game is required to have pricings next to everything
Is this a good or a bad thing for gaming?
game is required to have pricings next to everything
Is this a good or a bad thing for gaming?
Yes? How the fuck are you supposed to tell how much something costs?
singleplayer game is always online because they have to shove microtransactions down your throat
No? Why the fuck would you want to know how much you're wasting?
Calculating how much those shit costs, be it per primogems or per rolls, is basic math. Did you not go to school or something?
They should make it so that all gacha games are automatically rates AO and you need to show your ID to play them. Like gambling.
Software should be treated like a product where no extra charges can be made unless the added feature is material and the extra charge is capped at what the software is currently selling for or what is the going rate for video games in that category. So you can't charge for one skin $20 because it's not material but you can charge anywhere from 0 to the game's full price for a story DLC because it's material. You can still charge $20 for a skin pack in say the Sims because that would be considered material.
I wonder if this will increase or decrease sales.
Good, no more Judaism
genshin.hoyoverse.com
More like the game need your ID now if you're a "freedom"fag
It's a dark pattern, retard. Anyone can do basic arithmetic but it gets annoying very quickly so people stop doing that.
If you take pride in menial tasks like arithmetic then you peaked in middle school most likely.
Remember when we were all pissed off about horse armor and pay2win DLC?
It's a little funny how this is even necessary, as if it wasn't always obvious from Day 1 that top-ups were a total rip-off. What's funny is that I don't even think this would solve anything. "x0.3 U.P.: $2.64" means absolutely nothing to most people and probably only confuses people further.
that's worse than gacha since gachas are f2p
$100 to get 2/3rds the way of losing a 50/50
Do retards really? Take half of that and just buy a proper game like Expedition 33.
some shitty cosmetic vs actual gameplay content
a one-time payment that you can keep forever (and probably pay nothing anyway, since the DLC is easy as shit to pirate) is worse than gacha
Man, you retards are hooked BADLY. Oink for us.
How is age verification gonna work anyway
horse armor is shitty cosmetics and f2p games have immense amounts of gameplay content. you don't have to pay anything to play them and they all give you free currency
you guys are absolutely fucking brain rotten
It's neat
Was fine with expansion packs/map packs. Fuck all of you.
Generally, the only thing that you can legally do is have people verify their ages and take them at their word that they're telling the truth. Anything more is an invasion of privacy. Remember, it's illegal for something on the internet to demand minors for proof of personal information of any sort.
or you can just pay for something with all the gameplay intact without having to rely on luck.
nobody is rolling every character gacha games f2p, especially the most popular ones.
Gachas have time-gated economies directly tied to the cash shop. Every aspect of the game is intertwined with your wallet. The gameplay is carefully balanced to make sure that you plateau on progress eventually and have to shell out to keep the pace up. Then there's the timed exclusive banners where you most likely won't be given enough free resources to pull the unique thing they're offering. You could spend hundreds of dollars on resources and still only MAYBE do you get the thing you wanted. At least with horse armor they actually gave you the fucking DLC and didn't make you run your card seven times because "sorry, you didn't get it that time!~ Here's your 2,000 septims consolation".
People are too lazy to do it themselves.
Same as Steam. You input your date of birth and they "hope you don't lie". Porn sites are less invasive with their "click yes if you are over 18+".
Holy shit! 6480 genesis christals for only $99.99! What a generous offer!
anime girl pngs now cost more than video game consoles
Gacha is the most heinous thing ever imagined in this industry, and the people who play them are genuinely sick in the head.
They should make it so that all gacha games are automatically rates AO
I see what you're doing there anon you perv.
It's not so much the gameplay balance as it is missing out on meta-relevant characters if you're new to the game/haven't played in a long time. At that point, it's impossible to catch up unless you just buy an account
top ups have always been whale bait, your supposed to play the game for free rolls and at most grab the welkin for $5 or maybe the battle pass for $10.
welkin is 300 genesis crystals and 2700 primogems for $5 but requires you to log in once per day for the 30 day period to claim all of it.
like i give a shit about your fucking crystals bro!!!
I don't really feel that bad about the fact that these games nickel-and-dime rich idiots who end up paying for the greater bulk of the costs. They pay, I play. I know a lot of people feel like it's just the principle of the thing, but I feel no sympathy so I don't care.
