How is this better than Rebirth? It just looks like a generic turn-based Elden Ring. In fact...

How is this better than Rebirth? It just looks like a generic turn-based Elden Ring. In fact, it's not even a true turn-based game, since the battles depend entirely on your ability to dodge and parry attacks.

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not even a true turn-based

And that is a good thing.

It just looks like a generic turn-based Elden Ring.

It doens't

it's not even a true turn-based game, since the battles depend entirely on your ability to dodge and parry attacks.

You execute attacks and parries on different turns, also you still need to strategize like any other turn-based game to achieve the most efficient way to deal damage.

how is this better than Rebirth?

lists all the reasons its better

truly a conundrum

How is this better than Rebirth?

it's not 90% minigames for starters, and it stomps nu-ff7's combat hard.

In fact, it's not even a true turn-based game

and that's a good thing
i despise JRPGs and I love this game. all it took is to include some mechanical skill in the combats to not bore me to death

Playing through Crimson Forest

Have to wait 15 minutes between turns watching this faggy fucking Obscur enemies wind up their attacks longer then an Elden ring boss.

This area was cancer even if it wasnt particularly difficult.

and ff7reddit is another ff7 compilation that adds nothing and censorship everything.
Just watch any major scene in ff7og and ff7plebbit. Cosmo Canyon scene is fucking gay in 'remake'.

Game is like 10 hours, rebirth is more than 70 hours.

Both are worse games than Metaphor.

Rebirth is one of the most god awful RPGs I've ever played, so it's quite easy to be better.

How is this better than Rebirth?

All the shitty bloat was cut out.

Game is like 10 hours

fucking how nigger, it's 20 if you rush it

Why are FFVII fags so insecure?

Having never played either one, I will play the game with the most beautiful and sexy women. So which is it?

Why do E33 niggers never show gameplay?

I will play Rebirth, but not this Chinese slop.

Anon, its just turn based fags.
They are so devoid of love and attention that they think anything turn based is good.
Exp33 is good, yes, but not better than rebirth.

full story that gets to the point with proper pacing

isn't filled to the brim with enforced minigames

amazing ost filled with new music

fun gameplay that does its own take on turn based instead of dropping it

By all accounts, it's better than rebirth

Oh look, FFcultists seething again.

Lol what

Im at 30 hours and im maybe at half

Are u playing on journalist difficulty and skipping everything?

Why would I play your zoomzoom Rebithslop when I have OG VII at home?

Shills, obviously.

More original world, interesting story, well-written characters, better music, art direction and actually fun gameplay. Rebirth has better mini-games but that's it pretty much, though it does have too many of them.

For one, it's not pozzed unlike Stillbirth.

full story that gets to the point with proper pacing

being just 1 game doesnt make it any good. Its just one game.
Also i dont know about you but the pacing is not any good. Some cutscenes really drag, the dungeons also drag, specially the axon ones (doesnt help that the places look really busy and confusing, and the combat starts to get stale)
And the 3rd act is also pacing killer since it reminds me of Alien Isolation. The game peaks and "ends" with killing the paintress. But it goes for too long.

isn't filled to the brim with enforced minigames

Not an argument. The battles are essentially minigames with all the reptitive dodges. The game also has the beaches minigames.

amazing ost filled with new music

Eh, i prefer rebirth music, its more focused on melody and energy, while exp33 is more ambient music, like elden ring. Gets stale after a while. There are some really good tunes though, but it reaches a point where you cany really "recognize" music.

fun gameplay that does its own take on turn based instead of dropping it

Its a hybrid. FF7 rebirth is also a hybrid, just the other side of the coin.

Overreliance on QTEs and real-time mechanics

Tight parry windows

Navigation and exploration issues

Clunky movement and controls

Visual clarity issues

Overly complex yet simplistic menus

Technical performance issues

Lack of completionist aids

Short main story for a JRPG

Narrative melodrama and pacing issues

Narrative melodrama

It's what Golden Age FF is all about you braindead zoomzoom larper.

