FUCKING HAPPENING!!!

gods I'm going to cry if this shit takes off again when nvidia 5000 series come

no, I don't think I will.

24H mining on a high end CPU

3$ on the mining start when it's most profitable

alright then, have fun

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I blame states for letting it reach this point

I thought people used gpus for mining?

under optimal conditions you spend 200 days mining 24/7 before you even break even, and that's only counting the cost of the graphics card and not any of the other parts in the build

under optimal conditions you make $1095 a year doing this

Bitcoin is so pre-covid centric.
Move the fuck on, boomer. We're back to fucking people who want to buy houses over again.

Different "coins" have different mining needs

Total PC Gaming Death

multiply this by the number of GPUs you have

realize when it's all over, you can list those GPUs on ebay and get most/all of your initial cost back

chances are you got the GPUs for dirt cheap because you know a guy and have a deal on electricity

So if you get 100 GPUs, that's an extra $10k a year for doing n o t h i n g with zero risk.
It was never for poorfags, but it's free money for richfags.

Third worlders would live like a king on that

I hate cryptofags so much

There was one that used big HDDs too.
Then people cried when it's no longer profitable and can't sell off their shit

mfw bought a 4090 400 dollars cheaper than the current price in my country

i mean it was still an incredibly silly purchase but i can play everything that comes out, hell im thinking of downgrading from this 4k oled tv to a 1440p 480hz oled when they come out and just use the tv separately, gaining a decent amount of frames in the process

also just about done with computers as an entertainment thing, i need to start studying something because my life is going nowhere at this point and i hear data science tensor libraries or someshit is the new gig

Beauty and god is not real

However, this shitty made up currency which value comes from made up scarcity is real!!!

What a fake and gay world we live in, when will people have had enough?

It does not worth it. Even before btc has special hw for it. ETH did used gpu but they now use POS and other shitcoins do not deserve to be even mentioned.

$3 for 24 hours

7950X

What about the 7950X3D? It's pricier, but mining doesn't benefit from the 3D V-cache

nothingburger.

It's astounding how poor AMDfags are.
They're not broke.
They're poor.

>realize when it's all over, you can list those GPUs on ebay and get most/all of your initial cost back

No one is buying second-hand mining GPUs at full price or even close to it.

So if you get 100 GPUs, that's an extra $10k a year for doing n o t h i n g with zero risk.

The risk is the bubble bursting before you break even.

Why is mining even a thing? Who decided that the creation of a virtual currency should be tied to wasting electricity generating it? How is the very notion not outlawed as a contributor to climate change?

i dont need to update for anothers 10 years

I hope bitcoin goes to 100k when the 5000 series is released.
No I don't own any bitcoin, I just want to see anon cry.

mining crypto

with CPU

xD

No one is buying second-hand mining GPUs at full price or even close to it.

he doesn't know

Look up any card on ebay and you'll see how many of them sold.
People ARE buying crypto GPUs. And if you buy used, 99% it's a crypto dropoff.

The risk is the bubble bursting before you break even.

If the bubble bursts, you just turn off your rack. The money you already made doesn't magically undo itself out of your wallet. You can then turn it back on when things get good again. Or you can just sell your GPUs and get your money back.

That's exactly what happened when bitcoin crashed last year. Hell, people made MORE money from that because used 4090s are selling for more now than they were before.

so what are we expecting with the next batch of CPUs though? like the 8000(or i heard itll actually be 9000 and 8 is for the budget laptop cpus)
whats gonna be the big leap, i got a 7600x because its fine for me and ill just updoot later on when the new stuff comes out/if i start this dev course

Thank God I prepared for this, or well more or less, I have 4 graphics cards in case of emergency (GTX 1050TI, RX 580, RTX 2060 and an RTX 3070) I will see if I buy one more like an RX 6900 or an RX 7800

Bruh I just looked at pricing. 2k for the newest line. I can afford it, but it'd hurt. I guess my 1080ti will just have to last a little longer

Why is mining even a thing?

Chinks cheating the system

Crypto could disappear tomorrow and the 5090 will still be scalped to high hell. You will NOT get one for under 150% MSRP even after the 6090 launches three years from now.
This is intentional and by design.

I already have a 7950X3D, I'm good for now.

The mining shit was already over by the time the 4090 released, nobody bought 4090s en-masse to mine. The last mining wave used Ampere-era and earlier cards. You act like you're very well informed for a fucko who doesn't even know what hardware was used to mine and then got sold off.

If etherium can still be mined and goes up to like $8000 or something then maybe

But since that coin went proof of stake you can't use a GPU to mine anymore I think

it's another Chia coin

damn, I wanted one for ai videos....

GOY THERE'S ANOTHER SHORTAGE SO UPGRADE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

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I hope bitcoin is banned and every last one of them forcibly deleted from existence.

Remember when everyone said to buy HDD/SDD before next cryptocurrency boom like a year ago?

looks like I bought all my parts to finally update from my 5gen intel and my GTX980 at the right time.

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name one game that requires more than a 5800x3D

This is something thats always amused me about crypto mining. You'd earn the same amount of cash working a mcjob for like 2 or 3 weeks in the amount ofcrypto they make mining in a year

cryptofucks managed to do what nobody else could
knock the wind out of pc gamers sails and screwing up the ability to self-build/upgrade
I'm so glad I lucked out an upgraded shortly before all the craze took off initially. I don't have the absolute latest and greatest, but I can pretty much run everything very well and without spending a ridiculous amount of money.

Everyone was like "NEW BOOM HAPPENING" when bitcoin hit 73k last week, but its back down to 67k already. Cryptofags are the absolute worse.

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Giving a shit about Crypto in Anno Domini 2011+13

lmao
If you didn't buy Bitcoin when it was sub $1 what even is the point of trying to get into it now? Nothing is ever going to blow up like that again.

To even consider it I'd need about

Bought a new computer yesterday, epic

Why does cryptocurrency seem like one of the most Jewish pyramid schemes ever conceived, yet is hailed as some sort of ultimate intangible freedom money?

physically working labor

vs

flipping a switch and literally never looking at or thinking about it again

I'm never getting a fucking AMD anything ever again, fuck these stupid pajeets they can't make drivers or firmware or even software updates for shit holy fuck I'm mad. Even their ftpm shittery caused me endless grief because they fucked even that up

What's the point of these bitcoins and shit? It serves ZERO purpose and only fucks up the world by making people use resources for no reason to generate them.
How did the Jews get away with this?

BTC has wild price swings constantly. You’ll fomo at 500k

Imagine you want to send money to other countries. It’s usually a hellscape of bank transfers and regulations and the rules are different literally everywhere. With BTC it takes 5 minutes and no govt can stop you ever

how long is your neck....

I made over $1000 off a $10 dogecoin buy just to make my bros laugh years ago, then used $10 of the $1000 to buy 2355427 Shibacoins. Even if it never goes up I still made $990 off a meme to make my bros laugh. Crypto is funny when you treat it like gambling (Never put in more than you willing to lose) and for me that $10.

