The extreme normalization of watered-down slop content disguised as legitimate analysis of games has done a serious...

The extreme normalization of watered-down slop content disguised as legitimate analysis of games has done a serious number to this entire hobby. If so many people are flocking to hear uniformed at best – and disingenuous at worst – rants about gams they themselves do not intend to play, this can only have a paramount effect. The actual community of the game is now a minority, because a product designed solely for cheap, disposable entertainment made by a charlatan is simultaneously being used to speak authoritatively about the very experience they've dumped huge swathes of time into, while also treating an escapist medium like fodder for quips and jokes. This narcissistic display happens so often now it means that to even call oneself an honest fan of a game (niche or not) is now an uphill battle, as the proportion of the peanut gallery is significantly higher than those truly invested. And because everything must center around a narcissist's flawed interpretation no matter how arbitrary or kneejerk, this taints the game forever. It cannot be decoupled from the slop content, it did not consent to being covered by some self-proclaimed professional, it was dredged up solely for an ulterior, cynical motive.

Just block the channel and move on man it's really not worth it

this dude is a manlet

Perchance.

room full of funker slops

Just shut it down.

his existence infects all discussions about games he and his ilk makes videos on

Let me guess you're mad he shit on anarchy online? Josh might be a normie with mostly shit opinions but he's right about half the things he talks about like dark souls being easy and that people chipping out are emotional spergs that dont understand his content is for other normies and that people who cry about it make themselves look bad. At least he mans up when he's wrong which is why reddit hates him because he exudes white male values

If he was doing the worst MMO ever series honestly, it would have a single episode with enough duration to say "all MMOs have shit gameplay and are a waste of time".

Something about this guy rubs me the wrong way.
It's like he's trying to seem like some type of eloquent chad gentleman, but secretly he's a s o y cuck lefty cunt.

If he said anything of substance in his videos I wouldnt be able to fall asleep to them.
We need channels like his.

I just watch Female Essayists so I can fap while listening to british ASMR.

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menu titled "HEBE"

is this Anon Babble's favorite mmo?

You're absolutely right but you cannot do anything about it. Your ilk has been outbreed and will continue to be outwilled and outmatched; complaining on Potemkin gardens is not a solution it is just a derivative of the problem. Conmen such as his are not as smart as your intentions declare their character as, because their character, and so all of their insipid devices, are monumentally and devilishly fabricated by the powers that be to act in self perpetuation

people like him and you have destroyed the integrity of online interactions. you have depersoned yourself in favor of becoming a consumer. you need a consensus formed for you

The extreme normalization of watered-down slop content disguised as legitimate analysis of games has done a serious number to this entire hobby.

I stream occasionally and make twitch comp style let's plays. I'm here to have fun, not try to make everyone think I'm smart.

You sound like someone who plays Anarchy Online.

not try to make everyone think I'm smart

we're aware

Who is this and why should I care?

He shit on Anarchy Online and the playerbase of 20 people are really mad about it because they spent the last 25 years in it.

tenchu z was literally dark souls combat before dark souls existed

Shit on and then defend his shitting on.

I'm thinking based. Never played that game but it looks like shit. Most MMOs actually do

The funniest thing was him going 'if you have a severe emotional reaction to someone saying the game you love isn't fun then something is wrong with you' because it's true.

Oh my science this is everything

is tenchu Z tenchu 1?? is it?

Normalfag YouTuber who makes MMO videos where he speaks in a way that is super pretensious to make himself sound like a legitimate critic, but then uses "uhm actually my videos are just entertainment" as a shield to deflect when people criticsize him of misrepresenting the game, not understanding the game's systems, or just plain being a retard and playing poorly

He's a showman. My problem is his takes are on the level of "water is wet" to anyone actually engaging with these games.

"Severe emotional reaction" implies receiving death threats for calling someone's favorite game bad, which never happens even on this shithole.

Kek, based Josh making fags shit themselves. If you're really scared of a jewtuber's opinion of your videogame it's over for you.

youtuber says the game does a poor job of explaining it's systems to newcomers

it does do a poor job

this is him shitting on the game somehow

kill all youtubers who just speak but say nothing
josh
act man
legendarydrops

you didn't say tenchu 1, you said tenchu, which tenchu z is a part of and was the most popular in the series due to normies and xbox.

Correct.

I hate that you can just say the sky is not blue and get guaranteed replies from people who think you're serious

When a huge chunk of your life is keeping your favorite MMO alive because it's been ignored any newcomer going 'wow this game is terrible at actually explaining anything' is an affront to everything you cherish.

shit on anarchy

just says it does a shit job explaining things to the player

mindbroken shills screech that the "correct" way to learn is to watch 20 hours of youtube tutorials

mental illness. get fucked.

if you still play anarchy online in current year you should just end it now

yes MMO players, are mentally ill

YOU DON'T FUCKING GET IT
HE INSULTED
"MY"
GAME!!

PatricianTV is great for this cause his videos are 12 hours long

Since this is the eceleb thread, let me ask this: what's the deal with people holding mugs/cans or whatever during reviews and other videos?
I saw vids of this girl who holds a monster white can the whole video not drinking it or anything. I assume this dude does the same thing considering the pic.
What's the deaaaaaaaal with holding beverages?

Not reading all of that but hasn't this been a problem ever since the "angry reviewer" archetype became popular outside of AVGN?
People still discuss ye olde memes like Sonic was never good or Egoraptor giving shit criticism of OoT. 1 contrarian retard with a following says something and the normies who lack the experience to verify it repeat in the rest of their fucking lives.

Human beings exhibit a chronic deficiency of independent thought, OP. Always been that way. Internet just made it much easier for those people to parasitically attach themselves to the ideas of others instead of their own.

His non-MMO reviews are way better. Even he's aware of it.

I hate this faggot, he forces himself into every conversation and thinks speaking like a fucking moron makes him sound intelligent

only issue is that he's a nasally faggot who is grating to listen to

complains about the oblivion level system (a fair point because its janky as shit)

makes the most retarded build possible to try make it look worse than it actually is

I assume these kinds of things are done because some soulless faggot figured out that it must boost engagement and algo exposure by 0.004%. Same as when people physically hold the mic in their hand visibly on screen.
At least if I expect the very worst in people, then I can still be pleasantly surprised.

meant for

We need to retvrn

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What gets me is the incessant championing of "le accessability" these fucks do. Yes, nobody wants to read through 30 pages of manuals or watch 5 hours of guides how to play your game but at some point too much casualization becomes hurtful. Look at WoW. The game has been stripped of all of its RP elements and interesting stats and has become a glorifed treasure hunt with piss easy content and an ever hemorrhaging player base. And now that they've introduced a literal LITERAL 1-button-feature for DPS I actually hear people like JSH or Bellular fucking defending this shit because "it helps new players".
It's like saying "chess is too hard for me, I want all board pieces to be queens". At some point dumbed down accessability kills the core mechanics of what made a game enjoyable in the first place. SOME gate keeping is good.

He's a faggot, but he lifts more than you, jeet.

Fighting games are really struggling with this now too

Speaking nothing shouldn't be worth a death penalty.
Grifting and demogogy should be however.

DARK SWOLE

Their old videos hold up absurdly well. Perfect audio, the game captures are all high quality, they have an actual set, just sounds like two regular guys checking out random stuff out instead of trying to be professional critics

Making games playable for people with impaired senses makes sense to me, like high contrast settings. But too often the accessibility push came down to "dumb the game down for me".

When the defense of the game starts with 'you didn't spend hours going through online tutorials before starting' then there's not much to defend.

tory cunt

Who is this?

My favorite part are the people in the comments seething at them rightfully shitting on garbage like Kasumi Ninja or criticizing ok but awkward as hell Eurojank like Syphon Filter 2.

Colorblind mode or other visual stuff doesn't usually impact the gameplay. I'm talking about catering to the crowd that just wants instant gratification and basically just background noise to relax to. These types of games absolutely have their place but not when it's at the cost of an existing game getting dumbed down for "accessability" reasons.

Again coming from a WoW background - players always welcomed more and more quality of life improvements over the years, more and more until one day they wondered why the game has become so uninteresting. Streamlining until the game has no more depth for you to explore and exploit is one of the main reasons why retail WoW is such a joke these days.

I have no experience with fighting games but I've heard MaxDood talking about that. How does that translate into the fighting genre? Skill ceiling getting significantly lowered to make it "more fair" or something?

"Thou mad" is honestly something I can imagine his hoity-toity reddit ass saying.

attractive ppl giving their opinions on vidya is just white noise to me

It's mostly progression.
If you can hit half levels and gear of lvl max in a short amount of time you don't feel progressing
That's why you see tons of people who played wow with all classes pvp etc the journey is far more enjoyable than the endpoint
At least for me but I'm pretty sure people could relate because the "it's too easy" was regular complain I saw with people playing classic when I asked them and when I played retail I was shocked how it took me only one hour to hit lvl 12

i'm playing AO right now (on rk19 in the ironman org)
josh was right about the game's problems. people complaining he didn't figure out the starter belt could be equipped with the comp utility nano forget that IT'S THE FUCKING TUTORIAL. IT IS SUPPOSED TO HOLD YOUR HAND. you shouldn't have to figure out the basics of the game while you are in the part of the game specifically meant to teach it to you. people also got mad at him for not knowing about the buffbots, which is absurd. no new player would join a game and assume that everyone else is blatantly violating the TOS to keep the game running because the devs abandoned it. but the AO community has to make bots to have basic features that funcom won't add (the orgbots are great, but it is embarrassing they are necessary - the game can't even tell me how many people in my org/guild are online? what loot dropped from a boss - let alone allowing us to roll on it? how long till our city's cloak is up?)

