Do you think it will grab a larger sustained playerbase when it actually comes out?

Yes, he doesn't care.

lolno
releasing this shits alpha was a mistake

ASSFAGGOTS

No.
Its launch might see a slight uptick and some streamers desperate for attention on a new game but the honeymoon phase is LONG over and anyone with any interest already wrote it off because it's MOBA trash.

The hero shooter audience does not want to farm creeps for 15 minutes and then dive towers for another 15. They want to shoot other players.

It literally changed overnight last night however

You literally can only get into the game by invite

They're still on pre-alpha, they changed the art style last minute before the first invite wave and changed the game from 4 lanes to 3.

you mean the invites literally anyone can just send out to everyone else?

Yes, still pre-alpha

Probably not. MOBA craze ended years ago, and even with heavy amounts of skin monetization the game will likely not keep an active player base for more than two years.
The game is overly complicated, and casual matches will likely boil down to stomp or be stomped. This does not bring about long-term sustainability unless, like Dota 2, they substantially reduce the amount of mechanics to make the game more accessible.

Yes but if you think that isn't a legitimate barrier to entry then you're just being obtuse and unserious. People aren't going to go to a fucking discord, ask for an invite, and accept rando steam friends just to try out a game.

its forums were literally filled with beggars
even Anon Babble had its share of invites being passed around
the invites didn't do shit to limit entry

Valve shoehorn in a destructible environment game on a train into a 4 lane MOBA and then change it to 3. Like WTF? Give us Half Life 3 instead of a pre-alpha.

they need to make a good game if they want players, because they will certainly not sell the game based on sex alone

The game requires above average IQ. Gamers aren't known for that.

Didn't TF2's sex appeal sold the game to you?

like Dota 2, they substantially reduce the amount of mechanics to make the game more accessible.

Dota 2 has gotten more and more mechanics every major patch lol.

It's pretty astounding that DotA 2 isn't even that far off from its ATH playercount

Flopping tranny deadcock.

China and their chinky hordes.

Having been around for SMNC, probably not, but that's not really so much of a big deal to me either.

Unironically yes.

They just need more casual game modes abd custom map support from the get go.

People did just that as nauseum
Getting an invite to deadlock was/is absolutely trivial

We all played it, recognized it was shit, and moved on.

TPS players are not MOBA players and vice-versa.

It gatekept normalfags and Russians for exactly 2 months
t. had a 4 digit forum id

The hero shooter audience does not want to

Well your first issue there is there's no "hero shooter audience".

China is literally the biggest League of Legend player base.

The world just doesn't need another moba, I feel like you could rework this game to be like City Trial for Kirby Air Ride

yeah this
it can coast on like 100-150k players i reckon

TF2 and Overwatch and Rivals don't exist!

Retard.

Chinkies loves both games.

Actually they hate dota like every riot fanboys.

Not a hero shooter
Nobody cared about this beyond it being filler for Consoles that lacked an actual good class based shooter
Nobody cares about this, in general, the advertisements being posted in the catalog are some of the most shamelessly inorganic I've seen.

No. I give it 6 months at best and that's if Marvel Rivals doesn't release another blonde haired mommy dommy before then.

sub-100 iq mongoloids unable to think of second order consequences

Not really. It ironically barely does anything to actually innovate on the whole MOBA formula. It's just the same thing but presented through a different perspective. They even whittled away at the few things that actually somewhat stood to make it stand out, what with the 4-lane structure being reduced down to just 3.

Which is a shame, because I think right now is THE prime time to release a new MOBA that could get people hooked on it. It's been enough time since the fad had stopped and people not only got tired of the big names but are also the right enough distance out from when they got tired of them that they might actually want to get back to them; put together, someone could actually do something different with a MOBA and tap into an audience that has the right mix of nostalgia and frustration that they'd be interested in the "what could've been" they were denied for so long.

TF2 is class-based shooter.

