Serious Discussion about FromSoft Future

and is giving all the worst signs of >modern gaming.

It doesn't even have microtransactions. Just kys you alarmfagging retard

Duskblood looks bad and im not talking about the switch exclu or the multi, but the game itself looks heavily uninspired.

mid game

because it's a bossrush multiplayer and not a zanzibart forgive me slogfest

Let's be serious here, those mixed reviews come from idiots that can't get past the dog

i see a lot of people complaining they cant solo the team game. It's just a bunch of people not being okay with change.

I'm more in line that the people who make these threads are all homosexuals.

yeah but think of how many game devs are weak and inept

>>>>>>>>>>and is giving all the worst signs of >modern gaming.

no DEI

no microtrannysactions

no battlepass

no premium currency

no timed exclusive bullshit

Other than being predominantly online, it has none of the cancer plaguing modern gaming.

people said the same thing about Bethesda and Fallout 76

This thread was made by a falseflagging doomfag that just wanted to doompost for the sake of doomposting. Nothing to see here.

Not too worried, we will wait and see, if they come out with similar shit, then yeah

this

instead of us getting deeper, more thoughtful gameplay of soulsborne we now have fortnite fag shit. Gone are the days of dark souls and bloodborne. From is now just going to produce trash to please investors.

One of the last good game devs has finally fallen. AI needs to hurry up so we can start making our own shit

Which is even more retarded when the game can be soloed

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FromSOFT

UbiSOFT

The signs are there, you only have yourself to blame if you didn't notice them.

They have not figured how to make npcs walk around the worldmap.

Not YET you fucking idiot. Are you unable to use pattern recognition?

moonmoon told me that the game is good so im gonna say the game is good (I dont play video games)

So why are you sperging out when none of retarded shit has happened yet? Calm down, anon.

Yeah, they'll add in the microtrannysactions in 2 weeks, trust the plan.
You fucking retards are unbelievable.

fromslop was carried by an aura of prestige and mystery and nightreign just swept all that

You are an obnoxious faggot who should kill yourself. I can find videos of people beating every difficult game and make it look easy online, you can not compare people who play video games for a living with average people.

This isn't even the worst game from has released since demon's souls.

Nah, fromsoft is carried by making fun uncompromising games.

So why are you sperging

Because they're making Fortnite clones, moron. From there to microtransactions there's only one step.

You are sperging out over quite literally nothing.

This reads like a Bethesda copium post.

There is not a single thing in nightreign that is shared with fortnite.

67%

Far too high, literal trash game.

Yeah, you know. other than the shrinking storm and how fallen teammates crawl around on all fours waiting for you to revive them. Not like fortnite at all

Anyone have the image of Fromsoft fans becoming less interested after each games release?

I'm having a blast thougheverbeit
too bad there's absolutely ZERO art of the best character

forknife invented circles and reviving teammates

Zoomies have ruined humanity.

correct, it is not like fortnite at all, I suggest you try to play fortnite, and actually try to play nightreign. You know, instead of complaining about games you havent played.

I think Nightreign is fine as it is, just needs more content like two more maps. That's why it was priced at $40, but really it should've been $20. From knows the demand was there.

Fromtrannies still being deluded

lol can't wait for Duskbloods to also show itself as garbage but without steamies trying hard to defend it

Duskbloods is going to be epic, we're finally getting a pvp-focused fromsoft game. I'm glad they're abandoning open world slop and trying something new.

I wouldn't hate Nightreign if it wasn't prices so high, it should be $25 I feel like I got fucking scammed with the $40 price tag

FROM finally makes a different style of game from their old, tired formula

retards seethe and want to kill themselves

Why are you fags like this? Do you hate change that much?

Why are you poor? I spent 40 bucks on dinner, so the price seems fair.

40 dollars is like an hour and a half of work for most people. How is it not worth its price point?

Make a different experience

Do it poorly

I wanted a good rougelike/lite game just as Namco promises but its not. Do you defend every bad rougelike that comes out on steam? Or is it only okay when From does it?

Anon Babble is populated with NEETs that have never worked a day in their lives.

My friends are annoying me, they keep dying and I have to keep getting them up, but eventually when they are both downed with three bars and there's just no way. I should just solo the boss at that point.