AO community's response is sad. why are people mad at josh? we should be mad at funcom - these problems are the devs' fault

I hate JSH because in his "most comprehensive MMO tier list ever" video he literally skipped Dofus.
Either it's by accident or it's malicious. Looking more like pure malice to me considering he named Wakfu AND Waven, the newer title.

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Wait, there's a new game? Waven?
Is it good?

another day, another banger

Autism

Wasn't his 'comprehensive MMO tier list' just looking at a metric shit ton of MMO tier lists and equalizing rankings to figure out what the best ones were? If DOFUS was never on an MMO tier list then it wouldn't be ranked.

I hear you man, my favourite part of WoW was also leveling and questing and making new friends along the way. But that was in old WoW (up to Wrath). Now leveling an alt in modern WoW with all the goofy scaling shit and gutted stats and mechanics, it's so boring bordering on torture.

People say that hard games CAN be popular because of Wow Classic. Okay but hear me out.... 20 years ago WoW Classic *was* considered a casual game, compared to the contemporary MMOs of the the time

~2 minutes later~

A lot of Anarchy Online fans say the game is 20 years old and that is why it is so obtuse and archaic. That doesn't matter. You can't talk about the game's past or compare it to older titles, because it needs more NEW fans to stay alive.

Josh is a pseudo-intellectual. He runs his scripts through chatgpt to expand his range of vocabulary and then talks about a lot of meaningless points before quickly changing the subject sot hat his low IQ audience never concentrates on anything for too long.

As someone who is red/green colorblind I can state with 100% truth that I had trouble doing FFXIV's A..5S? The one that you have to go to certain color liquids to turn into things. In all the years I've been playing video games, that has literally been the only time where its been an issue. Not in any fighting game, not in any MOBA, any RTS, WoW, etc. Only that one singular time.

It has some good things, but not enough content to justify it, and it's directly competing with Dofus. It's also getting an entire progression wipe to rebalance/redesign the game because they don't know what to do with it now.

Tbh, even Classic was casualized compared to Vanilla, just no one wants to remember beta to 1.9.

He was also comparing WoW to EQ and later EQ to AO.

So which one of your favorite dead MMOs did he critique this time?

Thats normalized internet behaviour
if you criticize a product, consumers of that product get defensive because they extrapolate that to you calling them dumb

Can someone tell me why this guy is constantly showing his face in every video? It feels like a weird flex

Josh is really in love with his own voice, but the worst part is that he keeps repeating himself. He makes the same argument like 3 times in a row but words it differently. Either he's a pseud or he purposefully inflates his video's playtime because the algorithm likes longer video formats apparently.

Buddy, Anarchy Online isn't that good of a game. Never was even back in early 2000's.

He's traditionally attractive and knows it.

but wow classic isn't obtuse and archaic compared to modern games

You're trying way too hard to sound intelligent

Either he's a pseud or he purposefully inflates his video's playtime because the algorithm likes longer video formats apparently.

You get more money from YouTube for minute watched. A 2 minute video will generate more money than a 1 minute video.

He was trying to become an actor so he's obviously narcissistic to some degree

a man's gotta eat

If Josh Grift Hayes doesn't like your game then it's BAD. Appealing to the hardcore audience? BAD. Appealing to a high skill audience? BAD. Appealing to anyone that isn't him? BAD. You can't have PVP or loot on death or survival aspects or anything that requires thought.
Codified tutorial for retards or BAD. Also you have to keep the tutorial to 10 words or less because any more is too much reading and if you have tutorialize something Josh figured out himself, yep your game is BAD for over explaining.

I think his ego and popularity has started to get to him. He's always confidently running his mouth on topics he doesn't understand

why are people mad at josh? we should be mad at funcom - these problems are the devs' fault

Because the leftovers that tend to stick around in an MMO unfortunately are majority mentally unstable and have a weird stockholm syndrome when it comes to their games. Even more so if it has a microtransaction store stiched to it.

anon I am begging you, how do you block a youtube channel, its an add on right?

JUST TELL ME WHICH ONE! I WANNA BLOCK SO MANY FUCKING CHANNELS!

He absolutely destroyed Todd Howard amd Skyrim's magic system

You'd have to be a huge retard to be trying to make it as a YouTuber and look as good as he does and not show your face. There's no doubt in my mind that he has AT LEAST twice as many subscribers now as he would have if he didn't show his face.

The main thing that annoys me about him is that he makes the same point over and over with different examples
I get it already

Here we have an example of Josh's target audience How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast today?

Anarchy Online is a shit game that is so bad that the entire "fanbase" (10 people) beg you to pay money to not play it LOL

says retarded shit all the time

the few times someone calls him out, because they actually played the game this narcissist britcuck is yapping about, he IMMEDIATELY has a sperg meltie and has to respond with an hour long video about how he is totally not wrong

happened with dragon age, where he kvetched because people were mocking him for having to play on easy mode, because he was too retarded to learn the game.

Newsflash, if you are too retarded or cant be bothered to engage with a game's mechanics, you are not in a position to critique the game

happened again with anarchy online

he was talking shit about medievil, because "the windmill blades are spinning too fast, this is poor design, but he was too retarded to realize this was because he was playing on an emulator,

Click the 3 ... then click "Don't Rec channel." It'll never appear again unless you search for it.

WoW classic isn't even hard. The whole notion of WoW classic being hard has been thoroughly been proven wrong.

Simplest answer I can think of is give themselves an air of authority, similarly to why intellectuals often record themselves in front of their library even when it is clearly not in front of their working desk. Also maybe because they don't know what to do with their hands when speaking, but I've seen jewtubers move from speaking to a mic on a stand to holding it in their hand.

How fucking much does your faggot ass get paid to shill this trash here and why the fuck do the mods NEVER delete this shit?

What kinda weeaboo shit have you been watching?

dude breakfast lmao

bot post

Why is my game dying?

"Because it's terrible for new players to try and get into."

HOW FUCKING DARE YOU?!

he's a massive narcissist.
loves the sound of his own voice far too much too.
thinks he's some intelligent disseminator of games, but the reality is that he's a low IQ retard who couldnt beat dragon age unless he played on easy
says retarded circular logic and thinks he's being profound

he loved lotro and even shit on amazon's new lotr mmo

Kneel, niggerjeets.

People say that hard games CAN be popular because of Wow Classic. Okay but hear me out.... 20 years ago WoW Classic *was* considered a casual game, compared to the contemporary MMOs of the the time

He's not wrong on that. WoW was indeed the Fortnite of its time. It catered to people who were usually too retarded or socially autistic to function in an MMO that required mandatory grouping or at the very least communication and cooperation with other players. You can play WoW from start to finish without ever going into a group since the overlands are specifically tailored to not punish you.
There's a reason why WoW was in the millions of subscribers months after launch while other MMO's prior to it never could even break 200-500k+
Go ahead and try an emulator for a classic EQ1, UO, AC1/2, AO, SWG, DAoC and then play an emulated WoW vanilla server. It's night and day in terms of how much WoW held your hand at the very start.

loot on death

To be fair losing gear or xp upon death fucking sucks. Never understood by boomers had such a hard-on for it.

Why is my game dying?

Is there even a single AO player who was asking this question?

In terms of weeb, mostly Miku and Japanese versions of Confederate songs.

the only thing classic wow doesn't teach a new player is a tryhard dps rotation

WoW classic isn't what WoW was like. You had a limit of 8 debuffs, itemization was completely different, and the talent trees were completely different.
People still would have crushed it because only serious players are still playing the game, but the joke it is in WoW classic is not the real thing.

Try watching the video before passing comment. If you don't want to watch the video, why do you think your uninformed opinions on what he claims are worth hearing?

inb4 more mazed WoWaddict yapping

Don't care. Put in writing and send josh an email or something

>Why is my game dying?

Said nobody ever. Except Strawman Hayes, inventing a frothing angry MMO fanboy in his head to argue against

I understand that but fuck how do the normie casuals not see how jarring it is for his face to pop up during the non mmo build at complete random. Doing livestreams then it obviously it would make sense

He is actually more of a centrist but literally any take he has that is not far left has to have so many caveats and placations to the left that it is laughable.

Trump wins the 2024 election

It is revealed that young men actually swung Republican for basically the first time ever

Josh Strife Hayes tweets "We've kind of been ignoring young men for too long and they're retaliating and we're losing them"

This is an objectively true statement that isn't even pro-Trump (he is not)

Twitter trannies blow up at him

Has to make a video where he 'explains' himself by saying "W-What I meant was that young white men's problems don't matter... but they feel like they matter! They don't matter of course, heh, but i-if you say that then they won't vote for you! I mean they don't matter but like you can't say that h-haha"

Feels like he has a gun to his head the entire time

You can tell the guy is just a moderate person but he learned first hand you have to placate the trannies if you're a youtuber or streamer or anything like that because they will aggressively turn on you if you step outside of the line for a second.

