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New release has a soundtrack made by a rapist

This is not ok

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No formal charges were filed in connection with the allegations, and the statute of limitations for civil proceedings has since expired

Why do they always wait years and years to come out with this shit ?

New release has a soundtrack made by a rapist

no one sane gives a fuck
whatever shit people do in their free time is not my problem . if i like their work i'll consume it
oblivion was always shit anyway

PCGAYMER

Listen and believe is more powerful than actual evidence and a police report in the modern first world. Well so long as the accused isn't a hollywood exec. Funny how Weinstein got off scot free.

I don't give a fuck lol

It would have been souless

I wonder why games journalism is on its last legs

Rape isn't real and should be legalized.

OP is a rapist (alleged)
congrats you're now cancelled

wh.. what???!! this is SO WRONG i can't take it
i didn't know this fact before buying the game, but now i can't refund
im going to donate money to rape-prevention institutions now to calm my mind

lol just separate the art from the artist.

I remember when PCGamer was one of the gaming magazines that was halfway decent

Jesus, what's that been, 20 years now?

Can’t a single fucking moron separate the art from the artist? This is why people complain about the left so much.

I'm still waiting on the day Jagex removes all the iconic Runescape music because the composer drunkenly touched his niece's chest one time.
Fucking clown world.
Impossible in clown world.

Let's see his Chinatown 4k UHD article

It's great, actually. We need to support more innocent Men when females falsely accuse them. I believe that if a female falsely accuses a Man of a crime, she should then be a victim of said crime.

It's done so she can get a bit of fame and pity. Usually most females do this at times when they are 'stressed'. We see it quite often in situations when a deadline at work is coming up, suddenly Shaniqua is now a victim of racism/sexism/other-isms because her boss, decided that 'she needs to retype two sentences to make it sound more friendly'

he makes good music so im just gonna say it, he earned those rapes

don't worry, they'll be out of business soon

So now that polygon is gone PC gamer is next right? Or are they still getting government funding.

allegations

i heard the monsters at pc gamer are kidnapping children and raping them to death in their ginger bread rape dungeons.

So all these people trying to go on witch hunts against composers like Soule, Wise, and O'Donnell either because of their politics or because of flimsy #MeToo accusations will TOTALLY hold the same standard of conduct and pass appropriate judgement when all the tranny composers who made all the beloved indie shit like Celeste or Pizza Tower inevitably get caught for being creepy groomers...right?

Even if he raped a dozen women it doesn't change the fact I love Oblivion's soundtrack and I'm glad they kept it.

allegations

as soon as you see a picture of the "woman" who made the allegations you know it's made up

He's literally not a rapist and people who claim he is should be FIRMLY scolded for their slander.

dear fucking lord... then whats next? Mario needs to be cancelled altogether because Miyamoto kissed his wife in the cheeks in public while drunk at the company's Xmas party?

why not cancel everything because EVERY SINGLE PERSON OUT THERE HAS DONE SOMETHING BAD IN THEIR MEANINGLESS LIVES!? this is just sickening, for christ sake.

im sure Mr. Rogers actually slapped his wife one day because he was mad, does that mean he has to be cancelled too!? GOD!

relax buddy. its just the last gasps of a dying business.

I don't care what artists do in their private lives,
unless they're a pedophiles or leftoids, but I repeat myself.

Same. The only time I would feel an artist deserves to be depersoned is if they harm a child.

It's cool how it's been years and yet nothing ever became of those allegations. Innocent until proven guilty. Allegations don't mean shit if you slink away the moment a police officer or lawyer asks for details.

Shouldn't they be asking why rapists make better music?

Jeremy Soule is the greatest video game composer of all time and he's also an innocent man. Sad to see he was fired because of politically motivated slander originating from a claim made by a mentally ill individual with no evidence. He literally deserved none of this, and no one seems to care about the lack of evidence, or that this blatant lie is still propagated by slanderous online propaganda outlets. I wish he would sue and clear his name, but it seems like he's been crushed by all the pressure. This is what happens to good men in this world. It's fucking sad.

the allegations

made up garbage, PC Gamer is unironically ragebait slop at this point

God I fucking hate PCG. Bunch of subhuman troglodytes. Let me guess, the comments section of that article was pre-emptively locked too?

I fucking dare you to make a better OST for Oblivion.
that would've been the 1st complaint if they replaced it with some slop

jeremy soule was never arrested, nor did he face court proceedings over these allegations
he was accused at the time when the major fad was getting white men fired from the games industry by accusing them of all sorts of thing

#believeher!

the fact is he was falsely accused as part of a grander plan to remove white men from the gaming industry, and fill those positions with folx who share the message

PLEASE CLICK ON OUR ARTICLE WE NEED MONEY

Nobody actually cares and these sites are dying from lack of traffic.

at this point

That's what it always was. Clickbait. And if anyone in this thread saw OP and visited their website, it worked.

pic

Jesus christ
I have no standards and I wouldnt touch that with a 10 foot pole

Why can't Anon Babble admit that there are good games made by trans developers?

Still not my problem.

depends on the art for me, in some cases a story will feel different if you know the artist's background
like how realizing that Rowling is a retarded liberal makes harry potter really fucking funny in how much it solves nothing of its plot

i don't support or endorse mentally ill child molesters

Very problematic, you just directly funded a rapist asshole

I dont' know. I'm not into celebrity bullshit. I only look at the company name and judge not anything else.
And I only judge if previous games they made are good or shit.

Better question: Why is no one ever suing for defamation?

Polanski is a great movie maker

kek 20 years ago I read gamespy
in 2009 (I think) they gave Empire Total War a perfect score and it didn't work out of the box. Gamergate was no surprise to some.

Seriously. I don't know anything about this situation but it seems like if you accuse someone of rape, either you or the person you accused should be going to jail.

Who unironically reads PC Gamer articles?

But seriously, Bethesda should publicly apologize for firing him with no evidence and treating him as guilty, then grovel and plead, fully prostrate, for him to come back for double the going rate for TES6.

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Rembrandt instantly proves you 100% wrong.

Damn why no one told me this before, buying 2 copies right now

soule

he raped her pronouns away

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why would anyone care everyone still loves elvis

He fell out with Bethesda because they used his music without his permission at a concert.