Yeah man I'm sure Valve is paying people to shill a minor update to Deadlock, a game that doesn't even have a real steam page yet lmao

Deadlock isn't a hero shooter

It's clearly trying to attract that audience, that is the entire point of the TPS perspective.
Nobody cares about Deadlock because it's a fucking moba

NTA but he's referring to those 3 games in greentext.

Valve is paying

They do it for free.

They've added more ways to speed up farming and leveling up. This has made the game much more accessible to new players.

Meanwhile:
The jungler role has been completely removed, several unique forms of damage were removed, teams no longer have to share one courier, roshan gives a free aghanim's, tower protection guarantees that base snipes aren't possible anymore, and gold given from towers was dramatically decreased to encourage players to focus on killing enemies and creeps instead of playing objectives.

Brainless bots can't read

Get both whipped and nae nae'd

ESL blames others for using language incorrectly

Many such cases

It appears they do considering you

sub-20iq retard unable to realize its a sub-20iq retard

classic

jungler

never existed

several damage removed

added more

teams no longer have to share one courier

you can always buy more courier even back in dota 1

tower protection

it's on cooldown

encourage killing enemies and creeps instead of objectives

killing players is not easier than right clicking towers

Here, let me help you be less of a dipshit:

TF2

Not a hero shooter

Overwatch

Nobody cared about this beyond it being filler for Consoles that lacked an actual good class based shooter

Rivals

Nobody cares about this, in general, the advertisements being posted in the catalog are some of the most shamelessly inorganic I've seen

You're also just wrong about all of that, but at least now your post is decipherable. You fucking moron.

TF2

A hero shooter

Could read the post but was so beyond retarded you deliberately read it wrong

game went from 4 lanes to 3 lanes

literally overnight last night all the art assets for the shop changed

and like three days prior, the existence of a smaller closed beta was revealed with like 10 other characters, with revamped assets for like 6 existing characters

It's okay to say that you don't like the game or you don't think the game will have any mainstream appeal, but it's really strange to claim the game won't change at all between now and a full release.

Is it still going to be an FPS mashed with an ASSFAGGOTS?

ESL is also samefagging

You understand that you're anonymous, right?
You don't have to defend yourself when you obviously fucked up.
This isn't reddit.

this. SMNC bombed hard

we already have SMITE and that game barely stays popular

We got MvM from TF2 and a roguelike out of Dota2 though.

I hate people who like fun character shooting game

v hates vidya, every. single. thread.

Continuing to call other people ESL

Intentionally refused to understand the concept of CONTEXT.

Thinks samefagging is replying twice without pretending to be two different people

Yeah but like Smite is ass. It's just league with the camera zoomed in.

Zero verticality or actual rewarding movement.

He's still posting

Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough?

Stop shitting up threads, Eric.

We also got Passtime from TF2 and Artifact from Dota2.

He's a schizo too

Why are there so many on this site

Pass time of all fucking game modes get autists to suck the fun out of it

Basically zero fun custom maps because everything is designed for no friend having ass 2 on 2 games

Most posts are the same few turbo-spergs.

my problem with deadlock is its too 'noisy' with all the damn particles and twitch shootery aspects and movement and now I have to worry about looking up and down as well

im too retarded for that and I play used to play dota a lot

Hopefully they add a casual mode then.

You are retarded, Dota back then was a much simplier game, look at the new heroes they added in recent years, they are all high complexity.

add "casual mode" to game designed primarily around esports

it's the exact same as normal mode except your MMR is hidden

but you can play wacky and zany fun custom game modes with the four other people who play them!

why is our esports driven title dead on launch?

Valve is going to stumble upon a game mode that becomes more popular than the ASSFAGGOTS mode lmao.

I hope it does but it's an uphill battle

wants team shooter players but it has too much moba in it

wants moba players but it has too much shooter in it

and both players already have their games that they play like a religion
shooter players won't jump from OW, and if they have they're playing Marvel
Moba players won't leave Dota or LoL because they're stupid

I played this game during the streaming embargo and now it's not even the same game anymore