Taking the Souls formula and putting it in faster paced matches with lots of replayability is the smartest thing...

Taking the Souls formula and putting it in faster paced matches with lots of replayability is the smartest thing they came up with.
It's exactly what the current gaming demography wants.
This will also remove the problem of Elden Ring "empty spaces" that zoomers dislike.

multiplayer

discarded instantly. Also, zoomers disliking things means its good.

I keep forgetting this garbage is coming out. Usually fromdrones won't shut up about rollslop 2kxx but this time it seems they don't even care.

it's 1 month away, wait till influencer get paid to shill it.

Not sure if i wanna team up w people

lots of replayability

Doubt

requires voice comms to have anywhere near decent games

no ty. zoomer garbage

it shits on everything normalfags liked about the souls formula, there's no crutch weapons, no cheese builds, no quick rune farming methods, and they already complained a lot about losing them on death when they jumped into the Elden Ring bandwagon, how do you think they're going to react when they lose all of their weapons and levels when they die and have to start all over again?

Personally not interested. Souls games for me are slow lonely somber experiences set in a fantasy post apocalypse.

It's exactly what the current gaming demography wants.

the famed modern audience

Its $40 you nonce
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how should we innovate with our combat systems?

maybe better ui and control scheme, finally ditching the godawful spell roulette

maybe giving the player more offensive and defensive options, more mechanical variety like team ninja games do?

NO! LET US INTRODUCE ULTS ON COOLDOWN STRAIGHT OUT OF GOW 2018

the combat is fine for the standard souls formula, but if they want to make an action-focused game the only way is to make something completely different like they did with Sekiro imo rather than hopelessly trying to polish their rollslop mechanics. I'm playing the korean Nioh clone and even that blows ER out of the water when it comes to the combat

nigger post

play solo
play solo
play solo

korean blows

yepp, they cant code for shit.

They bring back Sekiro deflect
that's enough to for me to preorder this

I want to develop my own character trough my journey from a lowly knight to a legend, not be forced to play as one of the premades and wear one of the shitty premade skins.
And there isn't even an unga bunga greathammer man premade character! Unplayable!
Jewish tranny nigger gooner slop!

I have no friends so I don't think this game is for me. I really don't want to just join random lobbies and have 2 people thrown at me.

Khazan's combat is genuinely impressive for a first attempt, any of 3 weapons is better designed mechanically than anything fromsoft has ever did.
Now, if someone did a roguelike with khazan combat and permanent moveset unlocks, that would've been fun.

Nah khazan sucks

No, it's a great game. Shame you got filtered.

funnily enough that game runs great for me, respawning after a death is near-instant. Its biggest issue is how artistically uninspired it is imo, everything I've seen so far is extremely generic and boring, like mobile-game-tier (not surprising given the origin of the franchise)

filtered.

Why would I? The game is braindead easy, combat's just spongy and mindless. It's literally just a flashier Skyrim. Gookshills like you saying it's equal to Sekiro is a total insult

complains about innovations

WAAAA WHY ISN'T IT THE EXACT SAME THING AS THIS OTHER GAME!!!!

rope yourself, tranime poster

gow 2018 cooldown based awesome buttons

ISN'T IT THE EXACT SAME THING AS THIS OTHER GAME!!!!

Literal ape

The game is braindead easy

you didn't play it, it's quite a bit harder than Sekiro and both games have a focus on deflection with some attacks that you have to react differently to (so either you consider both to be mindless or none of them)

I hate action games and wish they took slower pace and dungeon design more seriously and ran with that instead. Bloodborne was a very big mistake. Dragon's Dogma blows action souls away.

Khazan is literally one of the hardest modern arpgs. Post your gameplay.

This. Also Sekiro sucked for the same reason and easily the worst action game in the market and Fromsoft's worst one after Ninja Blade lmao.

I don't think either is strictly better, Khazan's (and Nioh's) weapon design gives you a lot more options than ER's but it requires diablo loot autism to function (since all weapons of the same category share the same moveset), and you can't tell me with a straight face that having color coded weapons is better than having unique ones in a genre that is supposed to place an heavy emphasis on exploration.