25$

When it has less content than 15$ indie games

Should be 10 bucks

It's a videogame that has infinite copies and isn't necessary to live

Because it's a giant asset flip reusing the same enemies, items, and spells with the only difference being the map layout
It's alright, but holy shit I got way more enjoyment out of cheaper games

"only difference is the map layout"

So you havent played the game. Understood.

None of the people bitching about the game have played it. Welcome to Anon Babble.

One map

All they are promising is Paid DLC of enemies and bosses

Jesus christ and people still dick suck this company lol

and is giving all the worst signs of >modern gaming.

In what fucking retard, retard? If anything it's even less accessible than elden ring, which already tells normalfags to stick it where the sun doesn't shine

fromcucks are cultists

It's a risk of rain clone you dumb faggot

The game is le bad because it's not easy to the average Joe

From the studio that brought you death simulator until you memorize patterns and peek into the future to kill the things killing you for hours: the complete trilogy + spinoffs

Buddy, why are you sperging like that wishing death on people just because you are not good enough to play a game that sports high difficulty as a selling point?

1:1 Shit copied from Fortnite

Ugh, how is this Fortnite bro?

What is your endgame? What is the point of trying to defend FromSoft bad decisions? Do you know that if you like the company the correct decision is trying to avoid further mistakes in the future instead of perpetuating them, right? You're not just a mindless drone, right?

Its amazing just how shit this game is, barely any content that even a bunch of Fromshill on youtube are having a tough time selling it.

Anti-From trannies are schizo retards who can simultaniously believe that From is bad both for increasingly catering to normalfags and for making the games increasingly more challenging and mechanically complex, as though both could be true at the same time

I have beaten every souls game at sl1, you seem to have missed the point. The game is not designed for people to solo. That is not a problem. Turning around and saying "skill issue if they cant solo it" is just contributing to the problem of people thinking they should solo it. The game is BETTER playing with other people objectively, anyone soloing the game is missing the entire point of the game.

Now please, Kill yourself.

It should be fucking free and I still wouldn't play it.

this pve ARPG roguelike is totally a rip off of this pvp battleroyale FPS bro

Kill yourself. Literally not even close to the same genre

Fromfags are schizos who trash other companies for making the same garbage yet its literally okay when they release something just as bad. If this was made by anyone else, like Capcom, it would be eternally mocked.

Conceptually it's a strong concept. Although unfortunately the pace of the expeditions are too fast. I've sincerely never played a game as break neck as this before. Every single second must be spent working to achieve something. Running to defeat a boss, running to get a flask, running to clear an evergaol. I can only stomach 2 expeditions before getting a headache.

Be real for a second, what makes a group of people act like this?

Did the entire game studio staff shat in your cereal or what?

Ok, so you're just a LARPer and a shill who's being disingenuous. No point in following this discussion then.

But why would I kill myself over a game?
Or rather, why would I kill myself over some ridiculous opinion of a game on the internet?
Are you sure you are ok?

Are you sure you are not just lying about beating all those games to try and justify your ridiculous behavior and beliefs?

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Its nintendo fags made that it isn't on their system. They abhor anything popular they can't enjoy on their fisher price tablets

What I find most baffling is that they think they can convince other people of their own mutually exclusive idiotic beliefs.

the only good thing about nightreign is that we'll never see clones of it because it's so shit and short lived.

Honestly, right now is the best time a developer has to overthrowing Fromsoft with a proper souls like game with some budget.

also, isn't it ironic, that the berserk guy died is the same time miyazaki ran out of ideas and inspiration? hehe

I like a multiplayer game which restricts chat and voice and force players to learn implicit convention and conveniences. This has been Souls formula since Demons Souls. I am one of those PS3 demon souls veteran. New comers need to either adopt this convention or not. There is no other option. Complaining that it is 2025, and no voice and chat is extremely low IQ take. Those reviews don't matter.

Its funny how I see some use the whole "This game obviously wasn't made for you!" when I would have loved a genuine effort into the rougelike whatever genre if Fromsoft really tried. But its just so half baked and at times antithetical to what makes a good rougelike.

Its like they saw many popular ones and threw all these ideas in a blender along with Elden Ring assets and just thought that was good enough.

Stop being such a retarded discordtranny holy shit.

link the ongbal guy that makes all this shit look retarded easy.

Nah I'm getting too old to play this.