Because it never happened and since there is no trial they don't have to prove it happened however the public will believe them causing harm to the accused while the accuser gets praise, pity, and attention.

because the standard for defamation is extremely high and unless its some very high profile person doing it the chances of you getting anything out of it are slim
in this case he would have to have concrete proof that he was losing job opportunities or his mental health has heavily declined as a result of false allegations
on top of that he would have to prove that the girl knew that the allegations are wrong which is pretty much impossible to prove

I’m glad these sites are shutting down one by one. It’s nothing but paid reviews and clickbait now

in this case he would have to have concrete proof that he was losing job opportunities

Such as him not working on TES6?

If you don't retain ANY evidence or ANY incriminating information beyond "dude, trust me, bro", I'll call bullshit on any and all claims of traumatic experience. So should any judge and jury -- otherwise you can just do away with the legal concept of defamation entirely and allow everyone to ruin each others life with wild accusations.

he would need to have letter/email directly from bethesda where they specifically quote these allegations as the reason they are not working with him anymore
its that fucking ridiculous

on top of that he would have to prove that the girl knew that the allegations are wrong which is pretty much impossible to prove

That actually seems like the easiest part to prove since you know damn well if you were raped or not, and if there's no conviction it means you knowingly lied.

Betterer question: why don't people hire asssassins to kill people who make false accusations?

in this case he would have to have concrete proof that he was losing job opportunities or his mental health has heavily declined as a result of false allegations

In this case all of it applies.

that the allegations are wrong which is pretty much impossible to prove

You can't prove a negative, defendant needs to prove that the accusation are true ad/or that they've could reasonably believe them to be true.

"dude, trust me, bro"

Does not suffice.

If this is performative retardation, then you do have to much talent for you own good.

Worked with that Karlos jobbers guy

and/or that they've could reasonably believe them to be true.*

To expand on that: if absolutely no one noticed or learned in any which way of your traumatic experience, then either it wasn't a traumatic experience or you've just made it up.
Traumatic experiences (like rape) leave their marks.

Avellone fought back suing for libel and won but it doesn't matter. He was proven innocent and is still cancelled by these trannies.

I think the voice actor for Kael'thas in WoW was also proven innocent but he was still erased.

fuck off, "Wes"

jeremy soule did the oblivion soundtrack? i only know his name because of the awesome soundtrack he did for the early harry potter games

she can say that she was scared to come forward at that time and now the statue of limitations is expired
unless she made a specific claim like "he raped me on 1st of may 2004" and you have direct evidence that you were doing something else at that

You can't prove a negative, defendant needs to prove that the accusation are true ad/or that they've could reasonably believe them to be true.

If that was the case then you would be effectively scaring people from coming forward since if they for one reason or another can't prove that their accusation was true they open themselves up for a lawsuit right after that. This would
just because someone hasn't been proven guilty does not mean that the person who accused them has lied.
What you would need for example is a recording or message of her saying that she knows its not true but then says it anyway

I didn’t even know jeremy soul got canceled

He was proven innocent and is still cancelled by these trannies.

Then he should continue suing everyone who still perpetuates the accusation and financially ruin them.

I agree. There are good games made by men and women.

you guys are always so adamant on saying that these women lie.

you know, it's possible he raped someone. rape exists. just saying.

soule

a woman lied about being horrifically victimised because.... BECAUSE SHE JUST DID OK YOU FUCKING ROASTIE

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Kamala would have a lot to say about this if you chuds had voted right.

Because the american (((justice))) system isn't about who is right, it's about who can afford to spend the most on lawyers.

be me

be woman

wake up one day

realize people are not paying as much attention to me as I'd like (I need infinite attention)

already tried going to the gym in yoga pants and pasties, the high from that has worn off

date men I have no interest in so they can simp for me, this also has gotten boring

not pretty or famous enough to strut with important people

I've got it! I'll accuse a somewhat known person of raping me, and I'll wait until the statute of limitations expires on everything so that I don't have to prove my claim

People will talk about this for weeks! Best part is I will suffer no consequences for this because of my vagina!

Giving women rights was the second worst mistake ever made in the western world.

Guild Wars 1 soundtrack is also composed by him

If that was the case then you would be effectively scaring people from coming forward since if they for one reason or another can't prove that their accusation was true they open themselves up for a lawsuit right after that. This would

this would just cause people to not go to the police in the first place for the fear of retaliation*

And my tiktok feed will still have little kids and zoomers stacking speed/acrobatics/athletics through skooma and custom spells with GEEKED UP PLAYING XBOX ALL DAY blasting for three months.

TES6 without Soule

how about no

People who try to use someone's crimes to somehow undermine and dislike their work are the weirdest fucking people. Like I don't care if they're a rapist, a murderer, or a child predator. If they made good art, I'm going to enjoy that art.

Also Morrowind, Skyrim, Baldur's Gate, Knights of the Old Republic, EverQuest online, Dawn of War, Guild Wars...

if you got raped then yes by all means go the the cops and try to get justice
but if you come out 20 fucking years in the future when you know you won't be pressured into going to the police and forced to prove anything essentially throwing accusations that are impossible to defend from then go fuck yourself

What's next? Asking for evidence? American laws don't need those.

how does him raping make his music sound worse? He wasn't raping on the job they were entirely separated

If that was the case then you would be effectively scaring people from coming forward since if they for one reason or another can't prove that their accusation was true they open themselves up for a lawsuit right after that.

If the experience doesn't impact your behaviour (e.g.: a girl claiming rape decades after, but never stopping to party 24/7), prompts you to seek medical help (physical or mental) or speak with friends about it, then it's not worth uttering accusations concerning it to begin with.

This would just because someone hasn't been proven guilty does not mean that the person who accused them has lied.

If you can't prove someone has done xyz, you should publically accuse them and instead collect evidence.

What you would need for example is a recording or message of her saying that she knows its not true but then says it anyway

If your so-called traumatic experiencre goes unnoticed for several decades and the trauma does not manifest (e.g.: self-destructive tendencies as in the case of child sex abuse), it's a figment of your imagination. In which case you don't need legal help, but either sanctions if malicious or professional mental health counseling if delusional.

Scot free

Anon, Weinstein is doing 16 years in prison right now

you should NOT** publically accuse them and instead collect evidence.

Bleh.

You can't prove a negative, defendant needs to prove that the accusation are true ad/or that they've could reasonably believe them to be true.

Feel free to cite to case law precedent on defamation being proven following a rape accusation

pretty much
the other creatura who accused him and then didn't even go for a civil case was just delusional and butthurt bc she isn't as good of a singer as she thinks she is so she just wanted to ruin someone for the sake of it

Good to see PCGamer is doing their best to be right behind Polygon.

be raped

don't go to the police, because nothing happens if you do

wait 15 years

accuse rapist on social media

rapist is cancelled

based victim 2bh

Alright, I'm baited. That's pretty low of PC Gamer.
I really enjoyed reading their site and magazine in the 2000s. :/

Who?