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you will never be able to buy a xx90 series to make AIslop faster

the porn has fallen, billions must goon

Also it’s great for transferring wealth from boomers to young people

Money is just paper
Gold is just rock
Currency intrinsically has no actual value. The reason people kill for rocks and paper is because everyone unanimously agreed its worth something for no reason other than it being convenient for trade.

Your government has a monopoly on both paper and rocks. If you could introduce a third currency, you could outbank the banks. But in order to do that, you have to convince everyone that your third worthless thing is actually convenient for trade just like paper and rocks.

Bitcoin is the first time we've managed to do that in recent history.

Money has no real value either chud

Imagine you want to send money to other countries

Why the fuck would anyone normal without nefarious intent want to ever do that?

this is very common if you are an evrobvll

Don't you get raped by capital gains taxes if you turn that BTC into USD

Nothing has real value minus air, water, and food, but at least fiat and gold literally fucking exist unlike crypto.

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How the FUCK would the IRS know?

I live in The Netherlands, the most dogshit tightest cunt country ever. You want an old second hand GTX 1080 I can guarantee you cunts will sell that clapped out card for more than it's original MRSP. No cheap GPUs or sales ever for me. I hope my current card never dies. I ain't paying scalper prices on top of a fucking gauged out and taxed to fuck price.

....and the fuck is the endgame of these digital numbers any different from that?

durr decentralized!

So was fucking gold when it was all in the ground.

What's the end game of paper money?
What's the end game of shiny rocks?

if a third worlder can afford a 4090 he is already living like a king
t. third worlder that get paid in dollars

No. Still using my GTX 960 until it burns down.

Rich cunts controlling useful masses

Find a friend or relative that's traveling to a cheaper country, buy it there, then bring it back with you.

i would unironically sell you my old card for like 50 bucks if it hadn't have shat itsself which forced me to upgrade

not to mention the electricity cost

Wasting electricity is a thing ,but the ressources wasted on mining rig is even worse.

Do you just play like gold games only, I have so much trouble playing modern shooters with my newphews with my 980. Like average FPS is fine, but man those frame times and 1% lows kill me.

every single crypto fags should be hanged in public

Bitcoin mining is bad for the environment like cars in 1910 were. You had to start somewhere

this, theres heaps of videos of those japanese(korean?) stores that you just walk into and they somehow have so much shit for decent prices
same with shit like pokemon and stuff idk what it is about those places

tfw just upgraded everything by December/2023, when the prices were low

I hope you anons are not missing your window of opportunity. We all said we would upgrade when the prices got low, and that already happened. They are about to rise to the skies again. Upgrade while you can.

ROFL, you better declare your bitcoin/cryto when doing the taxes or you're in for an awakening with IRS.

the most dogshit tightest cunt country ever

have you ever heard of argentina?

He's asking how can cryptocurrency not fall to the same fate as other forms of currency

980 struggling

graphics are still the same

(((they))) have really done a number on gaming

This, they're paying attention now. It’s not 2013 anymore

You're not thinking this from an investor perspective.

It's $3 for 24 hours of mining. You are profiting $90 per month. And the CPU costs $700 in retail.

In short, it only takes 8 months to recoup the costs, thus making that top tier CPU essentially free. This is enough incentive for ANYONE to mine with it, even casual users with no interest in accruing profits.

I'm very jealous

yeah. places likely coinbase are required to nark you out to the government so the Irs already knows

he doesn't just dig a hole in the ground and find the free wires

No one is buying second-hand mining GPUs at full price or even close to it.

These GPUs are actually great if you are looking to buy second-hand, but yes, obviously don't pay full price for it.

Why the fuck would anyone normal without nefarious intent want to ever do that?

dollar bills and gold coins? Why the fuck would anyone normal without nefarious intent want to barter with those instead of the grain you farmed or the tools your carpented?

All forms of currency fail when the value of said currency can fluctuate and essentially relies upon itself, and bitcoin is the absolute worst in this regard.
Absolish all currency, go back to trade and barter.

Guys,

Listen

There's another craze and its been a thing for a while but people aren't willing to get into it because its a lot of work but the payoff is pretty good apparently its $10-$11 an hour

its called a job

Can you name a job I can fire and forget that'll generate me money without having to actually do anything?
Genuinely asking.

10 to 11 dollars an hour couldn't even support my bills let alone rent

Me on the left

Can't the creator of the cryptos just add more currency to their accounts?

If you buy scam coins, yes

Entrepreneurship.

At the height of ethereum I was able to basically make enough for my 3080 to pay for itself and a bit extra. I doubt it will ever get that good again.

Gold coins is easy because it was pretty and rare and you had to use actual labor to get it.
Dollar bills used to be a certificate for said gold, but we all know how that turned out.
Shitcoin is just skipping the middleman of a tangible rare thing entirely.

Plenty of upper level positions, yes. You just need to work hard for ~5-10 years to get them.

??? because they can see into every bank account? and the banks report EVERY income to your bank account to the IRS?

Me on the right

Landlord.

No, every bit of the currency requires mathematical proof of its legitimacy. Solving the mathematical equations necessary to prove you own a certain piece of currency is "mining".

Do none of these faggots have to pay an electricity bill?

being italian

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*acthualy*

The point of "money" in general is to ease trading. Before it, you had to bring your sheep to trade for those potatoes. That's not scalable.

what about the electric bill?

They calculate profit after the electricity bill. But I know many people mine without electricity costs because they run their mining nests on the local library or so on.

lmfao

Profitability calculators put .... at around $3, *after subtracting energy cost involved in running the chip*

Good, scaling is what got us into this shit

Who stands to benefit from the subjective concept of beauty being deified in the same way that value is by rich people? All it would serve to do is hold down a new lower class, who instead of lacking wealth lack whatever society defines as beauty.

Every spanish public worker is like this

Would say most games were playable (on minimum) until a couple of years ago, with the exception of some horribly bad optimized games (example, Escape from Tarkov).
UE5 is definitely no-go. It runs, but badly. But so far there isn't any game with it worth an upgrade.

No, they are 'hooked' to somebody else lines rent free. Else it wouldn't be worth it mining.

No, because it's decentralized. That's the point.
Valve can add or remove games to your Steam account because they own the servers.
Your bank can technically change the numbers on your bank account because it's their servers. You just have to trust that they don't, and they have to trust they won't get sued for it, but nothing is physically stopping them.

To change a value on a blockchain, you need a majority of the ledger holders (51%+) to agree to the change.
It's possible, but good luck convincing that many people to unanimously agree to the same change.
Of course, it's not that hard to do so if there aren't a lot of ledgers. Which is why for this shit to work, you need a fuckload of people using it and believing in it.

But it has to be created and made up from something in the first place, and the entire system designed from somewhere.
So can't the creators just go "yeah now this mathematical equation will generate 100000x more coins for me this time"

and to think years ago I was mining many bitcoins per day to get a stupid hat on platform racing 2, totally unaware of their value

If you don't look at the state of the world and realize something has gone horribly wrong strictly because of our monetary systems, then you live in an alternate reality.

You'd earn the same amount of cash working a mcjob for like 2 or 3 weeks i

dude what? at min wage, you get at best, 2k after taxes a month. thats with full time. so they need to work for five months to make 10k.

ftpm

Serves you right for using the garbage that is W11.

