How do we fix scrimblo bimblos?

Fark is fantastic. The exact right amount of detail to look cool and visually engaging.

The character on the bottom left is the most egregious design wise

Can't speak for the gameplay but a lot of these are just overdesigned and unappealing. Spark is the only one here I kinda like but mostly just because the hat reminds me of Beam Kirby

jesus christ these are all fucking terrible

You need to come up with a good character design, and then base the gameplay around it, rather than taking good gameplay from other shit, and then trying to manufacture the character out of already existing ones.
It's specifically why Spark and work as great character designs but the other 3 don't.

the goat design is a terrible coombait design though

Penny looks like they took all the wrong notes from Marina Liteyears. This is appealing. THAT is a clusterfuck.

All four are just so, so ugly man. How do the designers look at these and not see how unappealing they are?

You can get mad about getting turned on by an attractive woman because she's covered in grey fur and has antlers, but it's still a good design.

Toxic positivity in the workplace. No naysaying allowed, just do your work and keep your head down.

you mean you don't like rad? but he's an ally!

You know what? This is valid. And in this household we love that.

How do we fix bots spamming the same threads every day?

who cares? anybody who says this can never actually explain why sexy designs are bad, just that being sexy is bad. sorry, it's not. nobody is going to gaslight me into believing that enjoying hot women in cartoons or anime or games is a bad thing, because it isn't.

Explains the gay ass earrings.

You can't "fix" that, but you could make a thread about a game you're interested in.
Mileage may vary if you're actually posting it around major gaming news and the administration is letting advertisers run rampant.
And is always relevant

A thread about a topic I don't like happens too often... BAN IT!!

cutest gay creature

try jumping off a bridge

Hard disagree. It's a clean design with an easily readable silhouette, smart use of color and contrast, and her long legs and goat theme suit a game about jumping and wall-kicking. Your only criticism is "someone might have gotten aroused by it." And all that amounts to is a promise that lots of people find her agreeable to look at.

You don't. They fail and are forgotten.

I love Spark 1, but it's probably because the soundtrack is 10/10

Posts the second franchise about an Orange Fluffy Mascot character that people love that's currently being held hostage by the absolutely retarded state of IP law and Microsoft

but it's probably because the soundtrack is 10/10

the ost is good, i'll give you that.

1 is the second best in the series.

Microsoft

Let's not pretend as though Crash has ever had a decent publisher. From Universal to Activision, he's always been owned by bloodsucking vampires.

bottom left is the only bad design here and drags all the others down with it as a consequence

It's only downhill from there? Damn...

Wow, all of that looks like garbage!
Behold: a superior character for a better age.

Without talking about design, the gameplay left much to be desired and it was very glitchy

Still even if Activision were pretty retarded about it and only used it for an admittedly alright 3D Beat-Em Up that people mostly don't like for being too different.
I'd say that's far and away different from Microsoft immediately shoving the IP into purgatory the second they got their hands on it.

That wasn't Activision. That was Sierra who did the Titan games.

It's this and the gameplay feeling like a jumbled mess because they copy+pasted mechanics from other games.

There are ways to take inspirations and envelop it in your game in an appropriate manner, but that requires having an actual sense of design and some level of creativity which most of these games lack.

fygoonfag has breached containment

wtf

Sexy designs are bad because they objectify women and the objectification of women leads to discrimination and poor treatment.

terrible coombait

Homosexual opinion

that's not a critique of the design itself though

Oh yeah, I suppose it was.
Could have sworn Activision published them.
Still, an okay set of remakes wasn't too terrible. Shame they were dumb enough to hand the IP to toys for blob, and that still doesn't really say anything about Microsoft Blinxing the IP.

no it doesn't. anybody that treats women poorly never did it because they saw a hot woman in a piece of media, they do it because that's how they are. fiction only affects the reality of stupid people or the mentally ill.

My point is that Crash has always had shitty publishers. Microsoft getting their greedy little hands on him is nothing new....Sad but nothing new.

Blinx

I direct you to picsreel where Microshaft actually did something with an IP...devalue it.

Sonic clones can only have one of two designs:

furry with human clothes and an obnoxious personality

clusterfuck of half-baked ideas and bad designs

The only way to have an actually good-looking "scimblo" is by not trying to be like Sonic.

Nah, Rocky Rodent was decent.

I direct you to picsreel where Microshaft actually did som

They literally moved the Blinx 2 release date a year early to the week after Halo 2 released to intentionally murder the franchise and then specifically refused to release it to Artoon who wanted to still make games and finish the PC version of Blinx 2.
I literally DO NOT want to hear any other claims of IP Mismanagement unless they are worse than that.

like this?

