Why don't devs optimize their games anymore?

im going to call you a faggot, prepare yourself:

Because they literally don't know how. AAA dev teams are made up of diversity hires who are barely tech literate enough to make a website. None of them have ever worked close to the silicon in their lives and wouldn't even know where to begin if they had to. Computers might as well be magic in the eyes of these people. They're using idiot proof engines written by very smart people, none of whom work at the studio where the game is being made.

Most games are early access.

Last 'taking so long' game was BG3, before that I couldn't even name one

I learned about that from .hack//g.u. when Ovan asks Yata what he thinks is behind the Morrigu Barrow wall and Yata says "nothing in the game gets rendered if you can't see it, so nothing."

Optimization for multiplatform isn't something smart or clever it's fucking tedious, like you create a dozed variation of the same assets, you created dozens vertex formats for every case, etc. It's possible only if you have time, modern development can't allow +1 year on polishing

This. Game companies wanted cheaper labor.
They got it. At the cost of competence.
You get what you paid for.

ok grandpa, lets get you to bed.

As a gamer this is all I can think of when I hear that

t. web "developer"

t. "young"

It's biggotry and patriarchy

switching to a lower poly model when the camera isn't pointed toward the model is a form of optimization though

FIFY

Optimization isn't magic, and it has limits.

t. stunted zoomerfaggot

actually binoculars only decrease your fov which doesnt affect LODs

You implemented pretty shitty binoculars, anon

They do. That's the problem. Get over your incorrect viewpoint and satisfaction at spamming it.

Artists do a great job. Then it's "optimised". Fucked. The beauty optimised out.

Low resolution and perforated frames (many required for a full one, missing pixels filled with previous and guesswork, resulting in motion blur) and making common and complex objects 2D would fix this.

Artists deserve the best they can do preserved. Even world can be 2D. If storage insufficient stream from connected systems or servers.

Artists tend to get it right the first time. Should move on, do more. That part of the journey to some perfect ending.

Cause retards keep gobbling Nvidia and AMD cock so much.

*makes the entire game in another language instead of changing audio and text files so you download the game as many times over as languages are available*

A real dev would make the cat disappear instead of just lowering its polycount. LOD is for distance based optimizations.

If the game still needs to track the cat in some way, like if it were an npc with actions or an enemy that could chase the player would just disappearing it not cause issues?

Interesting fanfiction but reality is

Game takes fucking forever, a whole decade sometimes

Releases as an upoptimized buggy mess

"WTF were you doing? You spent so much time AND it runs like ass!"

S-SHUT UP CHUDS, YOU WANT IT DONE FAST OR DO YOU WANT IT DONE RIGHT?!

"NIGGER I JUST WANT IT DONE, YOU FAILED ON BOTH ACCOUNTS!"

You can just register the cat as a floating point in the world map that tracks his position. Rendering and game logic are kinda separate.

At that point, devs wouldnt care that much unless we are talking about a game with what you just said as a some sort of important feature.

you can thanks Epic Games for overselling virtualized geometry as a magic bullet for geometry optimization

None of them have ever worked close to the silicon in their lives

but most of them have worked close to the silicone if you know what I mean

Should we just use some normalmaps and LOD's so our customers don't need fucking supercomputers to run a basic outdoor scene?

Nah fuck that, lets render everything geometrically so now everything has a billion fucking polygons, let the customer just buy more expensive hardware

Because you dumb shits reward them for it.

blacks humor will never be funny

Why the fuck would you open a package with your son's name on it whether or not it was shoes.

Not rendering the cat doesn't mean disabling the cat. Disabling the cat is for being in a completely different room when they didn't need to follow the player.

You can still run logic on the cat entity you would just cull it from rendering so your GPU doesn't have to waste cycles on trying to render unnecessary polygons.

Why the fuck would you open a package with your son's name on it whether or not it was shoes.

Women are unhinged liars. Personal anecdote time?
I kept finding my flip-flops thrown away from the front door, in places note even close to where I left them.
Asked mom/sister

Oh no, anon we haven't touched your shoes, tee hee

Started throwing their shoes far into the back yard, any time I found my shoes not where I left them
Didn't hear a word from them, but miraculously my shoes started to be precisely where I left them.

Why should I? Most of you neanderthals wouldnt know a quality game if it bit you in the ass.

does in some games i've played, notably fatshark games

holy fucking based you're way cooler than everyone else here which is often the case with people who come here to whinge about the userbase

Your argument has a fallacy: you're pretending that the same person is making both complaints.

Im the exception

lol, ostracized loser

they're not smart enough. they have to add 250 mb of extra language bloat

devs dont even finish their games anymore

go back to kotaku faggot nobody likes you

why don't consumers punish them for not doing so?

crippling content addiction

PCfags have been made fun of for decades now trying to punish them.
Normalfags could care less, long as they get to download 170GB of the latest Madden

It's a value proposition.
I was going to buy mon hun on day 1 because I'm a freak no matter how poorly it was optimized.
but some random fuckoff game I'm only loosely interested in? you'd better optimize the fuck out of it.
Someone else may be different.