It's literally just a flashier Skyrim

you didnt play it

This, gooks are still mad over japanese bulls stealing their women.

Maybe if they actually change up combat to be fun and engaging it would work. If they just keep r1/r2 and rollspam it'll be very short lived since a big draw to these games is the expansive world

Fromsoft needs to make an archer focused sekiro one off.

this. tried so hard to get into elden ring but it’s just pretty to look at. too lonely give me some cool npcs, i dont wanna see ghost faggots

This anon cooking. If it's as fun as bow in mh rise I'd buy

is this game "on the house" like the other fromsoft ones or does it require always online?

if you have to have Diablo loot I prefer something like Nioh that goes full in with it, granted I haven't finished Khazan yet but so far its milquetoast approach to the loot makes me want to pay zero attention to it and I would have indeed preferred if it just had unique items like in souls games
Nightreign will have an archer character but it doesn't seem that interesting based on what I've seen, your idea sounds super interesting but I wonder if it could be made into an engaging enough system

I played Khazan and it was very meh. Not terrible or pinful to play but definitively not good either. It's just whatever.

Anime website

Zoomer and boomers for some reason can't handle fast character controls. Only exception would be dmc5 which died quickly anyway and normies only remember it for the story and ugly westernized graphics that appealed to them rather than the actual gameplay.

Fromsoft is incapable of doing good archery. Even the archer in nightrein seems like a tiny improvement over their godawful souls archer formula.
But to be fair, there's also literally no arpg that does archers well.

theyll gonna say limgravenite its empty too and annoying to explore and loot cause of the 3 days limit and ring of nightfire

sadly dragon ligma 1 and some things of 2 ( close quarter combat)

Dragon's Dogma did it better and arguable the best arpg for those who want combat focus with their rpg.

This shit isn't going to last two weeks. If it does then I lost all faith in this generation.

Sadly, a shit ton of drones are going to buy it.

They added the loot with random stats thoughzers?

Loot with random stats was also present in god of war games, they are just aping gow elements

half of the comments under the showcase trailer are "OMG Solaire, Faraam and Leonhard skins! I almost cried!", we are reaching the video game equivalent of the marvel fandom

Oh, speaking of capcom games, monhun wilds bow is genuinely an improvement even over dogma games.

I'm not touching Milds with a 80 ft pole stick.

more like random ashes than stats

just because you can mount and shot in a discount chocobo and rape any monster? i dont give a shit cause i a

Newer monhuns do it alright. Dunno about milds, haven't tried

I watched some people play the tests and it actually seems like they didn't fix the empty spaces from Elden Ring, they just made that the whole game, along with doubling down on the copy-pasted bosses as well.

we re already marvel zoomer retards in general Gaymers

Discarded as soon as I found out there was no character creation

Not touching this, gives me fallout 76 vibes

Downfall of Fromsoft incoming

about time miyazaki does something retarded and backfire his cult

Not to mention no builds, Fashion Souls, rings/charms or greathammers.

That's exactly what I wanted for Elden Ring. I love the game, but replaying it is a bit too much for me.

I really enjoyed the Arena boss mod ( nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/5645 ), but even though it's great, it's still not enough. (Like roguelite mod isn't roguelite-y enough, it should be randomized boss and not every boss but like 30 40 / run or something like that).
And modding on ER is soooooooo fucking bad. You can get one mod, but two? That's not possible. So you can't really randomize the enemies with another mod to try to have a true roguelite run.

And other ultra fun gameplay mods like Sword Heart Shura ( nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/7764 , I really recommend it to try) are limited by the fact that you can only play the "base" game unmodded....

Nightreign looks like everything I wanted for ER (as for being 3 players... ehhhh time will tell)

some of his fans are so brainwashed that I don't even know what he could do to disappoint them at this point, if he added difficulty options to his next game they'd treat it as a brave and innovative move.
Maybe pay 2 win pvp?