Feel free to cite

Anon, I've started off with: .

I genuinely think that vast majority of those people who come out 20 years after the fact are lying, absolutely
the issue is that you can't really separate and "punish" them without "normal" people being hit as collateral damage
if you've lived with it for 20 years without saying anything then there is no reason to start now, but again even if 19/20 are liars its impossible to punish them all because this 1/20 innocent person will get fucked too

I support rape and Todd Howard

So you would rape Todd...?

The better question is why anyone works for Bethesda, after what happened to him and Mick Gordon.

He raped a little girl?

and the answer is because the law doesn't allow:

defendant needs to prove that the accusation are true ad/or that they've could reasonably believe them to be true.

Because 99% of these case are found to be fake when they get to trial

The soundtrack is arguably the best part, what are you talking about?

Holy shit WHO THE FUCK CARES

They dont want to be raped... they want to be dominated by a good looking man.

Gee I wonder why games journalism is dying?

allegations

So the """""""""""""""""""""journalists""""""""""""""""""""" are peddling rumours now?

consenting to being raped

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if you've lived with it for 20 years without saying anything then there is no reason to start now, but again even if 19/20 are liars its impossible to punish them all because this 1/20 innocent person will get fucked too

How could punishing the 19/20 negatively impact the 1/20? Honest question and no slight intended: have you ever dealt with someone who has suffered a traumatic experience (or suffered one yourself)? Traumatic experiences will throw the individual off, you can't fake it -- and you can't hide it, even in social isolation (the isolation itself is a manifestation).

For example: dealing with love interests who have suffered sexual abuse in the past is a true headache (even if they've managed to overcome the trauma).

defendant needs to prove that the accusation are true ad/or that they've could reasonably believe them to be true.

No, they don't. The burden of proof is on the plaintiff in civil matters and proving a crime didn't happen is often impossible, hence the abysmal conviction rate for perverting/obstruction in criminal courts. A civil court's standard of proof actually works against the plaintiff in rape cases, as "... on the balance of probability" is a mutual standard.

CARLOS!

Given the usual accusations and accusers, I'd feel more like God talking to Abraham and tell you to find me even a single accusation that's true.

and the answer is because the law doesn't allow

Anon, by that logic and understanding of the law, I can make up bullshit about you, ruin your life (financially and otherwise) and there's nothing you can to about it, so long as my lies are ahead of your efforts to prove me lying.
It's not litigated because of stigmata and an infantile unterstanding of morality.

How many thousands of people worked on this game? We need to background every one before playing it?

you can't fake it -- and you can't hide it

And yet thousands of women do for 10-40 years and then only come forward when they feel they can get the maximum payout and any evidence is long gone. Curious.

PC Gamer

Tick-tock trannies. You will soon join the rest of the "journalists" at the unemployment office.

The difference between "justice" and "social justice" is one bypasses the courts in favor of mob vengeance.

You can have a romantic sex with a girl. 20 years later she decides it wasn't romantic anymore and that you forced her. now you are a rapist.

and the answer is because the law doesn't allow:

Then let me rephrase my intital question: why are people not making up bullshit that cannot be proven false by the target of the accusation (i.e.: would be defamation plaintiff)?

How could punishing the 19/20 negatively impact the 1/20?

how do you differentiate whenever or not they are lying?
you can't punish them based on criteria like "you lived normally for 20 years without reporting it so you couldn't have been really raped". Yes I think its very fucking likely that she is lying but you can't throw someone into jail because its "likely" they falsely accused someone

Why do games media think anyone gives a shit about this sort of thing? Gamers dont care and normies certainly dont care.

Going to court is expensive as it is, and defamation requires proving several difficult factors like malice, direct proof that the defamation specifically caused harm, that the defamatory claim was indeed defamatory and more. All of this can easily be countered by the bitch crying and claiming that she felt abused unless you have top tier evidence of her shit.

allegations

so he is innocent, why would this subhuman leftoid even write about this?

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Anon, I'm not sure if you're understanding my point.
I'm not talking hypothetically, I'm saying you can look at publicly accessible case law to see what the standard is for proving defamation, how the courts have applied it and reach a definite answer to your question.

Yeah, curious indeed. Maybe if people stopped infantalizing each other and bastardizing the law, and were punished for exploiting the court of public opinion, in defiance of court of law, things msy change (in general).

It's literally the HR department, which is populated by the same green haired fat lesbian freaks as the gaming activist websites that lie about this shit

Reminder that "cancelling" is an attempt to provoke a suicide while giving yourself plausible deniability for doing so.

wow, let me go check if his music still sounds good.

I guarantee you that if they came out and said they are bringing him back to do the music for the next game literally nobody would be mad other than a very tiny loud minority of weirdos from resetera or whatever.

Who gives a shit. If he's good I don't care.

let me know if it sounds rapey

Literally for clicks
That's also why people can't write succinct headlines now

PC Gaymer

Just follow polygon already

Because if you're a white male who has been accused by a woman, you're innocent until proven guilty. The process is the punishment. That's why so many women seek revenge on men who pissed them off by leveling false accusations like this. Plus, there are no consequences for their lies. In a system like this, they literally have no incentive not to lie if their goal is revenge on an ex lover.

you can't punish them based on criteria like "you lived normally for 20 years without reporting it so you couldn't have been really raped".

I've covered this in the rest of the reply. In short: you shouldn't just accuse someone publically, but put your money where your mouth is and sue.

The very purpose of the court of law is to limit if not entirely avoid the tragedies caused by the court of public opinion.

It doesn't make any difference to these people if there's evidence or not. They want you to Believe. All. Womyn.

believe women you fucking CHUD!

Allege something against someone

He's won in court over it before

It's still the scarlet letter regardless if he wins

Is this what it was like living in the soviet union?

Going to court is expensive as it is, and defamation requires proving several difficult factors like malice, direct proof that the defamation specifically caused harm, that the defamatory claim was indeed defamatory and more.

If the accusation threatens to ruin your career and livelyhood, and if you have not committed the crime: why not sue?
You're losing money and time anyways.

