his underlings worms whether they had his favour or not, so the clarification is significant
The fact that he does mention his favour in light of that reinforces the idea that even if you get on his side you'll just be another worm to him

It's semi-related but my bigger issue with Uralon here is that Chaos villains in general are dull because they're obvious, he's barely pretending to make a good offer here because his disdain for you can't be ignored because it's literally carved into his forehead
Now DoW1 Eliphas, that was a Word Bearer with class, he wasn't exactly subtle but the way he taunts the Blood Ravens he at least makes it sound like he has a good reason they're both the way they are

Am I the only one that tends to read ahead in the text when the voice acting is going and it fucks me up?

Yeah Uralon isn't really very persuasive. He wouldn't be closing many sales.

one anon mentioned verticality and multiple ways to do quest similar to BG3 act 1. i want to see where they said such a thing. because this may be a the best owlcat game if they include such a thing

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I usually tune the va out, read the text and click forward

Depends on the performance
If I like the way the VA sounds I'll slow down deliberately to enjoy their speech
If they're shit/boring then I'll try to read ahead of them
Only problem is that sometimes the voice actors put in inflections that change the meaning of the line, so you can miss out if you push past them
Granted that is rare enough that I can't think of any examples off the top of my head but hey, I'm sure it happened at least once

Kayleth is hot and it's even hotter than she shut her dirty mouth up right after being fucked by Ronanh

Emps children companion for the heretic path?

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i want to see where they said such a thing

They said it on stream after the skulls event

You start as a Acolyte and become a Inquisitior LATER in the game. Edit: Valeria said "you can become a inquisitior, but you start as Acolyte." Then starrok reinforced it that you start as Acolyte.

The party size still 6 total. No change from Rogue Trader.

The power scale is lower than Rogue Trader

Story primarily about the Tyrant Star, learn about it.

Mommentum is gone. Morale system instead. You can build around the morale system.

Morality system. Radical/Puritan axis.

Less flat maps, more vertical maps. Changes to the engine.

Changes for the archetype system , a lot of changes. Improvements to make less overwhelming than rogue trader. Not dumbing down the system.

Fully voiced game. Starrok said that dialogue still the same as Rogue trader.

SLIGHTLY shorter game than Rogue trader, but with more reactivity and depth.

Romance are in the game. Roughly as many as Rogue trader.

One of the Origins from Rogue Trader is becoming a Archtype in Dark Heresy (Psyker probably)

Aaron Dembski-Bowden, author of Night Lords novels, is writing a tie-in novel for the game's collection edition.

Updated models and animations.

Ship about the size of the Ebon hawk.

Similar co-op to Rogue trader.

A investigation system that flow with the whole game better going to be replacing the Colony/Trader empire management from RT.

A cameo from Rogue Trader confirmed.

Same people behind Rogue trader's OST working in Dark Heresy

Anon Babble shitting and cumming everywhere because of a black person in Warhammer

Meanwhile, two decades ago

On second playthroughs yes. Otherwise I try not to.

Ok

this passage aside commissar cain is the most based man in the imperium

is this amberley? if i recall shes a nigress

Morality system. Radical/Puritan axis.

I wonder how a puritan run will work when half of the companions are xenos.

why does this read like the Bogdanoff pasta

What do you mean half when they've only shown two?

Valhallan

Amberley

I sure love to hear your retarded takes

talk to kebab

there's a bedsheet of text

finish reading it

bitch is still struggling to finish the first sentence

If this is the quality of voice acting we can expect from their "muh full va" game then i have zero hope for that trash

okay heres another, you are a white heterosexual male

Morality system. Radical/Puritan axis.

Jesus ficlking christ... how retarded are those vodka niggers? radical/puritan has nothing to do with morality

I turn off the VA for this reason

Same as in any fucking owlkek game you dumb retard - you just kill them and move on

nooooo people cant just talk at a normal pace muh autism MUH AUTISM

Funny
You, however, are an actual brown, retarded, secondary ESL. Since you neither know what Valhallans are, nor did you notice that the name of the brown person was explicitly mentioned in the footnote, written by Amberley.

kebab's pace is only normal if you have brain damage

Everyone does this except for specific important scenes. I genuinely don't know why you'd want full VA in a game like this. They'll just slash the text down and ramp the budget up for no gain.

not to mention ramping up the file size too

Hope this time they'll finish the game before releasing it and the plot doesn't shit itself in Act 4/5.
But then again it's Owlkek we're talking about.

Her stilted dialogue is deliberate part of her character, you can tell how much she struggles with talking with anyone and being "normal" when she could just be killing people just by listening to her VA
Which I'd argue should be reflected in the actual prose as well but given that the strength of the VA's performance I think it's fine to hear it occasionally and extrapolate to the unvoiced stuff
Pasqal is a good example of them balancing both, you get his particular Microsoft Sam voice but the game spends plenty of time writing about his particular shrills and hushes

If they're putting full VA in then it's a 3-act game tops. Combined with the casualized combat and recycled RT assets I can see this being more streamlined title, they're going for a wider audience here.

I think that's a mistake. The kind of people they want to appeal to will never play an Owlcat game.

It also helps that Pascal is interesting, his voice is cool and he kicks ass in combat

I've never been able to make Pasqal that good in combat. I gave him all the good traits including all the plasma ones and his damage is still ass. I might try a melee Pasqal next time.

Sure but I also never gave much thought to Death Cults in Warhammer before and Kibellah made me appreciate them
And she absolutely fucks in combat and my bed

I wonder if we'll get a Mechanicus party member in DH, in tabletop they always seem so essential in every party

he kicks ass in combat

Not particularly

Everyone agrees the owlcat games so far have been too long, it's purely a good change.

you can tell

I can tell she has brain damage

All they have to do is cut out the obligatory shitty midgame part, then take the obligatory janky unfinished part at the end, and attach it to the end of the last good part. There it's fixed.

Think I can live with a shorter, but tighter and more polished story. Both Wrath and RT are guilty of running out of steam after you get back from Alushynirra/Cumrag, then it's just some padding until you stumble towards the conclusion.

I genuinely don't know why you'd want full VA in a game like this

If they want to target the BG3 audience then they kind of have to. Plus RT had absolute bare bone VA on release, Theodora in the prologue had zero voiced lines, among other things.

I too think they will fail their goal. Their game lacks the graphical fidelity needed to reach that audience. Normals want beautiful graphics. But, I am happy for a shorter game.

DH wont have "heretic" (Or Iconoclast or Dogmatic exactly). It will have Puritan and Radical, which is in line with the existing Inquistorial factions in the setting. Puritan and Dogmatic are pretty much the same, but Radical isn't a pure analog to either Iconoclast or Heretic, and tend to be more of an "End Justifies the means" type of thing. In either case, for even the most Radical Inquisitors (Xanthians, Plutonians, Oblationists) having a actual Chaos Marine is likely too far. You'll get Night Lord antagonists sure, but not a companion. Chaos Radical stuff will probably stuff like a Daemonhost, Chaos Weapons, and other "sanctioned" and "controlled" chaos corruption.

Thanks for the info. gonna quote this if noone of this turns out to be true

the BG3 audience

Yeah that'd require GRAFICS as said, including full mocap and lip sync and everything. And also a setting besides 40k. Wamham is popular of course but nothing but the painfully generic 5e forgotten realms could reach such a broad audience.
That's why I think they're playing against their strengths here, they have a strong userbase of crpg nerds but they're spending budget on things crpg nerds couldn't give a shit about. while other games do those things 10x better and always will.