Seething fromtrannies

Based OP

I hate being the bearer of bad news but those are not my hands, perhaps you need to open up to someone about something? No one not contemplating suicide themselves would have a video like that as readily available.

serious discussion

no trolling

thread ended up with shazam trolls and fromdrone trolls

great thread

all the worst signs of >modern gaming.

post 1 ONE UNO rogue-like soulslike, i'll wait.

WHY ARE YOU ENJOYING THIS SHIT ARGH I'M FUCKING DYING

you ok buddy?

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF AAA

what?

UMAD? HEHE I WIN

shazam trolls and fromdrone trolls

Aren't they all just the same autists though? Just some sharty thirdies that cope with their own site being such dead dogshit that the only engagement they get is to come here and be a hyper shill or overtly contrarian. Otherwise no one will even be bothered to reply to whatever retarded thing they are trying to talk about.

mixed

should be negative or overwhelming negative desu

The first red flag was ds3, then elden ring. They're cooked. Too much success leads to lazyness and a 100% focus on profit. Its just sad when you realize DS2 was the last good soulsborne game.

Its not bad but nowhere near worth 40 bucks

Shadow of the Erdtree was terrible

Elden Ring was mediocre too.

Not an argument.

SAAR PLEASE REDEEM THE FORTNITE

I still don't get this because King Allant's son does that the entire time in Demon's Souls.

I mean, From was always a 6/10 slop studio that hit it big in 2011 because any 7/10 game that wasn't one of your usual suspects was 12/10 in 2011. Their track record was rewritten post-Dark Souls by the new generation.
Them developing multiple very playable, servicable and lukewarm games in a row is just them doing their usual thing.

turn

Bro they're been rehashing Armored Core for a long fucking time. Plus how is Nightreign the flag for you? The Ubisoftness should've been apparent since DS2

The speed will probably be the first thing that is nerfed. It's clear the guy Miyazacki let direct this had autistic tunnel vision on the games pacing.

Same, giga game, bro

Honestly its unironically better than elden ring

it started with bloodborne and trick weapons. The half baked insight mechanic. Healing potions being non-replenishable. The randomized copy pasted end game dungeons.

And people like peeve and oroboro (self proclaimed og souls gamers) will defend this because le cant criticize souls makers

What's the issue?
Honestly I think it's smart of them to rehash assets. It's good business..

The more from makes games that aren't trying to be souls again the more its fanbase exposes themselves as being incapable of stomaching anything that isn't the equivalent to vanilla ice cream. They cant even stand variations and different styles of souls games without freaking the fuck out if it dares step one inch out of the status quo they expect. Erdtree makes you explore and it's shit, nightreign doesn't make you explore and it's shit. Bloodborne is 'too easy' now and it's shit and sekiro is 'too hard' and it's shit. They won't even try armored core because they can't even fathom SciFi. Frankly I don't give a shit what appeals to souls fans anymore, it's clear the fanbase have lost their sense of taste. Souls used to run counter to modern trends by embracing difficulty and rigid game mechanics. To plays souls was an acquired taste like pathologic or rain world. Now it's fans might as well be playing call of duty for how much change they are willing to see between entries.

So anyway yeah I'm enjoying nightreign a lot.

Saw some streamer play it

Guy waits for this stupid circle to encircle a specific spot on the field

Goes there

Fucking Nameless King just spawns and kills everyone

Like they just ripped the model from DS3 and didn't bother to improve it, even clips through a bunch of shit

People paid 40 bucks for the equivalent of Mugen? Good lord.

le doomposting

lol

le cucktard

lmao

OMG ITS LIKE COUNTER CULTURE

In an era where every indieshitter is just making roguelites

Yeah so brave...

rollslop games were never good

can't stand variations or different styles

nightreign is literally made of 100% reused assets

Inside sources are saying they're cooking up two new elden ring spin-offs, one hero shooter and a gacha game

Hey loook its that spore dude

This anon knows the root of the anti-from soft bandwagon.

he's not wrong though, the chalice dungeon was the worst thing they did back then

this game literally boils down to who has friends and who does not, it's hilarious.

60% of the earth's population dies by the end of 2026

What will happen by the end of 2026?
A zombie apocolypse? Alien invasion? WW2?

They should get rid of the circle in favor of a proper day/night cycle. The final boss is always accessible so people can do low level challenges. A full day can be something like 10 minutes. On the night of the 3rd day, the circle then appears funneling players towards the boss. You could have world events happen more often, one per day guaranteed.

