I just installed this game. What am I in for?
I just installed this game. What am I in for?
stacking twenty different buff spells before every fight and 1 level multiclass dips
The most fun take on classic CRPG gameplay mostly due to a great UI and a ton of character building options. Writing that has horrid whiplashes between pretty good and worst shit you've ever read. Some of the worst party members in video game history. Fun power fantasy. Terrible kickstarter backer content.
How is Kingmaker?
Objectively worse even though the difference in story and power scaling may be more appealing to you. Much worse UI missing a lot of good features WotR added, less character building options, worse encounter design, limited camera control, writing suffers from the same problems, kingdom management is way more intrusive with way more annoying time limits and convoluted reward requirements than WotR's crusade management.
Still enjoyable if you're really into these types of games but WotR is just better overall.
Writing is decent but nothing amazing. Feels like a very traditional fantasy crpg.
Good story. Bad combat
Anything I should know before jump in?
Be ready to spend hours going through the character creator.
taking a nap.
miss me with that turn based shit.
Wendu best waifu
Kino
Yes
Don't discuss the game's romances on this website unless you want to intentionally attract a shitstorm coming your way
It's bad for every franchise, sure, but for Owlcat games it's somehow worse.
She is pathetic disgusting worm
Kino game. You need autism to fully enjoy it THOUGH.
Downloading a mod that applies the buffs for you with one button click. Once you get over that hurdle and the fact that without it you'd be spending 30 minutes reapplying buffs with each rest - A good cRPG that doesn't shy from level 20 brokenness and allows you to feel like a god in a game that's supposed to be about becoming a god (unlike Baldur's Gay 3, where most spells worth a damn are unlocked by level 5)
Rise of the Runelords when?
Any tips on character building? Let's say I want to be an archer or something similar.
Warrior. You will have enough feats to bloat the sun and then some.
A bit boring to play tho.
Kingmaker had superior companions though. Wotr ones are anything between insufferable and bland, with one acceptable romance option. I'll take Amiri, Jubilost, Harrim, Nok-Nok, Linzi, Schizo twins and Valerie over Aru on any given day. I haven't played Kingmaker in 5+ years and I still remember its companions in greater detail than the slop Owlcat writers cooked in Wotr. That's how good they were.
worse setting, worse story, worse characters, worse gameplay systems
It's still OKAY, but goddamn does it feel mediocre by comparison. I have tried no less than 5 times to get through it and I just cannot; absolutely nothing felt compelling
Slayer is what you want
I tried playing this game once but whatever difficulty I put it on made it retarded. What is objectively the most fun one to play on?
I did not played kingmaker but i enjoyed wotr companions, regill, lann, greybor were Perfect
Woljif, daeran, sheelah, nenio, arue were ok
Cam and wenduag i can easly kill so its ok
Does she only sleep on her stomach?
is it like baulders gate 2 shadows of amn?
that was really fun at my friends and then i got it and it sucked hard (this was maybe 20 years ago)
I never understood the prebuffing meme. How are you supposed to buff yourself before the fight if... you dont know when the fight is going to break out? do you guys play this game with a guide?
Mutation Warrior is the best class in the entire game and you get big style points for using a 2 handed greatsword
normal. i like to toggle the "only active companions get xp" thing as well as "more enemies" which means more xp. then i just leave all my gay companions in town and go out killing everything myself until the chapel event where you lose your companions. toggling off the xp thing means that when you get them back, they will match your level, essentially speed leveling them
It's for autists (read: owlcat fans) who've already played the game and are doing challenge runs on higher difficulty where for the most part you need to use some buffs. The higher the difficulty, the more buffs you'll need to stack.
Yes, you need to obviously know the fight is coming. Or savescum
You have 3 types of buffs in this game. 24h+ ones which you can apply liberally, the hour+ lasting ones which you can apply liberally at higher levels and turn+ lasting ones which you apply during combat (one turn = 6 seconds in this game).