Yes, depending on how you were raised (ie in a cult) and how socialised you were growing up (ie you weren't) that can have a measurable, physical impact on your brain, which is what happens with IRL feral children
Socially stunted people aren't necessarily bad characters, despite your personal experience

The game is absolutely going to let you fall to chaos, this is a roleplaying game

She talks just fine when you click her

to be fair your image is modded so it's not like regular bg3 provides that either

They don't need to get the whole BG3 audience. They just want to expand it. And simple VO is still significantly easier than VO with high fidelity lipsync/mocap. Also, I think the point that VO makes it much easier to stream (And thus get promotional benefits) is a valid one. If they want to up their production values it's a logical next step.

Click her in combat or click her out of combat?
Because her little combat barks are short but also when she's most in her element, which is when she's killing people or about to kill people, so she's going to come off as more natural and confident
If she's practiced any kind of speaking it's definitely all her Dark Brotherhood-style one-liners about the Undying Emperor's justice and threads and whatever

If the game is well-written then you'll be able to fall into acting like an agent of chaos while only making decisions that further your work as an inquisitor
that's what "radical" should be imo, doing whatever it takes until people start accusing you of heterodoxy, and they're getting disappeared and black-bagged for accusing you of being chaos, as clearly they must be spies themselves. Maybe you're being effective while everyone else is lazy, or maybe you have tunnel vision while chaos eats away at you from within

RPGs figured out a long time ago how to use VA correctly - voice important story bits and just enough character barks to get their personality across.

Sad fact is most Americans read on the level of a 7th grader and consider subtitles an accessibility feature. These people will never embrace text-heavy RPGs as they are.

That's more of an end slide "Congrats you were declared heretic" thing. My point stands, anyone musing for a Traitor Legion companion is absolutely deluding themselves.

That's more of an end slide "Congrats you were declared heretic" thing

Give me a single reason to assume this'll be the case when every Owlcat game has allowed you to be evil through the entire game with dedicated evil routes

So about all that heretic path support in RT...

It's a game about being an inquisitor. If you purposely choose heretical options all game they'd either have to program an entirely different route where you get fired and do some other job, or have it with almost zero reactivity and push you along in the plot anyway. (like the evil routes in other owlcat games)
This isn't a situation where they can just kill your party members and slot in some chaos guys. Probably.

It is still a path even if it's less fleshed out than the other two. Much more than an ending slide saying you fell to chaos.

I do not think the stated switch from Dogmatic/Iconoclast/Heretic to Puritan/Radical is just a cosmetic one.

Heretical exists, it's the evil route of RT, it has it's own quests, it's own secret companions, it's own endings, it's own secret ending, plenty of dialogue options that are heretic only. Being half-assed compared to the other convictions is another thing entirely

Sure. But now what's left of it is squeezed into Radical with more Iconoclast style stuff. There is no explicity evil "alignment" now.

They want to be the new bioware, only they seem to have forgotten what bioware has turned into ultimately

You're playing as an inquisitor, so going full le Chaosfaggot for shits and giggles would be retarded and would get you hunted down by the spehss CIA in 5 seconds flat.
Getting slowly corrupted after thinking that you're built differently and can fight fire with fire, or being an unwitting pawn and getting fucked over is absolutely a thing, but those are different from just being a moustache twirling fag.

Heritical and iconoclast both are "radical" in RT, if Owlcat does what they've been doing since KM, then they'll simply offer you a multitude of radical choices that range from being fine with xenos but drawing the line at chaos, or going all in on drinking the chaos kool-aid.

If they manage to make a more presentable product and sell 2-3 millies instead of 1, then that's good enough for them.

Getting slowly corrupted after thinking that you're built differently and can fight fire with fire, or being an unwitting pawn and getting fucked over is absolutely a thing

Or actually embrace chaos because you want to but being subtle about it, instead of whatever the fuck it is you do in RT where Heinrix and Argenta don't do anything about it

That's not an unpopular opinion, but it's still not going to happen. Taking the time to fix the issues with Act 4 and Act 5 would be far more welcome than another companion DLC, but Owlcat isn't going to do it.

I feel like a night lord would be the most likely traitor marine to begrudgingly work with inquisitors if the circumstances absolutely demanded it given how they’re honorless and opportunistic while (most of them) try to avoid giving in to total chaos taint.
It could be fun if while he’s on your ship you have to be sure to placate him and choose your dialogue options carefully so that he doesn’t run off and start flaying your crew members on a whim cause he’s bored.

embrace chaos because you want to

Nah, that's retarded and it makes for a worse story overall.

traitor marine

Renegade marine at best, full blown CSMs are fucked in the head and look/smell bad.

Does anyone have that gay and trans Abelard dialogue saved?

How's this game morality system? From what I've seen you either play a total goody two shoes retard, go full BLAMmissar or become a heretic
What about all the things that don't fit into those? Like I dunno an evil but non chaos bastard or something

What about all the things that don't fit into those?

They fall in the "mix and match but never reach rank 3 with any conviction" conviction

Which thankfully gets unique ending slides that are actually cool instead of the usual "you didn't go extremely into one direction, enjoy your shit ending" fare.

that are actually cool

The best actually

Yeah and that's it, no secret companions, no high rank conviction benefits, no secret ending, no special dialogue options
There should have been a fourth conviction

It's actually really good for a video game.

Dogmatic Sanctic Psyker is kino

no secret companions

They all suck anyway

no high rank conviction benefits

Legitimate complaint

no secret ending

Unique ending slides are the exact same thing, it just wouldn't make sense for Glorious to fuck around with C'tan

no special dialogue options

Not necessary when you get to pick the non-ideologue ones unlike people playing on those paths

Why the constant threads there's nothing to talk about

Kill yourself you lying faggot.

Owlfags like to have a 24/7 general

People are currently talking about RT convictions, so not only are you wrong you're unable to read the few posts above you.

This is a DH thread not RT

This game looks terrible compared to RT just based on the companion reveal, I have serious doubts this is going to end up in a good place.

no high rank conviction benefits

Not being a peanut brain retard is a benefit in and of its own

virgin waifufaggot crying again

Ay the rate you're losing moisture you're gonna get dehydrated, bro

Other anons said Cassia but Argenta is also very feminine in the compassionate approach to Imperial humans who are downtrodden. Especially children.

Why more warhammer slop

No. But you're the miserable lying faggot here.

Unless Owlcat unlocked the fucking hyperbolic time chamber and the golden goose it's an impossible claim. Full VA makes big demands on the development cycle. There WILL be sacrifices, just as there have been for every other fully voiced RPG ever made.

As far as I'm concerned this is Owlcat admitting they would rather pander to normies than spend time on the shit their grognard fanbase actually cares about.

Better than Pathfinder, at least.

They have only played RT because muh waifus

because t hey like it

Pays well. don't worry tho, they said they will make PF2E game someday.

No, they didn't, they were just being diplomatic about the fact they dropped Pathfinder.

Playing as a Witch Hunter in the Reiksland or something has been my dream game for so many years.

And you know this because???. if they did they would have said so. neither Paizo have said anything about not working with them anymore. don't know which part of your ass are you pulling this information from

not a single Owlcat game has maintained its momentum going into the final third of the game, they're way too overambitious and run out of steam before they can finish. RT was particularly egregious in this regard.

come home Wammer Man...

Genuinely fucking kill yourself. Have you head popped like the zit that it is.
Nobody likes these nigger characters. NOBODY. This is supported by hard data released by these companies. Nobody talks about them (because normal people just park them and never touch them), until someone brings up why the fuck are there niggers. Everyone but 1 faggot agree that they suck ass, the one faggot always bring up the defense that they are "well written". They are not, they are annoying to listen to, they are flavorless inserts that make your ears bleed when you hear thr cringe lines they speak and the dogshit voice acting.
Fuck you, you are a faggot contrarian who defends them only because they are niggers. You see how everyone dislikes them and jump in to defend the dear fictional negro.

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They said there will be no Pathfinder games in the near future and that none of their current projects are Pathfinder, either. Best case scenario given modern day development cycles is a new Pathfinder game about 8-10 years from now, if they ever touch it again at all.