I'm not talking hypothetically, I'm saying you can look at publicly accessible case law

Anon, I am talking principles. If arbitration hinges on social stigmata either way, then it's a perversion of the legal system and can be exploited, effortlessly.

buy his soundtrack on his own store, directsong

order doesn't get fulfilled for years

no digital version available because it makes piracy easy and he thinks piracy is as bad as the holocaust

Fuck you Jeremy Soule

all of these posts are written by mid-40s biological men btw
not to judge your preferred fanfiction or anything, but this is just how reddit has worked for a long time

It was purposeful, it could never stand up in court.
Remember how every normalfag was completely against Johnny Depp until it turned out his Ex was insane in court? The same journalists who burned Depp are doing this now with Soule.

See now this would be a real reason to dislike the guy.

rapist
artist
rapist
artist
rapist
artist
rapist
artist

Coincidence? No.

rap artist

The world's first rarptist!

AHHHH THE OBLIVION SOUNDTRACK IM HEARING RAPE AHHHHH

You know games journalism is dying when they make a hit piece over old news.
Couldn't Soule sue this talentless hack though, considering he was found innocent?

That's what the word "allegedly" is for.

he was never found innocent bc neither of them pressed charges, it was #metoo publicity grifting and nothing more

I remember when they were good too, It's like Empire magazine, they used to be a great film mag but a few years back I was reading it and stumbled on an article lisping pure hatred against white men for some black film not doing well and I immediately refused to buy another copy again.

tainted by association

oh cool, so it's not just people who are guilty for associating with him, it's musical notes too

Oh goody, that's EVEN WORSE.
Fuck the left. I don't like Trump, but I'm so glad they'll have to suffer four whole years of him upsetting them, because they deserve to be miserable.

Hey guys Wes Fenlon raped me 13 years ago. It's too late to sue or gey him arrested but I think he should lose his job at least.

in a world with 10000 composers, why hire the guy who MIGHT be a rapist and groomer?

Because his portfolio is better than the other composers and there's quite literally no evidence against him.

except all the hours of testimony that says otherwise

because he's talented
also leftoids are against him, so that's an extremely strong indication he's an innocent victim

It's kind of funny how trannies want to remove all judgements based on merit and make it based on how good a person they are, when they're trying to force children to fulfill their sexual fetishes.

Links and evidence or you're just a typically lying lefty. Come on, coward, show us!

Most people are sensible enough not to perpetuate the accusation, especially those people who it'd be worth taking to court over it. He's still persona non grata in the industry, though, as far as we know.

You should only use AI then, cause you can never know for sure what someone might do.

Didn't he scam a kickstarter or something?

Looked it up and it's a mess of convictions, overturns, and retrials.

Until the AI becomes self aware and goes around sexually molesting people.

Games journos are the Japanese holdouts of wokefaggotry.
Their DEI masters have surrendered already but they're refusing the order to stand down.

I guess they're waiting for Jason Schreier to show up in person and tell them to come home.

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It's weird, varg vikernes straight up worried someone in a rival band, admitted to it, and made burzum music from prison. No one ever tried to cancel him, until he started denouncing the left. But have no proof that you raped someone, now that's cancel worthy

I'm waiting for them to seriously fuck up in this new climate and hopefully get legal action against them. They feel untouchable and it looks like they'll screw up any minute now and finally get some comeuppance for being evil pieces of shit.

Anon, I am talking principles.

No, you're not. You say

why not sue?

You're not talking about principles and the morality of the situation, you're talking about how the law actually works and asking why people are not suing.
The real life answer is that the law does not work the way you keep asserting it does. People do not sue under defamation because defamation does not have a standard that matches what you keep asserting in your posts.

hope Soule sues them or something
the article does say that his work "taints" Oblivion
if that's not libel idk what is

against a woman? in court? A woman desperately crying in court about her battles against mental health? an american court? a woman who donated $5 to charity? in an american court? against a woman? Really?

That's some vintage culture war stuff.

everyone else's problem

wrong, not my problem

The man was accused by a woman but was never charged with any crime.
That means he's guilty according to insane people.

inb4 Zur gets the boot

that's not her real face

PC Gamer should be the next "news" site to die.

muttian grandstanding

While the manifestations of legal systems around the world may differ, the underlying principles do not. If you utter an accusation in public without

A) intent to litigate

B) evidence to prove to it

you are ought to be sanctioned for it.

Principle doesn't care about muttian case law, nor does case law matter if defamation cases concerning accusations of rape are hardly ever litigated because of afromentioned social stigmata and an infantile understanding of morality (and deaftism/learned helplesaness). Just as much as the accuser should be legally obligated to sue, so is the accused morally obligated -- and should be socially incentivized -- to sue, when the accuser does not.
Pretending that the legal systems (and societies) that allow this sorry state of affairs (to repeat) are 'functioning as intended' is genuinely ridiculous.

Even if Soule was guilty, that doesn't mean I will like the Oblivion soundtrack any less. I mean, R Kelly was actually found guilty of actual crimes in court but I Believe I Can Fly is still one of my all-time favorite songs. If I refuse to use a media simply because I did not agree with the artists involved, then I would not be watching any hollywood movie.

I would not have bought it if they changed the soundtrack. Doubt I'm alone in that either.

You're not talking about principles and the morality of the situation, you're talking about how the law actually works and asking why people are not suing.

Today, Anon learns that you can sue over almost anything in civil court, and rape accusations without any actual basis is absolutely an offense that can and has seen multiple court cases in civil court.

not my problem

You can't prove a negative, defendant needs to prove that the accusation are true ad/or that they've could reasonably believe them to be true.

wrong. defamation is a civil case, not a crime. in a normal civil case, whoever has the more convincing argument wins. however, a defamation case specifically runs into the first amendment protections on free speech. which means to have a winning argument, you effectively need to prove that the person isn't just materially wrong, but that they are willfully lying. it's a good thing you can't be sued just for saying something wrong, else you'd be paying off lawsuits for the rest of your life anon.

the fuck do you mean rapist?

If something is excellent, I do not care about the crimes of the creator. In this case especially since he was never charged with a crime.

by a rapis

Never happened

rape exists

Post video proof right now or you have to go back

separate the art from the artist

*sigh*
It's so depressing that in 2025 gamers still have this selfish attitude.
Be better, man

Cancel culture isn't real

Cancel culture:

you wouldnt be missing anything. art isnt that special.

When I've asked the initial, general question and followed them up with rather general assertions about reasonable legal proceedings, I've not accounted for monolingual mutts nor that muttian laws is so backwards as to demand the plaintiff in a defamation case to disprove defendants accussation.

which means to have a winning argument, you effectively need to prove that the person isn't just materially wrong, but that they are willfully lying.