In end game you easily have 30+ buffs and potions to maintain if you do alchemist dips. It's absolutely brutal to manage buffs in this game without mods.
That's what I thought but this topic comes up even when someone asks whether they should try the game out, or threads just like this where the 1st post is about prebuffing.
Are there even any good 24h+ buffs? I got burnt out in act3 and the only 24h spell I remember was a cantrip which made your character emit light
Canon KC is;
Aasimar
Female
Bard
Chaotic Good
Azata
Romance Arue
Ascension ending
Impregnated with twins
If it is your first playthrough. Play it on casual or normal. After that you can try core or even unfair if you grasp the mechanics and love the game. But seriously enjoy your first playthrough.
I would recommend you start organizing your skills and abilities on your combat interface. For example this is my Daeran and you can see his abilities all orderly organized on his taskbar. You have 10 taskbars with each taskbar having 14 slots. You also have 2 quick taskbars aligned vertically on the left. I use one taskbar for abilities, 1-2 taskbar for buffs and 3rd or 4th taskbar is generally for all the summons from level 1 to 10. Having a neat and orderly taskbar will ease your buffing and combat in general(which will help you tremendously on unfair) to the point that you require mods like Bubble Buffs.
TL;DR - Organized characters will improve your gaming experience.
based azata yurichad I missed you last thread
i got so annoyed by the sheer amount of buff spells and the million different things they all can do that i just said fuck it and ran around without them. i'd chug my mutagen potion which lasted for hours because i was high level and it was all i pretty much needed for most of the game. during combat i'd use my mark of justice bot to cast mark of justice on whatever i wanted to beat up and maybe bless or something if i felt like it, then again i only played on normal difficulty
to the point that you require mods like Bubble Buffs.
Correction
I meant to say that you "don't" require mods like Bubble Buffs.
To live is to wallow in the excrement of reality.
Shitload of good ones. Also sorry I meant 1h, 10min, 1 turn, there's ways to make them 24h but they're not 24h by default.
there's about 70 different spells that are all some flavor of
enemy must make a str/wis/int/con/dex saving throw or is dazed/stunned/entranced/asleep/tripped/self fellating for one round! after which they must make another saving throw or suffer 10d4^50*0/2 damage which can be resisted by half of their current CHA modifier etc etc etc
stabbing niggas with my sword bypasses all gay nerdy shit
WotR is mostly dysfunctional retards which I thought made for more endearing companions, I pretty much only enjoyed having Amiri and Nok-Nok around in Kingmaker, the rest I thought felt too much like a stereotypical D&D party (probably the point of the campaign).
Do not attempt to romance the spider.
She has the most complex, branching romance routes, and potential for the most interesting and satisfying route, especially if you go NE-TN
but
It has many failure conditions, a very long list of very specific requirements, secret interactions you have to do perfectly and with only one chance, it's nearly impossible to do without a guide and the Toybox mod to unfuck event flags when they inevitably break because the game is held together by vodka and spit
reddit troon characters with seemingly a lot of build options, but most of them suck and you're better off just following some fag's guide unless you get baited. Just play Rogue Trader instead.
Starts off as a fun RPG
Fuck around and try stuff out
No idea what you're doing in combat, but hey it works
Act 3 begins
All your characters can't even hit the enemy and get completely erased by random encounters
Enjoy the game, but be prepared to look up a guide later on, or get turbo autistic with character builds and optimizing buffs and shit.
The game kinda expects you to do one of those.
Rogue Trader
That game has exactly 4 good characters
Walked so WOTR could run. WoTR has ton of gameplay refinements even if you don't care for the story.
Kingmaker is a more grounded fantasy adventure however, but it still sucks in some ways like playing into certain alignments (almost all lawful choices are more really lawful evil), some gameplay is rough, and that final part of the game is absolutely attrocious to most people.
So four more than WOTR?
Jank and shitty balancing. Otherwise a decent crpg. Install the toy box mod for qol stuff like no carry weight and instant rest after battles.
Chaotic Good
Azata
Pathetic...