Most of you neanderthals wouldnt know a quality game if it bit you in the ass.

That's why there's so many good games being made today, right? Like a remake of Trespasser or something?
Oh wait lmao all there is, is garbage.

Why did boomers allow cable tv to get riddled with ads?

Women need to lie and need create drama when their bored it's genetics

back then

games were sold as physical media

devs had limited space to work with

better make sure it works before you ship it

now

dude unlimited download lmao

game could be 20 gig but let's just make it 120 gig instead

make the game work at launch?

fuck that, we can always patch it later

Because previously, games had to be finished and optimized on day 1, no do overs. normalizing day 1 patches has also, invariably, normalized other forms of dev laziness and corner cutting. Optimzation was traditionally the last stage of dev, and these days games are literally releasing YEARS before they're actually in a shippable state.

I've said this for years.
Patching ruined games.

This is dishonest gamemaking and it's fucking bullshit

her son might have bought shoes for her

better make sure it works before you ship it

lol lmao

1. Lots of game devs are no longer designing small, contained levels, with baked-in features. They are bigass open worlds, with dynamic lighting, day/night cycles, and weather effects. Filled with fauna and npcs moving about. all that shit.
Some companies (practically just Rockstar and a few others) can do it pretty well with their own engine builds. The rest of the industry is unironically **still** playing catch-up with designing their games at this level, all while utilizing modern technology/gimmicks. I bet it's still outside the scope of a lot of these teams.

2. Developing these games changed when patches became normalized, post xbox360/ps3 era. As in they can roll out a game that is unfinished/unpolished and fix it along the way. Sucks, but on the bright side we don't see as many big projects run out of funds before it's finished, or flat-out fail to meet deadlines and get axed.

>"NOOOOO WHY IS IT TAKING SO LOOONG"

Who are you quoting?

huh. doom had something like this tho, and i wouldnt call that dishonest.

retard

there is no pleasing the modern consumerbase.

The realest shit in this thread.

Bet they're regretting that "discrete packaging" caveat BD does in the age of people gettingf 3-4 amazon packages a day.

No it was the 14 year olds house and it was his package!

The first thing I'm going to do as a father when I see a package with "silicone sculpture" written on it is berate my son for being too cowardly to find a woman. Or man, really it's that it's that I don't want the homo alien furfag ass plug in my fucking house.

isn't this how literally every game works
they generate your frames step by steps, you don't see because it happens so fast, but each frame is generated step by step with many layers of different stuff

Bad management.
Lots of sloppy decisions made to hit deadlines accumulate technical debt quickly, especially if the person who knows what to fix gets fired (and then rehired after reapplying because he was only fired for quarterly report kayfabe).

engines written by very smart people

UE5

OK.
Good artists hired by competent studios work to make sure that their model looks good in the game.
Voting with your wallet is a meme.
Even if you weren't being massively outweighed by normalfags who just want to own the game that their friends own, the publisher is still more interested in financial motives that have very little to do with the game, like government payouts, stocks and litigating against smaller entities.

isn't this how literally every game works

Only the ones that run well.

The first thing you're going to do as a father is wake up.

You're being baited, that is how good optimization works. If you have assets loaded when you aren't even seeing them then that is bad optimization.

Implying a father gets to sleep proper

Wouldn't the "woke" one be my homo son in this scenario? If I threw out his Chance flared would he die?

Son, daughter, you ain't ever having either.

Some LODs are tied to fov

Yeah, I don't have a son/daughter when they order dog dildoes and store them used on the carpet under their bed. I have a stray in need of Simparica TRIO and a tetanus shot.

incompetence, laziness and hires shitskins to do their job
that's how real life works

why cant most ue5 games optimize their game like the finals

Dr. Pavel? I'm Crystal In Heat

You, uh, don't get to bring condoms

Optimization takes place at the tail end of development and could be anywhere from a couple of weeks to a few months. Most fans are willing to wait that long. It’s investors and people at the top that determine it’s not that important and to rush out a game even if just a week or two of optimization would fix a lot of problems. Most of the gains could be made from some low hanging fruit and wouldnt take ages to get big performance gains. It’s not the fans faults and even most devs are willing to. But they simply arent given the time because higher ups have decided it’s not worth it and better to rush a product out ASAP especially if there’s been delays already, which there usually always is. An extra month or two of dev time may not seem like a lot but to them it makes a difference and cuts into the bottom line.

always have a mirror in front of you so you can see behind you

real life starts to lag since it has to render everything all the time

t. AAA code monkey

Video games are a multi billion industry, dictated by corporate puppets for shareholders, with no budget for r&d
Also prioritizing zoomers with annoying haircuts that identify as household objects that didn't get enough attention growing up, over the old guard
Prease Undustanduru

It's because most "gamers" understand that modern games are shit, but with the shiny pretty visuals, their brain is tricked into thinking it's still somehow a premium product