I hate cryptoshit so much the words to describe it haven't been invented yet.

I have a 1060. Price isn't really a concern but I don't want to buy a retard card for way too much and overkill it. What should I get?

Is it just me or is the entire Bitcoin push so unbelievable Jewish?
I still remember during the initial hype when they added Bitcoin ATM's everywhere and pizza machines you could buy pizza from with bitcoins.

Everything about bitcoin feels so fake and is clearly pushed by (((them)))

have friend/family who live elsewhere

want to send them money

Retard.

Just flip a switch

You'd probably make more money not buying the graphics card and just doing something like buying a high interest bond. Both take years just to earn something.

Hope it dies down, waiting until 2025 or 2026 to upgrade since A.I shit is getting major upgrades every 6 months.

Coin farms use generated electric (Hydro, Solar or old coal mine).

If you only want to game on it buy amd. Then again if ray tracing and frame gen /dlss is something that you want use definetly go Nvidia even compared to FSR 3 they still a level above.

NTA but they said $1095 a year, not $10k

That is possible, it is called premine, instamine etc, but you can only do this if you program the currency with the possibility of premine/instamine in mind from the getgo.

Many altcoins do this.

The most traded currencies are serious projects that were not created with that possibility. Today the creators can't instamine even if they wanted to.

Just buy a console lol

Is the fact that a cryptocurrencies value basically tied to whatever currency is currently in circulation in reality a fatal flaw in this whole plan?
It feels like people are putting the cart before the horse, we need to abolish the current monetary system or any new form is just another branch of the current one.

I had an AMD in the past and it was the worst experience I ever had, even if it was over 10 years ago. Prefer nvidia to just stay consistent

KILL CRYPTO BROS
BEHEAD CRYPTO BROS
ROUNDHOUSE KICK CRYPTO BROS INTO THE CONCRETE

No. The idea is that you mine the crypto then you HODL it until it blows up in value then you find some retard to buy your bags before the rugpull.

this is how PSCHADS won.

Why are you stuck in 2019?

Sure, no problem with that. I also have a strong preference for NVIDIA cards. But they are so dominant that their prices are becoming silly.

anon <3

ROUNDHOUSE KICK CRYPTO BROS INTO THE CONCRETE

How would that even work?

My 5700x Could last untill all this Mining boom go away.

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This will surely feee us from the corrupt monetary system and everyone will be rich and topple elite society!!1

There are no mining boom faggots. Jeez, all the crypto that have the popularity to move the market are either Pos or have specialized HW for it. Do not let marketers scare you into buying. Fucking hell.

I'm stuck in the year where people only accept government currencies on a mass scale.

I built a modest PC last September for around $900
I cheaped out on the GPU (non-XT 6700) but got a beefy mobo with 32gb of DDR5 ram and an i7 12700K. This should last me another decade at least.

The reason why crypto is tied to US dollars is because people use US dollars.
As long as any two currencies exist and are actively being used by society at large, they will be tied to one another.
And the reason we compare bitcoin to US dollars instead of, I don't know, fucking Brazilian reals is because USD is currently the only currency that matters.
Every other currency in the world is also tied to US dollars.

If Cryptocurrency entire purpose was to be an alternative currency you could use, why did they tie the entire "mining" shit into it that allows you to get the currency from basically nothing?

It works for drug lords and people involved in international crime living in third world countries.

Its definitely not getting to the point where it did before, the first craze was the last craze. Its just a giant scam, the only people that made money from the entire ordeal were people holding onto crypto for over a literal decade.

Everyone that tried to get into it after either got burned or BARELY made any money worth while.
It still amazes me that morons are trying to sell their obviously mining gpu rtx 20 series and 30 series cards for MSRP on Ebay though.

30xx series or 40xx series? and which one? i heard 4000 cards were terrible for some reason but no clue why

bitcoin used cpu at early days, for how long until mining offload into gpu?

qubic already dump kek.

If Cryptocurrency entire purpose was to be an alternative currency you could use

Bitcoin got close to achieving this a few years back but all crypto is just techbros gambling these days

You can't have a set amount of money. A current amount of inflation is necessary for any economy. See: every currency ever made.

I am on 5800x3d and probably will for another 5 years.

Only 8GB of VRAM is horrible value, and it tanks the card performance, specially when current gen games come with oversampled textures.

i heard 4000 cards were terrible for some reason but no clue why

They were disgustingly overpriced at launch and have only gotten more expensive.
The 4060 is the only """good value""" right now but it's literally the bottom of the barrel and will be out-budgeted in under a year.
And no matter what you pick, you're getting FUCKED on VRAM unless you get a 4090 (and get FUCKED on the price tag instead).

Mining is the only way to issue more of said crypto while maintaining the "decentralized" part of it. If they just made more of it to hand out you basically have a central bank, defeating the supposed point. However they then store all of it in centralized exchanges and get fucking scammed all the time lel.

It'll bloat the price of the high end CPUs for a year, then things will go back to normal as this wave crashes. Getting into crypto from zero isn't profitable and the only people who really get anything out of it are already conventionally rich and don't need crypto.

So it's literally pointless as anything other than another (((investor))) pyramid scheme

audit you? look at your bank?

Skill issue, I got rich from nothing

Is buying a 4060 from a 1060 a decent idea? Or should I just get like a 3070?

How did the currency exist in the first place then? Before 1-10 bitcoins was barely anything and anyone could have that, but from what I understand now if you want to get 1 bitcoin you have to mine for like years and years with countless amount of miners.
Where did all the bitcoins from the very start come from if bitcoins are so rare to produce??

Point is that you imagine being in some third world country.
You get 5 mobos and 5 x cpus and setup a mining rig that costs $5K and you now have $450 of income thats almost autopilot.

inb4 $450 is nothing

Its nothing (not really nothing for most people) for you, but for a 3rd worlder that earns $300 per month thats another +150% of monthly income.
It can snowball into aquiring more schemes and income sources or just plain having more time to jump on sone opportunity.

There is a good chance with the state of gaming dropping so bad this will be my final upgrade. I just dont expect much to be released that will be interesting in the next 10 years.

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and this is a good thing!

I hate this world so fucking much, when is that asteroid/aliens/Jesus coming to fuck it up?

Damn...i wanted to buy 7900gre in May. Can't it hold until then?

It was artificially made difficult, yet possible to attain to allow a controlled amount of inflation

It's part of normalizing digital currencies, just like every other twisted plot they engage in.
They pretend to throw you a bone and give you some slack on the leash before they yank it back and fuck you.
They did this with the internet in general.
The current wave of 'AI' is another example.
I'm not saying it's hopeless, but you need to understand that putting an end to clown world is ugly business. Most people will choose slavery out of fear and greed.

And if you have 1,000 of them you make a million dollars a year.

didnt el salvador make tens of millions on bitcoin?

something wrong with those eyes goddamn wtf

But like I asked, where did all those bitcoins come from when bitcoins was a new thing? People traded multiple bitcoins like it was pennies, but now one is worth 70k or so.
How did all those bitcoins get produced from the start?

she's asian you fucking racist

GPU prices are just fucked forever, this past year has proved it. Going above a mid-range means spending $1000 on a gpu now, that's the reality we live in

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Yes, El Salvador is now a first world nation thanks to bitcoin

Stop asking questions and just CONS00M you peasant!