Where am I seeing the praise for this game? All over social media and here everyone is shitting on it and Duskbloods relentlessly.

There has been a negative reaction about it and they know it. That's why they have been doing damage control when Miyazaki go out and said they would still focus on single-player experiences. Give them the middle finger with this and Duskblood and they will come back crawling and moaning.

lots of replayability

If you're this easily entertained just co-op in limgrave for free

You're a normalfag if you like story, level design, RPG mechanics

I can't wait until fromsoft turns BTFOs the normalfags and turn their entire library into tarkov clones

3 days ago

3 years ago

there's also literally no arpg that does archers well

That's because real archers are either stationary in a concealed/fortified position or shooting from horseback. Can't force everything to fit the standard action game template.

Can we admit that their games were never good and they keep making the same murder simulators for decades without change? How do people not get bored of the same shit? I just wish they get nuked and never make a single game again.

"why are fromsoft souls games all the same??? theyre always so stagnant in moves and structure!!!! they dont even have real coop"

*fromsoft does a new style of game with cool silly new moves and coop focus and new structure trying to maximize some cool features of souls that they think people will enjoy*

"nooo this sucks they should have just made another game just like the others!!"

you just cant win with people here

garbage is dead on arrival

Based. I have hope for this generation seeing through this bullshit. I wish Duskbloods would get scrapped for a better project that's not exclusive.

I literally never complained about them only doing souls games. They have their own niche, they have their own cool experimental mechanics like covenants and invasions, yet they are pissing it all away to chase the most retarded trends of the last years.

I was thinking about the worst fromdrones, not the average joe souls fan.
That said I've seen quite a few people defending Nightreign, I still think that it might perform decently sales-wise
I wanted a coop adventure, not a coop roguelite where you rush through mid combat

Duskbloods being exclusive is the least of its problems. It looks genuinely soulless, like they had an art design team change and they are trying to emulate older fromsoft aesthetics without realising what makes them work.

maybe they should put it in a singleplayer game "soulslike"

From fans gradually turned away from multiplayer entirely. Both pvp and co-op got way less important and it seems the leading opinion now is they should all be single player games. They're making this and The Duskbloods for boomers like me who thought Demon's Souls was the best entry with the best multiplayer. That way we will shut up so they can make the next games for the single player crowd.

red guy's pissed because he can't invade anymore

heh

its a problem anon how many nintendarts wanna play a tarkov souls like game and pay nintendo sub in a shittier hardware with worse internet bandwith connection?

I have their entire library to invade in, i can still invade in DS1 within seconds. Looks like you got raped by a red and your ass is still sore.

The more that gets revealed the more I think this is the biggest flop of the year.

FS wants to give their devs a chance to do something new

it’s just a roguelike/multiplayer/bossrush

My entire interest in this game will be based on how fun/playable it’ll be solo/offline, because I have never and will never touch the jank dogshit that is FS multiplayer. And anyone who thinks their network won’t be absolutely broken when the game drops is huffing copium through every pore.

nah but you're literally coping like the many red guys pissed by the simple existence of seamless coop
I don't even have online turned on because I don't want to get spoiled by meme messages on the ground

Implying most views didn't come within the first few days

I'm sure a million people are watching the Elden ring overview trailer one year after it's release

I hated how SotE turned out. Fromsoft should be knocked out more pegs than it should have for releasing complete garbage.

simple existence of seamless coop

The one that provides me with the best invasion experience in elden ring? What other cool stories do you have, anon kun?

You're a normalfag if you like story, level design, RPG mechanics

that's not what I meant, but normalfags don't really care about that, they just play souls games for clout, and when they hit a wall they go looking for ways to cheese their way through the game. Nightreign doesn't allow this as everything is randomized, and if they hit a wall they'll get sent back to a new game and at lvl1, souls autists and roguelike players won't have a problem with this, but I can see a lot of normalfags complaining about never making any progress and dropping the game.