WoW was also tons more fun than those autism games that required you to sacrifice a quarter of your life to play them properly. Games are supposed to be entertainment, not punishment.

Faggotry Online

don't the normalfags notice {thing}?

the answer is no

Sorry anon, you're on 3chin, people don't understand the nuances of moderate centrism. You're either team MIGA cuck crybaby or team tranook commie deathcult. There's no inbetweens.

why is [mmo]dying

because it is a 10 year old mmo not called wow, mmos are a dying genre, and even is someone wanted to play one, there are far better options these days
Thats like asking why no one is playing kameo elements of power these days.

You are nowhere near as smart as you think you are, posh kike gayes. You are a low iq troglodyte who keeps spewing circular logic. Your ego and popularity are getting to you

Are the servers down right now, anarchranny?
Idk what he did to get the thread but i must say, him NOT releasing the GW2 or whatever it was trying to sponsor him review unacceptably cuckish, even if it had some weird NDA attached.
Was there ever a convenient leak fr9m notjosh happening?

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I did watch the fucking video, he's not contradicting himself because wow classic is still a casual game in the year of our lord 2025

LotRO is the only MMO I actually tolerated, mostly because of the writing, atmosphere, and environments. The gameplay was still a typical MMO dogshit but there was a mode where you could play as an orc, that part was cool.

Josh himself has said it's literally just for his hands to being doing something other than just hanging limply down, or constantly flailing around with hand gestures.
Make of that what you will.

dude plays on easy and uses savestates

I actually feel bad for him if that's true.

To catch people like you who for some reason actually watch dedicated second monitor content like him indtead of just putting it into the bcakground and getting on a plane

WoW classic is not casual compared to Tranny Fantasy or GW1/2 which holds up as the pillars of peak babby's first and only MMO
You can not play WoW Classic like a single player game, never interacting with anyone ever

I don't fucking CARE
Stop talking about YOUTUBERS

anarchy online chads living rent free in josh's head

good thing theres plenty of space there, what with his head being empty and all

They buck broke him with a single post, calling him out on his bullshit, resulting in him having a sperg meltie and making another hour long video crying " I AM CORRECT I AM CORRECT" like that autistic doctor form that one show

what the fuck does that have to do with the game teaching the player its systems
do you even know what this thread is about

Never understood by boomers had such a hard-on for it.

Because it filters zoomies who refuse to get good. You're forced to work with your community. Example in EQ1: If you died in a dungeon like Guk or Estate of Unrest in an area deep in or filled with new spawns, you could ask a group to assist in dragging your corpse out to the entrance or even getting a level 39+ Necromancer with the ability "summon corpse" to bring it to you or ask a cleric in the area to res you thus halving the xp loss. They'll do it for free out of kindess or some will ask for a price to go out of their way. Either way it causes the community to work together. That's the charm of MMO's. You're forced to actually be aware of your surroundings and not purposely ruin relationships with strangers that may come in handy down the line

Primarily what this guy said.
It's a way to prevent unconscious hand gestures.

decade old bugs are still unfixed

people have tried to contact the devs for years

devs are long gone and don't respond anymore

servers are only still up to collect cash shop money from idiots

Based. Fuck Anarchyfags. Even the devs have given up on the game years ago lols.

WoW is "casual" compared to Everquest. A game that the playerbase famously would poop in socks so that they didn't have to leave their computer for any reason.
You still had to play all day ever day in order to rank in WoW. It was not a "casual" game.

If true, it sounds like hes the type of person who talks/talked primarily with his hands. It doesn't go well with the parts of the video where he's showing gameplay.

because it lets them pretend they're good at video games simply for putting time into it regardless of skill level

It is true. The guy never has come across as particularly leftist other than the average youtuber thing of not liking underaged anime girls showing off their panties. He doesn't complain about obviously adult women who do it and usually makes a joke like "And this woman has jiggle physics... thank you for looking back at the screen now"
I mostly call him inoffensive background noise. He doesn't pander to either political side and his one attempt at making a political statement that was very neutral and true just ended up with him having to explain himself lmao.

Games are supposed to be entertainment, not punishment.

That argument is what the modern videogame industry is using right this second for watering down shit. A very reddit take.

WoW has been <1million players since Shadowlands, and each month it bleeds subs.

Use an extension. The youtube button is useless and will keep pishing the channel in your face regardless.

Jerks the game off for having incredible atmosphere and music

Says that he can't play people's memories but he can understand why people loved the game

Points out how objectively awful the tutorial is, how terrible the cash shop is, and how all of the players just tell you to either grind in the subway or buy a level boost

Somehow people get mad

>Twitter trannies blow up at him

This literally never happened.

I use to think Hayes was fine but this guy must suffer from some kind of inferiority complex cause he has an unhealthy obsession with trying to "dunk" on Andrew Tate despite the fact that Tate is a washed up weirdo that nobody outside of chavs on Kick still give a fuck about.

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coming into mmorpgs literally decades after they launch is obviously going to be a shit experience. even newer games have problems with onboarding players after a couple of expansions, and some of the games he plays are old enough that they would have come with a physical manual that you were expected to read. a lot of the games he reviews are also obviously not meant to be dip-your-toes experiences and are meant to be life ruining megagames - the beginning is always the worst part of these games and that's where he spends the majority of his time.
so i don't take his reviews too seriously. i am an eq/ffxi fag and i can recognize all the flaws in each game while still lamenting that modern games lack their core soul.

I'm 33 and I played classic Everquest a few months ago to see what it's like because I was never into any MMOs (shitty 56kb Internet for most of the classic MMO years). I was filtered by the tutorial mines. I'm gonna be honest with you, if I had to kill trash mobs for however long it takes to level to the max, I'd fucking kill myself in the bloodiest way possible. I can't imagine how people-even way back in the 90s-could find that kind of gameplay engaging.

This fag has never worked to accomplish anything in a game in his life.
Probably makes 'gamer dad' excuses about having 8 kids, 3 full time jobs, and going through 3 divorced so he can't dedicate more that 13 minutes to gaming each week. This dude never spent hours grinding for a specific item. He's never seen anyone that has wasted countless days or weeks of their lives for a funny looking hat that gives him +3 STR, and you know that faggot is a total badass that makes you want to do it to.
You're the reason why visual progression died. You're the reason why giga autism died.
Faggot gamer dad

Your argument makes no sense but ok.

I only eat hard stale bread because I'm a real baking enthusiast

WoW classic is not casual compared to Tranny Fantasy or GW1/2 which holds up as the pillars of peak babby's first and only MMO

WoW is a baby's MMO. I remember in 12th grade i was peer pressured to buy it in early 05 just to quickly go back to EQ because the average person in was a screeching child who refused to cooperate in pick up groups. If you did a pick up group in EQ, you best learn fast about even the most minor things like mob trains otherwise you're probably going to have a hard time getting a group

You can not play WoW Classic like a single player game, never interacting with anyone ever

The quest hubs designed for soloplay in WoW say otherwise.

I KNEW YOU WAS FULL OF SHIT! IVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A YEAR AND THESE INDIA BOT CHANNELS KEEP FUCKING POPPING UP AND DOING THE SAME SHIT!

Extension name please, I cant take this shit anymore anon please help.

Your clunky shit rose tinted MMO got called bad OP?

You're the reason why giga autism died.

Good. Killing autists will clean up the gene pool.

If so many people are flocking to hear uniformed at best – and disingenuous at worst – rants about gams they themselves do not intend to play, this can only have a paramount effect.

Blame Angry Joe, AVGN and the rest of the first generation of youtube reviewers for this.

Everquest in the 90s had players and the gameplay was secondary.
You logged on, and stayed for the people, while doing some grinding in the meantime. Everquest today is a niche wasteland that only has these gameplay parts with none of the social, because that requires players. Same with pretty much any other MMO, or fuck even real life if you want to get armchair-philosophical.

I accept your concession.

EQLive is a wasteland, thats why people play on the emulated servers P99/Quarm or even newest THJ server.

i want to call this guy a fag but he pissed off OP with his pisswarm takes so i'm very conflicted
death to all MMOniggers

calling wow casual was always copium
the reality is that wow was the first MMO with gameplay worth engaging with on its own merits

Ok Dobby

I don't get it
Why are food analogies made fun of?
Its used because food is universal and easy to understand no matter what part of the world you live in.

food analogy bad because... I dunno, someone told me!

I’d fuck him

I use Blocktube
Not sure if its actually shit but it gets the job done. Doesnt seem to be able to block shorts however.

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Why are food analogies made fun of?

Too lazy to come up with an actual count argument.

I've never had that problem, but I also will go and delete things from my history if its a channel I intend to block so that may have something to do with it.

I've not herad of this extension either, but while you're on that train of thought, look into Sponsor Block if you're not using it. It'll change your life.