All sonic ripoffs are doomed to fail because sonic was never good.

The types of people that like and want to make these types of games also have terrible taste. Who knew?

I know that's "the meme", but Sonic honestly wouldn't have survived this long as a franchise if the games weren't at a floor good.

I'm still mad. Loved those games.

Can't find a source for any of this. Only thing I'm reading about is how the first game was a failure and how Xbots didn't care for Scrimbo Bimbos.

they all have the same problem, they're superficially trying to ape 90s japanese mascot designs but at the same time the devs are still keeping the western cultural baggage leading to a weird freak chimera of styles every time that frankly looks like complete dogshit to anyone that isnt in the hyper specific manchild echo chamber that spawns these mutants

Would.

I don't see how. Every sonic game just comes and goes like a wet fart. Maybe kids just love the character that much?

Did you just sleep through everyone jacking off Mania?

sonicfangameshq.com/forums/showcase/categories/frameworks.12/
why aren't you making your own game anon?

Sonic's first decent game of the millenia is one that looks and plays like the games made in the 90s.

Lawl

The gamedev thread died while I was asleep.

i'll get around to it... at some point..

Start with some kind of animal or robot or alien or something that you can make as much or as little stylized as you want to , but keep recognizable elements that still show they're an animal. The problem with a lot of mascots is that they're way too alien looking and its hard as a player to understand or care about anything that's going on because there's no emotional bond with the characters. I would say that even characters like Rayman are like this too. He's just too stupid looking to give a shit about him.

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By adding bowlbo.

This

Because admittedly I'm lazy, and my grand plan of a game that supports both sprite player "models" and 3D ones for both ease and complexity when making characters and not running in fucking Doom I don't think I could reasonably "sell" it to people, as in get them hooked on the concept, since modding these days is dead as fuck.

if I used one of these engines and just replaced the sonic sprites/models with my OC could I sell it?

Check the licensing scheme first.

The problem with modern scrimblos is that they're being designed by people with no skill or experience in designing actual mascot characters. That's because they desperately want their scrimblo to be the next furfag darling that looks cool and sexy and edgy and quirky and colorful and nostalgic and unique and
So they start slapping various features on the characters that make little to no sense while paying no attention to the base (which is usually taken from their childhood mascot, like Sonic or Rayman).
A good mascot is supposed to be the opposite. You should pour everything into that basic form while mercilessly stripping away any and all unnecessary detail. It should be something a kid could draw, because they're supposed to be the target audience.
Pomni is an example of a mascot design done right. She is simple, colorful, and effective. Compare her to Spark, with his dumbass jacket, dumbass boots, and a jester hat that feels entirely unrelated to the character, while his face barely ever emotes. You start seeing the problem.

There’s one on the front page is steam that’s doing not too bad. Too lazy to look it up

Spark also has a gay ass story and annoying combat that ruins the flow of gameplay. Less story, less combat, and more cool jacket guy running around would be much better

Your game looks like shit and you spam gay porn. So no, I will never play your game

I liked spark better when the kirby abilities were the focus

nani?!

just add bunnies

Read the manual, they specify it. Although 3D ones are almost all Unity and Unreal projects (aka files with all the items and character physics implemented), so you'll be using only the engine, technically.

It was mid

fuck thats hot

What went wrong?

What the fuck IS Penny?

Looks like you're confusing me with my insane schizo orbiter who has no game. It's very easy to see what is my work and what isn't if you know what to look for.

see? just add bunny ez

This one.

I have no idea how a bunch of Sonicfags finally got enough money and resources to make their own 3D Sonic game, but instead of finally fucking doing justice to the Adventure formula, they made a retarded N64-inspired collectathon that got BTFO by far cheaper similar games, with visuals inspired by fuck knows what.

The dev studio thought the gameplay of CD was exceptional.

what's happenin forum?

COOL
TRANSITION

I haven't gotten around to playing spark but his design looks fine.

the unreal files should be fine, alot of devs use existing frameworks. Just make sure when you copy the homework it doesn't look exactly the same

Spark3's Pacific Abyss is peak 3d sonic gameplay

Is that your excuse for ban evading after getting banned for spamming gay porn in every indie thread?

That didn't help Klonoa.

Klonoa has the opposite problem, A tier design. and meh gameplay.

I've played a few klonoa games Because I liked the look of them. but they ended up being not much fun.