Compare at least the trailers from the same channel

I actually blame nighrein for the state of sote. They likely cut a lot of content out of DLC to repackage it into the roguelike garbage.

t. Didn't play AC6

t. Didn't play deracine

Fromsoft are BRAVE for making a game with extraction shooter and battle royale mechanics. Fromsoft are BRAVE for gutting RPG mechanics from their RPG. Fromsoft are BRAVE for making a solaire skin and member berry boss fights. Be grateful chud

No, but it's always disingenuous putting these numbers without any context
It's not even the same amount of time passed between them, and here you are proudly showing them. What's the point of both screenshots? that's just fucking retarded

I mean, in the first place, the numbers don't even matter, but you're just a number retard that can't post anything here without a number or a chart lmao

I hope it fails tremendously. Fromsoft needs to rework their entire game philosophy and make something different for once. No one likes multiplayer slop that plays like the same thing we have been playing for decades. Lazy fucks don't deserve any fruits.

The best recent update I’ve seen to the souls control scheme and qol was unironically lords of the fallen “2”, rest of the game was boring but they figured out the answers to a lot of the old issues.

sprint toggle with thumb click

kick is done by pressing two triggers at the same time instead of the weird timing thumb + trigger stuff

magic and ranged use the same meter and have a dedicated trigger with slots so any class can use them

armor dye system

can edit ng+ however you like

Shame the rest of the game is mid.

DS1 still has active online? It's the only souls I haven't played yet, I usually stay offline but I might let myself get raped by invaders for a change when I'll get around to playing this game

They always half ass a game then give them the leftovers onto the other. It's smart but it's more shameful and lazy than other companies like EA and Ubisoft. At least Ubisoft releases full games instead of tech demo shovelware.

What exactly is unique about taking a single-player series and making a shitty multiplayer version? This shit was so common in the early to mid-2010s and led to the death of series like Dead Space.

This is peak contrarian posting, and you should feel embarrassed for unironically defending EA. The worst thing From Software games are is bad, but they aren't active scams like EA.

/thread

I found the game to be decent enough, although it was far from reaching greateness. They even added a built-in randomizer mode, and apparently they recently made it so you can play coop with a friend even if he hasn't bought the game, I can only praise the devs when it comes to post-launch support

I was picking the first results on youtube, but if you insist

I’m still convinced that the Radahn thing was a complete ass pull to avoid having to make Godwyn assets and animations. Every single piece of lore for Radahn and Miquella was just slapped into place to justify it as sloppily as they could. Even the little “ending” video of Miq was just that.

b-b-but you can play it le solo!!

you can also play Counter-Strike "solo" with bots, doesn't mean the game was designed to be played that way, retardo. Nightreign is a multiplayer game first and foremost.

It's a pattern and if you fail to recognize it then you're a mindless drone who would slurp up anything a corporation shits out. Fromsoft never released something that was complete like a rpg nor a good action game. They just have been releasing half assed projects one after the other without thought and charging full price for them.

this, this kind of stuff used to be a free secondary mode included with the main game (for example I played a lot of the AC Brotherhood multiplayer)

Nah, that one is too thematically sound to be an asspull. It's literally Martin's writing at its finest.

never had any issue with the ranged ammo besides how stupid limited its after each new soulsshit game since bloodborne i like better the lord of the fallen parry cause pressing l2 and learning perfect frames its boring ,autistic and non perfect frame parry shouldnt be so stupid punishing

Play Wo Long

up to 6 specials per weapon, 2 preset with 3 specials

8 spell slots, 2 presets with 4 spells

Wait, wasn't this shit up for goty last year? How isn't it out yet?

DS1 still has active online

In DS1 you can invade players going through the game solo. There's enough of them for me to invade very fast. This game will never die, it maintains a stable playerbase for over a decade.

it is you get a shit cutscene that should be the intro cutscene after touching miquella raped hand to enter shadowland

shazamtranny so mindbroken by elden ring's success 3 years later starts defending EA

for the love of god, get a life.

nice, I'll definitely play it online then. It's cool when games like this stand the test of time

People were happy to bitch when capcom did it, but if you even think about criticising fromsoft you just don't want them to experiment

Reminder that support for RE Resistance ended six months after release

Just be warned, you will go against juggernauts and grognards playing this game for a decade too

the only support should be the bitches of that image porn KEK

fippy bippy

duskblood gonna be mimic camp if it has it KEK

Hell, let us remember about this absolute ""gem""

I fucking loved Resistance. But I also loved RE6 so maybe I'm not the best judge of RE games.