In a functioning legal system the party who utters an accusation is ought to prove that it's a true statement or that they didn't do so with malicious intent by elaborating on whatever information led them to believe (just like plaintiff needa to prove damages).

it's a good thing you can't be sued just for saying something wrong, else you'd be paying off lawsuits for the rest of your life anon.

So you mean to say that you shouldn't be expected to prove an accusation or explain your belief in it, when it does cause tangible harms?

Problem with many modern games is the "artists" do not separate their art from themselves enough.

Jeremy didn't rape anyone and if he did it doesn't matter. Women exist for man's pleasure. God made it so.

That music is immaculate

I dont care who he 'raped'

I won't buy this game, it's made by leftroons

LEARN TO SEPARATE THE ART FROM THE ARTIST YOU FUCKING CHUUUUUDDDS!!!

Games Journalism deserves to suffer even more

I feel like being contrarian (and correct): the case is a mess because the majority of evidence was inadmissable, the witnesses keep contradicting each other and themselves, and the worst they can actually pin on him is that women went on dates with him for roles, which isn't illegal. At one point the prosecution's witnesses devolved into just character defamation that had no actual bearing on rhe case.

Oh and also Weinstein wouldn't have let Zendaya and the rest of her ugly mutt actress friends happen to Hollywood.

Nah, only lefty nigger faggots do that so they have an excuse to hate and cancel anything they don't agree with. Soule's music will always be kino, period. Oh, and fuck women.

SOULE composed this after getting into a car crash and said it was about the fragility of life. Imagine that playing in MGSV during the car crash scene...

his music is only okay
the only real standout track is the morrowind main theme

listening to his non-elder scrolls stuff is weird because he doesn't have creative range and it all sorta blends
like all composers have their own flavor that you can hear in different properties, but this dude's flavor is corn syrup
food analogy

god i wish she were actually raped

I thought it was his daughter committing sudoku?

His music is the soul of the series. It is so retarded that he's not gonna make the music for TES6.
Bethesda should be actively campaigning to clear his name so they can use him again in good conscience. It should not be that hard considering there was no evidence and no court proceedings

food analogy fag has terrible taste

As expected

I don't mind if the art/game is made by leftists artists, art is inherently liberal after all. I care when they make their art itself leftist, especially when they ruin the immersion with it, and then expect me to buy the art.

how can it be my problem if I don't care

You would struggle to find 1 average video game playing person who cares about this.

You know why. Cause is bullshit.

reading comprehension

Instead of taking that single sentence, on its own, review the context of what's around it and the posts preceding it.

isn't this defamation at this point

allegations

Do you speak english? Do you know what this word means?

Bethesda dropped Soule because rape and cum smelling antics

ditches Mick for office politics bullshit

audio engineers placing silver spoons on the sides of their monitors to watch for corpo snipers looking to suicide them for the pettiest of reasons

We're talking specifically about defamation (which you yourself asked about). Defemation is a specific cause of action with its own standard that needs to be proven. Nowhere did I say anything about the completely separate concept of malicious prosecution.

Pretending that the legal systems (and societies) that allow this sorry state of affairs (to repeat) are 'functioning as intended' is genuinely ridiculous.

Again, those are two separate arguments. See:

You're not talking about principles and the morality of the situation, you're talking about how the law actually works and asking why people are not suing.

If you want to argue how the law should work, great. However, you explicitly asked why people are not suing for defamation and the simple answer is because defamation has a defined standard that is very difficult to meet in these circumstances.

I hate women so much

Imagine being so fat you listen to music and think about corn syrup.

Fags hate him because hes an alleged rapist.
I hate him because hes a kike but that kike sure knows how to make good music.

Not my problem

maybe if elder scrolls games were good he could make good music like he did in ta

You don't know SOVLE like I do...
You don't love SOVLE like I do...
Fuck the histrionic cunts that tried to bring him down.
youtube.com/watch?v=82ArYDF6lEI

Why do people act like a person doing one bad thing invalidates everything they ever did in the past? If the work was good, it's good. What he did otherwise is between the relevant parties and not your concern.

You act like people care about or even knew about this person outside of the rape accusation. The only people who care about it are people who were never interested in this person's work to begin with.

However, you explicitly asked why people are not suing for defamation and the simple answer is because defamation has a defined standard that is very difficult to meet in these circumstances.

The so-called 'standard' depends on the legal system, yet no matter the standard: hardly anyone ever sues for defamation when accused of rape (or similar crimes) in the court of public opinion, without any evidence (circumstancial or otherwise) to back it up.

So, I may reiterate the initial question, I'll keep the hyperbole for emphasis: why is no one ever suing for defamation? I've stated my opinion on the matter several times.

im so happy hack gordon got cancelled

The so-called 'standard' depends on the legal system, yet no matter the standard

Provide an existing standard for defamation that you believe people would be able to win under and that would have jurisdiction of those cases.

t. farty marty

I dunno. After being exposed to game developers on social media, reevaluating everything they've done seem pretty common.

allegations

do people understand that (by definition) that means this is unconfirmed?

Because it's always a meme reason, when we read rape we think forced penis inside a vagina but in reality is something like this video related, black girl said she was raped by ths old guy because of what happened on this video, almost a decade later youtu.be/BM3bY-Pd6Vk?feature=shared now the video is being banned from YouTube except for this edits. Clown world

They probably have guidelines that require them to write it that way or they could open themselves up to law suits.
That and by writing 'allegations' it encourages more people to acknowledge and discuss the article even if just to say

do people understand that (by definition) that means this is unconfirmed?

Just ignore PCgamer, they have a massive hateboner for bethesda.

I dont know what your epic screenshot was supposed to prove that situation is by any definition rape

implying it's impossible to win a defamation case concerning accusations of rape and other sexual misconduct

Pick a search engine (and legal system and jurisdiction therein) of your choice, combine the terms:

wins

defamation case

sexual misconduct

sexual assault

rape

[legal system]

[jurisdiction]

You'll not only find court cases, you'll find atleast one article to every court case that laments the outcome on the basis of "dude, you have to trust xyz, bro" (no matter the constellation; hetero/homosexual or otherwise).

I only play games made by rapists.

My gf had a consenting "rape" kink. What it really means is they just want spontaneous sex with a hot guy.

implying it's impossible to win a defamation case concerning accusations of rape and other sexual misconduct

Never said or implied that. Reading comprehension issue or you're being intellectually dishonest.

everything else

I asked you, very clearly, to

Provide an existing standard for defamation that you believe people would be able to win under and that would have jurisdiction of those cases.