I was never fine with this stuff unless they were sequel worthy or included the base game.
or you can just pay
good goyim
Gachas have time-gated economies directly tied to the cash shop. Every aspect of the game is intertwined with your wallet.
You do not have to pay. Stop being autistic and there's no problem.
Chinese company wants US citizen's personal info
sounds like a good way to get dragged back into court
i was just trying to put in perspective that even within the game itself top ups are just that much of a scam.
if your just doing rolls the welkin can be considered 3000 while the $99 top up is 8080 meaning welkin gets you the same "value" as the $99 pack for about $13.47
With the amount of money these whales put up they at least deserve to see their waifus naked. It's criminal that they cock-tease this much for such outrageous prices. Though if we're going with that logic, these devs also owe their customers a top-tier PC or equivalent console, 8k graphics, and thousands of hours worth of unique non-grind content. How much they siphon out of people for this Cookie Clicker gameplay is disgusting.
The US specifically required them to harvest your info.
Thanks, Trump!
this has nothing to do with trump
or you can just pirate everything unlike gacha, which relies on "goyim" paying so it remains free.
Neutral I guess. Nothing was really stopping you from doing the math yourself and the people who actually buy lots of these things don't really give a shit about how much it cost, so is not like this change is actually helping anyone, but is not affecting anyone negatively either.
In truth, we were fucked as soon as MapleStory's Cash Shop took off.
immense amounts of gameplay content
That's not how you spell "linear auto-battler grind-a-thons".
I pirate and play gacha.
"linear auto-battler grind-a-thons".
you mean the entire JRPG genre isn't video games? damn...
It doesn't count unless they show that it costs $2.50 for a single pull of their retarded ass gacha
The curse of lots of disposable income and nothing to do with it.
I've never though about it like that kek. Just a vague "retards spent $200 for a character lmao"
just play for free it's just that easy
I don't think they're rich. I think they're working multiple jobs, can only afford their phone for entertainment, and don't have enough free time to play a video game for more than an hour. They got drawn in because it was free and they were desperate for entertainment. The skinnerbox feedback loop sunk it's teeth in and now they got into the cycle of "I'll spend $20-$40 every week on it, I get enough extra from my paycheck to cover that. I deserve to reward myself". Then they gotta get extra for the banners and the events...
western journos popularized the idea that oblivion did it first when it was all thanks to nexon
nexon had children across the world renting monthly cosmetics in maplestory years before the concept of mtx even hit north america
Are you seriously asking if it's a good or bad thing to have companies tell you how much their in-game currency is actually WORTH as in-game currency?
When I stop and think about it, it's kind of fucked up. All these cute fanarts and cosplays but we all know the whole hook of these is that 1% of players will destroy their lives bleeding money over it. It's like a big swimming pool everyone loves but it only stays open because once a day someone drowns.
this is kind of tacky, it was better when it was nebulous lmao
Most gamblers aren't rich. Most gamblers are using it to chase a high or as some extremely ironic get-rich-quick scheme. The highest spenders are usually the ones most preyed upon, or otherwise taken advantage of. Video games used to soothe and entertain, now they exploit and destroy.
zoomer doesnt remember thanks obama
If they're rich enough to whale all of their characters to C6E5 while still having enough to pay for living costs then they're richer than I am.
I love your analogy and it made me unironically lol but 99% of whales aren't drowning, they just have a lot of money they can waste. Think of a forever alone salesman in Japan. He makes enough money to live but has nothing to spend it on and no one that cares about him. So he just spends it on media. Whether he buys toys, games, luxury food, buys prostitutes, or gacha waifus isn't relevant. People are going to spend money on random crap.
You can make the argument some people do make mistakes with gacha but it's not like gacha is the sole cause of behaviors like that.
treating your friends at the bar
marrying some evil bitch
having one of the dozens of more expensive hobbies
hindsight is 20/20 but looking back on it I at least didn't have to spend for a CHANCE to get the thing I wanted I could just get it 100% guaranteed now if I spend money they won't even guarantee I'll get it.
