Was it just dumb luck?

Was it just dumb luck?

No, its passion.
Passion is stripped away from devs when they work for large companies.
When passionate people get together with no corporate overhead to fuck them over, good things can happen.

no, it was p-
LITERALLY stole the words out my mouth. fpbp, /thread

having an eye for talent is a talent itself

Yes it was dumb luck he got people who could actually do something from those places

What happens when someone who knows what they're doing is in charge of hires and not some middle aged cunt HR woman

make game you want to make because you like video games

or

make game a CEO transplant who used to work in automotives wants because he wants a new yacht

I'm surprised to know that the composer is just an actual literal who they picked up from the streets. Everything about this game oozes soul despite being an UE5 game.

even reddit can make vidya

Anon Babble game when?

It was a combination of

Vision

Passion

Luck

The millennial demographic who refused to engage with turn-based anime JRPGs

But yeah like they found the composer on fucking Soundcloud so I think they earn it honestly

Wow, it's almost like all the people saying it's impossible to create your own game and find other impassioned developers are just people trying to cover up the fact that they're talentless and passionless antisocial nonces, and the reason they can't be the change they want to see in the world is because they're subhuman.

Holy based

yeah let me just scrounge up a few million bucks out of thin air lol

you forgot to mention the part where they managed to secure millions of dollars of funding from a publisher

What a fucking weeaboo

most of the core dev team were juniors who had almost no experience making video games

mogs last decade of mutt game

Most anons already know this but in a time where everyone has a social media presence for any creative stuff they do or can get paid to do half assed work on sites like Patreon, there aren't many talented people left on Anon Babble. Rather, there are talented people on Anon Babble, but they aren't going to use their talents here outside of things that don't take effort or time when they could do the same on those other platforms and get an actual return on their investment. There's a reason OC disappeared from this site, for the most part.

UE5 is just an engine, it can create pretty much anything you want in theory. Most big devs just make something generic nature and use basic templates, which causes much of it to look all samey. Complaining about the also of saturation in most games and faulting the engine would be silly for example since you can just put down a box in the level that lets you change the saturation levels and even tint the whole screen a certain color if you really wanted to.

Nah, I think theres a lot of actual talent in shitty studios like Ubisoft or Bethesda but they get absolutely fucked over by retards in charge that keep them from implementing or making cool.
I still remember that Bethesda dev game jam they did for skyrim where they made their own mods for fun and there was a lot of cool shit they made in a couple days like dynamic seasons.

I mean, it shows. It's actually distracting how janky the running and jump animations are but the game is solid all things considered, especially being the devs' first effort.

You don’t need millions to make a game like that in Unreal. I put together a good chunk of my map and already completed a nearly 4 hour soundtrack and so far I’ve spent maybe $1,000 for assets I would say. I might spent a few thousand more by the end of development for more assets and some contract work that I can’t do all on my own but I’m making a AAA tier game in some respects.

Yeah, he did. Why can't you? Are you really THAT pathetic? Oh wait no, I already know the answer fufufufufufufu

Minecraft

400+ team of ex AAA developers

countless connections to investors

hundreds of millions of dollars in funding from a major publisher with multiple offices around the world including london and shanghai

"""passion"""

You people are astonishingly naive.

wow so gamers made games??? industry changing...

I currently work in a start up that is held together by goofy hard working lovable people. I love our work. In the past two weeks an utter retard has been promoted to head of management and has immediately started fucking everything up. It's amazing how quickly the light has been stripped from everybody's eyes. One giant fucking corporate retard can easily ruin a lot of good people in one fell sloop. I'm happy for the Ubisoft escapees.

none of this is true though

400+ team of ex AAA developers

???

This, the devs are pretty creative as well since they made a video showing how to unfuck the default character models youtu.be/IkLcTS4KFNo?si=PhlQc91K5bLpte6M

That's Square Enix bro.

reddit and soundcloud makes game but Anon Babble cant

Why isn't your boss intervening if that guy is destroying his company?

Theres really only like 40 main developers if you count the outsourced korean animators. The rest are QA testers, musicians, and translators

no it's what happens when your manager actually manages you instead of operating purely on vibes

via BBC

ayyooooooooo

Corporate game development just sounds like actual hell with zero stability. Every office is just a constant rotation of fresh blood.

survivor bias

Wish I knew. I'm not in the meetings. I'm just watching all of our work be destroyed in the name of improving efficiency. The guy essentially breaks shit then asks why it's broken. He's our own little Trump.