Because you claimed such a standard existed.

Because virtually all of these cases are american, and american justice is not about who's right, it's about who has the most money. And even if you win, you're still looking at at 5-7 figures loss because fat chance you'll ever actually see a dime of whatever compensation the court may have awarded you.

"Oh noes! We can't enjoy Oblivion's soundtrack anymore! We don't need evidence or court convictions! Just tears!" -PCGamer troons
These are the same people who watch Hollywood shit regardless of what groomers or pedophiles worked on it or produced it.

Never said or implied that.

Provide an existing standard for defamation that you believe people would be able to win under and that would have jurisdiction of those cases.

You're asking me to provide you example of a defamation standard that I

believe people would be able to win under and that would have jurisdiction of those cases

but you aren't implying that a defamation case concerning

those cases (= rape accusations, I assume)

is impossible to win?

Reading comprehension issue or you're being intellectually dishonest.

Yeah, I wonder what it is -- your argument so far hinges on muttian case law, that you wouldn't cite, and the assertion that most people don't bother defending themselves primarily because of the difficulty of proving their accuser lying. Is this the fabled Common Core in action?

he scammed 100k from his fans after starting beef with bethesda over skyrim OST concerts iirc.
all the praise he got made him an arrogant bastard and so he proceeded to fuck himself up and get himself blacklisted from the industry. muh wimmin had nothing to do with it in the end, he got into much more trouble than a hoe's accusations.

i don't mind him getting replaced but i do hope they realize that a good OST is at least 50% of the immersion quality for the player. with the right music even a desert can be pure magic. they better not underestimate that.

Because virtually all of these cases are american

Unfortunately the schtick of false accusations isn't limited to Muttopia.

and american justice is not about who's right, it's about who has the most money. And even if you win, you're still looking at at 5-7 figures loss because fat chance you'll ever actually see a dime of whatever compensation the court may have awarded you.

That's atleast an honest answer.

Bethesda better understand the aspects of their games that initially drew people in and kept them interested

Yeah good fucking luck.

your argument so far hinges on muttian case law, that you wouldn't cite,

All I've done is ask you you to provide a standard.
I'm not sure what the problem is. Unless you're talking out of your ass, you must have knowledge of some existing standard for defamation that people could be suing and winning under, which is why you're asking why nobody is suing for defamation.
I just want to know what real, existing standard you have in your mind, you still have not provided it.
It's the equivalent of saying

Why don't they make games like that one game that lets you jump three hundred feet in the air

and all I do is ask

what game is that?

at which point you just start talking in circles and going on and on without simply naming the game.
I asked you for a citation. That's all. Why are you beating around the bush?

Yeah, I guess they better gather around burn Pulp Fiction, Django Unchained, Inglorious Basterds and every other Tarintino movie because Harvey Weinstein is pedophile and a rapist. They’re going to do that any day now, right? They would be selectively moral hypocrites would they?

I hate women so much it's unreal

Because at worst they had a one-night stand and years later they saw an opportunity for clout/money/power. Same shit as all the bitches who accused trump of rape, like 30+ of them and nothing ever happened because nothing ever happened. Problem is, bitches didn't get punished for false rape claims so now every bitch does it.

Unless you're talking out of your ass, you must have knowledge of some existing standard for defamation that people could be suing and winning under, which is why you're asking why nobody is suing for defamation.

could be suing and winning under

at which point you just start talking in circles

Let's recap this encounter.

I've started off with a general question:

708857138: Better question: Why is no one ever suing for defamation?

Followed by this reply to another anon, and a fair general assertion:

708858351: You can't prove a negative, defendant needs to prove that the accusation are true ad/or that they've could reasonably believe them to be true.

Back and forth:

708859487: Feel free to cite to case law precedent on defamation being proven following a rape accusation.

[...]

708860697: Anon, by that logic and understanding of the law, I can make up bullshit about you, ruin your life (financially and otherwise) and there's nothing you can to about it, so long as my lies are ahead of your efforts to prove me lying.

It's not litigated because of stigmata and an infantile unterstanding of morality.

708861119: Anon, I'm not sure if you're understanding my point.

I'm not talking hypothetically, I'm saying you can look at publicly accessible case law to see what the standard is for proving defamation, how the courts have applied it and reach a definite answer to your question.

708861729: Anon, I am talking principles. If arbitration hinges on social stigmata either way, then it's a perversion of the legal system and can be exploited, effortlessly.

I think I can stop here: you insisted on muttian case law, when I told you I didn't care, you've started reframing the argument.

I'll bite: Tell me in which muttian state you're practicing and I'll fetch you a defamation case concerning sexual misconduct from that very state.

Pardon the one botched greentext.

Look anon, it's very simple. Your question is

why is nobody suing for defamation

and I asked

what existing standard would they sue under

that's it. I do not see that standard and you're still just talking around my very simple question.

check the comments

after scamming fans on kickstarter, soule went to patreon to scam them out of even MORE money

ahahahahahahaha what the fuck was he thinking
dude wanted to bad to be gaming's hans zimmer and threw it all away

Stop posting clickbait about

problematic

bullshit. Its designed for rage engagement specifically to get you frothing about wokeness or whatever the fuck.

Soule

A solid vidya composer. Whatever accusations against him aren't proven independently in a court, fairly, shouldn't bother anyone. Especially when its he-said-she-said shit like this. As far as kickstarter/patreon or whatever the fuck else thats worth discussing because there can be actual evidence but even if any of itr was true, it was independent from whatever he was commissioned to do on various games including Oblivion.

the soundtrack didn't rape anybody though
it's just a soundtrack...

The point has been made verbatim but people will continue to see these threads and then give these articles view just to "point out" how stupid they are.

has never heard of earrape before

Just ignore people actively trying to ruin everything

Nice try, nobody is falling for this argument anymore

Because the accusations are fake and brought out specifically because woman in question wants revenge or wants victim sympathy/gibs or both.

I'm still waiting on the day Jagex removes all the iconic Runescape music because the composer drunkenly touched his niece's chest one time.

Fucking clown world.
They shouldn't, but holy fucking shit, you're a massive fucking retard. The biggest clown in your clown world. End your life. Do it.

sole purpose of article is to get views

give it views

You know you can shit on journalist websites without spreading their articles and going on their website?

The themes for the games are good but the music in them is the most Ambient generic shit imagianble.

They never presented any evidence and the allegations so far are out of their asses.
Probably made by some "woman" that didn't like Jeremy.

no charges

no sentence

as soon as a man gets a small amount of success rest assured theres a conniving bitch waiting in the wings to ruin it for him.