So glad I never got addicted to gacha.
having one of the dozens of more expensive hobbies
i know this one, i've been super tempted to start buying pinball machines but it is a bit much to stomach spending $9,700 for a new one.
it's literally free to play them, they give you that stuff just for having fun
yeah that's crazy. most whales for gachas don't spend that much over the course of an entire game. gigawhales do though, like more than that a year
youre somewhat correct. But gamblers dont actually care about winning or losing suprisingly. They did some studies where they looked at the brains of gamblers as they won or lost money and brain activity remained pretty much the same with minor peaks for wins. The main thing that set them apart from non-gambling addicts was they had consistant brain activity that was higher than non-gamblers but only when gambling. So long as they are gambling that's all they care about
cheaper new machines typically start around $7,000, they are intended to be passive money makers and should pay for themselves in 6 months to a year unless you live in some crazy busy or dead location.
for genshin at least, there's no gambling since there is a set price to max characters out
you will always pay less than that set price too
I genuinely don't get the appeal of gacha
they are intended to be passive money makers and should pay for themselves in 6 months to a year
I thought you just meant for your own home lol. I had a friend who had a setup that they put all kinds of emulators onto. I was young then so I don't think I asked about the price though.
People who are seriously committed to gacha need more respect. I spend $36,000 a month on purchases for the 50 gachas I paly and what do I get from the anonymous NEETs on here? Mockery. Absolutely disgusting.
the better ones have actual games attached to them that whales pay for on your behalf and eventually turn into crazy mega-games, i think Genshin alone has over a billion dollars put into the game itself, this is just a fraction it brought in but is a shocking amount.
The games themselves are unique video games. Gacha is just a fun aspect about it.
Like the PS1 FF games, people liked them and they also liked the minigames they stuffed into them.
People like x gacha and the gacha mechanics. And they have minigames too. Multiple avenues of fun, that's why they're popular.
Is Genshin even playable if youre like dirt poor and barley do any pulls and just wanna play a free game that others paid for?
yes
Seems like the budget is 900m so far, if they weren't lying. They said it was 100m initially and then they were going to spend 200m on it every future year and I believe it since the world has gotten so much bigger since it came out, and they somehow keep on schedule with updates which is genuinely insane to me.
theyre very light games that are lab engineered to be as addictive as possible. This doesnt come from the gacha, no the addictive properties come from artificially induced sunk cost and fomo. Things are time gated so you get sunk cost asap, stretching a day's worth of gameplay over like a month through stamina systems. When you hit the arbitrary gacha material wall you will have hopefully spent enough time that you stick around to see the arbitrary stat check wall as a challenge to be overcome, and you attribute the several month's worth of wasted time doing busy work as a time investment.
When that happens and you dont drop is when the gacha has got you, because then you are more likely to spend money on the gacha and upgrade materials. And when a gacha character you like comes around you dont want to be caught with your pants down and no materials or rolls do you? So pay up and catch up to day 1 players (they were playing the longest and thus least affected by the timegating).
By the time you realize how much time you wasted and how little fun you are having is when you notice the deception.
the game is actually quite easy outside of the spiral abyss and imaginarium theater but that only earns you a few extra rolls each month.
general play of the game earns you enough to get several 5* by the time you get caught up to the current content, the 4* especially the 1.0 ones are pretty good and you are given several 4* just by playing the game.
really the only bad character is Amber but she is still useful for some exploration puzzles and setting things on fire until you get something better.
It's definitely playable and you can clear every new story content with free characters, but it will be nowhere nearly as fun as if you had any of the gacha characters. Most people would die of boredom
you get free pulls anyway
eh, it isn't that dire. Sucrose swirl with other element 4* is pretty fun until you get enough free rolls together to get your first 5*
People spend hundreds to thousands on furry porn commissions. If you have a job and only play video games, your money isn't going anywhere.
I wonder how many pulls newfags get just catching up. Probably a couple hundred lol
easily, if you did all the exploration you could probably have several 5* from it but that would take dozens if not hundreds of hours.
It's roughly 400 I think.
Isn’t it like 500-600 now? I think it was 400 during Fontaine.
maybe
By using math? Though to be fair it's for America only so I guess it makes sense.
character in the game can cost you from 1$ to $470+ in the game
is this the so called superior gacha games I've heard on this board? jersus fucking christ, I can buy several classic games with $470
Agree, but they should also make games like csgo, fortnite and even fifa 18+. Honestly, any game with even the smallest gambling mechanic should be adults only.
lmao holy shit
The truth is that gachas are just the alternative to having a GF/wife. You'll spend just as much on your jpegs of women as you would on 3DPD.
The FTC is forcing them to do it so not really. Which is funny because they hate the Chinese but they are also forcing them to harvest your data.