Already put thousands of hours into it, both during the original release and with RoR. It's a dogshit game but there's nothing else like it.

I'm not reading any of that. Put I might if you put a wig on and suck me off.

They said there will be no Pathfinder games in the near future

They never said that. they just said they don't have any project related to pathfinder/dnd right now.

Best case scenario given modern day development cycles is a new Pathfinder game about 8-10 years from now,

more like 5-7. how much time was it before wotr and rt release? i remember playing the game during the enhanced edition which was 9th months old iirc and during that time they had released four dlcs + patches.

30 hrs in here. happy with the writing as well. haven't played their other games

So yeah i checked and it's like 2-3 years at best. sooo we will maybe get a PF2E game at like 2030 or 2033. who knows, maybe the game would be just like Baldur gate.

It's pretty impressive that Owlcat has not only improved on this part of their games, they've actively made it worse. Kingmaker still has the best end game of the three games they've made, and that was the worst part of that game too, it's just that WotR and RTs end games make that look better by comparison they're so terrible.

I sincerely doubt it, Pathfinder is not a well liked or known setting, and just about any other option would be better for another fantasy RPG. Owlcat has actual options now that they're decently successful, why would they go back to drinking from the dregs of the fantasy IP list?

how much time was it before wotr and rt release

Wrath took 3 years and RT 2,5 iirc, bit over 2 years between the two releases.
Right now they're working on DH and a steampunk feudal Japan game that is supposed to release this year.

Kingmaker endgame

Good

I swear Kangmakerfags are becoming insuffering as time goes on. next they are gonna say that kingdom managment was fun

Kingmaker still has the best end game of the three games they've made

Nyrissa's funhouse alone makes it the worst one

being "fair," House at the Edge of Time is only matched by Enigma in how awful it is

feudal Japan game

That's a different studio.

Its hilarious to think 40k is so fucked a Ordo Xenos Inqusitor who allied with Dark Eldar to fight the enemies of the Imperium vs a Ordox Xenos Inquisitor who allied with Tau to fight the enemies of the Imperium are both equally radical but one is a much bigger threat to the Imperium then the other.

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Pathfinder is not a well liked or known setting

spoken like someone has never played TTRPG. and the only reason they did Pathfinder was because most of their team member are pf fans otherwise they would have made their own generic dnd setting like obsidian or even Larian did. also why are you so anal about Pathfinder tho? did you steal their girl or something?

Kingmaker still has the best end game

rape house

mandatory bookification

Yeah no.
WotR and RT final acts are tedious and/or lacking content but nothing comes even remotely close. Well, maybe Nenio's utter slog of a backer content dungeon. Which is still optional.

mfw pure fucking MENACE as Warrior Priest in T1

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Let's not the High Lords of Terra including the Fabricator-General of Mars (possibly dead due to this) sold entire star systems and their populations as eternal torture victims to the Drukhari to capture at their leisure so they could get a certain Kabal to fix the Golden Throne only to be thwarted by an Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor revealing the true purpose of the deal from the Drukhari perspective with the end result that all the Imperials who knew of the deal are probably dead or far worse at the hands of the Drukhari. Oh and as a bonus now possibly no one even knows the Golden Throne is going to fail within a few centuries.

you steal their girl

meant steal his girl but you get the idea

>mandatory bookification

I don't follow.

Doesn't that only happen if you trigger perils of warp random effects?
That never happened to me despite the amount of warp skills I used to make Heinrix oneshot him after wiping the map with Carnival of Misery.

To be fair neither have most P:KM players. D&D is something anyone even remotely into RPG has at least vague idea of. Pathfinder not so much.

spoken like someone has never played TTRPG

hahahahahahahaha
Nobody cares about Pathfinder compared to dnd

well it's irrelevant if you just delete him before he's allowed to take a turn

So are they making a game for each of the old TTRPG books?

Linzi dies and gets turned into your journal, no matter what you do.

Why does every owlcat game have a token black party member

Every party needs a subhuman

Funny thing about Linzifags is that Linzi is gay so even if she was a romance option it would have been Baroness only, and they would have seethed about that too

Proving again that you are nogame faggot who thinks dndogshit is great because it's popular. Pathfinder 1e was and still is the most played system because it's decent 3.5e clone when 4e was pushed everywhere. 2E also managed to carve a niche as a modern and better 4e game.
Don't know. instead of adding the hot oracle iconic or giving us a cute hospitalier sob romance they gave us a bitch face seelah and the DH nigger
mods will fix it

Pathfinder's good as a system but I've never used the setting in my life and I've played a lot of pathfinder.

I can't tell if they actually care about the licenses or if they're just cheaply available so they're going for it.

nogame faggot who thinks dndogshit is great because it's popular

I never said that it was good, retard, we're talking about popularity

Pathfinder 1e was and still is the most played system

Okay you're baiting, I get it

Ekundayo: dudebro

Seelah: dudebro but retarded

Sosiel: gay dude you can humiliate

Idira: insane alcoholic you can blam whenever you want

It's cool.

full voiced dialog isn't the worst thing. of course, significant conversations & character barks are the sweet spot but it's when there's fully voiced dialog AND narration that's the problem. conversations are mired down to molasses and VA budget explodes for no reason when all the reasonable players read ahead and skip through.

Sosiel is such a non character that every time the topic of black characters in owlcat games comes up I forget he exists

That was Taldeer, and that busty bimbo paid the price and jobbed to the fucking TAU lmao. Macha dindu nuffin

Because Owlcat isn't like you chuds and RT is getting a second.

Before BG3 came out

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what does this even mean

Both. GW has been throwing out the 40k license at pretty much everyone who wanted it after THQ went tits up, so we got a bunch of cash grab slop with the occasional hits.

most of that CoC was probably japan alone lol

I never knew Pathfinder existed before Owlcat

billion types of homebrews and other shit hte roll20 system can't categorize? "other games" are stuff they have support for

As far as the minigames go, Space Battles > Kingdom Management > Crusade Battles.

ah I see

I'd be more surprised if it had changed at all. I don't think normies who played BG3 have an interest in tabletop.

The setting is a pozzed kitchen sink but it was a fun pozzed kitchen sink during 1e. i liked golarion back than when it was filled with slutty villianeous you can dick down and fix, monster girls. tons of Adventure paths that flesh out the world and had that anime isekai looks that dnd never had. 2e is a fun system but it butchered the already shitty setting. Thankfully Owlcat will avoid it and just rewrite the shitty lore away like they did in km and wrath

I would never steal Pathfinders girls, they're all hideous girlbosses and some form of LGBTQ+ monstrosities.

That makes sense. I was wondering why Other games existed alongside it.

Most people didn't, people played kingmaker because Owlcat sold it as a spiritual successor of BG2, the Pathfinder IP was irrelevant

Keep in mind these are A) digital-only and B) Roll20 statistics. I'm sure D&D 5E is still the hottest shit regardless, but everything else may different in real life metrics.

Do they like the tentacles or something

Pathfinder girls are the reason owlcat is a big studio now. imagine if there game didn't Wendaug, Areelu, Nyrissa or Arueshalae. everyone would have forgotten about the game like poe1&2

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star wars doing THAT bad with all editions combined

holy shit. disney utterly destroyed it.

Jesus didn't know the 5e rot had gotten so bad. Dreadful business.

No one cares about any of those besides Arueshalae and Nyrissa, the latter especially because you could dick down the villain

Where would Shadowrun fit? Other games?

Pathfinder girls are the reason owlcat is a big studio now.

waifufag..... the romance is a tiny part of their autism games...

How much femMCxCog fan art are we going go get? you know those femoid artfags are fucked in the head

It's stil one of the biggest selling points. Or are you going to ignore the one gorillion posts we've had about not wanting to play RT because no muh Argenta romance

FFG Star Wars wasn't terribly popular in the first place, but yeah outside of a few TCW/Rebels tie-in sourcebooks Disney just sort of let it wither on the vine.