Why is this place so mentally buckbroken by reddit?

tutorial mines weren't in the game in 1999. it just dropped you in your starting city after character creation. a lot of EQ's appeal came from being 12 years old when you got the game and it being this huge, persistent, mysterious online world. Any wiki-like sites (Allakhazam) were really incomplete so you couldn't just look everything up and sharing cutting edge information wasn't standard since this was pre-reddit internet and knowledge was power in the game.
Final Fantasy XI took the EQ formula and improved on a lot of aspects of the gameplay (combat in particular, also graphics and music) while making other things worse (movement, zone design).
Then WoW came along and here we are. Classic WoW was legitimately a very good successor to EQ but it got worse with every expansion.

He actually plays the games for a bit and tells funi joke so even if you don't agree with his analysis always it's still really entertaining. Also his single player game reviews are great and thorough.

Most MMOs are like that. I'm pretty sure it has been studied to death when they saw how many hours people would sink in it and realise the whole kill, get dopamine repeat and set the endpoint after 1000 hours was a golden goose

because just like food, they don't get it

No, he's 100% correct HOWEVER jewtube will STILL fucking recommend you shit you already watched and clicked "don't recommend" on after some time is elapsed. It's a feature.

It was never hard.
There wasn't an imposed limit on the number of players in an instance until 1.3 and loot was updated in 1.4 to compensate this change. Debuffs also had a tier system so lower tier debuffs couldn't push higher tier ones off. You could make a case for class balancing but most of that was rectified fairly quickly with most classes getting talent tree revamps around the time of the BWL patch. I'm not saying the team did a perfect job because their insistence on arbitrarily changing shit and then at other times worshipping the code and vowing to never change it led to memorable things like:
Feral energy being completely fucked in TBC pre patch due to every resource being tied together for the new mans Regen system where if any resource changed the rate at which it generated you instantly got a tick for every resource and it reset the timer back to the start.
I could go on and on but fuck nublizz.

Let me guess, this is your breakfast.

Play Quarm or a Project 99 server. Current EQ1 is so bloated that its impossible for a newcomer to ever get into. It's been that way since the late 2000s.

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Download these and youtube will never disobey you again, bejitabro

you fucking saint.

will STILL fucking recommend you shit you already watched

Ah, so that's why I don't have any problems with it since I delete it from watch history.

Hey you just saw me post that in the Oblivion character thread, stop stealing my ideas for posts

and that is why I give boards.Anon Babble.org/v, a FAGGOT

out of ten

Feral energy being completely fucked in TBC pre patch due to every resource being tied together for the new mans Regen system where if any resource changed the rate at which it generated you instantly got a tick for every resource and it reset the timer back to the start.

This sounds like wizardry I wasn't aware of, and I say that as a Prot Pally who had to deal with "spell stance" fucking me over in Kharazim, making my defenses all drop to 0% until I went out of spell stance.

What would change the rate at which you regen?

i've been looking for this image for ages thank you anon

Wasn't he supposed to complain about Nexon games and completely miss the mark why their playerbases hate their games?

You posted a pic that has been posted on Anon Babble for years

I created it! I'm the creator of said screencap and the prior people who posted it don't count!

Oh i never denied that. It's just that social aspect is still important for the MMO to not be shit.
The part that's often overlooked about WoW, actually, is that TO THIS FUCKING DAY, with spaghetti code and retarded devs - it's the only mechanically TIGHT mmo. No one compares even in its undead state.
I dare you to find even one successful mmo that controls just as snappily and responsively as wow. Shit's black magic.

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Lmao, looking that up they demand money to use it. Go fuck yourselves.

it's both for the video so he doesn't do the unconcious hand movements but it's also for the viewer, tricking your brain into thinking you're having a casual conversation with a friend

WoW classic has 15 deep wounds ticking on bosses at all times. Damage output is insane compared to what it should be.

I'm glad you understand. Don't let it happen again

Retard cant read

There's a huge fucking button that says "I WANT IT FOR FREE" you jeet. You press that, and once the trial expires you get the full version

I assumed it was just so a stupid gimmick he chose to stand out from the crowd.

>People say that hard games CAN be popular because of Wow Classic

wow classic

hard

i know it's bait but i MUST reply to it

anarchyfags STILL seething

maybe you retarded boomers should seethe at funcom instead

And now that they've introduced a literal LITERAL 1-button-feature for DPS I actually hear people like JSH or Bellular fucking defending this shit because "it helps new players".

How would that help new players? That sounds like a huge noob trap and wouldn't fix the onboarding problems WoW always had for the new player experience and newbies going into current content.

gotta get ad money to fund youtubes

has done a serious number to this entire hobby

name ten games affected by youtube commentators

It also comes with a reduced GCD speed so it's literally not even viable to play in raids outside of raidfinder lol.
Blizzard REALLY needs new players.

bro you don't understand wow classic is incomprehensible to new players, it has to be otherwise my worldview doesn't make sense

maybe they saw that lorefags are completely done and due to "no negativity in the dojo" think it's because the game got too hard
when we all know the real answer is that shadowlands killed any interest in the story forever, you can't come back from some shit like that

Don't think that's specifically a youtube thing but a broader shift of internet culture in general. Just look at all the soulless political memes we have on Anon Babble and compare them to the olden days. Everything sucks now.

you can use ublock origin to hide the div container that holds shorts

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It seems laughable now, but Wow really did have a lot of people obsessing over the lore and the setting. Buying books/comics, creating fanfiction, roleplaying guilds...
Heh.

Ever since shorts inclusion youtube decided that every video under 30 seconds in non-16:9 ratio is a short, so doing that will also hide a good chunk of stuff i like.
I'd rather have an option to hide specific short spamming faggots, like those niggers who post movie clips and overlay shitty phonk all over them.

so doing that will also hide a good chunk of stuff i like.

skull issue on your part

i am not responsible for youjews hiding normal videos from me because they bundle them up with their shitty pseudo tik tok now. Fuck you.

This is one of the better youtubers. There are alot worse "creators" out there

Sorry anon, tiktok gotten too big, Google likes to follow suit so you WILL watch the shorts and we WILL disable the option to hide them.

you like garbage, and you're complaining that you have to sift through the dumpster to find trash that you like

same guy again
i refused to believe my fellow AO players were really this delusional and angry (no one else in the ironman org even knew about this video, and i enjoyed it - AO mentioned! hooray!)

so i went to the main AO discord

holy shit...

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anarchy online is a shit game, fuck off fag.

fanfiction

this one is crazy to me
fanfiction in general is more popular than ever and there are only 14 alleria/xal'atath fics on AO3
there are nearly a thousand jaina/sylvanas fics

Here's a pic of one of your "chads"

Based. I miss classic old schizo-esque söyrage like that.

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I was giving GMTK the benefit of the doubt until the video where the faggot has a meltdown over the lack of accessibility options in the hecking insensitive eastern games.

He personally killed Tera Online with his bare hands.

You can tell Anarchy Online is a good MMO because nobody plays it or even talks about it

Video games, faggot, VIDEO GAMES!

completely destroyed posh kike gays shitty video with no effort

rent
free
Dont worry, he'll make another hour long video on how he is not wrong

That's your video, isn't it

you can tell this online chat room is good because it's empty

what?

Introduction

The Industrialization of AAA games and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those titles for us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized gaming, have made games unfulfilling, have subjected gamers to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of triple A titles will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject gamers to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater gaming disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.

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I don't know who this is nor did I read your post, but that image radiates intense disingenuousness

If it was popular that would mean it's normie slop

This. The only good MMOs are single player RPGs.

dunno who this fag is, but going off this image and his shelf of funkos, he's likely a low iq midwit who thinks he is smart, constantly says obvious things as if they'r'e profound, repeats himself over and over, has low self esteem due to being a failure at what he wanted to do in life so he constantly has to reaffirm himself, and has a serious lack of personality, so he substituesit with sardonic wit (the lowest form of wit btw) and contrarianism

AO thread?
anyone have an IG crystal they will sell? or just give me? :)
if you'll also give a pair of inf boots i'd really appreciate it :)

all MMOs are normalfag slop
before wow they targeted people who didn't even care about the gameplay, they were just online chat rooms

People hate game journalists because they're terrible at games and don't get very far in them

Instead watch a smug brit guy review random old MMOs and complain about the stupidest shit that is unironically a skill issue like arguing that the game never told him he could move so he was supposed to assume it was a cutscene or something obscenely retarded

Also doesn't get very far in them playing multiple years old MMOs for 4-5 hours and deciding leveling to 15 out of 120 is the complete game experience

Do people just crave retarded opinions that it makes them seek them and make retards popular or something?

Proof that ESO is the only good MMORPG

Let me guess, you are one of those Anarchy Online niggers who got turbo-ass-blasted by his rather mild review, right?
'cause the crying about that is hilarious, on par with kikes screaming genocide when asked to do a little manual labor.

It doesn't. I've never even heard of this person until this thread.

buzzword laden post

Ironic that you use slop in the first sentence given that you're a premier dispenser of it.

The only ass blasting happening here is to josh's gaped sodomized rectum.

one lil fella on reddit calls you out on all your misinformation and fuckups, WITH TIMESTAMPS SO YOU CANT EVEN REFUTE HIM

proceed to have an hour long chimpout in a new video

The fact he constantly has to put out apology or follow up videos is proof that despite trying to frame himself as this deep lover of MMOs he never actually engages with the people that play whatever MMO he is covering.

it's indeed an Anarchy Online fag

Too easy.