One is paid and the other is free. How is that so hard to understand?
you don't have to spend anything
i have a wife, she definitely costs me more than genshin, my wife is a grim reaper of cars and the most recent one i bought her was about $7,000 after putting new tires on it, she has already got some small damage on the rear bumper and has only had it for 7 months.
gachas are just the alternative to having a GF/wife
that would be driving an used car.
I would rather have 6c5r kokomi than a gf like that
I wouldn't be surprised if the US government starts acting like the Chinese were some years back. Where they just keep putting all the these rules that they simply can't comply with and are forced to "partner" up with a native company
I play genshin and wuwa with my wife though
Does she dress up as Klee?
bruh
i've been with her for 13 years and married for 8, i got a son out of it.
she has killed quite a handful of cars during this time, freeze plugs falling out of block and drove it until it stalled, let friend drive and they put it on a boulder, dropped a cylinder, all sorts of shit.
i got a C6R1 Xilonen using welkin/bp and playing the game to death, not worth going past c4 but it is kinda fun playing her sorta like a Geo Varesa with Xianyun.
No but I did buy her this dodoco beret
Extrasensorial reminder
this is because of european regulations right?
VA controversy
age verification
prices next to items
the game has really lost its suspension of disbelief
No. The FTC was just strapped for cash and decided to scam Mihoyo specifically.
nope this is all ameriGODS
this was before third worlders became the biggest market.
well europe passed a law for all games to have this like months ago I think
based
who cares
who cares
tbqh
people don't even seem to care about 6.x being a bit non-standard, in fact I feel like most people are hyped for that lol
Cool now make all the other gacha games follow suit including shit like EA sports games. Would love to see those infinite money for fifa since there isn’t any kind of cap/pity to get anything.
Well this is only on US accounts right now apparently.
gimped every language because of NA Unions throwing a shitfit
As if there wasn't enough ammo against English dubs, fuck this VA Union
how can you seriously defend gatcha if you have an iq over 80
honestly
The funniest is still Paimon’s VA screeching shitting on scabs while scabbing herself because “she has bills to pay”.
It's pretty funny how nobody online ever even mentions the gambling in fifa or whatever because those games are exclusively played by the most normal of normalfags
retards spending money on these pngs
when they can just buy anime figures of gacha characters and actually have something
gacha is fun bro, you're tthe low IQ if you can't understand that
its only applied on american accounts.
commission.europa.eu
here it is. Good read. It forces game companies to also not have weird odd game currency prices. You will have the option to buy for example in genshin, the skins for money directly. Also the thing with OP pic.
funny how some pixels have more of a use than physical objects
I have a relative in Spain that regularly drops thousands for the FIFA games but will shit non stop on gacha games. It’s honestly funny to me that he doesn’t see the hypocrisy because one is sports and the other is “anime”.
tfw don't spend on gachi rolls but am drowning in nendoroids
Now I can manhandle Kazusa in real life
Menawhile you have games like Destiny 2 actively removing content people initially paid for.
Figures that degrade, require upkeep, space and are more out in the open for people to look at
What are you going to do with a figure, shove it up your own ass and/or put it in a jar? At least, in theory the gacha has some kind of """"""gameplay"""""" where you can see them jiggle around or pretend to care about you.
The six week update schedule remains the biggest mystery to me. Except for one time during peak covid quarantines that pushed a patch schedule to hold for an extra few weeks they’ve kept that since release.
you are now told exactly how much money you're wasting on PNGs in your slot machine game
this is somehow an outrageous act according to gachatards
i think she's the winner of this whole shitty situation but honestly i havent kept an eye on the VA drama lately.
What happened with best girl's VA studio? (pic related)
Literally no one is saying that? The overwhelming opinion is that it needs to be applied to every game though, not just Genshin / Hoyo stuff because China Bad.
can someone from the US show pic of the skins store in genshin?
literally no one is getting outraged in the thread and if there is, you are free to point out
No it's fine, Genshitters are just a special breed of insane fanatical zealot that should never be listened to seriously.
Compared to a gacha where the game will hit End of Service eventually, meaning all of the money you spent will now have no proof of investment as your JPEGs and Live2D boobs disappear into the abyss?
Posting this here ahead of time.
Nothing. Pretty sure they are all still working.
did Furina VA open a VA studio or some shit?