And yet its all people really talk about. Same with all the BG3 discussion being around the romance. Not just here but among the normies too.
It doesn't matter how much of a part it has in the game it's just the main draw for a large chunk of the playerbase.

Call Of Cthulhu Owlcat game when?

they'll treat him as a sweet baby boy at best, women aren't into ogryn as much as men.

Still doesn't mean the setting is good, or popular, even if the system is.

Because Star Wars RPGs were never THAT big in the first place. It's a licence primarily based on movies and lightsaber action.

Sounds like 100% PR bullshit.

Detail what 2E changed and or ruined, I'm curious, because from what I saw, PF1E was terrible enough as is.

Simultaneously a lot of things and very little. Alignments are completely gone, for example.

and it's still the most talked about thing. you could make a camellia vs Arue thread and it would easily reach 500+ repliy

its all people really talk about

Nah, it's just schizos and retards like Noldorfag. Both the Wrath and RT threads were kino on release.

So?
Romancefaggotry is literally the number one reason behind RPG popularity and pretty much always has been. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend Baldur's Gate 2 wasn't way more successful than Icewind Dale because the latter was essentially just a top down combat simulator while the former gave you dark elf pussy and let you defeat a god at his own game.
The only thing people remember from the base game Neverwinter Nights campaign is wanting to fuck Aribeth and the most memorable part of its expansion is that you can not only bang her but also end up in a harem end with the bad bitch drow assassin.
What's the biggest discussion topic for final fantasy 7? Tifa vs Aerith.
What's the biggest discussion topic for every purse owner game? Who's best girl. Asuka vs Rei is eternal for a reason.
Secondaries only know about Baldur's Gate 3 but in Original Sin 2 it was the same shit flinging over Sibelle vs Lohse, original sin 1's endings are focused over whether or not your main characters forged a soulforge between each other or not.
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is remembered for its kick button and Xana's surprisingly loyal and devoted succubus ass.

It turns out that in a genre defined by "slay the dragon, get the girl, be a hero" people care about the "get the girl" part of the fairytale.

It's the part your most casual audience will latch onto because it's for sure not going to be autistic build crafting. Simplest aspects people go for tend to be most represented ones. For some reason wherever they are, or should have been, romances are among those.

In lore or system wise

Did you just samefag 5 times? Its all you fags talk about because you extremely horny and only talk on Anon Babble or Anon Babble

Owlcat is popular because of waifus!

first thing that comes to mind is fucking Wenduag

lmao

because you have a group that desperately just want to be jedi/sith and everyone else

any game that's not ont he list, numbskull

multiple people say you're wrong

t-they must be samefagging

Sorry bro, romancefags own the CRPG genre

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I think they ultimately made the right call. They could've easily turned into Beamdog if they decided to make their name by following up on existing game(s), for example.

Do you mean before the game came out? Because after the game came out the Wrath and RT threads were primarily people screaming about the innumerable bugs in the game and other posters laughing at them for buying an Owlcat game on release.

but your image disproves it, most people just care that the game is well written

puzzles the lowest

Enigma bros... this grain of sand is fading...

Puzzlebros, are we doomed?

bros i'm sorry
i just couldn't complete WOTR... it's too much, there's just too much shit man I can't do it

generally i prefer 40k than fantasy shit
is RT shorter at least?

Romance isn't even first you retard. Nice to know you will play 300 hours of combat for 10 minutes

literally called the WORD BEARERS

leaders literally tattoo the text of what's basically the bible across their faces and bodies

obsessed with sophistry on a genetic level due to their gay space daddy's influence

you could not have picked a worse example

yes in that there is almost no content in Acts 4 and 5

Since the game basically isn't worth playing in RT past the first two acts, yeah, definitely.

yeah it's about half the length

puzzles - 71

WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yep. in the sense that act 3 is just 2 hours long and act 4 barely exist.

and only talk on Anon Babble or Anon Babble

Are you going to pretend that normalfags on reddit don't do the same thing?

All that full VO money could've and should've been spent on player/NPC portraits and (new) animations. If I see picrelated Kingmaker animation reused one more fucking time, I'm gonna start throwing turds at their windows.

owlcat is making another 40k and its dark heresy

you have no idea how happy this makes me

Am i the only one that thing RT is unfinished? maybe it's me but i think Owlcat cut an entire act just to push this game out faster. I always have this feeling that the entire act 3 felt rushed when the ambush happened because there is no build up to it

Areshkagal Cultist

If I see picrelated Kingmaker animation reused one more fucking time

you better believe you will, brother

Am i the only one that thing RT is unfinished?

No are you dumb. The first dlc had content they cut out with the jean thieves.

dude literally everyone knows they obviously rushed it and act 5 makes very little sense. The whole edge of daybreak thing just fizzles out basically and suddenly its all about muh necrons. Great game but they fucked it up

But companions look far better already

there's very little content in act 5 and arguably even 4. maybe finally playing the game with all dlc will make for a complete experience.

It's absolutely unfinished and one of the main criticisms of the game.

Genuine question: If romance sells so weel, ehy don't Owlcat and other studios like Larian make it a bigger part of their game? Most romances are just several big scenes + some reactivity in other dialogue. Which doesn't clcok in to even an hour of content at best maybe 30 min.

nah, you'll just suffer through Commorragh then finish the DLC quests in Act 4 without finishing the actual game

Because there's no need

No, after they came out.
Wrath threads were mostly about Greyborposting, laughing at Lichfaggots, build autism exploiting the jank, courtesy to Froggy, and making fun of people who had no idea they could rotate the camera in Alushynirra.
RT threads had Abelardposting, 40k lore autism and more build autism.

innumerable bugs in the game

We know. It's part of the Owlkek experience.

At least make your shitposts believable my dude, these companions look like trash outside of maybe the Kroot.

Because maybe they want to make a real game first?

Really? I love all the cuckshit!

Is it gonna be another owlcat game where the male romance options are normal and all the women options are ugly creatures and/or whores?

Greyborposting

Froggy

How to spot a Anon Babblefag, sir, this is Anon Babble

Only nigger looks bad. Corsair is inherently superior to a Ranger. Ogryn is better than space yiff - a marine from the worst SM chapter. Kroot is good on it's own. Catachad looks better than gay looking Heinrix on RT. So far casts mogs the shit out of RT cover.

The DLC is not going to fix anything since it's all focused on its own content and companion, which is self contained. Void Shadows was a great DLC, but it also highlighted how bad the main story was by comparison since the Genstealer plot and DLC storyline actually gets finished in a satisfactory and fun way.

the male romance options are normal

What's so normal about Regongar? Or Tristian, the traitor?
Or Daeran (by far the most popular one) the manwhore who tries to fuck some of your companions?
Or fucking Marazhai in general)

kingdom managment was fun

it was

The cop should have looked like this minus the dreads

what else could you honestly add more to the romance?

Based on the initial companion reveal, yeah, it'll be the standard array. If you're lucky you'll get a decent romance in one of the DLCs.

Why would their be normal women in 40gay. Argenta talks about burning people to death for fun.

Froggy used to post here too retard

these companions look like trash

Revealing companions that people have been bitching about ever since RT got released is fine.

The dreads are cool though

I'll move back as soon as this gets released.

In fact, since I know you people get triggered by Casisa being a mutant, then let me add Lann into the mix, a literal half lizard
Have you never thought that maybe there is no anti-straight propaganda and that you're just a boring fag that wants the most generic human ever (like Sosiel, the least popular character in WotR)?

Truthnuke shills will never admit.

t-t-t-the dlc f-f-fixed the g-g-game

No it didn't, fuck off, cunts

I'm talking more visually. Argenta is actually hot which is why the owlcat faggot devs didn't want us to romance her.