Not only that, how much more demanding can games even realistically get these days? Nvidia making up new shit on the spot to try and keep selling cards when they realized the 1000 series was the best shit they ever made and lasted way too long. 4k is a meme, 8k is even bigger of a meme. Games just cant really get more demanding anyways, and more games are coming out that are more properly stylized and less realistic.

Well rtx 3070 is faster by around 20% but lack frame gen and only 8gb vram. it is shitty marked. I would either go rtx 4070 or go amd.

Make tens of millions of what?

Money is already digital nowadays. I barely use paper money. I think the tech behind crypto is the more interesting part of it.
We just need to use it for cool things unrelated to just making lines go up.

what even is vram? im gonna be honest all i do is play MMOs so I'm not trying to run anything too crazy or demanding. im a retard with computers

dogecoin

i am actually looking to upgrade soon but everything is so expensive i might go gpuless for a while. where is a country thats actually cheap to buy stuff in?

didnt a country, or maybe it was in my country, but they forced coffee shops and shit to have cash in store still
i fuckin stand by that, going cashless is going to fuck the world

Why do you think games are getting less optimized and more bloated every month?

Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by greed

It started with an initial amount existing. Two parties trade some of it. Miners do a bunch of silly math shit to process the transaction. The miner that comes up with the winning math gets a bitcoin for doing it. The math to solve the next one increases in difficulty. Over time the logarithmic scale means it gets harder and harder to solve, and thus less of it is made over time driving up the price.

I'm talking out of my ass based on a 20 minute reading from like 10 years ago so someone else can explain it better if they want.

finite resources being expended at insane rates just to farm fake meme currency that's only used for money laundering or buying drugs and child porn

humanity will definitely deserve it when the consequences of our own stupidity come crashing down on us like a thermonuclear warhead

On paper you get more performance and +2GB of vram and access to dlss and shit. But both 4060 and 3070 ara a shitty deal right now.
8GB of vram was fine in 2021.
Now all new games aim at console 12GB buffer and when ps5 pro comes out it will be even worse. Not to mention the future like in 2027. and 2028.

There really haven't been many graphically demanding games worth playing that have released in the last few years. You can run most indies on a toaster. The most graphically intense things I've played in the last three years are Nier, Deep Rock Galactic, and Palworld and even then those are only a little heavy because they're unoptimized. You'll probably be fine just playing older stuff and indies. Upgrades aren't worth the money anymore.

8 months

Bitcoin is known for having a stable value over the course of many months.

stuff like this convinces me that this world we live in must be hell

I can't get enough money to just pay my rent and have a home and there are people out there spending tens of thousands on actively destroying the environment with the crypto meme and onlyfans subs to "goon out"

If people actually cared about climate change we'd shut down all fossil fuel power plants.

I feel like my 1080's going to last the rest of my life at this point

the ones doing this aren't human

Verifying transactions by confirming blocks earns bitcoins in two ways.
Firstly, there's an automatic reward, which decreases over time. It started at 50 bitcoins and it's currently 6.25 bitcoins.
Secondly, there are transaction fees. The miner gets whatever your transaction fee is, when he confirms a block containing your transaction. So the transaction fee is you paying the miner to confirm your transaction.

I just bought a 4070ti 12GB, you can't do this to me

already cant afford cards

its going up again

fuck you

I don't mind a digital only trade. It's more convenient. The problem is when they come with the biochips to "securely store your data and passwords". Thay's the actual point of no return.

U have no idea what rich is if u think the "rich" will even bother with an extra 10k a year lol.

The initial creators, the "investors" that were in on it, and then a few lucky gamblers
It's just as bad, if not worse, than our current system in play.
Money is the root of all evil for a reason.

Climate change has nothing to do with Humans. It's a scam to get your money. If it was real, the rich would all shut down their coal mines and oil rigs, as their children and grandchildren have to live on the same planet we do. Progeny is very important to these people, their bloodlines are everything to them.

meds

4070ti 12GB

You did it to yourself.
You're like the current year equivalent of the buyers of 3070ti 8GB when it released. Except back then no one talked about vram that much.

The rich can buy safety, billions of proles can't.

I'll live.

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And then we have idiots like this poisoning the well

4060ti 16gb for $450 yes or no?

I've decided that I'm waiting for the 5000 shit to upgrade no matter how bad it's going to be, I feel like my next PC is going to cost more than a fucking car at this point

I don't buy new gpus until my current ones break.

upgrade to 4090 a year ago

keep holding on to my old 3080 for a potential second PC

used prices remained the same

I'm gonna sell that baby for profit next crypto boom or just build that second PC. Poorfags WILL NOT get that card

Sell an eye or something to get the 4070ti super instead.

What were the options anyways, 4060ti 16Gb? I was not willing to spend more than what I did in the 4070ti

I think we see a spike to almost 100k come april with the halving

The tl;dr is that vram doesn't matter unless you don't have enough of it.

I remember when Just Cause 3 released. There were hundreds of threads here crying over having bought a GPU with only 1 GB of vram - and Just Cause 3 literally doesn't launch if you didn't have at least 2 GB.

If you buy a 4060 with only 8 GB of vram, eventually some game will come out that literally will not launch for you.

Oh, and it matters a lot if you do AI stuff.

you're calling me an idiot because I think burning coal and releasing heavy metals among other pollution into the air is not a good thing?

Honestly moving from the 5gen intel, DD3ram, and DDR2 ssd is going to help more than my GPU upgrade will.

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Cryptoniggers should be executed

Nvidia told you pay $800 for 16GB of vram or to go to competition.
Or to suck on a fat one.

If you find an archive from 2015, you'll see your exact post talking about 1 GB vram.

Life comes at you fast. How fast depends on how much vram you have.

it matters a lot if you do AI stuff.

if you dont have at LEAST 16gb you are basically fucked for ai yes. you cant MAKE loras with less and you cant do local text gen with any sense of accuracy either
hardware when? fuck "open ai"

I mean, I'm generating furry porn on an AMD card with 4 GB vram, all on Windows.
Takes 30-60 seconds per image, but I just leave it running while I'm doing other shit.

coal plants

idiots like this poisoning the well

The irony is exquisite. I really hope this is just a bait anon.

I have 4gb aswell and a1111 has been broken for over a year due to bloat. I cannot gen higher than 512 anymore or it crashes, every time.
if I had a 3080 i'd still be genning but I cant.

there is nothing wrong with turning settings down to low and playing on a 1080p screen

i swear zoomies arent satisfied unless they cant see aloys mustache in 4k60

Not him but vram in games are mostly being used to store textures. The only games that require are lot of it are literal aaa slops. They will also be mostly unoptimized. On average, 8GB will take you from 5 to 10 years before it actually hinders you. Even 6GB can take you there if you lower the texture size.

I shouldve mentioned this earlier too but I think 4k is a total fucking meme and have no issue playing on 1080 or 1440. I just want a card that can play the shit and not have to worry for years to come. My monitor is 1920x1080 144hz and its literally perfect and I have no issues with it. Should I just get the 4060ti 16gb?