I have figs from cancelled series, EoS'd/rebooted gacha and MMOs, and I wouldn't trade them for a few rolls.
collect loli figurines
police/FBI/neighborhood watch is called on you
go to prison while your figurines are melted down to make funko pops
Amber Lee has had a studio for ages. Think it’s been around for like 10 years?
I wouldn't get either because they both seem like meaningless crap to me. I just think that digital figurines have less upkeep.
she has been working with some VAs in genshin and trying to get other VAs from the other company on strike into hers.
Didn't know there were loli gacha eroge outside Japan. What if he likes big tiddies?
more info and more transparency are better for the consumer
they already know what this shit costs, so not telling me the math they've already done up front is clearly just them trying to hide shit
She's doing fine other than that ZZZ VA attempting to throw her studio under the bus. It backfired on him pretty hard.
It's also pretty fucking funny that she voiced Android 18 in DBZ Abridged, and managed to have a VA career and studio, whereas KaiserNeko and LittleKuriboh currently have their tongue firmly lodged in SAG AFTRA's ass and are sucking up to the union aa hard as they can. I guess that post-DBZA blacklist really did a number on them.
I think that's reasonable, you probably have a more fulfilling life and friends. I have figures and my fellow autists I met because of gachashit, one of them was wearing a BA armband and we instantly became friends. So I like my figures. Digital ones die unless the dev is nice and does something like Pokemon Duel or Merc Storia did.
A divorce for $600 furina please.
The problem is you somehow got dupped into buying a worse NFT.
Got my self Escoffier in my first 10. And got Navia's weapon by chance without having her. Thanks
I got Navia's weapon too but I had her. I really didn't want it since I had a WGS already but oh well. She's stronger now than I thought she would be though so that's good I guess.
Aether(canon mc) is so lucky
Yes. Then I can finally get some titties in my gacha
Man, you guys weren't kidding when you said Escoffier was made for Furina. Only issue is that her healing is a bit on the weak side and can't fully keep up with Furina's HP drain, but other than that they're a match made in heaven.
letting normalniggers see your inventory instead of having a hiding spot for whenever you're expecting company
being a fucking idiot and making purchases that are inherently risky in the first place
Realistically unless he lives in Britain there's nothing wrong with owning something like a Grim Aloe figure as long as it's not a cast-off and even then it's just social death not legal death.
I'll probably use yelan more than furina with her
Actually I didn't pay for that image of Gaston.
having a hiding spot for whenever you're expecting company
Truly you have life figured out
The funniest part is that a full pull in whatever gacha often costs like 30 euro-bucks. Even Wizards of the Coast with their greedy pack policy somehow manages to be a lot more consumer friendly and that's saying something. If you take tcg booster packs as basis and factor in that you're only getting something digital, then most gachas are overpriced by a factor of 10 if you ask me.
You're not directly guaranteed to get a certain card when buying enough cardpacks though
It's a good thing
how the fuck
by doing math you drooling ass nigger
I get it. You got it after doing you dailies shitposting.
The trick is that nearly all gacha also give free currency. How generous a game is varies game to game, but some games can be played entirely f2p. The majority of gacha don't have much in the way of PvP elements either, so there isn't a large meta incentive to max out a character aside from waifufaggotry. This is the secret behind why gacha are able to get away with practices that TCGs can't.
TCG gacha like Yugioh and Pokemon also have a bunch of little tricks even moreso than traditional gacha. In the case of TCG gacha, the trick isn't nickel and diming normal players who are just there for the PvP. In fact, most reasonable TCG gacha don't require any money at all to build a perfectly meta main deck and a few pet decks. No, what's really gonna hurt your wallet is if you're a collector, a completionist. TCG gacha typically have recycling elements, but this is explicitly designed to only benefit pure PvP players. It doesn't benefit collectors nearly as much, and having a perfect collection is definitely gonna cost you a pretty penny.
Good but not remotely sufficient. Companies will still hide costs behind RNG. What they need to be forced to do is pre-calculate the EV of all the things you can roll for and tell you that. When people know that rolling your stupid gacha waifu is on average going to cost you 1200 dollars they will realize it's not worth it.
No, but I can just buy it from the guy who did get the card. Which, for new cards, is still cheaper than what gacha try to sell me almost all the time.
I tried a few gacha, but only two stuck with me cause 1) they're pretty f2p friendly and 2) don't require me to play that much to keep up.