This. Every MMO player knows that engaging with other people is a waste of time.

Josh Strife Hayes claims Anarchy Online is too obtuse for a new player to figure out. Let's examine one of his complaints:

starting inventory contains belt and nano (aka spell)

belt

requirements: computer literacy >= 20

nano

modifies computer literacy +20

"WHY CAN'T I EQUIP THIS BELT?!?!?!?!?"

HAHAHAHAHAHA

You went wrong. Stop watching these fags and the algorithm will stop recommending them to you. Also several of the left side were pre-YT era.

I remember him praising OSRS but any footage that I've seen of him playing it, he has his fans give him shit and lead him everywhere he needs while he talks to his chat.

He's literally a brainlet. In fact most of Anon Babble is nothing but brainlets for defending this shit. But alas you never know who's shilling this man.

*Sigh* Who made your faggot ass seethe this time?

Josh Strife acts exactly like Anon Babble anons, and it's disgusting.

He auto-attacked in RIFT and bitched about the lack of combat options despite the game telling him about the Spellbook that lets him actually use abilities. He has the brain of a Koala.

Zoomie did you even know what Anarchy Online was until your influencer brought it up?

Yeah the game is great and I'm having a lot of fun when I'm spoonfed everything I need while explaining everything like I'm retarded. Honestly though not that intuitive that someone traded me dragon weapons and it won't let me equip them.

Who the fuck would want to if they value their time whatsoever?

Retard calls slop MMOs that people hate slop

People cheer

Tries to say the line again about good MMOs

People angry

Retard simply cannot fathom why peoples opinions change he's saying the same thing from episode 1 to 124

good MMOs

No such thing.

this game is bad because I skipped the tutorial and now I am stuck

The game is le bad because it is le dead and it is le dead because it is le bad circular logic

reminder this insufferable faggot had a sperg meltie on twitter because people made fun of him because he was too retarded to beat dragon age and could t progress unless he switched to easy difficulty, where you don't have to learn the game or engage with any of it's mechanics, and someone commented that " if you play the game on easy, your opinion on a game does not matter and you're not qualified to critique it, as you did not actually play the game. You ignored all the mechanics"
Resulting in his meltdown where he started sperging that playing on easy is totally viable

Why don't you write a review about it so everyone can tell you you're wrong and retarded to?

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be me

don't even know who this faggot is

open one of his videos

hear british accent

close video immediately

Don't ever listen to anything these faggots say about video games. They are the harshest and most ridiculous critics. It's been like that since the 90s. They are horrendous. Never listen to them.

Because I'm not a fag like you, who gets his panties in twist because some stupid e-celeb bozo called a shitty dead game a shitty dead game.

PS1 games are dead and have low player count so they must be shitty dead games!

Retard

I think it's how unnatural his rise was. He just came out of nowhere with a millions subs from making such milquetoast content. He's like a nepobaby of youtubers.

PS1 games are MMOs

Genuinely braindead response, as expected from an MMO player.

it's a josh talks about theater and voice actors for half the MMO episode

it's a josh plays 5 minutes of the in-game audio clips episode

zzzzzzzzzzz

He got a massive boost from Asmongold reacting to his contend.

needing anything to sleep to

You are a baby. Lucky you will never be in a relationship because that shit won't fly.
and you're just straight up retarded. Set a fucking automatic shut off for your shit, you fucking moron.

god I hate br*tish people so much

Yes, it's alluding that just because something is past it's prime doesn't mean it's bad.

Hope this explanation helps!

This isn't just classic video games, man. This is EVERYTHING. Everyone 12 and up is trying to be YouTube's next big algorithm star. They'll say anything and start any conflict to favor the algorithm's graces. There's very few worthwhile careers that will still exist in 10-20 years. If you can get attention on YouTube you can earn income babbling shit about old media to strangers for 45 minutes, it's better than working two jobs and doing Door Dash on your day off.

if you apologize for doing nothing wrong, you're a cuck

Which is a retarded because single player games can't be dead, only online games can.
Dead MMOs are automatically shit because it means it couldn't make people want to stay and play it.
It's not "past it's prime", it was just never good.

The extreme normalization of watered-down slop content disguised as legitimate analysis of games has done a serious number to this entire hobby

I call this the Joseph Anderson phenomenon

Nope, not that anon, but I am honestly disappointed when he does these, because he plays MMOs as if they were single player games.
Its like playing call of duty and releasing a scathing review because its the worst RTS you ever played. Its grade A retarded.

A lot of older MMOs are fun to play they just had no endgame. If you stopped updating modern MMOs people would also stop playing them. You're unironically retarded if you equate that to just being a bad game because people aren't infinitely playing a game.

If you play a dying MMO and want it to stay that way, why would you care what some youtube hack has to say about it?

Because it's their whole identity, simple as.

Brother, oblivion never tells you it will scale the world out of its ass. Hell it even tricks you into bad decisions. I had to straight up restart, because out of the main abilities only 1 was combat oriented. So I ended up with lvl 99 boss monsters when I was still a lvl 2 crook.

british accent

critique is very superficial

still thousands of views and praise

qrd on people being impressed by brits?

The accent makes them cum and squirt.

If i had to guess no one else that isn't glazing those ancient games is making videos, at least no one else that doesn't sound like Fat Bastard.

and complain about the stupidest shit that is unironically a skill issue

I mean one of the complaints in the AO videos was the game literally eating up quest items and putting them into inaccessible storage. I think that is a pretty legitimate complaint.

unhealthy obsession

talking about how gay and retarded andrew tate is for like 1 stream is "obsessed"? andrew tate is washed up now, yes, but his influence is still felt and the poison that is his mutt PUA pimp lifestyle is still felt around the world. its annoying as fuck and its tragic as fuck that such a cartoon character like him legit managed to slurp up a bunch of teens and young men

He filled a niche no one else really bothered to fill.
Who the fuck is reviewing MMOs it takes a ludicrous amount of time that this retard simply isn't even putting in. He's just successful because no one else even bothered or tried. Notice that no one even attempted to imitate him like everyone does on Youtube.

analysis

90% of the vid is just a recap of the story

I want to apologize to all high school teachers, I had no idea how difficult it was to write something.

so anarchy online players being turbo autists caused them to have a spectacular meltdown huh?
some of the games I enjoy are horrifically bad for new players and the devs suck ass and I wouldn't recommend them to people, why the fuck are these fags chimping out?

Above average content (if barely), consistent enough uploads, and exposure trough a bigger channel.
That's it. Sure you can cry its all luck, but at the end of the day, you need consistently milquetoast content if you want to get lucky.

I get recommended this guy's videos after I ask not to be. I've never watched any of them.

mfw tired of the sloppa reviews

mfw try zoomer reviews instead

Yeah ok so like in this game it's like no cap you know? cuh is for real in this game like no andy no stan, like, chief this IS it and its deadass poppin, just like slappin dat gyatt, like this shit got rizz like the rizzler took several seats on the booty train like lets goooo brother you have to play this bussin ass game like char LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

he lets 'his' woman dictate what he can and cant do

eh he is pretty inoffensive and at least he plays video games. sometimes i think faggots here are just mad that people give a fuck about what e-celebs say while they're here screaming into the void to no fanfare. i can't help but have this opinion when shit like the OP doesn't deliver any examples of their points and is resigned to just say its a narcissist making slop. there is more ego bleeding through in this post than this fags videos.

he actually goes over that in the second video that's a response to all the whining from the AO players. Namely, since he didn't go on youtube to find new player guides he wasn't aware of just how much the old playerbase is doing to make the game playable, namely by using bots to spam buffs on players or do stuff like hold doors open.

Its because valid criticism is mixed with terrible ideas.
Imagine having a British dude smugly entering an origami convention and attempting to convince everyone how much more beginner friendly it would be if they allowed everyone to use scissors and glue.
Or hell even better, a natural rock climbing spot, and just start chiseling in holds. You know to make it more beginner friendly.
tl:dr
Gatekeep your hobbies.

OP is 100% an anarchy online player

what are you?

product designed solely for cheap, disposable entertainment made by a charlatan

Sounds like 99% of games, what's the problem

killing floor 3

tripwire only gives early access keys to zoomers

KF3 IS LOOKING DOPE FR

actual real humans play it a week later

all agree its terrible

The only guy who did it properly was Matthewmatosis.

he didn't go on youtube to find new player guides

I mean that is pretty fair criticism. If you are going to pick up decades old games, especially multiplayer ones, surely you would check out at least the forums or some online discourse for beginners right?
What are the odds that you would be interested enough in an old game to pick it up, but not enough to look up some onboarding help.

Reminder that Anon Babble is yet to recover from this comment on Diablo 4 from Josh.

Then it's also fair to state that the onboarding of the game itself is shit.

My biggest gripe is when I search for info on a game via YouTube and literally every result is from the same 2-4 channels trying to monetize their videos. Pumping out a bunch of slop on a regular basis doesn't make someone the 'go to' authority on a topic.

I have never once in my life needed "onboarding help" for a video game

People who've never touched an MMO unironically think that all of them play like Sword Art Online or something. Someone showing them what it is is all they want and no one does that.