Alien Isolation

That sounds cool
picked up

Its pretty good. Beware because it is a common criticism that the game drags for far too long since the pacing makes the game end like 3 times.

A gameplay section where you have to hide from enemies like in Alien: Isolation feels pretty cool... too long? 30 hours is really too short for a role-playing game, especially by modern standards set by Atlus and Square, where a game isn’t even considered a JRPG unless it lasts at least 100 hours.

The game peaks and "ends" with killing the paintress

Lol this nigga just wanted the japanese story of killing god with the power of friendship

My point with Exp33 is that the game feels like it already ended with beating the paintress. The game prepares you for it.
The 3rd felt like just an after thought. Maybe that was just me.

Lune > Tifa/Aerith, for starters.

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Well the story blows rebirth the absolutely fucking out of the water, just to start.

And no trite anime faces or tropes.

3rd act feels like world of ruin in ff6. You get access to the whole continent after everyone is wiped out in a cataclysm. You can go beat kefka whenever you like, or you can do tons of other completely optional dungeons or bosses that pop up. If you beat everything in the world first, you 1shot kefka. Love it.

That's Anon Babble in general
Nobody posts gameplay on Anon Babble because it's a lot of effort to clip your gameplay, scrub the audio, and convert it to a relatively tiny filesize just to put on an incredibly fast board that doesn't want to talk about video games.
But nonwhite thirdies like you will act like this is some slight against any game you don't like because you don't want to talk about video games, you want to engage in your pseudo-culture war against things that your fellow thirdies on twitter don't like.

looks like

yup, Anon Babble poster

why do ESL retards demand whites make mp4s for them? Because I am playing the game and don't give a shit about being your pretend streamer. Look up videos you retarded 54 IQ dimwit.

Well the story blows rebirth the absolutely fucking out of the water, just to start.

Rebirth has a story, E33 is just sensless melodrama

never played ff6, but now i am sold with alien isolation

FINAL FANTASY 9000000 vs clean and fresh kino

Rebirth has a story, E33 is just sensless melodrama

lol
lmao
he says this about a game that HAD a story and then adapted it and shit all over it into a incoherence mess
HAHAHA

why do gestrals talk like that? i hate them

In fact, it's not even a true turn-based game

Yep, its basically fromslop and watered down mario rpg for nomoids that hate everything anime and Japanese. Its why this game isnt popular in Japan and is only popular in the west. Sorta the typical fotm game like R.E.P.O etc where your group of normie friends who hate videos games but love ecelebs will shill the game to you.

Example A -

"BRO, EXPEDITION 33 IS FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
"Whys that?"
"ITS LIKE IF THEY COMBINED DARK SOULS AND PERSONA BUT GOT RID OF ALL THE WEIRD AND CREEPY JAPANESE STUFF"
"Oh I see, you must be enjoying it quite a bit since Japanese game are all highschool melodramas made for pedophiles right?"
"YEP, GLAD COMPANIES FINALLY CAUGHT ON THAT NORMAL PEOPLE THAT SHIT AND HONESTLY IT SHOULD BE BANNED"
"It is pretty weird desu, if only Japanese games were just western games, jrpgs really have to get with the times!"

362 HP

zero points in survivability 1 act in

based retard

does this game look better on pc/xbox or ps5pro?

People may not realize it but remake/rebirth/return and exp33 have very similar themes, told differently.
Much like the dream worlds in rebirth are used to connect with Cloud desires to see aerith and save her, and how the big decision boils down between submiting to sephiroth but seeing aerith again vs dealing with reality and accept aerith death, Exp33 also has a fake reality inside the canvas that people use to grief for not being able to accept verso death.