Caramel head, HAG SEX, faggot furry furfaggotsona and a lemon jester guy who's cool

people just want a game where you run fast in a world of nothing

Is this what it takes to be a game dev?

Kekitopu, post a demo. I want to see the bunnnnnnn

I've played that game for about 5 hours so far this weekend it's fun as fuck. Just make sure to turn the difficulty up and set obstacle generation to 1.5x

What in the actual fuck is a "scrimblo bimblo"?

is it even possible to make a successful new platformer mascot? it seems like a relic of an era long gone

Good. The art circle that made Penny deserve it!

cartoony mascot cereal box looking character. it was coined by someone making a joke post about how smash fans get angry when a reveal is an animesque character and not a cartoony game character from the 90s

What makes a scrimblo successful anyway?

it's a retarded term that smash autists came up with while DLC for ultimate was still dropping. it was used primarily by anime sword stans to criticize any character who was a platformer mascot, suggesting they were less important than blue hair swordsman #27. basically any character that looks more like a cartoon rather than an anime human.

If you throw in a hot big tits and ass lizard girl, I'll play your game!

I had a lot of fun with the game, but it's easy to see why it failed.

Character design was unappealing in 3D (though I thought it worked in the 2D cutscenes)

Shadow dropped with $30 price tag after no news for almost a year

Game feels great to play but it feels dull and frustrating until you learn how to utilize momentum, in stark contrast to Sonic which starts out feeling simple and fun and only gets better as you learn the intricacies of the physics and level design

So Anon Babble latched onto it like the autist they are?

it's not really just Anon Babble to be very truthful. it became pretty ubiquitous, without any weird baggage I do think it was a pretty funny post.

I'm a professional artist and I want to make a platformer with a cute girl character. Statistics show that platformers don't do very well compared to other genres. Should I ignore that and do it anyway?

Are you making the game for money or for the people?

I want to make a video game to share something with the world. If I make money that's a bonus.

Then make the platformer. Just don't make it a rouge shite, those are gay.

these are genuinely kino and SOUL in a way i admit is kinda bad and cringe

newfag

Sorry if I don't keep up with your twitter smash bros buzzwords.

Go have a wank, and see if you still want to make it afterwards

i have never used twitter and know what a scrimblo bimblo is because i'm not a newfag

its from an old spongebob episode

It was specifically about Geno, an obscure character that nobody had given one iota of a fuck about until some autists found out about him and decided to make getting him into smash their entire personality. Like any meme term it has gotten flanderized but it originally was meant to be about obscure mascot characters from the 90s that nobody but a few weirdly obsessed people care about and act like it not being popular is some conspiracy against their person, eg Crash, Spyro, Mario are not scrimblos but something like Clockwork Knight would be if it had obsessive fans.

i'd probably play it, i'm starving for new platformers. it's to the point where i'm also considering making one. mind givin us a little tease of your protag?

Never forget:

Artist/Designer/Programmer for her game literally confirms that she is attracted Human males and would be fine with having a human boyfriend.

A yoyo jester bunny sheep penguin doll

When someone makes up a derogatory term for a phenomenon we didn't already have a word for, generally speaking it sticks. See: Zanzibart

keki stop posting on Anon Babble and get back to making your game

Some kind of dog or sheep but she looks more like a granny

So you learned it from the smash roster threads, good job, newfag.

That's a video from two years ago. Safe to say it went nowhere.

Forced soul

The release timing was poor yeah, but rather than the game's quality, which is fine, is the fact they were absolute retards with the production. Moved to some big expensive american city and hired a lot of people. The rest, save for the hiring of Mariel Cartwright, is just Sonic fans frothing at the mouth.

Sonic Team appreciates your shit taste in games, anon.

you can google things
x.com/i/status/1908937978031853715

the game looks fun but the art design is really bad

Nah that's Landfall games
The Totally Accurate Battle Simulator guys.
They have a fuckhuge budget and probably got up to the botting shit everyone does on steam since the chinks got people doing it.

Projecting your anger onto a boogeyman like it rewrites real events everyone is privy to

design simple enough that a (man)child can draw it with ease

basic lore to make the character interesting that is vague enough to let autists come up with original stories and characters

not designed with sexual intentions in mind (this also applies to attempts to make the character "safe" because everything reminds you of sex)

the character is cute/cool/edgy because of how he acts in the game (and specially during gameplay) and not because promo material says it

pic

The first one really needs more hair or hat.