Hell half the people think Modern WoW is just like riding around on wolves and attacking factions cities and FFXIV is just some really long visual novel where you get jobs to build houses inbetween the story. Especially before people commonly streamed MMOs it's why a lot of content creators suddenly took off.

People want someone to explain what the fuck you even do in these games because they simply don't know and watching a stream of someone doing random shit doesn't explain anything.

developer funcom abandons the game

players step in as custodians, using bot accounts to automate a lot of shit including applying buffs to new characters or basic shit other games have like CHECKING HOW MANY PEOPLE IN YOUR GUILD ARE ONLINE

this is basically their life now, think classicfags from wow but 10x worse

new guy steps in and very loudly says "this sucks"

turbo autists get personally offended because AO has become their life, and if AO sucks then what have they spent their life on

I never even recovered from him killing Tera

jokes on you, all your favorite video games had onboarding help in the form of easy levels!
he really says this

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What? I literally explained how you have to go out of your way to avoid good onboarding, just so you can pretend its bad.
Same thing with games like Path of Exile. You have to literally put on blinders to not get help. That coupled with in game chat that allows you to ask literally any question and old communities being generally helpful if newbies try to enter the game, makes you just an asshole if you pretend that the onboarding is bad.
No idea how its with AO, but I would be pissed if someone would talk shit about the beginner experience for the mmos I play, considering the effort me and other people in the communities have put into beginner guides.
Its not just insulting the game at that point, which is fair play, but the whole communities effort.

You should be happy someone breathed some new life in to your dead shit mmo

he says it because it's true
if you need to watch a youtube video to understand a game the designers have failed on a level so fundamental it's a wonder they're able to tie their shoes

I have never once in my life needed "onboarding help" for a video game

Yea, sure. Not a single game you played had a tutorial level.
Gotcha.
And we are not talking about onboarding for a single player game. We are talking about onboarding for a 10+ year old MMO with years and years of updates and extra content. When those got released you did not need onboarding either, because there was a fraction of shit to deal with.

dude shits on shitty mmos

this is bad for some reason

lol

If your game requires external tutorials to function then it's a failure on the part of the game, it's as simple as that.

slop

Anytime I hear or see this word, I immediately stop reading and disagree with whoever said it. Slop used to mean something, now it's a buzzword that even normalfags throw around IRL. it means nothing anymore.

Goodbye, OP.

captcha: DONG

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tutorial level

yes that's the reason I've never needed onboarding help you retard

His build wasng retarded, he didnt min max just to show how bad it would be for a normal player

You missed the point faggot, if you have to watch or read content outside of the game to learn mechanics or knowledge then thr game is outright bad at teaching the player how to play the game,

people arguing about their favorite youtubers and ecelebs

Anon Babble is dead

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Thanks for introducing me. I want to suck his dick incredi-bad.

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Ill use DFO as an example, for a long time after initial release, lvls 1-40 were out, and the journey of playing the game through the forest, into sky tower, then behemoth took awhile and you learned how the game played and getting good gear was a massive boon, having a full party could still wipe on the king difficulty but ultimately the journey was just as important as the destination, now the game is so focused on end game shit that everything is an absolute cakewalk to that point its just not interesting to play

that's not even muscle
he's just pushing his arm fat to his chest

You're the same kind of retard who never learned the age-old tactic of "ignore them" when you got bullied back in the day, huh.

post arms

I've played AO for a few months every few years apart, like a little bit this decade, a little bit last decade.

Here are the facts.

1. It fucked up launch.
I wasnt even there, but the evidence is everywhere in the internet archives.It never recovered from this.

2. Because it fucked up launch WoW could megarape it at their launch with their much simpler dumb-downed gameplay and more mainstream recognizable setting, riding off the great success of warcraft 3.

3. Shadowlands expansion was its last attempt at staying relevant by copying WoW's fantasy genre. It was a great expansion. One of the best in vidya history, but it was faaaaar too late. The damage was already done (at launch).

4. The game has a 10/10 atmosphere and social system, and the deepest itemization / character building of any mmorpg even to this day, but this will never make up for its god awful trash performance, graphics (the style/design is ok), and lack of players (which are 100% neccessary so do anything in AO content).

5. its too expensive, buggy, and full of hacks

They are bad if they are hard for the sake of being hard, if the controls are obtuse and annoying to do for the sake of it then it is, its like thinking qwop is a good game when its primarily just funny because of how annoying it is to move

Okay so list some ACTUAL good vidya YouTube content that isn’t pretentious reviews or slop content
For me, it’s

Gamesack

Kbash

Nerrel

Pikasprey (only for his non Pokémon stuff, I don’t give a fuck about Pokémon)

Noah Caldwell Jervais

Hazel

Cvit

Electric Underground

The fuck you talking about, he plays the game and then gives his personal feedback on it, you are effectively lying about your points

I liked Gaming Historian
But I think he quit making videos

So you support the casualizations of mmo's since you are too retarded to look up guides online or watch videos, i mean shit its all right there stop being such a faggot

Oh, so chess is a failure on the part of the game?
You do realize the vast majority of games require some sort of external tutorial or preexisting knowledge.
Also you are ignoring the fact that its a multiplayer experience and you are free to ask other players for help if you get stuck.
Seriously, just stop playing mmos if you don't want to play multiplayer games.

Nothing, you just don't filter shit or don't know how to filter it then end up with equivalent of old AMVs crap because you're as passive as boomer watching cable.
Remember when you see something on your front page and won't hide it the algorithm assume you might be interested, it's positive feedback, you need to actively hide everything you don't like, "not interested" mean you don't want to see this content, it's negative feedback, "don't recommend channel" mean you are interested in the topic but not the channel, it's both positive and negative feedback, this means generally yt will keep recommending you the channel because you're interested in the topic it covers. Commenting is always a positive feedback because you're interested enough to engage in discussion. Same with likes/dislikes. If you already opened something you're not interested in just close the video, watching less than 2min/30% of the video is always a negative feedback. Removing something from your watch history is also a negative feedback.

you did not need onboarding because you had onboarding

Are you retarded? Genuinely asking.
Holy shit he got fat.

No you see, the game needs to convey TWENTY FOUR YEARS worth of game info to me within the first 30 minutes or your game is bad

He really thinks like that btw

I can't play chess solo, I can start and play Anarchy Online solo. What a retarded comparison made by a dumb midwit.

MMOs should onboard new players
Even more so for older ones
If not, it will never stay healthy
It will stagnate and die

entire video is a recap of the plot in the guise of analysis

People who make videos like this need to be lynched

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Are you retarded? What do you think this thread is even about? The complaint is about watching youtube tutorials

To be fair, that happened to AO long before Josh made a video on it, and none of his critiques means anything because there's no one around to fix anything.
It's quite literally already dead.
He at least managed to make it have a death spams after poking it

Yep, retarded he is. Ofc you can play chess solo. You can practice openings, you can do chess puzzles. Hell you can even practice against yourself with "what would I do" scenarios.
Your brain seems to be as smooth as a glass marble, isn't it?

You can't play tennis alone

Actually, you can! Just hit the ball against the wall!

Okay dude.

sounds like someone didn't like his opinions on Anarchy Online

electric underground

not pretentions

not slop

LOL. LMAO even. fuck outta here mork, go steal some more opinions from your euroshmup dev friends or something.

Lmao, I decided to check how bad it is. You literally can not avoid new player help. Just typing in Anarchy online into google already bombards you with "getting started with the basics", forums and videos that help you. Holy shit I thought the backlash is because nerds just got mad, but he intentionally had to go out of his way to make the game look way worse than it is.

Eh? He's right. AO sucks.

That doesn't make it a bad game.

I was holding mugs off camera for YEARS and now all these fags want to capitalize on my schtick? What gives

You are a samefagging butthurt AO player
Not fooling anyone

...that is literally how I practiced for a long ass time. That and the ball on a rubber string. Kinda lets you practice at all times so you don't need a partner.

the point is that you shouldn't have to type any of that anywhere that's not inside the game you stupid fuck
those google results are also mostly wrong and outdated

electric underground is retarded half the time but unfortunately your frog has shown you to be retarded 100% of the time so I will disregard your opinion. I would call it pretentious (non-Indian spelling) some of the time but I wouldn't call it slop.

Watch his lotro critique and you will realize this guy is an actual retard and his opinions are worth less than the dog shit on my shoe.

Just a few off the top of my head

There is no fall damage

There absolutely is fall damage

There is too much quest text

You are playing a lord of the rings lmao

The game is p2w because there are stat buffs in the shop

Those buffs are craftable by cooks and scholars, and take no effort to make, they're for lazy retards like josh

Woooooooow, the game gave me a mount but I have to buy the riding skill from the cash shop?

The quest that gave you the horse also gave you 10 coins to buy the skill in the cash shop. The quest is meant to teach you how to open the store. Maybe don't skip text next time?

My class, the captain learned how to summon this guy carrying a flag, I thought he was gonna fight alongside me but no, he's standing there doing nothing

There is a huge fucking new actionbar in the bottom left corner of the screen that you somehow aren't seeing. Your herald isn't fighting because it is set to "do nothing" by default

There are no lumberjacks in this lumberyard chopping wood. It's so immersive and makes it feel like a world

Are you for real right now?

you are only upset cause he's right

AO is a GREAT game thouhh

trips of truth...