Ex AAA developers are the ones who have the skills, and have dealt with the soul crushing reality of corporate.
Investors are fine if they arent meddling with the game itself.
Thats literally the definition of a passion project from actual skilled devs.
They arent going to build something in their basement by themselves, they have a whole network in the business to work with.

AAA development does not actually function well at all, especially when it's dictated by the temperamental moods of whichever manager you have or whichever executive has made the game his pet project
see spider-man 2 and insomniac asking "why are we not making three or four games for a fraction of the cost?"

never. Were are all hikki-neets with zero skills here

what I think the industry needs, and all industries where white men operate, is more outsourcing to india

My manager is a woman and shes always just sitting with me talking about random non work shit or asking me what im doing in the evening or the weekend.

You're astonishingly retarded if you can't even read the fucking OP.

FF8

Well that explains the writing in this game

I miss flash game sites too

This very much, luck via BBC

its called being smart enough to know what to look for

Kek. I had that same thought halfway through Act 2.

This is going somewhere retarded, isn't it

Still a great game. But I preferred the mysterious aspect with Gustave at the helm versus the Verso Maelle family melodrama it turned into. Diskogue and characters remained great, but I couldn't care less about what the story turned into. Felt like I was playing a gritty Kingdom Hearts with all the teleporting about and vague, indirect ramblings about existence.

you retards are so bootyblasted by this game lmao

this, passion doesnt let you afford andy serkis and jennifer english

sits around and cries about shit going wrong

doesn't even try to do anything about it

cries about Trump

sounds about right

then maybe do something about it cucky

I've been in a similar situation
Our boss ended up firing the guy, but it took a very long time
Hope it ends well for you anon

She wants to fuck you anon, go for it.

nah shes married and not even married that long really. only 2 years. so her husband should not be bored of fucking her yet.

she's asking what are you doing at night or weekends

Anon...

Just fight corporate bro

You two have no idea what kind of world I work in. Absolute retards to think you can fight higher ups.

Passion

Well certainly not talent. There are indie games with better quality programming, rigging and animation than this one.

ue5 by default makes women look like men

what

Yeah, that's pretty much the reason I played the entire game as maelle. Her running animation looks way better than the rest of the cast

Alright well enjoy your pussyfoot life I guess.
Come back and link the r/antiwork post you'll make when you realize it's too late and it's all over.

Anon crying and clutching his chest and throwing up rn

That's pretty normal anon, have you never had women in the workplace?

Enjoy your fat stacks of cash while enduring a retard

I do, I was just sharing an anecdotal example of how a lot of otherwise talented people can be stymied by one micromanaging idiot, which is what I imagine happens at a lot of larger game devs leading to burnout and mediocre products. I love my life, it's just that, at the moment, I am witnessing first hand as a lot of very passionate, talented people are getting their hands tied by a buffoon higher up on the food chain.
Appreciate it. I don't mind it that much on a personal level, was just contributing to the theme of the discussion with a personal example.

was already done newfag

katawa shoujo

kek

He also mentioned in an interview that Lost Odyssey is one of his favourite vidya. He was also expecting E33 to become a niche cult classic with a small but dedicated fanbase.

gcjtrannies really can't stand straight white people huh

nah, people just expected a good game instead of a half-baked cinematic LARP with janky animations and 30 minute walking monologues. cope harder

DINO AND GATOR GAMES

I'M NOT ASSBLASTED

COPE COPE COPE

nice save anon

The pacing is literally better than every other JRPG LMAO there's shit happening every 5 minutes

ff8 chads cant stop winning

So the team is full of people with SOVL
No wonder it's a hit

Just love video games.

That's a chick.

sees woman

thinks of women

you don't belong here

People can't explain to me why i'd want to play a game with bad animations. I have to look at them over and over the whole time.

The pacing is literally better than every other JRPG

It's not even as good as FF7 or Mario RPG.
Generally it's random encounters that make RPGs feel like a slog. With modern games it's just the act of walking around and triggering cutscenes that feels slow.

It's not even as good as FF7 or Mario RPG.

go back

Admits to having not played the game

Then talks about its inferior pacing he hasn't experienced

What about this game causes such translucent seethe.

in my country we tell our bosses when something is seriously wrong. not saying it always leads to something but you have to try at least

People don't have to keep playing a game once they figure out it's garbage shill.