This is too weird and in very bad way.

the gameplay was too shit

looking at all the collectathon garbage that have done well I'd say you're full of crap with your assessment

Platformers rarely get judged by their merit. Take

pic related

for example.

marina's game did poorly too though

And? I don't care.

responding to hours-old bait

Fuck you're retarded

unreal

you'll get HIRE THIS MAN level quality work, or worse sonic frontiers

Astro Bot literally won GOTY and it only sold 2 million copies at best, 3D platformers don’t sell.

Platformers were meant to be rented for 3 dollars and returned after you beat it in a weekend. Nobody wants to pay a premium price for one.

Astro Bot literally won GOTY

seriously? what was so good about it? it just looks like a generic 3d platformer to me

People in general do not want platformers because they're too video gamey. That's just a fact.

Not at all, she is ugly and repulsive.

scrimblo bimblos

here's one: stop using twitter meme terms

FP3 never ever
And that’s probably for the best

Pomni's a really good TV design since all of her features frame her biggest and most expressive asset: her eyes. While she's dressed as a garish, flamboyant jester, it's used as a sort of framing to highlight the face since it's far less garish to look at since it's basically just a white circle with eyes. Pomni also being a potato means it's really easy to imagine her as being young and identifiable with young audiences even if she's an adult. Similarly, ENA and all the designs there are really good even if they're surreal in nature and draw from a hodgepodge of cultural influences. Taski Maiden for example is a good design because she visually looks like a Chimu textile come to life, but is animated in such a way to be emblematic of hyper, unhinged early 00s anime cat girls. The black parts of her body indicate she's something inhuman in nature as her grey body and emoticon-like facial expressions again tie back to that early 00s anime aesthetic. Very neat, and simple, but you can easily understand her character just by looking at her.

Hello Kitty Island Adventure outperformed every platformer that isn't a legacy franchise. Platformers are dead.

if the dragon jerked off would it be considered masturbation?

Eggsplain.

I am not designer, so i don't know designer words, it just feels to me this way.

I think a lot of these nu-platform character designers dont understand the mascot phenomenon was the result of taking a "bigger" design, then simplifying it to suit hardware limitations. If you couldnt make your character work on N64 hardware and still have it look good, it probably needs to go back to the drawing board.

3D platformers don’t sell.

it takes two sold 20 mil copies but idk if that one counts. also, how come this never applies to someone like mario? every new 3d mario game makes more and more money than the last one. oddyssey sold 30 mil copies. what are the chances that astrobot just didn't sell as much as mario because of other factors we're not taking into account like marketing or the fact that it's a ps5 exclusive instead of a switch one (or a multiplatform title)? obviously astrobot not having the same history/popularity as mario would mean it was always destined to sell less than him but it probably could've made more than 1 mil with the right adjustments, right?

cunny protagonist

I will now buy your game and draw her getting her cunny crushed by big middle-aged adult dick.

the lack of feet and mechanical toothpick legs make her look bad.

That's the thing though. Mario has a near monopoly on the genre. It sells not because it's a platformer but because it's Mario.
It's like saying monster catching games sell because Pokemon exist, when Pokemon is the exception, not the rule.
There reaches a point where you can slap BRAND on anything and it'll sell and a normal person has neither the time nor the resources to be able to compete with something like that.

It Takes Two is co-op slop. Normies see a game they can play together and their monkey brains immediately go to buy it for the lulz. There's a reason multiplayer shit like that cooking game and whatever else still sell, because it gives them a cheap dopamine rush and they have low standards of humor and engagement.

Bimbo Bubsy is concept canon

the gameplay looked fun.

The game runs counter to it's own design, all the muhmentum shit only makes it so playing the game with any ounce of skill ends up skipping half the levels because they are still designed like your average collectathon.

It's like saying monster catching games sell because Pokemon exist, when Pokemon is the exception, not the rule.

that's exactly what i was thinking about, but something like palworld did eventually come around, and it did sell pretty well (over 15 million copies according to wiki). so i do wonder if maybe we're maybe being too dismissive.

Platformer threads like this always amazes me because it's usually taking indie platformer as a benchmark for the genre's viability when commercial platformers in recent time like Crash, Astro Bot, Sonic, Rayman and etc do sell well. Meanwhile something as generic looking as Split Fiction managed to sell 2 million in a week and I guarantee some of the people here would declare the characters as Concordlike too lol. But I'll bite, here's a "solution", what if some of these games strive to target a different audience or style for their platformer instead of chasing pretty oversaturated aesthetic within the genre. It reminds me of Don Bluth making his Disney lite movies and eventually failed due to him not making animated movies targeted for anyone other than children. Like what's stopping a Dark Souls lorewise platformer from being made or something. All in all I really don't care for the obsessive platformer design autism and I play these games simply for the gameplay. I have to get around playing Penny soon.