Depends on the TCG actually. Some actually do guarantee at least 1 of each card in the set if you buy something like a case of sealed packs. Obviously doesn't apply to MtG, YGO, or PTCG, but not as unusual as you'd expect.
I like genshin gameplay and story but the leveling up is pretty ass, trying to get those new characters to match leves with the rest of my party takes forever, trying to level the adventurer rank up so i can fucking play the game is slow as fuck too.
Yes, the approval process to download that image was very time consuming.
Yeah that happens at the beginning of all gacha. But you can argue that's just kinda standard practice for video games in general. The hard part is always frontloaded.
Yeah, I used to play it before getting a job, and was doing fine. As for paying, most people pay 5$ a month anyway, no more.
Even now, i barely use all my characters. It's either Navia, Mavuika or Arleccino as DPS and 3 slots usually the same, Furina, Raiden, Xilonen. Sometimes I use Nahida with Clorinde
I always said 1-2 BPs at the start is worth it just to avoid doing ley lines. I've never had to do them.
Other gachas I play like im@s, don't have this problem.
Even war thunder which is crazy nightmare to grind is more friendly than genshin.
Gachatrannies got to be the shabbos of goyim.
That's cute.
Even war thunder
No way, not even close lol, war thunder grind is pretty bad.
That said, collecting flowers for 3 days in genchink is annoying as hell
Good.
You are welcome.
There's a bit of a difference between action-driven games like Genshin compared to stuff like Idolm@ster. Fundementally, these games are all modeled after JRPGs, and few JRPGs let you max out a character within the first few minutes of playing.
be Amber Lee
work in abridging characters
now turned professional
people like LittleKuriboh and KaiserNeko who did the same thing are blacklisted by VA union
yet they still tongue VA union assholes
also owns her own VA studio, with AI protection and healthcare
moved most of Genshin VAs to her studio because their former studio was scamming their money
her VAs are non-union workers, but with union-like benefits
She wonned.
I think what might have saved her from her fate is that unlike those guys, she didn't really flaunt her role in DBZA, nor did she try to leverage it to get roles. The DBZA guys probably shouldn't have accepted cameo roles for DBZ games. That almost certainly hurt them the most.
I never understood why people whined about levelling in genshin for this reason. It's fucking easy as hell to do it here compared to most JRPGs.
they literally did that BUT
only genshin
USA hates genshin LOL
meanwhile minors can decide to be trannies
Well, I won't say there are no issues. There are two big ones. The first is the sheer number of available characters, the second is the RNG. If you level a certain character only to roll someone completely better, it feels like you've wasted your resources. This sort of thing hurts more at the beginning. Mora in particular is a pain at that point.
The DBZA guys probably shouldn't have accepted cameo roles for DBZ games. That almost certainly hurt them the most
How does that work?
It pissed off the wrong people. The entire reason for the blacklist is due to petty bullshit like that. Ironically, the very thing they're putting their reputations on the line to blindly support is what killed their careers.
Absolutely diabolical levels of sex. My dick gained a will of its own and started clicking for me.
Mora in particular is a pain at that point.
I have over 100 million mora...
Nta but how does that make sense? Fanboys are so fucking sensitive these days
when they can just buy anime figures of gacha characters and actually have something
That would be true in the case of a gacha like Azur Lane, they get like 500 new figures every other day.
Mihoyo hates money, or rather already has enough and at best one figure of some random character gets released every year. And it is like they pick at random who gets a figure, it is not even of the popular ones
is coof's skill range/uptime good? how much comfier is she compared to other off-field cryo appliers?
AI exists, I should buy a 3d print machine
Basically, some important people were angry that these Youtube parody guys were able to leverage their Youtube reputations to get roles. It's not really the fans' fault they got blacklisted. The VA industry has been an exclusive club for a while now.
Is she good? Gonna probably roll both her and her weapon, since Navia's weapon would be nice too, despite me having enough options.
Mihoyo do have official figures, but only for select few characters and are limited. Also, only some of them are on their official western store on Amazon.
I wish each character got 2 official figures. But that would be 200+ figures.
Any cash shop with paid microtransactions should be required to have all the real money prices listed for everything and they should ban underage kids from giving them any money
They need to do this to EA sports games and League of Legends, which are probably way more harmful in the US than genshin.