UE5 is just an engine

you really need to stop parroting this shit as if you can make a UE5 game that doesn't seem like a UE5 game

there are zero examples of this, ZERO

We made one of the greatest visual novels of all time, newfag.

they just want (you)s delete the > when you reply to them and they will fuck off quickly lol

708973661
no one here cares what you play faggot, if the animations are "bad" then fuck off to a thread about a game you like. or just go back to your home board

1.Females are cute, look healthy and are not feminist.
2.There is a cute redhead in the game (they absolutely hate redhead for some weird reason, usually replaced by niggers).
3.It's made by french, american have an epidermic reaction to anything french, even here, for some obscure reason.

HI-FI Rush is made in unreal yet doesn't have atrocious pop-in, Jank animations, stutter, poor performance & lag, dithered hair or grainy fuzzy visuals.
You still have to turn TAA off tho.

UE by default encourages some really bad practices but at the end of the day it's down to the incompetence of the devs if their game is jank.

Ubisoft dev

No that actually makes perfect sense. Ubisoft devs who are allowed to actually make RPGs they want give you...

Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle/ Sparks of Hope

South Park Stick of Truth/ Fractured but Whole

Child of Light

And now an Ex Ubisoft dev gives you Expedition 33.

surely the quality is the same anon. can't wait the see the next Clair Obscur done by (you)

Obscure reason

Quebec is right there

industry so full of shitty slop that you can just pull randos from reddit and get better results than billion dollar companies with decades of experience

it still has that staple UE5 character-movement-animations-not-matching-the-environment look
I don't know why this is in every game but it is and I fucking hate it, it makes the entire game look like some kind of facade when characters don't melt in with it properly

jennifer english

i read she a lesbo. why that does not surprise me.

boomers tried to pass this slop as a real game

lmao

People spent 50 dollars on a 40 hour french therapy session and are asking for more.

I am a man amongst apes

character-movement-animations-not-matching-the-environment look

If you're talking about foot sliding. it's a product of the animators and root-motion/animation programmers not doing their fucking job.
When you make a walk cycle you're supposed to make the feet line up with the intended walk speed and alter it with IK too.
Every time you see stuff like this it's literally because someone in the animation team was a lazy cunt and the directors didn't have the integrity to make them fix it.
Not an engine thing and I don't think it happens much in Hi-fi rush.

Persona 3

cringe

Devil May Cry

cringe

Demon's Souls

holy based

Journey

cringe

Final Fantasy VIII

cringe

Lost Odyssey

Dangerously based, I will now buy your game

Now you have to have a degree in random bullshit to make games and those universities are cranking out thousands of these retards every yeat

Experience is mostly a meme, if you can code or write or compose music competently enough to pass a style test, you are already 'good enough'

The fact that he found the guy to make the music randomly through soundcloud is crazy
How many incredibly talented people could be out there, uploading their stuff to random platforms, without anyone noticing them?
Why aren't they hired and instead we get fat dykes who care more about their pronouns than making good stuff?

When you make a walk cycle you're supposed to make the feet line up with the intended walk speed and alter it with IK too.

it's probably more than that but I don't know what it is and don't have the words for it since I'm no dev

I can forgive what you posted, that's lazy but it's also understandable, but I'm talking about simply walking around in the world. it's like the character ... box(?) is moving at some weird speed on an arbitrary world gird and it doesn't in any way match the defined world grid. it's something more than just slipping around due to bad animations(say, dark souls 2), it's like the character is moving in another reality.

I take a look at most UE5 games and immediately skip them because of this, or because of the dogshit particles(even wukong has bad particles).

Katawa Shoujo and Pokemon Clover

The fact that he found the guy to make the music randomly through soundcloud is crazy

not really?

How many incredibly talented people could be out there, uploading their stuff to random platforms, without anyone noticing them?

millions, some don't even upload stuff. we live in an era of infinite indies but no one is stringing them into a group to make masterworks because everything costs too much. jews did this.

Why aren't they hired and instead we get fat dykes who care more about their pronouns than making good stuff?

jews like fat dykes

I love the sheer amount of ass blasting this game and Oblivion are doing to the SJW that just can't accept that Ass Creed numbers were an absolute lie.

the problem is moreso, it's not worth the effort pairing the animation seamlessly which is extraordinarily time consuming getting the models to hit their marks. The only game that somewhat gets it right is TLOU2 and it's because they made unique animations from every single possible angle the actors can be facing eachother which is mad work.

No, they were clearly bored and tired of the managerial pressure and decided to do their own thing without having any stops.