Des Multiplayer

Unique and novel systems for engaging with others in a otherwise singleplayer game

Das Multiplayer

Builds upon Des by adding in a ton more cross connectivity mechanics and unique oddball stuff like varied Covenants, Vagrants, and Way of White Symbols, to varying levels of stability. Also rewards players with unique gear for engaging with the Covenant system.
The Peak of their PvE+P design.

DS2 Multiplayer

Removes a lot of the more oddball mechanics to focus more on the pure Covenant system rewards long term PvP engagement which combined with the large variation of gear makes for what is considered the best PvP experience from a pure combat standpoint. Continues rewarding players for engaging with the Covenant System but allows PvP player to get the same stuff of later NG+ cycles.

Bloodborne

PvP is a tertiary system that clearly feels like an afterthought with Covenants being reduced to some badges for slight variations outside of the DLC which adds in two Dragon Covenant Equivalent ,and The League for actual PvE benifits.

DS3

The system is once again reduced to swappable badges which all play relative the same in killing the host or beating the boss, mound makers are the only unique one but is essence they are just another invader type most of the time. Covenant system is the same as DS2 with little innovation and the arenas being removed till the DLC.

ER

Covenants are cut in development and the only remnant of PvP is getting to the Moghwyn stuff early. Otherwise is the most striped back its ever been only allowing for 2v1s until the dlc came out in which only the summon fights offer anything truly new.

They had a good thing going in Das and DS2 in different ways and yet gradually abandoned the system over time for no good reason.

when they bother put the monkey staff deflect melee attacks like the game intro

yeah that's worrisome since I'm not that good at these games, but at worst I can just go offline for a bit at times to get some cooldown (it's not like I need summons anyway). But also if I know anything about this community I bet that some experienced players invade with meme builds just to fuck around so not all red men should be twinked death machines

Someone tell the ESL it's not 2016

Survive is unrionically the best analogue. Right down to the fucking nostalgia bait

I am a Fromdrone and I'm not buying this one. I play their games so I can wander around decaying kingdoms not wrangle two other retards without voice chat for forty minutes.
I wouldn't even be able to play this one with my brother, the only reason I would have bought, because they didn't bother making it playable with just two people. Only 3 or 1.

I legit think Artorias is one of the reasons. They didn't comprehend it then yet fully but that was the turning point where "slow and deliberate" started fully turning to action. Bloodborne cemented that gameplay style fully and it was also the game where people could completely choose to avoid PvP by killing chime maidens, which they did. The multiplayer also doesn't really fit in anymore, pvp only really worked as a rebalancer for being able to turn human and summon people. Once that mechanic disappeared pvp was just there for its own sake.

LMAO. I have faith that this shit is going to flop hard.

Turning to action is not really the issue, it's the fact they didn't evolve their own combat systems in any meaningful way to support it. Meanwhile, the entire genre moved forward.

It's strange, ER would've been the best game to have at least DaS3 Covenants system in.
It would fit perfectly with the Dark Souls 2 Bell Tower auto invasion summons to protect an area.

If streamers get to play game week early, I'm willing to commit murder.

This is what angers me the most. Literally a perfect playground for all sorts of covenants. With an amazing story justification of Tarnished just duking it out as they fight for the title of Elden Lord.
Ironically they made a fight against Leda, but it's a pale shadow of what could've been happening in the entire areas.

I wish I could murder the shekelberg bastards behind this too but this is just the sad reality of modern gaming.
Gamers are now the peasants, while streamers and ecelebs are the first class video game consumers.
Don't like it? Stop giving shekelbergs money and playing their shitty games and play more old games and indie.