Epone looks like shit

Yeah.

Kroot looks good

Yeah.

Corsair is inherently superior to a Ranger

No, it's really not, and Yrliet wasn't even a Ranger, she was a shitty Outcast, which is one of the reasons she was such a failure as a character.

Ogryn is better than a Space Marine

Alright you are delusional, also Space Wolves are not the worst chapter by any means.

Catchan looks better than Heinrix on the cover art

This is the only one I'll give you.

No now go back to your WEG

Tristian

besides the betrayal plot, for which he is remorseful and even dropped warning hints against because he felt guilt doing it, he was one of the most normal romances

for which he is remorseful

Because that helped Yrliet so much

cut content

Technically, it wasn't cut. I'm wiling to bet it wasn't even done by then.
Was the Unity debacle really that bad to justify releasing a blatantly unfinished build and fuck every player over?

I wouldn't touch WEG garbage with a 10 foot pole. No one was even talking about porn either so I think you're just projecting.

It fixes it in the sense of adding good content to the otherwise anemic act 4. Apparently the Necron/Trazyn DLC will mostly focus on the lategame which also helps.
Obviously the basegame content doesn't get better but it does feel better to play the entire experience. Who knows how the game will feel in a couple years, maybe it'll feel well balanced or maybe it'll feel hugely bloated.

Yrliet was a bitch to everyone,giving half-assed apology and still expecting help despite the shit she did. Her behavior is pretty schizo. Tristian actually acts accordingly.

I'm sorry or whatever I guess

She is not remorseful at all. She just feels bad for herself because she is such a failure

Yrliet genuinely apologizes to you and only cares about you, most of the ship hates her simply because she's a xenos

Argenta is actually hot

She's a 70 IQ retard who gets mad that you can't just punch or shoot warp storms so they go away. Romancing her would be just wrong.

Bravo Owlcat. I assume it was cause there's a random ship with them in the base game that's never expanded upon.

he doesn't want to romance a violence bimbo that giggles the same regardless if she's having sex with you or shooting heretics

You're gay.

It's sufficiently big, it's really like 5% of the experience but gets a huge amount of people talking, gooning and making fanart increasing the exposure of the game.
If devs wanted to actually try with romances they'd try to do something beyond fucking once being the lock-in stage. Relationships have their ups and downs and especially scenes with making choices that fundamentally disagree with the romance option should be suitably dramatic. They're also very player-led which is missing about half the experience that's possible.

No, no he didn't, not when the game came out. Your favorite furfag started posting here later

Acting like that when everyone wants to lynch her for a genuine grievance is retarded. Her behavior in general should be tamer considering she is a xeno on a human ship who's captain agreed to help her and who's captain she ends up wronging

RT on release was wild as fuck tho

3min loading screens on a ssd

performance issue despite the game looking ass. even on low

Cumrug runs at like 24 with stutter on a rx580

two Ulfar

Heinrix and jae getting deleted from the game

Nomos getting revealed out of nowhere because the flags for it's even didn't trigger in act 2

people said Wrath was bugg during release but it has nothing on RT

Everyone wanted to lynch her before anyway, it literally changes nothing for her. She only lives because of the RT's protection and the RT is the only person she can care about on the ship. What's the point in apologizing to the others when it no ones opinion can change?

I don't care, this isn't about Yrliet, fact is Tristian is a traitor (and in a way worse than her, because at least she was just a brainlet that got tricked). If he was a woman all the waifutards begging to fuck him would hate him

I pirated it right away so I imagine I had an early build and encountered none of these, completed the game within a week

She's a 70 IQ retard

she's a cute girl anon thats redundant

No one would care about either betrayal if sex was on the table. Most of the Yrliet hate would be converted to Yrliet defense if there was a scene of the player character in his/her underwear in bed with her.

This. there are people who defend Galfrey because she fucks you

I had next to no problems with release RT beyond a specific flag not triggering properly
It' was Yrliet romance related.

Everyone wanted to lynch her before anyway

No, they didn't attempt it nor demand her to be killed stop bullshitting
Considering she is on extra thin ice now and she did fuck them over.
Schizotard reply
I never denied Tristian was a betrayer and the response was talking about Yrliet

replying to yrliturd defense force

What did you expect?

I doubt it anon. Wenduag fucks you just about every position and people still hate on her. Also even if some of the shitposting stopped you'd still have the Noldorfag wannabes continuing their non stop crusade.
Fact is that Owlcat threads have been signaled as a shitposting grounds so you get all manner of shitters trying their best to ruin every thread.

Cassia feminine virgin with a curves but she's a mutant 0/10

Jae has big boobs, but she's a brown whore who is old 0/10

Yrliet female elf but she wont touch you 0/10

Kibellah my sex slave but she cuts herself and has piercings 0/10

Just no way to win!!

Yrliet has never survived one of my playthroughs, try again

Galfrey was rewritten by Owlcat to be a retard to make the protagonist more important, she honestly doesn't deserve any hate given that fact.

What's her best death. I need to know for when Lex comes out.

My Cassia somehow had six gorillion movement and action points every turn. I did, in fact, not beat the game because of that. Next time I will be benching her and won't be using any officers whatsoever. Officers were a fucking mistake.

galfrey isn't actually that bad; the abyss section is mandatory and half the mythic paths are hilariously over the top evil shit.

No, they didn't attempt it nor demand her to be killed stop bullshitting

They didn't attempt or demand because of your authority, but all of them would be happy to see her dead. She doesn't have a single ally on the ship except the RT and MAYBE Marazhai wanting to torture her into becoming Drukhari, not that he'd majorly care if she died anyway so at best he's neutral.

Argenta

Loud and proud dogmatic, kill 'em all and let the Emperor sort them out.

Idira

Doesn't give a shit.

Abelard

Happy to see any xeno dead, just too loyal to ever do it himself.

Cassia

Dogmatic (ironically) and happy to see any xeno dead.

Pasqal

Not only happy to see any xeno dead, can actually kill her in the ending.

Heinrix

Happy to torture her to death.

Jae

Actually hates Eldar, happy to see her dead.

Ulfar

Happy to see her dead.

Kibellah

Happy to see her dead.

Moving in the act 4 city is ass I will never forgive her

Only reason people like Tristian while hating Yrilet was because Tristian was forced by Nyrissa to do bad shit and even than tried to help your kingdom in various ways. while Yrilet was retard who had her nose stuck in the air and betrayed you because she thinks you are a animal and she would rather trust her dark eldar brethren than you, a guy who helps her in every way and even tries to learn about meditation from her if you do her ''''romance"''

So true brother this is all anti white-male propaganda, all the male romances are norm-

Regongar is a polyamorous cuckold

Tristian is a traitor and he prefers his goddess over you

Daeran has a body count of 2000+ and constantly tries to fuck some of your companions

Lann is a disgusting half-lizard caveman

Ulbrig is a zoophile who fucks you while shapeshifted, proto Halsin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marazhai

If you're expecting sundress wheat field tradwives in warhammer you're never going to find them.
Sacrificing her soulstone to Slaanesh

Everyone wanted to lynch her before anyway, it literally changes nothing for her. She only lives because of the RT's protection and the RT is the only person she can care about on the ship.

Just like Idira and Jae. What's your point?

she literally finds a piece of her destroyed home proudly displayed on your ship and she's an emotionally distraught autistic teenager

This is retarded fanfiction none of them advised you to kill her prior to that and some of it is outright lies Abelard, Cassia and Jae tried being nice to her you utter fucking moron. And whenever someone tried to be nice to her she was the one who started shirflinging with the exception of Heinrix.

Again No, they didn't attempt it nor demand her to be killed before the betrayal stop bullshitting.

Difference is that Women find that shit appealing compared to men.