>/reddit/

i know right

That's why you are still renting a home while people are getting riches and bitches by destroying the environment.

Wait, it wasn't a bait? Holy shit are you genuinely retarded?
The fossil fuel power sector is severely underregulated and pumps literal posion into the air in larger quantities that entire countries wouldn't be able to balance out even if literally every one would honestly recycle everything starting tomorrow.
Care to explain why you think coal power plants are good?
science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adf4915

Yeah why not, 1080p is perfectly fine and the 4060ti will last you for a long time

i kick myself daily that i didnt buy into gpu mining when it all started and didnt blow up yet with bitcoins.
i remember threads where a midrange amd gpu at the time could get you a few bitcoins a day.
i dismissed it as a stupid pyramid scam at the time.
my pc was running 24/7 anyways and i didnt do anyhting with it most of the time during that time in my life and was still living with my parents so electricity wasnt really an issue.
then all the bitcoin millionaires happened and i still thought it was a scam. if i only mined for a few days back then i could cash out now for millions ;_;.

Don’t feel too bad. If you did odds are you’d have cashed out at 1k

for the average dude it is, now at least.
for companies that have starting capital its very lucrative.

what
said. You would've sold when it hit $100. You would've sold when it hit $500. You would've sold when it hit $1000. Nobody thought it would hit $70k like it is right now. The only way to have the hundreds of millions of dollars people claim is to have bought $100 worth when it was 11 cents in like 2011 and then forgotten about it until today.

8 months of nonstop mining

using your high end computer for anything else during this time

room becomes oven

$3

why do you need shelter, just be homeless to stick it to the man

retarded take.
more like why havent people ran on banks now that coffee is MORE than pre-ww2, no too busy sucking off the jews bombing hospitals.

a year

Try 3 months, tops. Memecoins that rely on anything other than GPUs and ASICs never last. Just like that memecoin that mined with hard drives

wtf is this retarded reasoning

Why do yall want to get rich by doing nothing? Be a man and work hard for your money.

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$90 a month is the best case scenario

lol
lmao perchance

leave it running overnight

room does not become oven because you never mine at 100%

???

profit

Working hard never got anyone anywhere, anon.

cryptos have done no good except maybe for buying drugs

tried that, waste of my time.

halving?

I wouldn't mind working hard for 1 day while getting paid 100x more than the guys that do the same job every day.

I was half expecting this. I got a 4070 base pretty cheap when the super line got teased (bout $500 USD) plus a 13700k, and I'm pretty sure it'll last me well through the next 6-7 years.

I hate cryptoshit so much the words to describe it haven't been invented yet.

There wouldn't be a problem if there existed a system kinda like a board where people could put up what they need computational power for and groups of people could accept that computational load & get paid accordingly to how much work they did towards it.

the process of just doing crypto with nothing behind the computation is a bit strange to me, that's the only form of scarcity these cryptocurrencies can have is that it is computationally difficult to do.

My idea is SETI@Home but P2P from people who want to offer you & others to collectively render their complex models or any other sort of thing and they can set the price and perhaps some system to where there is wiggle room for it. Then you get paid in the crypto.

Just sitting here wanting to play vidya and new shit comes out making hardware to do such prohibitively expensive, 2 or 3x MSRP. It's bullshit.

As much as I hate chinks, they actually have a word to mockingly describe people who are proud of the ridiculous long hard hours they work. Its not something to be proud of.

Are people here bandwagoners why the fuck do you all use Windows and Nvidia instead of Linux & AMD?

not them, if you cared you'd have replaced the grid with thorium reactors by now. instead of charging people out the ass for energy.

I am never upgrading past my 1050 ti am I

Torrenting computing power for a price is a great idea.

OSX Chad reporting in

based

linux and AMD

not contrarian bandwagons

lel

Scalpers are already getting wet dreams about hoarding the upcoming ps5pro and the 5xxx series.

Yeah but if I could somehow do that personally, I'd be sent to jail for unlawful tampering or sabotage.
Jokes aside, for that you'd need people in power who actually want a better future instead of the seemingly irresistable allure money brings.

wrong board

$3 for 24 hours of mining

That's retarded as fuck, even when considering it as passive income.

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It's not about money, they don't need it, they simply want to keep YOU on the edge of ruin so you have no leeway to maybe strike up a rebellion.

Most dumb faggot in the thread of cryptobros, quite the accomplishment.

As long as x3d isn't affected all is good

Windows literally has less fps and more bugs than Linux now

I DONT WANT TO BECOME A FUCKING AMDJEET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

AMD/Linux cartel lies.

which linux
and how many compromises and workarounds and virtual machines do you need just to play games

assumes you can mine the same amount of fake currency the eigth month as the first

NGMI

lol

lol they would get more out of working at mcdonalds without fucking up the power grid and the supply of hardware like this in the process.
these subhumans are scum

Yeah but if I could somehow do that personally, I'd be sent to jail for unlawful tampering or sabotage.

??? the fuck are you talking about, im talking about improving the grid with known tech...

What cryptoniggers do is yes you make $1k a year per machine, so they build farms of these things where they have a hundred running, then hide it in a public school so they dont have to pay electricity.

So what is this "you" shit? You think any rando has the ability or authority to make any decisions about the power grid?

Let me guess, you think you can "vote" for the rich to do something?

It's a joke anon. Like I'm personally going in and replacing the tech myself without permission.

Third worlders don't have to pay for electricity?

Ahh yes, Bitcoin. It has made me rich and it can make YOU rich as well.

7800x3D

And I won.

mine a coin for $3 a day

That'll be $600 + $250 (ram, mobo, psu, boot drive and case)

I sure hope "qubic" remains above $3 for 10 months (bet)

No one is gonna buy a 170-300W bronze PSU, suspect 250gb SSD or an A series chipset second hand kek. You can resell the CPU and maybe RAM but that's it kek

Get hosed miners

To this day i still don't understand how running your computer at max generate money, how do you produce value out of that?

bitcoin is now one gorillion dollars because uhhhhh

everything technology is now more expensive to feed into bitcoin

Burning electricity and GPUs for literal wastes of disk space for theoretical fiat value is peak paperclip maximization but it's society instead of an AI, humans are so fucking retarded

Why would i buy a shitty pluton chip?

Computers "mine" by trying to find some solution to an arbitrary and difficult problem, and if you get the solution you "get" a coin added to your wallet.
The coin can then be given or held or whatever, like a real currency.

The value of coins is irrelevant to the previous statements, as it's entirely gambling on the future value of the coin versus now. It's an entirely synthetic store of value that's only valuable because people are using it as a store of value. This is not an infinite regress, as once upon a time coins were valued based on its usefulness as a currency, but anyone using crypto as a currency in 2024 is likely some computer science idealist autist.

Here's a very short and oversimplified version: You let others use your computer to do complex math calculations on it and they give you money in return. Better specs you have in your computer allows for more calculations each second.

My computers so outdated that I'd might as well start from scratch if I wanted to upgrade anything
How screwed am I?

$3 a day while using a top end CPU at full bore (electricity not included)

Oh boy what a deal.

your computer to do complex math calculations

Note, these are not useful math calculations.