Yep, its basically fromslop

stopped reading there
Why do fucking Anon Babblebrowns NOT PLAY VIDEO GAMES and then come to the VIDEO GAME BOARD
GO BACK

Holy KEK

while exp33 is more ambient music

Did not play the game + seething that your pedophile simulators aren't mainstream + YWNBAJ + cope + ratio

samefag brownfag

Fuck you Nippon worshipping asswipe

because Verso made them when he was a kid

exp33 is more ambient music

lol
lol
lol

How is this better than Rebirth?

It's not a Ubisoft clone, so that's nice

Sorta the typical fotm game like R.E.P.O etc where your group of normie friends who hate videos games but love ecelebs will shill the game to you.

why do you think the game is fotm? its a good game, why shit on indie devs that care about the genre and even enjoy the japanese game you say its against?

You know what i mean. Music that sets the atmosphere pretty well but doesnt feel like "hum-able" music that sticks with you somehow. Doesnt feel like it has a structure or a loop. Elden ring is like this as well. There are some exceptions obviously. Lumiere is great. Clea boss fight theme stuck with me as well, the synth is great and how it builds up. Simon boss fight theme also was pretty good.

You forgot, hrt is taken every money honey.

It's a jrpg for people who dont actually like jrpgs. As you can tell from all the people crying about jrpgs having Japanese influence itt. Basically, Europeans are unable to enjoy something unless they make it themselves.

isn't verso the antagonist?

I don't know, I don't own a console. But I've heard that it can have some frame dips on console that can fuck up a battle since party windows are one third of Sekiro's, you need a stable framerate.
I run it on high on a 4070 and it runs well

One of my favorite games last year was Romancing SaGa 2 and one of my favorite games this year is Expedition 33

true turn-based game

"True turn based games" fucking suck in 2025.
Metaphor: Refantazio had "true turn based combat" and it fucking sucked.

Fucking 20+ year old JRPGs had more innovative combat than any JRPG that came out in the last 15 years.

Oh that's why they are retarded puppets?

Verso, the one you play, its a painted version of him. Its just aline cope, the equivalent of making a doll and say "now you will be my son!"
The real verso died in a fire trying to save Alicia, but his spirit was somewhat alive in his canvas, which Aline uses to keep his spirit alive

What mental disorder makes it impossible for people here to enjoy 2 things?

Metaphor had snoozefest gameplay.

parries are harded than sekiro's?

You would be surprised the amount of faggots on social media saying stuff like "i hate turn based games but exp33 is really good! play it!" or "finally a mature story, not like jrpgs!"

but verso betrayed the party, somehow

I pirated your euroslop though, this game reminds me of euroshmup's essentially a corpse of garbage strung together by 15 different influences, calling the game good story good because Renoir, Clea and Verso were right! is also a funny take as it shows you your experience with good writing is on the level of a preteen reading YA melodramas and wait for it........... sorta like the Japanese games this games community hates. I'm sorry you like a bad game, I like bad games too but I don't act like they are any good.

good thing I'm not the kind of retard who uses Twitter or whatever the fuck, like you

play it!" or "finally a mature story, not like jrpgs!"

literally all the youtubers that are playing exp33 right now

Painted verso. Imagine if they made an AI based on you, and that AI gained counciousness and said "im not anon, i want to just die, this shit is not real im not real". Thats what Verso did.

This one made the E33 niggers unhappy, it seems they don't like being called posers who hate jrpgs.

Rebirth was bad

I wouldn't waste your time. Most people here have no idea what makes a piece of music good and they don't even know enough about music to talk about it. No one will even dispute you with an example and argument they just post a meme and call you retarded like the replies demonstrate. It's all so tiresome.

*One third less
On Expert parry windows are 9 frames, Sekiro is 12 at 60fps

It looks like elden ring

Take that back!

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Its not, its just seething FF haters. 3 mil on ONE platform vs barely 2 million on 5

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Unironically half my friend group that played it, hates jrpgs and will literally shill me whatever is the new hype game on tiktok which is almost always fotm trash except the one time my friend actually recommended a good game he found browsing steam and not just some hivemind of shills online.