At very least maybe we can get them to enact harm reduction from culture war brain damage by at least using archive links if they're going to go there to yell about it, so y ou're not giving clicks views or ad impressions to these publications that don't really care what's on the page so long as you're reading it? Same thing with any garbage from social media rather than reposting needlessly, at least use one of the anonymous frontends (ie invidious/piped for youtube, Nitter or Skyview for xitter/bluesky etc) or use the wayback machine/archive.

Stop being easy to manipulate. You can state your opinion without empowering a large part of why social media grifters and ragebait site operators do what they do.

it was independent from whatever he was commissioned to do on various games including Oblivion

not quite. soule got the idea for his fundraiser scam when he got triggered by bethesda doing skyrim in concert without involving him. he made his anger public aka he bit the hand that fed him and that's when bethesda parted ways with soule. as far as his fundraiser went to kickstart his own music projects, well, can't blame him for scamming his fans cause some of these cucks still believed soule would deliver after a whole fucking decade passed.

i don't mind him getting replaced but i do hope they realize that a good OST is at least 50% of the immersion quality for the player. with the right music even a desert can be pure magic

Based Kenshi enjoyer

what existing standard would they sue under

Anon, the pilpul is tiring. You're implying it's impossible to win a defamation case concerning sexual misconduct. In Muttopia the few relevant cases have been settled, so there is -- as expected -- basically no case law on the subject matter of defamation concerning sexual misconduct.

Let's have a look at other systems:

Australia: Graham v. ABC, McDonald v. Smith

UK: Sir Cliff Richard v. BBC; Andrew v. The Associated Newspapers Ltd; Johnson v. Stevenson

Ireland: Graham v. O'Reilly

France: Dominique Strauss-Kahn v. Le Figaro

Canada: Bissett v. The Globe and Mail; Smith v. Jones

South Africa: Gallo v. Sunday Times

India: Rajesh Khanna v. The Times of India

All of these cases have been won by the plaintiff (the accused), all of them concerned sexual misconduct. In all cases involving media outlets the original accuser has retracted the offending statements and apologized, before litigation. In short: you can win defamation cases in basically every legal system -- I am sure you could even win in Muttopia, if you have enough money to sustain the suit and enough discipline/willpower/patience to refuse settlment.

This is more or less what happened when a former friend of my sister's tried to sue her ex-boyfriend for "kidnapping" her.

Claims she was kidnapped and held hostage in his dorm room for an entire week.

Her lawyer starts checking for witnesses they can use to build their case.

Apparently his dorm is shared between him and 3 other guys, all of them say they have no idea what kidnapping she's talking about beyond her hanging out there a couple hours a day that week.

Expected dead end, they're probably in on it and defending him.

Calls my sister and asks her about it.

My sister has no idea what she's talking about.

Lawyer finds out she was supposedly out and about the entire time she was being held hostage.

Hung out with my sister and other friends multiple times during this.

Apparently didn't seem remotely distressed the entire time, kidnapper boyfriend was nowhere in sight the entire time, she made zero attempt to get help, and didn't seem anymore stressed or depressed than she usually is.

Lawyer gets fired when she suggests dropping the case, or at least not using my sister as a witness.

Friend tries to call her for the trial anyways.

My sister basically repeats what she said above.

That, among other things, completely shreds her friend's case.

Friend refuses to talk to my sister ever again after that.

You know you can shit on journalist websites without spreading their articles and going on their website?

which is what happened ITT

More than 100 people were credited with making the original version of Oblivion, and many more for the remaster—the credits last for 24 minutes. I'm glad we get to experience the passion they had for making an RPG that has some truly great quests in it, as well as some very silly stuff. But the soundtrack Bethesda is now selling as a standalone "app" in that $10 upgrade? That only has one name on it: Jeremy Soule. There's nothing complicated about the choice there.

This line is fair and I agree with it.

i was thinking of journey, actually.
youtube.com/watch?v=J4X6mBXidyY
road of trials is one of my favourite tracks from the game's OST.

there are people who think some millionaire would risk his career by doing anything to THAT

She probably just wanted his job. Also, if he wanted some pussy, he could afford a way better looking girl than THAT.

Only works for Government officials in "the club", and usually its easier to just pay those people off quietly.

It's pretty amusing how Boeing assassinated whistle blowers, and Epstein's accuser got assassinated last week, and we just all went w/e. lol

There are hundreds of successful artists that have ugly wives. And there are men that find a special kind of joy in getting away with rape. She probably didn't look like that when she got raped, either. Getting raped increases likelihood of danger hair.

video game website writing articles about anything but video games

No wonder the games press is disappearing.

It's such a fucking joke at this point

Jeremy Soule is actually Jewish. And this ugly bitch you posted is also Jewish.
So it was friendly fire lmao

Yeah, its wild. The real question is, are the other victims of Epstein also going to suddenly "commit suicide" until there aren't any of them left?

It's even worse, this sort of shit is often part of a coordinated takedown to remove someone inconvenient for political or financial reasons
Conveniently it's often used against cucks who endorsed such tactics being used against others but still

She probably didn't look like that when she got raped, either. Getting raped increases likelihood of danger hair.

Is the only amount of proof of her getting raped by him, her saying that she got raped by him?

You're implying it's impossible to win a defamation case concerning sexual misconduct.

I'm really not, you're just strawmanning that out of emotional attachment to this back and forth. Any case can be argued well enough to win, it's only a question of whether, without specific facts that would lend to a certain standard, any individual would want to spend the money on an unlikely outcome.

Australia: Graham v. ABC, McDonald v. Smith

UK: Sir Cliff Richard v. BBC; Andrew v. The Associated Newspapers Ltd; Johnson v. Stevenson

Ireland: Graham v. O'Reilly

France: Dominique Strauss-Kahn v. Le Figaro

Canada: Bissett v. The Globe and Mail; Smith v. Jones

South Africa: Gallo v. Sunday Times

India: Rajesh Khanna v. The Times of India

See, that's more like it. That's literally all I asked for.
Do you have links to the decisions on these cases so I could read more about them?

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I know I'm kind of an odd duck here on Anon Babble when it comes to this subject, but to me the reaction to what happens really tells the story.

If someone gets accused of raping and you're talking about a worthwhile artist that is a leading figure of one of the most successful games of all time, then the publisher is gonna look into this shit. They're gonna look for connections, have their own interviews, basically badger the guy with questions and try to get to the reality of it. It's in their complete best interest to not fire him if the allegations actually are false.