Its weird seeing the remnants of the cut PvP content. Like Zamor was meant to be a Covenant in some regard and ovbously there is the arenas that were repurposed as additional content later on.
And Rykard's whole deal reeks of being a Redman Covenant till late in development, special finger and all.

Even my friend who's a hardcore from fan (platinum'd all games, and signed up for the network tests for 3, ER, and NR) is very skeptical about it and is afraid that From is finally selling out

Volcano Manor is such a pitifully small area, being an invader defender area would've improved it tenfold.

make different covenants for different areas that let you invade players going through your zone

create lore about rivalries, if you are say a green you can choose to help players attack areas defended by yellows and so forth in a cycle (imagine something like pic related)

arena fights between covenants that contribute to a global score

oh, the kino that we could have had

It's a shame team ninja is limited by their budgets, they literally had a faction war mechanic in nioh 1 already even without pvp.

The genre moving forward is what turned me away. I couldn't even finish Elden Ring. Got to the snowfield area and just realized I wasn't having fun. It was the exact same loop as the previous handful of games, with the same shit archaic multiplayer hassle and same shit shinies behind random ruins "exploration". Meanwhile Nioh and Remnant propelled the genre forward so hard From feels even more archaic in comparison. Even the Demon's Souls remake fixed the bullshit multiplayer in areas where the boss is alive situation, From didn't even copy that simple thing.

reuse boss fights in the same game

get called lazy

reuse bossfights in a standalone $40 game

The only thing that could make this funnier is if geoff keighley gave nightreign goty

Geoff shouldn't have given Sekiro nor Elden Ring GOTY in the first place. We could have something more different if the general public ignored these games.

Like what, stray? Fromsoft washes the game awards because the rest of the AAA industry releases nothing but trash

almost every dungeon is a boss reuse

Nobody says a word

ds2 does it once

Everybody loses their mind

Who asked ds2 nigger

Sekiro was so good it had no competition which is funny as it was just a side project and had the b team working on it and they managed to make the best from game to date

Thinking on this you obviously would have each of the major factions Golden Lineage, Raya Lucaria, Redmane, Golden Order, Volcano Manor, Moghwyn Dynasty. Miquella Followers.

Like off the top of my head
Redmanes could be Sunbros
Moghwyn is Vanilla Invader
Volcano Manor could be Moundmakers
Golden Order would be Bell Tower (imagine Lyndell being PvP central)
And Miquella Followers Could be Darkmoon/Way of Blue

I think there is less space for Golden Lineage( perhaps it could also be a Golden Order Defense Zone if we stick to the Bell keeper situation)
And honestly I got nothing for Raya Lucaria.

Then add in factional conflicts as a freeforall and your solid.

Retard

that's exactly what I was thinking about with the global scoring, just some consumables as a reward for the winners would be enough because the real prize would hav been the weekly shitposting between the teams. In Nioh the factions are just there but in Elden Ring if you gave each one a different personality and aesthetic the competition would have been ruthless, like real world football tier. It would have been incredible

DMC V or Death Stranding for 2019 and GoW Ragnarok for 2022 but 2022 was lacking and Elden Ring is more of the same uninspiring open world sloppa.

15 minute days are too fast IMO

Taking the Souls formula and putting it in faster paced matches with lots of replayability is the smartest thing they came up with.

It's exactly what the current gaming demography wants.

This will also remove the problem of Elden Ring "empty spaces" that zoomers dislike.

You faggots are praising them for making a PvE Battle Royale.

I don't understand why people give a pass to streamers when they're one of the biggest reasons modern gaming sucks. They only shill slop and plat FOTM. If it was for streamers Demon Souls and DS1 would have never gotten nearly as popular as they did.

death stranding

gow

You faggots are praising them for making a PvE Battle Royale.

does anybody have the meme with myazaki showcasing a fortnite-like dark souls to a conference room? It was prophetic

I would be interested if 80% of it didnt look like reused assets

I don't get the love for souls. They're just kill simulators with nothing else to do and don't have either rpg mechanics or a sense of adventure in their games. They're just half assed action slop that were dime a dozen during the 00s musou fad rage.