They have the same value (to humanity) as the math sums you wrote at school, minus that those taught you your times tables or whatever. Subtract that value, and that's what it is. Just endless, digital school books filled with 10 x 11 = 110 etc.

the free market makes gaming impossible

Okay, let's get some regulations going. I'm sorry liberals, come change my gender, and regulate this shit.

my computer was outdated when I brought it back when I lived at home 15 years ago

Don't care, still going to use it to emulate old video games. I'm gonna keep using this machine until it breaks, she's put in good work and she will be buried with full honors.

not video games

time to ban another crypto subhuman into oblivion

You sound 55 years old

He sounds based

3 of those graphics cards are obsolete

Am I the only one here who spends a flat $1000 on every new pc without getting autistic about it? You still get a good upgrade each time. Why would you burn money to play cutting edge AAA shit anyway

what modern AAAA slop will be worth fucking upgrading for? stop this doomsday posting shit

You will buy the doge coin.

I love retards like this. They think they've got it all figured out but are completely surprised when they look at their bank accounts and notice they are in the negative.
Protip; you haven't calculated all the costs you utter retard.

GPU prices will go again

Jesus fuck. What the fuck is going on? I am still on PS4, but am thinking of buying a PS5 Pro or a PC. Since when are GPUs so expensive? Ever since the pandemic, GPUs are expensive as shit. Is the Steam Deck any good?

i love ny deck

Crypto is in a bullrun again, plus the ai revolution needs graphics cards too.

This is the new normal. Just don't be poor and feel pride in buying disgustingly inflated GPU prices that you don't really need for gayming.

sold all my bitcorns at $500

Heh, whoops. Oh well.

no matter how bad it's going to be

I think it will be the same case for me, when I bought the 1660s at 290 dollars from here

le upgrade your le pc

mining some shitcoin

said shitcoin depends on current BTC pricing

At 170 TDP, constantly cooled at full speed, active for 24-7 resulting in 4.1 kwh a day, spread across 30 days is around 125 kwh a month. Current price of kwh is about 45 cents which means you pay each month 60+ ONLY for the CPU, but still in the red since you didn't even break even.
You retard will be mining trash for months and won't be able to sell because BTC will fluctuate.
Even in rural china areas with cheap electricity when avaiable you have to break even first and unless you drop ten thousands into this shit and pull it off for one year, during that year the price will fluctuate.

In other words KYS and stay fucking poor

Console chads win again

None of this shit will matter once the Stocks Crash in 2 years
No it will happen memes, is is already happening and all companies are firing people left and right in hopes to survive before the bomb explodes and the impact comes in full force in 2025-2026, shit will be 2008 on crack and on par with 1929

2 more weeks bro!

Everything is fine dude

Dont mind me watching a fucking cheeze-os bag becoming smaller and expensive in less than14 years

Dont mind watching the entire entertainment industry crashing and taking everything with it too

See how it is good for you to eat 3d printed shit because kikewood artist and gaming journo said so.

What preparations are you making for it?

literally nonissues

Take your meds

so when are we looking at more pink fields over on Anon Babble then?

it'll tank after the election when they don't need the fraud any longer.

It is weird to me how much I hate the idea of bitcoin. Normally I don't give a shit about environment cause I am a terminal virgin that will never have to suffer the consequences. But somehow the idea of running a nuclear plant or two just to do absolutely useless random number calculations to support the system bothers me. It is huge waste of effort for absolutely nothing.

why seethe over that and not government

2 years from now

damn. wonder if i should just invest in a 4080 quick before they are $2000

NTA, but probably because the government isn't deciding to waste hardware and electricity on this hot air

At least make the compute do anything. Not just flip fucking random numbers to find the next lucky number.

Cryptokeks are so stupid

dude i make my first profit with this 700 USD purchase after only 8 months

if i buy 100 of those CPUs i will make 300 bucks a day once i have turned a profit!

Yeah - assuming the market will still be on the rise 8 months from now on - good luck with that bet. The last time crypto hype happend BTC and everything else tanked again right away and it only recovered recently.
Even if you plan to play the really really LONG game - you are also assuming that this specific crypto you are mining will still be relevant by that time and that hardly ever happend with anything besides the really big coins.

Cryptofags would do better financially if they listened to the stock market tip nr1. And that is that you don't buy into any hype that is currently hitting the news - cause something hitting the news means that it's already too late for you to jump in.
Nvidia is the top talk of the stock market right now and everyone and their mom tell you to buy the thing - But the stock already did a x10 - it's not gonna do another x10 anytime soon. All you are doing is at best getting some smaller gains with a huge risk on your back - any stock that grows so massively in such a short time is bound for a correction at some point.

But sadly most people are retarded - they see hype - they buy hype - they get scammed - and at the end they run to the government and ask for bailouts and arrests.

My i7 4770 still going strong

btc blew past 70k

the fuck, anons said this shit was dead, did ai revive it?

bought a 3060 Ti a year back

it stopped working properly, wouldn't display a picture if the monitor was above 60hz

monitor works fine with the old 5700XT above 60hz and fine with the 960 I have.

I haven't sent it in for RMA yet

Fuck me, I'm really going to have to do this now before suddenly GPUs cease existing again, and if they did exist, at fuck-terrible prices.

Reports of its death were greatly exaggerated

I've been thinking. With the power of hindsight, is all this bullshit that's obviously unprofitable just a front for the actual root cause of compute hardware shortage, which is large corporations buying them up for AI/Cloud Compute etc.?

Yeah - assuming the market will still be on the rise 8 months from now on - good luck with that bet. The last time crypto hype happend BTC and everything else tanked again right away and it only recovered recently.

I don't know why brainlets keep thinking like this. "If your asset goes down for a few months you lose, nevermind that it will rise up shortly after anyways!"

This is probably why you are poor.

I'm not a cryptofag but by this point bitcoin is a proven method of making passive money. No one cares if the value is going down in the short term considering it is probably rising later on. It has been doing this for 5 years. Even if Mr. Anon was right all along and it stops tomorrow, what will you lose from the lighthearted mining you did so that your CPU pays itself?

BTC has been doing that for years. And nothing about it makes any sense to begin with.
The vast majority of BTC is being held by 0.X% of all crypto holders. Just a handful of whales have enough power to dictate where the entire market goes. If they throw their shit on the market the coins tank - if they move around their assets and generate "activity" the prices grow.
That's the funniest part about the retarded crypto cult - They think it's a decentralized alternative to the dollar when it actually is just replacing the Federal Reserve with a handful of billionaire investors.

I don't really follow the news but I assume they use it to mine monero. Ryzen has always been popular for monero miner. BTC is blowing up lately and most alts are following it. 7950x is gayming/enthusiast cpu I don't think big company is behind it.

INTEL CHADS REPORT IN!!

Consoles are for video games, video cards are for crypto

features and efficiency so bad not even miners want them

I've got a crypto transaction sitting on pending for a couple of weeks now.
Can't cancel it and can't speed it up either.
Gas fees are terrible.

consoles are for normies that play cod and fifa
no one with taste wants to play games at console level performance

Let me put it like this: It's profitable anywhere on this godforsaken planet except for motherfucking Germany.