Dogmatic (ironically) and happy to see any xeno dead.

Cassia literally says that death is too merciful for her, and she doesn't want to see "any xeno dead" in her good ending, she literally advocates for peace with the clowns

Yeah, no one talks about this as much as they should, but RT combat, while a step up from the cookie clicker garbage that was the Pathfinder games, is absolutely terrible and easily trivialized due to several key mistakes they made in building their TBC system. I really hope they improve in Dark Heresy because it made RT very boring to play since the combat was such a joke midway through Act 2, if that, and yes, that's on the highest difficulty settings.

sundress wheat field tradwives

Every game with romance should have at least one, required by law

Im not im making fun of the idiots who cry about it!
Nobody finds Lann appealing or Regonongar

Putting God above spouse is good actually.

>Heinrix

Happy to torture her to death.

Only after the full extent of her uselessness and retardation comes to light. He outright says that he's got no problem with you working with her, even though he warns you not to trust her

>Jae

Actually hates Eldar, happy to see her dead.

Not really, she just sees them as an opportunity. She only hates deldar, and rightfully so

Again No, they didn't attempt it nor demand her to be killed before the betrayal stop bullshitting.

Good thing I never said that. Consider repeating first grade and learn how to read before responding.

Doesn't give a shit.

Dogmatic (ironically) and happy to see any xeno dead.

Actually hates Eldar, happy to see her dead.

Are we talking before, or after act III here?
Because Idira is one of the few companions that actually tries to be nice to Yrliet, but Yrliet being well...a cunt never really returns the favor And Cassia is nothing but polite to her, but she also creeps Yrliet the fuck out, which is fair since she's a permanently open portal to the immaterium. Any eldar would be creeped the fuck out by a navigator I imagine. I rarely bring Jae along but, I remember there was one funny interaction during the act IV sewer mission if you have both Yrliet and Marazhain on the team, but I only saw screenshots.
Also Abelard hates Heinrix way more than he hates Yrliet, which is hilarious if you play a femRT.

Nah all of them want her dead after Cumrag, even Idira. I think they are justified after all the torture.

Really wonder what went wrong with Aurora then

hi I'm aurora

change is here

die

Exactly! Thank you.

Abelard

Happy to see any xeno dead, just too loyal to ever do it himself.

Jae

Actually hates Eldar, happy to see her dead.

Cassia

Dogmatic (ironically) and happy to see any xeno dead.

You are either shitposting for (You)s or didn't play the game

>Regongar is a polyamorous cuckold

women love this shit tho, especially the fact he and octavia are sex slaves who trauma bonded they eat that shit up

>Daeran has a body count of 2000+ and constantly tries to fuck some of your companions

yes women love slutty manwhore gyaru-oh elven men

Ulbrig is a zoophile who fucks you while shapeshifted, proto Halsin

see pic related

is this your first day on the internet discovering men and women are different?

My CRPG will have one but there will be a cruel twist :^)

What about Tristian, Daeran, Heinrix and Marazhai
Don't dare deny they 100% appeal to women because you'll be lying.

Yes you did in >Everyone wanted to lynch her before anyway
And your statements of half the characters are utterly false you fucking retard

Stop speaking for everyone, because the succubus and mutant that disgust you so much both are extremely popular, especially the former. Meanwhile nobody cares about Lann or Regongar

her best death

Romancing her throughout the game, then after she sacrifices her Spirit Stone to help you out on Quetza Temer, you tell her to go fuck herself and leave her to die horribly.

Wrath has one but people hate her because she is a succubus.

such a thing will be punishable by death

Does she actually die horribly if you do that? Is there a special ending slide?

Turns out her ending happens after the entire game where she has had a chance to grow and change. We're talking about pre-act 3 here.
You should read the rest of the conversation before responding
Doesn't sound like you have any arguments left, I accept the concession.

Aurora was just really really cheesed with the RT for screwing over his plans.

Yeah so? They aren't tradwife material like you want in female characters

>Abelard

Happy to see any xeno dead, just too loyal to ever do it himself.

You shitposting faggot he is the only one who has no negative bants with her, she is respectful to him back. And during trial he just says remove her from retinue.

I would welcome death, so go ahead. But only after my game is out.

sex with Fake Aurora

Women do not want tradhusbands you gigantic fucking retard. Men and women want different things in their fucking romances in video games because they want different things in real life.

lol no, Regongar was the Lann of KM, no one cared about him and he got utterly mogged by Tristian. In fact that's offensive to Lann because he does have a niche but dedicated fanbase of women that want the lizard dick

What about Tristian

no, boring

Daeran

yes, but only as a yaoi fantasy

Heinrix

yes

Marazhai

no, boring fetishbait
t. femoid. That said, other femoids might have a different opinion. Acting like it's universal is fucking retarded

Ah yes Marazhai my tradhusband

t. femoid

Tits or gtfo.

Doesn't sound like you have any arguments left, I accept the concession.

lmao what a mindbroken waifutard
I and other anons gave you the arguments which you ignored

This is retarded fanfiction none of them advised you to kill her prior to that and some of it is outright lies Abelard, Cassia and Jae tried being nice to her you utter fucking moron. And whenever someone tried to be nice to her she was the one who started shirflinging with the exception of Heinrix.

You statements about them wanting to kill her b4 Cumrag is bullshit, Abelard doesn't even want to do it after it
You just posted lies mate, the shit you wrote about more than half the characters doesn't happen in the game

He is weirdly loyal to you in his romance

Lann because he does have a niche but dedicated fanbase of women that want the lizard dick

For real? I've never seen anyone reacting to him and his romance in any other way but "oh, god, cringe"

Acting like it's universal is fucking retarded

that's how generalizing works, I'm not going to start pretending that Marazhai isn't the ideal female fantasy just because there's a few women that don't like him, the number speaks for themselves, he ranked higher than Heinrix
Also, tits or get the fuck out

Do you lack reading comprehension? That's his entire point.

Tristian is great and stop being a fujo about Daeran

Tristian is unironically my favorite romance, but I guess I'm in the minority

people

Anon Babbletards

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No you are not. Its just that fujo

>Heinrix

Happy to torture her to death.

Jimmi flat out tells you that working out a deal with the Eldar on Janus is the best possible outcome for the shithole.
And you can tell him to sit the fuck down, since Achilleas got turned and he was supposed to be his operative.
And then there's Calcazar's faggotry.

She was the one that started shitflinging

She only really threw shit at Idira, and it was more "you're gonna end up dead if you keep huffing warp fumes ya dumb mon'keigh"

OWLCAT wheres my 16 year blonde virgin tradwaifu? 0/10. Just cancel all your games until you do this.

lann would be more popular if he leaned into his racial tirades against tieflings more

I just want a Primarch dating sim. Is that so much to ask for?

got one for WOTR?

Yes, instead you're going to continue being a hysterical retard

He's just too wimpy and his lizard face is ugly

Wrong again, Cassia was nice to her Yrliet insulted her back, Jae tried being nice to her Yrliet was a cunt back.

my succubus tradwife...

Ah yes Marazhai my tradhusband

marazhai is literally "trad" in that your actual IRL grandmother was probably reading bodice-ripper Harlequin Romance novels about someone exactly like him.

Dark Eldar are one of the most popular 40k armies for women to play because they're basically a laundry list of romance novel tropes checked off

Space Pirates

Edgy Dark Fae aesthetic

also basically psychic vampires feeding on pain

ALSO bdsm enthusiasts and everyone is a switch who both takes and gives pain

ALSO full of court drama and intrigue/politics between different Kabals and Archon Courts

I thought the space bugs were popular for the 3 women who play 40k.