Sometimes I don't need a great story with well written characters and just want good combat and grinding up numbers.

sense of adventure in their games.

They have that.

I just don't get why they made preset characters. One of the biggest appealing things of the Souls series is making your own character, so to me, that is one of the dumbest decisions they made.

Had.

80%

more like 99.9%

Sekiro had it though
And it was recent

or a sense of adventure

that's definitely present more or less in all the souls games imo, especially the oldest ones. Other than that it's the atmosphere that sells them, from modest and desolate areas with thiefs and prisoners to epic buildings with knights and old kings well past their glory days, moving through a dying world is at the same time comfy and oppressive, I think it's neat
the plunge into the abyss was one of my favourite moments in the game

too bad "le replayability" in this case comes from statistical numbers garbage, not expanded gameplay. Souls combat is shallow and a game relying solely on the action aspect is a retarded idea

we been playing solo co-op with solaire since 2010 newfriend. it was fun then will be fun with nightreign later this month. release is so close just realized

Meant for

"empty spaces" that zoomers dislike.

But it's zoomers who praise open world games full of nothing, so no wonder ER was such a hit for them

it's zoomers who praise open world games full of nothing

only if they are liminal

Sekiro isn't Souls.

millennials are the ones who love bethesda games though

Cope

It's less fun than just putting down a summon sign.

Although I guess you wouldn't get any summons by now.

nah anytime i tried watching a speedrun of ER like 75% of the time the streamer is riding torrent through a huge field to the next area. a total slog after your first playthrough

if I say it, then it's true

no?

It isn't. You play a preset character with a defined weapon, playstyle and personality. The story is straight forward and doesn't rely on post-it notes stuck to every lootable item. There is no RPG or level up feature, you can only improve your attack via items gained from defeating specific bosses.

and if you watch a sekiro speedrun they are swimming in the air 75% of the time

The story is straight forward

Where did the second mortal blade come from?

It was probably an Ashiina heirloom, or it belonged to tomoe. It doesn't really matter where it was

gotta be a v1.0 meme category that nobody runs anymore im assuming. Sekiro all bosses current patch sounds like fun to watch because the pacing makes it exciting similar to nightreign

I mean, rollslop is already CoD tier, so why not? It fits the demographic. Also, soulshit has always been online-focused.

This game killed the entire Souls genre. The first cancer cell in a body that will ultimately die of cancer

People get less angry when the rest of the game is good.

Have.

Kinda agree, kinda not.
I like that the game focus on multiplayer (because single player games are an absolute waste of time). On the other hand, the fortnite zone thing sucks, I'd rather explore freely the game with pals.

single player is a waste of time

Multiplayer games die constantly, and the game’s meta currently is going mach 10 to every objective. Hell even Elden Ring with the seamless co-op mod is more of a meme fest.

There is no sense of adventure in an open world where every castle/fortress/encampment is just a collection of zombies for you to murder.

Elden Ring desperately needs actual towns, NPC hubs, anything to give a sense that there is even anything worth ruling over. It's not an adventure that works when the objective is to be crowned king of the zombie shitheap world.

how should we innovate with our combat systems?

you have multiple eroes with special movesets IE weapon specializations with Wylder with greatswords, Duchess with daggers, etc for one

Most enemies aren't zombies though, especially not the soldiers.

The point of the souls/ER games is they’re more or less a post apocalyptic setting. Having lively fantasy towns really goes against that idea. Though I do wish we had more hubs like Majula from ds2, that slowly build up to being a pseudo fantasy village.

It's literally hardlocked souls characters with very primitive moveset changes. They basically get one unique moveset per weapon class and 3 ashes of war on a cooldown. Dutchess also gets DWGR from DS1. That's it.

solo or trio

no thanks

Wow that sounds shit

this has been built with a shitty focus

well how about you buy it anyway and just cut out most of the intended content?