I’m currently working in a small studio where the devs are yet to implement all functionalities, because the main focus right now is some stupid visual polishing for a system that’s trivial to the core gameplay, which hasn’t been finished yet… Corporate big heads don’t understand that you have to make it playable first, because stopping to make aesthetic changes during that phase is tiring and will overcomplicate shit.

This

Looking at the team's taste in games is pretty interesting

sandfall.co/team

The French are some of the biggest weebs there is. They've been reading manga and watching anime since forever and were even watching Super Sentai in 1987

if they could do it years ago with games like ratchet and clank they can do it now.

fpbp

via BBC

Of course they did.

we are making an asscreed about Japan

oh cool

MC's gonna be black

immediately leaves

creates his own stuido

makes a game celebrating a very Japanese style genre

it's something more than just slipping around due to bad animations(say, dark souls 2), it's like the character is moving in another reality

or because of the dogshit particles

I don't quite understand the first thing, sounds like you're subconsciously noticing 1 or more odd things but I don't know what they'd be.
but the particle shit is because everyone uses a particle system called Niagara in UE. It has a certain look and modern devs all use it in a similar way.

but the particle shit is because everyone uses a particle system called Niagara in UE. It has a certain look and modern devs all use it in a similar way.

likewise to the animation thing they usually never match the game and look awful

Based and SOVLFUL

What I'm curious more about is how were they able to afford marketing before the launch. Like getting a big spots on the xbox presentation. They are also getting retweeted by big devs like bandai namco, obsidian and square enix before the game released. they were also able to afford publishing to ps5 and xbox for a first-time developer which is quite expensive. Do associate directors at ubisoft make that much money?

Kepler, the publisher. They probably got the marketing bucks.
As for Bamco, they're the ones who produce the physical versions for EU. And Sega of all people do the JP physicals, btw.

So it's kind of like in the 90s when you couldn't just pick up devs from an officially approved list and had to scour for talent wherever you could find it? Who would have thought finding a competent guy through soundcloud would produce better results than paying some big name faggot to shit out Hollywood sameslop for you?

Is it really necessary to make so many unique animations? In cases like that ff7 gif, the game could override her leg bones' animations with the standard walking one as she opens the door, with the animation speed based on the velocity she's moving in.

Is it really necessary to make so many unique animations

nope there's interpolation, IK, or having the character walk to the correct spot in the first place to avoid the big slide.
They could do this right back in Mario 64 and OOT.

???

game credits

Yes and a team of expert shills with connections.

QA testers, voice actors and the choir/orchestra aren't devs

This. You watch the behind the scenes video with the composer and the dude is crying in the studio when he hears the final mix of the music he wrote five years earlier at the beginning of the project having come to life after pouring his heart and soul into it. This game will be the clearest example of lightning in a bottle for years to come.

tfw french zillenial game devs are Kinoconnoisseurs

FF8 chads won

FF8 G0DS we're eating good
youtu.be/NYpkDvfY5n4

Here you go. Educate yourself.
made-by-agdg.vercel.app/

There's only one person crying ITT, fren

This guy is a genius huh

its almost like genetics matters more than experience

half this board is reddit
and redditors are the most naive of all

We did it FF8 bros....fuck that meme shit FF9 that nobody actually likes

I agree. When you're passionate, you're willing to put in the effort to learn and improve your skills

This, it's fucking SOVL.

How'd they get the budget for this game?

Its the shill campaign from westoids

Love money, business angel and then publisher.

I don't think you understand he didn't just hire inexperienced people from the internet, he hired people with experience in game dev but couldn't get jobs without jumping through retarded loops and doing AI interviews and then waiting for 2+ weeks without hearing anything because tranny at HR hired their tranny friends, women or poojeets.

This is literally whats bleeding the talent out of the videogame industry, the best of the best aren't getting in unless they are referred in by someone there or higher ups, they will just get their application ignored by a troon in HR.

this might be the cringiest post of this year

Securing funding for a promising already half-finished game shouldn't be that hard especially for someone who had connections from working at ubisoft.
Feasible.

kind of make sense he would have FF8 as his fav since out of all the games it is the least weeb and most consistent when compared to something realistic. Most characters are human, technically adults, outfits pretty much based in modern day aesthetics and it takes itself pretty seriously. The only jokes in FF8 are Zell likes hotdogs... All the other games can't help themselves by including weird characters like Quina or Cait and children like Yuffie or Eiko.