Not going to happen because of lobbying though. Very weird to target genshin impact and nothing else.
coz they are chinks, what Poo Looong gon do?
the range seems huge and uptime is 20s with a 15s cd
I'll make a webm of the range
Pretty good but basically essential for Skirk
I was planning on pulling her and Skirk, but didn't renew my monthly sub, because not sure if I'm feeling the game. I have like 102 pulls and close to pity.
Any new region always gets me excited and I grind the game for X.0 X.1, but after that it kind of all dwindles for me.
Hoyo is generous with their pricings fuck off poorfag
Keep slurping that rice dick you fat nigger
Hoyo is generous with their pricings fuck off poorfag
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green is my text
pricings? no
they're generous with their free gibs
is there anything more pathetic than playing gacha games f2p?
at least people who pay are treated well by the game
spending money on gacha
Is her weapon good btw? It's a buffer weapon right?
66% cdmg and some atk stat stick and it gives a small atk buff to your on-field character for a few seconds while escoffier heals her. It's not a great buffing weapon
So she is subdps? I'm going in blind, so idk what she even does other that she is supposedly important for Skirk
sub dps that shreds hydro/cryo in hydro/cryo teams. burst does dmg and heals
for skirk she's important for the res shred since skirk also wants to be in a hydro/cryo only team, so there's no other shredder
but Kazugod shreds too. Anyway...so her weapon isn't that good?
So what's a good weapon for her?
bro your reading....
Kazuha's Anemo. She wants to be in a team with ONLY Hydro and Cryo, nothing else.
Just say your poor lol
Finally people are talking about the game. Only took 100 posts. Janny kept nuking the real threads, so I had to disguise it.
Genshin or WuWa?
Oh, but why is that? She gets some buffs just because of that?
If you are starting I'd say wuwa
When there are 1/2/3/4 Hydro or Cryo characters in the party, Escoffier will decrease the Hydro RES And Cryo RES of any opponents hit by her Elemental Skill or Burst by 5%/10%/15%/55% for 12s.
While there's a small benefit for using just three Hydros/Cryos, the buff for the fourth is over 3x that of just three.
Which of these former MYSTERY NIGGAS is your fav?
It's compounded by Skirk's kit as well
homdgcat.wiki
I'm thinking of buying a BP for a deathmatch R1. I have nothing useful other than favs and Iansan's event weapon which are being used by other characters. I also have 18 copies of FUCKING dragon's bane which are useless because frozen doesn't use EM.
Skirk. I liked the succubus' quest but she felt weird in Natlan.
total ahoge snippage
I went for R1 because I also had zero polearms lol. I got R5 of that 4 star polearm too though which is dumb since now I'll never use it kek.
We're getting a really shitty HP scaling bow from the upcoming event too, should have been that atk polearm.
I see, I thought Skirk needed cryo/hydro specifically Kazuha shreds 40% though...and elem bonus I haven't used him in a while though
Oh, now I get itI guess
You don't even speak proper english
i spend part of my paycheck since i have so much money for genshin lol
if its so easy then its not such a big deal for the store do it too I guess
Which is not much. You already exposed yourself as a third worlder.
I feel bad for US players who are taking a break right now. Then again, 400 days is quite a lot of time for you to choose your birthday, or else your account will be deleted.
what do you mean 400 days
Another update
Noelle still murders everything in sight with disco cat, furina, and grannlali
Also the new girl reminds me of Pomu, my beloved
You will be locked out of your account on July 18th, 2025 if you don't choose your birthday.
Your account will be deleted on July 18th, 2026 if you don't choose your birthday.
I got c6 gorou this patch so I can do meme DEF teams now
If you don't choose your birthday
I wonder how many people it will filter that will think if they lie they will get SWATed like they think with piracy.
you're reading that wrong dude, if you don't do it by july you're fucked
what I don't get it is that for genshin only or for hoyo as a whole? are they going to delete my ZZZ account just because I tried genshin once in 2020?
C2 Xilonen is way too good to swap with my Gorou, who isn't even c6
But if she could trigger her ability with mono geo, i'd have Noelle, Gorou, Cat, and either Kachina or Yun Jin
Semen demon is still the best design out of the bunch
Oof...
Do we have any leaks of next characters?