I meant here, on Anon Babble and Anon Babble I saw a lot of other femanons say he's boring or not masculine enough
Though I don't browse Owlcat related threads consistently

Cassia was nice

Cassia was polite, and Yrliet wasn't rude back like she was with Idira. She just state a fact that Cassia's creepy, which she is.
Also there's another dialogue where Cassia states that Yrliet's also creepy in her eyes because eldar emotions are basically a flashbang to her powers and it fucks her up.
I dunno about Jae, never bring her along.

what was the most romanced girl in KM? i know Wrath was Arue and RT Cassia.

He is weirdly loyal to you in his romance

it's not weird if you know anything about romance novels, peak female fantasy is a handsome gigachad bad boy being tamed by the woman's magic pussy and keeping all the things that make him dangerous and sexy but being pussywhipped into staying loyal and providing for her.

men want to be a woman's first, women want to be a man's last.

Idira: "She deserved what she got! We took her in, protected her, and even got involved with her kin... I say we take her body to Tervantias, have him resurrect her, and then kill her again!"

I had to look for it. Kys Yrlietfag.

stop being a fujo about Daeran

Never! He will be my paladin's sqeeze for all eternity

x8 more Good playthroughs than Evil

Why do RPG developers keep wasting time on Evil paths no one ever actually wants or plays? At least Owlcat has finally fully realized this is which is why they're doing the Traditional/Radical axis instead.

Based Idira.

She says this but then she also is way more mellow later on in act IV.
So is Cassia. Both have dialogue commenting on the romance.

I don't get the yrliet defense force.
I don't dislike Yrliet, I actually think she's a decent characters, but whenever someone points out any flaw with her or a valid criticism anything they don't like, the YDF instantly attacks that with nonsense "counterpoints" as if they want everyone to see her as perfect

tries to find a common ground with a xenos

lol you're creepy

not rude

You have an interesting definition of what constitutes "not rude"

Nobody likes being raped by the Deldar. They are justified in wanting her dead.

and Yrliet wasn't rude back

Naive child. You are a monster to your own kind. Were it not for your third eye that sees Sha'eil, the thread of your fate would have been severed at birth.

How the fuck is that not rude?

Idira also says that you should go easy on Yrliet after you escape Cumrag, she basically says "we got out so it all worked out"

What
In my game, at trial Idira says "Idk she did get us stuck there we all came back alive, so doesn't mean weshould kill her" something like that

yeah nids are THE most popular (nurgle shit is also popular with girls) because they're uglycute and women like uglycute things because they're literally hard-wired to find the squashed faces of newborn babies fresh from the birth canal immediately endearing.
being literally Sarah Kerrigan is also peak female power fantasy, they don't want to BE the ultra jacked space knight in power armor like men, they want to be the Queen Bee sitting on a giant throne directing an endless army of slavishly loyal and devoted "pets" to carry out their will.

girls look at pic related and go "aww, he's smiling :3"

Wenduag is popular too tho.

if you kill her in Cumrag Idira says that.

i've loved every single one of their games immensely, so i'm not really sweating the details on this or that.
i'll just look at the game when it actually exists and decide if i want to play it. like a normal person.

I mean fuck anon, imagine you're especially susceptible to the warp and you've got an open portal to it just walking and talking and running about. Also again there's another one where the two agree to just keep their distance because they creep each other out.

Dark Heresy is all about fighting chaos
Harlequins are all about fighting chaos
We didn't get one last game.
Last game we got Craftworld and Deldar
This time we get Cosair and ______
We're staying mostly focused on one planet/system.
It's unlikely for exodites to be on this planet.
So that leaves a Harlequin by process of elimination.
Female to balance the male Corsair.

You can make decent predictions just by looking at the information presented.

I remember seeing a reddit poll that had Nyrissa first, but she wasn't winning by much

Nyrissa's romance is locked behind the esoteric secret ending, no way she was anywhere near first

Yrlietfags are the saddest fucking posters on this site, if Yrliet literally murdered the RT's family unprovoked, they'd try to justify it.

navigators being a monster to their own kind isn't even accurate, navigator houses date back PRE-DAOT, they're literally 20,000 years old as an institution by the time of 40k. Even when Warhammer was star trek bullshit pre-Old Night with humanity at the height of their power the navigators were around and important, the God-Emperor of Mankind himself was careful to avoid offending them. They're literally a 1:1 ripoff from Dune, in 40k Navigators are the oldest and most entrenched power structure short of the imperial palace and are literally considered HOLY because they can gaze upon the Emperor's Light and the Astronomicon directly.

I copied it from the party banter chart. Commorragh - Yrliet killed by RT

One of the main things people knew about Kingmaker was that you could fuck the villain and unlock a secret ending that way

I'm just saying anon, that the two of them mellow out a bit during later dialogue in act IV
I'm honestly not even sure what the point of contention was anymore. It was that everyone hated Yrliet regardless so it's okay for her to not apologize?
Honestly should be noted even Yrliet doesn't believe that. It's not that she thinks apologies are worthless, it's that in this specific instance, apologies are worthless because what she did is beyond reproach. The only reason she apologies to you is because you offer forgiveness before she even considers apologies. Her line about is to the effect of

My apologies would not soothe them, given what happened to them because of me. It's best to just let them be angry

Yeah but how many people actually experienced that romance, given that it's locked behind the secret ending? I wanted to do it myself but gave up when I learned all that I'd have to do.

Has there been a RT/DH thread on Anon Babble without shitflinging about Yrliet?

Yeah. I can understand if she fucked them but the fact that she won't even them them and they still simp for her is insane.

How did they die?

Stabbn, ya can tell by dey stab wounds and dey blud der.

Thank you doctor.

Yrlietfags are the saddest fucking posters

It's Camcucks and it's not even close. Making a marriage mod is just sad.

really hoping for a blank as a companion as a nod to bequin

Since the beta? No.
Before the beta? Yes.

it's tradition

Yeah, it's pretty obvious. It's also obvious we're getting a SM/CSM companion as well, just like we did in RT. Night Lord is all but confirmed, the question would be what the SM counterpart will be.

Your waifu is shit!

There's a step by step guide on how to do it

I am honestly more excited for Dark Heresy than RT. means i can finally make my oc acolyte psyker i made in 2016 in a thread .

I've been personally informed multiple times it is in fact Wenduafags that are the worst
Then again, it might just be a simple case of success breeds jealousy.

Rogue Trader's writing was pretty great, what are with the raving hater retards in these threads involving Owlcat

>Stabbn, ya can tell by dey stab wounds and dey blud der.

I unironically want the ability to turn to the Ogryn and ask for his opinion, and to get answers like this, but occasionally he Columbo's his way into something none of the other party members caught on to
youtube.com/watch?v=NnDe2u5M7e8

I like Idira.
But she's pretty Ride or Die for you so it's hard not to like her.

Literally the exact opposite of reality, you retard.

Gonna make another thread when this one hits 10, any ideas for OP question (that isn't waifushit or romance shit)

There are guides on how to do a lot of things, people still avoid doing them because they're annoying

Yea, everyone hate her on this ship and she hate mon'keighs in return

success breeds

The only breeding here is the one Wenduag wants from Woljif and Daeran

success

won't have your kids btw

That's just Henry cavill

I like how both were disgusted by it

Actually it seems exceedingly easy to dislike her, based on statistical data.

Honestly I find the voice acting question to be the most compelling thing to talk about, since we know very little else. The problem is that waifufags will derail every thread no matter what you do.

Your seethe doesn't change best girl winning
Winning what you say? Everything.

Yeah no shit. i lost the original portrait where the inquisitor looked similar to Heinrix

Just use Heinrix then

Repeat after me.