No thanks. My response to things that suck is to take another option, not to microdose the thing I don't want.

The point of the souls/ER games is they’re more or less a post apocalyptic setting

Elden Ring takes place in the aftermath of a war, where all of the lords involved in the war are still alive and sentient, their territories are more or less stable, but somehow every single soldier is a mindless husk. They don't even bother to justify this shit in Elden Ring, it's just mindlessly aping what earlier Souls games did with no regard for making it make sense.

Having lively fantasy towns really goes against that idea

Then don't have the objective to be crowned king of the shitheap. Have it be to rescue a princess or something. Finding Gwynevere's illusion in DS1 is still a moment that felt more climactic than anything in Elden Ring, where they clearly want the scale to be grander, and they put animals every 10 feet to let you know the world is still alive, and there are still lords around, but the exploration still amounts to nothing but the same mindless murder spree bullshit.

Also, zoomers disliking things means its good

based DEI games enjoyer

An adventure is more than just being able to talk to NPCs in towns, is also the sense of mystery and wonder the world evoques and FromSoft does that pretty well. Look at Starfield for a failed example of "many towns" to visit. Anyway, I agree they could add more hubs with friendly NPCs to their games and less try hard misery porn.

youtube.com/watch?v=vhyypCQwW50

boss spoilers not clicking with only 20 days until launch

Believe it or not, and, hold onto your seat while I say this: Towns have existed in RPGs before Bethesda even existed.

Best Souls-like DESU
I like it more than DS3

it is obvious they are going for an mmo souls next with the nightlords being mmo bosses with ground aoe's as seen

no pvp

no buy

How close does it feel to early Souls? I only really like DS1, haven't played Demon's or DS2.

Gameplay is fun, and I already put 15 hours into it from just the Network Test. Don't see what people are complaining about.

Ok, I'll bite. Can you give me a few examples of cool towns, cities and hubs on RPGs you know that aren't Bethesda?

lords are still alive and sentient

the fuck they are, they’re dead, corrupted into monstrous forms, or incapable of doing anything because fate and death has been quite literally stopped or removed outright. It even says the greater runes corrupted them, and most of what you come across for enemies have been driven into being mindless husks because of the order being broken and the laws of life & death being absolutely fucked over.

don’t have the objective to be crowned king

It isn’t, your to become the “elden lord” your essentially ushering in a new age, an age that you can change and affect in an almost godlike manner. The only ending that involves you ruling over the shitheap is the “age of fracture”, and you could argue that isn’t really the case.

A lot more responsive, but the animations are noticeably jank. If I were to describe it, it's like if mo-cap was at 2x speed.
Level design and build variety are great. I'd honestly say that it has some of the best levels in the genre.
NTA, but I liked a lot of the towns in Kenshi.

Clock Town in Majora's Mask is pretty good. The game would be much worse if it not present.

Morgott is sentient
Miquella is sentient
Malenia is sentient
Godrick is sentient
Ranni is sentient
Mohg is as sentient as anyone else under Miquella's charm, and most of them seem quite lucid
That leaves Rykard, Rennala, and Radahn as the only demigods who are clearly insane or mindless. Most of them are perfectly sentient.

literally retarded the duology when you can play solo offline like they dont bother scale for 2 players

They won't. Casuals love roguelites.

Madness instead of instadeath

Shit boss that doesnt respect the assets it stole

They actually DO scale for 2 players!
That's the funniest part!

lots of replayability

replayability

People only need one multiplayer game so Nightreign will be dead in a month.

have no friends who play souls games

have to play with randoms

game dosent scale down when randoms leave a game

know for a fact that it’s going to constantly happen

Arigato Miyazaki San

well cant wait for simple duo coop mod and 4 niggers in a row mod

Really? Every video I’ve seen says the opposite. No scaling at all. So if everyone leaves a run, your fighting bosses scaled for 3 players.

I had an easier time with two players, so I assumed there was scaling.

Recluse's magic system is easily the best we've seen in the souls series.