I guess it's only Genshin, since they don't advertise ZZZ to "children", in-game friends and chats deletion alludes to that.
for real, Skirk is so meh, if mods didn't exist I'd probably drop this game few years ago lol
Is this only for PC players? Phones and consoles already have age verification, don't they? At least, I'm pretty sure I had to put my age into my Google account. It's been a while so I can't remember. Playstation and Xbox also have age verification built in, right?
That's pretty good, but I'd also like to see the average price listed.
Gold within twenty rolls
It was Mizuki
Well, I lost the coinflip but it happened pretty much instantly so I guess it's not as bad as it could have been. Only one copy of Ifa though. Still, now I don't know who to choose for the anniversary 5-star selector. Maybe C3 for Dehya?
It's kind of ironic that prices of real games keep going up and up and up while gacha games still have the same pricing model for premium currency. Even old ass ones that have been around for 7+ years haven't technically raised prices. They just make it more Pay 2 Win.
Soon the price to obtain one 5* in Genshin will be cheaper than AAA slop and hilariously more worth it.
doesn't genshin have one of the "better" rate systems? i heard fate gachas have no pity system so you could spend thousands and not get what you want
Genshin created the "low bar" standard for gacha rates.
Sub 1% chances per pull
Pity system at 90 (soft pity starts at 76, average is around there)
50/50 coinflip garbage
Seperate pulls for weapons (same pity)
Standard characters are never retired, you can still get Qiqi in 2025. They've added, what, three new 5* to the standard pool in 5 years?
Everything is going up because they want to earn as much as gacha game devs, they make millions a month for years and years with very little effort. Regular devs refuse to lower their standards by making gacha so have been trying to think of other ways to gouge players wallets and price hiking games/consoles/accessories is now their plan and they're using a controversial american leader as their scapegoat to trick consumers into thinking it's someone else's fault and that the regular game/console devs are to blame
Genshin created the "low bar" standard for gacha rates.
could have sworn the low bar was 300 pulls for pity, and none at all before that
needs fixing
man, content creators really mindfucked you zoomers into thinking hoyo created everything bad in gacha
I'd imagine there's two reasons. The first is that the pricing model for purely digital services have always been arbitrary. There's no particular reason why a single roll has to be like $3 other than that's just the maximum amount of money companies think they can get away with.
The other reason is that consumers do have some degree of awareness of this, so changing the price of rolls isn't gonna go over well and companies know that. In general, the price of rolls can't go up because consumers the current prices are more or less at the very limit of what they're willing to pay.
I remember in the first few months genshin updated the regional prices for russia, brazil and other shitholes and that caused a bit of a controversy
Additionally, a business kept afloat almost entirely by a handful of whales isn't gonna benefit by raising the overall prices. The downside to being so reliant on a relatively smaller number of people is that companies can't actually afford to completely bankrupt those retards. And raising the prices of rolls is only gonna make f2ps even LESS interested in paying.
FUCK nexon
probably a good thing because the average phonezoomer can't divide 10 by 5 much less calculate how many pulls those packs are worth
Russia
pretty sure it was always the way it is now, but it's funny how I'm supposed to pay more than $5/$10, I'd VPN up if not for jews at VISA/MC.
Just found hoyolab post from 2020, where the guy says BP is 900 roubles, still is.
roll coofer
between 2 and 400 dollars created by walking around looking at jingling keys and pressing E
The funny irony of Trump's ridiculous trade war is that it's only gonna make gachas even stronger. While the prices of foreign games are gonna rise up, the price of gacha rolls are probably gonna stay relatively stable, on top of being free to play.
battlepass was 700 putins
they should do it for porn sites too, I'm tired of having to calculate myself how much these "credits" cost and how much video time 20 bucks would give me
Gacha games should be outlawed
unironic libcuck posting
based
How do you know what the cost is if it is not displayed!? Primogens are not a legal form of currency…
How about being required to pander only to straight male players and not pump out endless homoflops
Gayshit fagpact died years ago with sumeru
Good. Fuck gacha
It's stated right there, "$0.99 for 60 crystals". What was added in today's update was the "x03 - U.P.: $2.64" part. It's redundant information to convey the exact same thing: This shit's obscenely overpriced and you'd have to be a retard t obuy it. A hundred bucks for fifty rolls? Are you fucking insane? It was bad then and it's bad now. This is why only unhinged retards buy top-ups.
The chess boss was really cool.
costs literally nothing to implement
they can't accuse you of stealing from ameritards
you use that currency for skins too by the way