I think it's time to admit the West just dislikes fantasy actually. Western games always must be tied down to realism in some way and feel believable based on real life standards. Can't have a Bahamut fight in space. That is not realistic or believable buddy.

it's much easier to achieve suspension of disbelief with a grounded fantasy

Not that anon. I've also got a female manager who will walk up to every worker and ask them how they're feeling and if they don't say they're fine and keep walking she will waste their time chatting. Even the new hires admit they get more work done when she's not around to help them.

Some women just think being at work, talking to workers about work is equivalent to actually working.

VIII has its fair share of cheesy moments. I mean every romantic bit from Laguna's leg cramps to Rinoa's dialogue aboard the Ragnarok sitting on Squall are pretty weeby cringe

I think it's time to admit the West just dislikes fantasy actually.

No, the west just finds a bunch of teenagers using the power of friendship to take down a god for the 500th time to be retarded.

make decent videogame in a sea of cheap trash

10/10s everywhere

Considering he made a 6/10 game, yea, pretty much. Everything else is just so shit and lacking in creativity.

Anon Babble culture also destroyed OC since retarded zoomers will scream CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE at anything that isn't a new variant of basedjak. nu4chan deserves everything bad that happens to it.

Final Fantasy VIII

Based

there is a group photo of the team out there. They are like 80% male and white. A game like this would have never been possible while working for any AAA studio. I don't know why is it so difficult for people to admit that DEI kills and has heavily damaged the entertainment industry in general. Everything has suffered under DEI and forced diversity.

No it is called actually trying to make a good game, the one thing AAA never does.

Got everything he needed from dumb luck and reddit

It's not dumb luck to look at countless reddit posts and asking the ones who claim to have credentials to chat or show their work. Imagine how much you could get done without having to argue with HR and DEI compliance harpies over every new hire.

This is the case with every Corpo as well.
A fuckton of psychos end up in management because they lick asses and promise fairlytales.
The problem is the owners/execs that can't judge people well and dont know how to manage themselves.
Real rulers/managers are extremely hard to find and most quit and move to other jobs/industries because higher ups can't appreciate them.

her expression when she sees my dick

Same age as me

Lmao I know this nigga was seething with me on jeuxvideo.com forums because the journalist gave it a 11/20

it already exists. and its beautiful.

because Red Heads are quintessentially white, its why they must be replaced in everything.

this is shit Kojima would make the team fix again and again till they wanted to fucking die.

40 dollar AA game at launch

fresh idea into a stagnate genre

freemason dog whistles everywhere even in the title

Don't underestimate the masons. I bet a million people bought it for that alone.

most of the core dev team were acquired without HR's input

Oh that explains that the-

most of the core

most

core

Ah, right, so this doesn't actually explain anything.

They hired Gollum to do voice acting dude.

retarded paki moving goal posts

The game is shit.

Correct, and the other half is brown. Which are you anon?

Government grants. Their publisher. And the game's budget isn't as huge as you probably think.

moving the goal posts

they aren't devs tho

All industries live on clientelism and nepotism. All of them.

I'll say it to both of you then, fpbp

No, it was the desire to make a good videogame instead of the desire to make profit

Fpbp

the pacing is literally better than most AAA games that get worshipped like GoW:Ragnarok or RDR2 or The Last of Us 1&2

I haven't seen Anon Babble seethe at a game this much since Baldur's Gate 3.

what
no

HR so bad you gotta recruit on leddit

reddit is the target audience for this game. The devs themselves use it

likes DMCshit

Opinion discarded

Verso having a Style Meter didn't clue you in?

This. The best games have come from people allowed to experiment.

Passion has always been what people call soul.
It's a natural thing, not just because these people didn't work for a large company. You can work for your family and still have zero passion. It's hard to develop passion, even if someone pushes you to.

When investors are involved, there is no passion, only profit. You're too retarded to understand that.

When investors are involved, there is no passion

wrong, there's passion but it's not dev's passion, it's investors' passion instead

CS graduates must be seething that it was *this* easy to get a job with a budding game company. Meanwhile, they've received their 784th rejection letter. top kek

That's called a "profit-driven mindset."

getting a job always basically comes down to luck unless you're related to the boss (which itself is a form of luck)

Why are you faggots pretending that most of the slop pumped out today isn't pozzed and un-fun, any game with a tad bit of fun and cute girls will succeed in today's market.

I really don't think he's all that expensive despite having big "nerd cred," he was in this literal who game that almost certainly had a much lower budget than E33.

It's called soulful, honest sincerity and passionate developers

You can make your own luck by building your network. It's that easy.