I also think that the game should let you choose a weapon at the start of an expedition, the weapon you choose would increase the odds of certain types of equipment showing up. It's really awkward playing as guardian and finding 4 staves and no great shield. Some something should be done about that

Yeah, how dare they make a genre of game they never made as opposed to another fucking soulslike again again again.
Nobody who plays this style of game cares Triforce heroes and Harmony of despair are almost identical in their reuse and people loved those games.

I know, they were meh but I did them anyway because the bosses were worth it and it gave me a re-match with paarl that was actually good because he died too fast the first time.

Even at their worst it wasn't terrible, but snoy have a narrative that BB was the last true From game and everything after it was bad.

shame they didn't make a good different genre of game

But Fallout 76 was like the tenth bad Bethesda game in a row, it came as a surprise to no one

After disabling EAC and finding out that damage actually does scale pretty well as a solo, I shan't be going back to online. It's so much better of an experience.

I for one look forward to their next real action RPG because after all this time, they finally learnt how to make archer characters fun to play. Just a shame that they couldn't figure this out in time for shadow of the erdtree. I'd easily put another 200 hours into ER if bows worked like they do in Nightreign. Nightreign does suck though, no question about it.

By your standards. Do you play risk of rain? Left4dead? Anything remotely arcadey? Games great from where I'm standing, I feel confident in saying the people that complain about roguelite elements constantly don't even like them or have even played one, let alone a game with the tempo of risk for rain or the coordination of a versus match in left 4 dead.

yeah dude I like souls games because I like dark souls. I like dark souls games and I like demons souls and I like bloodborne and I like sekiro and I like elden ring because they're all basically dark souls with some degree of differences in combat, but overall very similar design philosophy
I also love armored core, but that's completely unrelated to dark souls, I like armored core because I like mecha games
on the other hand I don't like nightreign because it takes out all the stuff that I like about dark souls, like the level design, world design, character building rpg mechanics, lore presentation, and so on. Nightreign is just combat, and while I like souls combat because it has good animations, feels weighty and satisfying, and properly intersects with a wide variety of different playstyles and builds, it isn't really good on its own. Souls combat is really just a vehicle for your character building because it's an rpg.
So the fundamental problem with nightreign is that it doesn't at all play to the strengths of souls games because it cuts out all the stuff I enjoy in favor of strict time limits that punish exploration and render things like level design, world design, character building rpg mechanics, lore, etc., irrelevant, but also makes the whole game about combat despite the fact that the combat system is relatively barebones compared to actual action games and is really just a vehicle for the rpg mechanics.
Everyone constantly talks about how they want bloodborne 2 or sekiro 2, because these games maintained the characteristics of dark souls that are good, and primarily iterated on combat which was always mediocre. I don't think you have any idea what people like because bloodborne and sekiro and elden ring are quite mechanically different from dark souls but widely praised. But if you like nightreign it's no surprise that you don't like any of fromsoft's games from last decade, because it carries little of what made those games popular.

I don't want to play your vision of the game, but what I will agree with is that there should be "modes" rather than just one singular framework, with your descriptor also being a playable mode. I'd be fine with one singular day that is the entire length of the run where you have events popping up with variable frequency instead of multiple days, or just a mode where it's proper Risk of Rain in nature where the longer you spend in the field, the more powerful enemies become, incentivizing you to continually ramp up in a rapid pace but also to consider that peak enemy level will also be insane to overcome even if you farm the entire map.

I mean, it's a fair point to wonder why the fuck in the year of 2025 we can't have PVE multiplayer games with competent AI that can fill in for human players and make the experience fun for offline / solo play as well. Is it just lazyness by the devs? Because the technology obviously is there and has been there for a long time.

once it clicked how to play executioner and recluse ive been having alot of fun

I like rogue-lites but Nightreign isn't very good at it. Games like RoR are a constant dopamine rollercoaster that reward you with loot and upgrades where the end goal is for the player to snowball into an insanely overpowered killing machine. Nightreign doesn't do that at all, the vast majority of the loot you get is just pointless filler shit from the main game that nobody uses anyway and the permanent power upgrades are usually quite lame too, like 10% less FP cost or shit like that.

There could be a really fun rogue-lite here, but Fromsoft needs to move away from their obsession with making everything as difficult and tedious as possible and stop trying to make everything perfectly balanced. These types of games need crazy power spikes where the player feels like they just broke the game.