Or the rift one where he couldn't figure out how to put skills on his bar and then pretended there was no tutorial

Those buffs are craftable by cooks and scholars, and take no effort to make, they're for lazy retards like josh

You do realize that this still makes it pay to win. Its fine if you tolerate it, but its still pay to win. Someone who pays cash to get these buffs, does not need to spend time crafting them, or buying them with in game currency, which means they can spend more time getting better gear/more exp, thus getting an insurmountable advantage over non paying players.
That is not to defend the brit here, I just really dislike it when people defend blatantly P2W cash shops just because they want to gobble the companies cock for some reason. Time is finite, and any time advantage in a cash shop is paying for an advantage, which is by default p2w.

boulder punch

retro rebound

simply aj

Nyarly (but only for castlevania)

Painticus

i hope you kill yourself.

you aren't wrong. but the well is poisoned and can't be unfucked.
discourse on Anon Babble is even worse post shut down if anything.

It's still p2w

Except it isn't. It's pay to save time.
And we're talking like 10 minutes at most.
Crafting and gathering is easy and takes no time. I don't even know why those boosts are in the shop. No one is buying that shit.

Quest is directly tied to the in-game shop

Garbage game just for that.

MMORPG autists with 9999 hours cannot comprehend their videogame is shit and decide to lash out after coming to the realization they've wasted all of that time after watching his videos.

Except it isn't. It's pay to save time.

Time is money, friend!

he plays MMOs as if they were single player games

Most of the ones he plays have playerbases in the double figures or triple at best.

Yes, practiced.

LotR online is not pay to win

I actually stopped reading your post there. I know people say that and they really did, but I actually have no idea what else you just said because it absolutely 100% is pay to win. EVERY SSG game is pay2win.

He plays them like a new player, you retard. Do you think people run around in groups of 30-40 looking for a new MMO to play? He is acting as if he just some dude who downloaded the game and tries it out. If the game's tutorial is shit, is p2w as fuck, and requires you to have a wiki open to know what to do it is just poorly designed by today's standards and if you played a game like that without having played it for 20 years then you'd think the same fucking thing.

Teaching players how to use the shop, where they can also buy expansions for free if they grind out achievements for coins is le bad

This nigga really defending a cash shop

Why are people seething so much about a review showing that the new player experience as a new player is shit?

Feel free to list the things in the shop that make it p2w.
The only criteria: it must only be obtainable in the shop

Do you have any idea what p2w means?

This niggeR thinks a free game shouldn't have a cash shop

So they just...aren't allowed to make any money? You realize lotro is still being developed for right? They also just released new 64 bit servers so the rubber banding is gone

The only criteria: it must only be obtainable in the shop

Hurr durr you can grind f2p quests for 10,000 hours to constantly rebirth your DDO character or you can spend money to buy strength tomes... s-so it is not p2w!!!
You buy power. You skip the grind. It is pay2win. You're a fucking loser if you're defending this shit. SSG are the kings of milking their declining playerbases by selling power in their shops that the hardcore players see as standard.

EVERY SSG game is pay2win

You are genuinely retarded.

autism speaks

i cant think of a game where the new player experience was NOT shit. its like a mandatory thing for gaming. look at crap like wow. fucking double/triple digit hours of bot farming content and people treat it like sliced bread.

Pay
To
Win
So go ahead chump. Post things in the cash shop that give you an advantage over free players.
Reminder: PvP is a completely separate game mode and doesn't use your own character

I think generally speaking OSRS has a pretty solid new player experience, it's the mid to late game jump that is the real problem but they have been adding content to mitigate those issues

No argument

I accept your concession of defeat
You are a retard who doesn't know what p2w is because you've never actually played a p2w gookslop lmao where they sell cash shop exclusive pets that auto loot/increase your stats

You don't know shit. Selling a fucking cooking buff that would take a player less than 5 minutes to gather and craft is not p2w, that's just milking lazy paypigs

Found the lotro player

selling a buff isn't p2w

uniformed at best – and disingenuous at worst – rants about gams

Proofread your shit, you are worse than these people you are ranting about

Great post. I wholeheartedly agree. Death to streamers. Useless bunch that are a detriment to gaming.

I liked his review of AO. It was funny ans unhinged. And he was 100% correct about the vibe and music and sound effects.

yeah its a shit game but god damn does it have atmosphere.
mark shitterberg could have bought AO to make metaverse

He doesn't rant about a nice pair of legs, while donning his finest uniform

I understand why they do it
But I wouldn't defend it
Especially if it has pay for convenience/pay for power

3. Shadowlands expansion was its last attempt at staying relevant by copying WoW's fantasy genre. It was a great expansion. One of the best in vidya history, but it was faaaaar too late. The damage was already done (at launch).

what the fuck are you talking about?
Shadowlands launched in 2003, over a year before vanilla WoW launched
i'll assume for both of us you made a mistake and meant EQ

Jellys. He looks hot af.
Also cleans up nicely.

nah I meant wow
they knew it was coming to destroy them in 2003.
remember the first previews were from like 2001 or even earlier

He's spoken about having a big ego and liking it, he was a teacher, he's getting buff, plans to have zero kids so he can fuck stacies daily. He's the perfect man and you're jealous.

tbf that game has really good pantsu-service i would scream too

You got it wrong.
Journalist could be bad at games and not be hated if their criticism held that fact in consideration.
But they don't and instead act like they have a deep understanding of the game only to get exposed for playing on easy where half the mechanics can be ignored.

A live streamer is inherently more 'honest' regarding reviews of games they played on stream because there is direct evidence as to how they played.
So even if they end up acting in the exact same manner the viewer already has the extra context needed to identify issues with the criticism.

That's not to say its impossible for them to be as dishonest as journos but that it takes a lot more effort.

Why are Anarchy Online players so sensitive?

people who still play shit like this are 40+ old as fuck failures at life so anything that even remotely critiques their pathetic purpose of life (playing an old, extremely bad video game) they lash out as it reminds them of their mortality.

Watch one of his videos

This MMORPG is bad because it's not like WoW

Watch another one of his videos

This MMORPG is bad because it's too much like WoW

All while he's sniffing his own farts and LARPing like he's a game dev or something

which ones did you watch

Yeah and that's why people go through his videos time stamping where he's inherently wrong or just incredibly stupid/bad at the game.

He literally also played on easy and ignored the mechanics while reviewing dragon age and uses save states when possible. And when called out about it, he just deflects in 100 different ways about how either he's a reviewer and needs to get it out asap or it's just for entertainment etc... All while talking as if his opinion is fact and he knows everything there is to know.

It's the same shit you can just see him doing it which is why people don't like him.

I think it's how unnatural his rise was. He just came out of nowhere with a millions subs from making such milquetoast content. He's like a nepobaby of youtubers.

The same happened to Asmongold, Piratesoftware and this guy.
And it's all unnatural, Asmongold was doing the exact same videos like always and then he joined Night Media™ and all of a sudden his videos were recommended to EVERYONE on youtube.
Piratesoftware was one of the most subbed channels on twitch despite being a nobody, if you look at the stats nearly ALL his subs were gifted which is extremely unnatural as like 90% of subs on twitch are from prime.

None

yeah - his overall point is correct, the new player experience in AO is terrible
worst part is the current tutorial is the 4th tutorial the game has had (backyard, sl backyard, island, arete - current), and it is still garbage
why is there a *mandatory* mission to craft an implant (not counting skipping arete entirely via credit card)? "here's ur leg bro" doesn't help someone learn how to play the game
why is there a mission that starts from a 5% droprate item (lucky sword)?
why does the armor vendor in the tutorial area mission for a vacuum-packed medsuit? new players don't know what medsuits are for, or where to get higher level healing stims. there is literally a set of armor called "newcomer's armor" that is designed for new players and levels up with you! why doesn't the new player armor mission give a set of new player armor?!
why are there basic armor missions in the tutorial area (basic armor is a crafting component for alien armor, which requires the alien invasion expansion pack)? new players will have no idea what to do with these, and if they are f2p the items will be useless for them anyways (yes they could finish the missions and sell the basic armor but why not give new players something they can actually use??)
and regarding money - why do the missions in the tutorial area give like 2k credits, then when you leave they give like 300 at the most? how are players supposed to get new gear and nanos once they leave the tutorial area and don't have any money? wait till they are lvl 60 for the 10k credits from turning the the totw wine bottle??? why do subway mobs drop so little money??

Those all make sense because they all figured out the algorithm at some point.
Youtube loved serving piratesoftware shorts because they were trying to push shorts no matter how many times you clicked don't show me this. All because people would watch it multiple times and people would send it to friends as a source of "WELL THIS GUY WORKS AT BLIZZARD AND IM PARROTING WHAT HE SAYS SO ME AND HIM ARE ALWAYS RIGHT." It's not unnatural they just lucked into doing the right thing at the right time. It's also not that hard to understand why the algorithm would favor them. Asmongold especially since he's just Ray William Johnson that nods says uh huh then gives some retarded take that everyone emotionally responds to.

because they all figured out the algorithm at some point.