I see, Anon Babble is just as retarded as usual.

it would have been if they didn't kill all their nuclear energy

I think Facebook bought something like 10000 graphics cards recently to train their next llama ai model. That can’t be helping prices

Also the taxes on electric energy are fucking madness.
Before shutting the nuclear power stations down, they made up two thirds of the end price.
You don't make companies lower their consumption like that - you drive them out of the country.
And the results are starting to show pile up... If there was a way to short this country, I'd do it right now.

it's a ponzi scheme more than a pyramid scheme
and the answer is because these grifters want you to hold their bags
they don't actually care about the perceived benefits, I bet that faggot grifter replying to you has never once sent money to his family, they just want YOU to think these benefits exist so you buy it

5800X3D will last me until the end of time because nothing will ever get made from this point forward that will be worth upgrading for

Buying QQQ, QLD and TQQQ. Now your job is just doing nothing at all.

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I haven't upgraded anything in over a decade and still don't see any reason to.

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i have all my cash in SWVXX

Wrong. It can still take ages though BTC plus the fees are exorbitantly expensive. If you think your bank is scamming you by charging 50 bucks for a 10k USD transfer into a different country - try calculating how expensive it would be to turn 10k USD into BTC and transfer those BTC to a different wallet.

you can't mine bitcoin with just a gpu nigga, people were mining Eth in 2020

yeah for real dude. i have 2gen below you (2500k, not memeing...) and still going great. i play games at med and emulator switch easily

1030

Isn't that just a display port?

No, it has HDMI and DVI too.

If you are living in Thailand or similar place it's probably very good money.

crypto is a psyop by console makers to bring gamers back home. leave the pc to the basement dwellers.

I missed the first nvidia spike because I didn't have an account with any brokers, and figured it wasn't gonna get another big jump. Looking at it now, it doubled it the last three months.

there isn't a single game post 2020 worth buying
I don't need to upgrade but feel free to prepare your ass for your generic AAA game that weights 200 gigs bro

I recently got reminded I put like $100 into an altcoin back in 2022 and saw it became $1000 last week. I kick myself for not putting more money into it. Fucking hell.

Same, though I recently bought a 4790 and 32GB of ram for the hell of it. I'll run this mobo for as long as I can.

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beefy rig

windows 7

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profitability for 24 hours of running a 7950X is 3 bucks

RIGHT NOW with zero reason to assume this fad will live longer than a few weeks

better go buy thousands of dollars worth of CPUs to make a total profit of 10-20 bucks a day

just when I thought cryptobros couldn't get any more delusional.

gods

Really nigga?

Lol a 750 TI is an upgrade over a 1030 in 95% of games. Same power draw too. No reason to upgrade to that though.

entire thread full of cope from midwits

yes anon everyone is stupid except you
we told you to buy 2 years ago, you mocked us and didnt listen
you could've 10x'd your money by now, you didn't listen

b-b-but this and that and this and that

no. shut the fuck up. you don't know anything.

buy the wrong coin at the wrong time because you don't understand anything about the complex ecosystem

lose money

99% of crypto is gambling and the average underage gamer doesn't have enough spare cash to "invest" in anything.

chuds already gave up on the AI meme after they realized they still have to learn to code, draw and make music themselves

get meme'd into wasting all their savings on crypto AGAIN

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crypto

now AI

when does it end Anon Babbleros

Who is "we"?
Introduce me to your super secret ring of market setters
And it better not be biz

People don't realize how long the market can stay irrational, crypto is worthless garbage but it's totally unknown when the speculation for it will zero out so if you realize a profit off it good for you, but the irrationality will stop eventually so having theoretical profits means literally nothing
A lot of crypto retards have no exit strategy so when the party ends they're going to be hurting with a big bag

Here's your satoshi nakamoto bro LMAO

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run 50 of them you dumbass

Wait until you hear about crypto AI.

Never.

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you will own nothing, this will be taken to its logical conclusion based on live-service products and you will have to stream to play your games. nvidia shortages sure conveniently helps out their geforce now platform.

People who run nodes and validate transactions have to be inceitived to do so as it costs money, so they are paid in coins

You just buy Nvidia and some AMD down the line. it's that simple. Buy the ones selling shovels during the gold rush.

As the world gets shittier, everything that used to just be someones side project will become monitized and turned to shit

Is this why I can't get a fucking 7800x3d with reasonable shipping times for my rig? Either need to wait a week for Amazon to get off their fucking lazy asses or go to a Microcenter.

if

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Never, expect more online games to be season based with more game passes, paid expansions, crossovers, gacha/lootboxes, streamer bait, and more
Indie games will be flooded with AI generated art, music, voices, code in AI generated game templates
AAA games will be ground down to a handful of Indian prompt engineers and some overworked American engineer trying to do quality control as the 1000 marketers, middle managers, and administrators kill all creativity
LLMs will allow fake people to shill slop of every kind on every website, whether that's AAA slop or scam AI games, and AI bots will write rave reviews and write gaming journalism articles (with the same DEI slants as today)
We're entering the age of the backlog clearing

behead all cryptoniggers

We're entering the age of the backlog clearing

Dark times ahead

All monetary value is made up.

As always, it's Anon Babble fault

a bunch of pajeet bots shilling their rug pulls and autists posting pink and green wojaks

influencing anything

They wish

The government paid for my 4070 Ti last year and the only game that gave me issues was Toddfield because he can't optimize a game for the life of him. I think I'm good.

bit esoteric no?

Can you blame people for not wanting to listen to gambling addicts that keep saying THIS TIME IT"LL BE IT!! before it crashed, or shilling your shitcoins over and over again

jews are getting everyone in btc to crash it and wipe them out, then you will accept CBDC

I work at best buy and I legit can save myself some items to personally pre order

How are co2 cultists legal

Hey man, I have the 7950x but I do not recommend mining. CPUs and GPUs are to be treated with love, which is why I use them to browse Anon Babble to avoid playing video games.

Why don't the lawmakers make it illegal alrady?

won't have money for 7800x3d for another month

don't fucking do this shit to me

retards, if this Qbic shit gains any real traction and has a "use case" (it doesnt and wont, outside of a small handful of coins none of them have a viable use-case that will ever materialise other than money laundering) some nerds will figure a way to mine it via a crypto-mining machine and will cuck whoever wastes their money burning out cpus on mining.

t. Spent a year mining, only to get cucked by crypto-inflation and lose half my investment.

Miners have farms with tens of thousands of these animenigger retard

honestly i think i'm over pc gaming once my current rig kicks the bucket. i'll become a cucksole gamer or maybe streaming type shit will actually be decent. what's geforce now like these days?

are to be treated with love

miners undervolt their shit, i'd rater buy a GPU from a miner than a smelly gamer who did fuck knows what on his rig

it takes 8 months to break even

mining a random shitcoin that blew up overnight with no indication that it'll be sticking around

Why would you do this instead of choosing a safer investment that makes just as much?

wym if? Nvidia is in going to lose the next data center craze so they will absolutely fall back to coiners.