None of them really look VULNERABLE enough

It copied Mario really well on the PS5 so it had no competition.

Like what's stopping a Dark Souls lorewise platformer from being made or something

i guess hollow knight fits that? yeah, i guess i see the point you're making. none of these games have a hook beyond being a thing you've already played.

And look at what happened to Palworld because it dared to rock the boat.
There's indeed familiarity in conformity, and Nintendo has spent decades building its brand. It's impossible to compete against such a thing unless you've got similar backing and power and even that does not guarantee success.

I guess you could say blue fire is trying to go for that kinda vibe, even if it ends being still kinda kiddy.

You know what would solve of copycat generic platformers?

Combine TWO different copycat generic genres into one so it's TWICE as derivative!

That does nothing to fix the issue and if anything further accentuates it.

They may have flown too close to the sun but my point still stands. Even though Pokemon has had such a grip on its audience for decades now, that still didn't stop Palworld from selling well.

Lilac got plastic surgery. She don't look like that anymore.

this felt kinda ehh and assetey at first, but it grew on me more and more the time i spent with it
fun game
also played the free dlc with lots of gauntletey levels
good fun and some nice music

youtube.com/watch?v=VE7KPYKBqYY

what if he came back and put all of those scrimblo bimbos in their place?

Designer words don't apply here. Just use your own words.
I get that somewhat, however it fits with her being rocket-boosting robot. The stick legs and hat ribbons trail behind her in a cool way. Her face still looks cute and expressive, which matters because it's the most prominent part of her design anyway.

co-opting twitter tranny slang

farts

Sega should just go back to pic related as their mascot, let's be honest.

smashnigger subhumans such as yourself are twittertards by proxy, you don't belong here and also YWABANF

Bimbo scrimblos...

i don't even play smash, you're just a triggered newfag

adopting 2019 twitternigger lingo makes you a le epic oldfag

oh the ironing
an astounding lack of self awareness on this play

if you weren't around here when scrimblo bimblo was an often used term that makes you a newfag yes

keep embarrassing yourself more kiddo

Steal from other fictions works. That’s what all the other scrimblos did.
Mario is Popeye
DK is King Kong
Sonic is Mickey Mouse
Crash Bandicoot is Taz
Link is Peter Pan
Spyro is your typical fantasy dragon

You mean the last Fighters Pass DLC of Ultimate? Fucking newfag.

which is funny after seeing everyone here complaining about "nudevs" trying to imitate other existing designs instead of coming up with unique shit.

Make them look like something. These guys don't look like anything. I don't know or care what the deal is with Misshapen Beet Head Guy or Skylanders Rayman or Clownina Lightyears.

Spark is just a poorly dressed mashup of Sega mascots but hilariously I think his design beats the others because he's at least explicable.

what the fuck is that thing?

that's Spark the Electric Jester

oh. yeah I guess I can see it

Based Spark enjoyer

Strife trooned out and instead of working, they used part time volunteer labor instead of doing shit themselves.
Also, shitloads of pointless NPCs in hub worlds that are stupidly detailed for no reason and nobody gives a fuck about them. Also the game was shadowdropped for no reason.

Started playing this today and its bretty fun. very basic gameplay loop but i haven't gotten tired of it yet

I don't play smash, it came around a post melee game but I couldn't tell you wich one as they all look like the same to me
i'm pretty sure the ridley memes were still around so he wasn't in yet

I think the electric part should be more obvious. The hat or the hair things on the back of his head should be lighting shaped. Both might be too much.

spark looks like a default model you'd use until you got a real character in mind, except that idea never came.

default model you'd use until you got a real character in mind, except that idea never came.

That worked for Kirby.

Literally came from twitter fags, in response to people wanting cartoony characters over Fire Emblem/JRPG/Swordsmen.

No, placeholders are simple for maximum clarity and ease of removal. You wouldn't dress one in a brown coat and technicolor fool's cap and red rainboots and shit. In fact nobody should dress like that

She's a beloved character remembered fondly. Nobody is going to give a shit about Penny in a year, let alone 28. That matters a bit more than sales. To everyone who isn't an accountant, anyways.

Footfags. Go figure.

Kirby works because every character in his universe is a colorful blob that does cute things just like him an live in cute blobby worlds. Spark doesn't work because every other character and location in his universe has a much more complex design than him, making him look like an unfinishe character.

These designs are just shit.