No they didn't, you think only those few people out of tens of thousands of people that even work at that field never "figured out the algorithm"?
Asmon did the exact same videos he was doing for decades when he "blew up" like he was before, nothing new.
How do you explain piratesoftware INSANE difference with gifted subs compared to other twitch streamers? twitchtracker.com/piratesoftware/subscribers
There's nothing natural about their growth at all, "figuring out the algorithm " isn't some kind of magic only a few people could do.

why isnt everyone a retarded weeb pedo like me?!?!?!? wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You need to stop obsessing over internet celebrities. Seriously.

Anon Babble suddenly likes britbongs

what happened

They like talking shit about games more

never give in!

did not expect to see them get referenced at all, especially in a Anon Babble thread

Asmongold became popular and blew up when he streamed FFXIV. He streamed WoW doing the same fucking thing for years and guess what it didn't work. It's not out of "nowhere". Most people also were curious about what FFXIV because people just parade it as the greatest story in any video game ever told(It's not it's terrible and sucks) so him going through the story for everyone was insightful at the time and what people wanted. He used that popularity to click farm through peoples emotional responses which algorithms love.
The same as pirate software having people link his youtube shorts then those same people feeling like they owe him something going to his twitch to drop subscribers.

It's easy if you critically think about the chain of events that led to them blowing up. Pirate software wasn't popular on Twitch first he just did coding streams for his dogshit game he'll never finish. No one else is saying they worked at blizzard and dropping extremely generic advice as if it's the most insightful thing just like no one else was a "1000 year WoW veteran plays other MMO?!?!?!" at the time when Blizzard had the most universal community hate possible and people wanted to know what XIV was even about.

Asmongold became popular and blew up when he streamed FFXIV

He blew up and was recommended to everyone WAAAY before that.(when he joined Night Media) Why are you lying?

Majuular
Sean Seanson
Grim Beard

becase there are no good mutt video game youtubers.

he watches video essays

please do anything that requires your input holy fuck

Avalanche reviews

I choose not to pay attention this. I also choose not to watch enough of this guy to even remotely care about his drama.

One of the things he's almost always right about is the "endstage mmo syndrome" which eventually affects all older games
Playerbases dwindle, remaining players are only running new endgame content, to fix this issue devs will try to offer ways to skip the entire journey just so newbs can interact with other people. Combine that with clearly predatory cash shop models and it doesn't matter how good the game MIGHT have been 20 years ago. What matters is that the publisher of the game is trying to sell you, a new player, the game as it's presented - which is shit. AO trannies are getting mad despite their game falling into all the same pitfalls of other reviews.

Most games that still have playerbases won't even get mad when he brings this up. I remember when his Tree of Savior review dropped, everyone commenting agreed that the current day version was shit and the only people still playing were driven by nostalgia. But there are some groups that can't humble themselves.

The point was

you should judge a game only by its past and original competition

you should judge a game only by its present and current competition

is hot air and arguing like a broken clock - just because you agree it's 2 o'clock once doesn't mean the clock is right the rest of the day.

this guy sounds like a prick for some reason

Modern games are punishment, not entertainment.
Developers like Naughtydog hate the word fun.

BlockTube

Are you the dude who had a meltdown because he shit on Anarchy Online?

serious fucking replies from dozesns of people with intimate knowledge of these e-celebs

It really is reddit in here.

I think so. I also think he was samefagging the whole thread lol

It's a bunch of Kiwi Farms posters, not Redditors.

Asmongold was popular before he joined Night Media...

OP is an anarchy online player.

Classic WoW releasing too was a huge part of him becoming a more known entity because it put WoW into the spotlight. He had a small following before all that as the guy screaming big dick dps with a disaster of a room but him streaming other MMOs catapulted him and remain his highest avg viewed games while also catapulting him into the spotlight outside of just the most stereotypical looking loser playing WoW.

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His other channel where he reviews old games I grew up with is soul and the only time I watch him.
Yes he's trying to be a gentleman but I don't sense dishonesty and he's also pretty funny. His chrono trigger review is super comfy and those videos are way better than the mmo dog shit

why does josh look fat but also not fat at the same time?

muh treadmill

muh weights

why does he look like cottage cheese

Don't you shit on my boy technology connections. That's the pure tism the internet needs.

I do think in a way it's depressing that a lot of super niche MMOs are forced to do these things just so any new players who accidentally stumble on it can actually play with people, simply because it's more expedient/cheaper than creating systems to incentivize vets to actually help noobs get through the game normally. At least something like Guild Wars 1 (not an MMO but for the sake of an example) lets you run through the whole game with NPC party members so you can just play it as one big solo-RPG.

It's called a sleeper build.

The extreme normalization of watered-down slop content disguised as legitimate analysis of games has done a serious number to this entire hobby

Pic unrelated?

Josh is one of the very few reviewers who actually talks about the nitty gritty and new player experience of games themselves over things like the lore, story, or surface-level criticisms of graphics or character designs etc.

You picked the worst possible channel to criticize for this. I'm suspicious this is bait.

It's genuinely an AO player seething because AO is a dead game propped up by maybe 50 people. 100 tops.

Using OpenL to translate from Retard:
I like him because he also plays on easy and is too stupid to understand basic directions. It's the same experience I would have because I'm really fucking stupid.

hahaha

At least with a game like Entropia, you can make money. Don't know what people do in Anarchy Online all day.

People who've never touched an MMO unironically think that all of them play like Sword Art Online

I wish MMOs played like how .hack// depicted them. Full dive immersion will always be a pipe dream in my lifetime but it's MY pipe dream goddammit!

Yeah dude none of that lore or story or character designs are important.
Get me to the nitty gritty of does the tutorial tell me exactly what to do so I can skip it and complain about how I don't understand I can't equip gear it says I don't have stats for then switch to playing on easy so I can also ignore every game mechanic.

It's be extremely boring walking around in a city all day doing nothing but talking to people then going to go RP in a church.
Thank god viruses attacked so something would happen.

Play through the tutorial

3x3 grid while shopping for implants

The Resident Evil tank controls and how super fucking tiny the map and view distance for the little dots didn't help as well.

That's just SIGN, the games actually had gameplay sometimes.

Also most things he touches are super old or super obscure. It's cool to see some RU shit mmo that has 3 ppl logged in.

Didn't bother with it too tedious, I just hit load save state every time I took damage. Gotta say though games pretty monotonous.

never received a single indian bot channel rec before

What are you watching, anon?

makes a video

gets called out on being wrong

makes a follow up video to test himself against the allegations

admits he was off and corrects himself

makes another video

gets called out for being wrong

makes a follow up video to test himself against the allegations

reaffirms his original assessment and calls his complaining viewers out for having an unhealthy attachment to an outdated game

suddenly see threads about him on Anon Babble

Goddamn you guys are fragile.

Dude plays games on easy and struggles to understand simple RPG concepts. I think it's safe to say his opinion is dog shit even more so when he doubles down on them for whatever reason. Anytime he reviews a game with an actual fan base that isn't dead he has to make a follow up review because he spends like 2 hours playing a fucking MMO complaining about why he isn't having fun yet.

He praises OSRS as the greatest game ever while people just give him everything he needs and tell him exactly where to go and what to do. I think it's safe to say he's a retard that deserves to get made fun of.

joltzdude139

Only difference between game journo reviewers and youtubers, is you can digest the journo's bile in less than five minutes, while the youtuber rambles on for a half-hour and doesn't put it in text.
Otherwise they're all the same assholes.

Is he really 50 years old?

Yes, and he also played Rob Stark on Game of Thrones.

you cant just say that

how do you ignore someone who presents themselves as someone who has played a game but all he has done is watch a shitty recap video and absorbed the video maker's opinions? especially in an anonymous online discussion. answer is you cant ignore them. you just have to accept 80% of people online are parrots with a lot to say while having zero hours on a video game.

i close my eyes...? like, come on, anon. are you for real? just block the channel and move on. are you 12 years old?

Chat, grokis this true?!
In a serious note, my favorite illustration of this is the Souls community. The games were literally torn apart and dissected to the degree that having any inconvenient conversation or daring to criticize the games instantly spirals into massive shit storms where "fans" won't even have any original ideas and opinions, but will just parrot the talking points from their favorite YouTuber and if you were u fortunate to watch those videos they're quoting it's so depressing. The most popular content creators have a complete authority over the conversation of those games and they enjoy that power to the fullest, to the point even the publishers/developers have to take them into account, they can't be ignored. And their fanbases protect those shitty essayist and the games with a foam on their moths. Try to criticize anything Elden Ring fairly, and you will immediately get hundreds of "git gud" nerds that even understand the difficulty was never the goal on itself in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1.
As for JSH, this guy claims to understand MMOs when he barely ever played any sandbox ones and is basically a theme park baby. His views are so narrow because of this yet he became one of the most popular spokespersons in the MMO conversation and now that whole discussion is ruined.

anon
just don't watch the videos
in fact, don't watch shitty youtube essayslop to begin with, given that you don't even like the content to begin with

still p2w retard.

play game

NOOOO YOU CAN'T REVIEW THE GAME AFTER PLAYING IT!

ok retard.

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