Scalpers are already getting wet dreams about hoarding the upcoming ps5pro and the 5xxx series.

god i hope they do they would lose so much money hording no games stations no one wants.

Amd cpus are extremely efficient doing most of the work of most processors at less than half tdp.
That is no longer an issue in this case.

Anon Babble here, never heard of this shitcoin, it's a literal nothingburger. Recover from your trauma and stop pooping your pants children.

It's a currency jews don't control, over on the DeFi space literal indians are making more than multiples of your annual wage by buying shitcoins that go to a billion marketcap.

Me too anon, but come launch day there will always be retards who will pay +1k for a ps5pro.

THIS TIME IT"LL BE IT!!

nigger it's "it" every 2 years. bitcoin has been crashing and skyrocketing for 15 years

qubic

lol

Every spanish public worker is like this

And they just hire even more people to cover for this shit since they basically work like 4 hours a day and still put on a bad face when you go there and make them do any work.

Why do you guzzle jewish cum so much?

going down a few % is fucking nothing when it's up 150% from a year ago. even if you're a lazy fuck that just holds long term, you'll still make obscene returns, although if you game the fluctuations even slightly the returns get even more ungodly. anti-cryptotards are genuinely deranged at this point

2023: BTC is 18k, it’s doomed!!
2024: BTC is 69k, its a scam!!

I'm so happy that i built new pc, get fucked wait fags

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you make $1095 a year doing this*

*Not accounting for inflation which inevitably causes these "currencies" to devalue worse than Venezuelan money

Oh boy! $3 per 24 hours? Time to make hardware unaffordable again!

These tulips have real value!

none of this "wealth" comes from nowhere, for every temporary winner, there are dozens of losers. Shilling the concept of shitcoins is a very outdated tactic anon, its just gambling and praying a whale doesnt rugpull you without warning. There is no viable future for 99% of crypto-currencies, they will all go to 0.

Frankly anyone who stayed in and kept trading after NFTs became a thing baffles me. Let alone the FTX scandal.

That's literally nothing you stupid retard, we're still a month away from the halving and we're still near the previous ATH, this is why you're poor.

Yeah no shit retard the entire economy and reality itself is a ponzi, you win nothing if you risk nothing.

Every four years something kills crypto. This time it was ftx. These events are meaningless long term

decided to upgrade my pc out of pure dumb luck like 2 months before all this stupid crypto shit happened

thought everything was finally going to stabilize

Now this happens

I hate cryptofaggots. I hate cryptofaggots. I hate cryptofaggots. I hate cryptofaggots. I hate cryptofaggots. I hate cryptofaggots. I hate cryptofaggots.

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Nah, I don't think I will. At this point I only play old video games.

You’ll fomo at 500k

Jews owns so much BTC it's almost not worth to even try anymore, you could be rich at the very begining when jews didn't play the game but now they're all over crypto like every other asset.

5600x3d is enough for at least 5 more years
I'll probably upgrade a year or two after next generation of consoles

Wanted to buy a new PC in a few months

Just spent all my money on 50 year old headphones instead

I don't want to use savings on a fucking computer

GPU prices are going to skyrocket again

Shit. Waiting for Deck 2 or Steam Galileo.

BTC still can do a10x before reaching the value of gold, and there’s higher tiers of investments above that

lmfao

Yes, surely wasting thousands more dollars to upgrade for modern video games to STILL not make full use of it and more N64/PS quality indie games is a smart investment.

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SAAAAAAAR REDEEEEEEEEEEM THE NIGGERCOIN SAAAAAAAAAAAR

kill yourself kumar, no one is buying your bags

Tch, For fuck sake. It is just one thing after the other. Maybe it is time to start doing something else, things are never getting better.

streetshitters actually believe this

tfw still using this piece of shit from 2016

i should really stop procrastinating and build an actual pc before its too late huh

i hate cryptofags

Implying anybody entertains second hand GPUs, especially after the last time this happened

He bought the wrong hardware and is seething.

Intvidiots. Not even once.

dont be reductive. There are plenty of negatives to modern debt-currency, in fact 99% of all human suffering can be traced to the fake-ponzi scheme money that rules the world.

But normal currency being bad doesnt make crypto good, at all, in fact cryptocurrencies are far more vulnerable to kikery than our mainstream currencies, they are regulated to prevent much of what happens in crypto-currency circles for good reason.

SAAAAAAAR FUCKING REDEEEEEEM THE COINS SAAAAAAAAAAR BLOODY BENCHOD BITCH BASTARD

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Imagine not owing one whole bitcoin in 2024

get most of the initial cost back on your GPUs

lmfao nigga fags were coping selling their 3090tis for 600 bucks at most on ebay a few months back, making back less than 50% of the cost MSRP is trash, and more like <25% since scalper prices made most people pay easily 2500+ for a XX90 GPU
cryptofaggots are retards

As someone who does this I can't recommend not doing it enough.

cringe

Cope you can smell.

It's only going to get worse until 2026, when we can expect a rather large market crash

never buying not even playing skyrim todd

I can buy a 4080 for msrp right now

I will not redeem

2026

a rather large market crash

The AI bubble is overinflated, that much is for sure, but there is really no saying WHEN it will implode.
I'm saying that as a CS graduate, that clearly sees, that computers are (in theory) at least as powerful as humans.
The ultimate question is, how far the current approaches will take us. I have the suspicion, that the current training methods are way too inefficient, but I have no idea how to fix that.
The big step the transformer did was enabling the usage of significantly larger data sets, but it did nothing about the training efficiency with respect to the training set size - instead AI is eating GPUs like there was no tomorrow.

There was a breakthrough by M$ recently that makes almost everything in LLMs 30x better

LLMs 30x better

What's it called?

under optimal conditions you make $1095 a year doing this

Okay now multiplay that with 20 gpu's for a basic bitch beginner operation. 20k a year on top of what you already make and you can just sell them off at scalp prices whenever you are done on ebay.

It's a currency

It's only good for speculation, no one uses it as currency.

jews don't control,

You can't actually believe this.

...and the crypto itself is backed by USD.

MUH ILLEGAL TRADE

Do you think crack traders are dumb enough to sell crack as it is on the invoice?

Fiat currency represents the whole productivity of that country, whether that's physical goods, digital goods, or services. Individual units of that fiat are small slices of that economy.
Bitcoin is squarely inside the fence of digital goods. It is only a currency as much as trading cards or stocks are a currency. It is backed by nothing and noone, and the fact it's merely an widely variable speculative asset speculated in USD shows how much of a joke of a currency it is.

Have a (You) kind stranger.

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I respect the people that do but I wouldn't want to do it myself

What about AI mining crypto for you?
how do we make it work lads

You can get something reasonable for like $700-$900, or go for like $1200

mommy

Give mommy a foot rub please... I ate cheese and beans...so I'm a bit gassy today...

This has no effect on gaming cpus, in face the X3D versions aren't being used because they cost more and the extra cache doesn't help with mining. So the best gaming cpu you can buy(7800X3D) is completely safe since it's both more expensive than the 7800X and has less cores than the 7950X and the 7900X which is what miners want. Unless you're rendering shit you don't need either of those cpus. This is just fear mongering a non issue that's irrelevant to everyone here.