More like Europeans have taste and stanards. Not everybody like 0815 weeb slop.
Japan doesn't try these days. They barely innovate or try anything new. The just rehash the same formula, tropes and mechanics ad naseum.

so it's a fucking hard game

Basically, Europeans are unable to enjoy something unless they make it themselves.

Das rite.

Someone post the webm of the one tranny tuber that is hyping E33 like it saved jrpgs as a genre from Japan's evil hands. I will go find it in 5 minutes if no one has it, this guy only posts about western games btw.

The Simon dialogue felt so hamfisted and out of place. I get that it's supposed to be an homage but it feels more like cheap pastiche. Still the coolest boss, behind painted renoire.

More like Europeans have taste and stanards

You guys have standards so low you let jeets into all your countries to poop on the streets. No way a eurocuck is saying this lol.

I wasnt even shitting on the music. The music, like elden ring, is REALLY good at setting the atmosphere. I still remember the EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE in exploring the underground section in elden ring. Or the catacombs music. Same goes for exp 33. But i just feel it isnt distinct enough for me to remember after the battle or section and say "damn, that was good, what it is called? let me check it on youtube". Lumiere is an exception, i listen to it and hum it pretty much daily these days.

As an EuroGOD I enjoyed E33 as much as I enjoyed Unicorn Overlord or Metaphor.

I know, and your assessment was pretty spot on if only lacking some more appropriate terms to stress your points. I've tried making similar points while everyone is blinding praising the soundtrack and I just get the aforementioned replies.

Personally I think the issue with this games discourse is its a 8/10 game being treated as a 10/10 game and many people that dont play jrpgs are playing it so many jrpg fans are then saying its shit to counter the overhype and glazing.

Attack strings get pretty insane too, 5+ attack strings with different delays and different buttons each, fuckers will throw a mandatory jump or dodge in the middle, and if you fuck up ONE parry in a string you don't get to counterattack.
You break the game if you can consistently parry but you earn it

Uhm...

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It reminds me of metaphors discourse but with a little more overhype and some anti-japan rhetoric thrown in.

good game comes out

people like it

Anon Babble posters insist all games ever made are dogshit

the mental dissonance drives them insane

endless shitposting

that's the long and the short of it

Its a 7/10 objectively, anything below it is wrong and anything above it is wrong, its a complete 7/10.

that's just gimmick fromsoftware slop

thats exactly whats happening, anon.
The same happened with metaphor

You just described soulslikes anon

The metaphor discourse was 1 to 1 almost, the hype for this game will die in 2-3 months and then you will see more normal level takes that aren't pure fanboy shilling or calling the game the worst thing ever made.

Astroturf samefag shills baiting for reactions

It's actually a rhythm game

I didn't know that Jrpg's are known for being parry/dodge based qte rhythm games, pretty cool.

The discussion for this game is exhausting, its non stop posts of western fans saying its the greatest thing since sliced bread. I get it you like the game a lot but this amount of shilling seems really forced.

it's just a baffling comparison to make. The soundtrack is almost all very melody-focused and deliberately structured. The only reason it doesn't get stuck in your head is that every zone has like three exploration themes and two battle themes so you're not hearing two songs on a loop for the entire game like Persona 5 or whatever

I'm more exhausted by the constant shitposts from people who very obviously haven't played the game trying to denigrate it in increasingly retarded ways

Anon this board has literal paid shills to sit here all day and push hugbox positivity about the game and discord tranny raids also shilling.

It is true euroslop fashion, copy and destroy never create anything new or good.

the battles depend entirely on your ability to dodge and parry attacks

Casuals gonna casual, your party is overpowered 90% of the game.

This game is fromslop and casualslop at the same time, its literally completely on rails. Actual baby game kek.

It's funny because each individual components of the game are nothing special and often undercooked but everything is very coherent and serves to reinforce the game's themes and story which is let's be honest is the main draw. I wonder if it would work as a VN/Life is Strange style story game.