WILL

NOT

HAVE

KIDS

WITH

YOU

ONLY FOR DAERAN, WOLJIFF OR SAVAMALEK

The problem with idira is that the script was clearly changed a hundred times. I got the impression that she is a cool character to have AFTER you beat the game once and all her ramblings make sense in the second play through. But it only ended up that way for like the first chapter and a half.

abelard number 1

proud of my nigga

honestly not surprised by that data, abelard and pasqal are giga bro-tier and Cassia is basically 40k Tali, it's like somebody being surprised the most popular Mass Effect squadmates are Garrus, Tali and Liara and not Jacob and Kaidan

narrative-wise

I wouldn't be surprised at all if bias from gameplay factored into that in a not insignificant manner
Trying to think of good Idira moments is probably difficult when you've got so many memories of her exploding into daemons, though I guess on top of that she explodes into daemons in narrative moments too

The only way Wenduag wins is if the KC is an Aeon and he resets time, preventing the World Wound from ever happening, so she actually gets to have a decent life.

No, imagine taking all the schizo shitposters that targeted Arueshalae, then all the fags that hated Galfrey with every fiber of their being due to her in-game fuck-ups, and then combine them with all the 40k anti-eldarfags (and pro-eldar, but anti-waifufags, like noldorfag). It's a recipe for disaster, the result being most untalkable and shitposted character Owlcat has ever made.

Marazhai is one of my favorites. Problem?

Can't. Owlcat stole my oc and now my character will be called a heinrix clone

The retarded ass le lawful good paladin REDDIT fanart is so retarded because the faggot who made it has multiple points where he's like.

okay so right here you need to ignore your roleplay and let Wenduag be a murderous cunt :)

yrliet should have been male and marzipan should have been a girl
you fix a good 90% of the shitposting about RT with this change

Investigation
Tracking/memory - Kroot
Ballistics knowledge/Tracking - Catachan
Psionics - Corsair
Autopsy/Crime scene reproduction - Doktor
Intimidation - Ogryn

Combat
Sniping/Melee - Kroot
Squad Tactics//Pointman - Catachan
Psionics - Corsair
Combat Medicae - Doktor
Melee Brute//Vehicle sized support weapons - Ogryn
Honestly this is a pretty good squad all on its own.

Idira is dead last on pretty much every statistical data point you care to find for the game, though.

dark skinned companions at the bottom

What, pray tell, did they mean by this?

Surprised people rated Jae that low, honestly.

LGBTQBRAAP ogryn with psychic abilities and 150 IQ quip making capabilities?

That is a very specific statement. You made it purposefully, deliberately. That implies it actually exists, that someone made that purposefully, deliberately.
Story time?

Who cares though. I still like her

Muh magical hymen restoration

She still remembers every single cock she's ever taken. Just because she is genuinely repentant, and has been revitalized, doesn't change the fact that she has fucked more people than every other owlcat companion combined.

Surprised? She's ugly

Another retard incapable of following the conversation. We're talking about opinions pre-Comorragh, mouthbreather.

Why? She's ugly.

Owlcat stole my oc

Should I replay Alan Wake?

Desna could never wash away the meatball stench.

what a heartthrob

Abelard is a cool dude, and one of their best characters, but rating him #1 in terms of narrative is retarded. Dude has very little going for him narrative-wise

Retard its about CUmrag and her betrayal. YES her betrayal.

virgin body with the experience of a sex goddess

Arue won, bigly

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My good gameplay Idira moment is her one-shotting pretty much any boss because by the time her turn begins she has gorillion psy rating

Read the question, it's not just narrative, it's also dialogue, interjections, etc. Abelards introductions alone give him the deserved top spot there.

Wendu's loyalty and romance path plots are schizophrenic, but there is a genuine arc with a satisfying ending.
Camcucks are eternally seething, because her endings are:
- tries to stab you, a mythic powered demigod because she likes stabbing people, this fails horribly, to no one's surprise
- leaves you to stab other people because she's bored
- leaves you to stab other people because she's bored, then returns because she wants to stab you, this fails horribly, to no one's surprise (true romance ending btw)

He's just your most loyal companion. He would never betray you or abandon you.

You should learn to read or develop short term memory beyond two sentences if you wish to contribute to a conversation.

Well, I'm gonna do it instead then. If I can't have Jimmy as my husband in DH. I will BE Jimmy the Husband in DH

Don't forget that the cucks you at the brothel.

Argenta at the top but no romance

Turns out everything is bullshit

Too bad they stop immediately after act 2 and he never introduces you again. There's really zero reason to bring him anywhere after act 3.

Are you okay lil bro? No one talked about her being a virgin

Funny that Marazhai is the better murder hobo romantically

That's good because I don't want kids

You bring him along because he earned it in the first two acts, obviously.

The game in general falls apart after Act 2, it's not specific to Abelard.

I know, and the question is retarded. Narrative should have been seperate from what is basically likability. But i'm sure they knew that retards on leddit and discord wouldn't know the difference between narrative and having good zingers, so they combined them.
Narrative-wise Pasqal, Cassia, Heinrix are the best.

Cause she's hot and a SoB. None care about her as a character.

Well it helps that her character is barely elaborated on in the game

He already knows it's true so he brings it up unprompted, he subconsciously consneeded

after act 2

Prologue to Act 2 is 70% of the game.

again

Yeah, because he already introduced you. Also his companion quest.

Aruechads have mindbroken Cuckniggers by doing nothing and winning. and Arue is virgin tho. you can't prove she is not

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And fish stops being a lie detector, and Idira stops seeing the future. This applies to everyone not just Abelard

There's really zero reason to bring him anywhere after act 3

My reason is that I like him

it's a bit more complicated if you're actually interested in pathfinder cosmology.
Outsiders themselves are made from the concentrated soulstuff of dead mortals, depending on how they're made they could be a single powerful mortal's soul or even the mixed planar essence of multiple petitioners, especially in the abyss and hells where it's kill-or-be-killed and demons and devils are in a constant murderfest to rise above. So you've got the person(s) who Arue was in life before being damned to the abyss, then you've got the resulting Succubus who eventually ascended the ranks of the abyss from lowly Dreugh, THEN you've got all the shit that Demon did.
But Outsiders have no separation between Soul and Body, they're one and the same, which is why resurrecting them via normal means doesn't work and they can be killed for good when not summoned to the material plane.
What Desna did, which shouldn't even BE possible, but she's literally James Jacobs' bisexual manic pixie dream waifu and overpowered Cthulhu Mythos Elder God-but-chaotic-good-slut9which is ALSO why she's the only deity in the universe allowed to have her Divine realm ON THE MATERIAL PLANE as an ACTUAL PHYSICAL STAR in Cynosure when every other god is barred from direct influence), is take an Outsider whose body and soul are one and the same and made from liquid planar quintessence and physical Evil and Chaos, and literally remake her at the metaphysical level not just no longer as a Demon made of pure Chaos and Evil, but ALSO change her from a being with no separate body and soul, to giving her a new mortal body AND a new mortal SOUL (which is VERY MUCH "not normally supposed to happen or be possible" as an act of literal deus ex machina.

So it's not as simple a question as "if you take a girl and grow her a new hymen is she a virgin?", it's more like a Ship of Theseus situation, twice over. In a cyberpunk setting, if you upload memories of being fucked to a robot, is that robot not a virgin?

James Jacobs' bisexual manic pixie dream waifu

Owlcat did this, not him, and they also did it in Kingmaker with Tristian

Who cares

Everyone except you.

Owlcat did this, not him, and they also did it in Kingmaker with Tristian

no, anon, Arueshalae as redeemed succubus is from the original Wrath of the Righteous Adventure Path, and Desna as the stupidly overpowered manic pixie dream girl waifu of Pathfinder's setting author is a decades long affair at Paizo. There's like a dozen similar situations across various APs as well, it's just blatantly James Jacobs' fetish to try and fix bad girls

I know, but she doesn't become a mortal there, she just stops being a demon

it's just blatantly James Jacobs' fetish to try and fix bad girls

he sounds based

The post was in response to her being called a tradwife. That usually implies virginity.