It will be World War 2 2: The Sequel

Anon... Duskbloods is their main upcoming game. Nightrein may be a side project, but the A team including miyazaki is working on duskbloods. It won't be until like 2030 that they release another mainline game, and that'll likely be elden ring 2 based on it's sales. Sekiro 2 will probably be 2035 at the earliest.

Tough, like No Man's Fail and Cybertrash that game is now el le redeemed by retards because they made it not broken with a patch. Fuck Internet Historian by the way.

have friends

love coop

love coop with randoms even

hate forced 60 fps

Its all so tiresome

duskbloods is slated for 2026
there will probably be a mainline game by 2028
hopefully more ac6 before that

once it clicked how to play executioner

ignore your special katana and just make a status dual wield build that applies poison/bleed/rot/frost all at once?

Anyone who bought this game is part of the problem.

I'm kinda glad that commie hbomber guy ruined that shitter's career, will never forgive him for posting that absolute bullshit sob story about Hello Games when the CEO himself said most of what he said was embellishing nonsense.

Charging $40 for what really should be a $10 DLC is just scamming you up front instead of in slices.

Duskbloods, 26
AC7, 27
Sekiro 2, 28
ER2 29

Bethesda hadn't made a good game since Morrowind. It surprised absolutely nobody who had an IQ higher than 65 that their first live service multiplayer game running on their same buggy garbage engine with netcode from Dark Age of Camelot turned out to unsurprisingly be a buggy fucking mess but this time you couldn't get fan patches, mods or use console commands to fix it because it was a live service game.

Yet it went on to make a shit ton of money thanks to those same fans lol

I agree the speed is a bit much but what could feasibly be done about it? One game is already long enough considering you only get two opportunities for downtime after each night's boss kill. Make it slower and you're looking at an hour+ commitment.

B team with Tanimura has been working on King's Field V since SOTE wrapped up. C team made Nightreign. A team is on Duskbloods. AC isn't getting revisited again until they revitalise some of the other IPs in their library.

Anon Babble no longer pretending that Magic game is real

Sad, it was funny watching retards report on that.

King's Field V

doubt

They just expanded and they have more than 2 teams now. So they will release some shit alongside their gems. They wanna be like Capcom

Like Capcom

Yikes, they can't make a good game to save their life now. But hey, they want to stretch themselves thin to make mediocre games they can do so.

I have no hopes for the Elden Ring IP ever since the DLC released, but still want to see what they come up regarding other stuff, I actually enjoyed the new AC.

Decrease the speed of the night but give an option to speed it up at the player's discretion. Alternatively have them speed up rapidly each time you kill something.

The point of the night is to cut off areas to prevent you from hoarding shit right? So just have it be a thing when you've made your choice of prey.

From has been gently declining for years, but Shadow of the Erdtree is where they suddenly went into freefall. Nightreign is them charging $40 for what should rightfully be a $10 DLC, that functions worse than free mods.

Armored Core 6 was great, I'm convinced that Yamamura is the only director with any talent left at From at the moment. The company not becoming pure dogwater is solely dependent on what he does next.

never made as opposed

This argument is so stupid
They should make a fucking movie-game with 100 cutscenes because according to you that's new? Dumb

Theyve been releasing dogshit en masse since 2003

Same the base game of Elden Ring was alright but I couldn't care less about anything that came after. Armored Core 6 was pretty kino though so I'd love to see them put more love into that ip.

waiting for the next King's Field and Shadow Tower

It's just a cashgrab game. Remember that they have contracts with Bandai Namco, and they obviously want to ride on ER's success for easy profit.
You can safely ignore this and that Switch 2 game, because it's obvious these are side games that keep money flowing in while Miyazaki is cooking the next big thing (which I really hope won't be open world again).
Also I've played Nightrreign for nearly 12 hours yesterday. It's very fun if you have friends to play with.

lol how is todd so short

FromSoft has been releasing slop since DS3. You retards are always slow to catch up when devs start lazing around.

Don't make me tap the sign

There is a potential in rogue-like souls-game or coop battle royal, but NR looks so lame. They can do better and maybe NR could lead to something better.

since DS3

off by only a few decades

I wouldn't have minded as much if the game actually worked

they already made kings field 5 it was called dark souls 2