And though they have the excuse to use him here since it's a remastered and it has no new tracks (Again, proving that their default stance is to use him when they think they can get away with it), they have gone out of their way to not use him at all for anything since the allegations. That to me tells me that they believe the allegations, and they have more facts and more information on the matter than they do, so since I don't know the guy myself, I default to believe them.

But it could just be a lie

It could, anon, but if it were actually the case, I believe we'd be living in an apocalypse where every male artist of note has been cancelled by now. And that's just not the case. Occam's Razor tells me he really did rape her. It might not hold up in court, but it is what it is.

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It's in their complete best interest to not fire him if the allegations actually are false.

It's really not because the allegations alone and the association between the accused and the one employing them is enough that the negative PR isn't worth keeping them around.
I'm not saying that's right, but that's how companies work. If enough people call someone a rapist, it doesn't matter if they are proven 100% innocent, that will person will always be an accused rapist and a company doesn't want that association.

Ok, but then why did only some people get cancelled during the metoo shit and another couple of creeps since (Some of which are avowed leftists like Neil Gaiman)

If these were false accusations of successful men, how were these women smart and not deranged enough to not push their luck and only accuse who they could get away with it? Why are there still so many high profile men in the vidya industry, including CEOs?

I just don't buy it, man. I think he raped her.

Ok, but then why did only some people get cancelled during the metoo shit and another couple of creeps since (Some of which are avowed leftists like Neil Gaiman)

Could you reword that so as to be readable?

This

As in, could you re-write your entire post to be readable

If these #metoo accusations were false, then the strike that happened against male artists is too precise, too weak and too arbitrary, not to mention too short-lived.

It's going to be funny as hell when some random lady at Microsoft metoos him.

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separate art from the artist, idc who the dev is nor what they think. I'm only here for the games and not the dev's life story on how earthbound helped him come out of the closet(he emulated it/watched a letsplay)

Removing the music would have made the game Souleless.

How many boys do you think he raped since getting fired from Sony?

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All I did was present the basic concept that an accused rapist is not someone a company would want to keep around regardless of their work output.
You seem to be making assumptions that you can just reference people or events and assume others will know what you're talking about, it comes off as schizophrenic.

if that art was that important maybe, but it isnt.

that's the most schizo appeal to authority I've ever heard
hope karma gets ya

a rapist

so he was convicted and sent to jail for actually doing this crime, right?

how many of the ones that didnt go anywhere were jewish?

runescape has a soundtrack made by a convicted pedophile and people don't care looool

Pretty stupid angle to take when one of the biggest profile cases of this was Weinstein who is like most stereotypical jew caricature imaginable.

Not to mention Soule, who is also Jewish lol
This was in fact a culling of uppity Jews

germany was the home of hitler, nuke germany.
also america is full of rapists, nuke america.

I guarantee you they'd put out a rage article if they did change the ost. you can never win.

okay, so how many of the ones where they pretended nothing happened are jewish?

Trannoids have a lot more victim points than old white men, it might be pretty tough to get the accusations to spread.

How fucking lazy are you, go find out and then tell us

So Jews are white?

im just going to assume the vast majority of them.

Only when it suits them.

Go for it, also you retards are so bad at this sometimes I wonder if Hasbara is paying for you to muddy the waters

*nasally whining*

I'm really not, you're just strawmanning that out of emotional attachment to this back and forth.

Anon, responding to your pilpul is not a showcase of emotional attachment.

Any case can be argued well enough to win, it's only a question of whether, without specific facts that would lend to a certain standard, any individual would want to spend the money on an unlikely outcome.

Once plaintiff has made his case, defendant is forced to elaborate on the accusation -- unless plaintiff actually committed the crime or defendant has spent a considerable amount preparing for the scenario (e.g.: seeking therapy, keeping records or acting out in any which way), the only limiting factor is time/money and not outcome.
I'd wager the guess the vast, vast majority of false accusations are uttered precisely because few ever try to defend against them in court. There certainly is a reason that likewise few false accusations ever involve actual charges -- as that would escalate the matter to a criminal case.

Do you have links to the decisions on these cases so I could read more about them?

You can find every single one of them using a search engine of your choice with the afromentioned combination of terms or the title of the specific case (especially those involving media outlets).

Occam's Razor tells me he really did rape her.

Occam's Razor tells me that he was accused in the wake of social misengineering campaign turned social media into judge/jury and any ever so outrageous accusation into the pretext necessary to facilitate nepotism.

Marty is based.

kill yourself simp

Weinstein who is like most stereotypical jew caricature imaginable

Even more than him?

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Women should be raped anyway. They deserve it. Not that SOULe actually raped anyone.

The people who start this shit play defense for people like roman Polanski

Rapist OST

KINO

Anon, responding to your pilpul is not a showcase of emotional attachment.

It is when I have explicitly said numerous times that I'm not implying it's impossible to win a defamation case concerning sexual misconduct and you simply re-allege it in a conclusory manner.

defendant is forced to elaborate on the accusation

Certainly, but if the standard for defamation requires the Plaintiff themselves to satisfy certain elements and themselves raise certain allegations (to a certain standard of proof) the Defendant can argue that they have not satisfied that standard.

You can find every single one of them using a search engine of your choice with the afromentioned combination of terms or the title of the specific case (especially those involving media outlets).

I have and they are not coming up as known cases. Certainly, as the one referencing them, it should be trivial for you to link me to them?

60 minutes did blatantly lie thoughbeit

Donald Trump loves Rage Against the Machine and they hate it lmao

That US attorney chick who outed some jew for smuggling other jews from Israel into the US was also assassinated recently too

but uhh bro oblivion remake
trump
elon
minecraft movie
cost of living

TND

allegations

no proof

Jeremy willing to fully cooperate with an investigation

the accusers were not

says everything you need to know

I though pc gamer was going under? With bullshit like that it can’t be too soon.

They'll probably end up like Polygon, site sold off, everyone fired, and site turned into an ai article clickbait site,

weird, i remember playing oblivion and i didnt hear a single rap song on it

how can the dude that made the sond be a rapist if the soundtrack doesnt have rap songs???

You're losing money and time anyways.

Because as others have said, you have to prove you actually lost money, otherwise it's just hypothetical lost money
meanwhile attorneys cost non hypothetical money and it'll cost atleast $50k to get it into a court

why are you engagement baiting on an anonymous image board what the fuck is wrong with you

ever since the site came back up its been painfully obvious how much of the board is actual bots