I still think it's a miracle this game came out as good as it did, this is a once in a decade type of release.

nigger this game is a rehash of the same exact formula you are complaining about. the devs said they played through Persona 5 to know what kind of game they want to make. it's a generic turn-based JRPG that copies all the basic mechanical and narrative tropes of the genre. are all 33 fans as retarded as (You)? did you ever played any of the "weeb slop" you are complaining about?

No they haven't because what they praise about this game has existed in jrpg's for decades which the devs literally based it on. Normoid magnet game, true babys first jrpg style game.

E33 fans hate all anime and Japanese tropes

I checked normalfag places for discussing vidya and it has been extremely blackpilled so many people proudly declaring that they played on Story difficulty, this game's success has nothing to do with the gameplay, normies love it because of the story and themes.

Normies like western YA novels made for tweens, more news at eleven.

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Should I call it trash? Vomit? Dogshit? Eurocuckgame? What would be a fitting name for it anon?

Game is slightly above average in its own genre but somehow breaks through to mainstream.

An alright game is now heralded as the second coming of christ by normalfaggots because "Dude even I enjoyed it"

A tale as old as time.

I do agree but maybe Rebirth 2 will be better

how is this good game better than shit game

mystery, honestly

Rebirth is slop, E33 is slop why do you E33 anons have some weird schizo theory that E33 haters are Rebirth fags? Rebirth is literal pozzed dogshit and a demake, the 3rd game will be dogshit too. It also sold terribly.

I'm pretty happy I got my refund 1 hour in and just pirated desu, I almost fell for the shilling.

Rebirth is slop

yes

E33 is slop

no

simple as

Can only agree to disagree, I thinkl rebirth and E33 are about on equal levels of trash desu. Rebirth I think is a little more garbage though for being a demake.

The Legend of Dragoon is probably older than you

Rebirth

nigger what the fuck is that

I'm 31 anon

Women will never understand this game.

so you were 6 years old when it came out and didn't even understand what you were playing.

I played dragoon when I was 14 though

? It just looks like a generic turn-based Elden Ring.

Why dont you play it then retard.

rebirth

kek enjoy your boring cringe Japanese "humor".

being just 1 game doesnt make it any good. Its just one game.

kek enjoy your 3 part but single game reboot. Pay up piggie.

kek enjoy your 3 part but single game reboot. Pay up piggie.

im paying for 3 games of an epic story.

epic story.

A story you already know lol because SE cant come up with anything new they gotta farm bozos like you out.

go back

Holy, so E33 fags really are just anti Japanese kek.

posts his asian waifu right on cue

Any game play there champ? Or just your flat faced moon head waifus?
Once youve seen better stuff and realize what the japanese used to be able to do it makes you dislike them.

It's Paper Mario combat. People fucking love Paper Mario combat.

I pirated 33 and like jap games more though?

E33schizos will be silent as the grave after a few more weeks but they should all still get the rope

Havent played it yet but it seems to do 4 niggas in a row well while having a decent story will check it out on sale desu

like jap games more though?

Yeah i could tell.

it's the jrpg for people who hate jrpgs and just want to play a wrpg with turn based.

how much time in the real world correlates to a day in the painting?

I don't know man. Rebirth felt like a shit cashgrab to me. I felt nothing playing this game, like I was looking at some Apple product. Design by comittee game you barely even get the vision the devs had for this. It wasn't bad, just utterly soulless and forgettable.
Expedition 33 I haven't finished and it has some jarring flaws but I do feel something playing it. You can tell the devs were genuinely into their game and it surprised me multiple times positively. We'll see because I'm still into act 2.

this is hilarious because the devs love anime, JRPGs, and Japanese tropes, and how the entire game is a love letter to all of those things. it makes a lot of those 33 fans look like retards

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the story and themes

easiest to follow rpg that has even less going on in it than persona 3

Checks out